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Harrisburg City Council - Work Session April 2nd, 2024

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p.m. I would like to officially call our

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work session to

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order Mr Parker can you please call the

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rooll

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yes Miss

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Daniels Ms Davis

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present Ms Green

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present Mr Jones here M rolls

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present Mr

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Rodriguez Mr

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Rodriguez I know that he is

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on

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I'm going to Mark him and move on

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because I know he's here on through the

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uh there we go and Miss Bowers president

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thank

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you just a few notes before we

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begin you will hear from a few of the

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Committees this evening in terms of

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quarterly reporting for the

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administration committee uh we will not

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hear from the office of equity and

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compliance this evening and for the

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community and economic development

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committee we will not hear uh from the

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Bureau of

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planning just wanted to make those notes

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for anyone following along with our

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agenda so we will begin with the work of

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the administration committee our first

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quarterly report for the first quarter

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of

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20124 will be shared from the Bureau of

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Information Technology

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good evening City Council I'm Steve

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bortner IT director and I'll give the uh

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update on the first quarter for the

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Bureau of it uh

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description of the

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department um the Bureau of information

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Technologies is responsible for the

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administration of the city's blend of

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Mainframe Network and cloud-based

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computer systems and these systems are

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utilized by All City departments and

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bureaus uh the bureau provides technical

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support and maintenance for all

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computers

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and other devices deployed throughout

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the city which includes Network

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equipment and city issued cell

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phones uh the bureau also partners with

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various organizations to extend and

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expand the technological capabilities of

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the city's operations and this includes

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local state and National organizations

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as well um evaluating emerging

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Technologies assists with the process of

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modernizing and streamlining City

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systems

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uh daily responsibilities include Dem

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monitoring troubleshooting and

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resolution of help desk tickets which

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are submitted through the support portal

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uh server activity antiv virus activity

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cyber threats uh printer services and

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software

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deployments uh quarterly summary uh the

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team completed 867 help desk tickets in

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the first quarter which is an increase

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of 155 since the fourth

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quarter uh update on the operation

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Municipal migration project um as you

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know it's a six-phase project two of the

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phases are completed three are active

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and one has not yet been

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started uh the active phases are human

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Capital Management uh scheduled

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implementation either the third or

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fourth quarter of this year we have run

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into some issues some processing issues

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primarily around uh the filing reporting

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and remittance of income taxes and we

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are working through those

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um as we go

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forward the next active phase is tax

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billing and Collections and we're

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scheduled to implement that in the

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second

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quarter uh licenses permits and codes

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enforcement uh scheduled to be

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implemented probably in the July time

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frame at this point and one of the

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phases we completed in the last or in

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this quarter is asset maintenance uh

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that was completed for the vehicle

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maintenance center and now that that

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phase is uh in production we can add

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additional departments um if the need

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arises for

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that on the phase that we haven't

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started yet is utility billing and

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collections uh we will get started on

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that in this quarter um and at this

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point we think that should be

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implemented by the end of the

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year um there are about 40 city

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employees working on the project and so

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far through uh last week they reported

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7,073 hours to the project

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project uh annual goal updates uh we

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completed the implementation of the core

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switch replacement um and that was to

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replace some aing equipment one that we

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started uh late last year and wrapped up

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this quarter in the first quarter uh we

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also implemented a new network

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management and monitoring system which

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will help to identify any unusual

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traffic on the city's

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network uh we also began implementation

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of a multiactor

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authentication solution uh some of you

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may be familiar with that but eventually

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that'll be rolled out to all city

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employees uh we also began the

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implementation of a new storage area

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network which replaces one that is

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expiring or going out of support later

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this

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year and then the last uh Big Goal that

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we uh started was the implementation of

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our secondary redundant data center

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which will be housed at another city

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location and part of the storage area

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network will also be deployed to that uh

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location and we still need to establish

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communication lines between this

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building and that location which we're

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working

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on a year-to-date spend uh the salary

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budget um is 579,000 and through the

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first quarter we've expended uh

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21.85% of that uh Services the budget is

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$1.42 million and we've expended or

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encumbered

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37.14% of that through the first

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quarter uh the supplies budget is 642

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th000 and we've expended or incumbered

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39.5 2% of that and the capital budget

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is

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$879,000 um and so far we've expended 40

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or encumbered

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43.7% of that and and some of these

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percentages may seem a little high um

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but the reason for that we encumber for

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the whole year on some of the items so

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that's why it's uh a little bit inflated

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for the first

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quarter and there were no significant

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deviations from the plan budget and we

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don't anticipate any at this

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time uh special projects and grants uh

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there were no special projects that

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involve grants in the first quarter and

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the updates on the other ongoing major

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projects were identified earlier in the

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report uh Department vacancy updates uh

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the good news is as of the end of the

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first quarter uh there were no in

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positions so we are fully staffed at

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this

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time and Community engagement

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interaction and communication um our

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deputy director Nathan grumbine he

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participated in a segment of 10

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questions which was filmed by the Bureau

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of communications and that segment is

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uh available on the city's YouTube

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channel and that's the report any

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questions thank you very much um I don't

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have any questions of regarding your

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report I will open the floor to my

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colleagues they may have some I'll begin

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with councilman Jones any questions yes

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thank you president Bowers um just a

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just a quick question um and get a

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little bit uh better understanding of

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the utilities and colle collections how

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is that going to work and that's

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throughout the Departments here so the

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utility billing and collection will be

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for the trash um collection that we

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currently build for every month so it'll

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basically replace the existing system on

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the main frame today that's what I was

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figuring I was hoping so so this will

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help uh Mr Miller a lot more and his

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Department um it should uh right now

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we're still going to continue with

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monthly billing until a decision is made

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or a resolution passed to go to annual

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billing um but the new system will allow

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either one of those to be done so you're

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saying if if the resolution is passed or

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created and brought down for us so this

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would take away the paper um it would

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take away some of the paper um we would

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still offer the ability to get the paper

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bill but we'd also offer the ability to

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get it electronically sent to you so the

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current system does not allow for that

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the new system will okay all right no

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more questions thank you and great

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report

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too thank you councilman Rodriguez any

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questions no questions for me Madam

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president thank you thank you

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councilwoman R any questions thank you

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president um Bowers uh thank you for

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being here today Mr borner I don't have

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any questions thank you for your report

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thank

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you thank you vice president green any

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questions thank you very much I

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appreciate you being here tonight I

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don't have any questions okay thank you

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C councilwoman Davis any questions yes

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thank you president Bowers good

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evening I was wondering uh was taking a

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look at the uh Information Technology

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report that was in the budget book uh

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the Consulting Services what uh would

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those

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entail the primary one is for Steve

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Zimmerman who is a former city employee

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who is back doing Mainframe Consulting

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work to help us continue with day-to-day

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operations but also help with the

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migration to the new system so that's

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135,000 of that the others are in there

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kind of is a contingency in the event we

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need to use them for other activities

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and then the other question is the

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contracted Services would the Consulting

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fall in under that in some type of way

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okay so that's separate okay thank you

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thank

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you thank you councilwoman Dan any

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questions yes the city just uh changed

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or zoning code to allow for electronic

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no this um which is a significant

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reduction in due process rights for our

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residents what is our capacity to

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actually be able to meet those

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obligations uh I'm not familiar with

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that at this point so I don't know the

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details of it so I really can't give you

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a good answer on thank you that's it

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thank you thank you very

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much next we will receive re the

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quarterly report for the first quarter

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of

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2024 from the Bureau of

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communications

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for

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good evening Council good

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evening starting with a brief

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description of uh the communications

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Bureau for the

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record uh the Bureau of communications

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manages all internal and external

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Communications throughout city

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government operations uh it is

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responsible for all Graphics vid photos

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videos audio and Information Services

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we're also responsible for the city's

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311 system and Atrium help desk Zen desk

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uh the bureau organizes all news

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conference we issue uh press releases

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media advisories uh we update um the

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public through our social media channels

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as well we also have a Weekly Newsletter

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which goes out to 3,800 recipients uh

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the Bureau of communications also

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manages whbg Channel 20 which is our

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government access cas c channel uh the

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bureau manages relations with adjacent

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government agencies as well to ensure

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compliance with the city's cable

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television franchise agreement uh

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which I imagine you'll have questions on

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later and uh we'll be able to hopefully

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provide some clarity

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there the communication bureau's main

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project through the first quarter of

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2024 was beginning the process to hire a

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company to redesign our City's website I

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formed a team which included Deputy

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Information Technology director Nathan

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grumbine procurement manager Hillary

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green and economic development director

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Jason Graves as he has experience with

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web designs and other best practices

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when it comes to design work we received

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inquiries from more than 30 companies

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and of that group we met virtually with

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eight before deciding on a company

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called revise they met our most

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important needs of specializing in

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government websites and working with the

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word processing and design base on our

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current website which is called

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WordPress

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um they put together a quote which also

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came in under our $20,000 budget and

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they will help redesign Harrisburg

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pa.gov to make it faster more Ada

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accessible and easier to navigate on

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mobile

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devices Channel 20 started the new year

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with a brand new set and our first guest

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on set was The Honorable councilman

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Lamont Jones thank you sir we continue

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to tape segments for our show what's the

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word Harrisburg where we put a spotlight

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on people and events making a difference

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in the Harrisburg community in addition

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to what's the word we have also started

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a new segment which I spoke about

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briefly in my uh quarter 4 report um

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earlier this year aser Johnson and Emily

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spec have been crafting their new

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segment called 10 questions which allows

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people to get to know City staff in a

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more personal and fun way they have

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produced five episodes so far with more

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scheduled Channel 20 also produced a

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30-minute mental health special in

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conjunction with upmc's minutes matter

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initiative this was a follow up to our

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September special on the overdose crisis

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we experienced in how to administer

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Narcan we plan to do segments with UPMC

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in the future focused on CPR training

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and stop the bleed techniques as well

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the channel 20 team produced a total of

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39 videos in quarter 1 and according to

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our YouTube analytics totaled 16,500

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views for the past quarter which is up

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11% from the fourth quarter of

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23 with the help of the facilities team

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as you saw when you walked in into the

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Martin Luther King building this evening

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when guests come in not only are they

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welcomed by large television monitor

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showcasing City events and content

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airing on channel 20 as well as Flyers

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of upcoming events that the Parks and

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Recreation team are putting on but uh we

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put in Shades in our bay windows which

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will allow us to convert this previously

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underutilized space into a home for

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press events and weddings we also have

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the Martin Luther King Jr museum display

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cases and photos of memorabilia now in

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the center of the atrium so it can be

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more prominently featured the city's 311

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help desk is continuing to work in the

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first quarter of 24 we solved 210

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tickets up from the 150 solved in the

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previous quarter as of last Wednesday we

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had 12 tickets pending major credit here

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goes to Aisha Hernandez who oversees the

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311 system and speaking of Aisha she and

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Jeff Washington do incredible work

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maintaining and presenting City Hall

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guests with respect uh and a smiling

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face when they come into the building

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since the first week of February when we

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started keeping track of this stat 2686

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guests have come into the MLK building

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that is on average 383 guests per week

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similarly my Deputy communications

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director Melissa Mahones Ortiz is in the

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process of becoming a certified Spanish

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translator with the American translation

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Association she assisted residents with

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100 cases in the first quarter of the

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year translated 15 documents into

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Spanish for the codes Bureau and health

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office and 56 description briefs for the

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Departments throughout city government

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we continue to provide daily Outreach to

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the public through our relationships

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with local press and social media we

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hold weekly press briefings with

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Harrisburg Police Lieutenant Kyle gouch

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to maintain a transparent line of

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communication with our local journalists

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in the first quarter of 2024 the city

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posted 38 new articles and press

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releases to the city's latest news

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section on the website we also post all

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press releases and City News to our

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Facebook page which is up to nearly

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20,000 followers and in the first

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quarter of 2024 reached nearly 289,000

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total people which is up 36% from the

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fourth quarter of 23 and a total of more

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than 12,900 interactions such as

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reactions comments up 34% from the

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fourth quarter of last year our primary

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goal in 2024 just updating you on where

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things stand there we've already began

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the process of uh redesigning Harrisburg

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pa. gomgo excuse me we selected revised

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following our thorough review of more

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than 30 companies including eight

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virtual meetings and proposals revise is

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a minority business Enterprise their

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quote came in under our $20,000 budget

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which showed us that they were cost

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conscious we did reference checks with

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other cities as well and Burrows they

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work with including Carlile and

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similarly sized state capitals like

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Olympia Washington and De Moine Iowa

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their proposal indicat Ates a 21 to 27

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we development however when you factor

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in time on the front end for legal to

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review a contract and time on the back

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end for additional training we expect

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something towards the end of the year if

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not the first quarter of 2025 by the

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time we go live this is not something

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we're going to want to rush because this

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is going to be there for a long time we

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have completed our first quarter One

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goal of adding a new digital component

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to The Atrium reorganizing the MLK

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Museum and turning the underutilized

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portion of the windows into a press

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conference and wedding space we continue

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to work towards a new franchise

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agreement with Comcast the law Bureau is

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leading these efforts and we are in

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discussion with Comcast to hold a period

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of public comment so residents can share

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what they want to see out of their

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public city Channel at wbg we continue

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to work also with councilwomen RS to

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develop a new short series which is

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essentially a produced version of the

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upcoming events she reads into the new

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business of Council meetings uh we need

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to work through some opposing schedules

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but I'm confident that we can make

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something work through the first quarter

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of 2024 uh the communications Bureau has

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spent

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22.9% of its budget uh no unforeseen uh

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purchases the largest chunk of that

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still needs to be spent though $20,000

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set aside for a redesign of the city's

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website uh some Community engagement

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notes to tell you about we are

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constantly uh involved in the community

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by virtue of us having a camera uh and

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some of of the things that we have done

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throughout the first quarter of the Year

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include features on the city's ice and

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fire Festival the bunny blast which was

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held two weekends ago uh we did a

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special on read Across America week uh

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using City staff uh followed around

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mayor Williams as she visited Rand

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Academy for a Muffins with Miss and

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there's a lot more all you need to go is

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onto our uh YouTube channel and see the

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amount of work that Asher and Emily have

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uh put together uh lastly we did have a

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video uh which uh went semi viral uh on

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Tik Tok recently that we did with the

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Dolphin County uh recycling plant and

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the work that our Public Works team is

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doing um to take glass there now it's

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something that the recycle center wasn't

21:42

doing before our video uh that we put on

21:45

social media went semi viral not all the

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way viral but enough that uh we get a

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lot of uh compliments about that so that

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is uh the long way of showing you a lot

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of what we have been uh going on in our

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Communications Bureau for the first

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quarter of 2024 and I'm happy to uh

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answer any

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questions thank you for your report I do

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have a few questions before I open the

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floor to my colleagues first I wanted to

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revisit the

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website uh two questions regarding the

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website um I learned that I guess

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through um some market research or

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targeted marketing campaign um that the

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city receive the the city website

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receives more hits from people

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investigating the city over City

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residents I can't comment on that

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okay you share so much other data I

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thought you might be aware that that's

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occurring but okay um let's go to revise

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you mentioned that they are a a minority

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owned business where are they located

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Troy Michigan Troy Michigan yes

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okay and of

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the more than 30 companies um that you

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heard from how many were local when you

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say local do you mean city of Harrisburg

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or 717 Philadelphia

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area 717 Harrisburg uh there was one

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company that was based out of Lower

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Paxton Township outside of that I

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believe there was one in Center County

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um there were a couple in the

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Philadelphia area uh there were no

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companies that reached out to us that um

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were city of Harrisburg

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local thank

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you

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uh oh I wanted to revisit the slide you

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mention your deputy director you read

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100 cases but that noted 80 six cases

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were translated so I just wanted to

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confirm what the correct number

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was excuse me she assisted residents

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with nearly 100 cases in the first

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quarter of the year uh 15 documents I

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can go back very

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quickly 86 cases translated 42 of them

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were in codes 17 of them were 311

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questions 13 of them were zoning

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questions 10 mertile four Public Works

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in addition she translated 15 documents

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from the codes Bureau and health office

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and that's typically when she translates

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full documents that are uh those are

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multiple Pages worth of documents um not

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necessarily just a a page here and there

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uh and then description

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briefs

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um I can find out for you exactly what

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description briefs are and uh have her

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excuse me have her uh send examples to

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Council on the work that she is doing

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I'm curious I think that would be

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helpful um since we have a strong

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interest in being inclusive I I I will

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say this um I'd be happy to go into

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greater detail um off the Record due to

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her privacy but in the first quarter of

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the year she dealt with immense um

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personal family issues um which took her

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physically away from City Hall for an

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extended period of time so uh those

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numbers typically are higher um and I

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think you will see that in the second

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quarter of the Year oh no not

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discrediting any of her work at all I

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just wanted to confirm to make sure

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which number was accurate um and I think

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you meant Roland did I say Rand I don't

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know what you said I think I believe I

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said Rand pardon me Roland Academy okay

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thank you I don't have any other

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questions I'll open the floor to my

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colleagues thank councilwoman Daniels

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any questions no questions thank thank

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you thank you councilwoman Davis any

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questions thank you president Bowers no

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questions I just wanted to um commend

26:27

you and your staff on the read Across

26:29

America week I did see that online I

26:32

thought that was a nice feature for the

26:35

community and to you know watch all

26:38

the staff here at the city read so I see

26:43

a couple of them in the audience now but

26:44

it was really entertaining thank you for

26:46

that thank you vice president green any

26:49

questions thank you president Bowers I

26:51

think my questions were already asked so

26:53

I don't have any questions thank you

26:54

thank you thank you councilwoman Ross

26:56

any questions thank you president

26:58

barison thank you for being here I'm

27:00

director Menzel um I don't have any

27:02

questions I know uh we are trying to

27:04

work something out with a segment the um

27:08

our schedules and my schedule right now

27:09

is hectic so I look forward to us doing

27:12

something but no I don't have any

27:14

questions okay councilman Rodriguez any

27:19

questions um no not correct thank you

27:22

okay thank you councilman Jones any

27:25

questions

27:27

absolutely um how you doing today sir

27:30

I'm doing well yourself good uh my

27:32

question is and I know you seem to have

27:34

uh scheduling conflict with councilman

27:37

councilwoman Ros right now but I think

27:40

you and I touched on a couple

27:41

conversations where um we would like to

27:44

see some local not just some of the uh

27:47

resources that are here in the community

27:49

that some people may not be aware of I

27:51

think we can take full advantage of

27:53

Channel 20 with some um new nonprofits

27:57

and some of the ones that have been here

27:59

previously that may offer new services

28:01

and also um you know one of the big

28:04

things that uh we as a as a body are

28:06

looking to do is trying to increase some

28:08

of the participation with some of the

28:10

local vendors um with some of these

28:12

contracts that are coming into uh our

28:15

area um be nice to try to highlight some

28:18

of those individuals and give them an

28:20

opportunity kind of put their face out

28:22

there and their names out there um for

28:24

potential any potential um rfps or any

28:27

potential businesses that can um that

28:29

can be acquired through information like

28:31

that so how how could we be able to do

28:33

something like

28:36

that having that discussion uh in this

28:40

setting I mean we that's a discussion

28:42

that will take an hour it's something

28:44

that we absolutely ABS 100% yes um the

28:47

the great thing that I've discovered

28:49

about Channel 20 is that it is very much

28:52

a blank canvas and uh while over the

28:56

course of the last two years we have

28:59

started to color it in a little bit uh

29:02

there is so much untapped uh potential

29:05

that we could use it for uh I have to be

29:08

careful just in full honesty that um I'm

29:12

not overworking Asher and Emily uh it is

29:15

a two-person team I try to help out

29:16

where I can given my uh TV background my

29:19

ability to step behind the camera uh

29:22

from time to time uh but at the same

29:24

time our schedules right now are very

29:26

full as uh councilwoman RS alluded to uh

29:30

that being said I never say no to

29:34

anything there's always a work around at

29:36

the end of the day it is the city's

29:38

Channel um and city council as a

29:41

representative of the people absolutely

29:43

should have a say and in the contents

29:45

that goes out there so I am uh 100% uh

29:48

looking forward to having those

29:50

conversations with you and other members

29:51

of Council on ways we can add additional

29:53

content to channel 20 all right I just

29:56

would cut in to say um because it kind

29:58

of answers your question with the

29:59

segment I want to do with director

30:01

maelle is to kind of boost up what we

30:05

what the community is doing for them to

30:07

come on for interviews and say what um

30:10

what's happening this weekend and if

30:12

they're having program to come on and

30:14

talk about it but also if their

30:15

businesses within the community for them

30:17

to come on and speak about their

30:19

business to show our community and

30:21

residents and business owners um some I

30:25

don't want to just say respect but being

30:26

able to publicize our El and say these

30:29

great things that are happening so that

30:31

might go a little towards what you're

30:33

saying absolutely that but that's the

30:35

segment we're trying to get worked out

30:37

that I call that turning the lights on

30:39

to the city turn yes that would be a

30:42

good name for it we're brainstorming

30:43

here here we go letting people know

30:45

what's happening here um you know there

30:47

are a lot of things and a lot of

30:48

services that people Miss from I would

30:51

say the typical way that we communicate

30:54

today um so I think this would just be a

30:56

great idea but I would think we could

30:58

have these conversations and I think

30:59

something once every other quarter or

31:02

something like that just not to bombard

31:03

you or overwork your staff um so yeah I

31:07

look forward to having those

31:08

conversations thank

31:10

you thank

31:12

you as I mentioned prior to the start of

31:16

the meeting there will be no quarterly

31:18

report for the office of equity and

31:20

compliance received this evening we will

31:23

now move to the building and housing

31:25

committee I will defer to our building

31:27

and housing committee

31:29

chair chair

31:34

Davis thank you president

31:38

Bowers director Hill is here this

31:41

evening and she will give our give our

31:43

our her report for the building and

31:46

housing committee good evening director

31:48

Hill good

31:52

evening it's

31:56

okay

32:26

for

32:37

good evening everyone uh Denise Hill

32:39

director of department of building and

32:41

Housing

32:42

Development uh

32:45

for the description again this is the a

32:49

full description of the Department of

32:52

dbhd uh just wanted to Simply highlight

32:55

that dbhd uh is the oversight and

32:58

administration of four main HUD funded

33:01

programs those are lead cdbg home

33:05

program and ESG and cdbg is Community

33:08

Development block grant and then ESG is

33:11

emergency Solutions

33:18

Grant uh next for the quarterly summary

33:21

for quarter 1 of 2024 we see uh

33:25

highlights events achievements and

33:27

change here just wanted to um highlight

33:30

for the record five programs were

33:33

appropriated under resolution 17 2024

33:36

within the last couple of weeks so that

33:38

is related to the American Rescue plan

33:41

act funds for

33:43

arpa and then also for Home Development

33:47

we have received three applications uh

33:49

these are the First new applications

33:51

that we've received probably since

33:54

2018 so um we are current we have home

33:59

development construction projects

34:01

underway but those were the 2018 2019

34:05

projects so we have three new ones that

34:07

are currently under

34:14

review and then here you'll see the

34:16

progress towards the annual goals Broad

34:18

Street Market um as everyone is aware um

34:21

is under underway and in reconstruction

34:25

after the uh tragic f fire back in July

34:29

um so just wanted to update that the

34:30

temporary structure is close to opening

34:32

to the public and then you may have seen

34:35

that there were donations that came in

34:36

to also positively impact the stone

34:39

building over the last couple of weeks

34:42

and then I definitely wanted to

34:43

highlight Capital Area Coalition on

34:45

homelessness in the winter overnight

34:47

shelter that's what ran from December

34:49

1st to March 31st recently closed and so

34:54

um closeout numbers will be forthcoming

34:56

so the organizations that ran those are

34:58

compiling the final numbers to show how

35:01

many individuals and families were

35:02

served throughout that time

35:07

period and here I cleaned up numbers

35:11

from the last quarterly report as you

35:14

know our our federal fiscal year is

35:16

different than the calendar year and

35:17

different than the city's uh fiscal year

35:20

so what you see here shows the true

35:24

year-to-date spend for January 1 to

35:27

April I'm sorry March 31st of

35:31

2024 we're on track to um to be spending

35:35

and making sure that we are um hitting

35:38

as far as benchmarks throughout the year

35:40

for for the calendar

35:47

year I just wanted to REM mention again

35:50

the blueprint communities kickoff uh we

35:53

have an event coming up April

35:56

29th um um that is a grant it's a

36:00

collaboration um to do some upgrades in

36:04

the Allison Hill section of the city and

36:08

then also choice neighborhood planning

36:10

grant that is still underway that's a

36:12

two-year project um so the early Action

36:16

project I just wanted to highlight in

36:18

that Grant of

36:20

$500,000 there is a $200,000 that is set

36:24

aside for an early Action project so

36:27

that essentially is for something um

36:31

tangible and visible that the residents

36:34

of hoer home and Hall Manor area of the

36:36

city will be able to see progress moving

36:39

forward until the implementation Grant

36:41

is applied for and the implementation

36:44

Grant is what if once applied and

36:48

awarded would be the actual construction

36:51

of the housing units so the planning

36:53

Grant is to reimagine it but the

36:55

implementation Grant would be what the

36:57

actual

36:58

construction would be and then the

37:00

coordination with the county on the home

37:03

ARP so that is different than the home

37:06

development and then uh the county

37:08

released their application yesterday and

37:12

um as you all are aware the city

37:16

received 1.75 million and that would be

37:19

going towards as recommended would be

37:21

going towards four housing Pro uh

37:24

projects that fit the criteria um to

37:28

bring those to fruition so again just

37:31

for the record that's the veterans of

37:33

Pennsylvania tiny home Village Brethren

37:36

housing Thrive housing and Harrisburg

37:39

Fair Housing

37:44

Council uh the compliment Remains the

37:46

Same as last quarter within the

37:48

department there haven't been uh any

37:50

changes as far as

37:53

Staffing so that is is

37:56

there

38:01

and then lastly this is again the ways

38:04

that uh we communicate with the with the

38:07

community at this time so we did not

38:10

participate in any major events during

38:13

this last quarter so um that's the only

38:15

change from the the last presentation I

38:18

did I'm happy to answer any

38:26

questions

38:31

thank you director Hill for your report

38:33

uh I will open up for questions and I

38:36

will start to my right with councilwoman

38:38

Daniels do you have any questions no

38:40

questions thank you thank you

38:42

councilwoman green thank you uh I don't

38:46

really have many questions um I do have

38:48

one I guess kind of question about the

38:49

choice neighborhood planning Grant sure

38:51

um if I'm correct that's supposed to

38:53

Encompass more than just like the

38:54

projects in South Harrisburg right it's

38:56

supposed to Encompass like the

38:57

surrounding communities as well yeah so

39:00

technically it is South Harrisburg so

39:02

the uh hooer homes was what actually

39:06

qualified for the actual HUD Grant but

39:09

the grant is to positively impact the

39:12

immediate adjacent Community okay um I

39:15

was just wondering what Outreach has

39:16

been done to the adjacent Community um I

39:18

know when speaking with a lot of the

39:19

residents they don't even know this is

39:20

going on so uh a lot has been so there

39:24

was a survey that was um sent out it was

39:27

voluntary to submit and give back um

39:30

there are community events that are held

39:33

just about every other month or so um

39:36

there are like family engagement nights

39:38

that are also held um and then a lot of

39:42

the communication in writing has been

39:44

within hooer and uh Hall Manor and

39:48

that's just because that's going out in

39:49

communication directly from HHA okay um

39:53

I would just suggest maybe the city

39:54

could be a little more proactive and

39:55

helping to get some of the information

39:57

out adjacent communities uh even and

39:59

like the trash billing um perhaps just

40:02

narrowing it down to like that specific

40:04

ZIP code or something like that where

40:05

we're able to get some information out

40:07

to the communities um I live in the

40:09

community it's technically touched by

40:10

this and I've heard nothing outside of

40:12

what I've gotten like what I want out to

40:14

get myself um I talked to the project

40:17

manager and he didn't really seem

40:19

to recognize that it was supposed to be

40:21

outside of just um like the projects

40:24

area um so I think it's really important

40:26

to make sure the entire Community is

40:27

part of that buyin as well because um

40:29

it's going to be a big project so thank

40:31

you thank

40:32

you thank you president Bowers

40:38

questions um are you at Liberty to share

40:42

you noted that the market temporary

40:44

structure is closed to opening to the

40:46

public is there a definite date not that

40:49

I have no okay thank you

40:52

sure thank you councilwoman Ross thank

40:56

you uh Council Davis and good evening um

40:59

director Hill thank you for being here I

41:01

just have about two questions my first

41:03

question was a um I wanted to know is

41:06

there a um unhoused residence committee

41:09

is there a committee that um speaks

41:12

about some solutions or even areas of

41:16

concern that they're having which

41:17

includes them on the committee is there

41:19

a type of

41:21

committee yes um you're looking at most

41:25

of it um no um yes so outside of you

41:28

know the capito area Coalition on

41:31

homelessness um my office in in tandem

41:34

with several others here in City Hall so

41:37

as it relates to the encampments

41:40

specifically um I have gotten tremendous

41:43

support from the community services

41:46

division uh deputy chief young the

41:48

Harrisburg Police Department as a whole

41:51

um Public Works Dave West and his team

41:54

um we are meeting every other week with

41:57

uh stakeholders from here at the city

42:00

the county the state um as well as a

42:03

shelter providers so just this week

42:05

alone I probably have three or four

42:07

different meetings about um encampments

42:10

how we can

42:12

um assist with the issue making sure

42:16

that we are doing what we can um so as

42:23

you know City Hall is responsible for

42:25

Public Safety um sanitation um and fire

42:30

so the as far as the Human Services we

42:33

work very closely with the service

42:34

providers Dolphin County Human Services

42:37

um we have great partners and we are

42:39

meeting constantly with them and it's

42:41

not just me here at City Hall um so

42:44

there are actually a couple different um

42:48

not

42:51

official committees as as you call them

42:54

but absolutely there there are a ton of

42:57

there's a lot of meetings going on now

42:59

Within These and I guess I'm looking

43:02

more at a committee standpoint I

43:04

understand the meetings but just so that

43:07

the unhoused population has a voice

43:08

within those committees are they on any

43:10

of them where they're able to speak up

43:13

on what they need or what they want or

43:15

what they're looking at from the city

43:18

yes so it uh we do have representation

43:22

of unsheltered residents on the the

43:26

board of C that is actually a part of

43:28

the bylaws um so someone on the board

43:31

with voting uh rights has to be on on

43:35

the board um as well as I have talked to

43:39

um a number of current residents of the

43:42

encampment um to try to make sure that

43:45

um I keep saying that this is the plan

43:49

that the city rolls out for encampments

43:51

and our unsheltered uh neighbors is not

43:54

something that can happen to them but we

43:57

need to make sure that we are respecting

43:59

um the different needs there isn't going

44:01

to be you know one plan that works but

44:04

making sure that we are hearing directly

44:06

from you know because my perspective of

44:09

what will work and you know other

44:12

stakeholders just is is not there's no

44:15

cookie cutter answer for it so yes long

44:17

way to answer your question right no no

44:19

that that was that was fine I just

44:21

wanted to know if their voices were

44:23

being heard or if they were at the table

44:24

because it's hard to create solutions

44:27

for a group of individuals and if you

44:31

don't hear what they have to say right

44:32

so that's why I was I just wanted to

44:34

know and it's insensitive and

44:37

counterproductive to the resolution not

44:39

get anything done yes you don't know

44:41

what they need but thank you that um

44:43

answer my question my second question

44:45

was um when you said the early Action

44:47

Project like you said it's something

44:49

that that Community can see so would it

44:51

be something like um especially within

44:54

the Hoover homes like updating their

44:56

playground system D or

45:00

putting right did you say the pool yes

45:03

so the pool is actually one that has

45:05

been talked about extensively um as well

45:08

I'm trying to do something immediate cuz

45:09

those playgrounds I mean yes I took my

45:12

daughter there the other day and I was

45:13

like oh my gosh so one of the that one

45:16

of the um challenges if you will about

45:19

the playgrounds uh specifically is that

45:22

HHA is they have to monitor upgrade you

45:27

know and maintain those so we were

45:29

actually looking at uh playgrounds

45:32

within the actual community so just

45:34

outside of not just Hoover her home and

45:37

Hall Manor um so looking at one near the

45:41

green belt so that the entire Community

45:44

can uh positively you know be impacted

45:47

by it also another suggestion that was

45:51

looked into was uh providing assistance

45:54

to the third 13 Street Corridor so there

45:58

are some businesses along there just

46:00

down from fous um so being able to do a

46:04

community garden or help with the stores

46:07

there are at least two stores that are

46:09

currently um in there um recognizing

46:12

that that area is a food desert so

46:15

possibly looking at um beefing up access

46:19

to Fresh groceries okay okay so that's

46:22

what immediate action would look like

46:25

okay um and I think that was it because

46:29

um councilwoman green asked a question I

46:33

also had was are you what does that look

46:36

like for the adjacent neighborhoods are

46:38

they getting any

46:39

communication um so okay that's it for

46:42

me thank

46:44

you thank you councilwoman Ross

46:47

councilwoman Jones any

46:49

questions oh there yeah sorry about that

46:52

councilman Rodriguez any questions for

46:55

director Hill

46:57

yes thank you madam chair um thank you

47:00

director Hill for joining us this

47:01

evening um just to kind of echo the

47:05

sentiment of councilwoman rols uh is is

47:08

it mandated by policy or ordinance where

47:11

we have to use other providers or could

47:14

we kind of get Innovative then kind of

47:17

come up with our own providers for this

47:19

specific issue of the UNH housee

47:22

population uh it's not by Pilot or by

47:27

law of which providers can be utilized

47:32

now would it be something you'd be

47:34

willing to do to have like a pro

47:37

Harrisburg type of initiative or group

47:40

where we could actually come up with

47:42

some great Solutions not saying the

47:44

groups that are currently working on it

47:46

are not doing a great job I just feel

47:48

more should be done sooner um and I know

47:51

everyone's doing the best they can but

47:54

uh just my heart goes out as I know

47:55

everyone else's does but um yeah

47:58

sometimes it just kind of strikes me I

48:00

just I don't have the answer to that

48:02

Absolutely I'll email you first thing

48:03

tomorrow morning thank you um and then

48:06

also you said the improvements on

48:09

Allison Hill you know specifically what

48:11

they may be um is it by Moulder square

48:14

is it further down on towards the South

48:16

so the the specific uh location has not

48:20

yet been identified that's actually a

48:23

part of when um the the kickoff event

48:27

occurs um so there will be the basically

48:31

establishment of a committee that will

48:34

drive what those uh upgrades will be

48:38

awesome and then you had mentioned the

48:40

home ARP it's slightly different from

48:43

the Home Improvement could could you

48:45

just explain that a little bit more for

48:47

me please sure prior to the American

48:50

Rescue plan act funds the arpa funds

48:52

there were uh CV funds or covid relief

48:56

funds so we got it for cdbg ESG and then

48:59

also home the difference between home

49:02

development and home ARP home ARP um is

49:05

specific to there are only certain

49:08

organizations that can benefit from this

49:10

money because the regulations state that

49:12

it has to be for construction or

49:15

renovation of affordable housing for

49:18

individuals that are coming straight

49:20

into Street home coming out of Street

49:23

homelessness excuse me so um it's very

49:26

different than a developer coming in and

49:28

building affordable housing and getting

49:30

the subsidy it has to be an organization

49:33

um like the four that were named who are

49:36

transitioning

49:39

previously unsheltered individuals

49:42

directly into a housing

49:46

option got you would that also

49:50

include maybe offenders returning home

49:52

from prison um does that have like the

49:56

same benefit or would you have to be

49:57

strictly like unhoused for a certain

49:59

amount of time so you do have to be

50:01

unhoused and the there can be

50:05

individuals who are in that situation

50:07

that are uh transferring into it however

50:11

typically what happens is they are

50:14

already coming through a system and

50:15

they're they're working whether it's

50:17

parole or or something like that so we

50:19

don't find that it it's so much they

50:23

have to have a home plan so there aren't

50:26

really organizations that I am aware of

50:29

that are going straight from um the

50:32

system the prison system as far as

50:34

re-entry directly into unsheltered I do

50:37

know that it it does occur um but I'm

50:40

not aware I'm not currently working with

50:42

any organizations that are trying to

50:44

bridge that Gap gotcha gotcha thank you

50:47

director Hill no further questions thank

50:49

you uh councilwoman Jones question yes

50:53

thank you councilwoman

50:55

Davis uh director Hills just something

50:57

real simple um the cdbg and

51:02

um the ESG workshops yes is there a date

51:06

yes and I just breeed right past that

51:09

I'm so sorry so uh we just nailed down

51:12

that it will be in at the end of May um

51:15

we are currently looking at tentatively

51:18

May 21st and 22nd so just because the

51:21

times have not been uh solidified

51:24

exactly for folks to um participate but

51:28

we are going to have a save the date as

51:30

soon as the exact times we typically

51:32

offer four sessions um one in the

51:35

morning and one in the afternoon on both

51:37

days to accommodate schedules of

51:40

organizations okay and the um other part

51:42

of that is just can you give a quick uh

51:46

overview so our viewers and listeners

51:48

can hear what this is sure so Community

51:51

Development black Grant or cdbg are

51:53

funds that come in um at this point go

51:56

to nonprofit organizations that um we

52:00

have to either do LMI or LMA so that is

52:05

everything HUD funded in my office LMI

52:08

is low to moderate income individual and

52:11

then LMA is low to moderate um area so

52:16

they have to be able to receive the

52:19

funds they have to be serving um one of

52:22

those two categories so that's cdbg

52:25

we're thinking um after after school

52:27

programs case management wraparound

52:29

Services um anything along those lines

52:32

so you think of the nonprofit

52:33

organizations it's a subsidies so that

52:35

they are able to continue their

52:37

operations and um serve the the

52:41

community ESG is emergency Solutions

52:44

Grant those funds are specific for

52:47

homeless shelters so it is greatly

52:50

reduced of who can actually apply for

52:52

that um so th those are the YWCA

52:57

the Shalom House the Brethren housing

53:00

they have to be an actual emergency

53:02

shelter and then funds also go to um CCU

53:05

or Christian churches United so they

53:08

oversee the coordinated entry system for

53:11

the whole entire region um but anyone

53:14

access needing to access homeless

53:16

services are able to go to the help

53:18

office or CCU and then they are able to

53:21

um then kind of refer out so because

53:25

those fun are so limited on what they

53:28

can be used for um only certain

53:30

organizations are able to apply yeah

53:33

thank you I think that's important to

53:35

try to put that out there because a lot

53:37

of people that think that the city just

53:39

is absolutely doing nothing about some

53:42

of those uh issues with the unhoused and

53:45

um just explaining with those grants who

53:47

they affect and who are uh able to apply

53:50

for them I think is uh vital for for our

53:53

community to hear and that's a great

53:55

point that you make because when when

53:56

you see the numbers on the chart that

53:59

was up you see $1.8 million of cdbg

54:02

however only about

54:04

$240,000 of that is able to go to

54:08

nonprofit organizations so the city is

54:10

not able to use the bulk of that money

54:13

to go to nonprofit organizations and

54:16

other things that it's used for are uh

54:19

the demolition with the codes office

54:21

also the section 208 Debt Service loan

54:25

um so there are number of things that

54:27

cdbg covers but you see this big large

54:30

number and then um you kind of see a a

54:33

minuscule amount of it going to

54:34

nonprofits but that's why it's actually

54:36

set up by Hud and only a certain

54:38

percentage of what your annual allotment

54:41

is allowed to go to

54:43

organizations yeah thank you I think

54:45

again that's very important for us to

54:47

know and then for sure a lot of people

54:49

also don't realize that a lot of that

54:51

money that that they're looking for to

54:54

unhoused can come from the county so

54:56

have to see your Commissioners they get

54:58

about $30 million a year uh to spend

55:01

some of that money so um it's a

55:03

collective effort and I'm glad to hear

55:05

everybody's at the table so thank

55:07

you thank you councilman Jones I have

55:11

two questions director Hill okay you

55:14

mentioned that the homeless shelter

55:16

reports would be coming in how soon or

55:20

so typically we have about uh 90 days

55:25

after the close of once or overnight

55:27

shelter to report back to HUD so it'll

55:30

be 90 days from two days ago okay and

55:34

would those reports include the CB cdbg

55:38

and ESG funding and tell us exactly what

55:41

money was spent on what for the housing

55:44

no so no money from the city goes

55:47

directly to Winter overnight shelter

55:49

this is above and beyond what the city

55:51

funds for um ESG so there aren't any

55:56

funding streams for winter overnight

55:58

shelter this literally is all of the

56:01

service providers coming to the table to

56:03

meet the need so that folks don't freeze

56:07

over the coldest months of the winter

56:10

okay and we certainly appreciate them

56:12

and then with the uh coordination with

56:14

the county referencing the home AR

56:18

application are you

56:20

aware of the tiny homes forecast in

56:24

other areas throughout the region um so

56:30

there are actually several types of uh

56:33

tiny home Villages not just all

56:36

throughout the region but there are some

56:38

that are also being proposed for the

56:41

city um but Veterans of PA is a very

56:46

specific one because it'll be about 20

56:48

or 25 homes specific for veterans so

56:51

that organization has a a tighter more

56:55

stringent um eligibility if you will of

56:57

who will be able to access those now the

57:00

other ones um the other tiny home

57:05

Villages that are proposed and and

57:07

trying to find the funding are for

57:10

unsheltered without the the veteran

57:12

designation right okay thank you sure I

57:16

don't have any other questions does

57:18

anyone else have any more questions

57:20

council members thank you very much for

57:23

your report have a great evening you too

57:25

thank you

57:29

you thank you uh as I mentioned prior to

57:33

the start of the meeting um the

57:35

community and economic development

57:37

committee there is no quarterly report

57:40

for the Bureau of planning that will be

57:42

receed this evening the final committee

57:45

business we will hear will come from the

57:47

Public Safety Committee I will defer to

57:49

our Public Safety Committee chair chair

57:52

Jones yes thank you president Bowers I

57:55

see commissioner and deputy chief

57:58

young come on up come on

58:04

down this is regarding uh resolution

58:08

20 of

58:11

2024 you want to read

58:13

it

58:15

certainly resolution 20 of

58:18

2024 a resolution ratifying the 2023

58:22

Federal Justice assistance grant

58:24

application and and authorizing the city

58:27

of Harrisburg to enter into a

58:29

subrecipient agreement for Dolphin

58:31

County to administer

58:34

$61,500 in awarded Grant

58:38

funds thank you Mr

58:40

Parker commissioner deputy chief

58:46

young good evening I'm deputy chief

58:49

young uh so this grant is a yearly grant

58:52

that we enter into with the county uh

58:54

it's basically what I was told was a

58:56

past through Grant so it's awarded to

58:58

the county and then we receive it from

59:00

them um this grant is applied is broken

59:04

down into a couple couple different

59:06

sections which cover um and this is

59:09

yearly it covers this uh would be uh

59:12

victim witness um so we pay half their

59:14

salary which is

59:16

2603 um the total of that would have

59:18

been 52 uh 603 annual so again we cover

59:22

half of that uh we cover the total

59:24

benefits uh for that which would be 44

59:28

or I'm sorry $4

59:30

4,494 all right which gives you $

59:34

30,7

59:35

96 uh the grant also covers uh our

59:39

nibras uh so as we enter into that it

59:42

tracks the uh the stats um crime stats

59:47

uh that we uh we input into our RMS or

59:49

record management system uh the money

59:52

also that's 86 8602 that goes to nbras

59:56

crie watch would be $4,800 or it's $400

59:59

a month for 12 months um for the web

1:00:03

portal

1:00:04

subscription uh the other part of this

1:00:06

would be $7,000 would go to uh planet or

1:00:10

power time and basically what that is is

1:00:12

a scheduling system for us with the uh

1:00:14

end of Life coming with Metro uh this

1:00:16

gives us the ability to get in there uh

1:00:19

Power time or planet has other features

1:00:21

that we'll end up using as far as um uh

1:00:24

checks uh Court management or subpoena

1:00:27

issues uh it deals with um Quarter

1:00:30

Master property tracking as well um the

1:00:33

last thing which this one was slated for

1:00:36

now this is a change from last year this

1:00:38

year it would be used for Cody Cobra um

1:00:41

what we're thinking after we tried to

1:00:43

get the police beer to use Cody Cobra so

1:00:46

basically Cobra Cody Cobra is a is a

1:00:49

platform where everybody uh so local

1:00:52

agencies around here with other RMS or

1:00:54

other reports going one system so you

1:00:57

would be able to access that through

1:00:59

Cody Cobra um which is another research

1:01:03

mechanism that would help us connect so

1:01:05

you'd be able to run whatever you were

1:01:07

investigating and then be able to come

1:01:09

up with information see if it was

1:01:10

connected to Lancaster or other places

1:01:12

uh in the area

1:01:14

um we would keep a couple of those

1:01:17

subscriptions um and mainly they would

1:01:19

be in our criminal investigation

1:01:21

division um the County right now covered

1:01:24

that bill uh last year I think uh E's

1:01:28

office decided it was too expensive to

1:01:30

cover it um so we were trying to they

1:01:33

they push that out to whoever was

1:01:35

willing to participate on that um so we

1:01:38

decided that last a couple months ago we

1:01:40

decided that using this money coming

1:01:43

from the county uh to uh to Support Cody

1:01:46

Cobra um was beneficial again after

1:01:50

after doing some checking and asking

1:01:52

some questions and putting it out there

1:01:54

our CID or criminal investigation

1:01:56

division uh seems to be the only section

1:01:59

within the bureau uh that that would use

1:02:02

uh Cody

1:02:03

cob

1:02:05

um so that's what it would cover uh and

1:02:09

that's that's what it is again it's it's

1:02:10

a yearly grant that we get it was the

1:02:12

same thing I believe last year instead

1:02:14

of getting Cody Cobra which the county

1:02:16

paid for that we were able to apply that

1:02:18

money towards a vehicle uh so it helped

1:02:21

us with that as

1:02:22

well so I'm open to questions yeah thank

1:02:26

you um just something simple for me um I

1:02:29

I did take time to uh look at the

1:02:32

exhibit um very detailed um it's a lot

1:02:36

of numbers in here a lot of percentages

1:02:38

um so I think this grant is uh worthy uh

1:02:41

for you guys to uh continue to get um so

1:02:45

one of the things is U like with the

1:02:46

crime watch uh website um for those that

1:02:51

don't have accessibility as you know

1:02:53

some people have the Broadband issues

1:02:56

right um how can some of this

1:02:58

information other than the website how

1:03:00

will it typically get to those residents

1:03:03

and those victims may I say so a lot of

1:03:07

it is posted so we'll post a lot of it

1:03:09

it's it's another Avenue for us to uh to

1:03:12

send information out um how it gets

1:03:15

there I can find out but for the most

1:03:19

part it would be like um well it's just

1:03:22

a platform that that we we would uh we

1:03:24

use it heavily it's heavily followed um

1:03:28

so that's we we just push the

1:03:29

information out whether that's wanted

1:03:31

people or whether that's information

1:03:32

that we're getting to the public or any

1:03:34

information that we would uh we would

1:03:36

use I mean um Matt is another good

1:03:40

source with that between crime watch and

1:03:42

then what the city has is how that

1:03:44

information gets pushed out I think this

1:03:46

also ties into what what what the court

1:03:48

system does as well cuz I think a lot of

1:03:50

people if you are a victim um you you

1:03:53

will get this information uh via

1:03:56

uh the male system or as you stated too

1:03:59

the officers that are may be dealing

1:04:00

with the individual that may be going

1:04:03

through this crisis um my other question

1:04:06

is and this may not be for you to answer

1:04:09

um but I'm looking on here and I see

1:04:10

that Katherine Kilgore from cjab uh was

1:04:14

the grant where she's the person that

1:04:15

administer but she's not here anymore

1:04:18

correct I don't know how you replace

1:04:20

this woman but is she replaced he is not

1:04:23

replaced at this point so and and don't

1:04:26

know how you replace her and that's a

1:04:28

problem that the County's working

1:04:30

through yeah um so that was part of this

1:04:32

in previous years she did a lot of the

1:04:34

work on this um and we just sort of kind

1:04:37

of you know after after pass through

1:04:39

Council um she was mainly we got lucky

1:04:43

right so um the the issue is still being

1:04:47

worked out through the county and then I

1:04:49

mean I I think that's not just one

1:04:52

person that's a a multiple uh say almost

1:04:56

a small committee right that would so

1:04:59

this does happen I'm only asking that

1:05:00

because this happens annually right

1:05:02

correct so hopefully they can get

1:05:05

somebody to U because as you can see

1:05:07

reading this exhibit I know the the the

1:05:09

community can't see it but it is very

1:05:11

detailed um yeah but that's all I have

1:05:15

no further questions I'll open it up to

1:05:17

uh my colleagues and I'll start to my

1:05:20

far right and go to the councilwoman

1:05:22

Daniels I have no questions thank you

1:05:26

councilwoman Davis I don't have any

1:05:28

questions thank you for your report vice

1:05:31

president green thank you very much for

1:05:33

being here tonight I don't have any

1:05:35

questions for you president bers good

1:05:38

evening I don't have any questions thank

1:05:40

you councilwoman Ross thank you thank

1:05:43

you for being here tonight um I guess

1:05:45

I'll break the the side I'll be the

1:05:49

breaker of it sorry I but I just had one

1:05:51

quick question to make sure I'm matching

1:05:53

it up right online because it is very

1:05:55

mey it's also called Jag is that the

1:05:58

okay so it's a federal J Jag Grant so

1:06:01

it's if we're in I'm sorry with the

1:06:03

acronym I said to myself you and I these

1:06:06

acronyms okay because in the paperwork

1:06:09

they say Jag a lot and I'm like I mean I

1:06:11

know there's a TV show that used to be

1:06:13

called Jag but I don't think this is it

1:06:15

so then I'm just making sure Justice

1:06:17

assistance grant that's where okay yeah

1:06:20

and and you'll have to forgive me I'm

1:06:22

probably going to continue to do that as

1:06:23

I come up here that's what you do to me

1:06:25

it's all right and I'm going to always

1:06:26

say that you it's a it's a Havoc so uh

1:06:30

yeah and you got to understand this

1:06:31

grant here is also shared with uhp with

1:06:35

teror but we get the majority of it yeah

1:06:37

that was messing me up too as I'm seeing

1:06:38

all these numbers I'm like that's not

1:06:39

what our number is that we don't get 84

1:06:41

you know but then I'm looking oh this is

1:06:43

other municipalities correct and the

1:06:46

main thing we'll get back to uh

1:06:47

councilman uh Jones the main thing is we

1:06:50

have our own in-house victim witness

1:06:52

person okay so if and again I had the

1:06:54

opportunity to look at the website um we

1:06:57

are listed on there as a resource where

1:06:59

people can come to the Harrisburg Bureau

1:07:01

of police uh to speak with the dedicated

1:07:05

um uh in-house victim witness person

1:07:08

okay that was my only question yeah and

1:07:10

they're very helpful I mean it the

1:07:12

information gets out again through when

1:07:15

we when we show up to take reports and

1:07:17

stuff like that that information gets

1:07:18

out uh through the officers all right

1:07:21

thank you for further explaining that

1:07:22

thank you that's it for me that's it

1:07:25

yeah they're very uh I want to say I

1:07:28

could say thorough um you know somebody

1:07:31

breaks into your car you'll get a letter

1:07:33

I'm like I don't need this what you mean

1:07:35

a victim but

1:07:38

it's there's there's a lot more

1:07:40

resources on there so which is

1:07:42

absolutely Council man Rodriguez you

1:07:45

have any

1:07:46

questions thank you chair Jones thank

1:07:49

thank you Deputy young our commissioner

1:07:52

Carter as always um no question just

1:07:55

more of a statement I think the Cobra

1:07:58

Cody is amazing um just to be able to

1:08:01

transfer that real time data and not

1:08:04

only just transfer it with other

1:08:06

intergovernmental agencies but it will

1:08:08

translate the language of the data as

1:08:10

well which I think is huge for a

1:08:13

multicultural um city like Harrisburg is

1:08:15

so kudos to you gentlemen and keep up

1:08:18

the great work um nothing further chair

1:08:20

Jones Thank you thank you all right

1:08:23

gentlemen thank you appreciate you have

1:08:25

a good evening all

1:08:30

right I apologize I Rec I Rec that

1:08:35

this that this moves forward uh to our

1:08:38

next legislative session thank you thank

1:08:42

you we will now move forward with our

1:08:46

agenda with public comment uh just a few

1:08:49

housekeeping notes before we begin

1:08:51

please state your name and your address

1:08:53

for the meeting record if you don't

1:08:55

don't feel comfortable sharing your

1:08:56

address please share the vicinity in

1:08:58

which you live within the city Mr Parker

1:09:01

will serve as our timekeeper you will

1:09:04

have four minutes to share your comments

1:09:07

I will begin to my right is there anyone

1:09:10

that would like to offer public

1:09:23

comment good evening

1:09:26

sorry can you please there you go that

1:09:29

better yes thank you so Brian keyling

1:09:34

Midtown uh just two of us tonight when

1:09:37

I'm done speaking we are going to leave

1:09:39

to join the rest of the Harrisburg

1:09:41

Palestine Coalition at a different

1:09:43

meeting we're currently having we have

1:09:45

community members who are interested in

1:09:46

organizing and affecting real change

1:09:49

here in Harrisburg but first we did want

1:09:51

to stop by just so we don't give the

1:09:53

false impression that we've forgotten

1:09:54

about our resolution or moved on from it

1:09:58

the way we see it there are really only

1:10:00

three possible reasons why things would

1:10:02

have ground to a halt with the

1:10:04

resolution the first is that an outside

1:10:07

influence most likely the mayor's office

1:10:09

or someone in coordination with the

1:10:11

mayor's office has put their thumb on

1:10:12

the scale behind the scenes to stop the

1:10:15

resolution obviously that would be

1:10:16

inappropriate and I'm sure I speak for

1:10:18

all of us when I say that we hope that's

1:10:20

not how our government works the second

1:10:23

reason is that solicit Grover has

1:10:26

advised you to shove it because he feels

1:10:28

it's either inappropriate or legally

1:10:30

dubious for this body to act on the

1:10:32

resolution if that's the case I

1:10:35

respectfully suggest that this is bad

1:10:37

legal advice as demonstrated by the fact

1:10:39

that over 100 other solicitors in over

1:10:42

100 other cities and municipalities

1:10:44

didn't stop those resolutions from going

1:10:46

forward as we all know none of those 100

1:10:48

plus resolutions and Counting resulted

1:10:51

in any legal

1:10:52

repercussions the third reason we see

1:10:55

that this resolution would be stopped is

1:10:57

that this council is afraid of sparking

1:10:59

a little controversy I personally hope

1:11:02

that's not the reason I think it would

1:11:04

be the saddest we all know it's the

1:11:06

right thing to do and we all know it's

1:11:08

popular but I've said that a thousand

1:11:10

times at this point so there's really no

1:11:12

need to get into it again other than to

1:11:13

say that none of you struck me as people

1:11:15

who are afraid of doing what's obviously

1:11:18

right so hopefully that isn't the

1:11:20

reason whichever one is the reason or if

1:11:23

it's some combination of the three the

1:11:24

fact that resolution seems to be dying

1:11:27

behind closed doors is a problem so I'll

1:11:30

close with some respectful unsolicited

1:11:32

advice we get the sense that this

1:11:34

council is not used to a large number of

1:11:37

people showing up week after week for

1:11:40

the same issue and insisting on it being

1:11:43

brought forward we know that usually

1:11:45

public comments are one-offs from

1:11:46

individuals and it's good and

1:11:48

appropriate that those people come here

1:11:50

but we think you all are not accustomed

1:11:52

to something bigger like you've seen in

1:11:54

the past few weeks with us and I get

1:11:57

that that might feel overwhelming but I

1:11:58

would suggest that you consider the

1:12:00

possibility that what's happening with

1:12:01

our resolution is the reason other

1:12:03

groups don't come to council for serious

1:12:05

issues that Council should hear about

1:12:08

there's no faith in the system there's

1:12:10

no faith that they'll be listened to let

1:12:12

alone that action will be taken and

1:12:14

unfortunately what's happening with our

1:12:16

resolution is going to confirm for them

1:12:18

that it's just not worth it so yes you

1:12:21

should pass our resolution because it's

1:12:23

the right thing to do because it is the

1:12:25

result of collaboration between a wide

1:12:27

variety of communities including the

1:12:29

Jewish and Muslim communities and

1:12:31

because it directly impacts Harrisburg

1:12:33

but you should also do it to show City

1:12:35

residents that Council isn't a waste of

1:12:37

time and that all these issues get the

1:12:39

public attention and acknowledgement

1:12:41

from Council that they

1:12:43

deserve so that's what I've got uh as

1:12:46

always if I'm wrong and need to be

1:12:48

corrected or if you want to get in touch

1:12:50

to discuss how to move it forward or

1:12:51

address any misconceptions about what

1:12:54

the resolution actually says you know

1:12:56

how to reach us and we certainly hope

1:12:58

that you do thank you you are wrong and

1:13:00

you need to be

1:13:01

corrected by all means if they want to

1:13:03

set up a meeting I'm not going to do

1:13:05

happy to but you are wrong and you need

1:13:07

to be corrected what you are saying is

1:13:09

inaccurate in New York the house

1:13:12

committee has drug in the people who

1:13:13

voted on their resolution down to house

1:13:15

subpoenas in DC hold the legal community

1:13:18

in you know up advisories that's the

1:13:21

beginning it's not the end so I'm saying

1:13:24

they say there's no legal repercussions

1:13:26

is is is an advocate's point of view and

1:13:28

I respect that you are an advocate but

1:13:30

there are issues that you're stating as

1:13:32

an advocate as opposed to as fact and

1:13:34

they are merely pieces of fact they are

1:13:36

not close to the whole story and so and

1:13:39

I I I respect the group that you're with

1:13:41

I respect the passion of your thing but

1:13:43

you advocate in a way that selects the

1:13:46

facts that you put forth to make your

1:13:48

point to try to get to the point you

1:13:50

want but the same thing has true with

1:13:52

the document you presented and you are

1:13:54

not the only point of view the city

1:13:56

hears from menty point of view but you

1:13:59

you present it each week as if these are

1:14:01

established facts and I'm just telling

1:14:04

you someone needs to just tell you the

1:14:06

reality is what you're saying in part is

1:14:08

inaccurate I need to say it publicly and

1:14:11

that's what I do but that's part of

1:14:12

council's job and that's part of your

1:14:14

job and you need to advise us and we

1:14:16

these are conversations that are you

1:14:19

failed to advise us on our ethical

1:14:21

obligations and now you're arguing with

1:14:23

the constituent about whether their

1:14:25

legal advice is right or wrong he's not

1:14:27

an attorney that's your job and and I

1:14:29

given you legal advice I'm happy to

1:14:32

amend my statement 100 plus resolutions

1:14:34

and one legal repercussion that hasn't

1:14:37

actually been completed by the sounds of

1:14:39

it like I said we're really happy to

1:14:41

meet with any of you about this to keep

1:14:43

it going forward um that's our view so

1:14:46

thank you very

1:14:48

much to meet with Grover too oh we're

1:14:50

happy to meet with Grover he told us he

1:14:52

wouldn't meet with us which is fine um

1:14:54

but you know where we stand so thank you

1:14:57

very much thank you is there anyone else

1:14:59

that would like to offer public

1:15:07

comment good

1:15:10

evening my name is Emanuel B Thomas I

1:15:13

live on the um Allison Hill district

1:15:16

area uh 16th from

1:15:19

Chestnut uh I'd like to address one and

1:15:23

two issues one about the programs that

1:15:26

need to be ran in our community in

1:15:29

regards to our children it's so many uh

1:15:34

people come up here and speak about this

1:15:37

money and different things that

1:15:39

organizations need to join in and uh

1:15:43

Foster a better uh life for our children

1:15:45

and our community as a whole uh I just

1:15:48

want to be able to uh understand the

1:15:52

legality of being able to join in them

1:15:55

with this money that hasn't been

1:15:58

allocated already with um

1:16:02

nonprofits uh because there's some

1:16:03

nonprofits that's starting up for

1:16:06

homeless

1:16:08

uh unhoused individuals as well as um

1:16:13

she spoke about individuals coming home

1:16:16

from incarceration that they're on

1:16:18

probation or a ro uh some max out and

1:16:22

they don't have any probation officer or

1:16:26

parole officer or anybody to help or

1:16:29

assist them and they're

1:16:31

unhoused so that's an issue that she

1:16:33

might not know about that needs to be

1:16:36

addressed um as well as just joining in

1:16:41

with this TV station channel 20 there so

1:16:46

many individuals that need to be on

1:16:48

there because there's too much going on

1:16:50

in our community that our community

1:16:53

don't know about

1:16:55

so I definitely thank council members

1:16:59

for producing this beautiful um stage

1:17:03

for all of us to be able to

1:17:06

speak um too many of us need to be here

1:17:10

and join in so I'd like to thank you all

1:17:14

for your

1:17:15

time thank you thank

1:17:18

you is there anyone else to my right

1:17:20

that would like to offer public

1:17:23

comment

1:17:34

good evening um my name is Mark Giles um

1:17:37

I'm the executive director of

1:17:39

heart-to-heart Social Development

1:17:42

Inc um I'm not here

1:17:45

to uh be long-winded about what I what I

1:17:50

offer I'm here to offer my services to

1:17:52

the city council because I want to First

1:17:54

commend yall for the job that yall doing

1:17:57

as far as the unhoused population in the

1:18:00

city um I'm uniquely qualified because I

1:18:03

was homeless for 10 years

1:18:05

myself I now own a construction company

1:18:08

and I am looking to offer my services to

1:18:11

the city not because I'm looking for

1:18:13

money I'm all right in that department

1:18:15

I'm looking to be able to help you guys

1:18:19

come up with a solution to uh provide

1:18:21

the housing that these people need you

1:18:24

know I know that when uh you talk about

1:18:27

uh low-income housing when these

1:18:30

properties are developed most most of

1:18:32

the property goes to the median income

1:18:35

and not to low income so the at the rate

1:18:39

that they're being produced is not

1:18:42

adequate enough for the people that's

1:18:43

still out there um I have a um a

1:18:46

solution for that for the shortterm and

1:18:49

the long term and I would like to offer

1:18:51

that to y'all

1:18:53

um I I don't know how to get in touch

1:18:56

with y'all uh because I'm I'm fairly new

1:18:58

to the city of Harrisburg but I'm not

1:19:00

new to this situation or this

1:19:02

circumstance um and I believe that it's

1:19:05

my duty as a man of God to stand up and

1:19:08

do what I can to help y'all get this

1:19:10

problem

1:19:11

solved thank you thank you if you

1:19:13

wouldn't mind just for the meeting

1:19:15

record either sharing your address or

1:19:17

the vicinity in which you live with I

1:19:19

live at 64 nor 12 Street I don't know

1:19:21

the part is the city iine thank you

1:19:24

you're good if you wouldn't mind waiting

1:19:26

uh just a few minutes after the meeting

1:19:28

to speak to our building and housing

1:19:30

committee chair u m Miss uh councilwoman

1:19:35

Davis sure sure okay thank you is there

1:19:39

anyone else to my right that would like

1:19:41

to offer public

1:19:43

comment seeing and hearing no one anyone

1:19:46

in the middle

1:19:53

section

1:19:57

good evening Council good

1:19:59

evening uh I'm Ronda Mays uh I live in

1:20:03

North Allison

1:20:05

Hill so first I wanted to give my

1:20:09

heartfelt gratitude to Council in

1:20:13

particular president Bowers for honoring

1:20:16

my mother uh uponor uh passing with the

1:20:21

proclamation from City Council I'm sure

1:20:25

she would have said whatat did I do to

1:20:27

deserve this because she was very humble

1:20:30

person but um we also recognize that her

1:20:36

husband had a very dangerous job as um

1:20:41

all police officer spouses do and he

1:20:44

wouldn't have been able to rise through

1:20:46

the ranks as the first um

1:20:49

African-American Captain without um My

1:20:53

Mother by a side keep keeping the home

1:20:56

stable and peaceful so they could leave

1:20:58

the stress in the street so um the

1:21:02

Proclamation was a

1:21:04

surprise uh I didn't expect it but it

1:21:07

was wonderful she would have been so

1:21:10

proud and so I just want to take this

1:21:13

time to thank you very much for that now

1:21:17

um briefly I want to speak as the

1:21:19

Director of the Fair Housing Council of

1:21:22

the Capitol region I address 2100 North

1:21:25

6th

1:21:27

Street uh the

1:21:29

council has

1:21:32

recently um been getting an

1:21:34

extraordinary number of calls about a

1:21:38

specific

1:21:40

property um named U River

1:21:43

trails that was previously known as lyen

1:21:48

Terrace uh I'm sure council is very much

1:21:51

aware of the issues in that particular

1:21:54

building

1:21:55

um but um I just wanted to speak about

1:21:59

it

1:22:00

briefly um and

1:22:03

um just ask Council to keep a specific

1:22:08

eye on that I don't know at this point

1:22:12

what the city would be able to do to

1:22:15

relieve some of the suffering of the

1:22:18

residents in that building um but I'm

1:22:22

sure if we all work together

1:22:25

and

1:22:26

communicate that we'll be able to find

1:22:30

um some sort of uh solution even if it's

1:22:32

temporary while the building is being

1:22:35

rehabilitated um at this time the

1:22:38

council really uh the Fair Housing

1:22:40

Council really has no answers to give to

1:22:42

the residents that call us multiple

1:22:45

times on a weekly basis um but I did

1:22:50

speak with one of the residents today

1:22:52

and suggest that

1:22:54

um similar that to what we did with uh

1:22:58

the meeting uh the property adjacent to

1:23:01

us uh Governor Square is to have a

1:23:06

meeting at the

1:23:08

council and to invite the public

1:23:11

officials and property management and um

1:23:17

codes and whomever to listen to the

1:23:22

residents and to

1:23:25

to basically um give them any

1:23:29

information that you may have or

1:23:32

possibly some

1:23:33

suggestions these are folks that are

1:23:37

lowincome they don't have big voices

1:23:41

within the

1:23:42

community but they are residents and

1:23:45

they deserve to live in dignity which

1:23:48

right now they are not you have elderly

1:23:50

people that cannot receive their

1:23:52

medication or food they mobile they

1:23:55

cannot get downstairs to get to doctor's

1:23:58

appointments they can't you know have

1:24:01

food delivered to them on the upper

1:24:04

floors um they're in wheelchairs and the

1:24:07

elevators

1:24:08

break constantly there's infestation

1:24:13

issues um so it's it's a a severe

1:24:17

problem right now so I would like to

1:24:20

reach out to city council within the

1:24:22

next week and invite to a meeting

1:24:25

hopefully we'll I'll be able to get

1:24:27

everyone together and we can decide upon

1:24:29

a date and um we can have that

1:24:34

discussion with the residents at the

1:24:36

office thank you for your time thank

1:24:42

you is there anyone else in the middle

1:24:45

section that would like to offer public

1:24:51

comment good evening um leis buts

1:24:55

Allison Hill um thank everybody I'm

1:24:58

thankful for this opportunity um but I

1:25:02

didn't want the communications director

1:25:04

to leave CU he's vital for all this

1:25:07

stuff to to be

1:25:09

translated all these committee issues

1:25:12

all the feelings of um our residents

1:25:16

communication is vital and that's what

1:25:20

everybody is saying so let's make it

1:25:24

work work I know they may not be may be

1:25:26

short staffed but we have to have

1:25:28

Alternatives we have scitech we have

1:25:31

some beautiful brilliant kids there's

1:25:34

institutions in the city of Harrisburg

1:25:37

that can work things out and make our

1:25:40

systems better it's important it's

1:25:43

imperative that we have skits all the

1:25:47

information that is is relayed that

1:25:49

everybody's yearning for has to be on

1:25:52

that channel 20 you know everything has

1:25:55

to be on there we can do Skits the

1:25:58

officers can do skits on how to reduce

1:26:01

situations that um reduce violence

1:26:05

situations we have to teach our

1:26:07

community how to resolve situations for

1:26:11

themselves before it go so far and that

1:26:14

the the officers are involved before get

1:26:18

gets that far our Citizens need to learn

1:26:21

how to deal with

1:26:23

situations all all that CBG money

1:26:26

everything has to be translated on

1:26:28

channel 20 whether it's um everybody's

1:26:31

acting it out but it has to be visible

1:26:36

and it has to be able to be digest you

1:26:39

know everybody's not up here but we have

1:26:42

to have a medium education level so

1:26:45

people can digest it the children the

1:26:48

things that they do as that channel 20

1:26:50

should be constantly moving there should

1:26:52

be no dead time

1:26:55

and that's what I'm going to try to help

1:26:57

out with because there Solutions it's

1:27:00

right in our right right around the

1:27:02

corner we just have to do it it's okay

1:27:06

let's just do it now you high tech are

1:27:10

they are brilliant them kids don't they

1:27:11

win Awards all year

1:27:13

long don't they constantly win stuff

1:27:16

well we have to empower them to to solve

1:27:20

it we don't want to have somebody from

1:27:23

Idaho do or whatever some you know but

1:27:27

these kids we got to encourage them to

1:27:29

look within our structure cuz they'll be

1:27:31

taking our

1:27:33

place so we have to make that bridge um

1:27:36

thanks thanks guys we'll talk later but

1:27:39

we have to build Bridges that's what

1:27:40

it's all about thank you so much thank

1:27:45

you I'm sorry go ahead Mr buts um to

1:27:49

your point um that's probably why I

1:27:51

brought some of that up but uh to your

1:27:53

point Channel 20 belongs to the people

1:27:56

you are the people so you can definitely

1:27:58

get in contact with Mr maelle and um try

1:28:01

to do some things that you see that we

1:28:08

need absolutely I agree with you thank

1:28:11

you president MERS thank you is there

1:28:14

anyone else in the middle section that

1:28:15

would like to offer public comment okay

1:28:18

seeing and hearing no one anyone to my

1:28:23

left okay seeing and hearing no one the

1:28:27

time is 6:59 p.m. I will entertain a

1:28:30

motion to

1:28:33

adjourn motion to adjourn is there a

1:28:38

second I say I know thank you we stand a

1:28:43

Jour you want to stay

1:28:49

here

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