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Harrisburg City Legislative and Work Session 2/3/2026

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They're

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conduct a legislative caucus prior to

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calling our legislative session to

29:42

order.

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Mr. Trudale will call the role. The

29:47

invocation this evening will be led by

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Councilwoman Ross, followed by the

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pledge of allegiance, which will be led

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by Vice President Jones. For

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communications this evening, we are

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joined uh for a presentation on the

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theater Harrisburg's 100th anniversary.

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Uh Laurianne Reese Mahay, executive

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director, will share the presentation.

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Then we will move to courtesy of the

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floor followed by the approval of the

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minutes for the legislative session that

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occurred on January 13, 2026.

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We will then move to reports of

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committees. Uh the first report

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delivered this evening will be delivered

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by our budget and finance committee

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chair vice president Jones on the work

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session of January 20th, 2026.

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The next report will be delivered by our

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community and economic development

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committee chair, Councilman Lawson, on

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the work session of January 20th, 2026.

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The next report will be delivered by our

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parks, recreation, and enrichment

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committee chair, Councilwoman Ross, on

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the work session of January 20th, 2026.

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The final committee report will be

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delivered by our public safety committee

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chair, Councilwoman Green, on the work

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session of January 20th, 2026.

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There are no ordinances for first

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reading, no ordinances for amendment, or

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no ordinances for final passage. We will

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move to resolutions. The first

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resolution for consideration is

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resolution one of 2026, which we will

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vote upon.

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Resolution two of 2026,

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which we will vote upon. Resolution

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three of 2026, there is a request to

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table resolution 3 of 2026.

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Resolution 4 of 2026 will be voted upon.

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Resolution 5 of 2026 will be voted upon.

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Resolution 6 of 2026 will move to the

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public works committee. Resolution seven

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of 2026 will move to the administration

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committee. Resolution 8 of 2026 will

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move to the administration committee.

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And resolution nine of 2026 will move to

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the public works committee. Is there any

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old business for discussion? Council

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members.

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Any new business?

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Okay. Seeing hearing none, then we will

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adjourn. The time is 5:39

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p.m. I would like to call our

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legislative session to order.

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>> Mr. Trudale, could you please call the

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role?

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>> Miss Davis,

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Miss Green,

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>> present.

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>> Mr. Jones,

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>> here.

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>> Mr. Lawson,

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>> here.

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>> Miss Rolls,

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>> present.

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>> Mr. Rodriguez,

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>> present.

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>> Miss Hill,

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>> present.

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Thank you. The invocation this evening

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will be led by Councilwoman Ross.

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>> Thank you. I would like to um for

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everyone to take a moment of silence um

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for anybody who is going through any

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hardships currently, for anybody who is

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experiencing someone missing in their

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family. But most importantly, I would

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like to take a moment of silence for the

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current state of our country and just

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thinking about how we all work together

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to get it to a better place. Can we all

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please take a moment of silence for all

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of those reasons?

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Thank you.

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>> Thank you, Councilwoman Ross. The pledge

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of allegiance will be led by Vice

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President Jones.

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stands one nation under God, indivisible

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with liberty and justice for all.

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>> Thank you, Vice President Jones. For

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communications this evening, please. We

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have a presentation on the Theater

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Harrisburg's 100th anniversary.

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Hello. Sorry. Take a moment.

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>> Hi. Um, so for those who don't know me,

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my name is Laurian Mayhe. I'm the

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executive director for Theater

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Harrisburg, and I wanted to thank you

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for inviting me to present today. Um,

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the theater was founded in 1926. We are

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in our in the midst of our 100th

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anniversary season and um coming up into

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our hundth uh anniversary year. We were

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founded as Harrisburg Community Theater

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or HCT as the community still lovingly

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refers to us a lot of times. Um, we

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spent the first part of our, um, time as

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a theater going to all these different

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spaces around Harrisburg, most of which

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don't exist anymore, until eventually in

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1952, we settled at Herlock and Sixth

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Street, which is where we now know it as

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the uh, Jay and Nancy Krebsky

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um, production center. And so I I

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included a couple quick shots, but um on

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average every year we produce between

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five to six mainstage shows as well as

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educational programming. And we are

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split between our Herurlock space and

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Whitaker Center. Uh we usually go to

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Whitaker about once or twice a year. So

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you'll see us both uptown and and

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downtown depending on the on the time.

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Um for this special season, we actually

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decided to go with a whole season of

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musicals. Um, we have already produced A

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Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder and

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Guys and Dolls, which was downtown in

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November. We're going to be opening up

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The Last Five Years, uh, this Friday.

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And then, God Spell and I Love You,

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You're Perfect, Now Change, which felt

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like a very apt title for a 100-year-old

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organization.

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And, um, in addition to our mainstage

35:50

season, we've also really been leaning

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into a lot of community partnerships.

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Um, so our first uh play was produced um

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we did a reading of the Dover Road which

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was our first show and we did it at the

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McCormick Public Library because that

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was the space that our um really our

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theater was was dreamt into being. Um

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when a group of women from the community

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came together and said, "I wonder what

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it would be like if if Harrisburg had a

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theater." And so this group of women

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came together and they created this

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place. It was entirely volunteer-run and

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we still have thousands of volunteers

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that help us to make everything possible

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even though we have a professional staff

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as well. Um we are going to be doing uh

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a collaboration with the Harrisburg

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Symphony Orchestra. Um we'll be doing a

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show May 30th and May 31st. It's Folly's

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in concert which is one of Sonheim's um

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best known pieces and that is going to

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be at the Forum Theater on May 30th and

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May 31st and then following that we'll

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be doing our 100th anniversary gala at

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the Ashcom mansion, the Willows at

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Ashcom mansion. Um in addition, we are

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going to be doing the fourth year of the

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Penguin Project. And if anyone doesn't

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know about this, it's a really wonderful

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program. It's a nationwide program. Um,

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we're the Harrisburg chapter. It's

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intended for children with disabilities.

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Um, so all of the kids between age 10 to

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21 are partnered with children without

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disabilities and they will work together

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for four months and they will rehearse

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and put together a musical that happens

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for one weekend at the Whitaker Center

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in August. Um, the program is entirely

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free to the community. We serve over 40

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children.

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um and it's a really really special um

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program. So it's one of the big pieces

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for us that's become a very important

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part of what we do and who we are in the

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community. Um following that we are

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actually going to be doing our first

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teen show in relation to that um where

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we're going to be also uh having the

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mentors the kids who work um with our

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what we call our penguins. Um they'll be

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doing the first teen show. They're doing

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Legally Blonde Junior the the weekend

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after. So, I hope you have a chance to

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come out and support it. It's a really

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heartfelt wonderful project to be part

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of.

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I That is a very very quick summary of

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some of the things we'll be doing. We

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launch um season 101 still in our hundth

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year in September. So, we'll be

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announcing some additional community

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programming and things of that nature.

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But at least this is kind of a an idea

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of some of the things we have coming up

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around the community. I wanted to see if

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you had any questions.

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>> Thank you. I don't

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>> You're welcome.

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>> Does anyone have any questions?

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Councilman Lawson,

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>> not really a a question, but um just a

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statement uh just remembering back to

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being a a a socially awkward kid in his

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um uh pre-teen to teen years and and

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being part of your acting class that was

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uh

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>> being held with uh I guess at that point

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Harrisburg Community Theater and just

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how much uh bringing theater into the

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lives of of children affects uh their

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well-being. and and it's been passed

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down to to my children where they're now

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in invested in theater. So, I want to

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thank you for letting me be a part of

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that 100-year journey.

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>> Thank you. I really appreciate that.

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>> Thank you. Um I do have a proclamation.

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If you wouldn't mind, please indulge me

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for a few minutes. uh the har the city

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of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, office of

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city council and office of city clerk

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proclamation. Whereas the city of

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Harrisburg applauds Theater Harrisburg

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for their dedicated commitment to

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sharing live theater and the arts with

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the greater Harrisburg area for 100

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years. And whereas Theater Harrisburg

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originated as the Harrisburg Community

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Theater, founded by Mrs. Robert Peters,

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president of the women's university

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club. She asked nine other women to join

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her in exploring the idea of local

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volunteer-based theater that would

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produce quality plays. And whereas Adele

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Iler served as the first director of the

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Harrisburg Community Theater. The first

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play of the Harrisburg Community Theater

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was the Dover Road, as you mentioned,

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produced in 1926 at the Old Majestic

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Theater located in downtown Harrisburg.

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And whereas productions of the

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Harrisburg Community Theater during the

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1920s through the early 1930s were held

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at the Majestic, but other performances

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were held at the Old City Hall building

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on Walnut Street in the former William

40:55

Penn High School. For 17 years, the

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Harrisburg Community Theater rented the

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Jewish Community Center, then located at

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1110 North Thirdrd Street. And whereas

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in 1950, ground was broken for the

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theat's permanent and current home,

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located at 6th and Herlock Streets in

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Uptown Harrisburg. For the next 48

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years, the Harrisburg Community Theater

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called the building its performance

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home, featuring performance space,

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dressing rooms, set, construction shop,

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and offices. And whereas in 1997,

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Harrisburg Community Theater became the

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first local performing arts organization

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to make a formal commitment as a

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resident company at Whitaker Center for

41:37

Science and the Arts. In addition,

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during the summer of 1999, the

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Harrisburg Community Theater became

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officially known as Theater Harrisburg.

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And whereas in 2005, the Herurlock

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building, Herurlock Street Building was

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renamed the Jay and Nancy Krebsky

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Production Center. It remains the

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location for Theater Harrisburg

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administrative offices, rehearsals, set

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construction, prop storage, costume

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creation, and other storage. And now

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therefore, be it hereby proclaimed that

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Harrisburg City Council commends Theater

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Harrisburg for their vision and

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commitment to community volunteers who

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assist in presenting the high quality

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theatrical experiences that local

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audiences expect and have grown to love.

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And be it further proclaimed that

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Harrisburg City Council wishes to extend

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best wishes for a successful 100th

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anniversary season. signed and attested

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in the city of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

42:36

Danielle L. Hill, Harrisburg City

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Council. Jared Trudale, city clerk. You

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mind taking a picture?

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Go ahead. You go first.

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>> Okay. Ready?

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>> One, two, three, and

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Great picture.

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>> Thank you.

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Next, we have courtesy of the floor. We

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have a full house tonight. So, just a

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few housekeeping notes before we begin.

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If you'd like to offer any public

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comments, please come to the microphone

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that the city clerk just readjusted

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there and state your name and your

44:11

address for the meeting record. If you

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don't feel comfortable sharing your

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address, please share the vicinity in

44:16

which you live within the city. You will

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have four minutes to share your

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comments. Mr. Trudale will serve as our

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timekeeper

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and he has added a timer to the screen

44:31

for your reference.

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Okay. So, we'll begin to my right. Is

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there anyone that would like to offer

44:38

public comment?

44:45

Good evening to the Harrisburg City

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Council. Thank you as always for your

44:49

service. My name is Wendy Shaver and I

44:52

am one of the co-directors of Power to

44:54

the Hill. We operate out of the Allison

44:57

Hill neighborhood at Christ Lutheran

44:59

Church on South 13th Street. I'm here

45:02

tonight to continue to explain about our

45:06

community action project. We spent our

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second community action project. Our

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team of volunteers, there are about 10

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of us here tonight, spent all of last

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year having conversations with neighbors

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in the Hison Hill neighborhood. And the

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neighborhood spoke loud and clear that

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their main priority that they would like

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us to help with organizing was to

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increase youth programming in the

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Allison Hill section of the city. So in

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in addition to the voice of the

45:35

neighborhood, I brought some

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demographics this evening that speak

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loud and clear to the need for this. I

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got these from Tri County Community

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Action. They use policy map and um

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interface that with the census data.

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In the state of Pennsylvania as a whole,

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the percent of the population under age

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18 is 21% and in the Allison Hill

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neighborhood, it is 34%.

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The in the state of Pennsylvania, the

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percent of families that are single

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parent families is 13%. In the Allison

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Hill neighborhood, it is 42%.

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And the poverty rate in Allison Hill is

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about 40% which is triple the national

46:25

average. So you can see the great need

46:28

for the city to help in providing youth

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programming for families in the Allison

46:34

Hill neighborhood.

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What we are asking from the city

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council, we have already had great

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support directly from Councilman Jones

46:44

and Councilwoman RWS, which we greatly

46:46

appreciate. In addition to the overall

46:49

support of the city council, we had an

46:52

email introduction from Miss RS to uh

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Kevin Saunders who is in charge of the

46:59

programming and we are waiting to hear

47:01

back from him to schedule a meeting. So

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any support we could get in connecting

47:06

us further to him to get a meeting set

47:09

up in making some action steps to

47:12

towards youth programming in the Allison

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Hill area. And when the ice melts, we as

47:19

an organization are going to be

47:20

canvasing the four playgrounds in

47:24

addition to Reservoir Park that are in

47:26

the Allison Hill neighborhood to see if

47:28

the swings, the basketball hoops, if

47:30

there are benches that need to be

47:31

replaced. and we are going to be coming

47:34

to the city council with a report of

47:36

those and asking for your financial

47:38

support and physical support in getting

47:41

those parks in great condition so that

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the youth of Allison Hill can enjoy

47:46

those. So, thank you again for your time

47:48

and we will be back with further

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information and further asks. Thank you.

47:54

>> Thank you.

47:56

Is there anyone else to my right that

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would like to offer public comment?

48:02

Yes. Good evening, council. Pam Parson,

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uh 18th and Holly. I was last before you

48:09

I believe in September. Uh Mr. Tuesday

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can uh verify, but it was when we were

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talking about um boards and commissions

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and the people who serve on them. And I

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would like to give you a little update

48:24

on that from my perspective. um my

48:27

committee, the environmental action

48:29

committee has not met. So here we are in

48:33

the new year of 2026 and we as a

48:36

committee have not met. I also would

48:39

like to share with you my most recent

48:40

experience with the redevelopment

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authority. Uh just after uh the new

48:46

year, a friend of mine asked me about

48:49

how do I bid on a property? How do I

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find out what properties are available

48:54

and how do I bid on a lot? So, I said,

48:58

"Well, look on their website."

48:59

Remembering that you had asked as a

49:03

council to update their website. She

49:06

called me back and she said, "Well, I

49:09

can't find the process and I don't I it

49:14

looks old." So, I said, "Well, I'll

49:17

look." So, I went and looked at their

49:19

website. It is three years old. The list

49:22

of properties are three years old. There

49:24

is nothing on the website that tells an

49:27

individual how they can bid on a

49:31

property. There's a process, but it's

49:34

for developers and people who want to

49:37

buy large blocks. And I remember the

49:40

line of questioning that evening uh from

49:43

Miss RWS and particularly from you um

49:46

Miss Green about um wanting to see the

49:50

properties and wanting to be able to

49:53

make them available to individuals. The

49:57

day I looked, they were meeting the next

50:00

day and of course their meetings are at

50:02

lunchtime and I happen to have a

50:05

conflict. I was actually going to go to

50:07

their meeting and pose this question,

50:09

but I wanted to give you that feedback

50:11

both on my own committee and what I

50:14

found recently when I looked at the

50:16

redevelopment authority. Thank you.

50:24

>> Uh just wanted to make a comment for

50:26

Miss Parson. Um she's 100% accurate with

50:29

the EAC board. Just so the public's

50:31

aware, council has made all of the

50:33

proper appointments on our end. We're

50:35

just waiting for the administration to

50:37

get the sustainability coordinator to

50:38

meet, but you guys do have a quorum and

50:41

anytime they get it together, you could

50:42

start meeting right away. Thank you for

50:44

those. Yep.

50:45

>> Thank you. Thank you both. Is there

50:47

anyone else who would like to offer

50:48

public comment to my right?

50:53

Okay, seeing hearing no one, anyone in

50:55

the middle section?

51:02

>> Good evening, counselor. My um name is

51:05

Yolanda Blanding and I live at the 1900

51:07

block of Brookwood Street. Um a couple

51:11

months back, my daughter works here at

51:13

the city of Harrisburg.

51:17

Tisha Barber,

51:19

she assaulted my daughter verbally,

51:22

humiliated her,

51:25

disrespect her,

51:27

followed her to her car. It's caught on

51:30

tape. It's supposed to been an

51:32

investigation been going on for the last

51:34

four months.

51:36

They keep telling my daughter they

51:39

investigate. They investigate. This been

51:42

going on for five or six months. Nothing

51:44

has been done. Nobody's saying nothing.

51:47

I feel as though it's being swept under

51:49

the rug.

51:51

I need to know have some answers. I need

51:54

to know. All my daughter wanted was a

51:57

public apology from her for what she did

51:59

to her in this building.

52:03

It wasn't outside the building. It was

52:05

in this building.

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And the captain said he's running a

52:10

investigation where as though we don't

52:12

have answers yet.

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So I would like for y'all to investigate

52:21

and find something out for me, please.

52:24

Thank you. Do you mind staying after the

52:26

meeting to uh communicate with our

52:29

public safety committee chair?

52:31

>> I have her card and her information.

52:33

>> Okay. Okay.

52:34

>> Speak before the meeting. Um I'll follow

52:35

up on it and if you can't stay, we can

52:38

chat afterwards.

52:39

>> Thank you.

52:40

>> Thank you. Thank you both. Is there

52:42

anyone else in the middle section that

52:43

would like to offer public comment?

52:46

>> Sorry for reading. It'll be to keep me

52:48

to time. Good evening, council. I'm

52:50

Brian Keysling from Midtown and I am

52:52

here tonight with a very large group of

52:54

people rallying outside to address the

52:55

ice crisis. The community gathered

52:58

outside this building is frustrated.

52:59

Some are scared. Many are ready to

53:02

defend their neighbors. But everybody is

53:04

angry. We are angry because we all see

53:06

the way Ice storms around like a pack of

53:08

slave catchers and Nazi Gestapo. And we

53:10

are furious because two weeks ago,

53:12

Commissioner Carter sat right here in

53:14

this room and told the people of

53:15

Harrisburg that we should just cooperate

53:17

and comply with ICE. Everybody knows

53:19

what that means. Every time the cops

53:22

kill someone in this country, all the

53:23

apologists come out to talk about how

53:25

the victims should just comply and take

53:27

the abuse every time. It would have been

53:30

more honest for Commissioner Carter to

53:31

say that ICE terrorizing and kidnapping

53:33

people is not a serious concern of his.

53:36

We all watched him laugh at the start of

53:38

his comment, and we all felt him dismiss

53:40

the gravity of the situation. Now, six

53:43

years ago, when George Floyd was

53:44

murdered by a cop, hundreds of us came

53:46

out into the streets to protest with the

53:49

same kind of righteous anger we feel

53:50

now. And Commissioner Carter greeted us

53:53

then with riot gear and pepper spray.

53:55

They brutalized people that evening. And

53:57

I will never forget that night when I

53:59

turned on the local news and saw

54:00

Commissioner Carter say he was happy to

54:02

report that there was no property damage

54:04

because that is what he cared about

54:06

protecting. I bring that up because we

54:08

are seeing a pattern. It is a pattern of

54:11

a blatant disregard for the safety and

54:13

well-being of the community. It is a

54:15

pattern that also includes the lack of

54:17

justice for those killed by Harrisburg

54:19

police. And now the pattern includes

54:21

collaboration with ICE terror. I could

54:23

have spoken tonight about how if people

54:25

are scared to leave their homes, it'll

54:27

hurt businesses and the city's economy.

54:29

And that is true. But more than that, we

54:31

are talking about basic safety and the

54:33

responsibility of the city to protect

54:35

its residents, whoever they are, from

54:37

any threat, even if that threat comes

54:40

from the government. It may take some

54:42

courage, but it's the right thing to do.

54:44

Two weeks ago, a commenter talked about

54:46

us losing federal funding. But if the

54:48

federal government says keeping our

54:49

people safe means no funding, then that

54:52

isn't funding, it's extortion. The

54:54

government is using funding as a weapon

54:56

and is already cutting it off all over

54:57

the place. I know people don't want to

55:00

think in this way, but that's the

55:02

reality we're facing. So, we need to be

55:03

pragmatic and plan for the fact that

55:05

ultimately we're likely to lose that

55:08

funding anyway for whatever reason they

55:10

decide at whatever time they decide. So,

55:13

we need to plan for that and not let it

55:15

stop us from doing the right thing about

55:16

ICE. And the community will work with

55:18

city officials if those officials work

55:20

to protect the people. I know there is

55:22

legislation in the works and we

55:24

appreciate that there's legislation in

55:25

the works. On behalf of much of the

55:27

community, I come here with a call to

55:29

action on a few of the things that we

55:30

need from the city. We need the city of

55:32

Harrisburg to formally and permanently

55:34

cut all ties with immigration

55:36

enforcement, including any mandated

55:38

reporting of any individuals. We do not

55:41

care if the federal government says the

55:43

police are required to report people.

55:46

Reporting anyone is unacceptable. Next,

55:48

we need the city to pass legislation

55:50

that will actively protect residents

55:52

from ICE raids, detention, harassment,

55:54

and terror. It is not enough for

55:56

Harrisburg police to stand by and let

55:58

ICE operate unimpeded. We need the city

56:00

to proactively keep people safe, even

56:02

when that means actively going against

56:05

ICE. And finally, we need the city to

56:07

cease all projects designed to increase

56:09

surveillance. Projects which give more

56:11

power to Harrisburg police to monitor,

56:13

control, or otherwise restrict the

56:15

freedoms of city residents. This city

56:18

often treats people like they're the

56:19

problem rather than people who are hurt

56:21

by the problem. These actions will take

56:23

courage. It will require all of us to

56:25

have moral clarity and a backbone. But

56:28

if our elected officials show us that

56:30

backbone, the people will stand behind

56:32

you and support you. Otherwise, we are

56:34

truly on our own to defend ourselves and

56:36

our neighbors, which we will do either

56:38

way. But it is simply a question of

56:40

whether the city will stand with the

56:41

people and make that job easier for us.

56:43

Thank you for your time.

56:46

>> Thank you.

56:49

>> Is there anyone else in the middle

56:50

section that would like to offer public

56:52

comment?

56:54

Hello, my name is Akira Louisa. Um, I

56:58

run Students Against Ice. Uh, I live on

57:00

Fishing Creek Valley Road and I go to

57:02

school downtown. Um, I know students

57:04

aren't taken seriously.

57:06

When I speak up, I've been told I need

57:08

to pay more attention in school because

57:10

of my views, which is ironic because any

57:12

look at history would prove what we're

57:14

doing is right. And I've been told that

57:17

my school is indoctrinating me, which is

57:19

funny because all my teachers are

57:20

terrified to say anything slightly

57:22

political or religious or just about

57:24

anything you'd see on the news out of

57:27

fear.

57:29

But that just means we as students have

57:31

to get louder. We must educate each

57:33

other. We must compromise and reach an

57:35

understanding with each other. We need

57:36

to nurture our community and save it

57:38

from the rain of ice. Adults need to

57:40

trust the youth and the youth needs to

57:42

band together. Especially because I run

57:45

Students Against Ice. I've seen and

57:46

heard from students at my own school

57:48

downtown and other schools around PA

57:51

that they are terrified of ICE agents

57:53

raiding near and on our schools. People

57:56

have missed school out of fear and

57:59

anger. And last year at my own school,

58:01

we had um a student with a legal visa

58:04

that was joining our school uh who had

58:07

to leave because she was so terrified

58:09

that ICE was going to come and get her

58:11

even though she was legally here for for

58:13

education.

58:15

Um it's not unfair. It's not only

58:17

unfair, but it's nauseating seeing and

58:19

hearing how the government and ICE are

58:21

treating our citizens.

58:23

They are stopping us from going to

58:24

school and running our businesses. And

58:26

it's on purpose. Minneapolis schools are

58:28

shut down right now. Less than an hour

58:31

away, they are setting up an ICE

58:32

concentration camp. We cannot let them

58:35

take our students. We cannot let them

58:36

take our parents. We cannot let them

58:38

take our community members, our fellow

58:40

human beings. We need to work hard

58:43

because imagine if we were in their

58:45

shoes.

58:47

And soon we aren't going to have to

58:48

imagine because if we don't have to

58:50

spend time stopping them, they will

58:53

start torturing us. All of us as

58:55

protesters are at risk, but us as people

58:58

of color, um people of as journalists,

59:02

students, and people old and young, ICE

59:05

is targeting us. You guys are debating

59:08

right now if they should cut ties with

59:09

ICE. And from the students, we say it's

59:11

a must. It's a need. Thank you, student

59:14

council, for supporting this legislation

59:16

and keep supporting our students. Thank

59:18

you.

59:19

>> Thank you.

59:25

Good evening, counselors. Thank you for

59:26

hearing us tonight. Kia Fowler from

59:28

North Fifth Street. So, I actually sat

59:30

here during our last work session on

59:31

January 20th, and I was here to listen

59:33

to police commissioner Thomas Carter

59:35

stated that the police only assist ICE

59:37

as per legal requirements. Commissioner

59:39

Carter suggested residents have nothing

59:40

to fear if they follow the law and

59:42

comply with ICE. Commissioner Carter

59:44

stated there that they are willing to

59:45

protect their brother law enforcement

59:47

officers in case of unrest. I disagree

59:49

with Commissioner Cardner's willingness

59:51

to cooperate with ICE for the following

59:52

reasons. Number one, ICE is untrained.

59:55

ICE used to get five months of academy

59:57

training. That included five weeks of

59:59

Spanish language and 16 weeks of law

1:00:00

enforcement training. Now they're only

1:00:02

getting six weeks of total academy

1:00:04

training. That's about 48 days. This has

1:00:06

been confirmed by DHS officials. Number

1:00:08

two, they have a policy of con of

1:00:10

violating constitutional protections. A

1:00:12

report released in 2013 shows patterns

1:00:15

of DHS agents intentionally stepping

1:00:17

into the path of a vehicle in order to

1:00:19

create the use of justified force. The

1:00:21

result of this report was a new rules

1:00:23

prohibiting agents from doing this very

1:00:24

action and prohibiting agents from

1:00:26

killing the drivers of a vehicle

1:00:27

attempting to flee the scene. Rules

1:00:29

instructed agents to avoid shooting and

1:00:31

killing drivers of a vehicle due to the

1:00:32

potential injury or death of bystanders.

1:00:34

As we saw with Renee Good, agents are

1:00:36

still enacting prohibited actions

1:00:38

despite having received training on

1:00:39

department policy. Additionally, a DHS

1:00:42

internal memo dated May 2025 tells

1:00:45

agents they can enter homes without a

1:00:46

judicial warrant in order to conduct

1:00:48

agency business. As we all know, this is

1:00:50

a violation of our fourth amendment

1:00:51

rights. Uh, individuals who are impacted

1:00:53

by unlawful ICE actions since the last

1:00:55

council meeting include, but are not

1:00:57

limited to three of the following. As we

1:00:59

all know, Alex Prey was a 37year-old US

1:01:01

citizen and legal observer. He was an

1:01:03

ICU nurse at the Veterans

1:01:05

Administration. While he was holding his

1:01:06

cell phone, he attempted to assist a

1:01:08

woman being pepper-sprayed and was, as a

1:01:10

result, slammed to the ground. When he

1:01:11

was slammed to the ground, he was

1:01:12

disarmed of the firearm that he was

1:01:14

permitted to conceal carry. After being

1:01:17

disarmed, he was shot 10 times by two

1:01:18

ICE agents and was killed. Then we have

1:01:21

Liam Ramos. He is a 5-year-old He is a

1:01:23

5-year-old asylum applicant. He was held

1:01:25

as bait by ICE agents in attempt to lure

1:01:27

his parents outside of the home so they

1:01:29

could detain and deport his parents.

1:01:31

Please note, his parents have no

1:01:32

criminal record and are also asylum

1:01:34

applicants. His mother was unable to go

1:01:36

outside to rescue her child because she

1:01:37

was currently pregnant. Our third and

1:01:40

final example is Jonathan Garcia. He's a

1:01:42

17-year-old cit US citizen. At the time,

1:01:44

he was a Target employee and he was on

1:01:46

shift at Target. When ICE detained him,

1:01:49

he identified himself as a US citizen.

1:01:51

He was not permitted to show his proof

1:01:52

of citizenship um nor was he permitted

1:01:55

to walk away. He was slammed to the

1:01:56

ground. 10 minutes later, a videotape

1:01:58

shows him walking away from Walmart

1:02:00

where he'd been dumped bleeding from the

1:02:02

wounds sustained during detention by

1:02:03

ICE. Here are some concrete steps that I

1:02:06

ask council take. One, pass a

1:02:08

non-ooperation agreement. Harrisburg

1:02:09

City Council should state that it will

1:02:11

not voluntarily assist federal civil

1:02:12

immigration enforcement and that city

1:02:14

staff will not share information unless

1:02:16

legal required. This ensures local

1:02:17

government focuses on local

1:02:19

responsibilities, not federal

1:02:20

enforcement. Two, apply pressure to

1:02:22

mayor and police commissioner to ban

1:02:24

287G agreements. City police should be

1:02:26

used to prioritize protecting residents

1:02:28

against violation of constitutional

1:02:30

rights by federal agents, not assisting

1:02:31

federal agents in their attempts to do

1:02:33

just that. Commissioner Carter stated on

1:02:36

January 20th uh during the working

1:02:37

session that quote, "We won't let ICE

1:02:39

beat you. Create legislation, please, to

1:02:42

to enforce this statement. Three, follow

1:02:44

in the footsteps of LA County and ban

1:02:46

the use of facial coverings." I'm going

1:02:48

to skip a little bit because I'm running

1:02:49

out of time. Uh three, prohibit use of

1:02:51

city resources um in immigration

1:02:53

enforcement. Uh four pro prohibit DHS

1:02:56

from using administrative warrants. Five

1:02:58

prohibit DHS sorry five is uh five

1:03:02

prohibit use of city resources um uh

1:03:05

building staff time tax dollars etc.

1:03:07

Seven prohibit DHS from entering any

1:03:09

location public or private without a

1:03:11

signed judicial warrant. Eight adopt

1:03:13

strong data privacy policies in terms of

1:03:15

sharing. Nine require transparency and

1:03:17

notice uh publicly disclose any requests

1:03:20

from ICE. 10 fund or support know your

1:03:22

rights education. 11, protects city

1:03:24

services from being used as traps. And

1:03:26

12, communicate clearly with us. Issue

1:03:28

public statements explain what the city

1:03:29

will and will not do. Sorry, I went over

1:03:31

time. Thank you very much.

1:03:33

>> Thank you. Is there anyone else in the

1:03:35

middle section that would like to offer

1:03:37

public comment?

1:03:42

My name is Julia Tilly, old uptown. I've

1:03:45

been a resident here in Harrisburg City

1:03:47

for over 30 years. I'm a social worker

1:03:49

and a community activist. I am here to

1:03:52

support the work that council has been

1:03:54

doing um to protect our rights as

1:03:58

residents against the illegal activities

1:04:00

of civil immigration enforcement agents

1:04:02

in our communities. I wholeheartedly

1:04:05

support the bill that council has

1:04:06

drafted, but those policies are only

1:04:10

good if they are enforced. If this bill

1:04:13

is passed, I want assurance that the

1:04:15

mayor, our police chief, and our

1:04:17

district attorney will support the

1:04:19

provisions proposed in this bill. And I

1:04:21

would like a commitment from our law

1:04:23

enforcement that they will investigate

1:04:26

and detain any civil immigrant

1:04:29

enforcement agents that violate the

1:04:31

laws. In Dolphin County, there is only

1:04:34

one entity that can bring charges, and

1:04:37

that is the district attorney, which is

1:04:39

an elected position. May I remind

1:04:41

everybody, I am calling on District

1:04:43

Attorney Shardo to go on record that he

1:04:46

will protect us and prosecute any

1:04:49

federal agent or official that exceeds

1:04:51

their lawful authority. I'd also like to

1:04:54

ask District Attorney Chardo to join the

1:04:57

Federal Overreach Organization, which is

1:04:59

a group of district attorneys that are

1:05:01

committed to holding federal agents

1:05:03

accountable for such things as

1:05:06

warrantless entry, unlawful detentions,

1:05:08

and coercive enforcement tactics.

1:05:12

Harrisburg residents are afraid. They're

1:05:15

afraid to leave their homes. They're

1:05:16

afraid they're going to be disappeared.

1:05:18

They're afraid to go to the doctors,

1:05:20

afraid to go to school, afraid to go to

1:05:22

work, and afraid to exercise their civil

1:05:25

rights. My disabled daughter, who is an

1:05:29

adult, has a panic attack whenever I

1:05:32

leave the house to protest, to exercise

1:05:34

my freedom of speech.

1:05:37

She's terrified that I will be executed

1:05:39

for speaking truth to power. We do not

1:05:43

want Minneapolis here. We do not want a

1:05:45

city under siege. And we do not want our

1:05:48

brothers and sisters detained and

1:05:51

kidnapped at random or worse shot and

1:05:54

killed in the streets. We want peace in

1:05:56

our city, accountability, and the

1:05:59

freedom to move about without fear and

1:06:02

anything short of that we the citizens

1:06:04

and residents will not accept.

1:06:14

Thank you. Is there anyone else in the

1:06:15

middle section that would like to offer

1:06:17

public comment?

1:06:21

>> Sorry. Hi there, council. Thank you. Um,

1:06:23

good evening. Carrie Fowler. I live in

1:06:25

Midtown Harrisburg. I'm here tonight

1:06:27

because I believe deeply in the values

1:06:29

of the city and because those values are

1:06:31

ruined when professionalism and basic

1:06:34

decency are treated as optional. At its

1:06:37

core, local government is about service.

1:06:40

It's about respect. It's about

1:06:42

remembering that every question a

1:06:44

resident asks comes from someone who

1:06:47

lives here, pays taxes here, raises

1:06:50

families here, and cares enough to

1:06:53

engage.

1:06:54

Residents asking questions, whether

1:06:57

online or in person, are not being

1:07:00

disruptive. They are participating in

1:07:02

democracy.

1:07:04

When city staff respond to those

1:07:06

questions with sarcasm, hostility, or

1:07:10

bullying, it sends a dangerous message

1:07:13

that power matters more than people.

1:07:16

That engagement will be met with

1:07:18

ridicule and instead of respect. That is

1:07:21

not the kind of city Harrisburg should

1:07:23

be. I want to be clear about why I'm

1:07:26

speaking up. This is not the first time

1:07:28

I have witnessed these individuals

1:07:30

respond this way to residents. I have

1:07:34

seen this pattern before time and time

1:07:36

again. I am choosing to speak now

1:07:39

because when this behavior goes

1:07:41

unressed, it becomes normalized and

1:07:45

normal normalization erodess trust. The

1:07:49

behavior I'm referencing came from a

1:07:51

community service aid whose role is to

1:07:54

work directly with residents and the

1:07:58

communications director for the city of

1:08:00

Harrisburg.

1:08:01

These are positions rooted in public

1:08:04

trust. These when people in these roles

1:08:07

engage residents online with disrespect,

1:08:11

it carries weight whether the comments

1:08:14

are made from an official account or a

1:08:16

personal account.

1:08:18

That matters because city policy is

1:08:21

clear that employees personal use of

1:08:24

social media does not excuse

1:08:27

unprofessional conduct, especially when

1:08:30

individuals are publicly identifiable as

1:08:34

city staff or when their comments rate

1:08:36

relate to city business. Personal

1:08:39

accounts do not erase professional

1:08:42

responsibility.

1:08:44

The line between personal and official

1:08:46

depear disappears when power author

1:08:49

authority and public trust are involved.

1:08:52

I have printed screenshots of the

1:08:54

remarks and the city's own social media

1:08:56

media policy for each one of you to read

1:09:00

for your decide yourselves and decide if

1:09:03

you think it's okay to talk to our

1:09:05

residents, our taxpayers in the city in

1:09:08

that manner. I tried my best to keep

1:09:10

them in order of the dialogue as it was

1:09:12

occurring.

1:09:13

This is not about opinions or tone

1:09:16

policing. It is about whether we are

1:09:18

honoring the standards and values the

1:09:20

city has set for itself and whether we

1:09:23

expect those standards to apply

1:09:25

consistently.

1:09:27

Using social media to bully residents is

1:09:30

not transparency and it is not

1:09:32

leadership. If someone cannot respond to

1:09:36

residents with professionalism and

1:09:38

respect on any platform, then the most

1:09:42

responsible choice is to not comment at

1:09:45

all. We are living in a moment where

1:09:48

cruelty has been normalized and

1:09:50

disrespect is often excused as being

1:09:53

tough. But local government should be a

1:09:56

counter example. It should model

1:09:58

decency, accountability, and restraint,

1:10:02

especially when conversations are

1:10:03

difficult. The way city staff speak to

1:10:06

residents matters. It determines whether

1:10:09

people feel welcome to participate or

1:10:12

pushed away from politics in our city.

1:10:15

It shapes whether civic engagements feel

1:10:18

safe or risky. I am asking this

1:10:21

administration and this council to lead

1:10:24

with values. Make it clear that

1:10:27

professionalism applies online and

1:10:30

offline on accounts and personal

1:10:33

accounts. Make it clear that bullying

1:10:35

residents is unacceptable. And make it

1:10:38

clear that respect is not something

1:10:41

residents have to earn. It is something

1:10:43

they are owed.

1:10:46

Harrisburg can do better. We can choose

1:10:49

dignity over defensiveness, service over

1:10:52

ego, and community over conflict. Thank

1:10:55

you.

1:10:59

>> Thank you. Is there anyone else in the

1:11:01

middle section that would like to offer

1:11:03

public comment?

1:11:12

>> Hello. Um, I had no intention on on

1:11:15

getting up here to speak, but after

1:11:17

hearing them two ladies speak, I feel

1:11:19

like I have to. Now, I mean, we got a

1:11:22

beautiful city council sitting here.

1:11:24

Everybody's dapper and looking pretty

1:11:26

good and all that, but you're not

1:11:29

worried about somebody going in your

1:11:30

home and taking your kids out or you're

1:11:33

not worried about going out to your car

1:11:34

and being picked up and snatched. We

1:11:37

have to do something about this in

1:11:39

Harrisburg. We can't do something about

1:11:40

Minneapolis, but we have to do something

1:11:43

about it here before it gets here.

1:11:45

>> Let's not wait for him to get here and

1:11:47

say, "Oh, well, you know that that's not

1:11:48

right." Well, we know it's not right

1:11:50

already.

1:11:51

>> That's right.

1:11:52

>> So,

1:11:54

like these people are saying, let's get

1:11:56

something together. We There's a lot of

1:11:59

cities that are saying we're not going

1:12:01

to have it.

1:12:02

>> We can be one of those cities.

1:12:04

>> That's right.

1:12:05

>> Let's not have it. Just simple as that.

1:12:07

I mean, you know, we can't we got the

1:12:09

big orange guy that we got to fight, but

1:12:12

everybody else is fighting. We can't

1:12:14

join up with him cuz when he falls, we

1:12:17

don't want to fall with him. And you

1:12:19

know, I've known the commissioner for a

1:12:22

lot of years, and it shocked me to hear

1:12:25

that when he said that. I I didn't I

1:12:27

still it doesn't sink, you know, but um

1:12:33

everybody's an elected official except

1:12:35

maybe him, but uh everybody who is

1:12:39

elected needs to come on board with this

1:12:42

because the next the election, if you're

1:12:45

not on board, you might not be here.

1:12:50

>> Can you please state your name? Can you

1:12:52

please state your name?

1:12:53

>> James Brown. Very famous name.

1:12:57

and your address or the vicinity in

1:12:59

which you live just for the meeting

1:13:01

record.

1:13:01

>> I live in the 1900 block of Lennox.

1:13:04

>> Thank you.

1:13:04

>> Right off of Paxton.

1:13:06

>> And I'm a contractor, certified minority

1:13:08

contractor. And uh something else I

1:13:11

wanted to mention is that I understand

1:13:13

that you're faced with an opportunity to

1:13:15

do great things for the minority

1:13:17

contractors which do things for the city

1:13:19

and all the other uh people in the city

1:13:23

on the kids, the groceries, all of these

1:13:26

things. Um anytime this thing comes up

1:13:30

before you, please back the ideas that

1:13:34

are coming out. I've heard some of them

1:13:36

and they're they're really good. They're

1:13:37

they're going to do great things for the

1:13:40

the contractors here and for the people.

1:13:44

Not just the contractors, but you know,

1:13:46

the minorities, um our kids, our

1:13:48

grandkids. It's going to do a lot of

1:13:50

things. You know, it's been a lot of

1:13:51

years since we had uh close to evil even

1:13:56

uh playing field. And uh I'm 71 years

1:13:59

old and I don't remember us ever having

1:14:02

one. So, you know, let's try try to do

1:14:04

something better in that, you know, in

1:14:06

that form too, uh, against the ice and

1:14:09

for our city and our contractors. And I

1:14:12

thank you very much.

1:14:14

>> Thank you. Is there anyone else in the

1:14:16

middle section?

1:14:21

>> Good evening. My name is Tracy Talton

1:14:23

and I'm from the Allison Hill District

1:14:26

in Harrisburg.

1:14:28

And I like him. I had no intention on

1:14:31

speaking, but I feel like I have to. So

1:14:37

when I come before you here this

1:14:40

evening, I'm coming as a certified

1:14:43

minority female contractor. Okay. Um I

1:14:48

have renovated

1:14:50

many homes in the Harrisburg area, put

1:14:54

heart, sweat, and tears in it. sold

1:14:57

them. I mean, redevelop the communities.

1:15:01

Mr. Jones can tell you when I come in

1:15:03

the neighborhood, everybody's values

1:15:06

going up on their house. Okay? Because

1:15:09

that's what happens. So, if you take one

1:15:11

person that can um bring the skills

1:15:15

necessary to redevelop our

1:15:17

neighborhoods, it gives the people that

1:15:20

live in the neighborhoods the pride and

1:15:23

they start to take that back. and then

1:15:25

you'll see another person out there

1:15:26

painting and another person out there

1:15:28

doing that. And it also makes um the

1:15:31

children look up to people um that look

1:15:34

like them. So, with all of that being

1:15:38

said and going through

1:15:42

um all the different roads and avenues

1:15:45

that I had to take to become certified,

1:15:48

now that I am certified, I still want to

1:15:51

redevelop land in the city of Harrisburg

1:15:55

along with other contractors that um are

1:16:00

minorities. Okay?

1:16:02

um whether it be a female, black, brown,

1:16:04

gray, whatever. Okay. But that

1:16:08

opportunity for me is limited here. So,

1:16:11

I guess I'm coming before city council

1:16:14

to say, um, we need your help. There are

1:16:18

gatekeepers, and I'mma put it out there.

1:16:21

There are gatekeepers,

1:16:23

>> who have, um, the land that needs to be

1:16:28

de developed. You go before them. I'm

1:16:30

also a real estate agent. You go before

1:16:32

them. So, I know the transaction of

1:16:35

buying, selling homes, land or whatever.

1:16:38

But when you go before them, our prices

1:16:40

go up out of out of control. Or you're

1:16:43

in a bidding war with somebody that

1:16:45

doesn't exist.

1:16:47

Then you see that somebody another

1:16:50

developer from somewhere else has

1:16:53

purchased this land

1:16:55

>> and then it leaves us that live here

1:16:58

because my company is city. Okay. I grew

1:17:02

up in the city. I'm a product of the

1:17:05

city. I went to Harrisburg school

1:17:07

districts. I mean that's what I do. I I

1:17:10

want to see the community that I grew up

1:17:12

in thrive. I want our kids to be able to

1:17:15

look at things and have nice things.

1:17:17

Just because you live in the city or

1:17:19

because you may not have what this other

1:17:21

person have, it don't mean you can't

1:17:23

have nice things. That's right.

1:17:24

>> And it don't mean that you got to settle

1:17:26

for less. So, if we don't raise the bar

1:17:29

and we don't have or we try to raise the

1:17:32

bar, I should say, because I can't speak

1:17:33

for everybody else, but I can speak for

1:17:35

myself. I've tried and I have raised the

1:17:38

bar for my city neighbors, the children

1:17:43

and all, but if we don't have city

1:17:45

council's help to help us get through

1:17:48

some of the barriers and the gatekeepers

1:17:50

there, then it hinders us and it hinders

1:17:53

our business from growing.

1:17:55

You got I'm gonna say this real quick. I

1:17:57

have 27 seconds. the farm sh the farmers

1:18:01

market. You have certified contractors

1:18:03

that are bidding on these jobs. You have

1:18:06

the prime contractors who will send you

1:18:08

out and invite to bid. You they send it

1:18:10

to you and then you never hear from them

1:18:12

no more and then they come back and they

1:18:13

tell you, "Oh, well, we did send the

1:18:15

invitations to bid, but they didn't

1:18:16

respond." That is not true. Okay. So,

1:18:20

again, I'm asking for your help. I'll be

1:18:22

back in two weeks and I'm going to ask

1:18:24

for it again and I'm gonna keep asking

1:18:26

for it until we get it. Thank you.

1:18:29

>> Thank you.

1:18:31

Is there anyone else in the middle

1:18:33

section that would like to offer public

1:18:35

comment?

1:18:37

Okay, seeing and hearing no one, anyone

1:18:39

to my left.

1:18:54

Uh hello, I'm Toby. Uh, I live in

1:18:57

Midtown. Um, I'm just coming up here to

1:19:01

say that the

1:19:04

I I have no idea why Harrisburg is not

1:19:08

continuing to do anything about the snow

1:19:11

removal. Um, I haven't seen anything

1:19:14

happening or heard anything. Um there is

1:19:19

so many dangerous areas.

1:19:22

Um

1:19:24

mostly by intersections that are still

1:19:27

the walkways are still covered with snow

1:19:30

and I think it's just a very very big

1:19:33

public health issue that needs to be

1:19:35

taken care of. Uh thank you.

1:19:39

>> Thank you.

1:19:41

Is there anyone else to my left that

1:19:43

would like to offer public comment?

1:19:55

City Council, y'all have seen me before,

1:19:59

but I will repeat my name. My name is

1:20:01

Robert C. Weldon. I was here in front of

1:20:03

you few weeks ago on the council meeting

1:20:06

in January, first one.

1:20:09

Uh, I recently have had city codes come

1:20:12

into my apartment and do the inspection.

1:20:15

If I may,

1:20:19

inspector badge, I will not give

1:20:22

anything to his name or anything, but I

1:20:25

will say denote owners to which

1:20:26

compliance letters will be sent pursuant

1:20:28

to ordinance

1:20:30

uh I can't pronounce how this is. It's a

1:20:33

numerical 1-207.

1:20:36

All residential properties units require

1:20:38

an annual residential rental unit

1:20:40

registration and are to be inspected for

1:20:42

code compliance. One time every 60

1:20:45

months to register your property in a

1:20:47

time prescribed could result in your

1:20:49

property being placarded as unfit for

1:20:52

human habitation in addition to other

1:20:54

legal remedies. This property has an

1:20:57

overdue rental registration payment. If

1:20:59

you have any other properties in the

1:21:01

city that are overdue for rental

1:21:02

registration, use the forms provided for

1:21:04

vote this that and the other. However,

1:21:07

he goes on to state there is wrap on the

1:21:10

pipes in the basement and must be

1:21:12

wrapped or removed.

1:21:15

Now, I just went down in there and I

1:21:18

have posted a video and I will say that

1:21:20

video. You can go to YouTube at

1:21:23

robertweldon2704.

1:21:27

Behind the heating unit that is to my

1:21:31

unit, there is a pipe section where they

1:21:35

have a piece of metal with brad wrap and

1:21:39

on that it's just like sitting there

1:21:42

like it's a tray.

1:21:44

It's just laying there as best fell away

1:21:46

from the pipe.

1:21:49

Now you go and look

1:21:52

right where my electrical panel is. And

1:21:56

I know I had deer in the headlights on

1:21:58

the first video, but I went back down

1:22:01

there on the 22nd of Thursday of last

1:22:04

January

1:22:07

and then I turned and froze because

1:22:09

right there above my electrical panel is

1:22:12

open exposed asbestous.

1:22:16

the very place that I have to flip the

1:22:18

breaker.

1:22:22

And it's only covered

1:22:24

with the same

1:22:26

foil you put into an oven.

1:22:30

And it's all over the place.

1:22:35

Now,

1:22:37

my worry is this. I have nowhere to go.

1:22:41

I'm facing a very financial deficit

1:22:44

situation.

1:22:46

I'm trapped.

1:22:48

I'm literally trapped

1:22:53

now. I don't know what to do.

1:22:56

I have no resources, no financial

1:22:59

assistant I have tried to find.

1:23:02

I don't know what to do. If they deem

1:23:05

this uninhabitable because of

1:23:07

nonresponse,

1:23:10

I'm out of the apartment.

1:23:14

That's not fair to me. Not fair from a

1:23:17

rental agency that's city limits.

1:23:21

And they've also sold my property to

1:23:24

someone else. So therefore,

1:23:27

it's criminal now. It's fraud because

1:23:30

when they sold it, they went through the

1:23:32

Midtown properties. I spoke with the

1:23:34

real estate agent

1:23:37

and I told her, she said, "Sbbestous."

1:23:40

I said, "Can you send me a copy of the

1:23:42

disclosure? Do you know what I have now?

1:23:44

I can't even call her number now. She's

1:23:46

disconnected it.

1:23:49

So therefore, she's knowingly committing

1:23:51

fraud upon the sale.

1:23:57

Now, this is a criminal act. I'm asking

1:24:00

for something to be done.

1:24:03

It's got to be done. A lot of this

1:24:06

nonsense with these deadbeat landlord

1:24:08

situations, it's got to be done. It's

1:24:11

got to be dealt with.

1:24:14

>> Thank you for your comment.

1:24:15

>> Thank you.

1:24:16

>> Can you please state your address? I

1:24:18

know you stated your name, but just for

1:24:20

the meeting record or the vicinity in

1:24:22

which you live.

1:24:22

>> I live in 1210 Marketer Street, first

1:24:25

floor, Harrisburg, PA17103.

1:24:28

>> Thank you. I just had a question. I I

1:24:30

know we don't normally uh answer

1:24:33

questions right now or go back and forth

1:24:36

of a conversation, but I do feel like

1:24:37

that's an important issue. So, I was

1:24:40

just wondering if as a legal matter, I

1:24:41

know usually tenant landlord tenant

1:24:43

issues are dealt at the MDJ's office,

1:24:46

the one that's nearest to, and I can't

1:24:47

think off the top of my head what judge

1:24:49

that would be. Salone in your area. Um,

1:24:53

I know they directly deal with that, but

1:24:55

I don't know from a standpoint of the

1:24:56

city with codes giving him a letter. Is

1:24:59

there anyone particularly that he could

1:25:01

talk to to at least get something

1:25:03

started with the city? Because it feels

1:25:04

like a two-part conversation.

1:25:07

I'll try to speak.

1:25:10

>> Oh gosh.

1:25:31

>> It just takes time to do that. They

1:25:34

could also

1:25:36

Fair Housing Council

1:25:39

and Central

1:25:42

Legal Services about

1:26:02

servicesal

1:26:04

and advice.

1:26:16

>> Okay. I I would definitely call Central

1:26:19

Pen Legal if you haven't already. I do

1:26:21

know when you call them

1:26:24

>> I'm sorry.

1:26:26

>> I would

1:26:27

>> Do you mind waiting until after our

1:26:29

meeting is over to communicate for Okay.

1:26:32

>> I will say this though. I've tried

1:26:34

contacting MP Legal Services before and

1:26:36

on other issues and it's just like I'm

1:26:39

on the phone and calling them and

1:26:40

speaking to them and I get nothing.

1:26:43

That's it. To me that's a dead end dead

1:26:45

end, you know, street help to after um

1:26:49

I've used them before. So I try to help

1:26:51

you where I can.

1:26:53

>> Thank you.

1:26:54

>> Thank you. Is there anyone else to my

1:26:55

left that would like to offer public

1:26:57

comment?

1:27:13

Good evening, council. My name is

1:27:15

Melanie Cook. I live in the 3000 block

1:27:17

of North Third Street in the city of

1:27:19

Harrisburg. I too was here a couple of

1:27:22

weeks ago um and sat through the work

1:27:26

session. One of the things I want to

1:27:28

comment on initially is to speak on

1:27:31

behalf of a project that is here for

1:27:34

final approval. The Pinmark Harrisburg

1:27:37

holding project at Poly Clinic Hospital.

1:27:40

For those of you who are not familiar,

1:27:42

should make yourselves available to

1:27:44

review and come to their public

1:27:46

meetings. I have worked in the building

1:27:48

and develop industry in my lifetime 10

1:27:51

15 years. I've dealt with a lot of

1:27:54

developers and attended a lot of public

1:27:56

meetings there at and also uh DP. This

1:28:00

group is very professional and open to

1:28:04

public comment and has done what I

1:28:07

believe is a stellar job. They are

1:28:10

attempting to save a historic property

1:28:13

in the city of Harrisburg that has sat

1:28:15

empty in what in any other city would

1:28:19

have been developed years ago. This is a

1:28:21

jewel that should be developed and these

1:28:24

types of developers should be

1:28:26

encouraged. You heard people say that

1:28:28

they are incorporating business and

1:28:30

minority builders and women. They need

1:28:33

to be the model that the city uses. Last

1:28:36

two weeks ago, I commended council

1:28:39

because I have been here for multiple

1:28:40

meetings where council has asked

1:28:42

developer after developer after

1:28:44

developer, can you? Will you can you

1:28:47

sending letters claiming we've made an

1:28:49

attempt is not getting the ball moved

1:28:53

forward. You have to figure out how to

1:28:56

reward those people who are actually

1:28:57

getting the job done and using minority

1:29:00

and other um youth spreading programs to

1:29:04

help develop a base of operation that is

1:29:07

effective in this city. I also want to

1:29:10

commend this city council. It took a lot

1:29:13

of fortitude for Vice President Jones

1:29:17

and for the rest of you to stand up and

1:29:19

say we are going to challenge if we have

1:29:22

to do it in court an action we believe

1:29:24

is not in the best interest of the

1:29:26

citizens of this state and of this city.

1:29:30

We cannot have government by appoint

1:29:34

whoever we want. If there is a process

1:29:36

that needs to be followed, it has to be

1:29:38

followed. And you as our elected

1:29:40

officials have to take the hard knocks

1:29:43

from the governor, even if you have to,

1:29:45

because we deserve the same degree of

1:29:50

oversight that would be expected in

1:29:52

every other community in this

1:29:54

commonwealth. And if you are fighting

1:29:56

for our behalf, even if it's viewed by

1:29:59

other people as being a backyard brawl,

1:30:02

let them. We know what the truth is. Um

1:30:04

I have heard people say that uh the

1:30:07

governor called into and I'm quoting a

1:30:10

gubanatorial woodshed um members of our

1:30:13

leadership. That is not the case and

1:30:15

that needs to be corrected. And people

1:30:17

need to understand this city is prepared

1:30:19

to work with Governor Shapiro, but we're

1:30:22

also prepared and demanding that you

1:30:24

stand up to ensure that we are

1:30:26

represented adequately and above

1:30:29

adequately. And again, I always manage

1:30:31

to run out of time, but I do want to

1:30:33

speak to the youth programming that is

1:30:37

needed throughout this city. I was at a

1:30:39

meeting last night in Riverside. As uh

1:30:42

I'm going to say, Commissioner Miss

1:30:44

Rolls recognizes, we have been trying to

1:30:46

advocate for a playground in the uh uh

1:30:51

Italian Lake area. There are zero

1:30:54

playgrounds above Division Street. It is

1:30:56

absolutely deplor deplorable. Rude city

1:30:59

employees. Today I called and had

1:31:02

someone parking authority badge number

1:31:04

921 yell at me from her car about

1:31:08

someone whose vehicle was sitting and

1:31:11

has been sitting for two weeks parked

1:31:13

across the sidewalk. It is not. We

1:31:17

deserve the same consideration. I'm

1:31:19

going to say it again and again and

1:31:21

again. And as far as ICE, I was here two

1:31:24

weeks ago and I responded and said, "I

1:31:26

have a law enforcement background and I

1:31:29

am quite willing to adhere to the law,

1:31:32

but I don't live in pre- Nelson Mandela,

1:31:34

South Africa, and you are not going to

1:31:37

compel me or anybody around me to walk

1:31:40

around with identification."

1:31:48

>> Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone

1:31:50

else to my left that would like to offer

1:31:52

public comment?

1:32:02

>> Good evening, council. Libby Profit, 200

1:32:05

block of 20,000 block of Chestnut

1:32:08

Street.

1:32:10

Um, I want to warn you because you may

1:32:13

not have seen it. a strategy that's been

1:32:16

used over time, last 50 years at least,

1:32:22

targeting your melanated self, thinking

1:32:25

that people can come up here and use

1:32:28

Joyce Flo uh Freud,

1:32:31

the late Mandela's

1:32:34

uh and and all these things that

1:32:37

happened

1:32:38

to make you not look at America today

1:32:42

and where we are and where we're

1:32:44

growing. There's veterans that's

1:32:46

homeless. I don't see nobody out there

1:32:48

rallying, protesting or housing them.

1:32:52

But here we are having hours of debate

1:32:56

on illegals, people that came into your

1:32:58

country illegally, living in Maine for

1:33:01

two years, no rent, no utilities. These

1:33:05

people are not paying nothing.

1:33:08

And you can't even get medical. You

1:33:10

can't get health care. You can't get

1:33:11

child care. But illegals are taking your

1:33:14

benefits,

1:33:16

right? Oh, you don't have to listen, but

1:33:18

I I listen to you because I'm conscious

1:33:21

enough, too.

1:33:23

I'm educated enough, too. I don't have

1:33:26

to join the masses. There's people that

1:33:29

don't even like this flag, BUT WANTS ALL

1:33:32

THE BENEFITS THAT GOES UNDER THIS FLAG.

1:33:36

THAT FLAG DIDN'T EXIST WHEN uh what's

1:33:39

her name?

1:33:41

Pocahontas was sleeping with the white

1:33:44

man. THAT FLAG DIDN'T EXIST THEN.

1:33:48

But here we are degrading that flag and

1:33:51

everything it stand for and all THE

1:33:53

BENEFITS THAT COMES WITH BEING IN

1:33:55

AMERICA

1:33:57

DEFENDING PEOPLE THAT JUMP THE borders

1:34:01

illegally.

1:34:03

And there's VETERANS HOMELESS IN THE

1:34:05

COLD.

1:34:08

>> THIS IS AMERICA. EXCUSE ME. NOW, WHEN

1:34:10

YOU SPOKE, I SAT AND I LISTENED.

1:34:13

>> Excuse me.

1:34:13

>> THE SAME WAY AS I SERVED FOR YOU to come

1:34:17

here.

1:34:20

>> Excuse me. Hold on. Please don't

1:34:22

interrupt other people when they're

1:34:24

speaking. Thank you. Please continue.

1:34:27

>> ICE was invited to Harrisburg. He has

1:34:30

documented intelligence of what was

1:34:33

going on. all of those CONSTRUCTIONS

1:34:35

THAT WAS NOT BEING GIVEN TO LOCALS. ICE

1:34:38

HAS documented

1:34:40

intelligence. They're not just here.

1:34:43

And if you have evidence to give

1:34:45

counsel, give name dates, give evidence.

1:34:48

Don't come with Minnesota cuz Minnesota,

1:34:50

THEY'RE THEY'RE WAVING THE SOMALIAN

1:34:52

FLAGS.

1:34:55

They're not waving the American flags.

1:34:59

Stop using people's melanated skin to

1:35:02

come and talk about George Floyd and and

1:35:05

all the other things that happened. Stop

1:35:07

using the terror. You know, Anne Frank

1:35:10

had her diary. DID ANYONE Y'ALL READ IT?

1:35:12

YOU COME up here talking Holocaust

1:35:14

stuff.

1:35:16

You've read it. I'm sure you did. You

1:35:18

were well educated.

1:35:21

Well, let's not come here and just

1:35:22

deframe America, deframe ICE.

1:35:26

Without law, there is no order. There

1:35:29

are federal agents doing their job. When

1:35:32

you have somebody crash your vehicle,

1:35:35

break into your house, who you call? You

1:35:37

don't call a crackhead.

1:35:39

>> You call 911. So, respect them. At least

1:35:44

the ones that doing their jobs.

1:35:48

Thank you.

1:35:50

>> Thank you. Is there anyone else to my

1:35:52

left that would like to offer public

1:35:53

comment?

1:36:03

Good evening, city council. Good

1:36:04

evening. Um, everybody stay warm.

1:36:09

Um,

1:36:12

>> the still river is still running.

1:36:14

>> Um, we we've got we've got a lot going

1:36:17

on. We've got a lot going. I'm gonna try

1:36:20

to sum it up, but it starts at the top.

1:36:23

It starts at the top and the top is the

1:36:25

Civil War Museum. Okay? It's about

1:36:28

respect.

1:36:29

It's about who died for us to be free.

1:36:32

And if we don't teach our children

1:36:34

through that curriculum,

1:36:37

they won't understand.

1:36:39

And we will repeat slavery all over

1:36:42

again. We won. We won the Civil War and

1:36:45

we still don't know how to treat our

1:36:46

people. You want us all to be in chains

1:36:49

again? Did you go by the Civil War? the

1:36:51

curriculum. You want to teach the kids

1:36:53

so a curriculum they don't even we don't

1:36:56

even have that curriculum in our

1:36:57

schools. Take the kids up to the top of

1:37:00

the hill. That's where the knowledge is.

1:37:02

And then it flows down. It's not trying

1:37:05

to get li uh eliminate the Civil War

1:37:08

museum. That's that's what we need to

1:37:10

learn.

1:37:11

We need to readress how we treat each

1:37:14

other. Don't laugh when I'm talking. I

1:37:16

know.

1:37:18

I know how what the war what the cost

1:37:20

was for freedom for me to be laughed at.

1:37:23

It's crazy.

1:37:25

It's crazy. In Gettysburg, 51,000 died.

1:37:30

That's more than the population of

1:37:32

Harrisburg.

1:37:35

They wanted Harrisburg. And if they

1:37:37

would have got Harrisburg, it would be

1:37:39

different.

1:37:41

Know what Harrisburg stands for.

1:37:44

get the pride that we deserve. Treat

1:37:47

people don't laugh at me. I'm good.

1:37:50

I'm a man of war.

1:37:52

And I know what the cost was.

1:37:56

It wasn't the laugh at me. Lewis, but

1:38:01

it wasn't about that.

1:38:04

I would fight and I fought

1:38:06

and I will fight again.

1:38:09

But when the kids are the when the kids

1:38:11

are the end result because they don't

1:38:13

have programming,

1:38:16

they come up there, they learn and they

1:38:17

learn how what what a gun will do and

1:38:21

what chains are.

1:38:24

But Harrisburg school district, we don't

1:38:26

give them that curriculum.

1:38:29

It's very important. It's very

1:38:31

important.

1:38:34

We got the farm show.

1:38:38

It's the second largest um fishing boat

1:38:42

in the world.

1:38:44

That's an economic engine.

1:38:47

There's over 400 retail slots and it's

1:38:51

happening in our house and nobody sells

1:38:56

a fishing rod in the city.

1:39:00

We need economic development. Let's use

1:39:02

that as l as leverage to get dignity and

1:39:06

pride. Let's get some people in that

1:39:09

show that that can make some money. The

1:39:13

kids entrepreneurism.

1:39:16

We got the farm show. They don't even

1:39:17

know how to ride a horse. I know how to

1:39:20

ride a horse.

1:39:22

I know how to ride a bull, too.

1:39:25

But so you're going to you're going to

1:39:27

be laughing anyway.

1:39:30

Can you ride a bull? I don't think so. I

1:39:34

don't think so. I don't think so. But

1:39:36

that's not my point. My point is that we

1:39:39

got we got the history right on top of

1:39:41

our heel.

1:39:43

The national civil that's Smithsonian.

1:39:46

Get it in our curriculum. Get some pride

1:39:48

about ourselves. Raise the flags of the

1:39:51

union.

1:39:52

Get some visuals

1:39:55

that everybody can when ICE comes to

1:39:57

town and they see how many flags we got

1:39:59

flying that nobody else can fly in the

1:40:01

country in the world. Maybe they get a

1:40:04

little understanding that don't push us

1:40:06

around.

1:40:08

>> We got to do something else that nobody

1:40:11

else does.

1:40:12

>> Thank you.

1:40:12

>> We are Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

1:40:14

>> Thank you for your comments.

1:40:19

>> Thank you. We will move forward with our

1:40:21

meeting agenda. Next, we have the

1:40:23

approval of the minutes. Oh, I'm sorry.

1:40:26

Oh, I'm sorry. I missed you.

1:40:30

Okay.

1:40:37

First of all, let me introduce myself.

1:40:39

My name is Pete White. I've been in

1:40:42

business in this town for 40 years. I

1:40:44

had one of the largest construction

1:40:46

companies here. We retrofitted schools.

1:40:48

We built churches, yada yada yada. I had

1:40:51

40 employees and we instituted a

1:40:54

training program even then at Harris.

1:40:57

However,

1:41:00

my problem right now with city council

1:41:02

is this.

1:41:05

If you are supposed to be the vanguard

1:41:07

for the city, you've been voted in. What

1:41:10

that means is that you're looking out

1:41:13

for the home front. You're looking out

1:41:15

for all the citizens here. Right now,

1:41:17

I'm going to speak about the black and

1:41:19

brown citizens particularly, which have

1:41:22

been under represented.

1:41:24

the construction companies

1:41:27

that I see and I've gone around to every

1:41:29

one of these jobs from the Broad Street

1:41:31

Market 18th in her the park ever. By the

1:41:37

way, I have a degree in microbiology and

1:41:39

associate degree in civil engineering. I

1:41:42

used to be the civil engineering

1:41:43

inspector for the for the uh the pipes

1:41:46

and so forth going through the city. See

1:41:49

Derry Street from 13th to 18th home and

1:41:52

so forth. Now you're looking at some of

1:41:54

the prospects that I was over to make

1:41:56

sure they're right. But the problem here

1:41:58

is city council has neglected the one

1:42:02

thing you need to be about and that's

1:42:04

leveling the economic playing field in

1:42:06

this city. You have a number of

1:42:09

contractors coming in here from all over

1:42:12

majority contractors.

1:42:14

What protocol have you told them that

1:42:16

they need to abide by for inclusion?

1:42:19

I've been here through a couple meetings

1:42:21

sitting here and so forth. I've heard

1:42:23

nothing. That word was never used.

1:42:26

It should have been the first thing

1:42:27

because the first when we started

1:42:31

implementing business in this city in

1:42:33

1988, myself and three other individuals

1:42:36

put together a protocol which city

1:42:40

council at that time which composed

1:42:42

mostly lawyers ratified

1:42:45

to the tune that wherever something is

1:42:47

done on city land or the inclusion of

1:42:51

city funds

1:42:53

that the contractors

1:42:55

had to abide by an inclusion of 25%.

1:43:00

I'm not talking about hours. I'm talking

1:43:02

about literal dollars of that contract.

1:43:04

It started with the Hilton. This is

1:43:06

where we came in and had the the meeting

1:43:09

in agreement with that. And as such, we

1:43:12

had an organization and we had 29 29

1:43:17

black contractor companies over there.

1:43:20

What you don't seem to recognize with

1:43:22

this is this.

1:43:24

This is another form of income. You have

1:43:28

a lot of qualified contractors. We've

1:43:31

had several meetings here.

1:43:33

Dena has had these meetings which I find

1:43:36

very enlightening and all the assistance

1:43:38

I can give her to bring it up to speed.

1:43:41

The fact of the matter is

1:43:44

if they're going to come to Harrisburg,

1:43:48

if they're going to come to Harrisburg

1:43:51

because they want to exploit

1:43:55

the residuals here that we have and the

1:43:57

assets in terms of what's going on for

1:43:59

business here,

1:44:01

then they have to know that there's a

1:44:03

certain protocol to do business in

1:44:05

Harrisburg,

1:44:06

just like it is if we go campill

1:44:10

or somewhere else which we are rarely

1:44:12

invited by these contractors. And I'm

1:44:15

speaking of gym construction.

1:44:19

I'm speaking of the contractor down here

1:44:23

at the uh Poly Clinic. I'm speaking of

1:44:27

Alexander.

1:44:29

They are major minimalizing

1:44:32

non-inclusionary companies.

1:44:35

I've had meetings with them.

1:44:38

You might as well be an alien

1:44:42

if you think you're going to work a

1:44:43

contract with that. And I'm also a

1:44:44

professional estimator, so don't blame

1:44:47

me. If you know anybody,

1:44:51

Fred Clark, anybody, you asking who Pete

1:44:53

White is. We made changes.

1:44:55

>> Thank you for your comment, Mr. White.

1:44:57

>> Come up.

1:44:58

>> Thank you for your comment.

1:44:59

>> Mr. White, can you please share your

1:45:00

address or the vicinity in which you

1:45:02

live? It's strictly for the meeting

1:45:03

record.

1:45:05

I'm over on I'm on south side of

1:45:07

Harrisburg.

1:45:08

>> Okay. Thank you. Is there anyone else

1:45:11

that would like to offer public comment?

1:45:12

I don't want to miss anyone else. Okay.

1:45:15

Seeing and hearing no one, we will move

1:45:17

forward. Oh,

1:45:20

I'm sorry.

1:45:22

You can have you can offer public

1:45:24

comment.

1:45:26

>> And if you can give us a couple minutes.

1:45:28

>> No.

1:45:32

>> No, we don't.

1:45:38

Yes, there will be more co public

1:45:42

comment. We do have a work session after

1:45:44

this meeting. The legislative session is

1:45:46

where your comments will be added to the

1:45:47

meeting record just for everybody's

1:45:49

reference. Next, we have the approval of

1:45:52

minutes for the legislative session that

1:45:53

occurred on January 13, 2026. Council

1:45:57

members, are there any revisions to

1:45:59

those meeting minutes?

1:46:01

Okay, seeing hearing none, the minutes

1:46:02

stand approved. We will now move forward

1:46:05

with with reports of committees. The

1:46:08

first report will be delivered by our

1:46:10

budget and finance committee chair, vice

1:46:13

president Jones on the work session of

1:46:16

January 20th, 2026.

1:46:19

>> Thank you.

1:46:20

On January 20th, 2026, the budget and

1:46:23

finance committee held a work session

1:46:25

where we discussed resolution three of

1:46:27

2026, a resolution approving the first

1:46:30

proposed 2026 budget reallocation

1:46:34

uh in order to authorize the roll

1:46:36

forward

1:46:37

of certain 2025 budget year incumbr uh

1:46:41

commitments and to reaffirm certain 2025

1:46:44

capital projects and program

1:46:46

appropriation.

1:46:48

Present to discuss resolution three of

1:46:51

2026 was Brian McCutchen and Robert

1:46:53

Kenn. We discussed resolution three, a

1:46:56

budget reallocation to roll forward

1:46:58

2025's budget and cumber commitments and

1:47:02

how the general fund is the and we also

1:47:05

talked about how the uh general fund is

1:47:07

the biggest piece of this action and how

1:47:10

most of it if not all of the budget

1:47:12

units

1:47:14

um are affected by this actions. 19.7

1:47:18

million is the roll forward amount from

1:47:20

the general fund and is an extremely

1:47:22

high amount due to the broad street

1:47:24

market expedential line under

1:47:26

facilities. 16.5 million of the 19.7

1:47:31

is about 84% of the total request. So

1:47:34

basically what is happening is the money

1:47:37

that was uh budgeted in 2025

1:47:40

um the remaining still needs to be

1:47:42

utilized in 2026 for contracts and

1:47:44

projects that still needs to be funded

1:47:46

with this rema with these remaining

1:47:48

dollars. Questions asked by council

1:47:51

council pretty much thanks the finance

1:47:53

department for a thorough presentation.

1:47:55

Councilman Rodriguez asks about the

1:47:57

remaining funds from the trash release

1:47:59

program asking if those funds 1.4 4

1:48:02

million were a part of the roll forward

1:48:04

funds from public works. Mr. McCutchen

1:48:06

clarified that those funds were from the

1:48:09

capital projects funds and that the roll

1:48:11

forward request was a little over

1:48:13

500,000 from the neighborhood services

1:48:16

funds for the new year. Um and that will

1:48:18

conclude the report from the budget and

1:48:20

finance committee.

1:48:22

>> Thank you, Vice President Jones. The

1:48:24

next report will be delivered by our

1:48:27

community and economic development

1:48:29

committee chair, Councilman Lawson, on

1:48:31

the work session of January 20th, 2026.

1:48:36

During the January 20th uh 2026

1:48:40

Harrisburg City Council work session,

1:48:43

the Community and Econ economic

1:48:44

development committee reviewed

1:48:46

resolution 4 of 2026, which proposes the

1:48:50

approval of the preliminary and final

1:48:53

land development plan for 1332 North

1:48:56

Second Street. The project submitted by

1:49:00

Adam Brenamman of Brenamman Properties

1:49:02

LLC focused on the adaptive reuse of a

1:49:05

former former funeral home um in Midtown

1:49:09

Harrisburg. The proposal seeks to

1:49:11

convert um the vacant portion of a

1:49:15

commercial space previously occupied by

1:49:17

a funeral home into eight new

1:49:19

residential units, expanding an existing

1:49:22

fiveunit apartment building to a total

1:49:25

of 13 multif family units. The property

1:49:28

includes a large off- streetet parking

1:49:30

lot with approximately 35 spaces

1:49:33

ensuring adequate parking for residents

1:49:35

and visitors.

1:49:38

Hold on.

1:49:43

The Harrisburg Planning Commission

1:49:45

recommended the approval of the pro of

1:49:47

the project and conditions and these

1:49:50

include review of any exterior

1:49:53

alterations by the city's historic

1:49:55

preservation specialist with additional

1:49:58

approvals as required, coordination with

1:50:01

the Department of Public Works regarding

1:50:03

refuge container placement, um screening

1:50:06

and access, consideration of

1:50:08

consolidating refuge storage within an

1:50:11

existing carport along the uh street

1:50:14

frontage. The commission cited the

1:50:17

project's responsible design and

1:50:19

compatibility with surrounding

1:50:20

neighborhood.

1:50:25

Council and staff highlighted uh several

1:50:28

uh municipal benefits of the pro of the

1:50:30

project, including productive reuse of

1:50:33

vacant and underutilized building space,

1:50:35

increased housing supply in Midtown,

1:50:38

which can help stabilize housing costs,

1:50:41

activism, act um excuse me, activation

1:50:44

of the street and support for nearby

1:50:48

businesses through um residential

1:50:50

occupancy and adequate off- streetet

1:50:52

parking that minimizes neighborhood

1:50:54

impact.

1:50:55

Um, Michael White, director of

1:50:57

acquisitions and development for

1:50:59

Brenamman Group, provided additional

1:51:01

details on the project, noting that the

1:51:03

8,500 square foot building includes

1:51:06

approximately 5,000 square ft of former

1:51:08

former commercial space. He confirmed

1:51:11

that financing is in place uh with a

1:51:14

project construction loan um closing by

1:51:17

the end of March and an estimated

1:51:19

8-month construction period and subse

1:51:22

subsequent lease up. Council members

1:51:24

raised several key topics about during

1:51:27

the discussion about economic inclusion.

1:51:30

Council emphasized the importance of

1:51:32

engaging local minority and womenowned

1:51:34

contractors. The developer expressed

1:51:36

openness to referrals and a commitment

1:51:38

to expanding local participation where

1:51:41

possible and environmental safety. The

1:51:44

developer expressed concerns related to

1:51:47

the the former use and confirming that

1:51:51

adequate environmental assessment has

1:51:53

been completed and that the regulatory

1:51:55

process are being followed to safe

1:51:57

conversion and the job creation. The

1:52:00

property is expected to generate

1:52:01

approximately 15 construction related

1:52:04

jobs primarily through skilled

1:52:06

subcontractors.

1:52:08

In lighting and safety, council

1:52:11

underscored the importance of effective

1:52:13

lighting and overall site safety. The

1:52:15

developer indicated that lighting in the

1:52:18

facade improvements remain under review

1:52:21

to ensure a safe and welcoming

1:52:24

environment.

1:52:27

We on January 20, 26 work session,

1:52:31

Harrisburg City Council and the

1:52:34

community of um and excuse me, community

1:52:36

and economic development has also

1:52:39

reviewed um resolution five of 2026,

1:52:44

which seeks the approval of the

1:52:46

preliminary and final land development

1:52:49

plan for 2601 North Third Street,

1:52:52

Building One, as part of phase two of

1:52:55

the Poly Clinic Hospital campus

1:52:57

redevelopment. The proposal involves the

1:53:01

adaptive reuse of a long vacant hospital

1:53:04

building into a mixeduse development

1:53:06

that will bring new life for residents

1:53:09

and services surrounding the

1:53:10

neighborhood. The project includes

1:53:12

approximately

1:53:14

130 new residential units ranging from

1:53:17

studio to two-bedroom apartments, street

1:53:19

level commercial and retail space with

1:53:22

plans underway to attract a locallyowned

1:53:24

grocery store and other neighborhood

1:53:26

serving businesses. Use of existing

1:53:29

parking garage and surface lots provide

1:53:32

ample off- streetet parking. Flexible

1:53:35

space reserved for future phases of

1:53:37

development.

1:53:39

and the Harrisburg Planning Commission

1:53:42

recommended approval of the project,

1:53:44

citing its thoughtful reuse of a large

1:53:46

vacant structure, minimal traffic

1:53:48

impacts, um, compared to the building's

1:53:51

former use and the potential to

1:53:53

stimulate additional investment in the

1:53:55

Midtown area,

1:53:57

uptown area, excuse me. Condition of

1:53:59

approval focus on uh pedestrian

1:54:02

accessibility

1:54:04

um refuge management, bicycle parking

1:54:06

and compliance with signage and

1:54:08

accessibility standards.

1:54:11

Council members expressed strong support

1:54:13

for the project and highlighted several

1:54:15

key priorities. um neighborhood

1:54:18

engagement with multiple community

1:54:20

meetings scheduled to gather resident

1:54:22

input, economic inclusion, including the

1:54:25

use of local, minority, and womenowned

1:54:28

contractors, public safety and quality

1:54:31

of life. Noting that occupied, well-lit,

1:54:33

mixeduse development helps reduce blight

1:54:36

and improve neighborhood safety, housing

1:54:39

affordability, particularly for working

1:54:41

in middle inome residents, and access to

1:54:44

healthy food, emphasizing the importance

1:54:47

of a grocery option um for the

1:54:49

surrounding community. The applicant

1:54:51

also provided updates for on phase one

1:54:54

of the redevelopment, noting active

1:54:57

construction progress towards historic

1:54:59

track tax credits and continued

1:55:02

coordination with city departments.

1:55:06

Following discussion, city council

1:55:08

advanced this resolution to our

1:55:10

legislative session. And that concludes

1:55:13

the business of the community and

1:55:15

economic development. Thank you.

1:55:18

>> Thank you, Councilman Lawson. The next

1:55:20

report you will hear will be delivered

1:55:22

uh by our parks, recreation, and

1:55:25

enrichment committee chair, Councilwoman

1:55:27

Ross, on the work session of January

1:55:29

20th, 2026.

1:55:32

Thank you, President Hill. Good evening,

1:55:34

everyone.

1:55:37

On January 20th, 2026, the Parks,

1:55:40

Recreation, and Enrichment Committee met

1:55:42

to discuss resolution two of 2026, a

1:55:47

resolution authorizing the city of

1:55:49

Harrisburg to negotiate and enter into a

1:55:51

professional service agreement with

1:55:53

Flora Teter Landscape Architects

1:55:56

Incorporated to provide landscape

1:55:58

architectural services for Vernon Street

1:56:01

Park and playground located at 15th and

1:56:04

Vernon Streets.

1:56:06

Deputy Director Ross and Mr. Saunders

1:56:09

from the parks and recreation and

1:56:11

enrichment department were present to

1:56:13

provide council with additional

1:56:14

information. They explained that the

1:56:16

primary purpose of this agreement is to

1:56:19

secure professional design services that

1:56:22

will allow the department to pursue

1:56:24

future grant funding. In order to apply

1:56:26

for these grants, the city must first

1:56:28

submit a formal architectural concept

1:56:30

and design plan for the proposed

1:56:32

playground improvements. Floral Teeter

1:56:36

Landscape Architects was selected to

1:56:38

prepare these designs. The department

1:56:40

noted that the firm specializes in

1:56:43

improving park functionality, enhancing

1:56:46

rec recreational spaces, maximizing

1:56:49

small urban areas, and ensuring

1:56:52

inclusive and accessible design for all

1:56:55

residents. Their proposal was also the

1:56:57

lowest responsible bid totaling $19,500

1:57:02

for the park concept plan.

1:57:05

The anticipated project timeline runs

1:57:07

from January through May and will

1:57:10

include two community engagement

1:57:12

meetings to gather resident input and

1:57:14

ensure the final design reflects

1:57:16

neighborhood needs. Questions my fellow

1:57:19

council members raised were as follows.

1:57:23

Were they chosen because they were the

1:57:25

lowest bidder or because of experience?

1:57:27

Mr. Saunders responded that cost was a

1:57:30

primary factor in the selection.

1:57:32

However, the firm's prior experience and

1:57:35

history of submitting proposals on pass

1:57:37

city projects were also considered. He

1:57:40

added that the department strives to

1:57:42

distribute opportunities among qualified

1:57:44

bidding firms and this time Floret was

1:57:48

selected.

1:57:49

Can you expand and provide more

1:57:51

information on the timelines for the

1:57:53

seventh and Rner reservoir? Radner

1:57:56

reservoir gorgus and Wilson projects.

1:57:59

Mr. Saunders responded that those

1:58:01

projects have been extended with an

1:58:03

anticipated completion date of March

1:58:06

3rd, 2026.

1:58:08

Do you believe that that is a

1:58:10

responsible or reasonable time frame?

1:58:13

Mr. Saunders stated that the department

1:58:15

believes the proposed timeline is

1:58:17

responsible.

1:58:19

Is the parks and recreation department

1:58:21

working in collaboration with the public

1:58:23

works department to pave the alleyways

1:58:25

across from the Vernon Street playground

1:58:27

due to safety concerns? Miss Rash

1:58:30

responded that they will con coordinate

1:58:32

with Director West and ensure the matter

1:58:34

is addressed and placed on the radar.

1:58:37

Are there any updates on the Hall Manor

1:58:39

pool? Mr. Sonners responded that the

1:58:41

department is waiting the completion and

1:58:44

an and expansion of a scientific finding

1:58:47

report to to confir confirm that a pool

1:58:51

can be safely constructed on the site.

1:58:53

The report is expected to be returned in

1:58:56

the first quarter. And lastly, if

1:58:59

awarded, will the grant for the Vernon

1:59:01

Street playground also cover a new wall

1:59:03

or fence? Mr. Saunders responded that

1:59:06

the grant would support improvements to

1:59:08

help revamp the entire park. He noted

1:59:10

that multiple grants will likely be

1:59:12

needed, but this would serve as an

1:59:14

important first step. I respectfully ask

1:59:17

for your support on this resolution as

1:59:20

we continue working to upgrade and

1:59:22

invest in parks across the city of

1:59:24

Harrisburg. This concludes the report of

1:59:27

the parks, recreation, and enrichment

1:59:29

committee. Thank you.

1:59:30

>> Thank you, Councilwoman Ross. The final

1:59:33

committee report this evening will be

1:59:34

delivered by our public safety committee

1:59:37

chair uh Councilwoman Green on the work

1:59:40

session of January 20th, 2026.

1:59:43

>> Thank you, President Bowers, President

1:59:45

Hill, excuse me. During the work session

1:59:47

of January 20th, 2026, the public safety

1:59:50

committee met to discuss resolution one

1:59:52

of 2026, uh a resolution authorizing the

1:59:55

city of Harrisburg to negotiate and

1:59:56

enter into a professional service

1:59:58

agreement with WCA public safety

2:00:01

assessment for the purpose of providing

2:00:03

psychological testing and assessment for

2:00:06

the city's Bureau of Police. This would

2:00:08

keep needed psychological testing and

2:00:10

assessment in place for our police

2:00:12

department. Uh, and the fees for the

2:00:14

2026 years are as follows. For the

2:00:16

postcond conditional offer,

2:00:18

psychological evaluation is $425.

2:00:21

Promotional evaluation is $425.

2:00:23

The fitness of duty evaluation is $300

2:00:26

per hour. The wellness visit is $250.

2:00:29

The PTSD evaluation is $525

2:00:33

and the specialized service evaluation

2:00:35

for SWAT, hostage, negotiator, or K9

2:00:37

unit is $425.

2:00:40

Uh, I do ask my colleagues to support

2:00:41

this resolution. That concludes my

2:00:43

report. Thank you.

2:00:44

>> Thank you, Councilwoman Green.

2:00:47

We do not have any ordinances for first

2:00:50

me reading, excuse me, ordinances for

2:00:52

amendment or ordinances for final

2:00:55

passage. We will move forward with our

2:00:58

resolutions.

2:01:02

I'll begin with those that are being

2:01:06

referred to committee and the table

2:01:08

resolution. Resolution

2:01:11

three of 2026. Mr. Trudeau, could you

2:01:14

just read it into the record? It will be

2:01:15

tabled, but just for everybody's

2:01:17

reference.

2:01:18

>> Resolution 3, 2026, a resolution, a

2:01:21

resolution approving the first proposed

2:01:23

2026 budget reallocation in order to

2:01:26

authorize the roll forward of certain

2:01:28

2025 budget year encumbered commitments

2:01:30

and to reaffirm certain 2025 capital

2:01:33

project and program appropriations.

2:01:36

>> Thank you. As I mentioned during our

2:01:38

legislative caucus, resolution 3 of 2026

2:01:42

will be tabled uh this evening. Uh I'm

2:01:45

going to continue with the referrals

2:01:47

since we're here. Resolution 6 of 2026.

2:01:50

Mr. Trudeell, could you please read it

2:01:52

into the record? Resolution 6, 2026, a

2:01:55

resolution ratifying a Commonwealth of

2:01:57

Pennsylvania Department of

2:01:58

Transportation Green Light GO grant

2:02:01

application and authorizing the city of

2:02:03

Harrisburg to execute any agreements,

2:02:05

forms, and documents related to the

2:02:07

award of 387

2:02:10

$38

2:02:12

to update traffic signal equipment with

2:02:15

the Allison Hill neighborhood.

2:02:17

>> Thank you. Resolution six of 2026 will

2:02:20

move to the public works committee. Next

2:02:22

we have resolution 7 of 2026. Mr.

2:02:25

Trudale, could you please read it into

2:02:27

the record?

2:02:28

>> Resolution 7, 2026, a resolution

2:02:30

authorizing the city of Harrisburg to

2:02:32

negotiate and enter into a professional

2:02:34

services agreement with Elizabeth

2:02:36

Sherber to provide sign language

2:02:38

interpretation services.

2:02:40

>> Thank you. Resolution 7 of 2026 will

2:02:43

move to the administration committee.

2:02:45

Next, we have resolution 8 of 2026. Mr.

2:02:48

Trudale, could you please read it into

2:02:50

the record? Resolution 8, 2026, a

2:02:53

resolution authorizing the city of

2:02:54

Harrisburg to negotiate and enter into a

2:02:56

professional services agreement with

2:02:58

Joshua Bar to provide sign language

2:03:01

interpretation services.

2:03:03

>> Thank you. Resolution 8 of 2026 will

2:03:06

also move to the administration

2:03:08

committee. Our final resolution this

2:03:10

evening is resolution 9 of 2026. Mr.

2:03:13

Trudeelle, could you please read it into

2:03:15

the record? Resolution 9, 2026, a

2:03:17

resolution authorizing the submission of

2:03:19

a grant application to the United States

2:03:21

Department of Transportation, better

2:03:23

utilizing investments to leverage

2:03:25

development grant program for up to $3

2:03:27

million to improve safety within four

2:03:30

roadway corridors to include Division

2:03:32

Street, North 6th Street, Marcus Street,

2:03:34

and South 17th Street.

2:03:36

>> Thank you. Resolution 9 of 2026 will

2:03:40

also move to the public works committee.

2:03:44

So, we will go back to resolution one of

2:03:46

2026. Mr. Trudeale, could you please

2:03:49

read it into the record?

2:03:52

>> Resolution 1, 2026, a resolution

2:03:54

authorizing the city of Harrisburg to

2:03:56

negotiate and enter into a professional

2:03:58

services agreement

2:04:00

with WCA public safety assessments for

2:04:03

the purpose of providing psychological

2:04:04

testing and assessment for the city's

2:04:06

Bureau of Police.

2:04:08

>> Thank you. Council members, are there

2:04:09

any final questions, comments, or

2:04:11

concerns related to resolution one of

2:04:14

2026?

2:04:16

>> Okay, seeing hearing none, Mr. Trudale,

2:04:18

could you please call the vote?

2:04:19

>> Miss Davis,

2:04:20

>> yes.

2:04:21

>> Miss Green,

2:04:22

>> yes.

2:04:23

>> Mr. Jones,

2:04:24

>> yay.

2:04:26

>> Mr. Len,

2:04:27

>> yes.

2:04:28

>> Miss Rolls,

2:04:29

>> yes.

2:04:30

>> Mr. Rodriguez,

2:04:31

>> yes.

2:04:32

>> Miss Hill,

2:04:33

>> yes.

2:04:34

>> Resolution 1, 2026 passes by vote of

2:04:37

seven to zero.

2:04:38

Thank you. Next, we have resolution two

2:04:41

of 2026. Mr. Trudale, could you please

2:04:44

read it into the record?

2:04:45

>> Resolution 2, 2026, a resolution

2:04:48

authorizing the city of Harrisburg to

2:04:50

negotiate and enter into a professional

2:04:52

services agreement with Flora Teter

2:04:54

Landscape Architects Incorporated to

2:04:56

provide landscape architectural services

2:04:58

for Vernon Street Park and playground

2:05:00

located at 15th Street and Vernon

2:05:02

Street.

2:05:03

>> Thank you. Council members, are there

2:05:05

any final questions, comments, or

2:05:07

concerns related to resolution 2 of

2:05:10

2026? Seeing and hearing none, Mr.

2:05:12

Trudale, could you please call the vote?

2:05:14

>> Miss Davis,

2:05:15

>> yes.

2:05:16

>> Miss Green,

2:05:18

>> yes.

2:05:19

>> Mr. Jones,

2:05:20

>> yay.

2:05:21

>> Mr. Lolen,

2:05:22

>> yes.

2:05:24

>> Miss Rolls,

2:05:25

>> yes.

2:05:26

>> Mr. Rodriguez,

2:05:27

>> yes.

2:05:28

>> Miss Hill,

2:05:29

>> yes.

2:05:29

>> Resolution 2, 2026 passes by vote of 7

2:05:32

to zero.

2:05:34

Thank you. Resolution 4 of 2026. Mr.

2:05:38

Trudeale, could you please read it into

2:05:40

the record?

2:05:42

Resolution

2:05:45

4, 2026, a resolution approving the

2:05:47

preliminary/final land development plan

2:05:50

for 1332 North Second Street submitted

2:05:53

by Adam Brenamman of Brenamman

2:05:54

Properties LLC to expand the existing

2:05:57

non-conforming multifamily dwelling use

2:06:00

on site by converting space occupied by

2:06:02

the former funeral home and associated

2:06:04

site and access improvements.

2:06:06

>> Thank you. Council members, are there

2:06:08

any final questions, comments, or

2:06:10

concerns related to resolution 4 of

2:06:13

2026?

2:06:15

I have one comment. Um, the applicant

2:06:18

shared that of the eight new units,

2:06:23

approximately two, uh, would be deemed

2:06:27

approved or affordable for our residents

2:06:30

if the applicant was interested in the

2:06:32

affordable housing uh, program. um they

2:06:35

indicated that they are not for this

2:06:38

particular project due to the financing.

2:06:41

So as a result I will be a no vote on

2:06:44

this resolution. Mr. Trudeale, could you

2:06:47

please call the vote?

2:06:48

>> Miss Davis?

2:06:49

>> Yes.

2:06:51

>> Miss Green?

2:06:52

>> Yes.

2:06:53

>> Mr. Jones?

2:06:55

>> Yay.

2:06:56

>> Mr. Len,

2:06:58

>> yes.

2:06:59

>> Miss Rolls,

2:07:00

>> yes.

2:07:01

>> Mr. Rodriguez,

2:07:02

>> yes. Miss Hill.

2:07:05

>> No.

2:07:06

>> Resolution 4 2026 passes by vot 6 to1.

2:07:10

>> Thank you. Next we have resolution five

2:07:12

of 2026. Mr. Trudeale, could you please

2:07:16

read it into the record?

2:07:17

>> Resolution 5 2026. A resolution

2:07:20

approving the preliminary land

2:07:22

development plan for 2601 North 3rd

2:07:25

Street, building one submitted by Gregor

2:07:28

Gregory Haloquist of Penmark Harrisburg

2:07:30

Holdings LLC to convert the vacant

2:07:33

hospital building into a mixeduse

2:07:34

building and associated site and access

2:07:36

improvements.

2:07:38

>> Thank you. Council members, are there

2:07:39

any final questions, comments, or

2:07:41

concerns related to resolution five of

2:07:44

2026?

2:07:46

Okay, seeing hearing none, Mr.

2:07:47

Trudeelle, could you please call the

2:07:48

vote? Miss Davis,

2:07:50

>> yes.

2:07:52

>> Miss Green,

2:07:53

>> yes.

2:07:54

>> Mr. Jones,

2:07:55

>> yay.

2:07:56

>> Mr. Lawson,

2:07:57

>> yes.

2:07:58

>> Miss Rolls,

2:07:59

>> yes.

2:08:00

>> Mr. Rodriguez,

2:08:02

>> yes.

2:08:02

>> Miss Hill,

2:08:03

>> yes.

2:08:04

>> Resolution 5, 2026 passes by 7 to zero.

2:08:10

>> Thank you. Uh, council members, is there

2:08:13

any old business for discussion?

2:08:16

I have one note. I just wanted to note

2:08:19

uh the receipt of the fourth quarter

2:08:22

quarterly reports. Please note for

2:08:25

everyone's reference that they um have

2:08:27

been posted to the city's website under

2:08:30

miss ecodes of course under

2:08:33

miscellaneous documents. So I just

2:08:34

wanted to note that. Is there any other

2:08:37

old business? Okay, seeing hearing none,

2:08:40

any new business? Okay, seeing hearing

2:08:42

none, the time is 7:15 p.m. I will

2:08:45

entertain a motion to adjourn our

2:08:47

legislative session.

2:08:48

>> So move.

2:08:49

>> Is there a second?

2:08:50

>> Second.

2:08:50

>> Thank you. We stand adjourn.

2:08:55

>> The time is 7:16

2:08:58

p.m. I would like to call our work

2:09:00

session to order.

2:09:02

Mr. Trudale, could you please call the

2:09:04

role?

2:09:07

>> Miss Davis,

2:09:07

>> present. Miss Green

2:09:12

>> present.

2:09:13

>> Mr. Jones

2:09:14

>> here.

2:09:15

>> Mr. Lson

2:09:17

>> here.

2:09:18

>> Miss Rolls

2:09:19

>> present.

2:09:20

>> Mr. Rodriguez

2:09:21

>> present.

2:09:22

>> Miss Hill

2:09:22

>> present. Thank you. Um I'd like to begin

2:09:25

with the two resolutions

2:09:28

that are before the administration

2:09:30

committee. Resolution 7 of 2026 and

2:09:34

resolution 8 of 2026. Mr. Mr. Trudeale,

2:09:37

could you please read both resolutions

2:09:39

into the record?

2:09:42

>> Resolution 7, 2026, a resolution

2:09:45

authorizing the city of Harrisburg to

2:09:47

negotiate and enter into a professional

2:09:49

services agreement with Elizabeth Sheber

2:09:51

to provide sign language interpretation

2:09:53

services. Resolution 8, 2026, a

2:09:57

resolution authorizing the city of

2:09:58

Harrisburg to negotiate and enter into a

2:10:00

professional services agreement with

2:10:02

Joshua Walker to provide sign language

2:10:05

interpretation services.

2:10:07

>> Thank you. If you guys wouldn't mind

2:10:09

joining us, I know this is a different

2:10:11

side of the table that you're normally

2:10:13

on.

2:10:16

Thank you for joining us. Thank you for

2:10:18

your patience this evening. I just

2:10:20

wanted to remind everybody that um we

2:10:23

are no longer contracting with Houseion

2:10:26

Communication Services and so um you may

2:10:31

have seen these familiar faces uh

2:10:34

through their work. So as a result we

2:10:38

are um individually contracting with the

2:10:41

interpreters so that we can maintain uh

2:10:45

the inclusive service that we are

2:10:47

providing for our residents. So, if you

2:10:49

both wouldn't mind just taking a few

2:10:51

minutes to introduce yourselves, maybe

2:10:53

tell us a little bit about how you um

2:10:58

became interested in sign language

2:11:00

interpretation.

2:11:03

>> Hi, I'm Josh Ber, um a certified sign

2:11:06

language interpreter. I've been working

2:11:08

since 200

2:11:08

>> I'm sorry. Can you move the microphone

2:11:10

closer to you? Thank you.

2:11:12

>> Do I need to start again? Did you hear

2:11:13

me?

2:11:13

>> You can start again. Yes.

2:11:15

>> Hi, Josh Bucker. I'm a certified sign

2:11:17

language interpreter. been working since

2:11:18

2010. Um, yeah, I started in my church

2:11:23

when I was young and really enjoyed it.

2:11:24

Went to Bloomsburg University, got my

2:11:26

degree there, and then from there I got

2:11:28

my certification for the state and then

2:11:29

my national certification.

2:11:32

>> That's awesome.

2:11:34

>> I'm Elizabeth Sheber. Um, I've been

2:11:38

signing since 2016 and I'm also a

2:11:42

certified sign language interpreter. Um,

2:11:45

I

2:11:47

discovered signing in college really and

2:11:50

that I just it just took stuck and I it

2:11:52

took off from there. Yeah.

2:11:54

>> Awesome. Thank you. Well, I'm familiar

2:11:57

with your work so I really don't have a

2:11:58

lot of questions. The these are just the

2:12:00

formalities that we have to go through.

2:12:02

So, I will open the floor to my

2:12:04

colleagues who may have some additional

2:12:05

questions for you. Um, I will begin with

2:12:08

Councilman Lawson. Any questions?

2:12:11

>> Thank you, President Hill. No questions.

2:12:13

just want to thank you for your service.

2:12:15

Um it's very important to make um uh

2:12:19

these meetings as accessible as as

2:12:21

possible and as someone who who goes to

2:12:25

the gym and watches closed caption, I

2:12:26

know you cannot always rely on that

2:12:29

being accurate or or correct when when

2:12:32

uh looking at the the meeting. So your

2:12:34

service is something that is desperately

2:12:36

needed for a lot of our residents. So we

2:12:38

we thank you.

2:12:40

>> Thank you, Councilwoman Ross. Any

2:12:43

questions?

2:12:44

>> Good evening to you both. Um, I don't

2:12:46

have any questions. I've seen your work.

2:12:49

Um, I just really want to thank you all

2:12:51

for coming in and allowing us to um give

2:12:54

this type of inclusionality to our um

2:12:57

our residents who this really services.

2:13:00

So, just thank you for being

2:13:01

professional in the way that you um do

2:13:04

give your services and just thank you

2:13:06

for doing that.

2:13:08

>> Thank you, Councilman Rodriguez. Any

2:13:10

questions?

2:13:11

>> Thank you, Madam President. Thank you

2:13:12

both for joining us this evening as

2:13:14

always and giving us your few words on

2:13:16

why you do what you do and your passion.

2:13:18

Um I've been at home on many meetings

2:13:20

and witnessed you doing what you do and

2:13:21

it looks magnificent. So I I wouldn't

2:13:24

I'd be lying if I said I didn't try to

2:13:25

keep up with it from time to time but I

2:13:28

um I guess my question may be to either

2:13:30

madam president or legal. What was the

2:13:32

main reason we won't be going through uh

2:13:34

was it houseion and going more direct?

2:13:36

>> They decided they weren't interested in

2:13:38

contracting. There's no no bad Yeah. No

2:13:41

bad blood, nothing. I just chose not to

2:13:43

anymore.

2:13:44

>> Just curious. But thank you both for all

2:13:45

you do and I look forward to many more

2:13:48

uh sessions with you guys in front of

2:13:49

the camera. Thank you.

2:13:51

>> Thank you, Councilwoman Davis. Any

2:13:53

questions?

2:13:54

>> Uh thank you, President Hill. Um no, no

2:13:57

questions. U Mr. Bogger

2:14:01

>> and Miss Sheber, thank you for being

2:14:03

here this evening. I think it takes a

2:14:05

special person with a special heart to

2:14:08

want to offer this service and thank you

2:14:12

for reaching our residents, our visually

2:14:15

and hearing impaired residents with your

2:14:18

services. So, thank you.

2:14:20

>> Thank you. Uh, Councilwoman Green, did

2:14:23

you have any questions for our

2:14:24

interpreters?

2:14:25

>> Thank you, President Hill. Thank you

2:14:26

both for being here tonight and thank

2:14:28

you for your service. Um, I apologize

2:14:31

that I had to step out for a moment and

2:14:32

and missed uh the conversation. I don't

2:14:34

have any questions reading over the

2:14:36

resolutions though and thank you for

2:14:37

what you do.

2:14:38

>> Thank you. If there are no further

2:14:40

questions.

2:14:40

>> Oh, excuse me, President Hill. Yes. Uh,

2:14:43

I meant to just mention

2:14:45

uh hearing impaired, not visually

2:14:48

impaired. Thank you.

2:14:50

>> You're welcome. Um, if there are no

2:14:52

further questions, I move to add

2:14:54

resolution 7 of 2026 and resolution 8 of

2:14:59

2026 to our next legislative session

2:15:02

agenda for a formal vote. Thank you.

2:15:05

>> Thank you.

2:15:08

>> This concludes the business of the

2:15:11

administration committee. Next, we have

2:15:14

business with the public works

2:15:17

committee. I will defer to our public

2:15:19

works committee chair, Councilman

2:15:21

Rodriguez, to lead discussion.

2:15:22

>> Thank you, Madam President. And tonight

2:15:24

for the public works uh committee, we

2:15:26

are discussing resolution 6 of 2026 and

2:15:29

resolution uh 9 of 2026. Mr. Trudale,

2:15:32

can you read both resolution 6 of 26 and

2:15:35

resolution 9 of 26 into the record,

2:15:37

please? Resolution 6, 2026, a resolution

2:15:40

ratifying a Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

2:15:42

Department of Transportation Green Light

2:15:44

GO grant application and authorizing the

2:15:46

city of Harrisburg to execute any

2:15:48

agreements, forms, and documents related

2:15:50

to the award of 387,380

2:15:55

to update traffic signal equipment

2:15:57

within the Allison Hill neighborhood.

2:15:59

Resolution 9, 2026, a resolution

2:16:02

authorizing the submission of a grant

2:16:04

application to the United States

2:16:06

Department of Transportation better

2:16:07

utilizing investments to leverage

2:16:09

development grant program for up to $3

2:16:11

million to improve safety within four

2:16:14

roadway corridors to include Division

2:16:16

Street, North 6th Street, Market Street,

2:16:18

and South 17th Street.

2:16:20

>> Thank you for that, Mr. Chale. And I see

2:16:23

um our city engineer, Mr. Joel Cider

2:16:25

with us. Good to see you. Good evening.

2:16:27

>> Good evening. um if you'd like to give a

2:16:29

overhaul of resolution six of 2026 first

2:16:32

for council please.

2:16:33

>> So the green light go grant that we

2:16:35

submitted for and then we're

2:16:36

subsequently uh awarded is for 13 signal

2:16:42

uh intersections in the Allison Hill

2:16:44

area mostly along uh the market street

2:16:47

corridor and the 17th street corridor.

2:16:50

These upgrades are uh really safety

2:16:53

upgrades. Uh some retiming to alleviate

2:16:57

congestion, increased pedestrian

2:17:00

intervals to allow safer passage across

2:17:02

the streets and um

2:17:06

just more high visible crosswalks. Uh

2:17:08

some locations will receive ADA ramp

2:17:11

upgrades, but that is an as needed

2:17:14

basis. But that's pretty much the the

2:17:16

overall of that that project. Um, have

2:17:19

you identified any areas that need the

2:17:21

ADA compliance upgrades as of now?

2:17:23

>> As of now? No.

2:17:24

>> Okay. Okay. All right. Um, I'll open it

2:17:27

up to my colleagues on council, starting

2:17:29

with my far right, Councilwoman Lawson.

2:17:33

>> Thank you, uh, Chair Rodriguez. Um, I I

2:17:35

don't have any

2:17:38

Well, actually, yeah, just, uh, bringing

2:17:40

up the, uh, the ADA access, um, just

2:17:43

because I didn't think of that. There

2:17:45

were there certain areas that were um

2:17:49

>> so we we wrote that into the scope in

2:17:52

the case that we identify those during

2:17:54

the design.

2:17:55

>> Okay. So they haven't been quite

2:17:57

identified yet. Just it was just

2:17:59

curiosity and and nothing more than that

2:18:01

behind that. That that's all that I

2:18:03

have. Thank you.

2:18:03

>> Absolutely. Councilwoman Green.

2:18:06

>> Thank you very much. Councilman

2:18:08

Rodriguez. I don't have any questions

2:18:09

for you. Thank you for being here

2:18:10

tonight.

2:18:11

>> All right. Uh, President Hill,

2:18:14

>> good evening. Thank you. I don't have

2:18:15

any questions.

2:18:16

>> All right, Councilwoman Ross.

2:18:19

>> I'm sorry. Good evening. Thank you for

2:18:21

being here tonight. I don't have any

2:18:23

questions. I think I'm just um excited

2:18:26

to see another project, especially in

2:18:28

the House and Hill Center. I know

2:18:30

residents have been very concerned with

2:18:33

they love that we've had so many

2:18:35

projects going on, but they feel like

2:18:36

it's been concentrated in one area. So,

2:18:39

I think um we just had members from

2:18:41

Powder Hill come and speak about Alison

2:18:43

Hill and the parks, but I'm sure there's

2:18:44

also some other issues. So, I think this

2:18:47

um brings some light to saying, you

2:18:49

know, some we are doing some things and

2:18:51

projects in that area. So, um thank you

2:18:53

for keeping them on the radar. We look

2:18:56

forward to future ones.

2:18:57

>> Yeah, I I agree. It's it's refreshing,

2:19:01

as we stated before, to see

2:19:02

concentration more on Allison Hill,

2:19:04

South Allison Hill. Um, for many times

2:19:07

these are just areas that are

2:19:08

overlooked. So, you know, we really

2:19:10

appreciate it. Uh, Councilwoman Davis,

2:19:13

>> thank you, Councilman Rodriguez, and

2:19:15

thank you for being here this evening.

2:19:17

Yes, as my colleagues mentioned, my

2:19:20

sentiments go out towards these areas

2:19:22

and it's in particularly 17th in Market.

2:19:26

That area is just congested at any given

2:19:30

time on any given day. it's not just um

2:19:34

after work hours or in the morning. So,

2:19:37

I look forward to this project and for

2:19:40

some relief for the residents and

2:19:42

hopefully as the lights um get upgraded,

2:19:46

the lights get upgraded, then the

2:19:48

congestion will disperse and it will

2:19:51

help other areas surrounding Market

2:19:55

Street 17th and Market. So, thank you

2:19:57

for your work.

2:19:58

>> Excuse me.

2:19:58

>> That's our plan.

2:20:00

>> Thank you. All right. Thank you. Does

2:20:02

anyone else on council has anything else

2:20:04

to add regarding resolution six of 2026?

2:20:08

All right. And um right going right into

2:20:10

resolution nine of 26, which I'm also

2:20:12

excited about. Um we've seen a lot of

2:20:15

development on division and of course

2:20:16

uptown, but to see you know Market

2:20:18

Street and South 17th on this roster,

2:20:20

it's once again refreshing. So Mr.

2:20:22

Siders, if you would like to give an

2:20:24

overhaul of resolution 9 of 2026 for

2:20:26

council, please.

2:20:27

>> Yes. So the build grant is a a federal

2:20:30

grant and we are applying for a planning

2:20:33

grant. So this it it construction is

2:20:36

still many many years off but this is

2:20:38

more to get us to the design phase and

2:20:40

then um once we have a a final design we

2:20:43

can then bid it out for construction.

2:20:44

But the limits for this uh include um

2:20:48

division street from 2nd to 7th 6th

2:20:51

street from division to probably

2:20:54

Forester uh Marcus Street from Cameron

2:20:57

to 25th and 17th Street from Market to

2:21:02

probably Paxton Street.

2:21:03

>> Say Cameron to 25th.

2:21:05

>> Yeah,

2:21:05

>> that's awesome.

2:21:06

>> So, um

2:21:08

that's why the ask for this is $3

2:21:10

million because that is a massive area

2:21:14

and our plans are to do

2:21:17

extensive safety improvements. Um just

2:21:21

think of Second Street but applied

2:21:22

throughout the whole city. So that's

2:21:25

>> and just for the residents watching that

2:21:26

may not be cognizant of, you know, the

2:21:28

projects you're referring to. Can you

2:21:30

speak to some of those improvements that

2:21:31

may entail with this project?

2:21:33

>> Sure. So it would be traffic and calming

2:21:34

elements such as raised crosswalks,

2:21:36

roundabouts. I know not everyone's a a

2:21:38

fan, but uh they do slow people down. Um

2:21:44

like curb bumpouts that help uh people

2:21:46

cross the the road safer. Um we could do

2:21:49

some sort of road diet. And then I would

2:21:52

also mention that multimodal will be a

2:21:55

big part of this design as well. So

2:21:56

we'll we'll add bike and bus amenities

2:21:59

along all those corridors as well.

2:22:01

>> Now Cameron to 25th how wide from what

2:22:04

to what like state to uh

2:22:07

>> it'll be up market street from Cameron

2:22:09

to 25th along market

2:22:10

>> just market straight up. Okay. Okay.

2:22:12

Will that include um curbs different

2:22:15

things like that? Also ADA improvements.

2:22:18

It will include all the um safety

2:22:20

upgrades as well as accessibility.

2:22:23

>> That'd be great because there still are

2:22:25

a lot of communities that still don't

2:22:26

even have curbs that are highly unsafe

2:22:28

for the seniors, not to mention the

2:22:30

children that walk to and from school

2:22:31

every day. So, that's amazing. All

2:22:33

right. Um I'll open it up to council

2:22:35

this time starting with my immediate

2:22:37

left. Councilwoman Davis.

2:22:38

>> Thank you. Councilman Rodriguez,

2:22:41

can you speak to the current um

2:22:45

situation on Market Street um and the

2:22:49

construction that's going on and give us

2:22:51

an update of where we're at with the um

2:22:55

the equipment that's there 13th in

2:22:57

Market uh 14th in Regina.

2:23:01

>> So that that is a Capitol Region water

2:23:04

project. They're replacing a sewer main.

2:23:07

Um, as far as I am aware, they are

2:23:10

nearing completion of the really big

2:23:13

replacement of of the main line and then

2:23:17

they'll go to the smaller lines and

2:23:18

that's just less intensive. Um,

2:23:21

unfortunately these pipes are buried

2:23:24

probably like 15 feet deep so the holes

2:23:26

pretty big and it requires the whole

2:23:28

unfortunately the whole intersection to

2:23:30

be closed while they're doing their

2:23:32

construction activities.

2:23:34

>> Thank you very much. I mean that gives

2:23:37

some uh insight to our residents as

2:23:40

well.

2:23:40

>> So that that is nothing the city is

2:23:43

doing. We're just working in conjunction

2:23:44

with CRW to kind of oversee not oversee

2:23:48

but to work with them to for the

2:23:51

closures and and make sure they restore

2:23:54

the road then to a proper

2:23:55

specifications.

2:23:57

>> Okay. Thank you very much.

2:23:58

>> And thank you for that too, Councilwoman

2:24:00

Davis. There's a lot of residents that

2:24:01

stay right there in that concentrated

2:24:03

area that don't have a clue what's going

2:24:04

on. And I know I couldn't pro pose the

2:24:07

questions to you as far as the outreach

2:24:09

and you know how many residents have

2:24:10

been reached out to, but is there any

2:24:12

way that we can sustain communication

2:24:14

until that project's over with the

2:24:16

residents in that area? Um I just

2:24:18

haven't seen it done and you know I

2:24:20

myself sometimes forget about it. Take

2:24:22

the kids to New York Friday after

2:24:23

school, get them something to eat and I

2:24:24

completely forget. I can't even park. So

2:24:28

um is there any way we can like up uh

2:24:30

the communication on immediate residents

2:24:32

in that area? Not sure if that would be

2:24:34

through trash bills or just our

2:24:36

communication via communications on the

2:24:37

website what that looks like, but um

2:24:39

anyway we can partner.

2:24:40

>> Yeah, I'll certainly reach out to

2:24:42

communications and see what we can work

2:24:43

out.

2:24:44

>> That would be amazing. Uh Councilwoman

2:24:46

Ross,

2:24:48

>> thank you. Um I don't really have any

2:24:50

questions. Um I think we all know that

2:24:52

these projects are a necessity. Um I'm

2:24:55

just going to say something in a

2:24:57

proactive way. I think that um some

2:25:01

concerns that even residents spoke with

2:25:03

today and that we've had in the past is

2:25:05

looking at the companies we hire and

2:25:08

making sure they are local Harrisburg

2:25:11

companies. And I know that when you go

2:25:14

through the process after getting the

2:25:15

grant and you go through the process of

2:25:18

uh picking a project manager, which I

2:25:20

would assume you would um be in charge

2:25:22

of doing or at least having a voting

2:25:24

board that would help you do that. Um, I

2:25:28

would just ask looking at ones that work

2:25:31

with in our city that work with our city

2:25:34

that will think about our disadvantaged

2:25:36

businesses that don't always get picked

2:25:39

or looked at. Um, I think when we know

2:25:42

better, we do better. And I think we can

2:25:44

also do our processes differently. And I

2:25:47

would love to see you working with

2:25:48

equity and compliance to see what

2:25:51

businesses are working with our city.

2:25:53

Um, you know, we have Dena there. I

2:25:55

believe her name is. So, I think that

2:25:58

let's take charge and see how we work

2:26:01

together as a city um to promote these

2:26:04

businesses and and let residents know we

2:26:06

do hear them. So, I'm I'm just I'm

2:26:09

charging you with this.

2:26:11

>> Um it's just a nice ask and I think

2:26:14

anybody up here on council is here to

2:26:16

help because we want whoever comes in

2:26:18

front of us for us. Um we know that it

2:26:21

was a work in pro, you know, together

2:26:23

project. Um, also just proactive too. I

2:26:27

know with State Street, um, it didn't

2:26:29

get the completion that it needed and we

2:26:31

know it is, um, a a street that is in

2:26:35

need of help, but some things weren't

2:26:36

done the way the residents needed it to

2:26:39

and communication fail. So, I think with

2:26:42

these projects, just making sure we're

2:26:44

communicating with residents. It's not

2:26:46

they don't want it, they just want to be

2:26:47

included. So, I think just being

2:26:49

proactive in that way and making sure

2:26:51

their voices are heard, I think we're

2:26:52

going to get a lot done. So, I'm just

2:26:54

charging you with that and I'm here to

2:26:56

help.

2:26:58

>> Thank you, Councilwoman. Uh, President

2:27:00

Hill,

2:27:00

>> thank you. I don't have any questions

2:27:02

related to resolution 9 of 2026.

2:27:05

>> Thank you, Vice President Jones.

2:27:08

>> How you doing this evening? No

2:27:10

questions.

2:27:11

>> Right. Councilwoman Green,

2:27:13

>> thank you very much. I don't have any

2:27:15

questions for you regarding this. Thank

2:27:16

you.

2:27:17

>> All right. And Councilman Lawson,

2:27:20

>> thank you very much. And I'm I'm just

2:27:22

going to be a an echo of uh Councilwoman

2:27:26

Ross. Um definitely making sure that we

2:27:29

first engage with um our local

2:27:32

businesses and look to make sure that we

2:27:34

are hiring as the city being the lead in

2:27:37

in hiring a diverse business to help you

2:27:40

know with work with everything that we

2:27:42

can and we have the resources to to to

2:27:44

find them and make that happen. So, I

2:27:46

think that's very important and I'm I'm

2:27:48

glad she brought it up and I'm glad I

2:27:50

get to echo her. And then the second

2:27:52

part I want to echo just so it doesn't

2:27:54

fall apart as State Street did is that

2:27:57

we do reach out to our residents as we

2:28:00

make any changes that we we get out

2:28:02

there in front of them and and have some

2:28:04

public comment uh meetings just so that

2:28:07

we can let people know what we're doing

2:28:09

and how we're doing it. And then the

2:28:11

last selfish request is can we take

2:28:16

Division Street one more street down the

2:28:19

front just because it's very difficult

2:28:22

getting off Division onto Front Street

2:28:25

especially at night when or early

2:28:28

morning when the the lights are are are

2:28:30

down.

2:28:32

>> Yeah, I can certainly make that ask.

2:28:34

>> Okay, great. Thank you very much.

2:28:36

>> Welcome.

2:28:36

>> All right. Uh, are there any more

2:28:38

comments, sentiments, um, regarding

2:28:41

either of these resolutions we discussed

2:28:43

tonight in the public works committee?

2:28:45

>> All right. Thank you, um, city engineer,

2:28:48

Mr. Ciders, thank you for joining us as

2:28:49

always. It's a pleasure. Uh, and I'd

2:28:51

like to add resolution 6 of 26 and

2:28:53

resolution 9 of 2026 to our next

2:28:56

legislative session. And that concludes

2:28:58

the work of the public works committee.

2:29:00

Thank you.

2:29:00

>> Thank you.

2:29:08

Um we this is our second opportunity as

2:29:11

we mentioned for public comment. So just

2:29:12

a few housekeeping notes. If you are

2:29:15

interested in offering public comment,

2:29:17

please state your name and your address

2:29:19

for the meeting record. If you don't

2:29:21

feel comfortable sharing your address,

2:29:22

please share the vicinity in which you

2:29:24

live within the city. You will have four

2:29:26

minutes to share your comments. Mr.

2:29:29

Trudale will serve as our timekeeper. He

2:29:32

has added a timer to the screen for your

2:29:34

reference. I will begin to my right. Is

2:29:36

there anyone that would like to offer

2:29:38

public comment?

2:29:40

Okay, seeing hearing no one, anyone in

2:29:42

the middle section,

2:29:53

Kia Fowler, North Fifth Street. I want

2:29:55

to apologize to council for my

2:29:56

inappropriate outburst earlier. I had a

2:29:59

moment, but I do recognize that it was

2:30:00

inappropriate. Um, second, I wanted to

2:30:03

acknowledge and appreciate the council's

2:30:05

work to um try and serve underserved

2:30:08

populations in the community. I think

2:30:09

it's so important to have diversity in

2:30:11

the community and to focus on a

2:30:13

rejuvenation and assistance of

2:30:14

underserved communities, especially like

2:30:16

the Allison Hill neighborhood. Um, a lot

2:30:18

of people could use a lot of assistance.

2:30:19

So, it's really good to see that the

2:30:21

council really appreciates that need.

2:30:23

Um, third, I know last time I went over

2:30:26

time, so this is going to be a little

2:30:27

repetitive, but I wanted to read out my

2:30:29

list of 12 requests to the council in

2:30:31

full.

2:30:33

Uh, our first was passing non-ooperation

2:30:35

agreement. Second was applying pressure

2:30:36

for 287g agreements. Um, third was

2:30:40

follow in the footsteps of LA County and

2:30:42

ban use of facial coverings by local,

2:30:44

state, and federal law enforcement

2:30:46

during regular duty operations. require

2:30:48

that all local, state, and federal law

2:30:50

enforcement display visible personal

2:30:51

identification and agency affiliation

2:30:53

during regular duty operations. Four,

2:30:56

prohibit use of city resources. City

2:30:58

buildings, equipment, staff, time, and

2:31:00

funding should not be used to support

2:31:02

ICE operations. Local tax dollars should

2:31:04

serve Harrisburg residents. Five,

2:31:06

prohibit DHS from using administrative

2:31:07

warrants, either by banning or refusing

2:31:09

to accept them. Six, prohibit DHS from

2:31:12

operating within the city without a

2:31:14

signed judicial warrant. Seven, prohibit

2:31:16

DHS from entering any location, whether

2:31:18

private, public, or governmentowned,

2:31:20

without a signed judicial warrant.

2:31:22

Eight, adopt strong data privacy

2:31:24

policies. Limit what personal data the

2:31:26

city collects, how long it keeps it, and

2:31:28

when it can be shared. Nine, require

2:31:31

transparency and notice. Publicly

2:31:33

disclose any requests from ICE for city

2:31:35

assistance whenever legally permitted.

2:31:36

We want a transparent local government.

2:31:38

And I know this government does uh try

2:31:41

quite hard for transparency. This is

2:31:43

just kind of part of a general list of

2:31:44

asks I've compiled.

2:31:46

10. Um, fund or support know your rights

2:31:49

education. Provide information sessions,

2:31:51

multilingual materials, and partnerships

2:31:53

with trusted organizations. 11. Protect

2:31:56

city services from being used as traps.

2:31:58

Ensure residents can access libraries,

2:32:00

utilities, permits, and burrow services

2:32:02

without fear of immigration enforcement.

2:32:04

Uh, 12 was my final statement about

2:32:06

communication. Thank you very much for

2:32:07

your time.

2:32:09

>> Thank you. Is there anyone to my left

2:32:11

that would like to offer public comment?

2:32:12

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know you had

2:32:14

additional comments.

2:32:18

I also would like to apologize for my um

2:32:22

emotional sabotage that

2:32:26

what I wanted to express to you guys is

2:32:28

that people often come and use the black

2:32:32

card to grab you and make you jump on a

2:32:35

ship that's sinking

2:32:38

because you're melanated. They will come

2:32:40

and they will use emotional connection.

2:32:44

They don't use the N-word, but they

2:32:46

might as well have with all the Mandelas

2:32:48

and all the George Floyds and all the

2:32:51

other things that they say to you to

2:32:54

emotionally sabotage you from making

2:32:57

decisions that are sound. And that is

2:33:01

what I intended on saying to you before

2:33:03

I got into the whole veterans thing.

2:33:08

Um, you guys are a bunch of smart group

2:33:12

for sure. well educated

2:33:15

and uh you know the Black Panthers they

2:33:18

have said this is not your fight this is

2:33:20

not your fight and every time they need

2:33:23

numbers it's all about numbers they come

2:33:26

to you they come to the minority

2:33:29

community

2:33:30

rehabs they come to you but yet the

2:33:33

minority community don't have no real

2:33:35

rehab

2:33:37

the rehabs that the minority community

2:33:38

would need is more like for medical for

2:33:41

marijuana to keep people from that

2:33:44

addiction and not the other substance

2:33:48

that's not necessarily affecting the

2:33:50

black community. But when they need that

2:33:52

rehab money, they come to you. That's

2:33:54

just one example of how every time they

2:33:56

need something, they come to you and

2:33:59

they use the numbers because you, you

2:34:01

know, there's strength in numbers and

2:34:03

they want you to jump on their bandwagon

2:34:05

when it's not even your fight. It has

2:34:07

nothing to do with black Americans.

2:34:11

And we're tired of people always using

2:34:13

the melanated part of us

2:34:17

to grab us into some emotional turmoil

2:34:20

to make decisions

2:34:22

based on slavery and things that's we

2:34:26

have come far far from

2:34:30

I am not a descendant of a slave person.

2:34:33

And if you want to talk about melanated

2:34:35

people, we can talk about Kim, modernday

2:34:40

Egypt, where we were royals and

2:34:42

recognized as such. We can also talk

2:34:45

about when we're talking about slavery.

2:34:49

We can talk about how the Arabs

2:34:51

contributed

2:34:53

up to today.

2:34:55

You can't go into the EU without handing

2:34:58

over your passport

2:35:01

and being subjected to certain things.

2:35:05

There's a lot of things if we're going

2:35:07

to talk about melanated in a global

2:35:10

perspective.

2:35:12

It's not always the white man.

2:35:16

A lot of black people were sold by their

2:35:19

own and didn't for 40 people did not get

2:35:23

on a boat and loaded with millions.

2:35:26

They had people selling their own. So

2:35:30

stop letting people come in here

2:35:33

and grabbing your emotions

2:35:38

to make decisions that doesn't benefit

2:35:40

you. And that is what I was trying to

2:35:43

say. Thank you.

2:35:47

Thank you. Is there one anyone else to

2:35:49

my left that would like to offer public

2:35:52

comment?

2:35:59

>> What's on Midtown? Um it seemed like

2:36:02

there's a big lack in communication. We

2:36:05

don't have um a a paper. We don't have a

2:36:09

radio station, but we do have channel

2:36:11

20. We have reporters. Let's use it. If

2:36:15

we need to go on that site regards

2:36:17

regards to Market Street or any place

2:36:20

else, we can do an episode

2:36:23

for that and put it on channel 20. If we

2:36:26

want to talk about what they're doing,

2:36:27

we can put it on channel 20. Let's use

2:36:30

it. Let's spin it. Let's do something

2:36:33

and keep rotating it. Let's have a news

2:36:36

reporter from the city and if we have

2:36:38

questions and and um issues, we have

2:36:42

that reporter go and do it and put it on

2:36:44

channel 20 and spin it. Whatever we

2:36:47

want, we do have channel 20. If if we

2:36:51

need to move the cars

2:36:53

for towing or um plowing or whatever, we

2:36:57

have a reporter and we go out there and

2:37:01

it's like a news. It's like a news 8

2:37:04

o'clock in the morning.

2:37:06

Go live and for an hour. Then you spin

2:37:08

it. You spin it all day or 12 o'clock.

2:37:12

Then you have another episode at 12:00

2:37:14

to report what needs to be reported. And

2:37:17

then you spin it. At least we have

2:37:19

channel 20. Let's use it to its fullest

2:37:23

benefit. Don't just sit on it. That went

2:37:25

over there. It's dead.

2:37:27

Let's get some Let's get some life back.

2:37:30

If we need the communication, let's use

2:37:32

it. That's half the problem. Not using

2:37:36

Facebook. And I don't even get because

2:37:38

I'm on a whole different

2:37:40

um algorithm than anybody else's and we

2:37:43

all get the same thing at the same dag

2:37:45

on time. Let's get on some kind of

2:37:48

schedule that we can inform our people

2:37:52

and they can count on it before school

2:37:55

or whatever so the kids know what's

2:37:57

going on. I know it sounds stupid.

2:38:00

But it's not. Do it. Just do it because

2:38:03

we have it. If we don't use what we

2:38:06

have, we'll lose what we've got.

2:38:09

Okay? Let's get there's reporters.

2:38:11

There's young reporters. You can get

2:38:12

some young reporters to do the job.

2:38:16

Let's get that curriculum. Let's learn

2:38:19

from what we have and let's use it. Just

2:38:21

use it until we can't use it anymore.

2:38:25

What What else What else do we want to

2:38:27

teach our kids? We can use channel 20.

2:38:30

It should be scheduled

2:38:33

8 o'clock, 12 o'clock, and 3 o' and 6

2:38:37

o'clock.

2:38:39

Whatever. Just get some some motion on

2:38:42

the communication part of it. It's not

2:38:46

me.

2:38:47

It's not me. It's you.

2:38:50

Cuz you have it and you just don't do

2:38:51

it.

2:38:53

Okay. Get smart.

2:38:57

Love you, guys.

2:39:01

>> Thank you.

2:39:04

Okay, the time is 7:46

2:39:07

p.m. Oh, Councilwoman Ross has something

2:39:11

to say. Hold on.

2:39:12

>> I will not hold anybody up long. I know

2:39:14

that we've been here for a while and

2:39:16

it's 7:50 and it's shorter than we

2:39:18

thought it was with two agendas. But I

2:39:20

just wanted to say something really

2:39:21

quickly only because um

2:39:25

there's been a a lot in our country but

2:39:28

even in our community on how we may

2:39:31

speak to each other and um I remember

2:39:34

when I first got elected to this

2:39:36

position it was actually Councilman

2:39:38

Rodriguez who said you have to change

2:39:42

the way you speak to people. You have to

2:39:45

change the way people view you in the

2:39:46

community because you're a leader now.

2:39:48

you hold a certain position and we said

2:39:51

I was like I don't know what he's

2:39:52

talking about really well okay whatever

2:39:55

but I realized it when um the things

2:39:59

were going on with the market

2:40:02

there were a lot of false narratives

2:40:04

about city council even about myself I

2:40:06

was called racist on a platform that I

2:40:09

didn't even know about till somebody

2:40:10

showed it to me um there was incorrect

2:40:12

information put out about

2:40:16

anybody and anything that dealt with the

2:40:19

market and I wanted to give everyone a

2:40:22

good tongue lashing. I wanted to tell

2:40:24

them and give them a piece of my mind

2:40:28

but I realized that leadership reflect

2:40:31

attitude and I couldn't take that road.

2:40:36

I remember when a young lady came up

2:40:38

here and spoke about my children said

2:40:40

where they went to school.

2:40:43

It said all things that were no one's

2:40:46

business that she should have came to

2:40:48

me. Once again, I wanted to give her a

2:40:50

good tongue lashing. But instead, I

2:40:53

remembered that leadership reflect

2:40:55

attitude. So, I spoke to her

2:40:57

respectfully in the hallway and she

2:40:59

apologized.

2:41:01

I spoke respectfully again in our

2:41:03

meeting just to say where my boundaries

2:41:05

were.

2:41:11

when we wear a certain uniform, when

2:41:13

we're elected to a certain position,

2:41:16

when we hold a certain title, I feel

2:41:18

that it comes with great responsibility.

2:41:21

And if we took those roles and we knew

2:41:24

that, then we have to hold our part up

2:41:26

to that. And I feel that we must

2:41:30

communicate as leaders,

2:41:32

professional communicators, even in our

2:41:34

most private moments.

2:41:36

Because leadership reflects attitude.

2:41:41

We control how we respond to people.

2:41:43

Even when they say things that aren't

2:41:45

true, even when they hurt us to our

2:41:48

core, it's how we respond.

2:41:51

Men in the kitchen. Someone said

2:41:53

something so rude about their food and

2:41:57

said it all on Facebook,

2:42:00

but they responded with such a

2:42:03

respectful reply and promoted their

2:42:06

business at the same time because

2:42:08

leadership reflects attitude.

2:42:14

I I don't just say this for myself. I

2:42:17

say it for everyone.

2:42:20

People are going to say things.

2:42:23

Residents are going to complain.

2:42:27

Unpopular comments are going to be said,

2:42:30

spoken, written.

2:42:32

But it's up to us in leadership roles to

2:42:36

respond in a leadership way

2:42:39

because leadership reflects attitude.

2:42:43

And I just feel like it needs to be said

2:42:46

because I don't like the way people are

2:42:49

being spoken to. I don't like the

2:42:51

comments that I'm seeing. And I want

2:42:54

anybody to know where I am a leader

2:42:57

within this community. And I'm sure I

2:42:59

can speak all of council. We are here to

2:43:01

help in the mayor administration

2:43:05

and

2:43:07

we have to make sure we understand that

2:43:10

we took these roles to help. And it's

2:43:13

not always a glorious job,

2:43:16

but it's what do we do to show you all

2:43:18

that we're here?

2:43:20

But the one thing I know we can do and

2:43:23

remember, and I want everybody to

2:43:25

remember, and I'm going to say it again,

2:43:27

leadership reflects attitude. So if we

2:43:31

want to better Harrisburg, if we want to

2:43:33

work better together,

2:43:36

we have to have better attitudes and

2:43:38

lead Harrisburg in the correct

2:43:39

direction. Thank you.

2:43:43

Thank you. Thank you for your comments.

2:43:46

And what do we do? We continue to show

2:43:48

up every week. We stand in our decisions

2:43:52

and we lead from where we are. The time

2:43:56

is 7:51 p.m. I will entertain a motion

2:44:00

to adjurnn.

2:44:01

>> Motion to adjurnn.

2:44:04

>> It's a race.

2:44:05

>> Go Cougars.

2:44:06

>> Is there a second? Is there a second? Is

2:44:08

there a second? Thank you. We stand a

2:44:10

journ.

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