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2025 Budget Hearing Meeting #4 - 12/12/24

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we are going to officially call to order

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our fourth and potentially final budget

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hearing tonight uh Mr trell if you could

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do the roll

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call Miss

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Daniels Miss Davis present Miss green

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present Mr Jones here Miss Rose

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present Mr Rodriguez

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okay president miss Bowers

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president thank you I will note that

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councilman Rodriguez is present um

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through Zoom joining us tonight uh we

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will have a little change to our agenda

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tonight we are going to start with the

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Bureau of planning so um if Mr Jeff

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Knight could join

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us good evening if you could just

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introduce yourself give us an overview

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of your Department uh go through your

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presentation and then we'll open it up

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for questions uh yes so uh Jeffrey

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Knight I'm the planning director uh and

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the flip plan administrator for the city

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uh director of the planning Bureau um

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don't know if my presentation's up quite

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yet but uh basically we handle um a lot

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of the Land Development issues here in

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the city of Harrisburg whether they

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relate to um new

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construction uh zoning issues historic

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district issues or flood

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uh issues um we also are responsible for

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utilizing um two basic documents in the

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uh uh implementation of our duties uh

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the zoning code uh which was adopted by

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City Council in 2014 and the city's

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comprehensive plan which was adopted by

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uh Council in 2020 um and then in

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addition to our short and long range of

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um responsibilities for both um you know

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near-term physical development such as

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new construction uh as well as long-term

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issues uh such as um figuring out uh how

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to improve our flood plane management

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for example um we are the staff uh and

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manage three different boards here in

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the city the Harrisburg Planning

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Commission the Harrisburg Architectural

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Review Board which handles historic

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district reviews and then the uh zoning

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hearing board uh here at the city um are

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daily

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uh um kind of worklog we take walk-ins

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uh we take emails we take phone calls uh

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that includes both myself and our urban

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planner one Kat Kini uh and we also

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review permits that come from both the

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codes Department uh and that's largely

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building permits uh and then also

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reviews of permits from the tax

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Enforcement office and that includes

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bantal permits and sometimes sidewalk

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use permits uh in addition to uh those

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those core kind of daily uh and monthly

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responsibilities we also coordinate with

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various departments throughout the city

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uh from a number of perspectives um many

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of the Departments get uh Our Land

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Development plans for example for their

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review and comment uh and then we also

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coordinate uh with other departments

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like the engineers office for example on

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new Transportation projects here in the

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city um and up there is uh kind of the

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most recent um documents that uh big

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planning documents that the uh

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department has uh developed including

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the comprehensive plan which I had

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previously noted was passed in 2020 and

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then our historic district design

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guidelines uh which were passed in

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2021 um so since that since that time uh

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our work has largely been to implement

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um the projects and Concepts in the

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comprehensive plan and also apply the

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zoning code in the review of uh new

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development proposals new use proposals

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um and other uh larger

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projects uh so with respect to our 2025

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proposed budget um and uh compared to

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our 2024 budget we actually have a very

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minor increase uh I believe the increase

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is about $2,500 and that's limited to

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the 2% uh in the staff increases um we

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don't really have much discretionary

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discretionary funding in the department

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uh our uh funding largely falls into two

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buckets one of those being salaries for

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our positions and the other being uh the

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costs of managing and operating the

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zoning hearing board meetings uh those

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include both uh legal ads that are

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required for each monthly meeting uh the

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stenographer that attends those meetings

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and then the zoning hearing board

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solicitor who acts as uh the legal

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councel for the board members they are a

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separate board from the city uh so have

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their own legal

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council uh our current uh staff

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compliment is both myself as I noted uh

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and uh Kat Kini she's our urban planner

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one um so we have one male one female

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both white um I am I guess have some

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Spanish speaking abilities and uh a

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background and Cat uh is much more

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conversent in Spanish so she uh engages

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um mostly with uh our members of the

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public who are primar Spanish speaking

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as a first point of contact and we often

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work with um Melissa uh Masones um as

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well in uh coordinating with them and

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communicating with those members of the

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public to ensure that we are getting uh

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the information across

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correctly uh right now we currently have

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two uh vacancies uh the deputy planning

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director uh who is also the zoning

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officer and our historic preservation

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specialist um um the deputy plane

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director position's been vacant since

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about the beginning of

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February uh when our previous um uh

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individual who was in that role uh left

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the city and the historic preservation

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specialist position's been vacant uh for

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quite some time for about three years

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now uh so we do not receive any uh

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grants uh in or disperse any grants uh

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through the planning Bureau um we used

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to receive uh granting uh uh a grant

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from uh Pennsylvania Museum Historical

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Museum commission uh to fund some of our

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historic uh District activities but we

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no longer receive that um so we really

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don't do any management of funds and

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again the special projects are largely

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related to some of the long-term

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planning issues like um working with the

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city Engineers office on their Vision

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zero policy or perhaps

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uh working towards improving our

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community rating system

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level uh we and with regard to the arpa

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projects uh we do not receive any um

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arpa funds for projects that we manage

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or disperse

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any and um we do not have any new

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positions in the department planned uh

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I'll um our Focus right now is just

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filling the two vacancies that we

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have uh so

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with respect to our year- to-day budget

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again our um budget is relatively flat

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especially when it comes to uh the

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zoning hearing board

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um uh uh funds uh the legal ads we hit

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about two-thirds this year um and our

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stenographer we were about 80% and our

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zoning hearing board solicor is about

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50% although we still haven't received

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our uh uh the invoice for December of

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this year um now those numbers seem

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pretty low but I would say that this

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year was uh a bit out of the ordinary we

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didn't have any cases for one meeting

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one Mon's meeting so that kept uh the

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legal ad and solicitor um uh amounts

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lower and for three of the other

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meetings we either had one case or had a

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case that was just continued so there

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was minimal uh time spent during those

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meetings uh that acred cost for the city

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so I think maintaining the level is

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always prudent because we're not sure

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exactly what types of cases or how big

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our agendas are going to be in the

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upcoming year we might receive a a lot

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and in which case we'd rather have that

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money than have to move it around

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towards the end of the

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year uh none of our salaries are

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proposed to exceed the um planned 2%

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increase uh so our goals and this was

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pulled from uh the I think first

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quarterly report I gave at the beginning

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of this year um was is uh filling vacant

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positions uh which has been an ongoing

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um challenge for us um I think we're not

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getting a whole lot of um new qualified

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candidates for each of these positions

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maybe one or two every few months um so

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it's something that we're working on uh

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both internally and with HR to uh expand

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uh the reach of our advertising and

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position uh announcements um maybe

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reaching out to some of the local

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colleges especially those with graduate

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programs and trying to find potential

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graduates um who might be uh graduating

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in May of this year this upcoming year

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so we'll be definitely be looking to

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Target people ahead of that uh the

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comprehensive plan documentation um so

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we have been working on that uh both

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things that we are able to do kind of

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internally and then things that we are

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coordinating on with our G administrator

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um to get our Maps together and then

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compiled into a story map format which

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is um you know I think something that

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would be more uh digestible by the

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general public and to get that up on our

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website uh zoning Amendment packages um

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I'm putting those together at um right

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now uh for a couple different packages

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and that would be largely confined to

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different topical areas like signage or

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um looking at the allowable uh use chart

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in um section 7-35 point7 of the zoning

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code so I'd like to take those in kind

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of their own topical areas one at a time

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rather than doing a full uh big kind of

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Omnibus package of of those um updates

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and I the intention will be to kind of

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largely reflect some of

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the uh projects and permits that we've

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been getting um and to look at what

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other industry or what other communities

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are doing and maybe try and have our uh

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regulations better reflect what we're

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seeing kind of uh currently so that

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we're not foring um individuals or

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businesses to uh come through the

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process as much if it's not as necessary

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um as noted we're working to improve the

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community rating systems level right now

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we're level eight Community um and uh

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We've gradually over the years been

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gaining points here and there um and

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we're I think right below the threshold

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for a level seven um so we're hoping to

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identify some location or some areas

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within uh FEMA scoring Matrix to score a

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few additional points to get us over

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that level seven our uh planner one has

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reviewed um all of the uh communities

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participating in FEMA's rating system

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throughout the country that are level

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seven or better and we're looking at

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areas where for communities where we

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could maybe take some of their

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recommendations or their ideas uh and

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apply them here in Harrisburg to again

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try to find those easy points to get up

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um another level for this upcoming year

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um and then finally um improving

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documentation uh I'm almost done with

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updating your documentation to be uh

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more comprehensive uh and uh clear

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especially with regard to the

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instructions on our application sheets

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um a lot of our applications are

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somewhat older and uh the instructions

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might not be as relevant um now as they

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used to be so uh we're trying to make

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sure we are providing you know

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comprehensive but concise instructions

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at the frontend and for the public so

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that they not only know what to provide

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but know how the process is going to go

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and know what their responsibilities are

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within that process and uh once those

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are finished we'll be putting those up

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on the

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website uh so our goals for the upcoming

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year are uh largely to continue um with

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our goals from this year uh hopefully if

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we're able to fill uh those two

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vacancies we have or even one of the

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vacancies uh with a qualified candidate

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will

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really be able to uh step up uh the

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progress on some of these other goals

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and maybe even uh look to adopt some new

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goals for the upcoming year um again

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working with our GIS administrator on

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the uh story mapping to get that up on

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the city's website uh the zoning

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Amendment packages that uh we would be

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introducing in the spring and those

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would go before Planning Commission

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before coming to city council here um as

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I noted getting our uh CRS rating um to

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C Level uh the documentation for our CRS

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annual CRS report is due at the end of

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um January and the beginning of February

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uh so we would know sometime end of

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February maybe beginning of March

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whether we were able to um increase our

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uh level in that regard uh and then

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beyond just the updates um that I'm

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doing on the

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applications uh we're also going to be

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working um with Melissa and with cat uh

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to get these translated into Spanish um

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for our Spanish speaking members of the

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public um and if there are other uh

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languages that we're able to translate

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those into we're happy to look at those

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as

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well um so as far as performance

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performance metrics um a lot of the work

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we do is more qualitative uh rather than

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quantitative um you know we have a

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certain number of cases each month for

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har Planning Commission zoning hearing

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board what have you um but it's hard to

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compare those I between the years to to

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say whether you know more applications

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means you're doing better or uh whether

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less applications means you're doing

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better because you're getting more um uh

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compliance with our existing regulations

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so it's really I think difficult for us

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to apply a metrics um that being said uh

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you know we do track uh the various

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inquiries we get the permits we review

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um so that's something we're tracking on

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a monthly level to make sure uh that you

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know

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we're processing these things as best we

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can it's a little challenging with our

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Uh current vacancies and the capacity

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constraints that puts on the department

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um but we're always looking to you know

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try and find ways to improve our

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efficiency so that we're able to uh work

15:48

better for not just uh the community but

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also for other departments in the

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city thank you very much Mr Knight uh

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I'm going to open up to my colleagues

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for questions I'm going to start to my

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right here uh with councilwoman Daniels

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any questions no questions thank you

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councilwoman Davis thank you vice

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president green thank you for being here

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this evening um so you mentioned you

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were tracking to improve efficiency are

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you currently using the munis system so

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we have not started using that yet um I

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know uh the

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a consultant that's managing that is

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taking these things on like a department

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by Department approach and I think

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they're uh working with other

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departments at the at the moment we'll

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probably be on the back end of the full

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implementation of that uh now that being

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said we are working with the codes

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Bureau uh to make sure that um our

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information is accurate uh when it goes

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into munice uh from the current uh

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system um so that we're not propagating

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maybe any issues from the past uh into

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the future here so we are working pretty

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closely with the codes Bureau uh on

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their implementation of the munus system

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okay thank

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you thank you very much president

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Bowers I don't have any questions thank

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you councilwoman Ross thank you vice

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president green good evening director

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Knight I don't have any questions thank

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you for your

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presentation thank you very much

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councilman

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Rodriguez thank you madam chair can

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everyone hear me yes y

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oh my apologies if I break in and out

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I'm traveling this evening um but I

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thank you for um and I thank you Mr Jeff

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mcnight for joining us and I thank you

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for uh looking forward to translating

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those things into Spanish because it is

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a heavily populated culture in the

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community so thank you for that and I

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have nothing

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further thank you very much and

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councilman Jones Thank You vice

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president green no questions thank you

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very much um I just have one question

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with um with the two vacancies that have

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kind of been vacant most of the year um

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how is the work being split up to make

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sure it's still being achieved uh so a

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lot of the um monthly meeting work uh

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that these other department or these

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other uh positions would be uh handling

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are being managed by me but a lot of the

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day-to-day kind of public facing aspects

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of these jobs um are being handled by

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our urban planner one okay thank you

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very much I don't have any further

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questions anyone else seeing none thank

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you very much Mr Knight we have a great

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evening you

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do next we will come back to the top of

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our agenda and go to the Bureau of

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information and

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Technology good evening if you wouldn't

18:52

mind introducing yourself giving us a

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departmental overview and then going

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through your presentation then we'll

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open it for questions sure uh thank

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thank you my name is Steve bortner IT

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director for the

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city um give you a brief overview of the

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department um we're responsible for

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basically administration of all of our

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systems that includes uh Mainframe

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Network and cloud-based

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systems um and All City departments

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utilize the systems that we have

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deployed and we provide technical

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support and the maintenance for all

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city-owned devices and network equipment

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and this includes uh desktop PC laptops

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tablets and cell

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phones um we also partner with local

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state and National organizations to help

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extend and expand the technological

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capabilities within the city and we also

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evaluate emerging Technologies to see if

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they would be a good fit for uh the

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systems that we do have deployed as well

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as modernize some of the systems that we

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have uh some of our daily

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responsibilities include

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monitoring uh resolving the support that

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come through the help desk every day uh

20:01

we monitor uh server activity throughout

20:04

the day and we also monitor any uh virus

20:07

activity and cyber threats that may

20:10

potentially get into the

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city um significant budget changes there

20:17

were uh two accounts that have um

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increases for 2025 the first one is the

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maintenance services contracts um

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accounting that increase by 483,000

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um 281,000 of that is for

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2024 encumbrances which were not spent

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in 2024 but will be spent in

20:39

2025 um 196,000 is for uh increases to

20:44

existing maintenance on purchases that

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we made in 2024 as well as in previous

20:49

years and then the remaining increase is

20:52

$6,000 for miscellaneous items and this

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is our biggest account there's basically

20:57

36 different different uh items or

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vendors that we work with with this

21:02

specific account and then the second

21:05

account is the equipment data processing

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account um that increased by

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735,000

21:12

391,000 of that is for uh 2024

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encumbrances again it weren't spent in

21:17

2024 but will be in

21:20

2025 um

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19,000 is for an additional uh data

21:26

redundancy device that we would put in

21:28

our second secondary data center which

21:30

we established earlier this year and

21:33

then uh the remaining 19,000 is for um

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anticipated increases in the annual

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munus fees um this total is offset by

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$19,000 on items that we completed in

21:47

2024 or um the encumbrance would be

21:51

rolled into 2025 so the completed items

21:54

are not included in the 2025 budget

21:59

on the departmental divers diversity we

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have six males one of which is Asian and

22:03

one female and we have one employee that

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knows gujarti and Hindi which are both

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Indian

22:13

languages we have no vacancies in our

22:16

2025

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budget and we have no grants or special

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projects in the

22:23

budget we also have no arpa projects in

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the

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budget there are no new positions in the

22:32

2025 uh year-to dat budgets um the 2025

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budget does align with our 2024 spending

22:39

totals other than the items that were

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outlined in the budget changes question

22:45

earlier and there are no instances where

22:48

our 2024 spending exceeds what we have

22:51

in our 202

22:54

budget and none of our uh salary

22:57

increases exed to 2% for

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2025 uh departmental highlights 2024

23:06

goals uh we implemented the asset

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maintenance phase of the munus migration

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project uh earlier this year in the vmc

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and as of uh earlier this week uh since

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February they've entered over 1,200 work

23:21

orders on behic at the

23:24

vmc um we've also continued work on the

23:27

remaining phases of of that project uh

23:30

the those phases are human Capital

23:32

Management tax billing and

23:34

collections uh licenses permits and

23:37

codes enforcement and this kind of

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addresses uh the question about uh the

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planning Bureau with Jeff Knight his

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will be part of that particular phase

23:46

and then the last one is utility

23:49

building uh we also completed the

23:51

implementation of our core switch

23:53

replacement in our primary data center

23:56

and that was um to eliminate aging

23:59

hardware and a single point of failure

24:00

on the network um and as I mentioned we

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established a secondary data center um

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at another city

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facility um in case that we do have any

24:11

hardware issues or uh infrastructure

24:14

outages here in our primary data

24:17

center uh we replaced our storage area

24:19

network with new storage arrays in both

24:22

our primary and secondary data

24:26

centers um we increas improve the

24:29

overall uh network speed and reliability

24:32

for all of the city-owned facilities

24:34

that are connected to the data center

24:36

here and we uh completed the

24:39

implementation of the arcgis Enterprise

24:41

uh platform for our GIS applications we

24:45

have more work to do there but we have

24:47

the basics in

24:48

place and we um earlier this year I

24:51

guess back in the summer time address

24:53

the issues that um related to the uh

24:57

crowd strike update that basically made

25:01

every city computer inoperable until we

25:04

applied a patch so we took care of that

25:06

as quickly as we

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could uh goals for 2025 is to REM uh

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implement the remaining phases of the

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migration

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project uh we want to install the

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uninterruptible power supply uh device

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and upgrade our uh electrical cabinet in

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the primary data center uh we have

25:26

already removed the old PS and we have

25:29

started to work on the electrical work

25:31

in the data

25:33

center um several years ago we converted

25:36

the historical police data from the

25:38

Mainframe Metro System um we discovered

25:42

there was some data that was missing so

25:43

we're in the process of working through

25:45

a reconversion of that data into the Cod

25:48

system uh we also want to implement

25:51

multiactor authentication for all city

25:53

employees which will help to reduce any

25:56

chance of cyber security attacks

25:59

and finally we want to complete another

26:01

cyber security assessment with the

26:03

Pennsylvania National Guard and this

26:05

would kind of uh see how we did uh with

26:09

the recommendations that they made from

26:11

the previous assessment back in

26:17

2023 uh performance metrics uh we don't

26:20

have anything specific that we use but

26:22

we strive to make sure that uh

26:25

connectivity to the network and the

26:27

internet is available at all times for

26:29

all employees and that all of our

26:32

systems are functioning correctly for

26:34

all of our users uh we also strive to

26:37

ensure that any of the support tickets

26:39

that are submitted throughout the week

26:41

uh they're reviewed evaluated and

26:44

resolved in a timely manner to the

26:46

satisfaction of our various

26:51

users and then the additional questions

26:53

the equipment data processing budget um

26:55

that was addressed in the budget changes

26:57

question

26:59

uh 2025 capital projects uh as I

27:02

mentioned implement the remaining phases

27:05

of mun migration project and install the

27:08

ups and upgrade the electrical cabinet

27:11

which uh both of those have been

27:14

started uh the completed capital

27:16

projects were described in the

27:18

highlights

27:19

question and the Deferred capital

27:22

projects are included in the proposed

27:24

2025 budget which was addressed in the

27:27

significant budget

27:30

changes thank you very much I'm going to

27:33

open it up for questions to my

27:35

colleagues I'm going to start to my far

27:37

left with councilman Jones thank you um

27:41

nice presentation no questions thank you

27:44

very much councilman

27:46

Rodriguez thank you Madame vice

27:48

president um thank you for the

27:50

presentation this evening no questions

27:52

from thank you councilwoman Ross good

27:55

evening thank you for your presentation

27:57

I don't have any questions

27:59

thank you president vowers good evening

28:01

I just have two questions for you um so

28:04

you mentioned the remaining phases of

28:06

the migration so can you please provide

28:09

a tentative timeline of the migration uh

28:13

from the main frame um so the first one

28:16

is the human Capital Management um that

28:19

one's taken quite a bit longer it's more

28:21

involved and um we had anticipated but

28:24

at this point I would Envision an early

28:27

third quarter implementation of

28:30

that um the second one is utility or uh

28:34

tax billing um we're working through a

28:38

lot of the issues there I would Envision

28:40

probably second quarter implementation

28:43

on that um the licenses permits and

28:48

codes enforcement again probably second

28:50

quarter with that one and then Utility

28:53

Billing is the one that we got started

28:55

um last um we have provided them with

28:59

the data that they need to convert into

29:01

munus and that would probably be um a

29:04

late third quarter early fourth quarter

29:09

implementation thank you and then

29:11

finally can you please provide for the

29:14

benefit of the public and update on the

29:16

operation Municipal migration steering

29:20

committee so we we do have a steering

29:22

committee uh comprised of eight members

29:25

um over the late spring early summer

29:28

early fall months we did not meet um

29:32

primarily because we had two members who

29:34

were not there um now that we have a new

29:36

VA on board we have resumed those we

29:39

have had two meetings since then we have

29:41

another one on Monday and we'll uh try

29:45

to keep to our every two week meeting

29:47

schedule that we have U had in place

29:51

prior to

29:53

that thank

29:55

you thank you very much Council

29:58

Davis thank you vice president green

30:01

good evening Mr gner thank you for being

30:03

here I just have one question are we

30:06

currently incorporating the iCloud

30:10

Computing or any artificial intelligence

30:13

in the

30:14

technology um that's an area we have not

30:16

done a lot of research into yet um with

30:19

everything else going on we haven't

30:21

devoted a lot of time but it is

30:23

something that is uh definitely out

30:26

there something we are going to have to

30:28

to evaluate at some point in the near

30:30

future and I'm hoping at some point in

30:32

2025 we can get that

30:35

started otherwise thank you for your

30:37

presentation thank you thank you very

30:40

much councilwoman Daniels any

30:43

questions thank you very much um are

30:45

there any other questions or

30:48

comments seeing none thank you very much

30:50

for your presentation tonight and thank

30:52

you for all the work you

30:55

do next we will hear from the department

30:59

of building and

31:23

housing good evening good even Council

31:27

I'm Gloria Martin Roberts inarm director

31:29

of the Department of Community Economic

31:31

Development and building and housing uh

31:34

this evening uh we are going to cover a

31:38

uh the Department of Community uh

31:41

economic developments business and

31:43

economic uh Development

31:46

Area

31:50

um um this is the only area in the

31:53

department uh related to the general

31:56

fund and um with that uh we our goal is

32:01

to create thriving commercial quarters

32:03

increase economic Vitality healthy

32:07

neighborhoods create thriving commercial

32:09

corridors increase economic vitality and

32:12

underst served areas and assist promote

32:15

and encourage job creation industrial

32:18

activity and Entrepreneurship within the

32:21

city

32:29

the first question here please provide

32:31

an explanation with justification for

32:34

any line item that has significantly

32:36

increased or decreased compared to the

32:38

2024 allocation there are no

32:42

increases

32:44

decreases due to the general fund

32:46

percent uh percentage of the two

32:50

director positions changing uh during

32:53

the year so we saw decrease in that

32:59

our department

33:01

diversity we have two black females and

33:05

two black

33:09

males we have no vacancies in that

33:23

area provide an update on any grants or

33:25

special progress projects progress

33:28

within each

33:29

department we are currently working on

33:32

identifying uh stakeholders that will be

33:34

a part of an economic development

33:37

committee so that we can um re uh

33:42

redefine a um an document I think that

33:47

was given to you probably last year or

33:50

maybe the beginning of of this year

33:52

which was an outline provided by Jason

33:55

Graves um uh giving basically outline of

33:59

those areas that he felt uh should be

34:02

addressed in an economic and business

34:05

development plan that is not um this is

34:09

not a An approved plan that was given to

34:12

you uh this was a uh document that uh

34:18

entertained the areas that we should be

34:20

addressing in the city and those areas

34:24

would be um items that we would be disc

34:27

discussing in a committee that would

34:29

also involve Council as well as

34:31

stakeholders throughout the

34:35

city we have no arpa projects in

34:38

business resource

34:42

development we have no new

34:46

positions with

34:48

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34:54

2025 the question does the current

34:56

budget proposer for 2025 align with the

34:59

year-to date spending tools incurred

35:01

thus far for 2024 yes the operational

35:05

budget is the same as

35:08

2024 are there any instances where

35:10

current year-to-date spending in 2024

35:13

significantly exceeds the proposed

35:16

budgeted line items for 2025 no there

35:19

are

35:26

none there's no no positions receiving

35:29

more than a 2%

35:36

increase in terms of that area's

35:39

highlights uh you're asking that we

35:41

explain the 2024 goals and the progress

35:44

made um Jason grave completed the

35:48

development of a draft Economic

35:49

Development strategic outline again that

35:53

was the document I think that was given

35:54

to you it was before my time here so I'm

35:57

not sure when it was circulated to you

36:01

I'm sorry uh during the 2024 budget

36:04

hearings okay thank you well that's the

36:06

document that he completed um the goal

36:09

for 2025 is again to convene a committee

36:12

of stakeholders to develop a

36:14

comprehensive economic development plan

36:17

and we want to use that draft that Jason

36:20

provided as a stepping zone for the

36:22

committee to begin their work

36:28

the examples of a performance metric I

36:31

hold weekly staff meetings one-on-one

36:34

meetings weekly written reports and

36:36

quarterly

36:45

reports thank you very much and that was

36:47

for the Bureau of business and re

36:49

resource

36:51

development um that was for economic

36:54

develop community and economic

36:56

development yes all right right and so

36:58

we don't have any updates from building

36:59

and housing although I do understand the

37:01

majority of

37:03

the tasks that are completed in there

37:05

are funded through a HUD budget that

37:07

runs October to October from correct um

37:09

I do believe the HUD uh the ARA programs

37:11

run out of the building and housing

37:13

department which do come out of the

37:14

general fund we have um a home arpa

37:19

program uh that is the only arpa program

37:23

that is in the department uh it houses

37:26

two employees

37:28

um and it is a home program uh that um

37:32

provides home rehab to the citizens in

37:36

the city of Harrisburg it's an

37:37

application

37:39

process um when I came on board they had

37:43

just um uh put out a a call for

37:47

applications we received 250

37:51

applications um we have uh reviewed 45

37:55

of those applications five projects are

37:58

in place one of the uh challenges is

38:02

that we have several home programs but

38:05

we don't have enough contractors often

38:08

times to meet the needs of the requests

38:10

that we get in so it appears to be a

38:12

slow process but the process is because

38:15

we don't always have we're sharing

38:17

contractors between uh three different

38:19

home

38:20

programs um however um we are staff are

38:25

reviewing those applications

38:27

um to make sure that people are eligible

38:30

to receive Rehab

38:32

Services and um that's it for that

38:36

program okay um perhaps I'm mistaken as

38:40

to which departments they run out of but

38:42

I thought there was an affordable

38:44

housing uh development program that was

38:47

funded through the arpa funds that the

38:48

city got um I thought it was like four

38:51

or five different programs that R we

38:52

going to run out of the department of

38:54

building and housing I can't think of

38:56

them off the top I know I correct I know

38:58

were home repairs Bridge housing and the

39:02

senior program but you're it's not

39:05

listed here but yes you are correct

39:07

there is an affordable housing program

39:10

that should be operating out of this

39:13

department as well you're talking about

39:14

the H uh hrp program that has been in

39:18

existence no no I'm talking about um

39:22

when the city received arpa funds and we

39:23

went through the town halls and we did

39:25

the whole thing and I was here for that

39:27

that's but in your department there are

39:29

several programs that are supposed to

39:31

run out of it so I'm not sure if if you

39:33

don't know of hous that's those are the

39:37

dollars that were given to Christian

39:39

churches

39:42

United and downtown da Brett they each

39:44

receive

39:46

$500,000 to open their doors 365 days

39:51

for the homeless

39:54

population can we backtrack or we open

39:57

the questions um I'm going to open up to

39:59

questions from my colleagues I'll start

40:01

with President Bowers thank you so I

40:03

wanted to clarify since we

40:06

are now talking about arpa funding but I

40:09

I I do have some other questions for you

40:13

so first I wanted to clarify are you

40:16

serving as the interim director or the

40:18

director I am serving as the interum

40:21

Director okay well you introduced

40:24

yourself um during our leg legislative

40:28

session just the other day as the

40:30

Director so I wanted to clarify because

40:32

you've been employed now for six months

40:35

and six days so that exceeds the 120

40:41

day um you're laughing but I'm being

40:44

serious because I thought that this I'm

40:46

not laughing because it's funny I'm

40:47

laughing because it seems to be an issue

40:50

with this Council how long I'm going to

40:52

be here well you said when you first

40:54

arrived I don't mean to interrupt but

40:56

you did note that this was going to be a

40:58

shortterm stay so I think I'm just

41:01

trying to gain clarification 6 months

41:03

and 6 days is much longer than well let

41:06

me say

41:11

this I apologize if I said a director it

41:14

is inum

41:16

okay okay thank you secondly in terms of

41:21

my time here is interim the mayor makes

41:23

that

41:25

decision and for as long as she needs me

41:28

to correct all of the things that have

41:30

been outstanding in that department and

41:33

there were many many HUD

41:36

violations that I can provide you proof

41:39

if you need it um that have not been

41:42

done and some very major things that put

41:46

our federal funding at

41:49

risk and so for as long as the mayor

41:52

needs me there to clean up that

41:54

department I will remain there well I'm

41:56

sorry to hear that the department was in

41:58

shambles before you arrived because I

42:01

thought um given the glowing

42:05

um commentary from the mayor and other

42:08

members of the administration that the

42:10

former director was the end all be all

42:13

so I'm sorry to hear that it was in

42:15

shambles and now it's coming together

42:18

since you arrived well I again I wasn't

42:21

here so I don't know what the mayor said

42:23

in terms of the former director I only

42:25

know what I have to deal with and what

42:28

I've been dealing with and like I said

42:29

I'd be more than happy to update you on

42:32

all those things okay uh I'd like to

42:35

move to I have I do have building and

42:39

housing questions regarding um the

42:43

Department's diversity complement and if

42:46

any of the current employees are

42:50

bilingual um I have one person now I had

42:55

two currently but I have one person

42:57

now that's

42:59

biole okay regarding the lead program

43:03

what is the status of the lead program

43:06

the lead program has received

43:08

notification that we will be getting

43:11

another lead

43:12

Grant um we have the director will be

43:16

leading uh December 31st he's retiring

43:20

but he has made an a recommendation to

43:22

us on someone that could just get in

43:25

take his place because that person has

43:27

been involved with the Leb program for

43:30

many years that position um requires HUD

43:34

approval so even if we you know

43:37

interview we find that person acceptable

43:39

HUD has to approve the hiring of that

43:42

person okay how many families have been

43:45

served through this

43:47

program uh in terms of lead yes well let

43:51

me say that I didn't come prepared to do

43:53

data on the lead program because it's

43:57

under the general fund I was directed

43:59

that these questions would be related to

44:02

the general fund I'll be more than happy

44:03

to provide that information with uh to

44:06

you tomorrow I do understand that

44:08

however annually we do ask questions

44:11

regarding the lab program and the home

44:13

program um outside of the general front

44:16

questions because we do know that um as

44:19

it's been noted the majority of the

44:21

funding is federal funding okay and then

44:24

the final question regarding the lead

44:26

program was have we met our benchmarks

44:28

but I'm assuming we have since we've

44:30

been granted another yes the the the Le

44:33

program has been very very successful I

44:36

know um High Raves from HUD and um we

44:40

have been and I'll include that in the

44:42

information for you tomorrow but we have

44:44

received the highest Grant in the nation

44:46

this time well that's excellent and I

44:48

know we took on some work with the state

44:50

with their Grant as well so that's good

44:53

to know um qu I'll just relay the

44:56

questions regarding the home program and

44:58

wait to receive a response I'm curious

45:01

the status of the home program how many

45:04

families have been served through this

45:06

program have we met our benchmarks were

45:10

any local businesses contracted through

45:13

this program Harrisburg based

45:16

specifically and were any minority owned

45:18

or women-owned businesses contracted

45:21

through this program okay now which home

45:24

program are you asking for that data for

45:27

the home program that's been in

45:28

existence forever and ever the hrp yes

45:32

the home repair

45:34

program now Switching gears to the arpa

45:38

funding since that was a

45:40

discussion um I wanted to note that

45:43

we've been trying to have this

45:46

conversation um we first invited you on

45:49

September 10th to a work session um you

45:52

were not present but you did send an

45:54

email so the programs that I was

45:57

referencing minus the affordable housing

46:01

program all are under your purview so

46:06

the home repairs that's the specific

46:09

arpa one um the bridge housing which

46:12

we've already acted upon and the senior

46:17

programs and the senior program is the

46:20

one that you have had discussion about

46:23

hindes funding yes that was initially

46:26

resolution 77 but as we noted that

46:29

appropriation was removed from that

46:32

resolution so we're expecting I I assume

46:36

another reallocation a separate

46:39

reallocation to come down for further

46:42

discussion there

46:48

okay um I did find out in my research

46:52

that lick the lick building is under

46:56

rehabilitation

46:57

so it's it has no money living there so

47:00

they have no program I call

47:02

HHA um that was

47:05

shared um during the presentation public

47:09

comment the other day um so going back

47:13

to affordable housing since it's it is

47:16

or isn't under your purview I don't know

47:19

but I do know that there are two project

47:21

managers that are operating out of your

47:23

office that are designated specifically

47:27

for these programs um we haven't had an

47:30

opportunity to hear from them either uh

47:33

so we're just trying to get an idea of

47:35

the status of this funding I think that

47:38

if affordable housing is truly a

47:40

priority for this Administration then

47:42

some action should be taken there are

47:45

shovel ready projects that are waiting

47:48

on this arpa funding to

47:51

complete the projects there is an

47:54

outstanding home if we go back back to

47:57

the home

47:59

um funding from

48:03

2019 that was never dispersed it's my

48:07

understanding you're working on this for

48:10

a project that recently had a ribbon

48:12

cutting but they're still waiting on the

48:16

funding yes are you talking about bethl

48:20

no no no TLC yes I'm talking about TLC

48:24

and there those that's that's not our

48:26

funding that's I know it's not ARA

48:29

funding money it's it's home funding

48:33

from

48:34

2019

48:36

um I have not been all I know is I have

48:40

the project that's waiting for funding

48:43

from the Community Development block R

48:46

from from the federal side home and the

48:50

issue with it is um there are certain

48:53

requirements that HUD has before any of

48:56

these projects can break

48:58

ground there were three major things

49:00

that had to be done before they had

49:02

permission to even break ground those

49:05

things were not

49:07

done HUD cited us on those things I'm in

49:11

negotiations with HUD and now to try to

49:14

explain that we had you know a person

49:17

leave um that these things were not done

49:20

and asking basically for reprieve so

49:23

that we can provide funding or pay TLC

49:27

for their home that's the status of that

49:30

thank you I just had one other question

49:33

and then I'll defer my question is

49:35

related to the economic development

49:39

draft plan that you mentioned um now

49:42

mayor Williams during her budget address

49:45

shared that you found the economic

49:48

development plan uh to be in accurate I

49:52

did ask why she told me that you're

49:55

you're smart so I wanted to ask you

49:58

myself why did you find this uh plan to

50:02

be inaccurate well yeah let me let me

50:05

say that the plan it's not that the plan

50:07

is inaccurate okay it's not a plan it

50:11

was never intended to be a formalized

50:14

plan it's an outline that was provided

50:18

by Mr grave as a starting point to begin

50:21

to talk about and discuss economic

50:24

development in the city giving some

50:26

basic guidelines of what cities do to

50:30

improve Economic Development the areas

50:32

that are like type municipalities as

50:35

ours and so forth so that's the

50:37

difference it's not a plan it was meant

50:40

to be an outline he can speak to

50:45

that is that accurate Mr Graves yes that

50:48

is accurate okay thank you thank you for

50:51

providing that clarification cuz I I I

50:55

know that you did spend some time right

50:58

putting that together so and I wanted to

51:01

clarify the authority you had to deem

51:05

that it was inaccurate so thank you for

51:07

clarifying that it was not a plan simply

51:09

an outline I don't think I have any

51:12

other questions I think you provided

51:14

Clarity on the things I needed thank you

51:17

you're welcome thank you president

51:19

Bowers uh I'm going to start the

51:20

questioning uh to my far left with

51:23

councilman Jones thank you um yeah just

51:26

regarding uh the TLC from the

51:29

understanding um after looking into some

51:31

of this in 2019 as president Bowers uh

51:34

stated this money was already supposed

51:37

to be awarded to TLC and then um the new

51:41

Administration came in um and something

51:44

didn't happen with that money so can you

51:46

tell me again what you're saying about

51:48

that 6 I'm telling you I don't know

51:49

anything about that I will have to check

51:51

that out um like I said I am fro with a

51:55

lot of things that were not done um and

51:58

I will check it out and get back with

52:00

you that's the best I can do I can I can

52:02

tell you this that um I am fighting very

52:07

hard to get HUD to approve the

52:12

$600,000 is because that's what we're

52:13

talking about that goes to uh TLC

52:17

because they have done a fine job I did

52:19

tell HUD that um they were an

52:23

outstanding

52:24

developer we want don't want them to

52:28

walk away from our city and not want to

52:30

continue to help us Revitalize our city

52:32

and build our city up and so I'm waiting

52:36

to get a response from them I have had

52:39

to send to them uh other requests for

52:42

workout plans for things that were not

52:45

uh taken care of I'm happy to announce

52:48

that last week they gave me approval on

52:50

those two plans so I'm waiting to hear

52:53

from HUD on this and as far as the 20 19

52:57

I'll have to get back with you okay so I

53:00

I'll just um hold my questions until we

53:03

actually get you in your team in front

53:05

of us and um some of the questions that

53:07

uh president BS presented so uh I have

53:10

no further

53:13

questions thank you very much uh

53:15

councilman

53:17

Rodriguez thank you madam vice president

53:19

thank you um Miss glor Martin Roberts

53:22

for joining us this evening um I just

53:24

had a similar question to madam

53:26

president um I was just concerned about

53:29

the statements with Mr Graves um just

53:31

highly alarming when they say uh maybe a

53:34

director is inaccurate or the work they

53:36

he done wasn't right so that just kind

53:39

of threw my antennas up but thank you

53:41

Miss laer for being on top of it I just

53:43

look forward to seeing how that folds um

53:45

no further questions for me thank you

53:47

and you're

53:48

welcome thank you very much councilwoman

53:52

Ross good evening to you both thank you

53:54

for being here um most of my questions

53:57

um have been asked and answered and I

53:58

know you'll be sending us

54:01

information the only additional question

54:03

that I had was um I know you had

54:06

mentioned that uh with the economic plan

54:09

that the outline um that there would be

54:12

uh some type of committee formed uh uh

54:16

so I guess I would have two questions

54:17

with that when would the committee be

54:19

formed what's the time line for that and

54:23

um what exactly will that outline look

54:28

like like what are the things that they

54:29

will be exactly working on cuz we got

54:31

that a while ago um so just to refresh

54:35

so um what's going to be actually asked

54:38

upon as far as anybody who's being a

54:40

part of the committee um basically the

54:43

everything that's actually in the

54:44

outline so we'll break every down

54:45

everything down to to work groups um

54:48

perectly with everybody that's Bally

54:50

from the council's there going to be

54:51

involved with this because you are

54:53

different committees and you also do

54:54

represent the city of Harrisburg itself

54:56

so we will be breaking I will probably

54:58

like to meet with individual each one of

55:00

you guys and actually figure out who

55:02

wants to be a part of what group so we

55:04

can actually break things down and

55:05

actually start these committees going

55:07

forward so I know I've been with uh uh

55:10

representative Jones to a couple of uh

55:12

Community Council meetings um and also a

55:13

couple other committees across RS the

55:15

city so it's just trying to figure out

55:17

who can actually be involved in the work

55:19

group because we don't want to overwhelm

55:20

it to the point where we're getting

55:22

bombarded with a bunch of different

55:23

things just trying to keep it

55:24

streamlined to the basis so we can

55:25

actually grow on that okay and when do

55:29

you think like you would want to say yes

55:32

this committee is formed so I would love

55:35

to have something

55:37

form perfectly around the time probably

55:39

within the second month of the first

55:41

quarter that' be great if I can actually

55:43

I'll send each one of you probably

55:44

individual email probably directly to Mr

55:46

trale to actually sit down and talk

55:48

about a timeline when we can actually

55:50

start okay and um would members of the

55:55

community be invited to be in this group

55:58

of course counsel but okay yes so along

56:01

with a couple other like the several

56:02

committees I'm involved with we've been

56:04

having discussions about this so it's

56:06

just picking basically individual people

56:08

so we can actually have a group

56:09

committee versus just having multiple

56:11

people in multiple in different groups

56:13

so it's not overwhelming yes correct so

56:16

you're saying you would have different

56:17

groups yes with multiple people so it's

56:19

not and I would like like saying I would

56:21

love each of you to be a part of those

56:23

groups because since you do represent

56:24

each part of committees and

56:26

represents the city as well okay yes I'm

56:29

very interested in that um whether I'm

56:32

in the group or just more updates about

56:33

it I

56:34

think uh we truly do need some type of

56:38

economic plan for Harrisburg um we the

56:42

capital and I don't think that um enough

56:46

is

56:47

happening with us being the capital city

56:50

I think there is so much more that we

56:52

have to offer um and it is just we're

56:56

not moving I feel like we need to move

56:58

forward much more than we are we have a

57:00

lot of forward thinkers we need to hear

57:02

what our community members have to say

57:04

um people here at City all have this I

57:07

mean there are just so many things I

57:09

feel like Harrisburg could um be doing

57:11

and um how we could be more Progressive

57:14

in moving into the 21st century so I am

57:16

very interested in seeing what this

57:18

Economic Development

57:20

um plan is going to look like what these

57:23

focus groups are going to look like and

57:25

how we move forward so yeah you are

57:27

absolutely correct because again we have

57:28

to show more than we are just just the

57:30

capital so we do have to the thing is we

57:32

have to work together I that's been a

57:33

longstanding thing amongst the city of

57:35

Harris where you have a lot of different

57:37

groups and you have a lot of different

57:39

individuals looking for basically self-

57:41

serving things so how do we actually

57:43

pull everything together to actually

57:44

work together as one to make things

57:46

happen yeah I completely agree and I

57:48

also think that we can be the blueprint

57:49

for a lot of stuff we don't have to be

57:51

what every other city is um but that we

57:54

can Implement our own thing

57:57

are for us and people come to us and say

57:59

how did you do that um you know so I

58:01

think that that is we can be the

58:03

innovators as well so thank you um I

58:05

look forward to um updates and um

58:09

keeping keeping us posted on that and

58:11

how we can um all be a part of it so

58:13

thank you that's it for me you're

58:14

welcome thank you very much councilwoman

58:17

Davis thank you vice president green my

58:19

questions have been answered and I'll

58:20

just wait just I'll we talk and I'll

58:23

wait for the updates to come thank you

58:27

thank you councilwoman

58:30

Daniels thank you

58:33

um I don't really have any questions I

58:35

will say uh it's more of a statement um

58:39

I'm a little disappointed that we

58:40

haven't made as much progress as I

58:42

thought we would have uh with the

58:43

economic development plan uh it it's

58:46

been about a year to the day since we

58:48

got the original outline um I know that

58:51

it was supposed to be a presentation

58:52

given to the

58:53

a March April time

58:56

um I know the

58:57

a said that they offered to help us with

59:00

the development of economic plan um I

59:03

know this is something they've really

59:04

been pushing for uh and especially with

59:08

the city's past um is a is a

59:11

economically distress City it's

59:13

important for us to have that blueprint

59:15

for us to be able to move forward with

59:16

so um I'm just disappointed that we

59:18

haven't made as much progress as I

59:20

thought we would because that was a a

59:22

pretty robust outline um and to say that

59:25

we still have that same outline 365 days

59:28

later kind of just seems like it went

59:30

and sat on a show somewhere and it it it

59:32

felt like what it looked like which was

59:34

lip service you know so a year later it

59:36

feels like it was lip service you gave

59:37

us a document to say you had a document

59:39

and nothing was done from there um and

59:42

we also have to think about the way that

59:44

a true economic development plan impacts

59:46

the city um because it should impact our

59:48

zoning updates right um we are looking

59:50

to update our zoning code if we want to

59:52

have that mixed income uh that mixed use

59:55

type of infrastructure structure that

59:56

should be part of our economic

59:58

development plan that should be driving

59:59

the way um Mr Knight was just here

1:00:01

talking about the comprehensive plan

1:00:03

that was started way before it was

1:00:05

passed in 2020 um and that should be in

1:00:08

like that should be integrated into our

1:00:09

economic development plan but it should

1:00:11

also Drive the updates to our

1:00:12

comprehensive plan um right now

1:00:15

essentially without um updating the

1:00:17

comprehensive plan up without uh a true

1:00:20

economic development plan it kind of

1:00:21

seems like we're letting developers and

1:00:23

whoever decides to come into the city

1:00:25

run the show as to the city's future is

1:00:26

going to look like and that's truly not

1:00:28

acceptable um so I just say that I'm I'm

1:00:30

greatly disappointed and I look forward

1:00:32

to this committee being developed and

1:00:34

true work being done in 2025 because um

1:00:37

you know we're in a year four of this

1:00:38

Administration I know a lot of work has

1:00:39

been being done but um I think this is

1:00:41

one of the most foundational things that

1:00:44

we need to do in order to really Drive

1:00:46

our city in the right direction and say

1:00:48

we have a plan and know where we're

1:00:49

going so that we can actually measure

1:00:51

ourselves because if not we can say all

1:00:53

these great things you know we've got

1:00:54

all these buildings going up we've got

1:00:56

all these new things going on but

1:00:57

without a plan it's just kind of like a

1:01:00

chaotic mess driven from people driven

1:01:02

by people from outside the city and

1:01:04

that's not what we need it's not what

1:01:05

the residents of Harrisburg deserve uh

1:01:07

to make sure that their their future is

1:01:09

secure as well so I look forward to to

1:01:12

seeing that come um and you know let's

1:01:15

let's actually get the work done this

1:01:16

year councilwoman I appreciate those

1:01:19

comments because I have talked to the

1:01:20

members of the ice board also and you

1:01:23

are absolutely correct they're not

1:01:25

pleased

1:01:26

um with the fact that uh they're not

1:01:28

pleased with the uh document that we

1:01:31

have um they don't believe that's a real

1:01:35

document um that like you said it's lip

1:01:38

surface and I couldn't agree with you

1:01:41

more and but we will be moving forward

1:01:44

thank you I look forward to that I would

1:01:46

like to make one comment on there I um I

1:01:49

do understand that where everybody is

1:01:50

coming from the people who do think it's

1:01:52

lip service but I wouldn't say it's not

1:01:53

actually lip service um a lot of plans

1:01:56

that have been going as far as the

1:01:57

buildings and some of the Committees and

1:01:59

stuff that are actually formulating

1:02:00

plans across the city are going to be a

1:02:02

part of this plan either also committees

1:02:03

and part of uh developments that I've

1:02:05

actually been a part of that make them

1:02:07

actually happen again I have to actually

1:02:08

state I'm only one person so that's why

1:02:10

I also want to state that I actually do

1:02:12

want to work with everybody I do and

1:02:15

everybody knows for the most part here

1:02:17

you can probably mention somebody

1:02:18

mention me to somebody within the city

1:02:20

and know who I am are actually spoken

1:02:21

with me or actually needs to contact

1:02:23

with me so I do understand I do app

1:02:25

appreciate the comment and yes I will

1:02:27

try to buckle down a little bit more and

1:02:29

try to streamline a little bit more

1:02:30

things and try to Zone in but I am just

1:02:33

one

1:02:34

person all right and please don't take

1:02:36

it as as like a personal attacker that

1:02:38

we don't appreciate the work you do um I

1:02:40

I do understand you are one person um

1:02:42

and sometimes it just is you know having

1:02:44

that singular focus in this is this is

1:02:46

the most important thing you know my in

1:02:48

my position right now is really focusing

1:02:50

on this um and I'll say at least for me

1:02:52

I think that that that's something we

1:02:53

really need to to make for sure that we

1:02:55

uh we we focus on because I think it'll

1:02:57

really help move everything else a

1:02:59

little easier um and really you know

1:03:02

just create that plan so that you know

1:03:03

you don't have to do it all um you know

1:03:06

step by step each time it's kind of that

1:03:07

plan laid out um and then two uh I'll

1:03:10

say this not just about your position

1:03:11

about what about any position uh we have

1:03:13

to make sure we have these plans in

1:03:15

place to make sure that Legacy continues

1:03:17

because you hit the lottery today no

1:03:19

guarantee you'll be here tomorrow and if

1:03:21

all the knowledge leaves with you then

1:03:22

it doesn't do us any good so

1:03:26

but please don't take it wrong I do

1:03:27

appreciate the work any other questions

1:03:30

or

1:03:32

comments seeing none thank you all for

1:03:34

your presentation tonight uh looks like

1:03:37

that covered the Bureau of building and

1:03:39

housing and the Bureau of business and

1:03:41

resource

1:03:47

development next we will move on to the

1:03:49

Bureau of communications

1:04:19

good

1:04:20

evening hello city council um I'd like

1:04:23

to introduce myself I am Michelle Moyer

1:04:25

I am the new director of communications

1:04:28

I'm seven days old today so go easy on

1:04:31

me um Melissa has has um

1:04:36

graciously is graciously going to give

1:04:38

the report obviously I did not um have

1:04:40

the data but I definitely wanted to

1:04:42

introduce myself and say hello to all of

1:04:50

you good afternoon president B City

1:04:52

Council Members it is an honor for me to

1:04:54

be here and present the communication

1:04:57

buget the department overview the Bure

1:05:00

of communications is responsible for

1:05:01

internal and external Communications and

1:05:03

marketing for government operations of

1:05:05

the city of haris is responsible for

1:05:08

graphic photo video audio and

1:05:10

Information Services like City 311

1:05:13

system and eron have Des the bureau

1:05:16

organized news conference Issues new

1:05:18

releases News letters and media

1:05:20

advisories as well as online and social

1:05:23

media

1:05:23

Communications the buau communic ation

1:05:26

also manage media relations and

1:05:27

multilingual services such as document

1:05:29

translations and in-house

1:05:31

interpretations organized informational

1:05:33

events and campaigns manage the wbg

1:05:37

channel 20 the government access to

1:05:39

cable television channels and stations

1:05:42

and keep the city official website up to

1:05:46

date departmental

1:05:49

diversity raise and ethnicity two white

1:05:52

females one white male one black male

1:05:55

two iic Latino females bilingual two

1:05:58

Spanish speakers multilingual one

1:06:00

intermediate French and no in Chinese

1:06:04

speaking significant budget change there

1:06:07

are no vacancies there are no arpa

1:06:10

projects there are no new prisions there

1:06:13

are no rol with salary increases

1:06:14

exceeding the

1:06:17

2% year to-day budgets question does the

1:06:20

current budget proposal for 2025 align

1:06:23

with the YTD spending to do incur thus

1:06:26

far in

1:06:28

2024 yes our budget is based on trends

1:06:31

that are consistent however our Contra

1:06:33

services and supplies accounts have a

1:06:35

slightly increased for

1:06:38

2025 year to-day budget are there any

1:06:42

instances where current YTD spending in

1:06:45

2024 significantly see the proposed

1:06:47

budgeted line items for 20125 no there

1:06:50

are no current lines or spending for

1:06:52

2024 that significantly exceed the

1:06:55

proposed budget nevertheless we will be

1:06:57

increasing our office equipment line for

1:07:00

2024 approved amount of $6,000 to

1:07:04

$15,000 W hbg Channel 20 needs upgrade

1:07:07

to Studio cameras and Studio lighting to

1:07:10

LED features and we can now assume conas

1:07:13

is going to address this in the new

1:07:15

franch franchise

1:07:18

agreement 2024 depart departmental

1:07:22

highlights our primary cing 202 before

1:07:25

has been the redesign of harp.gov which

1:07:28

will be launching next year we have

1:07:31

continued to work towards a new

1:07:32

franchise AG gr agreement with concast

1:07:35

the law Bureau is leading these efforts

1:07:37

Channel 20 has produced 120 videos and

1:07:40

70 live streaming including planning

1:07:44

meetings City Council meetings press

1:07:46

conference and the holiday parade

1:07:48

Channel 20 has made updates to our

1:07:50

studio space including temporary walls

1:07:54

that they are building collaboration

1:07:56

with a facilities Department which give

1:07:58

a stud a new modern look we led a second

1:08:01

conversational Spanish class in June

1:08:03

with two different schedules morning and

1:08:05

evening the Spanish series was launched

1:08:08

in July to provide easy access to

1:08:10

important permits and business licenses

1:08:13

translated 25 documents into Spanish for

1:08:15

the C Bureau Health office events and

1:08:17

City engineering and provide

1:08:19

interpretations of an average of 100

1:08:21

cases per month through the city

1:08:23

government

1:08:29

this is the One-Stop shop look for our

1:08:31

new

1:08:34

website next

1:08:37

one this is some of the our content that

1:08:40

we have in Channel 20 uh what is the

1:08:42

world harbard is the toll show we had

1:08:44

Studio sessions that's showcasing

1:08:46

performers and we have employee

1:08:49

Spotlight at 10

1:08:51

questions we also had a help in harrisb

1:08:54

a mental health discussion and we had a

1:08:56

har Min that it was on the summer that

1:08:58

is a little um a little tips for diet

1:09:02

and you know to get a summer apps

1:09:05

Harting forat it was a Spanish series

1:09:08

that we had residents to get connected

1:09:10

with permits and easy access

1:09:18

linkes okay so that was a different

1:09:21

slide yes so we have Gary jilan that is

1:09:24

a building brid that was one of our

1:09:27

videos that it was more popular in in

1:09:29

Channel 20 we had a holiday p8 uh we had

1:09:33

a conversation at par flyer and we also

1:09:36

participate this year in the

1:09:37

Multicultural table at the capona

1:09:43

event 2025 goals resume what is the work

1:09:47

har this will be presented by our new

1:09:49

director of communication who is excited

1:09:51

to come out with a new content that

1:09:53

channel 20 is working to increase

1:09:55

audience subscribers and followers on

1:09:57

all social media channels our deputy

1:09:59

director of communications is currently

1:10:01

working on a pilot word side Spanish

1:10:03

class for the Cod departments we also

1:10:06

currently learning to utilize a WhatsApp

1:10:08

business instant messenging to offer to

1:10:10

our Spanish speaking residents who need

1:10:12

qu information access using the 311

1:10:17

system performance

1:10:19

metrics are there any example of

1:10:22

specific metrics benchmarks departments

1:10:24

used to evaluate that ESS of their go in

1:10:27

2025 annual performance review We

1:10:29

generate monthly reports based on

1:10:31

subscribers visitor look and program

1:10:35

content in Channel 20 and YouTube we

1:10:39

have 1,400 subscribers and we can see

1:10:41

the trend that how many views do we have

1:10:43

we had an average of 55,000 views in the

1:10:47

video we had also Facebook um that we

1:10:51

had 251 21,000 subscribers and average

1:10:55

of abuse is

1:10:59

164,000 we had the X X we have 6,120

1:11:04

followers we have Instagram with

1:11:07

3704 followers we have Mach that is our

1:11:10

newsletter 3, 279 subscribers more than

1:11:13

361 ticket resing the 311 he Des Martin

1:11:18

Luther King visit or L 68 people on

1:11:21

average week

1:11:25

question what is the purpose of the

1:11:28

$10,000 allocated for miscellaneous

1:11:30

Contract Services archive social is a

1:11:33

social media cing Cloud that tracks

1:11:35

record requests and compliance it is a

1:11:38

beneficial insurance policy in case the

1:11:40

city ever has his social media subjected

1:11:43

to the right to no loow this service

1:11:45

cost

1:11:46

$7,500 the rest that is 2,500 will be

1:11:49

covering 311 system and Verizon

1:11:52

bills thank you so much

1:11:55

thank you very much for your

1:11:56

presentation I'm going to open up to

1:11:58

questions I'm going to start to my right

1:12:00

with councilwoman Daniels this is budget

1:12:04

related but um for my edification when

1:12:06

does the comp guas franchise agreement

1:12:08

needs when does it need to be

1:12:10

renewed that was that is f in 2020 and

1:12:13

we are right now working with a law

1:12:15

Bureau that maybe that could provide you

1:12:17

a very update yeah it is it's it is

1:12:20

expired but they just continue to make

1:12:22

the payments under the agreement um it's

1:12:25

one of the things that has been back

1:12:26

burner uh just because of volume of

1:12:28

other things because it's an

1:12:30

ongoing the relationship doesn't change

1:12:33

at all like other contracts that end so

1:12:36

they they've had various people assigned

1:12:38

that have come and gone we've had

1:12:40

various people assigned that if come and

1:12:41

gone there's just been a lot of stops

1:12:43

and starts along the way and the last

1:12:45

attorney who worked on it for us uh

1:12:47

departed here several months ago and he

1:12:50

had reopened the negotiations with them

1:12:53

uh with their with their new person uh

1:12:55

he had two different people he

1:12:56

negotiated with and that's really the

1:12:58

last thing that's happened so it just

1:13:00

has to be put back on the table to be

1:13:03

finalized that's it for

1:13:05

me thank you councilwoman Davis thank

1:13:08

you vice president green good evening

1:13:10

and thank you for your presentation I

1:13:12

don't have any

1:13:13

questions thank you president Bowers um

1:13:17

I I have I think two questions um the

1:13:22

first is related to so during the time

1:13:26

when the former communications director

1:13:28

left and seven days ago when you arrived

1:13:33

who was

1:13:35

managing um The

1:13:39

Bureau me you were yes okay and there

1:13:43

was nobody else that you had to report

1:13:46

to I was reporting director to the mayor

1:13:49

okay just want to clarify that thank

1:13:52

you uh and then

1:13:56

my other question is related to press

1:14:00

releases I know that are they all housed

1:14:03

on the website or is there somewhere

1:14:07

else the members of the public and

1:14:09

residents can view press

1:14:11

releases we do publish uh Pro releases

1:14:14

on the website mainly we also s a media

1:14:17

contact that we send email and M email

1:14:20

as well some depends so when for example

1:14:22

it's important meetings that we we are

1:14:25

in the in the city we also posted on

1:14:28

Facebook

1:14:29

and um X well oh okay I didn't know they

1:14:32

were posted on social media I was

1:14:34

looking for one I think that was sent

1:14:36

out either yesterday or today and I

1:14:38

couldn't find it usually meetings we

1:14:41

posted on the social media mediums okay

1:14:45

thank

1:14:47

you thank you councilwoman Ross a good

1:14:51

evening welcome to you both um and

1:14:53

welcome new to the city

1:14:55

uh uh thank you for being here tonight I

1:14:57

don't have any questions just look

1:14:59

forward to I guess you coming in front

1:15:00

of us for communications one time just

1:15:03

to let us know what your vision is what

1:15:05

your plan is for the city and what's

1:15:06

what goals you have in the

1:15:07

Communications Department I I would love

1:15:10

to do that um I did I didn't know if you

1:15:12

would want it or not I did bring my my

1:15:14

resume um and the job description and um

1:15:18

I do also I don't I don't have copies of

1:15:20

it but I do have a 30 60 90day vision

1:15:24

for the communication Department oh yeah

1:15:26

that would be great um I'm sure someone

1:15:28

will contact you about how you can um

1:15:31

like when we could hear that from you or

1:15:33

you would send it to us because I know

1:15:35

tonight is most mainly about budgeting

1:15:37

which I mean your goals does go into

1:15:40

that but I look forward to hearing um

1:15:42

you know the plans you have for the city

1:15:45

you're

1:15:46

welcome thank you council member

1:15:50

Rodriguez thank you m Madam vice

1:15:52

president um thank you for joining us uh

1:15:56

I look forward to following um you know

1:15:59

work you be doing in Communications I

1:16:00

looked you up a bit and I appreciate the

1:16:02

work you've done in recovery um just

1:16:06

look forward to hearing more plans from

1:16:07

the Department of communications and um

1:16:09

that's all I had as far as my sentiments

1:16:11

no further questions thank

1:16:12

you thank you very much councilman Jones

1:16:15

thank you no questions thank you very

1:16:18

much uh I don't have any questions for

1:16:19

you myself uh thank you for introducing

1:16:22

yourself to us thank you for the work

1:16:23

that you've done stepping into those

1:16:25

shoes as it was vacant so we appreciate

1:16:27

that uh you know going above and beyond

1:16:29

uh and for your presentation tonight

1:16:31

thank

1:16:35

you next we will be speaking to the

1:16:37

Bureau of Licensing Taxation and cental

1:16:40

support

1:17:03

yes very nice

1:17:30

excuse me sir supposed to give

1:17:49

give know the name

1:18:09

good evening whenever you're ready

1:18:10

please feel free to introduce yourself

1:18:12

give us an overview of your department

1:18:13

and then your presentation then we'll

1:18:15

open up for questions uh yes good

1:18:16

evening city council Mike Hughes tax

1:18:19

administrator and with me I have Janelle

1:18:22

Ward the deputy tax administrator

1:18:26

uh we'll start off with a department

1:18:27

overview um briefly describe what your

1:18:30

department does the Bureau of Licensing

1:18:33

Taxation and Central support builds and

1:18:36

collects Mercantile business privilege

1:18:39

parking and amusement taxes as well as

1:18:41

as various license fees for the city and

1:18:44

the Harrisburg School District uh this

1:18:47

unit also administers the dog licensing

1:18:49

program and manages all activities

1:18:52

associated with the city's burglar and

1:18:53

fire alarm program

1:18:56

a civil collection program is in place

1:18:59

to collect all delinquent

1:19:01

taxes uh the bureau also includes the

1:19:04

duplication Center which is responsible

1:19:07

for the hand handling of the Daily Mail

1:19:10

incoming and outgoing uh specialty

1:19:12

mailing such as trash bills and property

1:19:15

taxes processing print jobs for All City

1:19:19

departments and the distribution of

1:19:21

office

1:19:23

supplies um our mission statement the

1:19:27

mission of the tax enforcement office is

1:19:29

to administer the city of harrisburg's

1:19:31

local act 511 tax and Licensing programs

1:19:35

fairly efficiently and accurately while

1:19:38

providing top quality service by helping

1:19:41

taxpayers understand and meet their tax

1:19:44

responsibilities we also strive to

1:19:46

enforce the law by precisely and rapidly

1:19:49

collecting current and delinquent tax

1:19:52

revenue and license fees

1:19:54

uh in addition I just wanted to add uh

1:19:57

we also collect revenue for uh the

1:20:00

police department which is actually dog

1:20:03

license and false alarms along with the

1:20:05

fire false

1:20:06

alarms um we also collect Health license

1:20:09

and Fire Prevention fees for the co

1:20:12

Department uh and Zoning fees for new

1:20:15

city-based

1:20:17

businesses uh the significant budget

1:20:20

changes really we just have one uh we

1:20:23

were decreasing our filing fees by

1:20:28

$30,000 uh the explanation um we had

1:20:31

anticipated more court filings at both

1:20:33

the county and mdj levels and that

1:20:36

didn't occur this past year there's also

1:20:39

was some shifting of our paralal time uh

1:20:42

due to increased landlord related

1:20:45

activity uh along with additional delays

1:20:47

in the

1:20:48

service um from the court both VIA mail

1:20:52

and or sheriff or constable uh there was

1:20:55

also increased turnover at the uh local

1:20:58

mdj office that we use in the Staffing

1:21:01

and that kind of slowed uh down the

1:21:02

whole process for us in addition I don't

1:21:05

have it there I'm sorry but there was

1:21:07

also you know the vacant collections

1:21:09

attorney and the law be that we were

1:21:11

using earlier in the year um she got

1:21:14

promoted so we lost that that person at

1:21:16

that point in time um but overall our

1:21:19

budget is actually down from from last

1:21:21

year

1:21:23

so on to departmental diversity we have

1:21:27

six females and one male uh two black

1:21:30

and brown and five white our age range

1:21:34

is from 28 to 64 we have one bilingual

1:21:38

employee also add I've been uh a city

1:21:41

resident for over 30

1:21:43

years and um also that the range uh of

1:21:46

employment of our employees ranges from

1:21:48

two years to 33

1:21:51

years we do not have any vacancy in our

1:21:55

department uh grants and special

1:21:58

projects isn't applicable uh neither is

1:22:01

the arpa

1:22:02

projects uh or no new positions

1:22:06

okay uh year-to dat budgets uh the

1:22:10

current budget proposal for 25 does

1:22:11

align with the Year date spending totals

1:22:14

incurred thus far in 24 yes uh are there

1:22:17

any instances where current year-to-date

1:22:20

spending uh in 24 significantly exceeds

1:22:24

the proposed budget line items for 25

1:22:27

no uh on to roles exceeding 2% um none

1:22:31

of our management positions exceeded a

1:22:33

2%

1:22:34

increase U we completed the evaluation

1:22:39

process want two departmental

1:22:42

highlights uh our 2024 goals and

1:22:45

progress that was made um first goal was

1:22:49

to continue to increase Revenue over the

1:22:51

prior years through active

1:22:53

Collections and when we get to the end

1:22:55

we will show initial slides of our

1:22:57

Revenue to address this so uh second was

1:23:00

to continue to implement the Tyler mun

1:23:02

system in hopes of providing more

1:23:05

efficient service and additional payment

1:23:07

options for

1:23:08

taxpayers um as Steve from it spoke you

1:23:12

know we're still in the process of

1:23:14

implementing that um he's forecasting

1:23:17

the second quarter of of next year for

1:23:20

our

1:23:21

section um also under there we we had to

1:23:25

continue to direct customers to use the

1:23:28

currently available online value pay

1:23:30

system and we have noticed in the daily

1:23:33

reports that more and more people are

1:23:34

taking advantage of that option for

1:23:37

license renewals uh and we had also

1:23:41

added uh basically advertisement on the

1:23:44

back of our license renewals on how to

1:23:46

use the online payment system so that

1:23:49

seems to be working better so uh

1:23:52

additionally we wanted to Contin

1:23:54

continue to improve customer service uh

1:23:56

to accommodate taxpayers uh with our

1:23:59

office hours uh which are 8 to 4:30

1:24:03

which exceed the building hours uh while

1:24:05

also timely answering phone calls emails

1:24:08

and sending out uh written

1:24:11

correspondents um you know taxpayers

1:24:14

regularly do provide us with feedback U

1:24:18

whether it's in person or email and in

1:24:20

regard to the options that we have

1:24:21

available uh and how timely we are with

1:24:24

our

1:24:26

responses um unfortunately you know we

1:24:28

do get complaints um uh when people show

1:24:32

up in person and it's after 2:30 a

1:24:34

particular day and we can't accept cash

1:24:37

or credit and we can't send them to

1:24:40

treasury um next we wanted to finalize

1:24:44

the ongoing transition of scanning all

1:24:46

of our internal

1:24:47

documents and clean up the old accounts

1:24:51

um we made a large dent in that but that

1:24:53

is still continuing we have quite a

1:24:55

large number of uh old documents that

1:24:58

we're catching up on the scanning

1:25:00

with uh we would also like to see some

1:25:03

of our higher dollar uh civil collection

1:25:06

cases uh move forward uh into the county

1:25:09

court um some progress has been made in

1:25:12

2024 uh however this is still

1:25:16

ongoing um as for our goals in uh

1:25:20

2025 want to continue to promote

1:25:23

voluntary tax compliance plans through

1:25:24

education communication and

1:25:27

Service uh we also want to continue to

1:25:30

transform the customer service

1:25:32

experience and modern modernize the it

1:25:35

systems uh to improve and enhance Tax

1:25:38

Administration and collection two of

1:25:40

those kind of go hand inand together and

1:25:42

both will be linked uh once we get the

1:25:44

new munus system platform uh up and

1:25:49

operating um we also want to continually

1:25:51

improve collection efforts and revenue

1:25:53

for the city

1:25:57

uh for performance

1:25:58

metrics um we'll show you this in our

1:26:01

upcoming Revenue slides our key

1:26:04

performance indicators include tracking

1:26:06

collections Revenue year-over-year along

1:26:09

with meeting and or exceeding the

1:26:10

budgeted Revenue

1:26:12

benchmarks uh while it's harder to

1:26:14

measure our customer service I do stay a

1:26:16

breast of on the positive and any

1:26:19

negative comments customers may have in

1:26:21

regards to our service hours ease of

1:26:24

making payments and any other General

1:26:27

comments that are mentioned when we have

1:26:29

interactions with

1:26:32

customers we did not have any additional

1:26:36

questions and now we'll move on to uh

1:26:39

our Revenue

1:26:41

slide all right uh the first slide um it

1:26:45

shows our our larger Revenue items that

1:26:48

we collect um I'll direct you to the

1:26:53

bottom line of the overall revenue of

1:26:56

these items if you see in

1:26:59

2020 uh we brought in 6.9 million of

1:27:02

these combined items and it's been a

1:27:04

Contin

1:27:06

continual increase all way up through

1:27:09

2023 to

1:27:12

7.8 uh and we're also at 7.8 for 2024

1:27:15

however we still have the month of

1:27:17

December and uh forecasting we should

1:27:20

hit 8 million uh by the end of this

1:27:23

month um but in addition to that we with

1:27:27

our other Revenue that we collect we

1:27:29

annually bring in over $10 million in in

1:27:32

total with all our license items and and

1:27:35

all the other things we collect

1:27:38

on all right so we're going to go into

1:27:40

the specifics of the individual uh taxes

1:27:44

uh the mertile tax you can see here back

1:27:46

in 2020 we started at 2.9 Million uh and

1:27:50

it rose up to

1:27:52

3.2 uh in 2020

1:27:55

2 uh and then it leveled off in 23 and

1:28:00

24 is a little below that number at the

1:28:04

moment

1:28:06

um and I'm going to speak about this at

1:28:08

the end of the presentation on why those

1:28:12

numbers are what they are we were

1:28:15

expecting them to be higher and I'll

1:28:18

talk about why they probably are so but

1:28:21

if we move on to the next slide um this

1:28:23

was our prior year delinquent

1:28:26

taxes um coming out of the pandemic you

1:28:30

know that spiked um because we had all

1:28:33

that extra time to devote to this

1:28:35

without customers coming in um so that

1:28:38

number really spiked and hit you know

1:28:40

half a million dollars uh and then it

1:28:43

went back down and it since leveled out

1:28:46

and and kept consistent that way so U

1:28:50

similar the the penalty also kind of

1:28:52

spiked coming out of the p pandemic on

1:28:55

that collection went back down and now

1:28:58

has started an upward Trend uh since

1:29:02

then uh interest is the same spiking

1:29:06

after the pandemic and then dropping

1:29:08

back down uh and remaining consistent

1:29:12

since

1:29:13

so now as far as Amusement

1:29:16

tax U we hit an all-time low during the

1:29:19

pandemic um because there was no public

1:29:21

events happening um so since the

1:29:24

pandemic it's uh continued to rise

1:29:27

strongly uh and in fact in 2024 we had

1:29:30

an alltime record in the history of the

1:29:32

amusement tax uh we're at

1:29:35

421,000

1:29:37

so as far as the parking

1:29:41

tax you know during the pandemic this

1:29:43

started dipping

1:29:45

down uh and then started to get a slow

1:29:49

recovery uh in 2022 some slow increments

1:29:53

into 23

1:29:54

three and um we're in the position right

1:29:57

now in

1:29:59

2024 um factoring in what I anticipate

1:30:02

through December we should be up to 3.9

1:30:05

Million by year end of 2024 so it will

1:30:09

continue to show that

1:30:11

increase however we still haven't gotten

1:30:15

back to where we were in

1:30:17

2019 uh pre pandemic we were at about

1:30:21

4.2 million back in 2019 you don't see

1:30:24

it on the slide but that's where we were

1:30:27

um you know attribute a lot of this to

1:30:29

the the remote working and the impact

1:30:31

that is had on the on the

1:30:35

parking the next slide shows uh the

1:30:37

revenue this year that we've collected

1:30:39

for the school district uh both in

1:30:41

mertile and amusement taxes and you're

1:30:44

familiar with that we just had the

1:30:45

contract last week

1:30:47

so uh we have additional um

1:30:50

miscellaneous

1:30:51

statistics show our auditing collections

1:30:54

for the current year uh over 800,000

1:30:57

which our our Deputy tax administrator

1:30:59

collected through audits our two pargal

1:31:03

through civil collections they attended

1:31:05

31 hearings at the mdj level and they

1:31:08

collected over

1:31:10

500,000 uh in taxes uh from from those

1:31:14

cases uh year to date we've also issued

1:31:17

456 mertile licenses 141 landlord

1:31:21

licenses and 178

1:31:24

uh vendor

1:31:27

licenses next slide we have some

1:31:29

statistics from our duplication

1:31:32

Center uh there was over 360,000 copies

1:31:37

that were run in the duplication Center

1:31:39

in

1:31:40

2024 uh we had over

1:31:43

35,000 uh pieces of specialty mail that

1:31:46

went out

1:31:49

41,5 72 trash bills that went out year

1:31:52

to date and there was

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1:32:24

parking tax is on a slow slope

1:32:27

upward I've also witnessed our team take

1:32:30

more initiative in assisting training

1:32:32

and collaborating with other departments

1:32:35

to more comprehensively address issues

1:32:37

that we come across I'm proud of our

1:32:40

team and how they have persevered

1:32:41

through adversity during the past two

1:32:44

years while our overall total revenue

1:32:47

collection has increased we have shown

1:32:49

some dips or stagnant numbers pertaining

1:32:51

to the mertile tax graphs as you

1:32:54

saw the numbers for 23 and 24 have been

1:32:58

very difficult to piece together since

1:33:01

the treasury has not entered and

1:33:04

allocated these payments to the proper

1:33:06

individual tax accounts or to the proper

1:33:09

line items which include current year

1:33:12

tax prior year Delinquent Tax interest

1:33:15

and penalty instead these monies were

1:33:18

segregated to a holding

1:33:20

account as a result we were forced to

1:33:23

create our own tracking mechanism for

1:33:25

tax returns and payments received while

1:33:28

making over 10,000 detailed payment

1:33:31

entries before sending the tax returns

1:33:33

and payments down the treasury for

1:33:36

deposit any tax returns and payments

1:33:39

that were made directly to treasury via

1:33:40

the Dropbox or the mail during this time

1:33:42

were not forward to our office thus the

1:33:45

small percentage of revenue for 23 and

1:33:47

24 is unaccounted for in our

1:33:50

numbers the additional time that our

1:33:52

Deputy had spend coding all this Revenue

1:33:57

significantly impacted the time that we

1:33:59

should have devoted to revenue and

1:34:01

license generating

1:34:03

activities we were notified by the

1:34:05

treasurer at the end of July 2024 that

1:34:08

he has now instructed his staff to start

1:34:10

entering payments properly as they did

1:34:12

prior to

1:34:15

2023 uh in conclusion I'd like to thank

1:34:17

my team which includes candy Lexi

1:34:20

Carrera Tyra Brenda and most importantly

1:34:24

my Deputy Janelle they continue to find

1:34:27

ways to improve customer service

1:34:29

increase Revenue collection streamline

1:34:32

processes train and assist other

1:34:34

departments and work towards the greater

1:34:36

good of city

1:34:38

government it's important to note that

1:34:40

the majority of the tax money that we do

1:34:42

collect is not born by City

1:34:44

residents I'll I'll take any

1:34:48

questions thank you very much um and as

1:34:51

always thank you very much for the

1:34:52

thorough presentation uh and all the

1:34:54

information you provide to us uh I'm

1:34:56

going to open up the questions I'll

1:34:58

start to my right here with a

1:34:59

councilwoman

1:35:01

Daniels councilwoman Davis thank you

1:35:04

vice president green thank you for being

1:35:06

here director of bordner and U Miss

1:35:11

Ward I'm sorry Mr Hughes director Hughes

1:35:14

I wrote director Hughes down and I said

1:35:16

something

1:35:17

else um no I just wanted to thank you

1:35:20

for your presentation and thank you for

1:35:22

continuing to look forward for ways to

1:35:25

improve customer service and um ways

1:35:29

that our citizens can pay their taxes

1:35:32

but otherwise it was a great um

1:35:35

presentation so thank

1:35:37

you thank you president

1:35:40

Bowers um I don't have any questions

1:35:43

again thank you for our uh aesthetically

1:35:46

pleasing

1:35:47

presentation in a folder annually we

1:35:50

look forward to it so thank you for that

1:35:52

and thank you for the information

1:35:54

regarding Treasury and the small

1:35:57

percentage of Revenue that's missing so

1:35:59

thank you for that that caveat there I

1:36:02

don't have any other questions thank you

1:36:04

councilwoman Ross good evening to you

1:36:06

both thank you for being here I don't

1:36:08

have any questions thank you for your

1:36:09

thorough

1:36:11

presentation councilman

1:36:13

Rodriguez no

1:36:17

questions thank you councilman

1:36:19

Jones I guess I'll break the no no

1:36:22

questions

1:36:25

all right um I don't have any questions

1:36:28

either once again thank you for your

1:36:29

presentation uh thank you for your

1:36:31

candid honesty uh about um the different

1:36:34

things going on in the building

1:36:35

especially with the treasury's office uh

1:36:37

I will say the the half the times that

1:36:39

I've interacted with your office uh it's

1:36:41

been nothing but a pleasure uh I hear

1:36:43

that from residents all the time as well

1:36:45

um and so hopefully we can find a way uh

1:36:48

to alleviate some of the things with the

1:36:50

Treasury Office uh to just make things

1:36:52

more convenient for the residents

1:36:53

makeing sure that they're able to make

1:36:55

any and all payments without being

1:36:57

inconvenienced of having to get off

1:36:58

early or figure out a different way to

1:37:00

get in here so thank you very much

1:37:02

you're

1:37:08

wel all right I think that wraps up most

1:37:11

of our bureaus here and will take us

1:37:13

down to the general expenses and

1:37:15

transfers and then the other

1:37:22

funds good job

1:37:53

good evening whenever you're ready you

1:37:54

can begin your presentation okay uh very

1:37:57

good uh good evening city council

1:37:59

members uh thank you president Bowers

1:38:01

and vice president green uh Brian

1:38:04

McCutchen accounting manager and I'm I'm

1:38:07

calling upon Mr trusdale to be my

1:38:09

wingman uh for the

1:38:11

PowerPoint um and this is tough I I have

1:38:14

to follow Mike and Janelle's

1:38:15

presentation you know and might mine is

1:38:18

not exactly up up to their standard but

1:38:21

um uh this is an overview it's it's 133

1:38:25

14 slides uh the the first piece is

1:38:29

General expenses and this is within the

1:38:31

general fund and uh the what this fund

1:38:36

or this budget unit really represents um

1:38:40

it's not it's not

1:38:42

department-based uh it's sort of a

1:38:44

landing uh zone for expenses that are

1:38:47

not really allocated specifically to

1:38:49

individual departments uh our medical

1:38:52

claims are included Ed here workers comp

1:38:55

claims unemployment claims uh Insurance

1:38:59

related items including uh premiums and

1:39:02

deductible amounts that the city has to

1:39:04

pay um and there's also some uh special

1:39:08

uh dispersements that relate to uh uh

1:39:12

close entities to the city um so again

1:39:16

the the Personnel piece or uh the major

1:39:19

object account grouping of a Personnel

1:39:21

includes 13 million in medical and I

1:39:24

know you're familiar with our medical

1:39:25

claims that the city has experienced

1:39:27

this year we're we're anticipating a

1:39:29

better year next year but this is still

1:39:31

a significant increase over uh the 2024

1:39:34

proposed budget also the um uh the the

1:39:40

the MMO for the non-uniform pension plan

1:39:42

as I mentioned earlier that that is

1:39:44

increased and this is captured um within

1:39:48

uh the general fund uh or the general

1:39:51

expenses budget unit um moving down to

1:39:54

services and and these are major items

1:39:56

that represent that particular uh

1:39:59

account grouping uh stoploss coverage

1:40:02

which is an insurance uh items against

1:40:06

occurring medical claims uh 500,000 and

1:40:10

250,000 and these are legal uh liability

1:40:13

related when it comes to handling uh

1:40:16

what the city experiences and claims and

1:40:18

related

1:40:19

expenses and um the the property

1:40:22

insurance I I described that uh

1:40:25

previously about it has gone down but

1:40:27

it's still a significant number and that

1:40:29

particular number actually covers three

1:40:31

policies property crime and and

1:40:34

cyber the last item is the other

1:40:38

category which relates to as as as the

1:40:41

items are described there the support of

1:40:42

funding for uh operations for the

1:40:45

Redevelopment Authority uh the

1:40:48

continuation of the free parking

1:40:50

downtown parking program for next year

1:40:52

and then also the city has continued to

1:40:55

provide local support to uh the

1:40:58

Transportation

1:40:59

Authority uh which is cat or Capital

1:41:02

Area

1:41:04

Transit uh the next slide is transfers

1:41:08

again this is general fund still three

1:41:11

major uh full full transfers here uh The

1:41:15

Debt Service fund uh the city has a

1:41:18

required minimum payment it makes to the

1:41:21

to those particular bonds

1:41:23

you you may have heard them referred to

1:41:25

as the Verizon tower bonds or the

1:41:27

Commonwealth Tower

1:41:28

bonds um next is the Harrisburg Senators

1:41:32

fund which is coming to a completion

1:41:35

early next year uh that's the ongoing uh

1:41:38

Stadium upgrade project and the general

1:41:40

fund has been funding

1:41:42

that and there's also an expected

1:41:44

reimbursement to occur uh later next

1:41:47

year uh through an arap arap Grant

1:41:51

fund uh the 5 100,000 is new uh for 2025

1:41:56

and this is the funding to start up uh a

1:41:59

deposit uh for the uh the fire truck

1:42:02

apparatus that the fire Bureau has in

1:42:04

mind for next

1:42:07

year um so that completes the the last

1:42:10

two significant budget units for the

1:42:12

general fund um moving on to uh next

1:42:16

slide please thank you Jared special

1:42:18

Revenue funds there's two the the state

1:42:21

liquid fuels fund and and this is uh

1:42:25

Public Works has oversight over this

1:42:26

specifically

1:42:27

engineering um the total budget of 2.6

1:42:30

million for next year with a heavier

1:42:33

focus on streets and Roads projects

1:42:36

including uh what's in mind for uh Barry

1:42:39

Hill Street and Sycamore Street uh this

1:42:43

fund is funded through through com the

1:42:45

Commonwealth through pendy there's an

1:42:46

estimated allocation that the the city

1:42:49

receives uh in the fall of every year

1:42:51

for the upcoming new year

1:42:54

uh the next fund I believe we touched

1:42:56

upon this last night uh with with Parks

1:42:59

and Rec uh their input the host fee fund

1:43:03

um and this is it's it's overseen by

1:43:06

that department but there's an increase

1:43:08

in the budget for 2025 which is really

1:43:12

attributed to the the

1:43:14

$500,000 that has been uh proposed for

1:43:17

allocation to the Broad Street Market uh

1:43:19

restoration

1:43:20

project um this fund is uh funded

1:43:24

through uh the quarterly amounts the

1:43:26

city receives of the ACT 101 uh fee and

1:43:30

that that results every quarter from the

1:43:32

resulting uh disposed refu refu

1:43:36

tonnage uh Debt Service fund um this is

1:43:40

a governmental fund and quite simply

1:43:43

it's fed by the general fund funding so

1:43:45

we can so the city can pay its related

1:43:48

uh Debt Service um and that that relates

1:43:52

again down to the the second half of the

1:43:55

slide which is the 1.25 million as I

1:43:57

mentioned the Verizon tower bonds what's

1:44:00

up above is actually funded by the

1:44:02

liquid fuels fund uh it relates to a

1:44:06

infrastructure bank loan which occurred

1:44:09

it was a 10-year loan and the the paving

1:44:12

project was the South Harrisburg Paving

1:44:14

project which which which happened

1:44:16

several years ago uh so we're getting

1:44:18

closer to the maturity on that

1:44:20

particular uh loan debt

1:44:25

uh next slide please uh a capital

1:44:27

projects fund uh another governmental

1:44:30

fund um expenditure of of six million uh

1:44:35

for

1:44:36

2025 majority of which is uh various

1:44:39

streets and Roads projects uh in in the

1:44:42

budget book on page 224 there's a

1:44:44

detailed breakdown that shows uh the

1:44:48

individual streets and Roads projects

1:44:50

there's

1:44:51

about uh 8 or nine of them and also

1:44:55

there's a funding column that shows uh

1:44:57

the related grants that are in play now

1:45:00

for 2025 there's no funding transfer for

1:45:03

the general fund uh because of the the

1:45:05

amount of Grant proceeds that we

1:45:07

anticipate coming in uh should be more

1:45:10

than enough to cover uh the intended

1:45:12

budget their projected budget of six

1:45:14

million for next

1:45:17

year um that includes oh sorry Jared

1:45:20

could you back up just and also not just

1:45:23

streets and Roads there is a a bridge

1:45:24

bundling program through the county uh

1:45:27

there's I believe about three or four

1:45:29

Bridge projects that they're uh they're

1:45:32

trying to um improve the condition of

1:45:35

those bridges okay thanks

1:45:38

jar uh the last

1:45:41

fund proper uh for and this is a

1:45:44

proprietary fund uh the Harrisburg

1:45:46

Senator fund and the numbers are large

1:45:49

but it relates to what uh Remains What

1:45:52

is coming to complete the stadium

1:45:54

project and uh the the reason it's 16

1:45:59

million it's it's it's 10 for the actual

1:46:02

uh construction cost or Improvement cost

1:46:06

uh but there's A6 million doll um

1:46:09

Capital program Grant award the racki

1:46:11

award and as you know the all along this

1:46:15

project has covered uh multiple Years

1:46:18

starting in 2023 the general fund has

1:46:21

advanced funding to get this project

1:46:22

project underway and and to where we are

1:46:24

right now so the uh anticipation would

1:46:28

be to receive the the rack PE Grant uh

1:46:31

later in the year and then the Senator's

1:46:32

fund can reimburse the general fund so

1:46:35

that's the the other $6 million

1:46:36

expenditure to to get the general fund

1:46:41

reimbursed

1:46:43

um vice president green if you want I

1:46:46

the the last seven slides relate to the

1:46:48

special funds do you want me to pause at

1:46:50

this point to have field any questions

1:46:52

on what I just discussed yes we can um

1:46:55

open up for questions I'll start to my

1:46:57

far left with councilman

1:46:59

Jones no questions at the moment

1:47:02

councilman

1:47:06

Rodriguez councilwoman

1:47:08

Ross no I good evening no I don't have

1:47:11

any questions at the moment it's very

1:47:13

detailed thank you president Bowers no

1:47:16

questions thank you councilwoman Davis

1:47:20

no questions thank you for your

1:47:21

presentation thank you councilwoman

1:47:25

Daniels thank you I don't have any

1:47:26

questions either all right um okay the

1:47:30

the last seven slides in in my

1:47:33

PowerPoint relate to the the the seven

1:47:35

special funds uh a little history here

1:47:38

um years and years ago under uh previous

1:47:41

mayor Reed administrations there were

1:47:44

funds or or project funds set up that

1:47:46

were classified as trust and agency uh

1:47:49

which really that that they really

1:47:51

weren't of that category because at the

1:47:53

end of every year they weren't

1:47:55

Standalone the the the the expenses and

1:47:58

revenue would always have to be returned

1:48:00

or reclassed back to the general fund

1:48:01

for our our audited audited financial

1:48:04

statements um so in

1:48:07

2015 and also back then those funds were

1:48:10

not subject to appropriation procedures

1:48:13

so uh coming along in 2015 under the U

1:48:17

the mayor papenfus

1:48:19

Administration um what we did was create

1:48:22

these new funds these and they're called

1:48:24

special funds they're not special

1:48:26

Revenue funds because they don't meet

1:48:27

the classification we still have to

1:48:30

include them in our general fund when it

1:48:32

comes to our audited financial

1:48:33

statements but at least they're on the

1:48:35

surface now and they're subject to uh

1:48:38

your your awareness uh budget wise and

1:48:41

and there's specific line items that

1:48:42

that represent revenue and expense for

1:48:44

each fund um so this first fund is the

1:48:47

blight fund blight remediation uh it's

1:48:51

of a codes nature

1:48:53

uh as far as the uh budget units that

1:48:56

are uh relate to it including uh Salvage

1:49:00

permit penalty and uh the Foreclosure

1:49:02

property registry uh the budget for 20

1:49:06

2025 is

1:49:08

144,000 that includes a $100,000

1:49:11

interfund transfer support to the

1:49:13

general fund and the rationale is it's

1:49:16

to uh be supportive or applied to

1:49:19

expenditures that uh relate to the the

1:49:21

Bureau of codes

1:49:23

Revenue sources are listed there uh

1:49:26

recycling Revenue uh from Demolition

1:49:29

mitigation fees uh building permit fees

1:49:33

and any realized Revenue that may occur

1:49:35

on foreclosure

1:49:39

property uh the next fund is uh more of

1:49:42

a public works uh nature uh a special

1:49:47

events project reimbursement fund and uh

1:49:50

the expense budget for next year is2

1:49:52

,000 there's just one budget unit that

1:49:54

that accommodates that uh this fund has

1:49:58

also interfund support for uh two of the

1:50:00

city's funds including the general fund

1:50:02

and the neighborhood services fund uh

1:50:05

specifically city services which is more

1:50:07

on the the the sanitation side of

1:50:09

neighborhood services so those two

1:50:11

transfers of 100K each make up the

1:50:14

budget for

1:50:16

2025 and uh primarily the revenue

1:50:19

sources which are listed there include

1:50:20

other recycling revenue and any any

1:50:23

Public Works generated

1:50:24

Revenue uh as as an example um for

1:50:29

Public Works in in the general fund this

1:50:31

would there's there's a range of budget

1:50:33

units in the general fund which is which

1:50:35

includes um traffic and Engineering uh

1:50:38

vehicle

1:50:40

maintenance um and also the um uh

1:50:45

special or U I'm sorry the facilities

1:50:47

and special projects budget unit

1:50:53

okay fire protection fund uh this is a

1:50:56

smaller budget uh mainly because it's

1:51:00

we're trying to utilize this as a

1:51:01

savings there's one budget unit within

1:51:05

it uh the sharp team it's a I think

1:51:07

that's for special hazardous assistance

1:51:10

and response uh program uh the fire

1:51:13

Bureau overlooks this uh the revenue

1:51:16

Source Revenue sources include those

1:51:19

particular items um fines and cost occur

1:51:23

U more frequently than than than the

1:51:25

other items um the general fund is

1:51:28

contributing the $500,000 to this fund

1:51:32

to again help build up a uh an

1:51:35

availability to fund the the purchase of

1:51:37

the the new fire truck

1:51:41

vehicle uh there's also the police

1:51:43

protection fund uh the budget is is

1:51:45

$600,000 for next year with uh three

1:51:48

budget units uh the federal forfeiture

1:51:52

which is really where the city when the

1:51:54

city's police work on uh cases in

1:51:58

involving uh Federal

1:52:00

Representatives uh the the results from

1:52:02

that can can achieve uh forfeiture type

1:52:05

Revenue that can benefit the

1:52:07

city

1:52:09

um the oh I'm I'm sorry Jared wasn't

1:52:13

wasn't quite quick enough

1:52:15

uh the $500,000 inter fund transfer is

1:52:18

another one in support of the general

1:52:20

fund and you know the logic being that

1:52:22

this will help support uh the police

1:52:25

bureau's expenditures for next year and

1:52:28

the revenue sources are listed there uh

1:52:31

one of the uh more significant items is

1:52:34

that act 120 uh reimbursement from from

1:52:37

the state police uh that that pertains

1:52:40

to when the city has uh new Cadets on

1:52:43

hand and they go to train their proper

1:52:46

training um at at hack uh there's a

1:52:50

eligible reimbursement to receive uh

1:52:52

that fund to um to be uh deposited

1:52:56

within this fund as as as the related

1:52:58

expense are are also in this

1:53:02

fund so that's police uh the Parks and

1:53:05

Recreation fund um this is separate than

1:53:10

what what's in the general fund which is

1:53:11

Parks Recreation and

1:53:13

enrichment but this is like an add-on

1:53:16

fund again there are three budget units

1:53:18

which relate to benefiting City Island

1:53:21

Reservoir Park and there's and other

1:53:22

events budget

1:53:24

unit this also includes interfund

1:53:26

transfer support to the general fund and

1:53:28

neighborhood services at

1:53:31

$125,000 each um general fund it would

1:53:35

be related to Parks wreck and enrichment

1:53:38

and specifically to the neighborhood

1:53:40

services fund this would be applicable

1:53:42

to the parks maintenance piece of of

1:53:44

Neighborhood

1:53:46

Services and the revenue the various

1:53:48

Revenue sources are listed there

1:53:49

including Park permit fees licenses

1:53:53

permits um and other uh program or or

1:53:56

supporting

1:54:00

contributions um small fund uh this one

1:54:03

the wh uh BG TV fund uh very small but

1:54:08

it's uh we're budgeting a $10,000

1:54:11

for uh the Communications Department

1:54:15

really oversees this and there there

1:54:17

will be some available budget for for

1:54:20

needs that would arise for next year

1:54:23

there's not amount there's really not a

1:54:24

significant amount of income as you can

1:54:26

see that relates to it it's it's

1:54:28

primarily sourced by the uh generated

1:54:30

interest

1:54:33

income uh okay the last slide is the

1:54:36

events fund and over

1:54:40

$516,000 for for next year's uh budget

1:54:44

and the revenue and sources include uh

1:54:48

again licenses and permits those are

1:54:50

vendor fees that when vendors show up to

1:54:52

to to City events that the city host

1:54:55

they have to pay those

1:54:56

fees um also there's sponsor and uh

1:55:00

other contributions that support uh the

1:55:03

various events that take place through

1:55:05

the year uh this year there is grant

1:55:09

funding uh budgeted um from the state uh

1:55:13

to support a capital outlay for the

1:55:16

Riverfront Park

1:55:20

pavilion and that's the last slide

1:55:24

thank you very much I'm going to open it

1:55:26

to my colleagues for questions I will

1:55:28

start to my right this time with

1:55:29

councilwoman Daniels no questions

1:55:32

councilwoman Davis no questions

1:55:34

president Bowers I don't have any

1:55:36

questions thank you councilwoman

1:55:39

Ross thank you I don't have any

1:55:41

questions I'm glad to see a Riverfront

1:55:43

uh Park pavilion I think that's used a

1:55:46

lot for um concerts right the one right

1:55:48

by the hospital in that area are you

1:55:51

mean I'm sorry

1:55:53

oh the one they going to build right oh

1:55:56

that's at the Civic Center that's the

1:55:58

smaller one at the Civic Center and it's

1:56:00

it's not it's not mobile it's to stay

1:56:02

put and and yes no I I totally meant

1:56:05

that it's just like get the two mixed up

1:56:07

I know one I think Harrisburg University

1:56:09

uses a lot but it's not a pavilion they

1:56:11

build a stage oh okay so I but I forgot

1:56:15

yes by the Civic Center to hold more

1:56:17

like entertainment events for weddings

1:56:19

and other things I I appreciate your

1:56:21

comment I I should mention credit should

1:56:23

go to our our events uh manager Court

1:56:26

Nate Cameron she's involved with uh the

1:56:29

budget when it comes to this particular

1:56:31

fund oh yes they did mention that and

1:56:33

talked about it thank you

1:56:34

sure thank you councilman

1:56:38

Rodriguez hope

1:56:44

it's thank you very much he say hope

1:56:47

it's not too loud something something no

1:56:50

questions no questions all right yeah

1:56:53

that would have been a tough question to

1:56:55

answer I don't have any questions

1:56:59

myself no no

1:57:03

problem um I don't have any questions

1:57:05

myself thank you very much for the

1:57:06

presentation of these other funds I

1:57:08

think it's important for the residents

1:57:09

to be able to see all of the budget um

1:57:11

not just the ones that are are have

1:57:14

specific department heads so I

1:57:15

appreciate you giv this presentation uh

1:57:17

and letting people know all the fine

1:57:18

details that are in it as well so thank

1:57:20

you very much okay thank you right vice

1:57:22

president green and thank you city

1:57:23

council

1:57:25

thank all right I believe that covers

1:57:28

the 2025 proposed budget um and all its

1:57:31

grander uh I will open it up for public

1:57:34

comment now um housekeeping rules please

1:57:37

keep the four minutes state your name in

1:57:39

the area in the city which you reside I

1:57:42

will start to my right is there any

1:57:44

public

1:57:45

comment anyone in the center any public

1:57:50

comment any one to the left public

1:57:55

comment I appreciate everyone who has

1:57:58

attended the budget hearings um these

1:58:00

last four days as well as everyone who

1:58:02

has participated online um I appreciate

1:58:05

the residents who've sent in questions

1:58:07

online or spoke to different council

1:58:08

members uh with their questions or

1:58:10

concerns or spoke with our our city

1:58:12

council staff as well I also want to say

1:58:14

thank you to the city council staff for

1:58:16

all the work that they've done to

1:58:17

compile uh the information get us the

1:58:20

presentations and slides reach out to

1:58:22

the the various departments so um your

1:58:23

work doesn't go unnoticed um and it

1:58:25

doesn't go unappreciated thank you to

1:58:27

the solicitor's office for for making

1:58:29

sure that uh everything's in order and

1:58:32

making sure they're constantly sending

1:58:34

us updates um to remind us of things

1:58:36

that will trigger certain uh advertising

1:58:38

requirements or different things

1:58:41

throughout the budget process so uh it's

1:58:42

all appreciated and it doesn't go

1:58:44

unnoticed uh I think I will see if there

1:58:46

is a motion to adjourn

1:58:50

now not on you're not

1:58:56

here

1:58:57

anybody wants to leave I'd like to um

1:59:01

say one thing before we adjourn and i'

1:59:03

just like to thank vice president green

1:59:06

for facilitating the budget hearings she

1:59:09

did a great job keeping everything

1:59:11

moving and I just appreciate your cander

1:59:16

during this so thank you and I make a

1:59:19

motion to a journ

1:59:23

thank you thank you

1:59:25

both we are now officially adjourned um

1:59:29

this is off the Record but still uh

1:59:31

remember we do have a meeting next

1:59:32

Tuesday which will be a legislative

1:59:34

meeting the work is not done to my

1:59:36

council members if you have any

1:59:38

amendments please send them to Jared um

1:59:41

and he'll compile them and and get them

1:59:43

all out to everybody thank you

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