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Peace be upon you warahmatullahi

wabarakatuh.

Good [laughs] morning. Good morning.

Good morning everyone. Good morning Abah

especially. And this time, we're not just the

two of us, Abah. There are so many people

here, all of us viewers.

And we also have a special guest to

chat and share with

this morning. There's Mr. Ricky. Also,

welcome.

WELCOME. Good morning, Miss.

Good morning, Ricky.

Morning. Morning. Morning. Morning. Morning.

Morning. Yes.

Oh, come on.

So this is actually special, it

seems like this reunion, Abah is with

Masiki, right?

Ee just met a month ago. The

last time we met was a month

ago, right? But for

this sharing, maybe it's also to relieve the longing,

right, the viewers who have known for a long time, right,

how

Abah's journey was and also together with Mas Ricky,

for those

who used to know one of

our nation's extraordinary achievements, we also

once knew something called eh tu

tusiku

tukusi tukusi Yes.

Yes, we might be torn apart first

. Yes, of course, I'll remember it first

. I want to go to Abah first.

Dad, tell me first about something

we are talking about now, Indonesia.

I don't want to tell, I don't want to

tell.

Electric car. [laughs]

I don't want to tell the story

because there are no tissues in front of me

[laughs]

because there are no tissues in front of me.

If I shed dark tears

with what?

[laughs]

Let Riki tell the story.

Let it be Mr. Ricki. Because the character is

actually Bung Riki, right?

Oh dear.

Oh this I know now. I know

why today's theme is about that. Why

invite Ricky? Because yesterday when

we were chatting yesterday morning, there was a

red car in the background in front of me and behind

me. Oh, and at that time we

also discussed why we often

choose the wrong leader. So don't

blame the leader, you also have to

blame the voters. Someone said

that, right? Because one example is

why

SMK cars are more trusted than

electric cars? In fact, it makes

no sense at all for the SMK car to become a

national car. It doesn't make

sense at all. It doesn't make sense [laughs] it's

amazing. But why do people all

believe that?

But that's how it is.

[laughs]

Eh, let Mr. Ricky do the talking, okay?

And people are bored with me so

yeah, Mrs. Riki Oo.

Eh, I was actually surprised this

morning, er yesterday afternoon when Mas

Tomi contacted me. Hey, tomorrow I'll accompany Mr. Dahlan for a

chat. Chat about what?

About electric cars. What else will be

discussed? So actually I'm

confused too. Please, Miss Elni. Hey,

let's just have a relaxed discussion about

this electric vehicle. Where have you been

?

Can you tell me what it was

like first? Because maybe you'll

return to that spirit, right,

Mas Rik? Today, the

story used to be like this.

[laughs]

Yes, sir. Oh, please, sir.

The story can be continued.

Hehe. This is a bit of a signal, what is it

called? Ee, it's not good here.

Always not good or sometimes

not good?

Once in a while, sir.

Even though we used to be

bad, Mbak, or what,

Mbak? Miss Elm is nowhere

to be seen. It often lags like that.

Oh

yeah, maybe at night.

Yes,

because Mr. Ricky lives in

South Tasik Malaya.

Hehe.

The one by the sea.

then at all and so gathered

with goats, gathered with cows, e

gathered with excavations on the seashore

and heard the sound of waves from

maybe these waves are disturbing

the signal, Mrs. Ricky,

the waves of the southern sea are already good. Oh,

that's good. Okay, go ahead.

Okay. Ee if we flashback again, yes,

actually, ee the background to this is that

from the past, the government wanted to get out of

the trap of fuel imports and not only the

Indonesian government, the world also

thought so, so that at

that time, the early development of

electric vehicles already existed.

But ee

at that time there was a determination that was

initiated by Mr. Dahlan, if

I'm not mistaken, it was in the writing of

manufacturing H ke 17, eh or the

17th week Mr. Dahlan became Minister of State-Owned Enterprises.

Then he gave a letter of

challenge for the development of

electric vehicles, inviting Indonesian children

to ee develop

electric vehicle technology. At that time,

I was actually still in Japan,

but a friend sent

me the article. And at

that time I was of course shocked. Surprisingly, it was

n't a mixture of feelings.

Because of this, on the one hand, I see

it as a very good intention

, an initiative, especially from

a high-ranking state official, a

very good initiative. But on the one

hand, there is a similarity where

at that time, ee electric vehicle technology

should be supported by

leading ee research, ee research because

electric vehicle technology is

replacing the drive system from

fossil fuel-based drives to

electric energy-based drives. yes. This electrical energy

can come from batteries, from

hydrogen reactions, whatever.

But the drive is an

electric drive.

it all has to be based on

research and development,

research development and

technology development. Both the

engine technology itself, the

control system technology itself, and also the

battery or energy storage technology

itself, which at that time, eh,

I think Indonesia was still very little

and still very far away. But here there is

one tech like that. So, after I

met with Mr. Dahlan in

March, if I'm not mistaken,

March or April 2012, he

explained the ethics

directly to me and at that time

I refused. I

asked what had been done to

prepare for all this?

Eh, I asked that not

individually to Mr. Dalannya, but

to us as a nation, we

as a country that wants to welcome

such technological developments

. What have we done? Do

we do ee

considerations

for preparation for this, it means

we are advancing into a

battlefield.

Eh, and it turns out that from there I

heard that this was the

Galilean war. And Mr. Dahlan invited

us to fight in Galilee. Yes, let's just

start like that. And at that time,

I also explained to Mr.

Dahlan that eh,

when in Japan, a consortium for

developing one unit of electric vehicle was

carried out by 39 companies

plus one university,

each of which spent 2

billion or

eh nisengmang in

Japanese, R billion, if with KUR

now, it was added with three

engineers from each company,

meaning there were around 120 engineers

to develop one unit, with funds of

around 100 billion to develop 1

unit. Meanwhile, in

our minds in Indonesia, we

might not

think that developing

electric cars will be cheap or easy.

Well, this is a challenge and dilemma

within me. But seeing

Mr. Dalan's determination at that time, I agreed

but with one condition, at that time I

promised not to make the car but to

make the engine. Well, actually

this commitment was also carried out long ago,

at that time there was no Brin, but there was

also BPPT and LIPI. They have actually been

doing ee

development for a long time, including conversion. Conversion

means that from an

existing vehicle platform or

existing commercial vehicle, the

drive system is simply replaced with an

electric vehicle or EE that

develops the entire

system itself. There is actually little of this research

at LIPI and BPPT.

And the peak was on May 25,

2012, Mr. Dalan took me to

a meeting, a meeting at the

Agung Building in Yogyakarta. At that time

our president was still Mr. SBY. He

led a meeting on a plan

called the

National Electricity Program.

Yes, the national electric car program. And at the

same time, Mr.

Dalan actually gathered four people, eh,

who were selected at that time, if I'm not

mistaken, were Mr. Danet Suryatama, Mr.

Das Ahmadi,

eh, Mario Rifaldi, and the other one was

Mr. Rai Desai,

and they had been given the task of

developing electric vehicles by Mr.

Dahlan. One of them is Mr.

Danet, right? Mr. Danet has started

development. He brought a

design that we call a

tucus car today. Eh, the tukusi was

actually inspired by the

dolphins in the Amazon River, so the

design is similar to being

inspired by the dolphins from

the Amazon River. The developer of the

Tokusi electric car technology

is Mr. Danet. Mr. Danet, we

met with Mr. Dahlan at the

Molina program meeting, and that day, our president officially announced his determination

to develop national electric vehicles

.

Even though after that there was uncertainty about us

changing direction to vocational high schools a few years

later, but eh, this one determination to

develop this research-based and

technological development has been

carried out by representatives of five

major universities, namely at that time

represented by ITB,

ITS, then UI, then UGM and UNS,

namely Surakarta University. Jakarta is in

Solo

and each gets different

themes. Some develop their

own engines, some develop

their control systems,

and some develop

their own batteries.

various ee research and studies that ee

conducted in 2012.

And

yet in 2012, Mr. Danet

had started with the night butterfly team,

ee, had started the development of Tukusi

which was expected to be completed at the

end of 2000

12, yes. At that time, Mr. Dalan ee very

often announced in the media that it would be

soon, soon it would be August,

September, October and because it was not

finished yet, in the end there was

a little problem,

I think it was a

communication problem.

Finally,

the task was completed and handed over

to Mr. Alan on December 28,

2012. I still remember the

dates.

Then because Pakalan wanted to do

a test, he wanted to do

a test. Ee,

previously, Mr. Dalan had actually

tested Mr. Das's car repeatedly

with his green car and ee took it

repeatedly and even got stuck in

Semanggi like that. Strike and at that time

get ee blasphemy.

At that time there was this sad feeling that

would be faced in every

technological development. Even though that's actually a

very normal thing.

Finally Tukusi is finished and Mr. Dalan

plans to test the

electric car to run 1000 km target.

And at that time I was assigned

to perfect the system which

technically still had many problems.

Well, among the various systems, there is

one system that my team couldn't

complete

in the very short time of

6 days, namely the regenerative

break, which is very important in

electric vehicle technology.

What is the principle? Like a bicycle,

yeah. For example, if

we lower the dynamo in the front tire of a bicycle and it rubs

against the wheel, it will feel heavy,

like braking instead of the lights

coming on.

Well, that's the principle of regenerative

braking, where

when we lift the pedal, the

electric car engine, which was previously the

driving force for moving forward, now functions

back as a power generator,

as a generator. That's why it's called

regenerative, right? And as a result it will

have a braking effect.

Well, at that time I said that

this braking system

could not be repaired and it could only be

repaired if the tukusi

was dismantled again, the engine was put on the

bench again, then the

repair was done again and that would take at least 1

month at that time.

But Mr. Dahlan didn't want to test it and

approximately

14 years ago, 13 years ago

on January 6, yes, the

Tukusi accident occurred. On the one hand it's a

sad thing, but on the other

hand it's also a good thing. One

good thing is that the first people

to know about one Indonesia at

that time knew about electric cars. Yes, I know

about one effort, one commitment to

develop electric cars. And the

second thing is that

the people riding

in the electric vehicle were safe

without any injuries. This means that at

that time, with such a serious accident, the

safety technology in

electric cars was already very advanced. Yes,

everyone knows

who is in that car? Who

is in that car? In that,

his name was,

eh, if I'm not mistaken, at that time the Minister of

State-Owned Enterprises of the Republic of Indonesia [laughs]

together with

his assistant, his

crazy assistant Rick

Ricky Elson [laughs]

and the two of us ee

survived the accident without any

injuries. Maybe friends can

search for photos after

the accident, please check the electric car accident

ee in that state of destruction.

Ee it turns out our system is very grateful

at that time the team has developed a

very capable safety system

giving new hope that oh we

can develop the next one

and

eh after because we survived Mr.

Dahlan asked me, "How are

you?" E it's okay, sir. E

alhamdulillah e healthy. How do you

rarely develop electric cars?

No. When are you developing again?

Tomorrow is also fine. So it's

not [laughs] that despair is born, but

what is born is ee like when we were

little, playing marbles or

playing what? Losing today does not

mean the end of a game, but

the determination to play next time. That's a

brief story about Tokusi.

But actually stories like this

make Mr. Dalan sad. I

hope he is not sad about

this story. This is one

basic that we have walked like

that.

Hey, why did I ask Mr.

Elsen to come back from Japan

to develop electric cars? Because I

really believe that

we should move to electric cars. At

that time, no one said

that. Because of what? Every time fuel prices

increase, demonstrations always take place everywhere

for years, there is never a

solution and fuel prices will definitely

continue to rise. So. So, do we

continue for life as a country that

continues to demonstrate and overcomes demonstrations? Of course

not. Well, the only way is

not to use fuel because that means you have to switch

to an electric car. Then I went around

to

great universities. I looked for who the

battery expert was but I couldn't find anyone in all

the universities in Indonesia. Then I

looked for who was an expert on supercapacitors.

Supercapacitor ee in this connection is

important. I didn't find anyone who was an expert in

supercapacitors. I went around to

universities and

couldn't find anyone who was an expert in electric motors. Then

I met the name Ricky Elson, he is an

electric motor expert. Then he already

has 14 patents in Japan, but

he has lived in Japan for how many

14 years or something in Japan.

Then ee

then I abstained from that and he

finally came home and I apologize

Kelson that your fate is worse

by returning to Indonesia. I am

sorry. I actually asked Rick

to come back to Japan. I'm

sorry, Mr. I.

I actually asked him, "Okay, you

go back to Japan. I don't want you to be

like this." In fact, he raised goats

in South Tasikmala, served the

people there, served the villages,

served the livestock breeders, and then

made a patepokan to educate the

young people there. Ouch. Ah. Hey,

sometimes if Diilson wants to go to

Surabaya, he doesn't have to go to Surabaya. I

can't bear to see his face.

Gblap.

[laughs]

Yeah.

This is now the new nu fation that has

become so. Yes, Mr. Elsen.

I also searched for hydrogen ee experts

throughout the universities. There aren't any

either. There aren't any. So it is true,

Ren, that we as a country are not ready. That's why

I decided at that time that we would take a

little shortcut. There were four

people earlier that I

introduced to the President at a

large forum at a cabinet meeting. Well,

then the President took a

more systematic decision by appointing

those universities. But I

have faith that if this is handed over to the

bureaucracy, it will not work. At

least it won't be possible. That's why

I took the path of both

ways, the country also took the path. I want ee

friends young people also walk

without ee waiting for that. Later we

can work together, ee, complement each other,

that's the idea. So.

Okay. That's right.

That's right.

Never mind.

Your story was really good and made

me

melt and

we'll meet again next time. Next

time, that's it for now. That was

then.

Hehe.

Hehe.

But my request, Mr. Dalan, is not to

feel sad or guilty

because this will continue, the development of

this technology will continue.

The world will continue to move towards

more advanced electric vehicle technology.

Ee

means we are still optimistic.

But it's like this, Bungi, if it had

worked out that time, we could have been the

hosts. Now, at that time,

I was afraid. Why shouldn't we have to

wait for bureaucracy? Because if

we are slow, in the end

we will become consumers again like

petrol-powered cars. Because

we can't do anything with petrol cars because all the

cars are imported. Ee, even though our market is

this big. Well, here it is. But do

we need to make

petrol cars like SMK or like Proton? I

don't think it's necessary. we are

way behind. Well, but then there was an

opportunity that we could develop

electric cars. While many countries haven't

started using electricity yet, let's get started first. So

, we have the opportunity to

one day be the host in our

own country. And that's what I mean

now, there are so many electric cars in

Indonesia and none of them are made in

Indonesia. Thanks.

Okay, that's all for now. Yes, thank you.

[laughs] Thanks.

That's it for all the viewers.

Thank you, Riki. Hey, when are we meeting?

Love as soon as possible.

I'll be there as soon as possible. Ah, thanks.

Thank you, thank you. Come on. No way. Hey,

we can meet anywhere. Thanks.

Okay.

Okay. Thank you very much, Dad. Thank you

very much too, Mrs. Rikh, everyone.

Yes But you seem happy,

Ricky, from the look on your face, you're not

suffering from that,

I'm not suffering, later I'll

tell you about the

latest developments

[laughs] the development of

electric vehicle technology will rise again, how come

electricity has blood, sea, air, Sir,

don't worry, thank you, thank you,

okay, that was our traffic for a moment, viewers,

but don't worry, there's still hope and

hopefully in the future we will still

have the same spirit as what

Abah used to have, of course

. The spirit for us to be self-sufficient in

our own country, especially in the

electric car industry, we must also be

optimistic about the future, of course, we must be

able to adapt to the developments of the

next era. Thank you for

being with Abah and also Bung Ricky this

morning on This Morning.

To all the viewers, thank you for being

with us this morning. We'll

see you in the next episode. See

you. everything