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Harrisburg City Council Meeting - January 7, 2025

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is 5:34 p.m. I would like to call our

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work session to

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order happy New

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Year Mr Parker can you please call the

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role

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yes Miss Daniels

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here Miss Davis

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present Miss green present Mr Jones here

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Ms rolls present Mr Rodriguez present

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Miss Bowers present thank

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you um our meeting this evening may be a

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little brief um we if you're following

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Along on our agenda the first item of

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committee business listed is related to

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the budget and finance committee um we

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were looking forward to updates um by

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interim director Gloria Martin Roberts

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related to the arpa funding uh and the

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proposed projects for affordable

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housing um home repair senior

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programming and Community connections

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Hub unfortunately uh interm director

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Martin Roberts is not available this

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evening evening um so we will move

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forward with our second order of

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committee business and that lies with

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the community and economic development

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committee so I will defer to our

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community and economic development

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committee chair councilwoman

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Daniels thank you uh Mr Parker do you

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mind reading resolution 82y 2024 into

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the record please certainly resolution

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82 of

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2024 a resolution appr approving the

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preliminary SL final land development

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plan for

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315 North Front Street submitted by

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Vernon Jones of Front Street Lofts

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LLC to convert the existing office

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building into an 8un apartment building

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featuring six one-bedroom units and two

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two-bedroom units with two units

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designated as affordable units along

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with Associated improvements

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thank you um and if the representative

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for the city could uh identify himself

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and give us a brief summary of the

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process for this

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application uh yes good evening uh

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councilwoman Daniels and the rest of the

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council members uh Jeffrey Knight

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planing director um with the city of

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Harrisburg uh so the uh application

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before Council uh T oh and uh Happy New

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Year to everybody too as well uh so the

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application before uh council tonight is

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is um as Mr Parker read a land

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development plan for uh the internal

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conversion of uh the former office

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building at 3:15 North Front Street uh

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into um eight apartment into an8 unit

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apartment building uh six of the units

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will be within the primary structure uh

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on site and then two of the units will

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be in the um uh it will be in the

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carriage house at the uh rear of the

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property uh as Mr Parker noted um two of

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the units will be designated as

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affordable um it should be noted that uh

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this um is not part of while Mr um Jones

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is committing to the affordable units

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it's not part of um uh a density bonus

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um benefit that he's getting as part of

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this so this is kind of almost entirely

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uh at the um applicant's um proposal uh

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in addition uh the applicant is going to

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be providing uh believe 10 total parking

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spaces there are two in the courtyard uh

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that separates the uh primary building

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and the Carriage House on site uh and

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then two on the first floor of the

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carriage house and then the applicant

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will also be securing six uh parking

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spaces within the River Street Parking

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Garage uh as part of this project um so

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uh overall it's very similar to I think

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a lot of the other uh conversion

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projects the council has seen over the

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years where we're taking these um former

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office uh buildings that themselves were

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previously res residences and were

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converted um they're going back to uh

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residential use um and uh in you know I

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think contrast to some of the other

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developments that we've had downtown the

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applicant has been very proactive about

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finding uh enough uh off street parking

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uh for the potential tenants um and in

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doing so is seeking to um you know

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address some of the concerns that were

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brought up by uh neighborhood residents

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at the Planning Commission meeting um so

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with that all being said the Planning

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Commission uh recommend amended that

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city council approve the proposal with

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the following conditions uh the

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applicant will need to submit a formal

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land development plan set containing the

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formal cover sheet illustrating

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requisite site aspects uh as opposed to

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um a construction plan with only

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internal space uh and addressing

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comments from State departments um and

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the applicant I believe is working on

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getting that and I'm sure that will be

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um finalized uh after city council

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action uh and will include any comments

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or any requirements that uh the council

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members add to the project uh the

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applicant will also receive a

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certificate of qualification pursuant to

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chapter 12101 of title 12 uh the

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affordable housing certification uh

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prior to recording the land development

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plan with the Dolphin County Recorder

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deeds and that will certify those two

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units as affordable um if any other

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exterior alterations are proposed other

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than those included in the current

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application and a previous previously

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submitted building permit the applicant

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will submit a certificate of

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appropriateness application and receive

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approval from harb uh and thus far um

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they have gotten approval for a building

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permit to begin some preliminary

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demolition on the interior of the

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structure and there's been uh some

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discussion um with the contractors about

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uh what types of uh work they're

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proposing but uh so far uh through those

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conversations uh they've just been

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proposing to replace some of the glass

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panes that are broken and otherwise do

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some in otherwise do some in kind uh

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Replacements of minor exterior elements

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around the uh periphery of the building

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uh and then finally the applicant will

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coordinate the with the Department of

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Public Works to ensure that the account

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B is updated to reflect the proposed

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change in use uh the Planning Commission

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recommended that city council approve

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the request for the following reasons

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the applicant has received the requisite

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zoning relief for approvals to proceed

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with the project as proposed and that

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was earlier last year in April of 2024

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uh the proposed project will adaptively

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reuse a vacant office building bringing

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an historically architecturally and

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culturally significant property back

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into productive use and in fact will

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reestablish a residential use on site um

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as opposed to other multif family

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conversions in recent years the

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applicant has been proactive in securing

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enough off street parking to accommodate

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all residents of the development

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obviating concerns expressed by nearby

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residents regarding the limited number

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of on Street spaces uh and finally the

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proposed reuse will add new residents to

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the neighborhood to activate the street

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on nights and weekends and grow customer

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based to support local

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businesses thank you and this

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application if we don't act it will be

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doomed to approve January 30th right uh

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off the top of my head I'm not sure uh

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the um uh Miss Cameron's telling me it's

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the 31st 31st okay thank you um okay if

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I apologies to the applicant to canc you

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so if you don't mind introducing

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yourself and giving us a brief

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description of the project when we

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intend to start when do you think it

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will be concluded has the property been

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vacant and if so for how long and um the

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two affordable units are they the single

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the one bedroom or two bedrooms or mix

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of both so if you could just briefly

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share us share with us your the vision

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for your project uh good evening

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everybody my name is Vernon Jones I'm

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the owner at uh Front Street LS LLC

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excuse me could you yeah get close to

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the mic or as close as you can to the

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micone I think is this okay okay thank

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you good evening guys my name is Vernon

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Jones uh owner at Front Street Lofts LLC

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um I think it was you got a few

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questions there but um

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uh I think to answer the them in in in

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order uh we have the two units that are

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going to be um affordable those are two

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one-bedroom units um that we have we

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plan on starting work as soon as we get

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approvals um we you know soon as we get

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approvals we'll be able to get our

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permits and and get started um on rough

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plumbing and rough electric uh um was I

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think there was one more question right

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um sure

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that yes how has the property been

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vacant and if so for how long so it's

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been vacant for three years at this

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point I think uh it might be approaching

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four because last year was at three so I

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think it might be approaching four four

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years thank you um so I'll open it up

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now uh to my council members and I'm

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going to start to the

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far left which is councilman Jones thank

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you uh councilwoman Daniels how you

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doing today sir good doing well man um I

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read through this man um first I just

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want to say um I commend you on doing

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this uh project here um of course we

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need as much business as we can flowing

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through uh the city of Harrisburg and I

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think this is a step in the right

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direction um um it's also bringing some

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jobs with you correct that's right um

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yeah I just think that this is a great

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project man and um look forward to

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seeing you uh succeed at the

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that's all I have appreciate

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that thank you um councilman Rodriguez

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thank you madam chair uh thank you for

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joining us this evening and I have no

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further question well I have no

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questions thank

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you

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thank Ross thank you councilwoman

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Daniels um good evening to you both

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thank you for being here um the

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resolution was pretty straightforward

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and um the answers that you gave so I

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don't have any further questions I look

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forward to seeing um what you produce

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out of this and how it adds to the

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community definely thank you thank you

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president

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Bowers thank you um I just had one

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clarifying question related to the

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affordable unit I wanted to ensure that

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that meant

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affordability uh related to the city of

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Harrisburg versus uh dolin County's

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median family income for sure yeah I

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mean we own N9 buildings in the area and

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we we specifically look out section A

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tenants we this is what we do um so the

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to answer your question it will be

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affordable to the city to the people who

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live in the city of Harrisburg um uh

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versus Dolphin County okay well thank

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you thank you for that um so with eight

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units at least two would be deemed

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affordable in our affordable housing

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program so I was just just wanted to

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clarify that that so thank you very much

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for the consideration no

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problem thank you um vice president

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green thank you very much uh thank you

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for being here tonight thank you for

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bringing this project before us uh I

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don't have any questions but I look

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forward to seeing it come to to tuition

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tuition thank you uh councilwoman Davis

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thank you councilwoman Daniels I don't

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have any questions thank you for

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providing uh the construction there's um

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parking and affordable housing that

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comes with it so I think that pretty

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satis much satisfies the city um so

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thank you I look forward to seeing the

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end product as well thank

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you thank you um does anyone have any

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last minute

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questions

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no thank you I can't

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see okay thank you very much um I would

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recommend that we add resolution 82 -224

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to the next legislative session and

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recommend that um we approve the project

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and and that's it for the um the

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business of this committee today thank

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you thank you um we will now move

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forward with our meeting agenda next we

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have public comment um if you're

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interested in offering public comment

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please state your name and your address

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for the meeting record if you don't feel

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comfortable sharing your address please

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share the vicinity in which you live

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within in the city uh you will have four

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minutes to share your comments Mr Parker

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will serve as our timekeeper I will

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begin to my right is there anyone that

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would like to offer public

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comment okay seeing and hearing no one

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anyone in the middle

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section seeing and hearing no one anyone

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to my

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left oh I'm

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sorry okay

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well there was someone else that sit up

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on the left side of the room so um you

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can

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follow our comments

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hello my name is Ken Miller I've been in

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here plenty of times I'm from Harrisburg

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I will say don't have a specific place

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I'll just say Harrisburg period because

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that's I'm all around um I want to start

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off by saying Lamont Jones

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congratulations last time I was here I

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spoke on you being presented with

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lawsuits and you I don't feel like you

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deserve that and I feel like if

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everybody would like to open up their

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doors they might as well open them you

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feel me okay um but I'm here to tell you

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that um this here is bigger than you

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right so I you to shake this table okay

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shake it the community um that you state

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that you're here for okay um you've been

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in

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facilities surrounded by snakes so I'm

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sure you know how to move and this

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Podium ain't no different

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okay um president Bowers Rodriguez green

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Daniels um you guys are going to end up

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telling on each other um there's a lot

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of things that go on behind the scenes

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when these C are off okay

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um I consider this there's so much

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corruption and you guys took vows and

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Oaths and sworn

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in to open up these doors and

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speak you know I mean not just be meant

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for a seat you can pass the torch to

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anybody

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um but I will continue to speak on the

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corruption in my city including Wanda

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Williams the police department and

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police commissioner Carter the

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intimidation tactics are

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trash it's not gonna ever make me shut

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up I've been shot for saving kids I've

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been stabbed for saving

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them I teach them and I don't even have

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any but they don't have to be mine for

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me to support them I speak for the

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homeless I speak for people that have no

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voice I speak for the victims and all I

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was meant with was

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disrespect so

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what I'm going to say is for one thing

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for a lot of people that wanted to run

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me out this city this is my city and I'm

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going to leave when I want to it didn't

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stop me from starting a business it

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didn't stop me from writing a book it

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didn't stop me from achieving any goal

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that I ever wanted to to sit here and

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see these people and come back in

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here is that's not what I wanted to do

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but I definitely wanted to congratulate

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you and for marijua

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Williams to feel as though her seat is

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solid Tri to be a mayor she wouldn't

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even be throwing shots she' be sitting

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pretty but that mean but her closet door

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is open the stuff doesn't go unnoticed

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and I'm going keep continuing talking

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I'mma continue to write and I'mma

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continue to show up thank

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you thank

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you good evening members of City Council

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and Harrisburg residents my name is

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Cynthia Lee Watkins and I am here in

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support of the

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$250,000 that should rightly be due to

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the Hines Senior Center I'm a senior I'm

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a longtime lifelong taxpaying

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home-owning resident of the city of

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Harrisburg now I've been watching what's

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been going on between the council and

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the mayor and I don't always agree with

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the mayor I don't always agree with the

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councel but right now I feel like

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council is using the senior citizens as

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hostages in their fight with the mayor

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and I must say as a senior citizen

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living in the city and paying taxes I

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don't like it and my neighbors don't

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like it and Council needs to remember

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that the majority of people who vote in

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this city are senior citizens thank

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you if you could stay behind oh that's

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what I was going

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yes if you could stay behind for this

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meeting to be over we can have

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conversation I would like to that thank

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you thank you is there anyone else that

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would like to offer a public

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comment okay seeing and hearing no one

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the time is

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5:53 p.m. I will entertain a motion to

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adjourn motion to adjourn is there a

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second second thank you we stand a journ

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