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Harrisburg City Council Legislative Session - 2/10/2026

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0:06

Okay, everybody ready?

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The time is 6:09

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p.m. I'd like to officially call our

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legislative session to order.

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Mr. Tuesday, could you please call the

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roll?

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Ms. Davis? Present. Ms. Green?

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Present.

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Mr. Jones? Here.

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Mr. Lawson?

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Mr. Lawson?

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Yeah, he's he's unmuting his mic. There

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you go. Yep. Thank you.

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>> All right. Thanks.

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Ms. Rose? Present.

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Mr. Rodriguez? Present.

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Ms. Hill?

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Present. Thank you. The invocation this

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evening will be led by Councilwoman

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Green.

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Thank you, President Hill.

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Um as we begin February uh and head into

1:06

the second week of February, I think

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it's important for us to recognize Mr.

1:09

Carter G. Woodson, who established Negro

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History Week, which was then expanded

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into Black History Month. Um even though

1:16

on many levels

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uh it's trying to be erased, I think

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it's important for us not to forget the

1:20

history uh and recognize it and speak

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it. Um

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So, just taking a moment to recognize

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our history and celebrate Black History

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Month as we are now 10 days into

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February.

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And then also just uh send our thoughts

1:32

and prayers to everyone in Harrisburg

1:35

that needs thoughts and prayers and

1:36

everyone in our nation. So, thank you.

1:40

Thank you.

1:42

Thank you, Councilwoman Green. Will

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everyone please rise for the Pledge of

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Allegiance?

2:07

Thank you.

2:10

For communications this evening, we are

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joined by Ms. Sharia Benn, co-founder

2:14

and director of the Sankofa African

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American Theatre Company

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in recognition of their 10th

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anniversary.

2:37

Thank you.

2:54

Thank you, Madam President and members

2:57

of the Harrisburg City Council. Good

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evening, and I am

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indeed honored and excited to introduce

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many of you to Sankofa African American

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Theatre Company, and some maybe it's

3:12

just reacquainting or hello again. My

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name is Sharia Benn. I am the founding

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executive

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uh

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executive artistic director of Sankofa

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African American Theatre Company here in

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Harrisburg.

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I am just grateful again for this chance

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to share a little bit about the work

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that we do and uh the work that we want

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to do

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building and contributing to the

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cultural, educational, and economic life

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of Harrisburg

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and our surrounding region.

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Uh I moved here uh to this area in 1995.

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I was uh

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employed with Penn National Insurance,

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and

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they moved me here from Baltimore.

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And in 1995, Harrisburg was a very

4:05

different place for me.

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And although during the day I am a

4:11

director and I do property and casualty

4:14

insurance, I had always been involved in

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the arts and theater in Baltimore, and

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it was my outlet. So, in the evenings

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when I would get off from work, I'd go

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to the theater to uh see it, to be an

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actor, to experience it. And when I

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moved here, I did not find the same

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opportunities in 1995.

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So,

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um

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after years of looking, I did find um

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something at the um at HACC. There was

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an audition there, and it was a student

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production. And I went, and from that

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experience, I was offered some roles at

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Open Stage of Harrisburg and became part

5:03

of the August Wilson Ensemble.

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So, in that, there were a group of

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actors that we would come together in

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February, and that would be our annual

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opportunity to enjoy the arts and

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participate in it.

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The acting ensemble talked for years and

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years about, "We want to do something

5:25

more than just in February. Our stories

5:28

should be told all the time."

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So,

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I said, "Let's do something about it."

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So,

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years passed and we were still talking

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about it every February in the dressing

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rooms.

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And in in 2015, I said, "Enough is

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enough. Let's really do something about

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it." So,

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the idea of Sankofa was birthed, and in

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2016,

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uh I assembled a founding committee, and

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we spent 9 months missioning, visioning,

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strategizing

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about what a theater company for the

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black people in and around Harrisburg

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would look like for representation,

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but also what we could do to engage,

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enrich, and educate the entire diverse

6:23

community around the African American

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experience.

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Sankofa was born.

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Sankofa means it's an African principle

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from Ghana. It means to go back

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and get it.

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Go back, learn and claim your history,

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all of it, the good, the bad, and what

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you think doesn't matter, and bring it

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into your present so that you can move

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forward with power and purpose. And

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that's what we do at Sankofa through the

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theater that we do.

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So, in 2017, we were

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officially

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granted our 501c3 status.

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We had been a project of Open Stage

7:13

Theatre, and uh we launched our first

7:17

production in 2018, was Akela and the

7:19

Bee.

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And our goal was to do one production in

7:24

2018, and then each year build on that

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until we had a full season of three to

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five productions.

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And then the pandemic happened.

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It only made us stronger.

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We pivoted.

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We strategically

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went into Sankofa with the idea that we

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would go into existing theater spaces,

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and uh

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for that model financially,

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it would uh take the burden off of us in

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terms of having to carry a large

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overhead of a physical space, but also

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that's where work needed to be done. In

8:08

the places that were already doing

8:10

theaters uh that were already telling

8:12

stories, but not telling our stories or

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not understanding how we as African

8:19

Americans, as people of color,

8:22

interacted and needed to be represented

8:25

on their stages. So, we have been uh

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collaborating with all of the theater

8:31

companies uh in this area. We've had a

8:35

strong relationship with Open Stage.

8:38

We do an annual production of uh a Black

8:42

History storytelling, particularly about

8:45

the Eighth Ward and local history. With

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Gamut, we've been doing that for

8:51

almost 10 years.

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Theatre Harrisburg, we have uh partnered

8:56

with the West Shore Symphony Orchestra,

8:58

the West Shore Theatre. We actually were

9:01

there was we were their first live

9:04

performance after they had renovated

9:06

their theater on the West Shore. We

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successfully

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uh overcame some

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some some ideologies and some fears and

9:16

real concerns about black folks on the

9:19

West Shore, and were able to open

9:23

dialogue and say and go and

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present that our stories are important

9:30

everywhere.

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So, uh

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we have been doing that work.

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We do

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primarily what we call

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straight theater. Not a lot of musicals,

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but a lot of music in our theater

9:46

stories, because that's part of our

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background and our roots.

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Our stories uh are mainly original

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stories about the people here.

9:58

The Eighth Ward, we have found a niche

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in telling those hundred voices, the

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stories of the hundred voices that of

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the names that you see listed on the

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pedestal, on the beautiful monument that

10:14

is over in Soldiers uh

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over on the Capitol grounds.

10:20

So,

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we also do new works and exciting works.

10:25

A Key in the Bee,

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we've done works about

10:29

uh

10:30

Emmett Till. We are now getting ready

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to, and we invite you all, we open on

10:37

Saturday at Gamut Theatre, the story of

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Ephraim Slaughter, a Freedom's Witness.

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We've been able to engage a playwright

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from Philadelphia to write this. This is

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a work that's also in collaboration with

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the National Civil War Museum.

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We have been able to employ

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an active and we pay our agent our

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actors. We've been able to employ over a

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hundred actors

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uh

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in our ten years where we're going into

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ten years and and pay them for their

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work. That's a stake in the ground for

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us that we pay all of our actors, our

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designers, anyone who's involved in our

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production. How do we do this?

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We ask.

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And we get, but we get about 10% of what

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the other art organizations get. So, we

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still engage and engage well. Excellence

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is another stake in our ground. We train

11:46

our actors. We also use a lot of adult

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actors. So, they get the opportunity and

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they come from our community. They don't

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have to have

11:58

training. We give them training. They

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need to have a heart for the art and the

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work that we are doing.

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Um

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Black Nativity has been our hallmark

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production for the last

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four years. We started at the West Shore

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Theatre and just in this past December,

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we were able to gather over

12:22

800 people at the Rose Lehrman Theatre

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for our annual what has now become an

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annual tradition for families in our

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community. So,

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the work is on the stage

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and the art that we produce.

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It's behind the stage

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when [snorts] we work with our actors.

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And it's in our community.

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We

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foster open honest communications.

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After every production, we have a

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post-show discussion where we create an

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environment where we encourage people to

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share about the experience they just

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saw, speak truthfully, to be curious, to

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be courageous,

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and grow.

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Cuz these are people who otherwise would

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not share the same space.

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And now they're coming into a space

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and they're across culture, across

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ethnicities, across neighborhoods, and

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that's where we really see the heart and

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the mission for Sankofa come alive.

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>> [snorts]

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>> Opportunities are lot.

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We want to grow.

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We are now at a

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place where we have outgrown physically

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almost all of the venues in Harrisburg.

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So, we have to have except the forum.

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We're going to get there.

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But uh

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we share and go into spaces, which means

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we are very often limited to the work

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that we can do because it's based on the

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availability of other theater companies

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and the work they're doing. So, we are

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looking at and strategically

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uh visioning for our own space. And I

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would love that space to be in

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Harrisburg.

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So,

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um

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we are continuing right now to explore

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partnerships and

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city initiatives.

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Um

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we have been able to prove that uh we

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increase tourism, youth engagement,

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community healing, and foster a good

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heart and good feeling about the arts,

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about our culture, and about Harrisburg.

14:56

Um I would welcome the opportunity to

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speak with the council and individuals

15:02

about the work that we do. But you

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really get a sense for it when you come

15:06

to our productions. It's something that

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I have no words that really articulate

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what happens when you experience a

15:14

Sankofa

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um production.

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Today, um we've shared with you

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some of our um work.

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So, you can see um

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our programs. There's Black Nativity. Uh

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we just finished a partnership and we

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have a touring show, Frances Ellen

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Watkins Harper, The Artistry and

15:38

Activism of Frances Ellen Watkins

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Harper, that we were able to bring to

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Penn State Harrisburg.

15:45

Uh our Whitaker Center performance was

15:47

snowed out, but uh

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it was

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an example of the work that we do,

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bringing together

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our community and entities within our

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community

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to foster

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belonging, community, and healing.

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That's what we need, healing.

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Uh

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So, I would love to know if there if

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there are any questions that you have of

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me. I'd love to share information with

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you that um

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if you have any questions.

16:22

Thank you so much for your presentation

16:24

this evening.

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My great great-great-grandfather

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is one of the 100 names listed on the

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Orator's Pedestal, Daniel Potter. So,

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um Daniel Potter, okay.

16:39

>> Yes.

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Uh Sankofa's goal is to tell or touch

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every single one of those names. So far,

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we've done 47 of them. So, I'm going to

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look up your great-great-grandfather,

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Daniel Potter, on that list.

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>> Yes. Mhm. All righty.

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>> Listed as a a clergyman. Yes.

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Um so, thank you. I've attended uh the

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Black Nativity for the past few years

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with my church. So, um thank you very

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much. We're really excited that you were

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able to join us.

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Uh we do have a proclamation, so just

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bear with me for a moment. Thank you.

17:15

>> Whereas the City of Harrisburg applauds

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Sankofa African American Theatre Company

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for their dedicated commitment to share

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live theatre and local black history

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with in the greater Harrisburg area for

17:26

ten years.

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And whereas Sankofa African American

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Theatre Company exists to engage and

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enrich the Harrisburg region around

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African American perspective on relevant

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issues through thought-provoking theatre

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that reflects artistic excellence.

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And whereas Sankofa African American

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Theatre Company was born in 2016

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after a founding committee met over nine

17:53

months, as you shared, to complete

17:55

missioning, visioning, strategic

17:57

planning, and program development. And

18:00

whereas Sankofa African American Theatre

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Company carries

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out their mission to illuminate African

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American history and culture and

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cultivate healthy spaces for

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cross-cultural dialogue and Sankofa

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African American Theatre Company has

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reached nearly 10,000 students and

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adults through live theatre productions.

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And whereas Sankofa African American

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Theatre Company has strengthened the

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cultural and education landscape of the

18:32

regional community through 12

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artistically strong live theatre

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productions of both new and published

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works.

18:44

And whereas productions include Ephraim

18:48

Slaughter, Freedom's Witness, The

18:50

Artistry and Activism of Frances Ellen

18:53

Watkins Harper, Black Nativity,

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Unfolding Esther, The Untold Story of

18:59

Esther Popel Shaw, The Colored Museum,

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Voices of the Eighth Part Three, Part

19:05

Two, various parts,

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The Call of Crusades,

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Mary Speaks, Intimate Apparel, The

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Jackson Rooming House, Music's Resting

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Place,

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and the list goes on. Um For Colored

19:21

Girls Who Considered Suicide When the

19:23

Rainbow Is Enough, one of my favorites.

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And whereas Sankofa African American

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Theatre Company has grown since since an

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ensemble of local professional African

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American actors and the founders of Open

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Stage of Harrisburg recognized

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recognized the need for an African

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American led and focused theatrical

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area.

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And now, therefore, be it hereby

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proclaimed that Harrisburg City Council

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commend Sankofa African American Theater

19:54

Company for their vision.

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And be it further proclaimed that

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Harrisburg City Council wishes to extend

20:02

best wishes for a successful 10th

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anniversary season. Thank you. Thank you

20:07

very much.

20:08

>> [applause]

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>> If you don't mind, we'd like to take a

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picture. Yes. Yes, thank you.

21:26

We will now open the floor for courtesy

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of the floor. Just a few housekeeping

21:30

notes before we begin.

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If you're interested in offering public

21:34

comments, please state your name and

21:36

your address for the meeting record. If

21:38

you don't feel comfortable sharing your

21:40

address, please share the vicinity in

21:42

which you live within the city. You will

21:44

have 4 minutes to share your comments.

21:47

Mr. Truesdale

21:49

has added a timer to the screen for your

21:52

reference. And I'll begin to my right.

21:54

Is there anyone that would like to offer

21:56

public comment?

22:01

Hello. Uh it's Ed Gerak, 1521 Second

22:04

Street. I just want to uh comment about

22:06

the uh snow removal process.

22:09

And I'm sure there's a lot of people

22:10

have different opinions or whatever

22:12

whatever, but my point is uh I hope you

22:14

guys can find some funds to maybe hire

22:16

independent consultant to come look at

22:19

what equipment we have, our people, our

22:20

process, whatever. I know it's a complex

22:23

thing, but I'm sure we're missing some

22:26

equipment or whatever, and I think we

22:28

need an independent voice to define that

22:30

and maybe build a 5-year plan to

22:32

properly fund whatever it is we need.

22:34

So, thank you.

22:37

Thank you. Is there anyone else to my

22:39

right that would like to offer public

22:40

comment? Yes, my name is uh John Saxon,

22:44

637 Minute Street, Harrisburg,

22:45

Pennsylvania.

22:47

Um I'm born and raised in this city and

22:50

I had some issues

22:52

and I just had to come in and uh

22:54

let you guys know the experience that I

22:56

had.

22:57

I watch the news, I'm pretty sure

22:58

everybody does, but uh when I had an

23:00

issue, I came down

23:02

here a couple weeks ago, I ran into Mr.

23:04

Truesdale.

23:07

Me and him went over the situation. He

23:08

set up a meeting with Mr. Rodriguez and

23:10

eventually I went to see

23:12

Mayor Williams, who took the time out of

23:14

her day to see me and help take care of

23:16

the issue.

23:18

With all the things that we witness now

23:20

on the news, it really feels good

23:22

to come in somewhere into a into the

23:25

city, to the these offices, and and talk

23:28

to someone, have someone take the time,

23:30

listen to your voice, treat you like a

23:33

human being,

23:34

set up dates.

23:36

The Mayor Williams was awesome. She took

23:37

the time to see me.

23:39

While in there, I was speaking with Mr.

23:41

Carter. I remember him when I was young

23:42

growing up

23:44

and I was telling him what was going on

23:45

with me and everything, and before I

23:46

left the room,

23:47

Chief Carter said to me, "Take care of

23:49

your mom and your wife."

23:51

With everything that we see going on

23:54

in America, I just want to say it really

23:56

makes me feel proud to be from this city

23:59

and have the experience that I did, and

24:01

I felt as though

24:03

you guys needed to hear that. So,

24:06

I thank you guys for taking I thank

24:07

everybody for taking the time they took

24:08

to help me and just

24:11

being treated like a human being. I

24:13

appreciate that. Thank you, guys. Thank

24:15

you. Is there anyone else to my right

24:17

that would like to offer public comment?

24:22

Good evening. My name is Daniel Bowers.

24:24

Live at 1113 Hudson Street.

24:27

Uh and also the proud parent of

24:29

uh

24:30

Council President Hill.

24:32

I would just like to take the time on

24:34

Saturday to thank all of the police

24:36

officers that came out to do a wellness

24:38

check on my neighbor, uh Lewis Harrell.

24:41

Uh we couldn't get in the house. They

24:43

were able to get into the house.

24:45

Uh he had an accident. He fell in his

24:47

bathroom. He was on the floor. He was

24:49

dehydrated. He couldn't answer the door.

24:52

And I was just so

24:54

glad that they were able to get in the

24:56

house. And they had he had to be

24:58

transported to the hospital. So, I just

25:00

wanted to take the time to thank every

25:02

officer for for doing that. Thank you.

25:06

Thank you. Is there anyone else to my

25:08

right that would like to offer public

25:09

comment?

25:17

Good evening. I am Brian Keisling from

25:19

Midtown. Uh before I begin, after the

25:22

rally we had last week, we were

25:23

approached by the family of Adeleno

25:25

Oliver Horton, who asked us to remind

25:28

Council of his name and story. This past

25:31

Thursday marked 20 years since Adeleno

25:33

was shot and killed by Harrisburg

25:34

police. That's 20 years of life and

25:37

counting stolen from Adeleno and his

25:38

family, and it goes to show that the

25:40

passage of time does not reduce the need

25:42

and the desire for justice.

25:45

Uh regarding the legislation on ICE

25:47

that's up this evening, uh we had a

25:49

chance to review it and feel that it is

25:52

important for it to be amended and

25:53

supplemented to make it stronger so that

25:56

it can actually protect people.

25:58

There are effectively two ways for the

26:00

city to approach dealing with ICE. The

26:02

first way is good, and the second way is

26:04

bad. Based on what I've seen and heard,

26:06

I believe members of this Council

26:07

support the good way.

26:09

The good way is for the city to actively

26:11

protect people from being kidnapped by

26:13

ICE so they don't get kidnapped or

26:15

terrorized at all.

26:16

The bad way, unfortunately, is the

26:18

approach that some other members of our

26:20

mayor's administration seem to be

26:22

taking, which is to not do anything to

26:24

actually stop the kidnappings from

26:26

happening. But when they do happen, the

26:28

city can say, "Well, we did what we

26:30

needed to do to cover ourselves."

26:32

And as it stands now, the ordinance on

26:34

the agenda tonight falls into that

26:36

second category. It doesn't stop ICE

26:38

from doing anything. It really just

26:40

prevents the employees of the city from

26:42

going the extra mile to helping ICE more

26:44

than the city otherwise would.

26:47

There is concerning language in this

26:48

ordinance, such as basically saying that

26:50

resources wouldn't be used to detain or

26:52

investigate or arrest people based

26:54

solely on the immigration issue, but

26:56

that does leave the door open for

26:58

immigration to be used against people as

27:00

long as literally anything else is

27:02

tacked on to that investigation.

27:04

It also talks about not granting federal

27:06

immigration agents access to non-public

27:09

city property. I don't see why the city

27:11

can't ban immigration agents from public

27:13

city property. We know that this city

27:16

has the power to ban people from public

27:18

property in various ways. We've seen it

27:20

happen before. What comes to mind is

27:22

homeless people and encampments. I think

27:25

it should be no problem for the city to

27:27

have creative legal solutions to keep

27:29

ICE off of public property the way we

27:31

were able to keep residents off of

27:33

public property just because they are

27:34

homeless.

27:36

Uh I did take a few minutes to look at

27:38

some city codes, and off the very top of

27:40

my head, ordinances about disturbing the

27:42

peace or banning malicious loitering and

27:44

prowling struck me as possible avenues

27:46

for preventing ICE from being here. That

27:48

is from 15 or 20 minutes of perusing our

27:51

city codes online. So, I therefore have

27:53

full faith and confidence in the city,

27:56

in the city solicitor, who has far more

27:58

qualification and experience than me, to

28:01

come up with creative ways of looking at

28:04

city laws that exist and city laws that

28:06

don't yet exist to be able to apply the

28:10

law to protect the people, and not just

28:12

for the city to be able to say, "We're

28:13

covering our ass."

28:15

Uh I do hope that the mayor's office

28:17

would be on the front lines of this

28:19

because the mayor has been silent on it,

28:22

and we need the mayor on the front lines

28:23

of protecting the people.

28:25

That silence has been noticeable.

28:27

There are community members who have a

28:29

draft of alternate legislation that the

28:31

city could take a look at and pass,

28:33

modeled on other cities' welcoming city

28:35

initiatives.

28:36

Uh while that also has room for

28:38

improvement, it is more robust than the

28:40

current draft that is on tonight's

28:41

agenda, and it does give us more room to

28:43

build to keep people safe. So, our calls

28:46

to action remain the same. We want the

28:48

city to permanently cut all ties with

28:50

immigration enforcement, actively

28:52

protect residents from immigration

28:54

enforcement and surveillance

28:57

uh that gives the Harrisburg police more

28:59

power to monitor and control people.

29:02

Thank you very much, and again, I know

29:03

you're the Council and not the mayor,

29:05

but the mayor's silence has been

29:07

noticeable. We need her on the front

29:09

lines of this to protect the city, and

29:11

we need her and her office to work with

29:13

the Council to give us more than what

29:15

we've got. Thank you.

29:18

Thank you. Is there anyone else to my

29:19

right that would like to offer public

29:21

comment?

29:27

Good evening, Council. Pamela [snorts]

29:29

Parson, Allison Hill.

29:31

Um thank you,

29:34

Council Member Green, for reminding us

29:36

that Dr. Woodson

29:39

um

29:39

began with Negro History Week, which has

29:43

now become Negro um excuse me, Black

29:46

History Month, as we know it. And that's

29:49

not lost on me standing here as a white

29:52

woman looking at all of you, black and

29:56

brown elected officials.

29:58

And

30:00

I'm going to go back and get something,

30:03

which is that um tomorrow is the 236th

30:08

anniversary

30:10

on February 11th, 1790,

30:14

a group of Quakers and Mennonites

30:16

petitioned Congress to end slavery. Did

30:20

they understand civil rights in the way

30:22

that I do now? No, they did not. But

30:26

they put themselves out there, just as

30:29

the people who are standing outside

30:30

here, and the people who've made

30:32

comments

30:34

tonight and will make comments are

30:36

putting themselves out here.

30:38

I'm also going to go back and get the

30:40

Pledge of Allegiance.

30:42

That's a Sankofa moment, because in it

30:46

we say, "Liberty and justice for all."

30:49

And if you notice, there are no

30:51

qualifiers. It says all. It doesn't say

30:55

that you must be a certain gender, or

30:58

certain age, or have a certain amount of

31:00

education, or certain amount of wealth,

31:03

that you have to be a voter, that you

31:06

have that you speak a certain language.

31:09

It doesn't even say that you have to be

31:13

a citizen.

31:15

It says, "Liberty and justice for all."

31:19

And you all are elected officials of the

31:24

City of Harrisburg, but you took an oath

31:27

to protect the Constitution, just as all

31:30

other

31:32

elected officials do. And so there are

31:34

people of this city who are looking to

31:37

you to do the best that you can to

31:40

protect everyone in this city.

31:44

And one of the things about the City of

31:48

Harrisburg is that community runs strong

31:51

and deep here, as you've heard from two

31:54

other residents here tonight who talked

31:57

about care for neighbor, care for

32:01

um

32:01

>> [snorts]

32:01

>> getting their issue resolved, um even

32:04

care for cleaning the streets. So there

32:07

are many people here here who care very

32:11

deeply about their neighbors.

32:15

I appreciate you, Councilman

32:17

Councilmember Green, for opening the

32:19

discussion uh some weeks ago with

32:23

Commissioner Carter about ICE. I

32:26

appreciate those of you on Council who

32:29

have been vocal thus far about what is

32:32

uh happening in our communities. And

32:35

those of you who've been silent, we're

32:38

looking at you

32:39

to see what you may say or do.

32:44

Thank you.

32:47

Thank you. Is there anyone else to my

32:49

right that would like to offer public

32:51

comment?

32:56

Good evening, Council members.

32:59

My name is Robert Williams,

33:01

Pennsylvania Accountability Project,

33:04

uh Capital Heights area of Harrisburg.

33:08

Tonight,

33:09

you will legislate or

33:12

is introduced to legislation, I think

33:14

Resolution 1.

33:16

So tonight, you legislate from a

33:17

principle I wholeheartedly endorse, that

33:19

administrative power without judicial

33:21

oversight is unconstitutional.

33:24

You declare that no government may

33:25

detain residents, strip away their

33:27

rights based on bureaucratic authority

33:29

alone. I'm here to insist you govern by

33:32

these standards. Your present You

33:34

present yourselves as defenders of

33:36

constitutional rights, yet on January

33:38

27th, 2025, Harrisburg police forcefully

33:42

removed me from my residence without a

33:44

warrant, without placing me under

33:46

arrest, and without any exigent

33:48

circumstances. I filed a sworn citizen's

33:50

complaint under city ordinance 3301. 13

33:53

months later, no investigation, no

33:56

response, no accountability.

33:58

If administrative authority without

34:00

oversight is insufficient for federal

34:02

agents, why is it sufficient for

34:05

Commissioner Carter?

34:08

To Why is it sufficient for Commissioner

34:10

Carter to ignore both the Fourth

34:12

Amendment and your own accountability

34:15

ordinance? Tonight, you demand due

34:17

process protection from federal agents,

34:19

but your Bureau of Codes Enforcement

34:21

systematically violates due process for

34:25

property owners. I'm a Harrisburg

34:27

resident rehabilitating blighted

34:29

properties in this community.

34:31

I am your constituent working to improve

34:33

neighborhoods you claim to care about.

34:35

Your Codes Enforcement Bureau has

34:37

violated my due process rights several

34:39

times. I received violations without

34:41

proper notice of what standards I

34:43

alleged by that were alleged violated. I

34:46

was denied any meaningful right to

34:47

appeal, no hearing, no opportunity to be

34:50

heard, no or no impartial review. The

34:52

Constitution requires notice and an

34:54

opportunity to be heard before

34:55

government deprives you of property

34:57

rights. I received neither.

35:00

Codes inspectors issue violations, block

35:02

my permits, stop my project without ever

35:04

providing any basic procedural

35:06

protections the Constitution guarantees.

35:09

Where is my due process rights? Where is

35:12

my notice? Where is my right to appeal

35:14

and be heard before my property rights

35:16

were destroyed and trampled on?

35:18

Due process is not a buffet. You don't

35:20

get to serve it selectively based on

35:22

which violations are politically

35:24

motivated or or convenient. The police

35:27

violated the Fourth Amendment. You

35:29

buried They buried the complaints. Code

35:30

Enforcement violates due process, and

35:33

they called it regulation. You ignore

35:35

your own ordinances while demanding

35:37

federal agencies follow theirs. This is

35:39

selective application of of

35:41

constitutional law. Your administrative

35:43

powers requires limits. Though

35:45

Your administrative powers requires

35:47

limits. Those limits must bind every

35:49

city department. The Constitution

35:51

applies to local government. Due process

35:53

doesn't appear doesn't disappear when

35:55

code with when Excuse me. When it's

35:58

Codes Enforcement. Respond to my 3301

36:01

complaint, provide notice and appeal

36:03

rights in Codes Enforcement. Stop

36:04

violating constitutional protections you

36:07

claim to defend. Follow the

36:08

Constitution, enforce your ordinances,

36:11

apply the law, do your dang jobs. Thanks

36:14

for

36:17

Thank you. Is there anyone else to my

36:18

right that would like to offer public

36:20

comment?

36:26

Uh hello. My name is Gabriel Guevara. I

36:29

live in Midtown.

36:31

Watching the horrors that ICE has done

36:32

in Minneapolis and other cities, I fear

36:34

for the safety of my neighbors if

36:36

Harrisburg continues to cooperate with

36:38

ICE. Uh as a Puerto Rican, I fear for my

36:40

Latino community who might not look or

36:43

sound like what an ICE agent deems uh

36:46

citizen should look or sound like. And

36:48

once our neighbors have been kidnapped

36:50

off our streets, what's to come of their

36:52

well-being in custody?

36:54

Uh

36:55

I'd like to bring up the case of Chou

36:57

Feng Gee, a 32-year-old Chinese citizen

37:00

who died in ICE custody on August 5th,

37:02

2025, at the Moshannon Valley Processing

37:06

Center nearby in Clearfield County. He

37:09

was found hanging in a shower room, and

37:10

his death was ruled a suicide, though

37:12

his family has filed a lawsuit demanding

37:14

transparency regarding his treatment and

37:17

isolation. I urge you to research the

37:19

conditions of other ICE facilities in

37:21

the country. Residents of this city

37:23

can't even count on our government to

37:25

sort out malpractice at Dauphin County

37:27

Prison, so we don't need to see any more

37:29

neighbors in needless danger now because

37:31

they are in custody with ICE.

37:33

Some members of the community put

37:35

together a draft of alternate

37:37

legislation that Council could consider

37:39

in place of the legislation they have on

37:41

the agenda tonight. This legislation

37:43

would be based on other cities'

37:44

welcoming city initiatives. And while

37:47

this draft isn't perfect, it is more

37:49

creative than the legislation on the

37:50

agenda for tonight, and gives the city

37:52

more room to take meaningful steps on

37:54

protecting Harrisburg residents. There

37:57

is always more we can do to protect our

37:59

communities.

38:00

A member of the community has already

38:02

emailed this draft to City Council

38:03

members, and we ask that City Council

38:05

take this input from the community

38:07

seriously. We as residents want to play

38:10

an active role in working with the city

38:11

to keep all of our residents safe from

38:13

ICE. Thank you.

38:17

Thank you. Is there anyone else to my

38:19

right that would like to offer public

38:20

comment?

38:22

Seeing hearing no one, anyone in the

38:23

middle section?

38:30

Good evening, Council. Kia Fowler,

38:32

North [clears throat] Street.

38:34

Um

38:35

my planned speech is going to go a

38:37

little bit different than I intended

38:38

tonight. Unfortunately, I have to

38:39

skidaddle right after this, so I

38:42

uh look forward to reading the meeting

38:43

meeting notes for the rest of the

38:44

meeting tonight. However, um the next

38:46

following weeks, what I want to do is be

38:47

here to emphasize um why this work is

38:50

important on mitigating ICE's operations

38:53

here. So, some examples of that, um

38:57

While the administration claims that ICE

38:59

and DHS removal operations are targeting

39:01

only the worst of the worst criminals,

39:03

daily operations reflect a different

39:04

story. As of January 25th, 2026, 70,766

39:09

people were recorded as being currently

39:11

detained by ICE. Of those, 74.2% or

39:15

52,504

39:17

people do not have a criminal record. A

39:19

report by the Cato Institute reveals

39:21

that of individuals booked by ICE

39:23

between October and November 2025, 73%

39:27

had no criminal conviction. Only 5% of

39:30

individuals had a violent criminal

39:31

conviction. By not proactively passing

39:34

legislation to protect Harrisburg

39:35

residents from

39:37

unlawful actions by DHS, the city risks

39:39

passively permitting cases of injury or

39:42

death in ICE interactions with with city

39:44

residents.

39:45

Uh here are some examples of risk of

39:46

harm during arrest from ICE. On January

39:49

8th, 2026, ICE agents arrested um

39:52

Alberto Castañeda

39:54

Mondragón, a 31-year-old Mexican

39:56

immigrant with no criminal record.

39:58

During this arrest, Mr. Mondragón

40:00

suffered suffered eight skull fractures

40:02

and five life-threatening brain

40:04

hemorrhages. According to NPR reporting,

40:08

Castañeda Mondragón stated that four

40:10

masked ICE agents pulled him from a

40:12

friend's car, threw him to the ground,

40:14

handcuffed him, and struck his head with

40:15

a steel baton. He was then taken to an

40:17

ICE detention facility at the Wipple

40:19

Federal Building, where he was where he

40:21

reported being beaten again. The

40:23

arresting officers claimed to medical

40:24

staff that Mr. Mondragón threw himself

40:26

headfirst into a brick wall while

40:28

handcuffed, and that is what caused the

40:30

man's injuries. Medical staff who

40:32

attended Mr. Mondragón stated that his

40:34

injuries were inconsistent with the

40:35

officer's statements and were more

40:37

consistent with being beaten with a

40:38

metal rod.

40:40

Some risks [snorts] of harm once in

40:41

detention. Once arrested, there is no

40:43

guarantee of where a Harrisburg resident

40:45

may be detained. Multiple detention

40:47

centers have documented human rights

40:48

abuses and violations. There's no way to

40:51

guarantee a Harrisburg resident is going

40:52

to be safe in any one of these

40:54

facilities. Less than 3 months ago, for

40:56

example, on December 29th, 2025, an

40:59

individual employed with an ICE

41:00

processing processing center in

41:02

Louisiana pleaded guilty to the sexual

41:04

assault of a female detainee detainee

41:06

while she was in custody.

41:08

Reports from the Fort Bliss, Texas,

41:10

Detention Center document overcrowded

41:12

conditions, um undernutrition and

41:14

malnutrition due to lack of food,

41:16

limited access to bathroom facilities or

41:18

cleaning products. In the first 50 days

41:20

of operation, the Fort Bliss facility

41:22

recorded 60 violations of federal

41:24

detention standards.

41:26

Conditions at this facility are so bad

41:28

that Francisco Gaspar Andreas died of

41:31

liver and kidney failure after he failed

41:33

to receive appropriate medical care at

41:35

Fort Bliss on December 3rd, 2025.

41:38

Um I appreciate all of you that have

41:39

worked really hard to to draft this

41:41

first draft of proposed legislation. Um

41:43

I would really appreciate you guys

41:44

having a look at the potential welcoming

41:46

ordinance. I'd love to see some kind of

41:48

stronger protections added to this

41:50

proposal for um ordinance one. Um thank

41:52

you for all very much for your time, and

41:54

I'll probably see you next week. Thank

41:55

you.

41:57

Thank you.

42:00

Is there anyone else in the middle

42:01

section that would like to offer public

42:03

comment?

42:05

Absolutely. Let me back up. Hello. Can

42:08

we get enough?

42:10

Jonathan Luff, live over on Green

42:11

Street.

42:12

Sounds like Harrisburg needs a lawyer.

42:16

So, I have come here to tell you all

42:19

that I have accepted a position at

42:20

Skerenji Law Firm, where I will be

42:23

taking my talents

42:25

um and we will be practicing criminal

42:28

law. I am back. And y'all need some free

42:30

legal advice to the camera.

42:33

Do not talk to the cops.

42:36

Period. Call your boy first. If I'm not

42:39

there,

42:40

you have nothing to say.

42:42

Uh we handle civil rights cases. We

42:45

handle employment cases. We handle

42:47

personal injury cases, slip and fall.

42:49

Here's the Here's the short end end end

42:52

of it, Harrisburg. When you asked me, uh

42:56

Mrs. Rawls,

42:58

I'm sorry, Councilwoman Rawls. I

42:59

apologize. When you when you asked me to

43:01

sit still and stay here,

43:04

I'm not going to go back home.

43:05

Harrisburg has a lawyer.

43:07

Let it be known there is a black lawyer

43:09

here. I am here for you guys. Call your

43:12

boy, okay?

43:14

That's the lawyer part. Secondly,

43:16

foundation-wise, I have started a

43:19

foundation, and I am looking for talent.

43:21

14 to 25 May May 30th at Penn State

43:25

Harrisburg. My foundation in honor of my

43:29

late son, we will be giving away a

43:31

thousand dollars. I'm looking for the

43:33

singers, 14 to 25. A thousand dollars on

43:37

a line. Now, personally, like I said,

43:39

I'm from Philadelphia. I think the

43:41

winner's going to come from Philly. But,

43:45

maybe I'm wrong.

43:46

So, that's the second thing. And lastly,

43:51

to I'm glad there are cameras here cuz

43:53

here's my zenko for a moment. To the

43:55

young black

43:58

boys and girls,

44:00

there is a

44:02

child-sized hole in my heart

44:07

that I need to have some faith that

44:09

y'all believe in yourselves.

44:13

I do not want to hear that you cannot

44:15

make it. I want you to look at me and

44:18

hear me clearly. I have made it. I will

44:20

show you how. You can be a lawyer. You

44:22

can do the things. We will start debate

44:25

teams. We will start trial teams. I

44:27

promise you. I am here to stay. All I

44:30

need is your energy. Give me some

44:32

energy, and we got the rest, Harrisburg,

44:35

all right? Before I lose control,

44:37

because my girl say I'm a little

44:38

dramatic. So, here's my card.

44:45

Thank you. Is there anyone else in the

44:47

middle section that would like to offer

44:48

public comment?

44:52

Uh thanks for the opportunity uh to

44:54

speak. Uh my name is Sam Donkoh. Uh I'm

44:56

on Edward Street up in the 14th Ward. Um

44:59

just have a very short uh quick little

45:00

comment to talk about snow removal um

45:03

and the potential that City Council has

45:05

to to really make an impact. Um So,

45:07

here's the deal. Um

45:09

our house is on Edward and Susquehanna

45:10

Street, way up almost in the next

45:12

township. It's a forgotten little alley.

45:14

There's many many like it in the city.

45:16

Um

45:17

and like a lot of the alleys in the

45:19

city, for 3 days um our street was not

45:21

plowed. Um which really wouldn't be that

45:24

big of a deal,

45:25

except for the fact that our neighbors

45:26

behind us, older than my wife and I, um

45:30

couldn't really get out, you know, with

45:32

the the the depth of snow that was

45:34

there. Um so, they were calling, we were

45:36

calling routinely uh 311 and the other,

45:39

you know, resources that are available

45:40

to us um when we need an essential city

45:43

service. And, you know, offering all

45:46

apologies and all excuses and everything

45:48

like that um for the the overwhelming

45:50

nature of the storm. We haven't had snow

45:52

like this in a long time. It was clear

45:54

everybody that we were talking to was

45:55

saying the city's doing as best we can

45:57

with the limited resources that we have.

45:58

I totally will allow for that with what

46:00

I'm about to say, but

46:02

what took

46:03

what what it took for us and for our

46:05

family to get that service was finding

46:08

and contacting Councilman Rodriguez

46:11

personally on his personal cell, sending

46:14

him a few pictures of what the street

46:15

looked like, because everybody that we

46:16

would talk to would say, "Well, it can't

46:17

be that bad. Can't be that bad." We

46:19

showed him the pictures about how it was

46:20

impassable, and within 1 hour there was

46:22

a city plow that came and at least made

46:24

the street passable. Um that I think is

46:27

a a very wonderful example of how city

46:30

government um

46:32

can can reach out and uh and provide an

46:36

essential service to somebody, to

46:37

directly respond to a uh a group of

46:40

citizens that that need something. We

46:42

found that to be very refreshing. Um

46:44

just a personal word of thanks to

46:45

Councilman Rodriguez for that. And I'm

46:46

I'm sure that you all do similar things

46:48

for your own constituents um as well.

46:50

But, I I will say, just as an an aside,

46:53

you know, I I and nobody else in this

46:55

room should really have to do that. I I

46:57

shouldn't necessarily have to reach out

46:58

to my councilman directly to get a city

47:00

service like that. But, not focusing on

47:03

that, I I just want to leave you all

47:04

with this, you know, um the the city of

47:07

Harrisburg has a lot of potential. We've

47:09

we've talked about that for a long long

47:10

time about the potential that the city

47:12

has. Um and I think if my story can be

47:15

an example of how that potential can be

47:17

turned into action, um I'd like to be

47:19

able to leave you all with it. There

47:20

There's a lot of different ways that we

47:21

can make this place better than it is

47:24

right now. I think it involves focusing

47:27

in on how we serve each other best and a

47:29

little bit less on personal squabbles.

47:31

Um and I know you all have a very

47:32

difficult job, especially with the

47:33

legislation in front of you tonight. Um

47:35

so, just a word of thanks and just a

47:37

reminder to um keep your eyes and ears

47:39

on service. Thanks.

47:42

Thank you. Is there anyone else in the

47:44

middle section that would like to offer

47:46

public comment?

47:51

Silas Steinbrook.

47:53

So, council members, um coming again

47:56

before you tonight. Uh it's been a

47:58

couple weeks since I've been here, but

48:00

we're talking about ICE again.

48:02

Uh luckily, a couple of my fellow

48:04

constituents already talked about the

48:05

draft that was emailed.

48:08

Um hopefully, y'all have time to review

48:10

it, introduce it, really take it into

48:12

account, into thought.

48:14

As I've also looked over the ordinance

48:16

to be introduced tonight and feel that

48:19

it is quite bare-bones, [snorts] if I'm

48:21

being honest.

48:23

Now,

48:24

>> [sighs]

48:24

>> onto what I'm actually here to talk

48:25

about.

48:28

I'm here again to urge the council to

48:29

pass a resolution to prevent ICE from

48:31

deputizing local law enforcement and to

48:33

protect the protect the citizens of the

48:35

city from having their constitutional

48:37

rights as American citizens violated by

48:39

armed thugs.

48:41

Luis Gustavo Núñez Cáceres, Gerardo Luna

48:45

Campos, Victor Manuel Diaz,

48:48

Perry La, Luis Beltran Yanes Cruz,

48:53

uh Heber Sanchez Dominguez,

48:56

Rene Nicole Good, and Alex Pretty.

49:00

Eight deaths

49:03

in ICE custody or publicly shot in the

49:06

streets in the month of January of 2026

49:10

alone.

49:13

They have done And in the cases of Rene

49:17

Good and Alex Pretty, we have seen how

49:19

the administration can take the videos

49:21

we see and immediately start lying to

49:23

our face, and before their bodies are

49:25

even cold, start declaring them domestic

49:28

terrorists.

49:29

>> [snorts]

49:31

>> When we clearly saw a man get tackled to

49:33

the ground, disarmed of his concealed

49:36

carry that was a legal carrier of

49:40

and then shot eight times.

49:46

I don't care

49:47

what justification you can think of,

49:49

nothing justifies that.

49:54

But ICE has demonstrated time and time

49:57

again

49:58

that they're more than willing to

49:59

brutalize, murder, and unjustifiably

50:01

detain people for any cause whatsoever

50:04

and then lie to our faces.

50:06

>> [snorts]

50:07

>> And on the topic of detainment, it

50:10

brings me to my next point of concerns.

50:12

These new warehouses

50:13

that have been purchased in Schuylkill

50:15

County and the one up in Reading

50:18

designed to hold 150 to 250 people,

50:22

tops. And that's, you know, employees as

50:25

warehouses.

50:27

They're not designed to hold 1,500 to

50:29

7,500

50:31

people. 7,500 people. The warehouse in

50:34

Schuylkill County is being

50:36

converted into a detention center in

50:38

order to hold.

50:41

A 7,500 person

50:42

detention center that, first off, is not

50:45

zoned to be such.

50:47

Now, I know Warren Dolphin County, whole

50:49

different ballgame, but

50:51

fact of the matter is, the sewer system,

50:53

the water system is not designed for a

50:56

detention center of that sort, and it is

50:58

going to overwhelm Schuylkill County.

51:00

And we could see backlash from that as

51:02

far over here as Dolphin County

51:04

and any support for ICE to construct a

51:07

detention center, even supporting ICE in

51:10

the first place, is still allowing for

51:12

that kind of infrastructural damage to

51:14

occur here. When I mean, we've all seen

51:18

the river outside. We all seen the

51:19

Susquehanna. We're still struggling to

51:21

get that cleaned up.

51:23

Let alone if we had

51:25

ICE trying to open another detention

51:27

center here.

51:30

So

51:32

not only that

51:34

we have people held for months, for

51:37

years [snorts]

51:39

without charge, without being able to be

51:42

contacted by their families, by their

51:43

attorneys

51:45

having CBP and ICE lie about their

51:48

status while they're being transferred.

51:50

Their ongoing cases because there are so

51:53

many being held like that.

51:55

I realize I'm over my time. I didn't

51:57

even get halfway through

51:59

what I wanted to talk about, but

52:02

I hope you all understand the severity

52:04

of this ordinance that you're discussing

52:06

tonight, this legislation that you're

52:08

presenting.

52:09

And to my citizens of Harrisburg, the

52:12

ones not here and the ones outside

52:14

practicing your First Amendment rights

52:17

remember that we're in this together.

52:19

Thank you for your comment.

52:22

Is there anyone else in the middle

52:23

section that would like to offer public

52:25

comment?

52:36

Um I

52:38

I I hadn't planned again. I hadn't

52:39

planned on talking like last week.

52:42

But um

52:44

as I listen to people, it makes me

52:46

realize that I I have to start doing

52:48

more research on things because I

52:50

haven't heard anything come back from

52:52

the council since last week. Some, you

52:55

know

52:56

it sounds like something's being done.

52:58

There's some kind of ordinance being

53:00

drawn up or draft.

53:02

Is that draft here now?

53:05

Is it over here?

53:07

No, it's available online. Oh, it's just

53:10

online. So we couldn't print that out,

53:13

could we?

53:14

It's not possible to print that out

53:16

today.

53:17

Um well

53:19

I just want to say that um

53:22

all of the things that are happening to

53:24

these people, everybody, you know, we

53:26

can always say, "Well, it didn't happen

53:27

to me."

53:29

You know, but it keeps happening. It

53:31

keeps happening. And

53:33

we have a crook who

53:36

is in charge of a

53:38

50,000 man army, his his personal army

53:42

that he just

53:43

you know,

53:44

if you had

53:46

if you had the right to just put on a a

53:48

mask

53:50

and grab a gun, buy a

53:52

$25 badge, and just go into people's

53:56

house and pull them out

53:58

you know, what kind of country would

54:00

would this be?

54:01

If if anybody could just do that. You

54:03

know, and that's that's what he because

54:06

he's the president, he feels that he can

54:08

do anything he wants. He can come in

54:11

here I mean, you know, he's he's shot

54:13

white people.

54:15

He's shot black people.

54:17

Spanish. He's taken people, putting them

54:20

in the worst penitentiaries in the

54:23

world.

54:24

You know, think about that. If you kill

54:26

five people, you don't go to the worst

54:28

penitentiary in the world.

54:30

You know, but he you know, he he's just

54:33

for his little base, he's saying, "Look,

54:35

I'mma show y'all how cruel I can be to

54:38

these people. I don't like them people.

54:40

I don't want y'all to like them people."

54:43

Um

54:44

I spoke to a guy the other day on my

54:46

job.

54:47

He said to me, he said, "Hayes, well,

54:49

what do you think about Trump?"

54:52

And I said, "Well, to tell you the

54:53

truth, I think he's the worst human

54:55

being that has ever been on this

54:57

planet."

54:58

And he said, "Oh, well, I like him." I

55:01

said, "Well, why do you like him?"

55:03

He said, "Oh, because those transgenders

55:06

that Wait a minute. What Why do you like

55:09

him?" "Because those homosexual because,

55:12

you know, and all of these things that

55:14

he comes out and says

55:16

uh I hate these people, so we want y'all

55:19

to hate them. So stand behind me so we

55:22

can crucify these people. You know, once

55:24

we get finished with the Spanish people,

55:27

then we'll come to the Somalis.

55:30

After we leave the Somalis, we'll go to

55:32

other Africans. After leave we leave

55:35

them, we'll go to the next group of

55:37

people. We're not coming after the white

55:39

people, and I'm not trying to be smart

55:41

or anything like that. He he he he cares

55:45

about the white people.

55:47

But if you got money, he loves you.

55:50

You know, if

55:51

he he'll he'll do anything for that

55:54

dollar as we've all seen. Look what he

55:56

did to He threw out Obama's

56:00

uh portrait out of the White House

56:03

and put Putin's portrait in his place.

56:07

I mean, come on. What What kind of

56:09

stuff, you know, he's got this thing

56:10

with Putin where he feels like he can

56:12

just do anything he wants and they

56:14

they're, you know, this is my buddy

56:17

here.

56:18

You know, and so you know

56:20

uh I don't know what the race

56:23

differential is in Russia, but I don't

56:25

When I'm on TV, I don't see I don't see

56:27

too many minorities there, you know. So

56:31

I think that one thing that he's trying

56:32

to do, Trump is trying to do, is bring

56:35

down the whole minority population.

56:39

And then when the next time this when

56:41

this when these midterms come around

56:43

he's going to feel like there's no way I

56:45

can lose because, you know, it it must

56:48

be rigged cuz there's no minorities

56:50

around that can vote for him.

56:52

>> And and thank you for saying thank you

56:55

for your comment.

56:56

But um you know, we have to do something

56:58

this ordinance. I do want to read this

57:00

ordinance and uh

57:03

I'm I'm going to do a little research

57:05

this week and find try to find out some

57:07

more things to say when I come up here

57:09

probably next week. Thank you. Can you

57:11

state your name and your address for the

57:13

minute record?

57:14

>> like I said before, is James Brown.

57:17

I live on

57:18

Lenox Street in Harrisburg.

57:20

Lifelong resident. And um

57:24

that's all I have to say. Thank you.

57:26

Thank you. Is there anyone else in the

57:28

middle section that would like to offer

57:30

public comment?

57:32

Okay, seeing and hearing no one, anyone

57:33

to my left.

57:36

Seeing and hearing no one, we will move

57:37

forward with our meeting agenda.

57:40

Next, we have the approval of minutes

57:42

for the legislative session that

57:44

occurred on February 3rd, 2026.

57:48

Council members, are there any revisions

57:51

to those meeting minutes?

57:53

Okay, seeing and hearing none, the

57:55

minutes stand approved. We will now move

57:57

to reports of committees.

58:00

I will deliver the first report on

58:01

behalf of the administration committee

58:04

on the work session of February 3rd,

58:06

2026.

58:09

On Tuesday, February 3rd, 2026, the

58:12

administration committee met to discuss

58:14

two resolutions. Resolution 7 of 2026, a

58:19

resolution authorizing the city of

58:21

Harrisburg to negotiate and enter into a

58:24

professional services agreement with a

58:26

Joshua Boger to provide sign language

58:30

interpretation services. Resolution 8 of

58:33

2026, a resolution authorizing the city

58:36

of Harrisburg to negotiate and enter

58:39

into a professional services agreement

58:41

with Elizabeth Sheeber

58:43

to provide sign language interpretation

58:45

services.

58:47

Mr. Boger and Ms. Sheeber were present

58:49

to answer any questions council members

58:51

had. Mr. Boger and Ms. Sheeber

58:54

introduced themselves. Both are

58:56

certified sign language interpreters.

59:00

And both shared how they began signing.

59:03

Council members expressed their

59:05

gratitude for their services. One

59:07

question was asked regarding why Halcyon

59:10

decided not to move forward with their

59:13

professional services agreement for

59:15

2026.

59:17

Um so Halcyon is our previous sign

59:21

language interpretation service.

59:23

Um and they just decided not to renew

59:26

their professional services agreement

59:28

for 2026.

59:30

Um there was no major issue with their

59:32

decision or the services that they

59:34

provided. We wish them the best of luck

59:38

in their future endeavors.

59:40

Um, so as a result, we are individually

59:44

contracting with Mr. Boger and Ms.

59:46

Shiber.

59:47

I encourage my colleagues to support

59:49

both resolution 7 of 2026 and resolution

59:54

8 of 2026 to ensure Harrisburg City

59:57

Council continues its inclusive efforts

1:00:00

to reach all of the residents within the

1:00:03

City of Harrisburg. This concludes the

1:00:05

administration committee report. The

1:00:08

next report you will hear will be

1:00:09

delivered by our public works committee

1:00:12

chair, Councilman Rodriguez, on the work

1:00:14

session of February 3rd, 2026.

1:00:18

Thank you, Madam President. And um,

1:00:20

before I begin my report, I'd just like

1:00:22

to wish everyone a happy Black History

1:00:24

Month. And um, with that, I just wanted

1:00:27

to acknowledge a recent video um,

1:00:31

pretty much condemning it by the very

1:00:33

own president of the United States,

1:00:35

including a jungle theme with our former

1:00:37

president and first lady. Uh, this video

1:00:39

was highly offensive and it's a shame

1:00:41

that this was allowed to be posted on

1:00:43

the personal social media pages of the

1:00:45

POTUS. This further exemplifies a

1:00:47

continuous racist dialogue and outlook

1:00:49

from our federal administration. This

1:00:51

needs to be addressed more than what it

1:00:53

currently is. Also, um, as a Latin man,

1:00:56

I'd like to acknowledge the dangers uh,

1:00:58

that comes within the cooperation of

1:01:00

ICE. And I do not want to be one of the

1:01:03

ones that's looked at as standing still

1:01:06

or being quiet on the subject. I do

1:01:08

recognize with the last name of

1:01:09

Rodriguez, I myself am only one door

1:01:12

knock away from being dragged away from

1:01:14

my very own family or the children that

1:01:16

bear my last name. So, I'm very

1:01:17

cognizant and very deliberate when I

1:01:19

speak against ICE. Just please

1:01:21

understand to the residents and those

1:01:23

watching from home, we have to be very

1:01:24

meticulous and careful on how we address

1:01:27

things like this. This way, we measure

1:01:29

twice and only have to cut once.

1:01:31

On February 3rd of 2026, the public

1:01:34

works committee met to consider two

1:01:36

resolutions. Our city engineer, Mr. Joel

1:01:38

Seider, was present and represented the

1:01:40

administration for both. Resolution 6 of

1:01:43

2026 concerned the Greenlight Go Grant.

1:01:46

This project includes improvements to 13

1:01:49

signalized intersections along the 13th

1:01:51

Street and Market Street corridor. The

1:01:53

proposed upgrades focused on improving

1:01:55

safety and alleviating congestion in

1:01:57

that area. While some intersections

1:02:00

may receive ADA compliance upgrades,

1:02:02

specific locations have not been yet

1:02:04

identified. One question by Councilman

1:02:07

Lawson was raised uh, pretty much about

1:02:09

the ADA improvements, but Mr. Joel

1:02:11

Seider says at this point, we have not

1:02:14

identified any that needed. Uh, also for

1:02:16

discussion was resolution 9 of 2026 that

1:02:19

involved a federal grant application to

1:02:21

fund the design phase of a major

1:02:23

transportation project. The project area

1:02:25

included 2nd Street through 7th Street,

1:02:27

Cameron Street through 25th Street and

1:02:30

the 17th and Market Street corridor

1:02:32

extending to Paxton Street. The grant

1:02:34

request totaled 3 million and

1:02:35

incorporates traffic calming measures,

1:02:38

curb bump-outs, a road diet, and a

1:02:39

multimodal transportation approach.

1:02:42

Council [snorts] discussion centered uh,

1:02:44

on concerns, especially from

1:02:45

Councilwoman Davis, on the ongoing

1:02:47

Market Street construction project and

1:02:49

the challenges it's created for nearby

1:02:51

residents. We conversed on the

1:02:53

possibilities of raising um,

1:02:54

communication efforts when it comes to

1:02:56

large CRW projects and other entities'

1:02:59

projects within the city.

1:03:01

Uh, after that, no real questions were

1:03:03

raised by council, and I highly

1:03:05

encourage my colleagues to support both

1:03:07

resolutions on the evening. That

1:03:10

concludes the report from the public

1:03:12

works committee. Thank you.

1:03:14

Thank you, Councilman Rodriguez.

1:03:16

We have one ordinance for first reading,

1:03:18

bill 1 of 2026.

1:03:21

Mr. Truesdale, could you please read it

1:03:23

into the record?

1:03:26

Bill 1, 2026, an ordinance amending part

1:03:29

3 of the administrative code under

1:03:31

chapter 2-301, adding thereto chapter 3

1:03:35

-301.16,

1:03:38

providing for a framework to restrict

1:03:39

and otherwise limit city intervention in

1:03:41

matters regarding immigration status.

1:03:44

Thank you. Bill 1 of 2026 will move to

1:03:48

the public safety committee.

1:03:51

We do not have any ordinances for

1:03:53

amendment or ordinances for final

1:03:55

passage. We will move to resolutions.

1:03:58

The first resolution for consideration

1:04:00

this evening is resolution 3 of 2026.

1:04:04

Mr. Truesdale, could you please read it

1:04:06

into the record? Resolution 3, 2026, a

1:04:09

resolution approving the first proposed

1:04:11

2026 budget reallocation in order to

1:04:14

authorize the roll forward of certain

1:04:16

2025 budget year encumbered commitments

1:04:19

and to reaffirm certain 2025 capital

1:04:22

project and program appropriations.

1:04:27

Thank you.

1:04:35

I know, thank you.

1:04:37

I will entertain a motion to suspend the

1:04:39

rules for discussion. So moved.

1:04:43

So, it's been moved and seconded. Okay.

1:04:46

Um, we have before us resolution 3 of

1:04:49

2026.

1:04:53

Okay, thank you.

1:05:01

Solicitor Grover, will you be discussing

1:05:03

this resolution?

1:05:05

I can generally

1:05:08

Okay, thank you.

1:05:19

There is an amendment to resolution 3,

1:05:22

which is the first budget reallocation

1:05:23

and roll forward of the year. It's a

1:05:25

fairly simple amendment. We added a

1:05:27

schedule C,

1:05:29

which was the funding of refunding of

1:05:31

two positions in particular, the

1:05:33

business administrator and the

1:05:36

um,

1:05:37

learner administrator {slash} he's got a

1:05:39

very long title.

1:05:40

And he it's a very long title in the

1:05:42

budget, the learner administrator. And

1:05:44

the third position is a new economic

1:05:46

development director position. Um, and

1:05:49

uh, schedule C sets forth where the

1:05:50

money comes from, where it goes, which

1:05:53

which finance prepared this afternoon.

1:05:56

Uh, I would like to commend the council

1:05:57

and the mayor for coming to a resolution

1:06:00

on something that I think both sides

1:06:01

deeply Go ahead. deep views on and to

1:06:04

basically get us to a point where the

1:06:06

city could move forward.

1:06:10

Thank you. Mr. McKnighton, did you have

1:06:12

anything to add?

1:06:18

Thank you. Uh, good evening, uh, city

1:06:21

council members. Thank you, President

1:06:22

Hill.

1:06:23

Um,

1:06:24

just to follow up on uh, the city

1:06:26

solicitor's comments,

1:06:29

schedule or exhibit C is reflected to

1:06:33

what he's describing. It It It's uh,

1:06:36

all contained within the general fund

1:06:39

and also contained with uh, contained

1:06:41

within two specific budget units, namely

1:06:44

the office of the mayor,

1:06:46

which there is uh,

1:06:48

a proposed amendment that that includes

1:06:51

uh,

1:06:52

the the long title name for the director

1:06:55

of business development, learner

1:06:56

administrator, and then also the newly

1:06:59

thought out uh, position,

1:07:02

uh, community and economic development

1:07:04

director, to increase that line uh, by

1:07:08

approximately $146,400.

1:07:12

The other line pertains to the office of

1:07:14

the business administrator and reflects

1:07:17

the the salary for uh, the business

1:07:20

administrator for for 2026 proposed.

1:07:24

>> [snorts]

1:07:24

>> Um,

1:07:25

so again, the the the lines are similar.

1:07:27

It's salaries and wages and there's

1:07:29

related corresponding increases to the

1:07:32

payroll tax expense.

1:07:35

Uh, the total proposed expenditures for

1:07:37

for this exhibit uh,

1:07:40

uh, total to $301,761.

1:07:45

Again, all personnel. And then the

1:07:47

offset uh,

1:07:48

estimated resource match for that

1:07:50

includes the general fund revenue

1:07:52

uh, estimated cash carryover for um,

1:07:56

for accommodating that increase in

1:07:57

expense.

1:08:00

And that's

1:08:02

everything on on that uh, exhibit. Thank

1:08:05

you.

1:08:06

Thank you. Um, I will open the floor for

1:08:09

questions uh, from my colleagues. I'll

1:08:12

begin with our budget and finance

1:08:13

committee chair, Vice President Jones.

1:08:17

Uh, I really don't have a question. I do

1:08:19

want to make a motion to um, further

1:08:22

amend uh, resolution 3 of 2026.

1:08:26

Um, and I'll explain why why I want to

1:08:29

amend that. I want to take um,

1:08:32

by reallocating $20,000 from the um,

1:08:35

general fund

1:08:37

and placing it into

1:08:40

um,

1:08:41

uh, from removing it from the general

1:08:43

fund and placing into line item 4210

1:08:47

1 0 421010.

1:08:50

That's the legal services line

1:08:52

uh, for council. And the reason why I

1:08:54

want to do that is because um, you know,

1:08:56

sometimes it can be overwhelming. I I

1:08:58

feel for the law bureau that doesn't um,

1:09:01

we don't get really get a chance to get

1:09:02

some of our legislation through. I think

1:09:04

this will help take some of the strain

1:09:06

off of uh, the legal

1:09:09

you know, the solicitor's office um,

1:09:11

attaining that council for us to make

1:09:13

sure when we do draw up our resolutions

1:09:16

that are here to actually protect the

1:09:18

the residents of our city, that we get

1:09:20

that outside legal opinion to make sure

1:09:22

that we're not leaving ourselves

1:09:24

subjectable

1:09:26

um, for for any,

1:09:28

uh, lawsuits. So, um,

1:09:30

you know, I feel that it's very

1:09:31

important that we, uh, roll that at

1:09:34

least $20,000 from

1:09:36

um,

1:09:38

yeah, from the general fund forward. And

1:09:40

that's pursuant to

1:09:44

um, section 11610

1:09:47

of the Pennsylvania Third Class City

1:09:49

Code.

1:09:51

Um, so,

1:09:53

I don't know if I make that motion now.

1:09:54

I just wanted to explain why I wanted

1:09:56

to,

1:09:57

you know, uh, further amend resolution 3

1:10:00

of 2026.

1:10:03

Thank you. You'll formally make the

1:10:05

motion we when we resume the legislative

1:10:07

session.

1:10:09

Councilwoman Green, are there any

1:10:11

questions related to resolution 3 of

1:10:13

2026?

1:10:15

Thank you, President Hill. Um, only

1:10:17

questions I have, uh, one, if we can get

1:10:19

the exact salaries for the different

1:10:21

positions. It's kind of all clumped

1:10:22

together, but if we can get the exact

1:10:24

salaries for the project director, blah,

1:10:27

blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, and then

1:10:28

also the economic development director.

1:10:30

If we get the actual proposed salaries

1:10:32

for them,

1:10:33

um, and then since the economic

1:10:35

development director,

1:10:36

um,

1:10:37

wasn't in the budget and the position

1:10:39

control, is that something that has to

1:10:41

like actually open the budget back up to

1:10:43

add it in or how would that be put in?

1:10:45

Sorry, I have a cold if I sound nosey.

1:10:55

As as this resolution amendment is, uh,

1:11:01

based on what is now a motion before the

1:11:03

court, uh, and it's joint stipulation of

1:11:06

the council and the mayor, um,

1:11:08

based on the optional third class city

1:11:11

provision where there's a liberal

1:11:12

interpretation of the act in favor of

1:11:14

the city, uh,

1:11:16

it would seem that you would not have to

1:11:17

reopen the budget. And technically, you

1:11:19

really could not technically reopen the

1:11:20

budget. That's why it's attached to a

1:11:22

budget reallocation. There are instances

1:11:24

in the past when the mayor's office and

1:11:26

the council are in agreement to add

1:11:28

positions that become necessary in the

1:11:30

middle of the year without reopening and

1:11:32

and they've done it various ways. Um,

1:11:35

but this basically gives a directive to

1:11:36

HR, a directive to finance to add the

1:11:39

position. Um,

1:11:41

I don't have the math in front of me. I

1:11:43

don't know if Mr. McCutchen does.

1:11:45

The numbers for the positions are

1:11:47

exactly the same as proposed in the 2026

1:11:49

budget. The numbers for the uh, project

1:11:53

manager / lur person is the exact same

1:11:56

numbers. The salary number for the new

1:12:00

economic development director position

1:12:02

is a combination of the funding that was

1:12:04

in the community service, uh, director's

1:12:08

position plus the small portion that

1:12:11

came out of, uh,

1:12:13

the director of DBHED. Those two numbers

1:12:15

are simply combined. So, it's uh,

1:12:16

literally the exact same dollar numbers

1:12:19

that were in the

1:12:21

December budget that were taken out for

1:12:23

those things, put back into these three

1:12:25

positions.

1:12:26

But I don't I I can't tell you I have

1:12:28

them memorized which ones they are. So.

1:12:31

Um, I appreciate the sentiment if I

1:12:33

could still get it in writing because

1:12:34

when it's a clump, um, I just don't want

1:12:36

it to be that like now our project

1:12:39

director

1:12:40

position is making the same as a

1:12:42

building housing director position or

1:12:44

economic development director. I just

1:12:46

want to make sure that the the positions

1:12:48

and the salaries, uh, you know, just all

1:12:50

line up so that we can all be in

1:12:51

agreement. Not that after the fact it's

1:12:53

like, oh, we didn't realize that's what

1:12:55

the salary was.

1:12:56

>> I think you have a court order that does

1:12:57

that for you. Just but we'll get you the

1:12:59

exact numbers. I appreciate the numbers.

1:13:02

That's all I have for now.

1:13:04

Thank you. Councilman Lawson, do you

1:13:06

have any questions regarding resolution

1:13:08

3 of 2026?

1:13:12

Well, Council, uh, woman Green just

1:13:15

asked the question that I had on my

1:13:17

mind. I I just want to make sure that,

1:13:19

um, the person we put in that position

1:13:22

is is paid a a decent salary. So, I

1:13:25

would like to know what that salary

1:13:27

would be. Um, and and I guess it's as

1:13:29

simple as as going back and doing the

1:13:31

math, but, um, just as we sit here now,

1:13:34

I don't know what it would be and I

1:13:35

wanted to make sure that it was

1:13:37

something that, um,

1:13:39

would would work well with the position.

1:13:41

That's all.

1:13:42

Thank you.

1:13:44

Councilwoman Davis, any questions?

1:13:47

Thank you, President Hill.

1:13:49

I understand what's going on and I don't

1:13:52

have any questions at this time. Thank

1:13:54

you. Thank you. Councilman Rodriguez,

1:13:56

any questions? Um, no questions, Madam

1:13:59

President. Just more of a statement. I'd

1:14:00

just like to thank both the

1:14:02

administrative administrative and

1:14:04

legislative body for coming together and

1:14:06

coming to this conclusion to, uh, loosen

1:14:09

up some dollars for the taxpaying

1:14:10

citizens and getting back to business.

1:14:12

So, just my appreciations all around and

1:14:15

I look forward to getting back to

1:14:16

business. Thank you. Thank you.

1:14:18

Councilwoman Ross, any questions? Thank

1:14:21

you. Um, I don't have any questions. I

1:14:22

did have the same one as, uh,

1:14:25

Councilwoman Green did, just wanting to

1:14:27

know what the exact, um,

1:14:29

dollar amounts were for each position,

1:14:31

um, just so we have that and understand

1:14:33

as we move forward. And I also had the

1:14:36

same thought of, uh, amendment as

1:14:39

Councilman Jones did, just to make sure

1:14:42

that, um, we know sometimes the law

1:14:44

bureau gets overwhelmed and just making

1:14:46

sure that the resolutions that, um, we

1:14:49

have are able to be passed and put in

1:14:52

the place for the residents cuz they're

1:14:53

there to to keep them safe. So, um,

1:14:56

everything was on [clears throat] the

1:14:57

same line of what people already said,

1:14:59

council members already said, so I

1:15:01

didn't have any questions, but thank

1:15:03

you.

1:15:04

Thank you. Um, if there's no further

1:15:06

discussion, I will entertain a motion to

1:15:08

resume our legislative session.

1:15:10

>> Motion to resume the session.

1:15:13

I second that.

1:15:15

Oh, I'm sorry.

1:15:16

I'm sorry, I missed you. I was looking

1:15:18

at my colleagues. Missed you.

1:15:22

Yeah, thank you, President Hill. I just

1:15:24

wanted

1:15:25

to wait. So, um,

1:15:27

Vice President Jones, but just back to

1:15:29

your, uh, request and I I just want to

1:15:33

be sure I understand it. Uh, $20,000

1:15:36

increase in the legal line, but within

1:15:39

City Council's budget unit. Is that Is

1:15:41

that correct?

1:15:42

>> Yes.

1:15:42

>> And and just a just a, that's a budget

1:15:44

adjustment increase. Yes.

1:15:46

>> That's the extent of it. Yes. I mean, I

1:15:48

really I was looking at the line. Um, it

1:15:51

was it's 40,000 that we didn't use last

1:15:53

year. We could have just actually rolled

1:15:54

the whole 40 over, but, you know, we'll

1:15:57

we'll go with the 20.

1:15:58

Uh,

1:15:59

yeah, that's pretty much it.

1:16:00

>> Okay. And all right, yeah, thank you for

1:16:03

that. And then, uh,

1:16:04

Councilwoman Green, if you like, I can

1:16:06

comment verbally right now on the the

1:16:08

salaries or, you know, follow up to

1:16:10

what, you know, with your document,

1:16:12

documentation request. Yes. But but for

1:16:15

the director of business development

1:16:17

lurder administrator, the the, uh, the

1:16:19

proposed salary is is $67,784.

1:16:26

Uh, for the new community

1:16:28

Did you get that? Uh, okay. For the the

1:16:31

new position economic development wise,

1:16:33

that salary is $78,633.

1:16:41

And, um, the the business administrator

1:16:43

is, uh, is the listed on the

1:16:46

specifically on on on the exhibit.

1:16:48

That's $133,900

1:16:51

even.

1:16:55

And Mr.

1:16:56

Mr. McCutchen, just to be clear, um,

1:16:58

adding that 20,000 will bring our our

1:17:01

our line, uh,

1:17:02

to 60.

1:17:05

Okay. Currently as it as the budget

1:17:07

>> at 40, yes. And and moving that over

1:17:10

will make it 60. Okay. I appreciate that

1:17:13

extra clarification. Thank you.

1:17:16

That's that's all. Thank thank you,

1:17:17

President Hill.

1:17:18

Thank you. Is there any further

1:17:20

discussion?

1:17:22

Okay, seeing and hearing none, again,

1:17:24

I'll entertain a motion to resume our

1:17:26

legislative session. So moved. Is there

1:17:29

a second?

1:17:29

>> Second. Thank you. Before us, we have

1:17:31

resolution 3 of 2026. Mr. Truesdale,

1:17:35

could you please read it into the record

1:17:36

one more time?

1:17:40

Resolution 3, 2026. A resolution

1:17:43

approving the first proposed 2026 budget

1:17:46

reallocation in order to authorize the

1:17:48

roll forward of certain 2025 budget year

1:17:50

encumbered commitments and to reaffirm

1:17:52

certain 2025 capital project and program

1:17:55

appropriations.

1:17:58

Thank you.

1:17:59

Um, Council members, are there any

1:18:01

questions, comments, or concerns related

1:18:04

to resolution 3 of 2026 prior to the

1:18:08

introduction of the amendment? Uh, yes.

1:18:11

I again, I would like to make a motion,

1:18:14

um, to to further amend resolution 3 of

1:18:17

2026 by reallocating $20,000

1:18:20

from the general fund and adding it to

1:18:23

line item 421010,

1:18:25

Council's legal services line, pursuant

1:18:28

to section 11610 of the Pennsylvania

1:18:31

Third Class City Code. Second.

1:18:34

Thank you. Council members, are there

1:18:36

any questions regarding the amendment on

1:18:39

the floor?

1:18:42

Okay, seeing and hearing none, Mr.

1:18:44

Truesdale, could you please call the

1:18:45

vote on the amendment?

1:18:48

Ms. Davis?

1:18:49

Yes.

1:18:51

Ms. Green? Yes.

1:18:53

Mr. Jones? Yes.

1:18:56

Mr. Lawson?

1:18:57

Yes.

1:18:59

Ms. Ross?

1:19:00

Yes.

1:19:02

Mr. Rodriguez?

1:19:03

>> Yes.

1:19:04

Ms. Hill? Yes. The amendment passes by

1:19:07

vote of 7 to 0.

1:19:10

Okay, thank you. So, before us, we have

1:19:13

resolution 3 of 2026

1:19:16

as amended.

1:19:18

Council members, are there any further

1:19:20

questions, comments, or concerns related

1:19:23

to resolution 3 of 2026 as amended.

1:19:27

I

1:19:29

I just had a I just had a very quick

1:19:31

comment. I just really wanted to

1:19:35

congratulate

1:19:37

Council with being able to bring forth a

1:19:40

framework that included a framework

1:19:43

settlement that included an economic

1:19:46

development position because we see

1:19:51

the state that our city currently is in.

1:19:54

We see that economic development is a

1:19:56

huge part of what needs to be fixed

1:20:01

renovated

1:20:02

and brought to

1:20:05

a better position for our residents. So,

1:20:08

I just want to

1:20:10

just say thank you

1:20:12

to city council members for bringing

1:20:14

that abreast and for that being in the

1:20:17

reallocation for resolution 3 cuz it's

1:20:21

much needed. So, I just wanted to make

1:20:22

that comment.

1:20:24

Thank you, Councilwoman Ross.

1:20:25

Councilwoman Green.

1:20:27

Thank you, President Hill. I just want

1:20:29

to say thank you to to everyone who

1:20:31

worked on this.

1:20:32

I'm glad we made it this point where

1:20:34

we're able to have a resolution. We were

1:20:36

able to to come to an agreement with the

1:20:37

administration. I'm still disappointed

1:20:40

that it took lawyers to do so.

1:20:42

I would like to say thank you to to

1:20:44

solicitor's office for reaching out to

1:20:45

the the opposing sides and kind of

1:20:48

bringing them together to have that

1:20:49

conversation

1:20:51

because I think that I did help to move

1:20:52

things forward. Thank you to everyone

1:20:54

for being reasonable as we move forward

1:20:57

and just getting us to this point.

1:20:59

So, I'm glad we got here, disappointed

1:21:00

it it had to come this way, but looking

1:21:03

forward to moving forward with the

1:21:05

residents of Harrisburg for the best

1:21:06

services possible.

1:21:09

Thank you, Councilwoman Green. Vice

1:21:11

President Jones. Yes,

1:21:13

me as well. I'd just like to commend

1:21:15

everyone, the the residents all the

1:21:18

attorneys, everyone that reached out to

1:21:20

try to bring a um

1:21:22

you know, a peaceful resolution to the

1:21:23

issues that we were facing. But, I will

1:21:25

say that this is a new day for

1:21:27

Harrisburg. It's a shining moment for

1:21:29

us. I think with working alongside

1:21:31

administration, being able to resolve

1:21:34

these issues to make sure that our city

1:21:36

could move forward in the right

1:21:37

direction. I think this this was

1:21:39

important despite the the legal you know

1:21:44

the legal situation, but I think it's

1:21:46

huge and it stays says a lot to our

1:21:48

residents and to this council. Not only

1:21:50

this council, I want to commend each and

1:21:52

every one of you for standing firm and

1:21:54

making sure that we do the right thing

1:21:56

for our residents rather they understand

1:21:58

it or they don't, but I think this is a

1:22:00

great move. I think again a shining

1:22:03

moment for the city. We have been able

1:22:05

to put to bed some of the old practices

1:22:08

that were being going throughout some of

1:22:10

these administrations and I think we

1:22:12

have a bright future moving forward and

1:22:14

I really hope that this is the beginning

1:22:16

of a new day that we can really sit and

1:22:18

work with

1:22:19

our mayor

1:22:21

to actual to ensure that our city moves

1:22:23

in the right direction. Thank you.

1:22:26

Thank you, Vice President Jones.

1:22:27

Councilman Rodriguez. Thank you, Madam

1:22:29

President. I just wanted to reiterate

1:22:31

sentiments from our colleagues today

1:22:33

tonight. We're setting the precedent of

1:22:36

huge victory for the city as a total,

1:22:38

not one-sided,

1:22:40

not looking at this blinded, and I just

1:22:42

pray as I speak here on this day is that

1:22:45

the media perpetuates it as just,

1:22:48

not with any negative connotation or,

1:22:50

you know, buts and commas.

1:22:53

You know, the city is working together.

1:22:55

The city has figured it out. The city

1:22:57

has done it. Let's look at this in a

1:22:59

celebratory manner and I'd love to see

1:23:01

the headlines exonerate as such. That's

1:23:04

that's just my two cents on it.

1:23:06

Thank you, Councilman Rodriguez.

1:23:07

Councilwoman Davis. Thank you, President

1:23:10

Hill. I would just like to thank my

1:23:12

colleagues, the residents, and the

1:23:14

administration

1:23:16

for working together

1:23:19

and coming together at this point. I

1:23:21

mean, this could have dragged on and on

1:23:24

and on and cost the taxpayers a lot more

1:23:26

money. So, I'm pleased and I'm looking

1:23:29

forward to working with the

1:23:32

administration and with my colleagues

1:23:34

for the best interest of this residents

1:23:37

of this city.

1:23:39

Thank you.

1:23:41

Thank you, Councilwoman Davis.

1:23:43

Any other questions, comments? Okay, I

1:23:46

have a comment, so please bear with me.

1:23:53

I would like the meeting record to

1:23:55

reflect that Harrisburg City Council has

1:23:58

met this moment in time.

1:24:01

Harrisburg City Council initiated a

1:24:03

proposal.

1:24:05

Harrisburg City Council compromised.

1:24:08

Throughout this entire process, we've

1:24:11

kept the residents interests at the top

1:24:14

of our minds.

1:24:17

Three things that I'd like to highlight,

1:24:19

then I will read the framework that we

1:24:22

shared and what was agreed upon.

1:24:25

A stand-alone director of community and

1:24:28

economic development. Given the

1:24:30

discussion and desperate need to spur

1:24:33

economic development within the city of

1:24:35

Harrisburg

1:24:36

we feel a sole director of community and

1:24:40

economic development will assist in this

1:24:42

effort.

1:24:44

The practice of the current mayor and

1:24:46

future mayors of appointing interim

1:24:49

directors ends indefinitely.

1:24:53

Finally, an ordinance will be introduced

1:24:55

by Harrisburg City Council to stop

1:24:58

funding an acting or temporary

1:25:00

department head that is subject to the

1:25:03

advice and consent of the council beyond

1:25:07

120 days.

1:25:10

This victory is a collective victory for

1:25:13

Harrisburg City Council and the

1:25:15

residents of the city of Harrisburg.

1:25:19

You may not see it now, but later you'll

1:25:21

understand.

1:25:23

We are taking action to truly move this

1:25:26

city

1:25:27

forward.

1:25:29

I'd like to read our settlement

1:25:32

framework that we crafted and came to

1:25:35

the table with.

1:25:38

City Council agrees to fund, at that

1:25:40

time it was four positions.

1:25:44

A business administrator, a director of

1:25:46

economic development

1:25:49

and it was building and housing

1:25:52

development and LERTA administrator.

1:25:57

The mayor agrees that she will not

1:25:59

reappoint an individual to a a prior

1:26:01

role whether an acting interim, or

1:26:05

permanent basis at any point in time.

1:26:10

The mayor agrees to end the practice of

1:26:12

appointing interim department heads.

1:26:15

The Harrisburg City Administrative Code

1:26:17

of Ordinances is amended to include a

1:26:20

provision that the funding of an acting

1:26:22

department head ends automatically on

1:26:25

the 121st

1:26:27

day after their appointment unless the

1:26:30

appointment of such acting department

1:26:32

head has been subject to the advice and

1:26:35

consent of City Council.

1:26:39

The last point was funds are increased

1:26:42

for City Council to retain its own

1:26:44

special counsel on an as-needed basis.

1:26:47

Which was covered through the amendment

1:26:49

this evening.

1:26:51

Final settlement includes City Council

1:26:54

will fund three positions for the 2026

1:26:58

fiscal year through the budget

1:27:00

reallocation process. Specifically,

1:27:02

Council will allocate funding for the

1:27:05

previously defunded positions of

1:27:07

business administrator and project

1:27:10

director of business development and

1:27:12

LERTA administrator

1:27:14

and allocate funding to a new position

1:27:17

of director of economic development. The

1:27:20

latter two positions will be a direct

1:27:22

report to the mayor or mayor's designee

1:27:25

for the 2026 fiscal year.

1:27:29

Two.

1:27:30

The mayor and council agree to mutually

1:27:33

honor each other's respective roles of

1:27:35

mayoral appointment authority subject to

1:27:38

the advice and consent of the council

1:27:40

and in that spirit, the mayor will

1:27:43

identify and appoint a successor to fill

1:27:46

the role of business administrator.

1:27:50

Three. In addition, the parties agree

1:27:52

that the practice of the appointment of

1:27:54

an interim department head will be

1:27:57

discontinued.

1:27:59

If a vacancy in a department head

1:28:01

position will remain unfilled for a

1:28:04

period to exceed 120 days, the parties

1:28:08

agree to confer on the then available

1:28:11

options to meet the city's obligations

1:28:13

related to the specific department and

1:28:16

duties.

1:28:17

Four. The parties acknowledge that an

1:28:20

amendment to the codified ordinances of

1:28:22

the city of Harrisburg restricting or

1:28:24

otherwise limiting the expenditure of

1:28:27

public funds for an individual serving

1:28:30

in the capacity of an acting or

1:28:32

temporary department head that is

1:28:34

subject to the advice and consent of the

1:28:37

council beyond 120 days shall be offered

1:28:41

in the form of a 2026

1:28:43

bill for consideration by the council

1:28:46

and the public.

1:28:48

Five. Notwithstanding any of the above

1:28:51

statements and representations, it is

1:28:53

the express intention of the parties

1:28:56

that the mayor and the city council

1:28:58

shall each retain all powers and

1:29:01

authority granted to their respective

1:29:03

branches of local government by law.

1:29:08

So,

1:29:09

I just wanted

1:29:11

everyone to be clear on the framework

1:29:13

that Harrisburg City Council brought to

1:29:15

the table and the final settlement

1:29:20

agreement points that were

1:29:23

um

1:29:24

exercised today.

1:29:27

So, if there's no further discussion, we

1:29:29

have before us resolution 3 of 2026 as

1:29:33

amended. Mr. Truesdale, could you please

1:29:35

call the vote?

1:29:38

Ms. Davis?

1:29:39

Yes.

1:29:41

Ms. Green? Yes.

1:29:43

Mr. Jones? Yay.

1:29:46

Mr. Lawson?

1:29:48

Yes.

1:29:50

Ms. Rose?

1:29:51

Yes.

1:29:53

Mr. Rodriguez? Yes.

1:29:55

Ms. Hill? Yes. Resolution 3 of 2026

1:29:59

passes as amended by a vote of 7 to 0.

1:30:03

Thank you.

1:30:05

Next, we have resolution 6 of 2026. Mr.

1:30:08

Truesdale, could you please read it into

1:30:10

the record?

1:30:13

Resolution 6, 2026, a resolution

1:30:16

ratifying a Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

1:30:18

Department of Transportation Green Light

1:30:20

Go Grant Application and authorizing the

1:30:23

City of Harrisburg to execute any

1:30:25

agreements, forms, and documents related

1:30:27

to the award of $387,380

1:30:32

to update traffic signal equipment

1:30:34

within the Allison Hill neighborhood.

1:30:36

Thank you.

1:30:37

Council members, um

1:30:39

are there any final questions, comments,

1:30:42

or concerns related to resolution 6 of

1:30:44

2026?

1:30:47

Seeing and hearing none, Mr. Truesdale,

1:30:48

could you please call the vote?

1:30:51

Ms. Daniel or

1:30:59

>> [laughter]

1:31:03

>> Ms. Davis?

1:31:04

Yes.

1:31:08

Ms. Green? Yes.

1:31:10

Mr. Jones? Yay.

1:31:13

Mr. Lawson?

1:31:16

Yes.

1:31:18

Ms. Rose? Yes.

1:31:20

Mr. Rodriguez? Yes.

1:31:22

Ms. Hill? Yes.

1:31:24

Resolution 6 of 2026 passes by a vote of

1:31:27

7 to 0.

1:31:29

Thank you. Next, we have resolution 7 of

1:31:32

2026. Mr. Truesdale, could you please

1:31:34

read it into the record?

1:31:39

Resolution 7, 2026, a resolution

1:31:41

authorizing the City of Harrisburg to

1:31:43

negotiate and enter into a professional

1:31:45

services agreement with Elizabeth

1:31:47

Sheeber to provide sign language

1:31:49

interpretation services.

1:31:51

Thank you. Council members, are there

1:31:53

any final questions, comments, or

1:31:55

concerns related to resolution 7 of

1:31:58

2026?

1:32:00

Okay, seeing and hearing none, Mr.

1:32:01

Truesdale, could you please call the

1:32:02

vote? Ms. Davis? Yes. Ms. Green?

1:32:07

Yes. Mr. Jones? Yay.

1:32:10

Mr. Lawson?

1:32:12

Yes.

1:32:13

Ms. Rose? Yes. Mr. Rodriguez? Yes.

1:32:17

Ms. Hill? Yes. Resolution 7 of 2026

1:32:21

passes by a vote of 7 to 0.

1:32:23

Thank you. Next, we have resolution 8 of

1:32:26

2026. Mr. Truesdale, could you please

1:32:29

read it into the record?

1:32:32

Resolution 8 of 2026, a resolution

1:32:34

authorizing the City of Harrisburg to

1:32:36

negotiate and enter into a professional

1:32:38

services agreement with Joshua Balker to

1:32:41

provide sign language interpretation

1:32:43

services.

1:32:44

Thank you. Council members, are there

1:32:46

any final questions, comments, or

1:32:48

concerns related to resolution 8 of

1:32:50

2026?

1:32:52

Okay, seeing and hearing none, Mr.

1:32:53

Truesdale, could you please call the

1:32:54

vote? Ms. Davis? Yes. Ms. Green? Yes.

1:33:00

Mr. Jones? Yay.

1:33:02

Mr. Lawson?

1:33:04

Yes. Ms. Rose? Yes. Mr. Rodriguez? Yes.

1:33:08

Ms. Hill? Yes. Resolution 8 of 2026

1:33:12

passes by a vote of 7 to 0.

1:33:14

Thank you.

1:33:16

Finally, resolution 9 of 2026. Mr.

1:33:19

Truesdale, could you please read it into

1:33:21

the record?

1:33:22

Resolution 9 of 2026, a resolution

1:33:25

authorizing the submission of a grant

1:33:27

application to the United States

1:33:29

Department of Transportation Better

1:33:31

Utilizing Investments to Leverage

1:33:32

Development Grant Program for up to $3

1:33:35

million

1:33:36

to improve safety within four roadway

1:33:38

corridors to include Division Street,

1:33:40

North 6th Street, Market Street, and

1:33:43

South 17th Street. Thank you. Council

1:33:45

members, are there any final questions,

1:33:47

comments, or concerns related to

1:33:49

resolution 9 of 2026?

1:33:54

Okay, seeing and hearing none, Mr.

1:33:55

Truesdale, could you please call the

1:33:56

vote? Ms. Davis? Yes.

1:33:59

Ms. Green? Yes.

1:34:01

Mr. Jones? Yay.

1:34:04

Mr. Lawson?

1:34:05

Yes.

1:34:08

Mr. Rodriguez? Yes.

1:34:11

Ms. Hill?

1:34:12

Yes.

1:34:13

Resolution

1:34:15

passes by a vote of 7 to 0.

1:34:17

Thank you. Council members, is there any

1:34:20

old business for discussion? Yes, Madam

1:34:22

President.

1:34:23

>> Councilman Rodriguez.

1:34:24

>> Thank you. Just a legal question. Um

1:34:25

Solicitor Grover, just wanted to touch

1:34:27

base on where we were with the corner

1:34:29

store ordinance. Um I've been speaking

1:34:32

to many entities within the community

1:34:34

and they're looking forward to

1:34:35

supporting it. I know we've had some

1:34:37

hiccups, but found where it would live

1:34:39

in the code. Just wanted to see how soon

1:34:41

we'd be able to bring that down.

1:34:44

Uh we we can try to get it down in 2

1:34:45

weeks from now. We were pretty close. We

1:34:47

were just doing a cross-check on the

1:34:49

definitions in the code, uh which does

1:34:51

take a lot cuz there's definitions all

1:34:53

over the code.

1:34:54

I'll give you an example. It turns out

1:34:56

we have five definitions of the phrase

1:34:57

rooming house,

1:34:59

which we're dealing with because judges

1:35:00

care that we have five different

1:35:02

definitions of rooming house, and they

1:35:03

all got adopted at different points in

1:35:05

time. So, it's the same kind of we're

1:35:06

trying to avoid that and make sure that

1:35:08

we're clear we're clear on what it says.

1:35:10

But, we we've changed the section

1:35:11

originally proposed to a different part

1:35:13

of the code. We put put it in a

1:35:14

different part. Did all those parts

1:35:16

announce really just doing some due

1:35:17

diligence.

1:35:19

Do you Do you think this specific

1:35:20

legislation would need I'm not sure,

1:35:23

maybe a communications

1:35:25

type of scenario to have maybe input

1:35:27

from different businesses? So, so I

1:35:30

think whenever you're putting upon a

1:35:32

business or anyone that something new in

1:35:34

terms of responsibility,

1:35:36

and and just like the I I talked about

1:35:38

this with the Council President with the

1:35:40

the immigration-related one, it really

1:35:42

is valuable to have public input about

1:35:45

what the people affected will think, you

1:35:47

know, from various perspectives. You

1:35:49

know, what one neighbor wants, maybe the

1:35:50

next neighbor doesn't, but I think

1:35:52

Council, the more you can more input you

1:35:54

can get cuz you're really the voice of

1:35:56

of the people here when you're doing it.

1:35:58

Um and I think it helps balance it, you

1:35:59

know, we think we know what people want,

1:36:01

but but it's good to hear from them.

1:36:03

Absolutely. All right, thank you for

1:36:04

that. Nothing further, Madam President.

1:36:07

Thank you, Councilman Rodriguez.

1:36:09

Councilwoman Rose? Yes, I was going to

1:36:12

piggyback off of that note of

1:36:13

communication. I just wanted residents

1:36:16

to know that bill 1 of 2026, if they

1:36:19

were under the impression it was going

1:36:20

to be spoke about tonight, I just didn't

1:36:22

want them to feel like um something went

1:36:24

wrong or it was taken off of the agenda.

1:36:27

Just to know the process, we read it in

1:36:29

for first reading, but it will be talked

1:36:30

about during our work session um next

1:36:33

Tuesday at 5:30, where

1:36:35

please come for public input to speak

1:36:37

about um how you feel about that bill,

1:36:41

um any recommendations for amendments,

1:36:43

or if you like it as it stands. We

1:36:45

really want to hear from residents about

1:36:47

all um bills, resolutions, or ordinances

1:36:49

that come in front of us, but just so um

1:36:51

residents know about bill 1.

1:36:55

Thank you. Any other old business for

1:36:57

discussion, Council members?

1:36:59

Okay, seeing and hearing none, any new

1:37:01

business?

1:37:07

Okay, I don't have any new business

1:37:09

either. The time is 7:46 p.m. I will

1:37:13

entertain a motion to adjourn.

1:37:16

>> Is there a second? Second. Thank you. We

1:37:18

stand adjourned.

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