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I Built A $90K/Month SaaS in 19 Months

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We launched it about 19 months ago. Gone

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from zero to over a million in ARR over

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those 19 months.

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>> This is Zach. He built a million-dollar

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SAS in just over a year. But here's the

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crazy part. This is not your typical SAS

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model because he does something

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completely different. And it's the

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reason he's adding $10,000 in MR every

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single month. I think the reason it's

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easy and like why I think this kind of

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concept of selling to agencies is like a

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really good angle is agencies are really

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easy to find. I asked Zach to come on to

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the channel to reveal everything. And in

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this episode, we'll dive into the 1

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million ARR SAS that he built, how he

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found this idea, and why almost nobody

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else is doing it, and how you can

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replicate this new SAS model right now

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in 2026. All right, let's dive in. I'm

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Pat Walls and this is Starter Story.

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Zach, welcome to the channel. Tell me

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about who you are, what you built, and

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what's your story.

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>> Yeah, thanks for having me. My name is

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Zach and my partner Brendan and I built

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a analytics platform called Hero

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Analytics. We launched it about 19

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months ago in October 2024. So, we've

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gone from zero to over a million in ARR.

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And today, I'm really excited to talk

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specifically about building SAS for

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agencies instead of brands.

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>> This is crazy. first of all and I think

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you have a unique kind of take on why

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this happened and why it grew so fast

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and we're going to talk about that but

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before we do let's talk about what you

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built. Can you explain what your SAS

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does in a few sentences?

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>> So Hero is a analytics and reporting

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platform specifically focused on

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automation for agencies and really like

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a specific niche of agencies which are

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email and SMS marketing agencies. These

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are the agencies running platforms like

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Claio on behalf of their clients sending

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weekly emails. an agency can go into

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kind of every aspect of what they're

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running on behalf of their clients and

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pull a ton of data and then we have like

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agency specific features. So an agency

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can see all of their clients in one

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place. They can see how their team is

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pacing versus their goals. And this is

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Stripe for the last 4 weeks. We're at

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about 96.2K

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in MR. We're currently pacing at adding

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close to 10K in MR every month. And then

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you can see churn is like extremely low

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as well. That is the best churn rate

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I've ever seen from anyone who's come on

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to Starter Story. So, this is the real

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deal. Can you explain your business

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model at a high level? Like, how much

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does it cost? And is it on subscription?

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How does it work?

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>> It's a subscription. We do a 30-day free

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trial for every agency that comes on.

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And so, we set the monthly fee kind of

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based on their client count. So, let's

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say you're an agency with 10 clients,

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you kind of pay 500, 20 clients, 600,

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etc., etc. And then larger agencies,

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it's a little bit more bespoke cuz some

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of them have 200 clients and they might

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pay a couple thousand a month.

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>> Okay, cool. Well, we're going to be

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talking all about this sort of unique

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pricing model that you have and

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approach, which is to sell to agencies.

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But before we do, how do you get to the

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place where you've built a SAS that got

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to 90K MR in just over a year? How do

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you get here?

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>> I'll say the first business that

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actually worked out was an email

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marketing agency. So, we ran that for

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about 6 years. We had around 30 clients

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who were kind of like our ICP for this

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app. And Brendan was so fed up with a

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lot of kind of the friction points that

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all of these agencies experience that

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he's like, I'm just going to figure out

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how to build something. And so it kind

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of just worked out where right as we

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were really getting momentum with Hero,

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we were able to step away from that

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agency full-time to focus on this. I

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love everything that Zach is breaking

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down right now. But I think one of the

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real secrets behind his success is this

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kind of overlooked category that he's

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building in. There are so many business

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ideas like this that are hiding in plain

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sight. They're just not being shared on

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places like X and Instagram. This is

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exactly why we launched this free

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unsexy niches. When you download it, you

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will find real business ideas that are

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quietly making money while everybody

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it up. So, if you've been looking for an

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database 100% for free. All right, I

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hope you enjoy. Let's get back to the

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episode. So, you guys kind of built this

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without deep technical experience, even

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though this is a pretty technical data

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heavy product. What were some of the

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early tools that you used to allow you

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to build a SAS product and then what are

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you using nowadays?

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>> The funny thing is we like had this

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oddly specific old background in ETL.

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The funny thing is we had no idea about

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AWS as it relates to like app usage. So

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like our early day bills on on like AWS

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and like the first time we set up

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Snowflake were like crazy high, but we

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knew how to set up the tables and then

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retool which is essentially like an

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internal app building tool and then we

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were just connecting it to kind of like

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our own database structure that we had

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set up and then over the last 6 to 8

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months we've actually completely kind of

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pivoted. It's all cloud code. So the

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main reason why I wanted to bring you on

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to the channel is to talk about this

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sort of unique business model that you

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have. So can you give me an overview of

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what this is and how it works. So there

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are a lot of analytics applications in

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the kind of like Shopify e-commerce

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space, but all of them go to individual

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brands, right? So every time I need to

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make a sale, I would have to go to brand

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A, brand B, brand C to sell one

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subscription to each of them to get to

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three subscriptions. with agencies. Each

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of the agencies have 10, 20, 30 brands

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as customers. And so in effect, I'm

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getting 30 brands onto the platform by

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going through one agency. And then the

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agencies have 10 users or 20 users. So

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I'm selling seats to each of the users.

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They can give seats to their customers.

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So imagine the agency has 10

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strategists. They're paying $10 a month

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for each of those seats. And then they

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have 20 customers. And each customer

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wants a seat. that's another $200 a

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month in seats. And so you're just

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getting a lot of access to users through

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one customer. And I think the reason

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it's easy and like why I think this

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concept of selling to agencies is like a

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really good angle is agencies are really

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easy to find. You can go to the Shopify

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agency partner page directory, the

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Clavio partner page directory, and they

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basically give you a force rank list of

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agencies by like size and influence. And

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because the agencies are all leveraging

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the same platform, you can kind of

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safely assume they have the same

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problem. 99% of the features we launch

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is relevant to every single user every

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time. Okay, I just think this is super

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super smart. Instead of having to go

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again to the end consumer and try to

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sell a $10 per month subscription,

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you're going to the agency that serves

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hundreds of those. And it just makes so

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much more sense. And it reminds me of

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two softwares that I paid for as a

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business, which is Gusto and QuickBooks.

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I didn't actually just go buy these on

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the website. My bookkeeper recommended

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them to me and actually sold them to me.

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And I didn't even have a choice in the

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matter. I just had to use it. I imagine

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that the sales teams of those companies

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are doing something similar to you as

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they're going to the bookkeepers who

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manage hundreds of businesses. It's kind

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of a similar idea, right? Agency model.

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I have a question on this though. Are

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you worried at all that Claio, which is

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this app that you wrap around, or the

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agencies themselves, say, "Hey, I don't

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want to pay $500, $1,000 a month for

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something that I could just build on my

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own." What do you think about the future

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of this business?

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>> Yeah, that's a great question. Us having

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a $1 million ARR business unit is

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amazing because we're a couple people. A

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publicly traded company having a 1 AR

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business unit like isn't really going to

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move the needle for them. So, I just

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think their sites are elsewhere. The

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other piece is we don't just connect to

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Claio. And so if you're an agency with

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30 clients, you might have 20 clients

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using Claio, but you might have another

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10 using Postcript or Attentive or

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Omnisend. And so even if Claio were to

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build a version, it's extremely unlikely

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they'd show the data from those other

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platforms where Claio isn't even

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involved with that brand. I think that's

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a great answer and a good point. Let's

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talk about how to replicate this. What

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would be your advice for anyone watching

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this that wants to build a SAS and

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potentially take some things from this

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model and implement it?

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>> We had specific experience in this

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industry. So, we knew the platforms, we

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knew the players, we knew what mattered.

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So, I think I would kind of take a step

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back in whatever industry I'm currently

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working in and say like, oh, is there an

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agency layer here that I could do this

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with? Think of restaurants for example.

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Restaurants have agencies who are

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managing their Door Dash and Uber Eats

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ads and they have to report to the

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client on how that's performing. So now

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that you picked your industry, you kind

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of have a sense of what the key

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platforms are. Like most of those

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platforms are going to have a page on

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their site that is like agency directory

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or partner directory. Those directories

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kind of give you that access right off

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the bat. And I think the key with

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agencies is they're all experiencing the

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same problem. Every agency owner is

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trying to take on more clients without

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hiring more people. And the second most

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impactful thing is how much time can you

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save the agency? And so in selling a

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product to agencies, you can just hit on

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those key points. And that's really how

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you get an agency owner to be like,

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"Okay, yeah, I'll take you seriously."

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Like, you understand what my key

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problems are. Let's see what this thing

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actually does.

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>> All right. Well, thanks for sharing

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that. I think it's just super cool model

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that you've come up with. I think people

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are going to love it. Last question that

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we ask all founders who come on to the

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channel. What would be your advice to a

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younger Zach or for anyone watching

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this, maybe they're an agency operator

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or just anyone who wants to build a SAS

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that could make a million dollars a

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year. What would be your advice?

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>> The path to finding like the business

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that really works is never linear. We've

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talked about, oh, Hero got to a million

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in ARR in a year and a half, whatever.

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But really, like it took us like maybe

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10 years to build hero, right? like we

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worked at this data visualization

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startup. Amazon bought that startup. We

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worked at Amazon. We left Amazon. We

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started a failed newsletter business.

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But through the newsletter business, we

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learned email marketing. And then

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through email marketing, we built the

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agency. And then only then after running

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the agency for 5 6 years did we build

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hero. And so I wouldn't discount any of

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these experiences. every experience you

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have along the way. You never know which

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one might be super relevant to the

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business that finally takes off a decade

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later.

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>> That's a great advice. Thanks for coming

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on, Zach, and sharing million ARR in

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just over a year. It's awesome. Thanks

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for coming on and sharing everything.

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>> Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate

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it.

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>> All right, producer of Starter Story.

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What do you think of this one?

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>> I think he mentioned at some point in

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the interview, every industry has like

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an agency layer. It's interesting to

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think about how there's like sort of

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this business model out there for like

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all all types of industries that you can

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maybe go create something like this for.

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So that's my first like initial thought.

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I have more things to say, but I'm just

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kind of impressed with this like the

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business model. I mean, I know what an

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agency is, so it's not like a hidden

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market or anything like that, but

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there's sort of this like really big

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market, I guess, of agencies that I'm

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maybe not like as aware of.

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>> Right. Right. My favorite thing about

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this is that all of this is well

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documented on the internet, right? All

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these billion-dollar tools have

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ecosystems around them and they actually

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document their agency layer on their

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site. What are the best agencies to work

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with because customers need this? Go to

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chat GPT right now or claude and ask it,

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hey, I learned about this business

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model. Can you tell me where I could

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apply it in other agency layers? It'll

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probably give you 20 ideas of where you

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could do it. And then hopefully in one

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of those ideas you'll see one that is

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actually interesting to you or maybe you

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have some experience in it that

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definitely helps. This I believe is a

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gold mine hiding in plain sight and I

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wouldn't just say that.

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>> Yeah. Really genius and I loved how he

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kind of explained it all and broke it

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all down. My question for you is like

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the whole like data visualization thing.

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Do you think that's still like a good

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idea or good sort of like problem to

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solve? Is that kind of the main thing

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that these agencies want? Yes, but it

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goes a level deeper. The data

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visualization is something that the

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agencies serve to their customers. But

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the reason why this business does well

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is that it's a huge pain in the ass to

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visualize the data and send it to your

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client. And then you have to do that for

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20 different clients. It's just a bunch

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of manual work that they have to do. And

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this software solves that problem and

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allows them to do that automated. So

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that's the secret there. The sauce is

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not the data visualization, it's the

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time saved in doing so.

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>> Interesting. Yeah. No, I mean that makes

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a lot of sense. And I'm just a little

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bit like, wow, this is so unexpected

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uh to some degree. Like I would have

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never guessed this is like a a layer of

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a business and it's pretty cool. And he

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seemed like a cool dude. I liked him. He

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was awesome.

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>> Yeah. And that's the thing, you know, we

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have a lot of people we bring on the

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channel that build apps. It's cool. It's

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consumer. You can understand like, oh,

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maybe I would use this. This is one of

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those examples that doesn't hit that.

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But it's also one of those examples of

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great market and kind of like an unsexy

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business. And if you really want to make

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money, if you want to build something

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and grow as fast as they did, I would

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focus on unsexy niches, especially if

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you're doing something in B2B like this.

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So, I will put in the description our

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list of 30 plus unsexy niches or unsexy

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markets that you can build a business

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in. You can get it 100% for free. I'll

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put it in the description right there.

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Hope you guys enjoyed this one. We'll

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see you in the next one. Peace.

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