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Your Soul Isn't What You Think | The Physics Explanation

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In 2019, a woman I'll call Anna was

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dying of Alzheimer's.

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She'd been in the final stages for

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years. She hadn't recognized her

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children in months.

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She couldn't speak. She couldn't feed

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herself.

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She couldn't hold a spoon.

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Her brain was, by every medical measure,

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destroyed.

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Riddled with amyloid plaques, shrunken,

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large sections of cortex effectively

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dead tissue.

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The neurologist had been clear.

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The Anna her family once knew was gone.

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Her brain could no longer produce her.

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And then, about 36 hours before she

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died, Anna sat up in bed.

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She looked at her daughter.

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She called her by name. And she said, "I

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love you.

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I'm sorry I've been away."

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They talked for almost 2 hours.

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Anna asked about her grandchildren.

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She remembered names, birthdays, details

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from decades ago.

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She laughed. She made a joke about the

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hospital food.

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She was funny.

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She was sharp. She was, unmistakably,

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completely herself.

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And then she fell asleep.

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And she died.

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Neurologists call this terminal

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lucidity, and it isn't rare.

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It happens in roughly 5 to 20% of deaths

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from dementia,

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depending on the study and who's

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counting.

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Families have been reporting it for

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centuries.

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Doctors have been quietly noting it in

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charts.

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But science has never been able to

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explain it.

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Because here's the problem, and I need

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you to really sit with this.

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If consciousness is produced by the

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brain the way a factory produces cars,

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then a destroyed factory cannot suddenly

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produce a perfect car.

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A brain eaten by Alzheimer's,

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physically, structurally devastated,

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cannot suddenly generate the most lucid

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conversation of a person's life.

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It would be like smashing a television

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into a hundred pieces, and then watching

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it play one last, perfect, crystal-clear

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broadcast.

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Unless

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the television [music] was never

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generating the picture in the first

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place.

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Unless the relationship between your

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brain and your mind is something

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fundamentally different science has

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assumed for 400 years. This video is

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about a question that science has tried

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to kill, bury, [music] and forget.

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And that keeps clawing its way back up.

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A question that, as of right now, in

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2026, [music]

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is more scientifically alive than it has

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been in centuries.

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The question is simple.

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The answer is anything but.

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Do you have a soul?

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Now, before you click away thinking this

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is going to be some kind of spiritual

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sermon, let me be very clear about what

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this video is and what it isn't.

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I'm not a priest. I'm not a mystic. I'm

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not going to tell you about angels or

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past lives or the healing power of

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crystals.

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What I am is someone who read a book

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earlier this year that genuinely

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unsettled me.

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Several books, actually.

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And when I started pulling at the

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thread, what I found was that the most

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rigorous scientists and philosophers

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alive,

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people at CERN, at NYU, at major

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research hospitals, are having a

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conversation about consciousness right

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now that would have been career suicide

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10 years ago.

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The ground has shifted.

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And I don't think most people realize

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how much.

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The book that started me down this

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particular rabbit hole is called A World

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Appears, A Journey into Consciousness by

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Michael Pollan.

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Yes, that Michael Pollan. The food guy,

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the psychedelics guy.

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Published in February 2026, already a

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New York Times best-seller.

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Pollan spent years tracing what he calls

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the unmapped continent of consciousness.

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Meeting neuroscientists, philosophers,

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plant biologists, AI researchers, people

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who study psychedelics, people who study

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the dying.

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The book is organized beautifully.

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It starts with the most basic question.

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What is sentience?

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Can a plant feel?

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And escalates [music] all the way up to

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the nature of the self.

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The Atlantic called his ability to scent

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the direction the culture is heading

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genius.

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The word is not too strong.

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But Pollan's book is the door I walked

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through. What I found on the other side

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draws from about a dozen other sources.

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Sabine Hossenfelder's Existential

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Physics,

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Philip Goff's Galileo's Error,

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the work of a man named Bernardo

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Kastrup, who is possibly the most

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interesting thinker most people have

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never heard of.

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And a relatively new scientific study of

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terminal lucidity by a researcher named

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Alexander Batthyany, that may be the

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single most important data set in the

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history of consciousness research.

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I'll get to all of them. But first, we

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need to start with something simple.

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Something so obvious you've probably

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never thought about it carefully.

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You are a bag of atoms.

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I mean this literally.

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If you weigh about 70 kg, roughly 154

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lb, you are made of about seven

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octillion atoms.

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That's a seven followed by 27 zeros.

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And the ingredients are almost comically

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ordinary.

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Oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen,

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calcium, phosphorus,

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a bit of potassium,

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a trace of iron. If you were to buy

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these elements at industrial prices,

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you,

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all of you, the whole magnificent,

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feeling, dreaming, complicated you,

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would cost about a dollar.

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Maybe five if you adjust for inflation.

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Now, here's the first strange thing.

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Those atoms,

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they're not yours. [music]

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Not in any permanent sense.

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Your body replaces virtually all of them

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on a rolling basis.

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Paul Aebersold at the Mayo Clinic

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demonstrated this with radioisotope

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tracking [music] as early as 1954.

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Roughly 98% of the atoms in your body

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are replaced every single year.

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Your stomach lining replaces itself

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every few days.

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Your skin is entirely new every two to

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three weeks.

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Even your skeleton, which feels so

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solid, so structural, so you,

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is completely swapped out about every 10

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years.

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The atoms that make up your body right

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now are not the atoms that made up your

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body a decade ago.

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Not a single one.

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So, think about what that means.

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If you are your atoms, then you've

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already died

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many times. The physical stuff of you

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has been completely replaced over and

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over,

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like a river that keeps flowing

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while the riverbed stays the same shape.

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The Greeks had a name for this puzzle.

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The ship of Theseus.

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If you replace every plank of a ship one

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by one,

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is it still the same ship?

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It's a great thought experiment,

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but here's what I didn't fully

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appreciate until I read Hossenfelder's

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book.

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It isn't a thought experiment.

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It's your actual biology.

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It's happening to you right now.

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You are the ship of Theseus.

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Every day,

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every hour,

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and yet you persist.

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You remember your childhood.

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You recognize your face in the mirror.

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You feel continuous.

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You feel like you.

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What exactly is this you?

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If you'd asked a physicist this question

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[music] 400 years ago,

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well, you wouldn't have because the word

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physicist didn't exist yet.

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But if you'd asked a natural

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philosopher, they would have had a ready

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answer.

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You have a soul, an immaterial

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substance.

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Descartes called it res cogitans, the

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thinking thing, that exists alongside

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the physical body,

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but is not made of physical stuff.

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Your body is a machine.

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Your soul [music] is the driver.

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If you ask a physicist this question

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today, the official answer is very

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different.

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The official answer is

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there is no you above and beyond your

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atoms.

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You are what your atoms do.

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Consciousness, the feeling of being you,

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is something the brain produces, the way

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a kidney produces urine or a stomach

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produces acid.

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It's a biological function.

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A very complicated one, sure,

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but ultimately, in principle,

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reducible to physics and chemistry.

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This view is called physicalism or

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materialism.

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And for most of the 20th century,

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[music] it was the only view a

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respectable scientist could hold.

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To question it was to risk your career.

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To suggest otherwise was to be branded a

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mystic, a crank,

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a throwback.

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But here's what I want you to remember,

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because I'll come back to this.

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Remember this moment. The official view

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is that consciousness is produced by the

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brain.

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Keep that in your pocket. We're going to

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need it later.

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Because first, I need to tell you about

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Galileo

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and the 400-year-old mistake that made

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modern science possible

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and possibly broke it forever.

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In 1623, Galileo Galilei did something

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extraordinary.

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It's not what you think. I'm not talking

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about dropping balls off the Tower of

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Pisa or pointing a telescope at Jupiter.

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I'm talking about something much more

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profound and much more consequential for

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the question of whether you have a soul.

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In 1623, Galileo published a book called

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The Assayer.

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And in it, he made a declaration that

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would change the trajectory of human

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civilization.

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He declared that from now on, the

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language of science would be

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mathematics.

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Pure quantities,

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numbers,

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measurements,

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size, shape, location, motion.

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These were the properties of the real

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physical world.

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These were what science would study.

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But notice what got left out.

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Color,

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taste,

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smell,

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sound,

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the warmth of the sun on your face,

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the ache you feel when someone you love

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is suffering,

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the redness of red,

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all the qualities of experience,

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everything that makes it feel like

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something to be alive.

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Galileo explicitly moved those out of

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the physical world and into

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well,

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into the soul.

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He said these qualities don't really

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exist in the objects themselves.

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They exist in the perceiver.

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The lemon isn't actually yellow.

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Your mind [music] makes it yellow.

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The rose doesn't actually smell sweet.

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Your mind constructs the sweetness.

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This was Galileo's deal with the devil.

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And it worked.

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It worked brilliantly.

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By stripping all subjective qualities

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out of the physical world, Galileo gave

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us a world we could measure.

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A world we could mathematize.

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A world we could build equations about.

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And from those equations came

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everything.

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Newton's laws, electromagnetism,

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thermodynamics,

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quantum mechanics,

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rockets,

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antibiotics,

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smartphones.

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The entire edifice of modern science and

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technology was built on Galileo's move.

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The philosopher Philip Goff at Durham

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University in England

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>> [music]

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>> wrote an entire book about this called

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Galileo's Error.

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And his argument is devastating.

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The reason science can't explain

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consciousness isn't that it hasn't

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gotten around to it yet.

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It's that science was explicitly

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designed from the very beginning 400

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years ago

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to exclude consciousness from its

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domain.

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The hard problem of consciousness isn't

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a gap in our knowledge.

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It's a hole we deliberately drilled into

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the foundations of the building.

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And now we're living in the building,

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looking at the hole,

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and wondering why there's a draft.

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Sounds like nonsense, I know.

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Let me make it more concrete.

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Imagine a neuroscientist,

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the best neuroscientist who ever lived.

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She has a brain scanner so powerful, it

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can track every single neuron in your

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brain.

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Every synapse,

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every electrical impulse,

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every molecular interaction,

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all in real time. She knows everything,

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literally everything

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about the physical state of your brain

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at any given moment.

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She can tell you which neurons are

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firing when you see the color red.

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She can predict to the millisecond

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when you'll feel a twinge of sadness.

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She can map every chemical cascade that

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accompanies your experience of falling

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in love.

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But here's the question.

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Can she tell you what red looks like?

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Not which neurons fire. She already

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knows that.

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I mean,

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can she know the experience of red?

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The redness.

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If she'd been blind from birth,

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if she'd never once experienced the

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color red,

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could all that neuroscience,

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all that perfect information about brain

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states,

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give her that experience?

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The answer,

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and this is not controversial among

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philosophers,

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this is something even committed

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materialists generally concede,

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is no.

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She would know everything about the

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physical process,

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and she would still not know what red

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looks like. There is something about

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subjective experience that isn't

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captured in the objective physical

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description.

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This is what the philosopher Thomas

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Nagel was getting at in 1974

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when he asked,

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"What is it like to be a bat?"

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You can know everything about bat sonar,

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the frequency of the sound waves, the

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neural processing, the behavioral

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outputs, and you still won't know what

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it [music] feels like to experience the

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world through echolocation.

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That, what it feels like,

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that's the hard problem.

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And it has been the hard problem for a

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very long time.

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Longer than you'd think.

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In 1714,

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Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz imagined a

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thought experiment.

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Suppose you could shrink yourself down

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and walk inside a brain the way you'd

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walk inside a mill.

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You'd see gears turning, mechanisms

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clicking, parts moving.

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But no matter how carefully you looked,

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you would never see a thought.

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You would never see a feeling.

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You'd see the machinery. You'd never

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find the experience. 150 years later,

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Thomas Henry Huxley, Darwin's most

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fierce defender, a man who had zero

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patience for mysticism,

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wrote that the appearance of

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consciousness from brain activity is

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just as mysterious as the appearance of

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the genie when Aladdin rubbed his lamp.

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And then, in 1995,

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David Chalmers, an Australian

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philosopher with rockstar hair and a

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very serious mind,

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gave the problem a name.

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He called it the hard problem of

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consciousness.

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And he drew a line that has never been

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erased.

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Explaining which brain processes [music]

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correlate with consciousness is the easy

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problem.

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Not easy in practice, just easy in

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principle.

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It's the kind of problem that more data,

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more scanning, more computing power

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might solve.

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The hard problem is explaining why any

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of this neural activity is accompanied

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by subjective experience at all.

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Why isn't it all just information

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processing in the dark?

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Why is there a light on inside? Pay

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close attention to this next part

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because it tells you something important

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about where we stand.

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In 1998, the neuroscientist Kristof Koch

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made a bet with David Chalmers.

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Koch was working closely with Francis

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Crick, yes, the DNA guy,

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and they were both convinced that

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consciousness would yield to standard

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neuroscience.

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Koch bet Chalmers a case of fine wine

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that within 25 years, by 2023,

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researchers would discover the neural

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mechanism of consciousness.

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The physical signature,

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the thing that makes the lights come on.

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25 years passed.

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Brain scanning technology advanced

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beyond anything Koch could have imagined

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in 1998.

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Functional MRI,

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high-density EEG,

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optogenetics,

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whole-brain connectomics,

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billions of dollars in research funding,

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thousands of papers published.

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And in June of 2023,

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at the annual meeting of the Association

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for the Scientific Study of

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Consciousness in New York,

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Koch walked onto the stage and handed

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Chalmers a case of wine.

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He'd lost. It wasn't even close.

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Not only had the mechanism not been

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discovered, the two leading theories of

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consciousness that were tested in a

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collaborative experiment had both failed

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to make the predictions they needed to

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make.

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Science was not incrementally closer to

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bridging the gap.

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Some researchers openly wondered whether

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it had been asking the right question.

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Koch and Chalmers doubled down.

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They made another bet.

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Same terms, another 25 years.

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2048.

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I'll be quite old by then.

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I hope I'm around to see who wins.

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But here's the thing that should bother

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you.

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It's been 400 years since Galileo.

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It's been 300 since Leibniz walked into

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his imaginary mill.

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We have the most powerful tools for

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studying [music] the brain in human

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history.

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And we are, by essentially any honest

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assessment, no closer to understanding

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why there is a you watching the neurons

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fire than Leibniz was in 1714. Unless,

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and this is where it starts to get

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genuinely unsettling,

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we've been looking at the problem from

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[music] the wrong direction entirely.

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Let's go back to the dying.

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Alexander Batthyany is a professor of

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theoretical psychology in Vienna and

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Liechtenstein.

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For years, he has been quietly

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collecting and systematizing something

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that the medical profession had mostly

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treated as anecdotal curiosity.

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Cases of terminal lucidity.

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People with severe dementia,

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people whose brains were, by every

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objective measure, incapable of

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producing coherent thought, suddenly

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becoming fully lucid in the hours or

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days before death.

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His work, published with Bruce Greyson

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in Psychology of Consciousness in 2021,

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was one of the first systematic academic

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studies.

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And what he found was striking.

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This isn't a once-in-a-blue-moon

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miracle.

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It's a pattern.

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His data suggested that a significant

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minority of dementia patients experience

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it.

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Some for minutes, some for hours. Some,

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and these are the cases that really get

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under your skin.

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For an entire day,

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full personality,

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full memory,

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full verbal fluency,

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in brains where the physical substrate

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for all of those things had been

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measured, scanned, and confirmed to be

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severely damaged or absent.

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Now, I want to be fair here.

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I want to steel man the skeptical

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position, because it's the position most

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neuroscientists still hold, and it's not

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a stupid position.

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The skeptical explanation goes something

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like this.

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We don't fully understand the brain's

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resilience and redundancy.

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Maybe there are neural pathways we

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haven't mapped.

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Maybe the brain has a capacity for

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temporary bypasses,

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like traffic rerouting around a closed

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highway,

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that can briefly restore function even

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in severely damaged tissue.

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There's a 2024 study suggesting that

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fluctuations in amyloid beta

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oligomerization

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might temporarily clear enough neural

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noise to allow fleeting cognitive

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recovery.

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It's not magic, it's just biology we

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don't understand yet.

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And that's a fair response.

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I take it seriously.

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But here's what makes me uneasy.

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If it were just terminal lucidity,

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I could file it under biology is

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complicated and move on.

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But it's not just terminal lucidity.

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In 2023,

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a team at the University of Michigan,

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led by Jimo Borjigin, published a study

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in the Proceedings of the National

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Academy of Sciences that made

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international headlines.

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They'd been monitoring the brains of

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patients in intensive care.

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Patients who were comatose,

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unresponsive, and ultimately determined

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to be beyond medical help.

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When life support was withdrawn,

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EEG monitors were still running.

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And in two of the four patients, as

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their hearts stopped, as their brains

23:17

were losing oxygen,

23:19

as they were dying,

23:21

the monitors recorded a massive surge of

23:24

organized gamma wave activity. Gamma

23:26

waves, the fastest oscillations the

23:29

brain produces,

23:31

are the very same brain waves most

23:32

strongly associated [music] with

23:34

conscious awareness in healthy people.

23:38

And this surge didn't happen everywhere.

23:40

It happened in what consciousness

23:42

researchers call the hot zone,

23:45

the junction between the temporal,

23:47

parietal, and occipital lobes at the

23:49

back of the brain.

23:52

The exact area correlated with dreaming,

23:55

visual hallucinations, and altered

23:57

states of consciousness in other

23:59

studies.

24:01

Let me say that again.

24:03

As the brain was shutting down,

24:05

as the machinery was failing,

24:07

as the factory was going dark,

24:10

there was a surge of the specific kind

24:12

of organized electrical activity

24:15

associated with the highest states of

24:17

conscious awareness.

24:20

George Mashour, the founding director of

24:22

the Michigan Center for Consciousness

24:24

Science, called it a neuroscientific

24:27

paradox.

24:28

And that's a very measured, very careful

24:31

word.

24:32

But I think what he meant was,

24:34

this doesn't [music] make sense. Not if

24:36

the brain generates consciousness the

24:38

way we think it does.

24:40

Not if consciousness is what the brain

24:42

does.

24:44

I'll give you a few seconds to let that

24:45

sink in.

24:49

Okay. So, here's where I need to

24:51

introduce an analogy that might sound

24:53

mystical, but is actually quite precise.

24:56

And I need you to hold your skepticism

24:58

in check for about 3 minutes because the

25:00

person who formalized this idea is not a

25:03

guru.

25:04

He's a computer scientist from CERN.

25:08

In 1954, Aldous Huxley, the novelist,

25:12

the man who wrote Brave New World,

25:14

published a small book called The Doors

25:16

of Perception.

25:18

It was about his experiences with

25:19

mescaline.

25:20

But buried in it was an idea that Huxley

25:23

borrowed from the philosopher Henri

25:25

Bergson and from William James, the

25:27

father of American psychology.

25:30

The idea was this.

25:32

What if the brain doesn't generate

25:33

consciousness?

25:35

What if instead the brain filters it?

25:39

The metaphor is a radio.

25:41

Your radio doesn't generate [music] the

25:42

music. The music, the signal,

25:46

is already out there

25:47

in the electromagnetic spectrum,

25:50

flooding [snorts] the room whether the

25:51

radio is on or not.

25:54

What the radio does is tune, select, and

25:58

channel a particular frequency into

26:01

something you can hear.

26:04

If you smash the radio, the music

26:06

doesn't cease to exist.

26:08

You just can't hear it anymore.

26:11

Now, I know what you're thinking. This

26:13

sounds like new-age word salad.

26:16

I thought the same thing when I first

26:18

encountered it.

26:19

It sounds like something someone says

26:21

right before they try to sell you a

26:23

healing crystal.

26:26

But bear with me here because the person

26:28

who has taken this intuition and turned

26:30

it into a rigorous philosophical

26:32

framework is not selling crystals.

26:36

Bernardo Kastrup holds two PhDs,

26:39

one in computer engineering specializing

26:42

in artificial intelligence and

26:43

reconfigurable computing,

26:46

and one in philosophy

26:48

focusing on ontology and philosophy of

26:50

mind.

26:52

He worked as a researcher at CERN, the

26:54

European Organization for Nuclear

26:56

[music] Research, the place that found

26:58

the Higgs boson.

27:00

He co-founded a parallel processing

27:02

company [music] that was acquired by

27:04

Intel.

27:06

He worked as a technology strategist at

27:08

ASML, which is arguably the most

27:10

important technology company most people

27:13

have never heard of.

27:14

They make the machines that make the

27:16

chips that make

27:19

everything.

27:21

This is not a mystic. This is someone

27:23

who has spent 30 years in the hardest,

27:26

most empirical, most technically

27:28

demanding environments on Earth, and who

27:30

has concluded, through logic, not faith,

27:34

that the mainstream scientific picture

27:35

of consciousness is wrong.

27:39

Kastrup's position is called analytic

27:41

idealism, and the core claim is

27:44

breathtaking in its simplicity and

27:46

terrifying in its implications.

27:50

The claim is this:

27:52

consciousness is not produced by matter.

27:55

Consciousness is all there is. What we

27:58

call the physical world, atoms,

28:01

molecules, brains, stars, galaxies,

28:06

is what consciousness looks like from

28:08

the outside.

28:10

It's the external appearance of inner

28:12

experience.

28:15

Your brain is not a generator of your

28:17

mind.

28:19

Your brain is what your mind looks like

28:22

when observed by another mind.

28:26

I know. I know how that sounds.

28:28

Let me make it more concrete.

28:31

Imagine you're looking at a brain scan.

28:34

You see neurons firing in a particular

28:36

pattern.

28:38

That pattern is correlated with the

28:40

person reporting that they see red.

28:44

Now, the standard interpretation is the

28:47

neurons firing cause the experience of

28:50

red.

28:51

The brain produces consciousness.

28:55

But Kastrup points out that there's

28:57

another interpretation.

28:59

One that is equally consistent with all

29:02

the data.

29:03

The experience of seeing red

29:06

and the neurons firing

29:08

are the same event

29:10

seen from two different perspectives.

29:14

The experience is what it's like from

29:16

the inside.

29:18

The brain scan is what it looks like

29:21

from the outside.

29:23

Neither one causes the other. They're

29:26

two views of one reality.

29:28

And what is that one reality?

29:31

Consciousness.

29:33

Experience.

29:34

Subjectivity itself.

29:37

Not your individual consciousness.

29:39

Something vaster.

29:41

Something that Kastrup calls mind at

29:44

large.

29:45

And your individual mind, your sense of

29:48

being you,

29:49

with your memories and personality and

29:51

quirks,

29:53

is what happens when a portion of this

29:55

universal consciousness becomes

29:57

dissociated from the whole.

30:01

Your brain doesn't generate your mind.

30:04

Your brain is the boundary of your mind.

30:07

It's the mechanism by which a segment of

30:09

universal consciousness

30:11

>> [music]

30:11

>> gets walled off into the experience of

30:13

being a particular person in a

30:15

particular body.

30:18

Kastrup's most provocative analogy comes

30:21

from clinical psychology.

30:23

Dissociative identity disorder,

30:26

what used to be called multiple

30:27

personality disorder,

30:29

is a condition where one mind fragments

30:32

into multiple apparently separate

30:34

selves.

30:36

Each alter has its own memories,

30:39

personality,

30:40

sometimes even its own physiological

30:42

responses, but they're all happening

30:45

within one brain.

30:47

One mind,

30:49

many cells.

30:51

Castrup's argument is the universe works

30:54

the same way.

30:55

One consciousness

30:57

dissociated into billions of apparently

30:59

separate experiencers.

31:02

You,

31:04

me,

31:06

your cat,

31:07

maybe, and this is where it really gets

31:10

wild,

31:11

the tree outside your window.

31:14

And here's the thing that stops me from

31:16

dismissing this as philosophy gone mad.

31:19

If Castrup is right, then terminal

31:22

lucidity makes perfect sense.

31:25

Death isn't the extinction of

31:26

consciousness.

31:28

It's the end of the dissociation.

31:31

The boundary dissolves.

31:34

And just before it dissolves,

31:36

just before the filter fails completely,

31:39

the full signal comes flooding through.

31:42

One last, brilliant, perfect broadcast.

31:46

[music]

31:47

Not because the broken TV suddenly fixed

31:49

itself,

31:51

but because the TV was never generating

31:53

the picture.

31:56

Now, you might stop me here.

31:58

You might say, "This is beautiful, but

32:00

it's not science.

32:02

Where's the evidence?

32:04

Where are the equations?

32:06

What does this predict that physicalism

32:08

doesn't?" And that's a legitimate

32:11

objection. It's the right objection.

32:13

So, let me take you somewhere you might

32:14

[music] not expect.

32:17

Let me take you to the world of plants.

32:20

Michael Pollan, remember the book that

32:22

started all of this? Devotes a

32:24

significant portion of A World Appears

32:27

to what he calls plant neurobiologists.

32:31

These are researchers studying something

32:34

uncomfortable.

32:35

Plants appear to solve problems.

32:38

Not metaphorically.

32:40

Not as a flowery way of describing

32:42

chemical reactions.

32:44

They demonstrate behavior that in an

32:46

animal we would call decision-making.

32:50

They communicate with each other through

32:52

chemical signals and some researchers

32:55

believe through underground fungal

32:57

networks.

32:59

They allocate resources strategically.

33:02

They learn.

33:04

A 2014 study showed that that Mimosa

33:06

Pudica, the sensitive plant that folds

33:09

its leaves when touched, could learn to

33:11

stop responding to a stimulus that

33:14

wasn't actually harmful and could

33:16

remember this lesson for weeks.

33:19

Plants have no neurons. They have no

33:22

brain.

33:23

They have no nervous system.

33:26

And yet they exhibit behavior that

33:28

functionally [music] looks like

33:29

cognition.

33:32

Now, the mainstream interpretation is

33:34

that this is all explicable through

33:36

biochemistry.

33:38

No consciousness required.

33:41

Fair enough.

33:42

But then you have to answer, where do

33:44

you draw the line?

33:47

How complex does the biochemistry have

33:49

to get before consciousness switches on?

33:53

Is there a threshold?

33:54

A magic number of neurons?

33:57

And if so, why?

34:00

In April 2024, something unprecedented

34:03

happened.

34:05

A group of prominent scientists and

34:07

philosophers gathered at New York

34:09

University and signed what became known

34:12

as the New York Declaration on Animal

34:14

Consciousness.

34:16

Among the signatories, neuroscientist

34:19

Anil Seth,

34:21

neuroscientist Christof Koch,

34:23

philosopher David Chalmers.

34:27

The declaration stated that there is

34:28

strong scientific evidence for conscious

34:31

experience in all mammals and birds

34:34

and a realistic possibility of

34:36

consciousness in all vertebrates

34:39

plus cephalopods, crustaceans, and

34:41

insects.

34:44

Insects.

34:46

We're talking about bees,

34:49

wasps,

34:50

possibly ants.

34:53

In 2022, researchers at Queen Mary

34:56

University of London observed bumblebees

34:58

playing with small wooden balls,

35:01

pushing them around, rolling them,

35:03

apparently for fun.

35:05

Not for food,

35:06

not for mating,

35:08

for play.

35:09

If a bumblebee can play,

35:11

if there is something it is like to be a

35:13

bee rolling a ball,

35:15

then consciousness is not a late

35:18

sophisticated add-on that evolution

35:20

bolted on to complex brains.

35:23

It's something much more fundamental.

35:25

Something that might go all the way

35:27

down.

35:29

And this is where we meet Giulio Tononi.

35:33

Tononi is a neuroscientist at the

35:34

University of Wisconsin-Madison

35:37

and he has spent his career trying to do

35:39

something audacious.

35:41

Mathematize consciousness.

35:44

His framework is called integrated

35:46

information [music] theory or IIT.

35:50

And the core idea is this.

35:52

Any system that [music] integrates

35:54

information in a certain way,

35:56

a way he quantifies with a value called

35:58

phi,

35:59

has some degree of conscious experience.

36:03

A human brain has very high phi.

36:06

>> [music]

36:06

>> A thermostat has some.

36:08

An electron might have a vanishingly

36:10

small amount.

36:13

But the number is never exactly zero.

36:17

If IIT is right, and I should say it's

36:21

hugely controversial and the adversarial

36:23

tests in 2023 were inconclusive.

36:27

But if it's even approximately right,

36:30

then consciousness isn't something

36:32

brains invented.

36:34

Brains merely amplify something that was

36:37

already there.

36:39

Something woven into the fabric of

36:41

reality itself.

36:44

Sounds insane, right?

36:46

And yet, and this is the part that made

36:49

me put the book down and stare at the

36:51

ceiling.

36:52

This is exactly what some of the most

36:54

prominent physicists of the 20th century

36:57

believed.

36:59

Arthur Eddington, the man who confirmed

37:01

Einstein's general relativity, wrote in

37:04

1928 [music]

37:06

that the stuff of the world is mind

37:08

stuff.

37:10

Erwin Schrödinger, Schrödinger, the man

37:13

with a cat, one of the founders of

37:14

quantum mechanics,

37:16

wrote that consciousness is a singular

37:19

of which the plural is unknown.

37:22

There is only one consciousness, he

37:24

said. What seems like a multiplicity of

37:26

selves is an illusion.

37:29

You might not have noticed, but we just

37:31

crossed a line.

37:33

We started this video asking whether you

37:35

have a soul.

37:37

We've now arrived at a place where

37:38

serious scientists, Nobel laureates,

37:42

researchers at the most elite

37:43

institutions on Earth are suggesting

37:46

that consciousness might not be

37:48

something your brain produces.

37:50

It might be something your brain

37:52

receives

37:54

or restricts

37:56

or carves out from something larger.

37:59

But, here's where it gets really [music]

38:01

interesting.

38:02

Because there's one more piece of this

38:04

puzzle,

38:05

and it comes from a place you wouldn't

38:07

expect.

38:08

The philosophy of physics itself.

38:12

Let me take you back to Sabine

38:13

Hossenfelder. She's a theoretical

38:16

physicist based in Munich, and she wrote

38:18

a book called Existential Physics that

38:20

I've talked about before on this

38:22

channel. One of the key ideas in her

38:24

book, one that she treats with great

38:26

care because she's a physicalist

38:28

herself, she's not trying to prove the

38:30

soul exists, is the concept of strong

38:34

emergence.

38:35

Here's the idea.

38:37

In most of science, when complex things

38:40

happen, they can in principle be

38:42

explained [music] by their parts.

38:45

Water flows downhill because of how its

38:47

molecules interact with gravity.

38:50

A hurricane forms because of how heat,

38:53

moisture, and air pressure work

38:55

together.

38:57

This is called weak emergence.

38:59

The complex behavior of the whole is

39:01

surprising, but ultimately derivable

39:04

from the behavior of the parts if you

39:06

knew enough about them.

39:09

Strong emergence is different.

39:12

Strong emergence is when genuinely new

39:14

properties arise at a higher level.

39:17

Properties that cannot, even in

39:19

principle, be predicted from or reduced

39:22

to the behavior of the parts.

39:26

Not because of our ignorance, but

39:28

because something genuinely new has come

39:30

into existence. [music]

39:32

Something that wasn't there before.

39:35

Something that isn't just a

39:36

rearrangement of what was already there.

39:40

Science has never definitively confirmed

39:43

a case of strong emergence.

39:46

It's one of those ideas that makes most

39:48

physicists nervous

39:50

because it would mean that the

39:51

reductionist program,

39:53

the idea that you can explain everything

39:55

by breaking it down into smaller and

39:57

smaller pieces, has a boundary.

40:01

A point beyond which breaking things

40:03

down gives you

40:05

less,

40:06

not more.

40:08

But consciousness is the single most

40:10

plausible candidate for strong emergence

40:12

that exists.

40:14

Because here's what we've established.

40:17

You can know everything about the atoms.

40:20

You can know everything about the

40:21

neurons.

40:23

You can know every single physical fact

40:25

about the brain.

40:27

And you still don't have the experience.

40:31

You still don't have the redness of red.

40:34

You still don't have the ache of grief

40:37

or the warmth of love.

40:40

There's something

40:41

let's just call it something for now

40:44

that is not captured in the parts. If

40:46

strong emergence is real, then the Nobel

40:49

Prize winning physicist Philip Warren

40:51

Anderson's famous line applies.

40:54

More is different.

40:56

And what that would mean is

40:57

extraordinary.

40:59

It would mean that your consciousness,

41:01

that you that persists even though your

41:03

atoms are replaced,

41:05

that you that watches the neurons fire,

41:08

that you that is watching this video

41:10

right now

41:11

would be a genuine addition to the

41:13

universe.

41:15

Not merely a rearrangement of existing

41:17

matter and energy.

41:19

Something ontologically new.

41:21

Something as real as gravity.

41:24

Something that, yes,

41:26

you could call a soul

41:28

if you wanted to use that word

41:31

without being unscientific.

41:34

And this is the point in the video where

41:36

the ground shifts.

41:38

Because I've been framing this as a

41:39

question about you.

41:41

About whether you have a soul.

41:44

About whether there's something more to

41:45

you than your atoms.

41:48

But that's not actually what this is

41:49

about. What this is really about is

41:51

whether science, the most powerful tool

41:54

humanity has ever created for

41:56

understanding reality,

41:58

has a blind spot.

42:00

And whether that blind spot is precisely

42:02

the thing that's using the tool.

42:06

Let me explain what I mean.

42:08

Stephen Hawking once asked a question

42:11

that almost nobody talks about.

42:14

He asked,

42:15

"What breathes fire into the equations?"

42:19

Physics gives us equations, beautiful

42:21

equations, equations that describe with

42:24

extraordinary precision how matter and

42:27

energy behave.

42:29

F = MA,

42:31

E = MC²,

42:33

the Schrödinger equation, the Einstein

42:36

field equations,

42:38

these are the finest achievements of

42:40

human intelligence.

42:42

They tell us exactly what matter does,

42:45

but they don't tell us what matter is.

42:49

Tim Palmer, a physicist at Oxford, puts

42:52

it this way, and I'm drawing here from

42:54

Hossenfelder's book.

42:56

Mathematics describes the behavior of

42:58

reality, but it does not describe the

43:01

nature of reality.

43:03

An equation can tell you that a particle

43:05

will be at a certain position at a

43:07

certain time. It cannot tell you what

43:09

the particle is made of,

43:11

not at the deepest level.

43:14

At the deepest level, physics describes

43:16

relationships and structures and

43:18

behaviors.

43:20

And then it stops.

43:22

What the stuff actually is underneath

43:24

all the equations,

43:27

physics is silent.

43:29

And here's the devastating implication.

43:33

Maybe what the stuff is

43:36

is experience.

43:38

Maybe the fire in the equations, the

43:40

thing that makes the mathematical

43:42

relationships real rather than just

43:44

abstract structures floating in platonic

43:46

space,

43:48

is consciousness itself.

43:51

Maybe, as Kastrup argues,

43:53

what we call the physical world is the

43:56

external face of an inner reality.

43:59

And maybe that inner reality is the only

44:02

thing any of us has ever actually

44:04

encountered directly.

44:07

Think about it. What do you know for

44:09

certain?

44:10

I don't mean what do you believe.

44:13

I don't mean what science tells you.

44:15

I mean, what do you know with absolute

44:19

unshakable certainty?

44:21

You know that you are having an

44:23

experience right now. You know that

44:25

there is something it is like to be you

44:28

hearing these words

44:29

in this moment.

44:32

You might be wrong about everything

44:33

else.

44:35

You might be a brain in a vat.

44:37

The universe might be a simulation.

44:40

Other people might be philosophical

44:42

zombies with no inner life.

44:46

But the one thing you cannot doubt,

44:49

the one thing that is immune to every

44:51

skeptical argument ever devised,

44:54

is that you are conscious.

44:57

That there is experience happening.

45:02

Descartes was wrong about almost

45:03

everything.

45:05

But he was right about this.

45:08

Cogito ergo sum.

45:11

I think, therefore, I am.

45:15

Or better,

45:16

I experience,

45:18

therefore, something exists.

45:22

And here's the paradox,

45:24

the deep structural paradox that I think

45:27

is the actual point of everything we've

45:29

talked about today.

45:31

The one thing you know most certainly to

45:34

be real,

45:35

your own inner experience,

45:38

is the one thing science treats as most

45:41

in need of explanation.

45:44

It's the one thing science struggles

45:46

hardest to account for. It's the one

45:48

thing that falls through the gap that

45:50

Galileo opened 400 years ago.

45:54

Science doesn't have a soul problem.

45:57

Science has a self problem.

46:01

The instrument can't see itself.

46:05

Now,

46:06

I need to be honest with you.

46:08

I don't know the answer.

46:10

I genuinely don't.

46:13

I don't know if Kastrup is right that

46:15

consciousness is fundamental.

46:18

I don't know if IIT's math will

46:20

eventually pan out.

46:23

I don't know if terminal lucidity is

46:25

evidence of the brain's hidden

46:27

resilience

46:28

or evidence of something far stranger.

46:32

I don't even know if the hard problem is

46:34

truly hard

46:36

or if we'll look back in a hundred years

46:38

and wonder what the fuss was about.

46:41

The way we look back at vitalism,

46:43

the old belief that living things were

46:45

animated by a special life force that

46:48

turned out to be

46:50

just chemistry.

46:52

Maybe consciousness will go the same

46:54

way.

46:55

Maybe it's just neurons. Maybe the

46:58

explanatory gap will close and we'll

47:00

understand exactly how and why 3 lb of

47:04

wet tissue

47:05

produce the experience of seeing a

47:07

sunset.

47:09

But here's what I do know

47:11

and what I think is genuinely important.

47:14

As of right now, in 2026,

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the question is open.

47:20

Not open in the way that is there life

47:22

on Mars is open,

47:24

where we're just waiting for more data.

47:27

Open in a deeper, more structural way.

47:30

Open in the way that the foundations are

47:33

uncertain.

47:35

The most informed, most intelligent,

47:37

most rigorous people who study this,

47:40

Koch, Chalmers, Tononi, Kastrup, Goff,

47:45

Hassenfelder, Pollen in his own way,

47:48

disagree not just about the answer,

47:50

but about what kind of answer is even

47:52

possible.

47:54

And the direction of the disagreement

47:56

has shifted.

47:58

20 years ago, the serious money was on

48:01

physicalism.

48:02

The brain generates consciousness, end

48:05

of story. [music]

48:06

Give us enough computing power and we'll

48:08

explain it.

48:10

Today, the most interesting work in the

48:12

field is happening at the margins of

48:14

that consensus. Serious scientists,

48:17

published, credentialed, peer-reviewed,

48:21

are entertaining ideas that would have

48:22

been academic poison a generation ago.

48:26

Panpsychism,

48:28

idealism,

48:29

strong emergence,

48:32

fundamental consciousness,

48:35

not as faith,

48:37

not as wishful thinking,

48:39

but as hypotheses that might actually do

48:41

a better job of accounting for the

48:43

evidence than the standard story.

48:46

And terminal lucidity sits right at the

48:49

heart of it.

48:50

Because it's not a philosophical thought

48:52

experiment.

48:54

It's not an argument about qualia or

48:56

zombie worlds or Mary's room.

48:59

It's data.

49:01

It's a dying woman sitting up in bed

49:03

after years of silence and calling her

49:05

daughter by name.

49:08

And it demands an explanation.

49:12

And the explanation has to be more than

49:14

"Brains are complicated."

49:18

I want to end with something quiet.

49:21

There's a sculpture outside the British

49:22

Library in London.

49:25

It's 12 ft tall, bronze,

49:27

bolted together at the joints so you can

49:29

see the seams. It depicts Isaac Newton,

49:32

hunched over, naked, drawing geometric

49:35

figures on a scroll with a compass.

49:39

His eyes are copied from Michelangelo's

49:41

David,

49:42

but he's not looking outward.

49:44

He's not gazing at the stars.

49:47

He's staring down at his diagrams.

49:50

The sculpture was made by Eduardo

49:52

Paolozzi

49:54

and it's based on a print by William

49:55

Blake from 1795.

49:59

Blake hated Newton.

50:01

He thought that reducing nature to

50:02

mathematics was a form of spiritual

50:05

blindness.

50:06

A man so focused on measuring the

50:08

universe that he couldn't see it.

50:12

Blake's original title was Newton,

50:14

personification of man limited by

50:17

reason.

50:19

The scientist sits at the bottom of the

50:21

ocean surrounded by beauty

50:23

and sees nothing but his compass and his

50:25

equations.

50:28

I used to think Blake was wrong.

50:30

Science has given us more wonder, more

50:33

awe,

50:34

more genuine understanding of the

50:36

universe than any mystical tradition

50:38

ever could.

50:40

I still believe that.

50:42

But now I'm not sure Blake was entirely

50:44

wrong, either.

50:47

Maybe the sculpture isn't just an

50:48

insult. Maybe it's a warning.

50:51

A warning that the most powerful

50:53

instrument we have ever built for

50:54

understanding reality has a blind spot.

50:58

A structural blind spot

51:01

drilled into its foundations [music] 400

51:03

years ago by a genius who needed to

51:06

simplify the world in order to measure

51:08

it.

51:10

And the blind spot is not some distant

51:12

galaxy or some particle too small to

51:14

detect.

51:16

The blind spot is the one thing that's

51:19

[music] looking through the instrument.

51:23

You.

51:26

And maybe that's what a soul is.

51:29

Not a ghost in the machine.

51:31

Not an invisible substance hovering

51:33

above the brain.

51:35

But the one piece of reality that is

51:38

real beyond all doubt.

51:40

That no equation has ever captured.

51:43

That no brain scan has ever seen.

51:47

And that is somehow

51:49

reading meaning into these words right

51:51

now.

51:54

Science can't prove you have one.

51:56

It also can't prove you don't.

51:59

And the reasons it can't

52:01

might be the most important thing

52:03

science has ever failed to explain.

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