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One Has To Die: The Earth or Capitalism

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okay guys I got to know who's

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responsible for climate change well

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according to Daren Woods the CEO of

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Exxon it's you because you're not voting

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with your dollars we have opportunities

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to make fuels with lower carbon in it

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but people aren't willing to spend the

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money to do that Exxon has lower carbon

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fuels ready to go but consumers are

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simply too cheap to pay for them but you

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know the real bad guys here are uh you

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guessed it activists society as a whole

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hasn't been doing enough of it and

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frankly uh society and I'd say the the

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activists the dominant voice in this

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discussion have tried to exclude the

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industry that has the most capacity and

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the highest potential for helping with

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that some of this Technologies the oil

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companies want to save us we just won't

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let them as you can imagine reactions to

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this were not great as climate Economist

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gnet Wagner put it it's like a drug lord

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blaming everyone but himself for drug

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problems but in fairness the logic used

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by Woods makes sense at least according

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to the rationality of the free market

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which liberates corporations from

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government oversight facilitates

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Innovations and enables consumer Freedom

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by this reasoning it's up to us to

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consume our way to a better world flush

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with electric cars solar panels and

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eco-friendly sandals under this Paradigm

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a corporation's sole imperative is to

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generate profits for shareholders which

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is why Woods is especially critical of

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exxon's activist investors who have

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proposed that the company aggressively

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cut back on fossil fuel production

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activists that hijack that process a

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legitimate process and frankly abuse it

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to advance an ideology that's

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inconsistent with the well-being of the

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company now it's frustrating of course

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to hear the CEO of a behemoth fossil

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fuel company imply that the slow

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response to climate change is our fault

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you know especially when we know that

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according to some estimates 57 companies

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are linked to 80% of global greenhouse

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gas emissions since 2016 but getting gas

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lit by an oil Mogul isn't just annoying

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when Woods shifts blame onto consumers

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he distracts from the real forces behind

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climate change meanwhile his framing

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suggests that mitigating its effects

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could be a hopeless Pursuit especially

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when Solutions are framed around

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consumption and profit rather than you

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know a reorganizing Society to

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prioritize Humanity over fossil fuel

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consumption it could feel a bit like to

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paraphrase the famous quote by Frederick

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Jameson it's easier to imagine the end

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of the world than the end of climate

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change under capitalism real quick quick

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note to say that there's not going to be

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time for us to convince you that climate

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change is real today you can check out

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the recent ipcc report for that uh if

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you think it's not real just watch this

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video as a fun exercise guess to

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yourself throughout it just go oh really

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to everything I say instead today we're

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going to examine why things feel so

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hopeless and consider some solutions

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offered by recent theorists including a

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philosopher who thinks that the best

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thing that you can do to save the planet

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is work less uh and spend more time

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hiking cooking maybe playing guitar with

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your friends so let's see if it might

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just be possible to imagine the end of

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capitalism without the end of the world

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as Florence in the machine note It's

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always darkest before the dawn so before

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we tell you how things are going to get

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better let's start by figuring out how

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things have gotten so bad now when we

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listen to CEOs and politicians explain

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climate change to us it can feel like

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everyone is the hot dog guy from that I

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think you should leave sketch we're all

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trying to find the guy who did this and

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give him a spanking and even wor it

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feels like the guys who drove the hot

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dog car through our window are now the

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ones trying to offer us exciting new

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solutions to fix that very window now we

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discussed this in a recent video but

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both the fossil fuel industry and

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climate change deniers have used all the

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tools of propaganda to control cultural

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and media narratives and that's how we

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end up in a situation where the media

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treats these guys like normal business

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dudes have an energy system today that

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has the the mix that it has and you

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can't change this overnight and this

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person like a radical outlier entire

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ecosystems are collapsing we are in the

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beginning of a mass extinction and all

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you can talk about is money and fairy

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tales of Eternal economic growth CEOs

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are rational agents motivated by the

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principles of market economics tunberg

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is irrational for claiming that Humanity

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should be prioritized over profit but

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even if media narratives fall in One

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Direction don't we still have some

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agency in what and who we vote for for

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Americans are more concerned than ever

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about the climate catastrophe but we

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still tend to vote on more urgent issues

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like the economy or healthare when your

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rent is soaring and your wages are

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tumbling it's hard to worry too much

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about melting glaciers in Greenland and

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as this current US presidential campaign

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cycle heats up faster than the North

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Atlantic we've barely heard any

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discussion of climate policy we've

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barely heard discussion of anything cuz

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one guy yells and the other guy mumbles

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and it's hard to really make anything

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out of it even supposedly Progressive

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politicians know all of this and act

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accordingly like when liberal hero Diane

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Feinstein scolded a bunch of child

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activists for asking her to help with

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climate change which is why it can feel

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like the only recourse we have is our

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own consumption habits but guys let me

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tell you a secret um here in Los Angeles

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I see so many hybrid cars and electric

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cars and reusable water bottles with

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cool stickers on them and eco-friendly

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tote bags and yet every summer is is the

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hottest summer ever so if the media is a

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propaganda tool and consumer choice

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aren't moving the needle and politicians

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are more or less just dropping a double

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decker on the planet before they die

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well then maybe it's time for some

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Bolder actions but when climate

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activists spray paint Stonehenge or

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interrupt the golf tournaments they're

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largely just seen as troublemakers and

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in the case of the recent golf

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tournament Spectators started chanting

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USA USA as police arrested the activist

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which I guess implies that the opposite

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of climate action is the USA now all of

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this seems like it leads to one of two

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things either we're so dejected by all

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this that we end up feeling both

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hopeless and helpless and just lie in

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bed consuming content until we die or it

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can push us towards more drastic action

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like those outlined by scholar Andreas

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mman his book how to blow up a pipeline

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if you don't really like reading books

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it actually got turned into a Hollywood

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picture that you could watch now in one

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of our recent videos we argued that

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neoliberalism is so ideologically

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ingrained into our culture that's

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basically a sort of religion and in the

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churches of neoliberalism free markets

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limited government intervention and

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individual Choice are like the father

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Son and Holy Spirit wealthy fossil fuel

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companies face little regulation and are

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often aided by government subsidies

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operating under cold hard Market logic

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they effectively offload moral

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responsibility onto consumers like how

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Exxon got government subsidies to

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develop energy efficient alternatives

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for the future while they just continue

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to pump out fossil fuels and you know

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just like all the fossil fuels in our

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soil this sh runs pretty deep there's t

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tons of overlap between the fossil fuel

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industry and our political system take

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notable American Sniper and former Vice

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President Dick Cheney he was the CEO of

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halberton which is an oil service

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company before he served our nation by

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becoming George W Bush's co-pilot and

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fossil fuel lobbyists work to influence

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policy at basically every level of the

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government at the time of filming this

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video

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35,41

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294 has been spent on oil lobbying this

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year with yearly averages normally

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Landing closer to $125 million they also

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fund studies and scientific research

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which encourage scientists to greenwash

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their destruction of the planet

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aggressively fight against some of the

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science uh yes this includes companies

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like BP forming intimate relations with

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universities like Princeton donating at

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least $700 million over 10 years but

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unlike most intimate relations were the

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people getting screwed and they pay

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prominent media sources to create paid

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content extolling the virtues of the

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fossil fuel industry and that's why I

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wanted to stop and tell you really quick

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about the new Chevron cares uh program

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that were sponsored by Chevron wants to

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let all of you that's that's not a real

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thing according to a report by drilled

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even the most trusted news outlets run

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internal brand Studios that create

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content for major companies including

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the fossil fuel industry often virtually

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indistinguishable from hard news this

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content packages corporate narratives to

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look like objective media now one

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particularly Wild example is Reuters

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hosting Summits for the fossil fuel

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industry which aims to remove the pain

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points holding back faster production of

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oil and gas that's to say nothing of the

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massive advertising and marketing

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budgets they spend convincing you that

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we really need that oil okay so check

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out this commercial which straight up

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says that if we didn't have oil you

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wouldn't be able to go to the hospital

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you and your unborn baby would probably

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die without oil and gas hospitals

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wouldn't have what they need to keep us

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healthy heal wounds

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save lives and deliver little bundles of

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joy we check out this one which I swear

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to God tries to convince you that if the

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oil industry didn't exist you would

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never get to [ __ ] again that connection

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was brought to by petroleum products so

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is there anything left for us to do

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other than hope that we can get jobs

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writing funny commercials for oil

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companies I'm going to tell you after

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the break but I wanted to take a second

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to shout out our friends over at yellow

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get back to feeling pretty bad about the

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future of the planet now it might seem

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like the fossil fuel industry and

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capitalist is M are like the Ben and JLo

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of corporate political power but the

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good news is that Ben and JLo are

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getting divorced and some contemporary

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philosophers in academics are arguing

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that there are viable alternatives to

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this increasingly hot [ __ ] show I guess

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increasingly hot [ __ ] show can refer

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either to the boiling of the planet or

10:47

Ben and JLo having incredibly hot

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breakup sex these Alternatives go Way

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Beyond simply taxing corporations more

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or subsidizing electric vehicles now one

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option which is proposed by economic GE

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rher Brett Christophers in his new book

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is removing the Renewables Market from

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the private sector and then making it a

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state-funded Enterprise as he writes in

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a recent SAA for time Western

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government's renewable subsidies rarely

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occasion strong profits more commonly

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they allow just about sufficient profit

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to keep the sector afloat he cites

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Warren Buffett who admitted that his

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firm Berkshire hathway only Built wind

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farms for the tax credit Christopher

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points out that there isn't a huge moral

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component to the structure of the fossil

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fuel industry simply follows the logic

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of Campus as he writes the likes of

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Exxon and Chevron continue predominantly

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to drill for hydrocarbons instead of

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investing in Renewables not because they

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and their Executives especially love oil

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but because they love money you know cuz

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these guys like if the brains of babies

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made cars go they would start an

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orphanage and you'd never see the kids

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again but rather than radically

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overthrowing capitalism Christophers

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proposes taking renewable energies out

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of the market and then making them

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public goods in doing so the value of

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these energies wouldn't hinge on stock

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value but I'm protecting the future of

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humanity and as Christophers sees it

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only the state has the necessary

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financial and administrative capacity to

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increase Global investment in solar and

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wind energy at the pace needed so while

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we don't need to undo capitalism as such

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we got to take renewable energies out of

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the capitalist market now at this point

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I bet some of you are thinking oh yeah

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so the same government which seems like

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they can't even tie their own shoes

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they're going to somehow fund and

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develop renewable energy at a rapid clip

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sure boss sure others of you might be

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thinking that this solution doesn't push

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against the dominance of the market

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enough and some of you might still be

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thinking about that extra hot Ben and

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JLo divorce sex and to you I salute you

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okay so let's consider another large

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scale and controversial approach to

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fighting against climate change and the

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economic structures that enable it it's

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called degrowth which economic

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Anthropologist Jason hickle defines as a

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planned reduction of energy and resource

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use designed to bring the economy back

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into balance with the Living World in a

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way that reduces inequality and improves

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human well-being while not A New Concept

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de's most contemporary Advocate is

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Japanese philosopher Koo author of slow

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down the degrowth manifesto utilizing

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some lesser-known works of Carl marks

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Theo argues for a new type of degrowth

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Communism in which everything from

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production to labor hours slow down to

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reverse the effects of climate change

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Jordan Peterson you better not be

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watching right now because this is all

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going to make you real mad for seito the

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political solutions to climate change

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offered by the green New Deal along with

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individual practices like driving

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electric cars and using paper straws are

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little more than the new opiates of the

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masses he writes what kinds of measures

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are you taking personally to prevent

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global warming have you bought a

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reusable shopping bag to reduce your

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Reliance on disposable plastic ones do

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you carry a thermos so you don't end up

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buying drinks in plastic bottles did you

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buy an electric car let me make one

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thing clear from the start these Good

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Deeds are meaningless in the end they

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can even cause more harm than good he

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argues that these policies and practices

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function like Catholic indulgences

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allowing us to escape the pangs of our

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conscience about consumerism and look

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away from the real imminent danger

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around us which in turn allows the

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forces of capital to swaddle our

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concerns in environmental impact

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statements and tuck them away beneath

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the form of deception known as

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greenwashing this is because these forms

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of resistance are all completely

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compatible with the same economic system

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that benefits from the fossil fuel

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industry A system that Cito argues

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enables us to enjoy the Imperial mode of

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living which is how he describes the way

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in which the consumption focused

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lifestyles of those in the global North

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is dependent on the economic and

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ecological exploitation of those in the

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global South his lifestyle is predicated

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on infinite growth that comes at a very

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real cost this leads Saito to infuse his

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plan for degrowth with a Marxist

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analysis of class antagonisms and social

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relations but unlike those who might be

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scared of marks or associate his work

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with Soviet Style communism and

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state-led deprivation SEO argues for a

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communism of abundance as he reads marks

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when he talks about abundance he doesn't

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mean having lots of stuff but what he

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does mean is creating the conditions for

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everyone to have a good life you know

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stuff like Medical Care Transportation

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housing food water all these things

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guaranteed and free Sao opposes this to

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Market environmentalism which promises

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an end to climate change that will still

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boost the economy now like Christopher

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syo thinks that it's pretty absurd to

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expect the profit centered logic of the

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market to really prioritize a shift to

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renewable energy and they both think

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that there's no way to just capitalism

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our way out of climate change and for

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seito this means that we don't just need

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to slow down our industrial production

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but also the production and consumption

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of media especially those which

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perpetuate our culture of consumption so

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sorry Kardashians you're not getting

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renewed once Dr SEO takes over as the

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Zar of all media now as he writes

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production focusing on status symbols

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and luxury goods on advertising and

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brand in while ignoring use value spells

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death in an age of climate crisis there

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are so many vital issues to be addressed

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guaranteeing universal access to Food

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Water electricity shelter and

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transportation combating Rising tithe

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and flooding protecting ecology and so

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on we must prioritize the production of

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things necessary to respond to the

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crisis not things whose worth resides

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only in their capacity to produce value

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I mean one upside to all this is less

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ads for stuff that you don't need on

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YouTube also none of those like tech

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review channels things like that that a

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lot less influencers I don't know it

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sounds pretty good now Christophers and

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syto might Inspire some hope but they

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both do involve a pretty radical shift

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away from our current system we might be

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able to imagine a world in which

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Christopher's policy suggestions were

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taken on by some Western governments and

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renewable energy is able to take off as

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a publicly owned industry however we

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might worry that even if a few major

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Nations made those shifts it might not

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really be enough and it could be even

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harder to imagine seo's degrowth

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communism in action as the seword often

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makes folks imagine a violent revolution

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led by angry men with beards but for

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those of us not quite ready to do a

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revolution SEO makes clear that what he

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envisions is not a reboot of the Russian

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Revolution which he doesn't think would

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magically just change the economic

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system instead what he advocates for is

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something more gradual writing what's

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more realistic is Rosa luxenberg's idea

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of revolutionary real politic through

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reform taxing the rich to introduce a

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maximum income for example reforms and

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policies can bring a lot of changes in

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our daily perception and Behavior even

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though it doesn't overcome capitalism

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immediately but changing our

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Consciousness and behavior in daily life

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creates more room for demanding more

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radical changes he also suggests

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thinking about degrowth on a more local

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scale and a lot of his favorite examples

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are things that involve actions that are

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communal rather than individual he cites

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communities in Detroit that took

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advantage of falling land values to turn

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large swats of the city into urban farms

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and a policy put into action in

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Copenhagen to plant fruit trees all over

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the city to start making food freely

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available and he knows notes that

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policies like this can then have

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Downstream effects because you probably

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don't want your Apple to taste like

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engine exhaust so then you might want to

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expand the already robust bicycle Lanes

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in Copenhagen Theo's ideas for how we

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can meaningfully make change run the

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gamut from starting workers co-ops to

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organizing School strikes from

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volunteering for environmental NOS to

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running for local office all pretty

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doable things if you've done one of

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these things let us know in the comments

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if you want to do any of these things

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tell us and let us support you and he

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thinks these actions can create

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Lifestyles less centered on production

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and consumption and more focused on

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letting us just be humans you know the

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upside of less shopping is more time to

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hang out and figure out what you're into

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and maybe the best part of this idea uh

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is that he imagines a world where we

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have to work less Saito argues that one

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of the biggest contributions to degrowth

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can take place in reforming our

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workplaces through labor unions

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demanding our employers Institute

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environmentally friendly policies and

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advocating for here it is folks shorter

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work weeks he writes that right now we

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work 5 days a week and often more than

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40 hours we could immediately reduce

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that to 4 days with Technologies I think

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we could go down to three in the future

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so that's a 25h hour work week what will

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we do with all this new time we will

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spend more time with family we will

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Garden we might do Sports we will do

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some volunteering and have some

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political engagement in the planning of

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what we produce and what our local

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government do we will commute not by car

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but by bus and Tra and our workplace

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will be more horizontal we should have

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more job rotation should not always be

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the same person doing the best part of

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the job and then some people cleaning

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their clothes with new technologies we

19:32

can share more and rotate jobs let me

19:35

know what you would do with more time

19:36

imagine that 25h hour work week what

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else are you doing I'm probably watching

19:40

a lot more movies hopefully reading more

19:43

playing music a lot and probably making

19:45

more elaborate recipes like I'm probably

19:46

cooking lunch every day well maybe not

19:49

as easy as drinking a smoothie with a

19:51

paper straw these examples show that

19:52

it's not some absolute either or between

19:55

large scale political Solutions and just

19:57

some ineffective small actions or OPI

20:01

now this doesn't mean that you know if

20:02

we all get to work this weekend we're

20:04

going to reverse climate change but it

20:05

does mean the next time an oil CEO looks

20:08

you in the eye and says climate change

20:09

is your fault you can throw a book at

20:11

him and tell him to read up maybe also

20:13

to suck your di okay so you might be

20:14

thinking this is the part of the video

20:16

where I'm going to tell you to do

20:17

something but it's not really what we do

20:20

uh but this is in the Wheelhouse of our

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friends over at yellow dot so go over to

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their Channel right now and watch part

20:26

two of this video which is my interview

20:28

with yellow dots director Stacy Robert

20:31

Steel there's a link here and a link in

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the description click either one and

20:35

once you're there be sure to subscribe

20:36

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20:38

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20:40

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20:42

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20:46

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20:47

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20:52

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20:53

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20:56

thanks in general for just hanging out

20:57

and being here if you are still here why

20:59

don't you ring the bell you know like

21:01

this video subscribe to the channel uh

21:03

but in general I just really hope that

21:05

one day we all work a whole lot less and

21:08

in the meantime I don't know take it

21:10

easy slow down a little bit stop

21:12

consuming so much take a walk drink some

21:15

water take a nap you deserve it I'll see

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you next time

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