I Built A $90K/Month SaaS in 19 Months
We launched it about 19 months ago. Gone
from zero to over a million in ARR over
those 19 months.
>> This is Zach. He built a million-dollar
SAS in just over a year. But here's the
crazy part. This is not your typical SAS
model because he does something
completely different. And it's the
reason he's adding $10,000 in MR every
single month. I think the reason it's
easy and like why I think this kind of
concept of selling to agencies is like a
really good angle is agencies are really
easy to find. I asked Zach to come on to
the channel to reveal everything. And in
this episode, we'll dive into the 1
million ARR SAS that he built, how he
found this idea, and why almost nobody
else is doing it, and how you can
replicate this new SAS model right now
in 2026. All right, let's dive in. I'm
Pat Walls and this is Starter Story.
Zach, welcome to the channel. Tell me
about who you are, what you built, and
what's your story.
>> Yeah, thanks for having me. My name is
Zach and my partner Brendan and I built
a analytics platform called Hero
Analytics. We launched it about 19
months ago in October 2024. So, we've
gone from zero to over a million in ARR.
And today, I'm really excited to talk
specifically about building SAS for
agencies instead of brands.
>> This is crazy. first of all and I think
you have a unique kind of take on why
this happened and why it grew so fast
and we're going to talk about that but
before we do let's talk about what you
built. Can you explain what your SAS
does in a few sentences?
>> So Hero is a analytics and reporting
platform specifically focused on
automation for agencies and really like
a specific niche of agencies which are
email and SMS marketing agencies. These
are the agencies running platforms like
Claio on behalf of their clients sending
weekly emails. an agency can go into
kind of every aspect of what they're
running on behalf of their clients and
pull a ton of data and then we have like
agency specific features. So an agency
can see all of their clients in one
place. They can see how their team is
pacing versus their goals. And this is
Stripe for the last 4 weeks. We're at
about 96.2K
in MR. We're currently pacing at adding
close to 10K in MR every month. And then
you can see churn is like extremely low
as well. That is the best churn rate
I've ever seen from anyone who's come on
to Starter Story. So, this is the real
deal. Can you explain your business
model at a high level? Like, how much
does it cost? And is it on subscription?
How does it work?
>> It's a subscription. We do a 30-day free
trial for every agency that comes on.
And so, we set the monthly fee kind of
based on their client count. So, let's
say you're an agency with 10 clients,
you kind of pay 500, 20 clients, 600,
etc., etc. And then larger agencies,
it's a little bit more bespoke cuz some
of them have 200 clients and they might
pay a couple thousand a month.
>> Okay, cool. Well, we're going to be
talking all about this sort of unique
pricing model that you have and
approach, which is to sell to agencies.
But before we do, how do you get to the
place where you've built a SAS that got
to 90K MR in just over a year? How do
you get here?
>> I'll say the first business that
actually worked out was an email
marketing agency. So, we ran that for
about 6 years. We had around 30 clients
who were kind of like our ICP for this
app. And Brendan was so fed up with a
lot of kind of the friction points that
all of these agencies experience that
he's like, I'm just going to figure out
how to build something. And so it kind
of just worked out where right as we
were really getting momentum with Hero,
we were able to step away from that
agency full-time to focus on this. I
love everything that Zach is breaking
down right now. But I think one of the
real secrets behind his success is this
kind of overlooked category that he's
building in. There are so many business
ideas like this that are hiding in plain
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hope you enjoy. Let's get back to the
episode. So, you guys kind of built this
without deep technical experience, even
though this is a pretty technical data
heavy product. What were some of the
early tools that you used to allow you
to build a SAS product and then what are
you using nowadays?
>> The funny thing is we like had this
oddly specific old background in ETL.
The funny thing is we had no idea about
AWS as it relates to like app usage. So
like our early day bills on on like AWS
and like the first time we set up
Snowflake were like crazy high, but we
knew how to set up the tables and then
retool which is essentially like an
internal app building tool and then we
were just connecting it to kind of like
our own database structure that we had
set up and then over the last 6 to 8
months we've actually completely kind of
pivoted. It's all cloud code. So the
main reason why I wanted to bring you on
to the channel is to talk about this
sort of unique business model that you
have. So can you give me an overview of
what this is and how it works. So there
are a lot of analytics applications in
the kind of like Shopify e-commerce
space, but all of them go to individual
brands, right? So every time I need to
make a sale, I would have to go to brand
A, brand B, brand C to sell one
subscription to each of them to get to
three subscriptions. with agencies. Each
of the agencies have 10, 20, 30 brands
as customers. And so in effect, I'm
getting 30 brands onto the platform by
going through one agency. And then the
agencies have 10 users or 20 users. So
I'm selling seats to each of the users.
They can give seats to their customers.
So imagine the agency has 10
strategists. They're paying $10 a month
for each of those seats. And then they
have 20 customers. And each customer
wants a seat. that's another $200 a
month in seats. And so you're just
getting a lot of access to users through
one customer. And I think the reason
it's easy and like why I think this
concept of selling to agencies is like a
really good angle is agencies are really
easy to find. You can go to the Shopify
agency partner page directory, the
Clavio partner page directory, and they
basically give you a force rank list of
agencies by like size and influence. And
because the agencies are all leveraging
the same platform, you can kind of
safely assume they have the same
problem. 99% of the features we launch
is relevant to every single user every
time. Okay, I just think this is super
super smart. Instead of having to go
again to the end consumer and try to
sell a $10 per month subscription,
you're going to the agency that serves
hundreds of those. And it just makes so
much more sense. And it reminds me of
two softwares that I paid for as a
business, which is Gusto and QuickBooks.
I didn't actually just go buy these on
the website. My bookkeeper recommended
them to me and actually sold them to me.
And I didn't even have a choice in the
matter. I just had to use it. I imagine
that the sales teams of those companies
are doing something similar to you as
they're going to the bookkeepers who
manage hundreds of businesses. It's kind
of a similar idea, right? Agency model.
I have a question on this though. Are
you worried at all that Claio, which is
this app that you wrap around, or the
agencies themselves, say, "Hey, I don't
want to pay $500, $1,000 a month for
something that I could just build on my
own." What do you think about the future
of this business?
>> Yeah, that's a great question. Us having
a $1 million ARR business unit is
amazing because we're a couple people. A
publicly traded company having a 1 AR
business unit like isn't really going to
move the needle for them. So, I just
think their sites are elsewhere. The
other piece is we don't just connect to
Claio. And so if you're an agency with
30 clients, you might have 20 clients
using Claio, but you might have another
10 using Postcript or Attentive or
Omnisend. And so even if Claio were to
build a version, it's extremely unlikely
they'd show the data from those other
platforms where Claio isn't even
involved with that brand. I think that's
a great answer and a good point. Let's
talk about how to replicate this. What
would be your advice for anyone watching
this that wants to build a SAS and
potentially take some things from this
model and implement it?
>> We had specific experience in this
industry. So, we knew the platforms, we
knew the players, we knew what mattered.
So, I think I would kind of take a step
back in whatever industry I'm currently
working in and say like, oh, is there an
agency layer here that I could do this
with? Think of restaurants for example.
Restaurants have agencies who are
managing their Door Dash and Uber Eats
ads and they have to report to the
client on how that's performing. So now
that you picked your industry, you kind
of have a sense of what the key
platforms are. Like most of those
platforms are going to have a page on
their site that is like agency directory
or partner directory. Those directories
kind of give you that access right off
the bat. And I think the key with
agencies is they're all experiencing the
same problem. Every agency owner is
trying to take on more clients without
hiring more people. And the second most
impactful thing is how much time can you
save the agency? And so in selling a
product to agencies, you can just hit on
those key points. And that's really how
you get an agency owner to be like,
"Okay, yeah, I'll take you seriously."
Like, you understand what my key
problems are. Let's see what this thing
actually does.
>> All right. Well, thanks for sharing
that. I think it's just super cool model
that you've come up with. I think people
are going to love it. Last question that
we ask all founders who come on to the
channel. What would be your advice to a
younger Zach or for anyone watching
this, maybe they're an agency operator
or just anyone who wants to build a SAS
that could make a million dollars a
year. What would be your advice?
>> The path to finding like the business
that really works is never linear. We've
talked about, oh, Hero got to a million
in ARR in a year and a half, whatever.
But really, like it took us like maybe
10 years to build hero, right? like we
worked at this data visualization
startup. Amazon bought that startup. We
worked at Amazon. We left Amazon. We
started a failed newsletter business.
But through the newsletter business, we
learned email marketing. And then
through email marketing, we built the
agency. And then only then after running
the agency for 5 6 years did we build
hero. And so I wouldn't discount any of
these experiences. every experience you
have along the way. You never know which
one might be super relevant to the
business that finally takes off a decade
later.
>> That's a great advice. Thanks for coming
on, Zach, and sharing million ARR in
just over a year. It's awesome. Thanks
for coming on and sharing everything.
>> Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate
it.
>> All right, producer of Starter Story.
What do you think of this one?
>> I think he mentioned at some point in
the interview, every industry has like
an agency layer. It's interesting to
think about how there's like sort of
this business model out there for like
all all types of industries that you can
maybe go create something like this for.
So that's my first like initial thought.
I have more things to say, but I'm just
kind of impressed with this like the
business model. I mean, I know what an
agency is, so it's not like a hidden
market or anything like that, but
there's sort of this like really big
market, I guess, of agencies that I'm
maybe not like as aware of.
>> Right. Right. My favorite thing about
this is that all of this is well
documented on the internet, right? All
these billion-dollar tools have
ecosystems around them and they actually
document their agency layer on their
site. What are the best agencies to work
with because customers need this? Go to
chat GPT right now or claude and ask it,
hey, I learned about this business
model. Can you tell me where I could
apply it in other agency layers? It'll
probably give you 20 ideas of where you
could do it. And then hopefully in one
of those ideas you'll see one that is
actually interesting to you or maybe you
have some experience in it that
definitely helps. This I believe is a
gold mine hiding in plain sight and I
wouldn't just say that.
>> Yeah. Really genius and I loved how he
kind of explained it all and broke it
all down. My question for you is like
the whole like data visualization thing.
Do you think that's still like a good
idea or good sort of like problem to
solve? Is that kind of the main thing
that these agencies want? Yes, but it
goes a level deeper. The data
visualization is something that the
agencies serve to their customers. But
the reason why this business does well
is that it's a huge pain in the ass to
visualize the data and send it to your
client. And then you have to do that for
20 different clients. It's just a bunch
of manual work that they have to do. And
this software solves that problem and
allows them to do that automated. So
that's the secret there. The sauce is
not the data visualization, it's the
time saved in doing so.
>> Interesting. Yeah. No, I mean that makes
a lot of sense. And I'm just a little
bit like, wow, this is so unexpected
uh to some degree. Like I would have
never guessed this is like a a layer of
a business and it's pretty cool. And he
seemed like a cool dude. I liked him. He
was awesome.
>> Yeah. And that's the thing, you know, we
have a lot of people we bring on the
channel that build apps. It's cool. It's
consumer. You can understand like, oh,
maybe I would use this. This is one of
those examples that doesn't hit that.
But it's also one of those examples of
great market and kind of like an unsexy
business. And if you really want to make
money, if you want to build something
and grow as fast as they did, I would
focus on unsexy niches, especially if
you're doing something in B2B like this.
So, I will put in the description our
list of 30 plus unsexy niches or unsexy
markets that you can build a business
in. You can get it 100% for free. I'll
put it in the description right there.
Hope you guys enjoyed this one. We'll
see you in the next one. Peace.
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