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2025 Budget Hearing Meeting #2 - 12/10/24

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good evening everybody um we will call

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our second official budget hearing to

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order um so I will ask Mr truell to do

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the roll call for us

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Miss Daniels here Miss Davis present

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Miss green present Mr Jones here Miss

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Rose present Mr Rodriguez present Miss

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Bowers present all right thank you

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everybody for being here tonight uh we

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do have a little change to our agenda

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we're going to have the Bureau of fire

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go first but before we begin I am going

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to have the office of Finance give a

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little bit of an overview of some

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technical correction that will be coming

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down in the

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budget good evening Council uh there was

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uh technical correction in the

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department of solicitors office or

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Bureau of a solicitor's office as well

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as the

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uh Department of codes and I have

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attachments here that kind of that can

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show you exactly um with highlights that

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there's no actual changes to the dollar

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amounts to the numbers itself uh simply

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the position in solicitor's office the

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position the second position for the

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legal assistant um did not show up due

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the programming error uh as well as over

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in the in the uh codes division in the

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codes area uh their position for the uh

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electrical residential inspector did not

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show as well because of a coding error

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those are uh two new positions that's

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being requested for the 2025 budget and

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uh when when I went through and added

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those positions the programming was

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missed therefore I'll take full uh fault

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for this uh but ultimately I have the

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corrected documents here that includes

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those positions the amounts um

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highlights as well as the actual

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documents that drive uh the the document

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in the budget book uh as proof

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ultimately to show that the numbers did

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not change at all um if you have any

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questions I'm all ears um but just

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wanted to bring that bring that to light

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um and uh be forthcoming about uh

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technical correction um as it did not it

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was not presented in your current

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book Thank you very much and so the

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calculations were in there the position

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just wasn't showing correct all right uh

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I don't have any questions do I have

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questions from any of my

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colleagues all right thank you very

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much and now Chief inline whenever you

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are ready please feel free good good

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evening members of council and I

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apologize for my appearance tonight uh

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the Bure fire has been operating since

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about 10:30 last night we just cleared a

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rather large fire up at the state

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hospital complex so uh my appearance I

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apologize for but it's part of the part

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of the job that we're here for protected

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our citizens 24 hours a day seven days a

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week uh on their schedule not ours

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so I'll let J I think Jared's going to

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run our PowerPoint for us you can uh

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flip to the next slide I think a

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department overview um again our

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business hours are dictated by the needs

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of our citizens we provide service to

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the residents visitors and our

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surrounding municipalities 24 hours a

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day seven days a week 365 days a year

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that adhere with our admission statement

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and then additionally our core values uh

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on the following

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slide excuse me Chief anderline can you

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pleas please move the microphone closer

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to you I've never been told I was too

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quiet thank

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you moving on to significant budget

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changes um really not a significant

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budget change uh 2024 budget was 9.9

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million we're at 10.5 and I'll explain a

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little bit more in detail on where those

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numbers come from on the next

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slide there's a 3.5% contractual salary

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increase for our membership uh for the

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union membership we did increase our

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overtime from 400,000 to 475,000

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building improvements is probably one of

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the biggest ones from 50,000 to

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500,000 and uh we have an inter fund

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transfer of 500,000 and then our sewer

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water and maintenance is being

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transferred back to the fire Bureau to

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pay Council may remember earlier this

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year you did a budget reallocation for

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water sewer and Sewer maintenance so

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that we could take those budget numbers

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over so that the 2024 requested budget

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was zero so there was a pretty

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significant uh increase there so uh

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looking at the overtime that was obvious

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uh just because of the amount of members

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that we have currently deployed in the

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military we have four we do have one

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coming back uh shortly several long-term

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uh injuries and both uh on duty and uh

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personal injuries that that folks are

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dealing with along with the health

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issues that we see uh in FMLA with

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newborns and things uh with members

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having new children the building

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improvements uh we've had that in our

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Five-Year Plan for five years now uh one

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thing is going to be a new station

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alerting system for all the stations

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that will take information directly from

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Dolphin County's computerated dispatch

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system to alert our members to that uh

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that was due to a change of uh the

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county pushing us to go to uh one single

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dist dispatch channel as opposed to our

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own private dispatch channel and then

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the second part of that 500,000 is

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remodeling the bedroom at the fire

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station to and we believe that that'll

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be about a $300,000 project and the

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station alerting system is about a

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$200,000 project uh the in fund transfer

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I'm actually pretty proud of this uh we

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created a syncing fund and Council may

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remember uh over multiple years we've

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replaced a lot of fire apparatus and we

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always come down for a large

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appropriation every year for those when

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we need to buy the apparatus so what

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we're asking for is to transfer into our

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fire protection fund funding every year

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so that when we come down to and need to

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purchase that next piece of fire

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apparatus that ask is not as great so

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we're keeping that money set aside on an

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annual basis um so that we can fund

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those apparatus purchases as they become

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uh

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needed moving on to our

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diversity we are uh we currently have 94

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Personnel uh with one civilian position

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we have 82 white males five black males

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three Hispanic males two American Indian

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males and two

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females and moving on to

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vacancies our current compliment uh as

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of to as of yesterday uh is 93 our 2024

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budgeted compliment was

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103 with three of those positions being

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unfunded so they showed up in the budget

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but there was no allocation for those

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additional three which leaves us a

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current uh vacancy of seven and I just

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want to point out um a couple things uh

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as it pertains to vacancies um we would

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certainly like to have that complement

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of 103 109

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110 however with the uh taxing base that

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we have in the city with a lot of these

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businesses highrises going back for

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reassessments what I don't want to do uh

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is hire firefighters that we can't

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afford in 10 years um we are holding our

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own with our current compliment and I

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don't want to bring anybody else on

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until we can figure out if we have the

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ability to pay for that the one way that

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we can pay for that uh and I advocate

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for this is the hiring of a lobbyist and

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I know that that's a touchy subject with

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Council but I'm

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begging for that before January and I'll

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tell you why when we go over there I go

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over personally and meet with scores of

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Representatives and

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Senators to get additional funding we

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get five million a year it's been

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stagnant at 5 million for the last 10

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years we have not been able to get it

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over that 100 yard line and score a

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touchdown for us uh over over the last

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five six years that have been going over

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there and it really comes down to the

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people that know the people to get the

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money in the budget for and I believe

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that having that lobbyist work for us

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and using it from the fire department

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standpoint will be beneficial to every

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citizen because if we get that extra two

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or three million that we're asking for

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that will allow us to increase that

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budgeted compliment and better protect

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our citizens so I think there's a direct

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uh correlation to that and I think

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there's an ultimate payoff that protects

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our citizens in a much better way and i'

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I've been in front of you many times o

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over the last 10 years about the

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diminished number of volunteers that we

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have coming in to assist us in the city

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last night they did a tremendous job we

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had we had a tremendous uh outpouring of

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support from our mutual Aid Partners

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first time that in my 30 years here that

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we've used a tanker task force um which

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is unheard of in the city but we had a

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lot of mutual Aid folks come in

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yesterday was an anomaly compared to

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what it would be at Tuesday at 2 o'clock

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in the afternoon when I only have 16

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firemen on the street and I may only get

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two or three from each of those

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companies coming uh so that it is

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imperative um that we work to get that

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number increased from the Commonwealth

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to assist us that gives us a positive

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Revenue stream coming in uh that we can

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rely on year after year and I don't have

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to worry about three or four or five

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years from now where we have to lay

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firefighters off because that's not what

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we're in business to do we need them and

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uh I believe that that lobbyist would be

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a significant benefit um for the fire

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Bureau uh the budget uh as as you well

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know talk start in January with the

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governor and uh it would be great to be

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in there and I can tell you through the

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uh subsquent Area Regional Airport

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Authority which uh I'm a chairman of the

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operations committee we just hired a

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lobbying firm and they're already boots

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on the ground identifying those sources

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of income to help support the airport

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and Airport operations it's just it's so

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important for us for the fire department

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standpoint and I I would really love to

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to have those guys on board that I can

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meet with and go and be that

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spokesperson alongside going into those

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offices people that know how to get us

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set those

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fundings uh you know ideally we'd have

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you know as I said more uh more Staffing

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on the street and it also uh looking at

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statistics community relations and

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things like that I have nobody so it is

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the four of us uh and one person in the

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office so our office complement is

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essentially five I do have one fire

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inspector uh and those numbers again

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with that additional funding from the

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state if we can Garner that will help us

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to better serve the citizens with other

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opportunities that we have moving on uh

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just wanted to highlight retirements we

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had six retirements thus the vacancies

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and we do know we have one retirement

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coming in January that was just

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announced on

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Monday moving on to

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Grants we currently have a dolphin

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County gaming grant that we're working

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through for

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$250,000 it's a floor project uh at both

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of the fire station station one and

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station two

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in 2024 we were awarded to 2023 24 fire

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commissioner grant for $155,000 we

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purchased new tools and equipment for uh

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the new apparatus that we purchased we

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got a

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$5,000 Northfolk southern safety first

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grant and we're designing uh timers

12:47

specifically for our elderly and the

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elderly highrises one of the things that

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we look at our statistics uh when we

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have a chance to do that is we do a lot

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of unattended cooking calls uh in those

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uh elderly high-rise buildings and if we

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can give them a timer um to set that

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will wake them up after say five or 10

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minutes it will help us and maybe

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diminish those number of false alarms

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that were going to those particular

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properties um cdbg funding um we were uh

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given $500,000 earlier this year thus

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far we've purchased uh atmospheric air

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monitors that were uh that were in need

13:21

of replacement new hydraulic tools and

13:24

equipment for uh new apparatus we just

13:27

received a th000 uh smoke alarms that we

13:29

we install throughout the city uh free

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of

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charge uh we're doing some safety

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upgrades to our Reserve Tower one uh

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we're waiting on parts for that to begin

13:37

that's a $73,000 project updates updates

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to the diesel exhaust systems at all the

13:44

stations that's about a 86 $887,000

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project and the replacement of the bay

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doors at fire stations number one and

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two and as Council will remember uh we

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were allocated funding to replace the

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front doors uh two years ago that

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project was was completed and this will

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be the final phase of putting new doors

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on to replace about 30 35 year old doors

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on the fire stations we are currently

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working with the Grants Department on an

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assistance to Firefighters grant for

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firefighter physicals and cancer

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screening and we applied for and will

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likely be awarded $155,000 from the

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State Fire Commissioner's office again

14:22

next year and we're going to dedicate

14:23

that money to firefighter physicals

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again uh giving back to those that serve

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our community uh day in and day

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out moving on to arpa projects um the

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replacement of the fire Bureau radios

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which was awarded uh those radios were

14:38

purchased received the invoice was paid

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and nearly all those radios are

14:42

currently in service in apparatus and

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issued to each individual

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firefighter new positions again we have

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no new positions uh in the 2025 budget I

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certainly would love to tell you in 2026

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that we're going to hire additional

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Personnel uh we will begin uh in January

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hiring uh to replace those six that we

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lost uh through retirements in

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2024 don't think I had any notes on that

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now year-to-date

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budget uh does our current year-to dat

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budget align um with our 2025 ASCO we'll

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discuss out in the next couple of

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slides uh again looking at the overtime

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I just and I I think I've told Council

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this the last at least eight years uh

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when we look at the uh year-to-date

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expended for 2024 is 1 Point uh two

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million essentially on a

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$475,000 budget and a lot of that

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overtime uh is is in two two areas uh

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number one we had those unexpected

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deployments of four Personnel to active

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duty military which took four folks out

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we have two long-term uh injuries that

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we're dealing with uh but more

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importantly uh the deployment of

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Pennsylvania Tas for one uh really

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manipulates those numbers up and down

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throughout the year we could certainly

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budget and put in there 1.2 million but

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it would make the budget lopsided so we

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feel confident budgeting 475 come back

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to city council after those deployments

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and adjust revenue and expenses

16:16

accordingly with the money that we'll be

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receiving back from the federal uh

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government uh severance pay was uh

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significantly higher this year because

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of the six

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retirees uh we still feel confident on

16:30

$85,000 now if we get another six to

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retire we will have to do some

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reallocation understand though that when

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we have those uh employees with multiple

16:38

years of service those 20 plus year uh

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veterans uh that will also cut down on

16:43

the salaries and wages because the new

16:44

folks coming in will be at a lower

16:46

salary rate because they're not here 20

16:48

plus years uh the Medicare premium Part

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B uh we're budgeting at 185 uh we were

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only budgeting at 85 uh there were a lot

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of members in the fire Bureau of retired

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members uh and their wives that are now

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reaching uh that benefit age and

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contractually we were obligated to pay

17:06

their Medicare Part B premium for them u

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in retirement once once they reach that

17:12

age uh lost time Med uh again that was

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one that we asked for a

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reallocation I feel confident uh that

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300,000 is going to cover it and and I

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hope um that we'll be a little bit below

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that again we had two significant

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injuries that we were dealing with uh

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this past year and hopefully we will get

17:30

those resolved with requiring a lot of

17:32

specialty visits with u just a plethora

17:34

of crazy doctors quite honestly uh and

17:38

in the fire pension plan that obviously

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uh is calculated by the Commonwealth uh

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at 1.1 million this year uh and the

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majority of that is actually uh

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reimbursed to the city from the

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Commonwealth for the uh Pension Plan uh

17:53

through the foreign fire tax and other

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means moving on to the next slide

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uh tools and Hardware uh we had and I'll

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lump these all together tools Hardware

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vehicle parts and supplies those were

18:07

all hired this year because of the

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purchase of the new apparatus we had a

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lot of tools and equipment that we

18:12

wanted to buy we used to in the fire

18:14

Bureau um have to transfer equipment

18:16

from one to the other uh anytime a

18:19

Frontline rig went out of service excuse

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me we are uh now have those rigs fully

18:24

stockit it if we have a a call like we

18:26

did last night where we need multiple

18:27

Reserve apparatus we still have enough

18:29

of tools and equipment to effectively uh

18:32

take care of the community so uh those

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were a couple of areas where we we were

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uh

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overspent uh and then building

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improvements obviously we already talked

18:41

about that on the on the first Slide the

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uh the jump in that and then the

18:44

operations equipment uh that went from

18:48

989 uh which also included those radios

18:51

that we purchased uh down to zero

18:53

because we're not purchasing a fire

18:54

apparatus uh in 2025

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roles exceeding uh 2% increases is just

19:03

a management Chiefs to keep uh

19:04

management me members in alignment with

19:07

the bargaining unit increases which were

19:09

3.5 and

19:11

3.75% uh and to make sure that that

19:14

position of deputy chief uh remains a

19:18

fairly lucrative one for the member to

19:21

come out of a 4-day work week with four

19:23

days off every week to a five-day work

19:26

week with two days off every week um and

19:28

and uh you know and also do away with

19:31

the overtime so as I said our members

19:34

have been on scene last night since 10

19:36

o'clock uh and I I was there right

19:38

alongside of them so that's kind of what

19:40

you get from the management Chief's

19:42

position um and uh it it gets wearing

19:46

and I I think that's what we're kind of

19:47

showing there with the burnout building

19:49

sometimes you get burnout like we are

19:51

here tonight after a long 24

19:54

hours moving on to departmental

19:56

Highlights uh we're going to continue

19:58

with our current Staffing model and

20:00

response model for Effective response

20:02

continue to all the training programs

20:03

you remember we hired a deputy chief of

20:06

training to increases the training and

20:09

uh the availability of training and

20:10

quality training and consistent training

20:13

across all four of our platoons

20:15

Implement a new records management

20:16

system which we've been working on for

20:18

about the last six months uh we have

20:21

we'll have that up and running uh

20:22

January 31st onto a new system and we'll

20:25

be going switching from the niffers

20:28

system into to nearest which is a new

20:30

federal uh requirement uh by the end of

20:32

next year we're going to explore some

20:34

further fire inspection opportunities

20:36

both internally and externally so we may

20:38

be coming to council uh Midway through

20:40

the year with a uh external uh self

20:44

inspection program and we're going to be

20:46

looking at some opportunity for that

20:48

that will not only benefit uh the fire

20:51

Bureau from a inspection standpoint but

20:53

it will also benefit codes as well uh

20:58

we're going going to uh finalize those

20:59

capital projects that we've talked about

21:01

and we're going to um continue our

21:03

emphasis on uh Community engagement with

21:06

smoke alarm installations carbon

21:08

monoxide alarm installations street

21:10

fairs block parties uh our one of our

21:13

favorite National Night Out station

21:15

tours and Fire Prevention activities and

21:17

we did I I did have some and I apologize

21:20

again I was in the office like

21:22

literally maybe 10 minutes today uh we

21:26

did approximately three

21:29

200 smoke alarm installations uh in 2025

21:32

so far and I know there's a several

21:34

scheduled this

21:38

weekend 2024 what did I say it's getting

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late thank you

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councilman uh so just looking at how we

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uh you know how we look at ourselves uh

21:52

we look at NFPA 1710 Staffing uh which

21:55

is uh six minutes that's actually in in

21:58

the uh

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uh it's typically in the standard

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written in seconds so not to confuse

22:04

anyone we're looking at minutes uh and

22:07

we look at this uh so 92% of the

22:10

incidents and you'll see it it's only 84

22:13

and that's that's the structure fire

22:15

responses uh we meet uh the goal is 90%

22:19

of the time we're exceeding that at 92%

22:21

of the time and quite frankly when we

22:23

look at that uh we do have times when

22:25

we're dispatched for a structure fire

22:27

where it's not a structure fire and it

22:29

the coding for that doesn't change and

22:31

so uh we only end up with three

22:33

firefighters showing up on that where

22:35

we're looking uh for that six complement

22:38

and that's that's where sometimes those

22:39

numbers get skewed we're well within the

22:41

national average of uh 90 uh percent so

22:46

we're happy with that when we look at uh

22:49

we look at the overall uh calls and this

22:52

is inside the city of Harrisburg current

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as of I think it was the 8th of December

22:58

uh

22:59

2762 calls inside of uh the city of

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Harrisburg and of those these are

23:06

whether we go out the door with one

23:07

piece of apparatus or four pieces of

23:09

apparatus or it's a first alarm

23:10

structure fire we take everything this

23:13

includes all those that where we're

23:14

going lights and siren or if we're just

23:17

driving normal street speed what we call

23:19

class three response so even at that

23:21

we're meeting the goal uh of that six

23:23

minute response time 88% of the time uh

23:26

so we're still giving the citizens a

23:28

pretty good response time uh as it

23:30

pertains to even non-emergency

23:33

responses uh which the NFPA does not

23:35

recognize in the

23:37

standard standard still 90% though yes

23:40

90% yeah for emergency incidents and

23:43

that's why that's filtered out to

23:44

include the non-emergency incident so

23:46

those that are uh those that would be

23:49

dispatched by the county as a

23:50

non-emergency call I just wanted to show

23:53

the where we were even if we Factor

23:55

those uh into it gotcha and then just

23:58

looking at the the call overview right

24:00

now we're at uh 3,194 incidents so that

24:03

includes all those Mutual a calls that

24:05

we do uh and the prior year we were at

24:09

uh I'm sorry 3,263 incidents a year to

24:12

date and prior year was

24:14

3,110 so we did have a significant

24:16

increase uh over that uh two-day period

24:20

where we were dealing with the tornado

24:22

uh so that that was a little bit of an

24:24

increase and we had another bad storm

24:25

came through that uh that peaked our

24:27

numbers as well so uh you know

24:29

statistics only tell the story they want

24:32

you to tell and so you can look at and

24:34

say oh my goodness you're doing more

24:35

work uh you know what are you guys doing

24:38

really I think you look at two or three

24:40

separate days accounts for the majority

24:42

of those increases in incidents not not

24:44

to say that our guys aren't doing work

24:46

that we're we're uh doing a ton of

24:49

work looking at training uh total

24:53

student hours is what we like to look at

24:55

uh is uh 14,6 74 uh hours you'll see

25:00

that spike in May and that spike in May

25:02

is when we log all the hours for our new

25:04

employees that are going through the

25:06

fire academy and things like that so

25:07

that's why you see the spike uh in may

25:10

we do our Arc program where they get all

25:12

kinds of uh additional training uh to

25:14

make them Street

25:17

ready and then our performance Matrix uh

25:21

it kind of goes to takes us back to the

25:23

the prior three pages but we strive to

25:26

meet those National consensus standards

25:27

to include n PA 1710 on response time

25:30

and Staffing for incidents uh looking at

25:32

Staffing the response time again to

25:34

emergency incidents and in the uh ISO um

25:37

which we've talked to council many times

25:39

about that includes Staffing training

25:41

for firefighters to travel distance and

25:42

number of engine and truck companies

25:44

within the city are hydrants which uh

25:47

we've had a really good working

25:48

relationship with Capitol region water

25:50

and the uh the Water crew uh making sure

25:54

that those hydrants get uh inspected on

25:56

an annual basis which wasn't happening

25:59

uh when uh when when I first came down

26:01

here 10 years ago and that's that number

26:03

is really increased and we're excited to

26:05

see how that affects our ISO uh the next

26:07

time that that comes up uh next year I

26:09

believe uh again it's also looking at

26:12

tools and equipment and then the testing

26:13

of pumps and Aerials and

26:16

ladders and with that we will answer any

26:18

questions that you may

26:20

have thank you very much um I think that

26:23

was a pretty thorough presentation so

26:25

thank you for that uh I don't have any

26:27

questions I will start with questions

26:29

from our colleagues uh starting with a

26:31

public safety chair down there

26:33

councilman Jones vice president green

26:35

thank

26:36

you excuse me I just have um I agree I

26:40

think this was a a well laid out um

26:44

PowerPoint uh but the question I have is

26:46

around a a $500,000 spend and um for the

26:51

bathroom and the bedroom okay so can you

26:55

explain to me or to the public uh that

26:59

spin is we're we're not talking about

27:00

one bedroom right well when we say one

27:03

bedroom uh currently all of our

27:05

firefighters sleep next to each other in

27:08

an open bedroom environment so um if if

27:11

I may the way the council desks are laid

27:13

out that is how my firefighters sleep in

27:16

the fire station uh so what we want to

27:18

do and we have a large open area in the

27:20

middle of that so this is a very large

27:21

room um with uh is there 22 Murphy Beds

27:24

I believe it is we like to get rid of

27:27

those Murph beds and replace them with

27:30

20 22 I believe it is uh and replace

27:33

those with individual a dorm style uh

27:36

sleeping facility uh for

27:39

privacy got you no further

27:42

questions thank you councilman

27:45

Rodriguez thank you Madame vice

27:47

president thank you gentlemen for uh

27:49

being here this evening just for context

27:51

in the budget when we speak of apparatus

27:53

do we mean trucks do we mean air units

27:55

what specifically are we referring to so

27:58

when we talk apparatus that could be

27:59

anything in our Fleet um so that could

28:01

be anything from a tractor drawn aerial

28:03

to a boat um so that is our apparatus en

28:08

rolling stuff thank you no further

28:10

questions thank you councilwoman Ross

28:13

good evening thank you all for coming

28:14

tonight it was a a great presentation

28:16

didn't leave me with any questions all

28:18

of mine were answered in the

28:20

presentation so thank

28:22

you thank you president Bowers thank you

28:25

good evening I don't have any uh

28:27

questions thank you for your

28:29

presentation thank you councilwoman

28:31

Davis thank you vice president green

28:34

thank you Chief edene and for your team

28:36

for being here and thank you especially

28:38

for the service that you provide and for

28:40

saving lives in our community every day

28:42

and thank you for being here because I

28:45

know you've been out all night so you

28:48

eyes look pretty good um I was just

28:51

going to ask about the smoke detectors

28:54

the 200 smoke detectors that you're

28:55

putting in I guess various hom in the

28:58

city are they the updated ones the the

29:03

sealed fire um smoke alarms yes so about

29:07

I want to say six eight years ago when

29:10

they first came out we made it a policy

29:13

that we will no longer install any smoke

29:15

alarm that requires a battery to be

29:16

changed so everything that we buy is a

29:18

10-year lithium battery smoke alarm yes

29:21

okay great because I think HUD just came

29:24

out with a requirement for everyone to

29:27

have a your sealed smoke alarm um in

29:31

each unit so yeah not to beat the dead

29:34

horse but um I support that

29:37

wholeheartedly and I I don't believe

29:39

that any uh retail outlet should carry

29:42

anything that requires a replacement of

29:43

a batter anymore just the technology is

29:46

there it's proven uh and when we install

29:48

that um we we have confidence that at

29:51

least for the next 8 to 10 years that

29:53

that smoke alarm is going to protect

29:55

that that Resident that we just

29:57

installed for so and of those 200 homes

30:00

uh we typically install about four three

30:03

to four smoke detectors so that's you

30:05

know we're looking 12200 smoke detectors

30:07

we go through every year uh to protect

30:09

our citizens how many smoke detectors

30:12

would you uh install in a one-bedroom

30:14

apartment so uh depending on the layout

30:18

uh you know depending on the layout and

30:20

if it's an apartment it probably would

30:22

be required to have a fire alarm system

30:25

as opposed to single station smoke

30:27

alarms

30:29

okay thank

30:30

you thank you councilwoman

30:33

Daniels all right seeing no other

30:36

questions thank you gentleman for being

30:37

here tonight uh and for your

30:38

presentation of course for all the work

30:40

that you do now go get some rest we

30:42

thank uh you know just on a on a parting

30:44

thought uh to leave on a on a high note

30:46

we appreciate council's commitment to

30:48

the fire Bureau um without you and

30:51

without our firefighters we would not be

30:52

able to properly Serve and Protect uh

30:54

the citizens and uh every year that I've

30:56

come down here Council been gracious

30:58

with the budget uh and you know you see

31:02

that as the dollars and cents we get to

31:04

see that from the reactions of the

31:05

citizens when we're assisting them at 2

31:07

o'clock in the morning so we appreciate

31:09

it thanks for your

31:15

support moving on with our agenda the

31:18

next order of business will be the

31:20

budget for the Bureau of police

32:11

be a little easier this be a little EAS

32:44

what's

32:49

that good evening gentlemen uh whenever

32:52

you're ready if you could just introduce

32:53

yourselves uh give an overview of your

32:55

department and then whatever present

32:57

presentation you have feel free to get

32:59

started right bear with me for one

33:01

minute and I have

33:04

hand and then set some handouts I mean

33:08

most of it is a PowerPoint that we

33:09

presented you earlier uh pay

33:11

justifications which uh we got a little

33:14

tied up today which I didn't get a

33:15

chance to get out uh job description for

33:17

the sport and Outreach

33:19

coordinator um and then some recruiting

33:22

posters and stuff in there as well I

33:25

have some

33:26

uh chips that have the uh obviously our

33:30

logo on them and then on the back side

33:32

has the uh QR code for the

33:39

recruiting it's in there

34:10

C

34:32

where we

34:33

were engaged in a shootout down on um

34:38

Cameron Street in the city of Harrisburg

34:40

so he was apprehended unfortunately he

34:43

um succumbed to his injuries so we were

34:47

my guys have been up every since Sunday

34:49

most of them trying to apprehend this

34:52

person and it's all for the protection

34:54

of the citizens of our great City

35:00

uh good evening deputy chief young uh

35:03

obviously commissioner is here with me

35:05

um we have Captain Martin who's in

35:07

charge of our human for Patrol

35:09

Division Captain mcgar seated right

35:11

behind me he's in charge of the

35:12

technical services division DC Young can

35:15

you pull your yeah yeah all the

35:18

paperwork sorry uh Captain wheen sitting

35:22

in the back row he's in charge of our

35:23

criminal investigation Division and I

35:25

think everybody knows Captain wer we

35:27

were down here last night for theet

35:29

contract um so the first slide obviously

35:32

this is our proposal uh what you see on

35:34

the slide right now is the or chart for

35:37

the Bureau of police not to get too deep

35:39

into it but it is headed by the uh

35:42

police commissioner uh followed by

35:44

myself and then four captains you see

35:45

the various divisions um this or chart

35:48

is from last year what we do is we

35:50

revisit this and we'll redo this again

35:52

uh next month to add uh to make the

35:55

adjustments that we made throughout the

35:56

year

35:58

next slide uh you'll see the total

36:00

budget uh so if we do a comparison

36:02

between 21 or between 2024 and 2025 uh

36:06

last year's budget was

36:08

2,424

36:11

53174 uh this year's budget is 20,

36:14

479,000

36:29

all right next slide you'll see the the

36:30

uh departmental uh diversity uh this is

36:33

how the Department's laid out we have

36:35

currently um 126 uh males 35 females uh

36:40

then you see the racial complement uh

36:42

125 are white 23 are African-American 10

36:46

Hispanic and then three Asian uh we also

36:49

have on this Slide the language is

36:51

spoken uh read or understood by the

36:54

police department uh we can also add on

36:56

there which I found out today we have a

36:59

uh someone who speaks French uh someone

37:01

who speaks guy and someone who speaks T

37:05

I know I mispronounced

37:08

that so sorry about that but yeah so we

37:11

can add those three to the list as

37:14

well all right next slide yep curveent

37:16

position totals uh you'll see it on the

37:19

slide up there the budgeted numbers on

37:20

your uh left hand side we have a total

37:23

of 194 budgeted positions uh of those

37:27

positions which you see up there we have

37:28

a total of 161 which are currently

37:30

filled leaving US 33 vacancies uh the

37:33

biggest vacancy obviously is the patrol

37:35

officer spot um which I'll get into a

37:38

little later um and then I will tell you

37:41

that

37:42

December uh we tried to fill the parking

37:44

enforcement uh spots uh did some

37:46

interviews we offered two positions uh

37:49

they declined uh so that leaves us back

37:52

to it was in-house right uh well it went

37:54

through the in-house phase so we it was

37:56

it was posted in internally there were

37:58

no biders on that and then what we did

38:00

is we after that process we posted

38:02

externally is where we got applicants

38:04

for that so we had two people that that

38:06

actually we offered uh jobs to uh they

38:10

turned those jobs down so we'll start

38:11

the health process again um in h January

38:16

and then at the U the director community

38:19

relations uh we after a couple

38:21

interviews we were able to fill that

38:23

spot uh that individual starts on

38:24

December 23rd

38:30

all right again total vacancies uh this

38:32

year was particularly uh was

38:34

particularly challenge for all division

38:35

with forced overtime for officers

38:37

supervisors and uniform Patrol to cover

38:39

the districts we had officers working

38:40

seven days a week uh for coverage and

38:42

then csas were working six days a week

38:44

to to attend the community events uh

38:46

what you see on the slide there it goes

38:48

through the first quarter of

38:50

2025 uh so um we know in January that we

38:53

have two detectives and one patrol

38:55

officer retiring we know in February we

38:57

have another sergeant retiring which

38:59

creates additional vacancies on that uh

39:01

that list as well um the numbers on the

39:05

graph are known at the time of the

39:07

currently right now what uh what it

39:09

doesn't include and where we have a big

39:12

problem is the people with less than

39:13

five years leaving the department for

39:15

various reasons I can tell you in 2022

39:17

we had four in 2025 or sorry in

39:21

2023 we had five and in 2024 this year

39:25

alone we had eight so they're the ones

39:28

that are unaccounted for on that list um

39:30

and it's for various reasons why they

39:31

leave uh some of it's money uh some of

39:34

it would be the uh the shift option that

39:37

we run right now which we be exploring

39:38

that um but we are still losing the the

39:42

people with less than five years

39:44

experience uh All Things Considered if

39:46

you look at the bottom it says 18

39:48

additional off officers and detectives

39:50

could retire in 225 after 20 years

39:52

completion of service so that's the one

39:54

that if if everybody with 20 years of

39:56

service decided to retire you would have

39:59

there would be 18 additional spots on

40:01

the

40:03

budget um Staffing levels are critical

40:06

low or critically low at this time uh so

40:09

we'll be looking in going into 2025 at

40:11

some

40:12

reorganization uh of the bureau to fill

40:15

those basic needs um so we'll be looking

40:17

at that we we're going to explore some

40:19

different Staffing options for each

40:20

division to align which aligns with the

40:22

city of Harrisburg and the fop contract

40:25

uh on a positive note the commission

40:27

commer we made uh after the last hiring

40:30

process we made um he made conditional

40:32

officers offers to four people uh three

40:35

out of four pass the remaining tests um

40:38

and then they'll be in the hack of

40:39

police the hack police academy in

40:42

January uh again Personnel vacancies

40:44

which we covered we had five retirements

40:46

last year we covered the eight

40:47

resignations and then currently the four

40:49

in the inhouse um in the proposed 2025

40:53

budget uh again these are the vacancies

40:55

which we covered on the slide two

40:56

lieutenants Sergeant two detectives one

40:58

forensics officer and 23 officers what

41:01

we did knowing that we're not going to

41:02

be able to fill those positions in 2025

41:04

or not all them uh what we did uh to uh

41:08

have a little fiscal responsibility is

41:11

for the two Lieutenant spots we funded

41:13

we half funded those uh which was a

41:15

savings of 98,3

41:17

one7 one Sergeant spot that's currently

41:20

open right now was half funded $

41:22

46,6

41:24

7.70 savings two detective spots knowing

41:27

that we're going to pick up two

41:28

detectives uh positions uh in uh January

41:33

and we won't be able to fill four next

41:34

year we zeroed those out savings on that

41:37

was

41:51

$175,200

41:55

$39.95 um and then we zero funded two of

41:58

the police officer spots which is $1

42:02

12,462 20 savings total savings on that

42:05

was

42:26

$71,900 extended two offers and that'll

42:29

be uh that'll take place we'll start

42:31

that again back in January or yeah we'll

42:33

start that in January 2025 I spoke about

42:36

the three uh the 10 spots which was

42:38

asked for the police officer trainees um

42:41

the obviously the police side of hiring

42:44

for the city is not the same as as

42:46

others is we can't run an internal bid

42:48

process such as asme does to fill these

42:50

vacancies um were required by civil

42:53

service and mopc rules to run through uh

42:55

the plethora of tests that we have to go

42:57

through um so I mean it's it's a little

43:01

different to become a police officer and

43:03

probably even a firefighter than it

43:05

would be to become say a part of the

43:07

enforcement R um and then again the uh

43:11

the last one on the previous stream was

43:13

a director of community relations at

43:14

engagement um and that individual will

43:17

start on December

43:20

23d uh recruiting and promotions um the

43:23

next test uh our current testing cycle

43:26

opened up in November uh for a July 2025

43:29

hiring um

43:31

class physical fitness and a written

43:33

test will be administered on February

43:35

23rd uh what we do uh is on each cycle

43:40

is we'll collect names uh and emails so

43:42

we can reach out to people um when the

43:44

testing cycle opens um and what we what

43:47

we had when we started or before this

43:49

testing cycle actually opened is we had

43:51

193 individuals who requested uh to

43:54

receive notification the uh the testing

43:56

CLE since it opened we've had 33 that

43:59

have completed the short application for

44:01

the testing um what we're in the process

44:04

of trying to explore and this isn't

44:06

something new but we're trying to

44:07

revisit it uh different um recruiting

44:10

options such as laterals uh separate act

44:12

120 list and then uh preference points

44:15

for uh residents or city employees so

44:18

there there're the things we'll be

44:19

looking at in order to accomplish a lot

44:21

of that what we got to do is we got to

44:22

reduce Civil Service rules in city or to

44:25

make that happen

44:28

uh yep Grand fund positions we have

44:31

three grand fund positions uh what you

44:33

see up there pccd the VIP Grant uh

44:36

through the end of 2025 will cover the

44:38

support and Outreach coordinator at

44:40

55,000 and then the gvi project manager

44:42

at 65 the LL Grant um is good to the end

44:47

of 2025 and that's $45,000 for the

44:49

evidence uh custodian total

44:51

reimbursement of salaries through the

44:53

grants is 165,000

44:58

what you see on this U budget year

45:00

comparison salaries and wages is

45:04

41400 is basically the three-year

45:06

comparison of salaries uh as well as a

45:08

percentage increase uh in the 2025

45:11

proposed budget you'll see or yeah 2025

45:13

proposed budget you see the salary is

45:16

13,9

45:17

29,40 which is a 3.8% increase uh from

45:22

2024 and I'll explain to you how that

45:25

worked next

45:27

all right so we talked about uh in the

45:30

2024 budget uh the support and Outreach

45:33

coordinator was listed as a part-time

45:35

position uh we were proposing to make

45:38

that full uh a full-time position in

45:40

2025 uh and again the salary is fully

45:43

covered by the the

45:45

grant uh pay raises um so contractual

45:49

fop is a 3.5% pay raise and then the

45:51

asme employees are a 3% pay raise what

45:55

we're proposing would be a 4% pay raise

45:57

for those individuals that you see on

45:59

the screen commissioner myself for

46:01

Captain Special Assistant to the

46:02

commissioner and the police substation

46:04

manager uh the main reason for at least

46:06

the first six uh is the fop contract is

46:10

a 3.5% to keep those jobs or these jobs

46:13

where people wish to do those and keep

46:17

them filled is is if we stay in line

46:20

with the fop contract that sort of kind

46:22

of keeps the the the Gap so to speak

46:25

about the same

46:27

so to be clear you're talking about the

46:29

4% proposed raises for

46:32

commissioner you for captain and special

46:35

assistance with the commissioner and the

46:37

substation manager so yes I explained

46:39

the first six so or sorry it would be

46:41

the first it' be the commissioner myself

46:43

in for TS is where that that fop

46:46

contract is a three 3.5% pay race that's

46:49

where that 4% pay race is to maintain

46:51

that Gap okay continue all

46:55

right um

46:57

of course you heard Chief Airline and

46:59

the commissioner say I mean we're when

47:02

something happen in the city uh it was

47:04

an election year A lot of times what

47:06

you'll end up seeing would be uh we're

47:08

there regardless if we're on call or not

47:10

um what we do is once every six weeks

47:13

we're on a on call basis so we become um

47:18

we become the person that has to make

47:20

the decisions uh for the city when they

47:22

come in or at least for the police

47:23

department when they come in so during

47:25

that that on all week basically we're

47:28

working for two weeks straight we're not

47:29

entitled to any overtime I don't think

47:31

anybody really complaining about it but

47:33

we're not entitled to any overtime um so

47:37

that takes its toll again on on the

47:39

officers or the The Command Staff

47:41

individuals as well as their families so

47:44

I can tell you that at least one of us

47:45

have small children not myself um but we

47:48

have smaller children and we have to

47:49

sort of kind of those events that we

47:51

would normally be able to attend uh

47:53

being on call that stuff gets gets

47:55

pushed aside so we're to make ourselves

47:57

available and respond as

47:59

needed um for the special assistance the

48:02

commissioner a reason for the 4% pay

48:04

increase would be the uh the main reason

48:07

would be that uh this person controls

48:09

the budget uh they handle all everything

48:11

budgetary for us purchases they track

48:14

the expenditures they track uh anything

48:17

budget related um and this is how we get

48:20

to um to the budget that we've come up

48:23

uh this person is very important to uh

48:26

in this whole process I can tell you

48:27

that this is the first time that I've

48:29

gone through it uh it was very

48:30

challenging for me and uh they um they

48:35

have they have a grip on what we're

48:38

doing um the next person would be the

48:41

police substation manager and a lot of

48:43

these positions what you're going to see

48:45

is we had gaps or we had jobs in need

48:47

field and then what we what we were able

48:49

to do is look at the the people in these

48:51

positions and then basically load these

48:53

duties on top of so and they took them

48:55

willingly um but uh so the uh the police

48:59

substation manager uh the additional

49:01

duties we added to uh this person was to

49:04

create yeah to this position was to

49:06

create submit and track divisional

49:08

purchase request uh develop used uh

49:12

systems for tracking divisional

49:14

expenditures um they track the animal

49:16

control purchases uh they assist in

49:19

event coordination uh including

49:21

designing Distributing digital printouts

49:24

um Community uh they post on the

49:27

community service Facebook page uh they

49:30

manage special projects for the

49:32

community services division um and then

49:35

they assist with special events in

49:37

person after hours they assist with the

49:39

collecting and manage of statistical

49:41

data so uh these people uh they put in a

49:45

lot of time over and above their normal

49:48

hours so they're here they're available

49:51

all the

49:53

time on the slide uh right now you'll

49:56

see these proposed uh pay increases we

49:59

would like to move up the accreditation

50:01

manager the courtly aison special events

50:04

coordinator crime analyst there's two of

50:07

them up to 70,000 and the confidential

50:09

secretary to the deputy chief to 55

50:12

again and we'll get into all the the

50:14

extra duties that they do um we can

50:17

start with the accreditation manager um

50:20

I can tell you that on top of being the

50:24

accreditation manager and all those

50:25

duties assign to that particular uh spot

50:29

the uh We've also lumped in there they

50:31

act as the bureau's report management

50:33

system manager and the absence of the

50:35

current one that we have uh she's been

50:37

out for the last six months so we've had

50:40

her fill in um and she's done a wonder

50:42

she did that before um but she filled in

50:45

there um she actually lay leaz on

50:48

between the city of Harrisburg it

50:50

department and the Bureau for any it

50:52

related problems um she designs and

50:55

completes the bu annual and quarterly

50:57

report so the documents that we re

50:59

receive and post uh she's the one that

51:01

writes those um she manages our

51:04

self-reporting system she's a system

51:07

administrator for Cobra uh and Super

51:09

Cobra she manages crime watch

51:12

posts um she manages the bureau's crime

51:14

mapping through crime

51:16

watch uh she does all the UCR Iver

51:20

submissions and the importance of that

51:21

would be that opens uh opens reduces

51:25

Insurance's cost and and uh and it opens

51:27

us up to where we can we can obtain more

51:30

grants um we have to we're required now

51:33

to run a multiactor authentification so

51:36

she's the the police department's point

51:39

on that uh we had to switch non-traffic

51:41

forms she she's the point on that

51:45

um she's available again all the time

51:48

for calls emails to come in whenever

51:51

needed um this job or this position

51:54

could easily be separated into three

51:55

current positions since um I went on zip

51:58

recruiter and I will tell you the

51:59

average salary of police uh

52:02

accreditation manager is uh

52:06

8,629 uh

52:09

dollars special events uh and Court

52:13

liaison special events in addition to

52:15

all the other court Rel related duties

52:17

and uh invoicing and everything else

52:19

that she does um what she took on uh was

52:24

the uh she manages her what this

52:25

position now is advantages uh

52:28

recruitment of police officers for the

52:29

bureau creates a digital applications

52:31

Flyers social media uh articles

52:34

advertisements uh sources the

52:36

applications um for uh for advertising

52:40

recruiting job sites uh actively engages

52:43

and uh follows up with the interested

52:45

applicants manages the uh the

52:48

applications to include collection of

52:50

forms of test scheduling she'll come in

52:52

when we test and manage all that stuff

52:54

uh manages the physical ility test a

52:57

written exam um she has the ability or

53:01

she was uh she received training and

53:03

she's a an official notary uh to the uh

53:06

to the Commonwealth um this year could

53:09

be this position now could be four

53:10

different positions um and and again we

53:14

use zip recruiter court with the Aon if

53:16

we were looking for what of that

53:18

Nationwide the average salary is 76,000

53:21

879 here locally in Harrisburg would be

53:25

75893 um for the special events uh

53:28

Coordinator would be 51 across each

53:31

recruiter would be 51 across each and

53:33

then a notary be 64 Nationwide and then

53:37

63

53:41

um and again I mean she she spends a lot

53:44

of time when we hit recruiting Cycles

53:46

she spends a lot of time answering

53:48

emails attending to phone calls in

53:51

addition to what she usually do I can

53:52

tell you right now it's Court week um

53:54

and she's constantly uh receiving emails

53:57

and and phone calls from the uh District

53:59

Attorney's

54:00

Office uh the two crime analyst what we

54:03

did uh C currently has one crime crime

54:05

analyst um this individual um she came

54:10

to us uh through pacy 12 years ago and

54:12

brought all of her connections with her

54:15

uh when she came here she took a pay cut

54:17

um and and and talking to her I think

54:20

itd be talk to her she she really likes

54:22

what she's doing uh but she did take a

54:23

pay cut to come here and she's built uh

54:26

out of CID um and I'll give you one

54:29

instance uh recently we had a child rap

54:31

um she was able to narrow that down and

54:34

put us to where we needed to go uh in

54:36

order to find the person uh that

54:40

followed through with that investigation

54:42

uh she's done a a very good job built a

54:46

lot of uh of additional resources and

54:49

contacts uh which which helped with the

54:52

uh the investigations currently going on

54:54

in C uh she also uh is attached into the

54:57

lprs and when somebody sends an email

55:00

what she'll end up doing is she'll run

55:02

that person and then give us all the

55:04

information if we're looking for a

55:06

particular individual for a crime so uh

55:09

she's very good at what she does um from

55:12

July 2023 to 2024 she assisted in

55:16

1,98 cases uh with multiple people um

55:21

with her skill set uh a crime analyst in

55:24

central Pennsylvania could make easily

55:28

$70,000 all right the second one crime

55:31

analyst and she's really not she's

55:33

titled is a crime analyst because that's

55:35

what she was hired underneath of uh she

55:38

she has taken on a plethora of other

55:40

duties um she still does a crime analyst

55:43

thing um and she was mainly hired in for

55:47

the community service division um for

55:50

the the information that runs through um

55:53

through the school district and some

55:54

other places um since then uh she has

55:58

taken on um utilizes the computer uh the

56:02

databases and Records management system

56:04

conduct research for statis statistical

56:07

analysis involved in all aspects of of

56:10

police grants um she we have four gr

56:15

three grants we have four grants but

56:16

three of the grants she actually uh

56:18

takes care of and if it wasn't for her

56:21

we would uh in the scheme of things the

56:23

police grants aren't a major project for

56:26

City so um in order to make that process

56:29

move a little faster for us in order to

56:31

get those grants moving she is taking

56:33

that on and she's become the lead on all

56:35

the grants that we have

56:40

um so she makes recommendations for

56:43

investigative uh summarizes and I gave

56:46

you this in the in the in the packet of

56:49

of stuff that it was just handed out

56:53

so um if you want to follow along izes

56:57

maintains confidentiality aderes to

56:59

applicable laws peers in court as an

57:02

expert witness prepares uh informational

57:04

reports for public release assist a

57:07

public information officer uh in the

57:09

oversight of uh and management of

57:12

postings information provides uh

57:15

oversight of specialized databases uh

57:18

assist in reporting the Nish UCR data so

57:21

she's the backup person to that uh she

57:24

oversees management of all police grants

57:27

um she uh she manages the financial and

57:31

ancillary records pertaining to police

57:33

grants provide statistical data again uh

57:37

this person came to us through the uh

57:39

National Center for missing exploited

57:41

children eight years ago um she took a

57:43

pay cut to be here

57:51

um so she's been heavily involved since

57:54

the Inception of the gbi strategy uh

57:56

she's the one that actually was able to

57:58

secure the grant do all the grant

57:59

paperwork and then get that moving to

58:01

where it is is currently she made all

58:03

the contacts with the York City Police

58:05

Department uh York City da

58:08

Philadelphia national network for safe

58:11

communities um she's coordinated through

58:15

the all the different law enforcement

58:17

and uh Court areas um she's secured anou

58:23

from Dolphin County Pro probation uh For

58:26

assistance with gvi strategy and the

58:28

implementation for software um she's

58:31

involved in developing and submitting

58:32

formal applications for budgets for

58:34

pccd uh she drafted another MOA for Gang

58:38

Related software um she handles uh all

58:41

re reporting requirements to pccd for

58:43

the grants handles clearity requests

58:48

um and then she uh manages social media

58:50

sites for CSD and HPD um she's available

58:55

again after hours weekends uh you give

58:58

her a call um what we did again looked

59:00

at this the average uh average Grant

59:03

manager in the city of Harris or in

59:06

Pennsylvania 65,0 819 the average in

59:09

Harrisburg would be

59:11

77,78 uh and then again crime analyst

59:15

with her specific skill set would range

59:18

about $770,000

59:20

um the last one you see up there is a

59:22

confidential secretary to the deputy

59:24

chief we were proposing to raise that

59:25

to5 5,000 um in addition to her curent

59:29

the other duties the duties she was

59:31

hired for um what we did is uh the

59:34

additional duties that she's taken on

59:36

would be the Narcan coordinator uh she's

59:38

coordinated the ordering and tracking

59:40

maintenance of Narcan um report of Naran

59:44

to the uh to the bureau and outside

59:46

agencies researches all the RMS uh drug

59:49

overdoses for entering into Odin were

59:52

required to enter those desks into the

59:54

state system last year loone number 119

59:57

she researches and tracks LCB complaints

1:00:00

attend roll calls uh conduct searches uh

1:00:04

in reference to normal

1:00:06

inquiries

1:00:08

um she manages several different

1:00:11

rosters uh she monitors the autopsy

1:00:13

reports for overdoses and then

1:00:15

distributes narcans uh Naran for work

1:00:17

hours I will tell you we also looked

1:00:19

across the city Budget on this one uh

1:00:21

the city recently hired a uh one

1:00:25

Department in theity hired an individual

1:00:27

with similar uh job description uh at

1:00:30

about

1:00:31

$60,000 so what we did was we took that

1:00:33

comparison as

1:00:36

well again any one of these individuals

1:00:38

if we leave them are very critical to

1:00:39

what we

1:00:42

do all right uh Social Security uh

1:00:45

you'll see there's a decrease in Social

1:00:46

Security 37,1

1:00:49

12684 um and that's due uh mainly to the

1:00:52

reduced uh reduced employees of the open

1:00:56

um the police pension plan um I give you

1:00:59

the Brian McCutchen answer um because

1:01:02

somebody asked why that went down um and

1:01:05

I I couldn't tell you exactly so

1:01:13

uh maybe he can get up and talk to us

1:01:16

sure but no uh his explanation was um

1:01:21

was for the police pension plan the

1:01:23

city's minimal Municipal obligation uh

1:01:25

to the p significantly decreased which

1:01:27

you see on the screen uh there are

1:01:30

various actuary calculation factors in

1:01:33

uh determined by a professional actuary

1:01:35

firm Conrad seagull go into the

1:01:37

calculation worksheet provided by the

1:01:40

actuary including normal uh cost rate

1:01:43

percentages any amortization

1:01:46

requirements and uh any determined

1:01:49

credits go against the total Financial

1:01:51

requirements the actuary also looks at

1:01:54

the invest uh resulting in

1:01:56

return performance of the pension plan

1:01:58

for 2025 the MMO theorization fell below

1:02:02

1.6 million in the credit related to

1:02:04

negative unfunded liability increased uh

1:02:07

to

1:02:10

49423 resulting in that reduction um

1:02:14

that is a number that we uh we don't set

1:02:17

um but I I know somebody had asked that

1:02:19

one one of the that's the best answer I

1:02:22

got Brian is present today maybe he can

1:02:24

elaborate a little better than what I

1:02:25

can

1:02:27

the short answer that when the

1:02:30

police when the

1:02:36

police okay when the police pension plan

1:02:39

is doing well that means that the city

1:02:41

does have to put uh money in there as

1:02:44

much money but when it goes below a

1:02:46

certain level then the city has to put

1:02:50

um money in there is that Cor

1:02:57

yes nothing to do with

1:03:21

providers sorry Brian no I was I was

1:03:26

kind of wondering if you refer to me uh

1:03:28

good evening everybody Brian McCutchen

1:03:30

accounting manager uh Bureau of

1:03:32

financial management um uh deputy chief

1:03:37

he said that very well wrote um

1:03:40

basically there for the prior year MMO

1:03:43

there was a bigger amortization

1:03:45

requirement required was 1.6 million

1:03:48

it's not it's zero for for next year and

1:03:52

then last year there was a credit that

1:03:54

related to the and this is a tougher one

1:03:57

the unfunded um when it's a negative

1:04:00

liability that's like saying it's an

1:04:02

asset so there was a there was no credit

1:04:04

last year but there's a credit for next

1:04:06

year so when you combine the two the 1.6

1:04:09

and almost uh $500,000 credit that

1:04:13

reduces the amount of obligation the

1:04:15

city has to make uh for the police

1:04:17

pension plan those two main factors we

1:04:21

what we do we we work out the payroll uh

1:04:24

the MMO for next year is always based on

1:04:27

what the city projects for its payroll

1:04:29

for current year 2024 so we calculate

1:04:32

that but the actuary sends us a

1:04:35

worksheet and works in all those uh

1:04:38

Nuance type factors that are in in the

1:04:41

Actuarial world not not so much uh on on

1:04:43

our end but you just run the numbers

1:04:45

through that and then that's what

1:04:47

determines the the ultimate

1:04:49

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1:04:52

MMO if anybody's not clear I'll be happy

1:04:54

to refresh it if if need

1:05:00

be that's why I went to

1:05:03

him all

1:05:10

right

1:05:11

next yep so that slide um so we also had

1:05:16

in the 2025 budget um there was total

1:05:19

saving

1:05:20

26,500 basically the uh the contractor

1:05:25

the a for a pilot program with the

1:05:27

school crossing guards ended in uh in

1:05:30

June and the contract was not renewed uh

1:05:34

which the crossing guards went from uh

1:05:37

from the police department back to the

1:05:38

school district uh so we we are not we

1:05:41

don't have that funding source or have

1:05:43

to worry about that uh funding need the

1:05:45

school district uh the crossing guards

1:05:47

and then the gbi coordinator obviously

1:05:50

that was converted from a part-time to a

1:05:53

full-time position into the budget so

1:05:56

that that took it out of the

1:05:58

temporary that's Grant fund correct gvi

1:06:01

coordinator Grant fund yes and just just

1:06:04

real fast not to cut you off about the

1:06:06

uh Crossing in the school guards I just

1:06:09

want to make sure U be clear about this

1:06:11

you know there's always been an issue

1:06:13

with um rsos and the schools and um this

1:06:17

is not Harrisburg Police Department

1:06:19

that's going into the school district

1:06:21

correct correct just make it sure that's

1:06:24

it

1:06:26

I ask what you mean by that not because

1:06:30

um people thought that they would have

1:06:31

to come in front of council and I was

1:06:33

like I don't even think that these are

1:06:34

our officers this is something that the

1:06:36

school district new police

1:06:39

yes the school turn your mic on

1:06:43

sir I'm sorry M president but the school

1:06:46

district is funding their own Force I

1:06:49

think they're starting off with four

1:06:51

officers in 30 something

1:06:53

guards yeah it's not yeah I was just

1:06:57

making sure that it wasn't um harbur

1:06:59

it's not harbur police right the only

1:07:01

the only thing that we have to do with

1:07:03

them is to train them things like that

1:07:07

and help them that's something you guys

1:07:08

are going to participate in okay yes and

1:07:13

that's basically

1:07:15

it all right uh up on the screen uh we

1:07:18

we covered the temporary the next one

1:07:21

I'll take a couple minutes I'm going to

1:07:22

explain this one uh you'll see it's not

1:07:24

listed as 900,000 uh in 2024 budget this

1:07:27

increased to 1.1 million uh what this

1:07:30

budget line does is is used to pay uh

1:07:33

for police external employment uh what

1:07:35

you're not seeing is the revenue side of

1:07:37

this uh and the simple explanation if

1:07:40

you would call it is this is that if we

1:07:42

go out and work external employment um

1:07:46

the invoice get sent by our courtly

1:07:48

aison special events coordinator to the

1:07:50

vendor who we work for and that could be

1:07:53

uh you name it um it could be doing

1:07:56

Riverfront details that that we have an

1:07:58

outside vendor um on the other side of

1:08:01

that is I won't I won't get paid if I'm

1:08:03

working one of those external

1:08:04

Employments until the vendor pays the

1:08:06

city so that budget line should never

1:08:09

really uh fluctuate too much uh

1:08:12

obviously we're going to show the

1:08:13

expenditure side but the revenue side

1:08:15

should go up as well um in addition to

1:08:17

that the city's also going to make a

1:08:19

five% for me showing up in a uniform or

1:08:22

20% for me showing up in the uniform and

1:08:24

we have equipment associated with it so

1:08:27

the city's actually making money off of

1:08:28

that one this budget line is again used

1:08:31

for the

1:08:33

expenditures um Services uh you'll see

1:08:36

the increase to the advertising what we

1:08:39

did with that was there we added uh some

1:08:42

money for law enforcement jobs it went

1:08:44

from 21 to 3,000 we added another $4,000

1:08:47

for community service uh events from CSD

1:08:51

so a $200 increase for Brenda over in

1:08:54

duplication and then one of our biggest

1:08:57

things we found this year when we were

1:08:58

upside down on was postage uh and that's

1:09:01

basically as a result of act four of

1:09:03

2022 which is where we got to send DNA

1:09:05

samples out for testing for every

1:09:07

missing person uh what we were doing is

1:09:09

we were getting an average monthly bill

1:09:10

of $700 from nms Labs um so obviously

1:09:15

$2,000 wasn't going to fund that

1:09:16

properly so that's why you see the

1:09:18

overage on that or the increase for 2025

1:09:21

uh UPS and FedEx increases as well um

1:09:24

the uh maintenance service contract uh

1:09:28

just minor increases for uh annual

1:09:31

increases uh the biggest one on that

1:09:34

um uh we repositioned Cody Pathfinder

1:09:38

from a uh from the uh software portion

1:09:41

of the budget and put it into here

1:09:43

that's why you see an increase in that

1:09:45

uh we added a line in here to uh for

1:09:48

neighborhood dispute settlement uh

1:09:50

mediation services uh for drone support

1:09:53

maintenance and then CBR uh celebrate we

1:09:56

got through a grant which we'll end up

1:09:57

picking that tab up uh hopefully in

1:10:02

2026 but we have to in case it it

1:10:05

doesn't go because the grant was

1:10:06

extended uh in case it doesn't uh

1:10:08

doesn't apply we have to make sure we

1:10:10

have money budgeted for that we also

1:10:12

removed 32,000 from the budget for body

1:10:14

warn cameras which that'll be picked up

1:10:16

through the LL Grant um through

1:10:19

pccd you see you'll see an overall

1:10:22

increase of 15,520 on that again the M

1:10:25

re reason for that would be the

1:10:26

reposition of Cody into uh this budget

1:10:29

line uh Services again uh training

1:10:32

increased uh the main reason for that is

1:10:34

this is a year 2025 would be the year

1:10:37

where we got to do CPR and first aid

1:10:38

training for the bureau there were

1:10:40

$6,000 in there uh promotional testing

1:10:44

which we'll be getting into in um in

1:10:47

July round about uh we looked at 2023 we

1:10:51

paid $8,500 uh for promotional testing

1:10:55

um so what we did was we budgeted 10,000

1:10:57

for that crime analyst training went up

1:11:00

from 4,000 to

1:11:01

111 um and then with the pickup of uh of

1:11:06

sellbrite um what we did was we added a

1:11:08

training in there for Tower dumps and

1:11:10

area searches for the cell phone data

1:11:14

obtained um which is 2650 and then drone

1:11:17

operator license of 175 contracted

1:11:19

services to mean increase on that would

1:11:21

have been the city's portion of the

1:11:23

co-responder salaries um

1:11:26

went up in that one and then memberships

1:11:28

there was minor increases to

1:11:33

memberships uh humane society which we

1:11:36

spoke about last night um we increased

1:11:39

that budget to make sure that we got

1:11:40

enough in there to covered if by chance

1:11:42

we have to start using that heavily and

1:11:44

we can't uh we can't come up with the

1:11:46

alternative areas to take the animals um

1:11:49

but uh we increased that by 20 uh by

1:11:52

25,000 you'll see a decrease in the uh

1:11:55

City Island monthly pass parking passes

1:11:58

for the co-responder and that's mainly

1:11:59

because other arrangements have been

1:12:01

made for them you'll see an increase in

1:12:03

$15,000 for National Night Out and then

1:12:05

the bottom two are uh basically search

1:12:10

software and we're trying to add

1:12:12

licenses for those and mainly for C and

1:12:16

some other stuff all right uh we spoke

1:12:19

about the Humane Society and the

1:12:21

increases to that um again software the

1:12:24

reduction of 25 400 for that and that's

1:12:26

mainly because this is where we pull Cod

1:12:28

at and reposition to the other part of

1:12:30

the

1:12:32

budget uh supplies and increases you'll

1:12:35

see uh the increases right there for

1:12:38

subscription uh I Pro went up on us uh

1:12:41

from 3,000 to 3,300 minor increase we

1:12:44

added power time to that power time is

1:12:46

our scheduling uh so with the main frame

1:12:48

hopefully going away here soon uh this

1:12:52

was our uh scheduling system as well as

1:12:55

um subpoena system um it's hopefully

1:12:58

covered by the Jag Grant but uh we have

1:13:00

to make sure there's money budgeted in

1:13:02

there in case it doesn't get picked up

1:13:03

by the Jag Grant offices thermal paper

1:13:06

increased by almost $1,000 we add an

1:13:09

additional $10,000 for CSD events uh

1:13:12

Hoop It Up major prep barbecues things

1:13:14

of that nature um we added another

1:13:17

almost $2,000 for CSD uh promo and

1:13:20

handout increases and then we added a

1:13:22

line in there of $5,000 for major time

1:13:25

seed uh food water for officers or

1:13:27

whatever we needed to do while we're out

1:13:29

there um personal safety you'll see an

1:13:31

increase on that um the uh less lethal

1:13:35

Munitions went up uh by about 600 bucks

1:13:38

uh we want to purchase what's called

1:13:40

battle boards basically what they are is

1:13:41

what the fire department uses the track

1:13:43

where your personnel are at a major

1:13:45

scene um so we' like to purchase uh at

1:13:49

least two of those uh and then we want

1:13:51

to replace ballistic helmets for the

1:13:53

warrant service unit ,000 the increase

1:13:56

to the um wearing apparel was uh for an

1:14:00

increase in honor guard uniforms from 2

1:14:02

to

1:14:02

4,000 uh the vehicle parts and supplies

1:14:06

the modems uh just the annual increase

1:14:09

and then we got we were able to secure a

1:14:10

truck a couple years ago off what's

1:14:12

called a 1033 program or the uh Federal

1:14:15

Surplus and then we would uh need some

1:14:17

work done to it which we're going to try

1:14:18

to do in house to BMC and uh that $5,000

1:14:22

would go for the work for BMC to that

1:14:28

um budget line uh with office equipment

1:14:31

uh we increased this budget line uh

1:14:33

you'll see reason why we increased it

1:14:34

the increase was for the purchase of

1:14:36

additional chairs for the forensics uh

1:14:39

in addition to we want to start

1:14:40

replacing bicycles um we got donations

1:14:43

for bicycles uh earlier in the year and

1:14:45

we're going to try to start replacing

1:14:47

some of those cubicles for the record

1:14:48

Center $4,000 in five workstations uh

1:14:51

and a locker for the street CRI unit of

1:14:53

23,000

1:14:57

all right if you see at the bottom

1:14:58

that's currently what our street crimes

1:15:00

uh unit office space looks like uh we

1:15:03

were proposing to uh $15,000 for a

1:15:06

general contractor to come in and

1:15:07

remodel that um that and I'm not sure if

1:15:10

you remember but that used to be uh

1:15:12

Night Court when we had our

1:15:14

communication Center here or the uh the

1:15:16

booking side of that um that was uh

1:15:19

since we that's no longer housed here

1:15:21

Street crims units back there but we'

1:15:23

like to REM mod all that space

1:15:25

in the 15,000 we may be able to save

1:15:27

that because we may be able to get da

1:15:28

Baker and crew to actually come in and

1:15:30

do the work for us but we wanted to make

1:15:32

sure that we had something in there to

1:15:35

cover

1:15:36

that uh you had ask about the vehicle

1:15:38

equipment um there's the vehicle

1:15:41

purchases for the uh for 2025 or

1:15:44

proposed for

1:15:45

2025 um police SUVs uh we' like to buy

1:15:49

two of those um K9 trucks current K9

1:15:52

trucks are 2017 Dodge Rams

1:15:55

their past their life expectancy um and

1:15:58

we're hoping to replace one of them uh a

1:16:00

year for the next couple years until

1:16:02

they're uh to they're all replaced we

1:16:04

like to purchase we have a trailer that

1:16:06

the current Dodge truck doesn't pull due

1:16:08

to the motor

1:16:10

size

1:16:14

um due to the current motor size we' be

1:16:17

looking to replace that truck and then

1:16:19

the animal control uh vehicle uh the one

1:16:23

we would be replacing in 20 84 F150 and

1:16:26

again it's well past this life

1:16:28

expectancy um you had to ask about the

1:16:31

uh the increase to the budget um from

1:16:35

from this year to next year um and I'll

1:16:38

give you overall 2021 we had

1:16:41

333,000 assigned to that budget uh 2022

1:16:45

was 264,000 change 2023 was 301 uh and

1:16:50

then last year that budget number was

1:16:52

cut prior to coming in um by the current

1:16:55

business administrator at that point so

1:16:57

uh which allowed us to only purchase

1:16:59

three vehicles at that

1:17:02

time um other Capital

1:17:05

expenses uh we're uh we're looking to

1:17:07

buy two drones and this will be a joint

1:17:10

um purchase with the fire department um

1:17:13

you'll see some of the examples of why

1:17:15

we want those drones uh I think if you

1:17:17

spoke with Chief anine uh and those guys

1:17:20

last night they had the Drone up um at

1:17:22

the fire scenes um

1:17:26

so I mean they become valuable assets uh

1:17:28

for for various reasons

1:17:31

um so uh evidence shelving we'd like the

1:17:34

uh the evidence room was moved from the

1:17:37

basement to the first floor or is in the

1:17:40

process of being moved um we need to and

1:17:43

I'll show you on the next screen here in

1:17:44

a minute is we need to replace those

1:17:46

shelves

1:17:49

uh if you see what it looks like so we

1:17:51

need to replace those shelves which were

1:17:52

in the process between last year and

1:17:54

this year

1:17:55

so all right um it was a total 100,000

1:17:58

we decreased it by 25,000 from 24 to 25

1:18:04

so all right uh the next couple slides

1:18:06

basically are just comparisons you'll

1:18:08

see um in the different budget sets

1:18:11

between 24 and the proposed 25 uh you'll

1:18:15

see where the increases and decreases

1:18:16

are you'll see the overall for this one

1:18:18

for friends paying friends benefits is

1:18:20

down 1.4 million um

1:18:29

next uh communication subtotals you'll

1:18:32

see it went up 1108 and we spoke about

1:18:35

all those uh those different uh subsets

1:18:37

in there um Professional

1:18:40

Services uh the arbitration Services we

1:18:44

I didn't increase but we don't set that

1:18:45

one uh you'll see that there's a slight

1:18:47

increase for the psychological medical

1:18:50

next

1:18:52

SL uh lot of screen or set by uh by the

1:18:56

city uh not by the police department um

1:19:00

but we spoke about all those as

1:19:07

well covered those as

1:19:14

well next

1:19:17

slide right we spoke about the capital

1:19:20

there so again I gave it to you you got

1:19:22

the Powerpoint um I had a question for

1:19:25

you where the maintenance and repairs

1:19:27

that

1:19:29

15,520 20 cent 26 Cents with that be

1:19:33

exactly for the

1:19:34

storage I mean um right here on

1:19:37

maintenance and repair utilities and

1:19:38

maintenance and

1:19:40

repairs

1:19:42

um the increase you have uh the

1:19:45

maintenance contract for the F that's

1:19:47

what you were holding to the side that

1:19:49

you said you may be able to do

1:19:52

yes yes that's that line right yeah

1:20:11

okay uh the grants uh we currently have

1:20:14

uh we currently have four grants and

1:20:17

just to give you a brief update VIP

1:20:18

Grant um we initially got our funding

1:20:21

500,000 which covers the uh gbi

1:20:25

strategy um that Grant was extended

1:20:28

through June 2025 Dolphin County early

1:20:31

this year received a VIP Grant with for

1:20:34

three years to enhance the gbi strategy

1:20:36

we're a pastor recipient of that we got

1:20:38

approximately 480,000 funding and that

1:20:41

cover salaries for project manag support

1:20:43

out Leach coordinator credible message

1:20:44

training which is happening tomorrow um

1:20:48

gang scope software gvi consultant um

1:20:51

and so far uh Adrian has been able to

1:20:54

get um reimbursement uh to the city of

1:20:57

approximately 280 and I spoke about her

1:21:00

earlier she's one of those seven people

1:21:02

that were looking to push her salary up

1:21:04

she's paid for herself with the

1:21:06

reimbursement of the money that she's

1:21:07

coming back on the grads would that be

1:21:11

I'll ask later I'll ask you what what

1:21:13

position that is so that would be the

1:21:15

crime analyst for the Commissioner's

1:21:17

Office the two that was two proposing

1:21:19

that right there's two crime analysts

1:21:21

yeah but I mean she's in and I talked

1:21:23

about her as the grand person or taking

1:21:25

over the grant for the city so the money

1:21:27

you see that's being reimbursed to the

1:21:28

city through these grants she's the one

1:21:30

that's actually Rebecca's busy and I

1:21:33

mean for us to get priority in what

1:21:35

we're doing this is how we decided to I

1:21:37

don't want to say go round it because

1:21:39

Rebecca's involved in it but this is how

1:21:41

we decided to conquer that problem in

1:21:42

order to get us to move forward with

1:21:44

these grants so um local law enforcement

1:21:48

Grant support uh basically you see what

1:21:51

that is um that's funding for the uh

1:21:55

retention bonuses for officers advence

1:21:57

custodian salary technology improvements

1:22:00

uh this one again was um was extended

1:22:03

through 2025 this one we received

1:22:08

um we were able to start purchasing

1:22:11

stuff with the grant earlier this year

1:22:12

even though it's about a year and a half

1:22:14

into it so again this is this is the

1:22:16

stuff that we had to backtrack on in

1:22:18

order to try to get moving so that we

1:22:19

could we could do these things um you

1:22:22

see what it covers uh and again it's

1:22:25

approximately $290 $90,000 it's come

1:22:27

back uh we're we're looking and we were

1:22:30

talking about some of the uh the cameras

1:22:32

and stuff like that the the reallocation

1:22:34

of money into here is where we would be

1:22:37

looking between uh probably between the

1:22:39

LL and the gvip is to move money around

1:22:42

in order to purchase those cameras and

1:22:43

stuff like that so we're we're already

1:22:44

working that which cameras well the CCTV

1:22:48

sorry CCT CCTV cameras and and the

1:22:52

license plate readers we're in the

1:22:53

process of rework that um to to get

1:22:57

those to get that additional equipment

1:22:58

we

1:23:00

need next Slide the gbi gun violence and

1:23:04

investigation prosecution you see the

1:23:06

amount that we were awarded again in

1:23:07

2023 this year covers the overtime for

1:23:10

saturation details porch lights uh

1:23:12

doorbell cameras uh with the

1:23:13

installation and then sellbrite

1:23:17

um right now we're in the process trying

1:23:19

to find a contractor to install the uh

1:23:22

the the lighting within budget we've uh

1:23:25

we put it out for bid twice we can't

1:23:27

find somebody to keep it within budget

1:23:30

uh we just had a meeting on Friday uh

1:23:32

with several contractors so hopefully we

1:23:34

can get uh to uh to a budget that works

1:23:38

with the grant uh we already have the

1:23:40

doorbell cameras of PCH lights uh and

1:23:42

light bulbs so we're ready to move

1:23:44

forward with that we just need the

1:23:46

contractor in order to proceed which

1:23:48

we're hoping by February by first or

1:23:51

second quarter we can move forward with

1:23:53

that project and get those out into the

1:23:55

community how many homes will that cover

1:23:57

uh it's

1:23:58

135 for the cameras and I think we got

1:24:00

close to

1:24:02

200 uh fixtur and light

1:24:06

buls all right um the last one on that

1:24:08

screen would have been the uh the Jag

1:24:11

Grant um so that we're pass the

1:24:13

recipient on this uh we uh we got 5

1:24:18

2,346 for funding and that covered 50%

1:24:22

of the victim witness salary

1:24:24

contribution NIS crime watch uh Power

1:24:27

time Planet uh and then one Coba

1:24:31

license um operational highlights I

1:24:34

spoke about the gvi that we start moving

1:24:36

with that stuff I spoke about the LL

1:24:39

which we're able to uh purchase a backup

1:24:42

one with the gvip we able to get

1:24:44

sellbrite um we able to buy the stuff

1:24:46

for uh PCH lights and doorbell cameras

1:24:50

and then um we got the funding extended

1:24:52

to the end of 2025 the LL again we were

1:24:56

able to buy Pharaoh um uh retention

1:24:59

bonuses and then uh we were able to

1:25:02

throw in some uh saturation details and

1:25:05

some other stuff so those two grants uh

1:25:07

getting them moving has actually has

1:25:10

helped um so that's an operational

1:25:13

highlight we started two committees we

1:25:15

have an officer Wellness committee um

1:25:17

which basically is peer-to PE counseling

1:25:19

so there's officers that we have in

1:25:21

these groups uh we have a major incident

1:25:23

or something or if they're if they need

1:25:25

additional assistance uh we're able to

1:25:27

go to this this Core group of people and

1:25:29

they're able to address some of those

1:25:30

needs or at least try to get them

1:25:32

pointed in the right direction they deal

1:25:34

with anything from mental health to uh

1:25:36

to financial

1:25:38

to you name it so we're in the process

1:25:41

of bringing that up uh recruiting

1:25:43

committee we started that try to uh to

1:25:46

try to get uh more candidates and again

1:25:49

what I included into your packet uh was

1:25:51

obviously your poker chip you know

1:25:53

somebody a her job obviously we're hard

1:25:57

um I gave you again the the postcard on

1:26:01

the back side of the postcard that tells

1:26:02

you how to be a police officer uh and

1:26:05

again each one of them has the uh the QR

1:26:08

code um and they can call me directly

1:26:11

I'll be more than happy to talk to any

1:26:12

of

1:26:13

them would the is there any room for the

1:26:18

registration fee to be waved because

1:26:20

that can be issue sometimes yeah we've

1:26:22

done that so I mean that's

1:26:25

we've done it so it's usually somebody

1:26:27

that has taken a test and not

1:26:30

successfully completed we wave those

1:26:31

feeds to try to get them back up in the

1:26:33

door um and then if somebody's got some

1:26:35

sort of hardship all they got is let us

1:26:36

know we can weigh those so yeah that's

1:26:39

not a problem we need bodies we need

1:26:42

qualified bodies so um again we re uh

1:26:47

back to our operational highlights re

1:26:48

established the mountain bike unit uh

1:26:50

and I could go into great length and a

1:26:52

lot of this I'm trying to save you some

1:26:54

time

1:26:54

um but we were able to get was three

1:26:58

bikes

1:26:59

right so it was three bikes that we got

1:27:01

off Grant uh we refers a couple of the

1:27:03

older ones and then uh we got some

1:27:05

additional operators trained they come

1:27:07

in very handy bicycles mountain bikes so

1:27:13

um yeah we uh we able to get them

1:27:15

retrained they come handy for the

1:27:17

election details and the uh the

1:27:18

riverfront details and some of the other

1:27:20

details we run they're able to get those

1:27:22

around so it's become it's becoming

1:27:23

pretty good uh detail nice to see the

1:27:26

bikes back out rolling around uh crime

1:27:28

watch we were able to move that forward

1:27:29

to now we got public facing side can now

1:27:32

see uh crime mapping um through uh

1:27:35

through crime watch um that's all live

1:27:38

uh the gbi team um and we we spoke about

1:27:42

that a couple times but uh they they did

1:27:44

some sight to site visits uh Miami Dade

1:27:47

um and then down in York and then we

1:27:49

started the one stops and then we're

1:27:51

starting to move towards um they're

1:27:53

actually in the schools so I mean we

1:27:55

starting to move uh gain some traction

1:27:57

with that program uh and then the CSA

1:28:00

program and I think that Captain wer has

1:28:02

actually uh gave you the uh give you a

1:28:05

hand out for that one um they did a lot

1:28:08

of events in the course of 20124 I can

1:28:11

certainly read those for you if you'd

1:28:12

like me to um there's a there's a lot of

1:28:16

them from Community barbecues to um you

1:28:19

name it they were directing traffic they

1:28:20

were in schools uh I think they got now

1:28:24

established to the point where uh when

1:28:26

they got issues or problems that someone

1:28:29

calls them directly uh to try to get

1:28:31

some sort of resolution to to whatever

1:28:33

they may doing um so they've become a

1:28:36

valuable part of what we're doing and

1:28:37

it's it's actually helped

1:28:40

us um next slide would be our 2024 goals

1:28:45

uh our 2024

1:28:49

goals you see listed on the screen um

1:28:52

some of those goals we were successful

1:28:54

on others uh not so much um the recruit

1:28:59

and ret train or retain um the

1:29:02

recruiting we're able to get a couple in

1:29:04

at a time the retention part is where

1:29:06

where we uh where we don't have any luck

1:29:09

um and I'll tell you I mentioned those

1:29:11

eight um eight people that had left with

1:29:13

under five years experience um we hired

1:29:16

two in January and put them to the

1:29:19

academy they graduated in July by August

1:29:22

they had already been picked up and

1:29:23

moved on to another the department so

1:29:25

that's how that's how rapidly people are

1:29:27

moving through through

1:29:30

here

1:29:33

um oh I was going to say um my apologies

1:29:37

before you and um commissioner Carter

1:29:39

head out um we have a resident here that

1:29:42

wanted to address uh number six if you

1:29:44

had a minute uh we could speak in the

1:29:46

hallway perhaps okay thank

1:29:51

you um currently we have four in the

1:29:54

academy um so they're set to graduate

1:29:57

later this month and then we opened up

1:29:59

uh we'll send three and this is a

1:30:01

recruiting side we'll send three to the

1:30:03

academy in um which in January which I

1:30:06

spoke about uh recruitment efforts are

1:30:08

going on are ongoing so I think we

1:30:10

succeeded at least in half of that right

1:30:12

now cease operation the utilization of

1:30:15

the Metro System um we've done

1:30:18

everything we could possibly do on on

1:30:19

the bureau side we've moved all reports

1:30:21

the only thing we have left to do would

1:30:23

be to move the roll side out uh so I'd

1:30:25

say that we we were successful in that

1:30:28

one um The increased uh provide

1:30:32

increased police information to Citizens

1:30:34

um second quarter of this year we went

1:30:37

live with the the crime mapy feature um

1:30:40

so that's out there on crime watch the

1:30:41

remodel of the police Lobby hopefully

1:30:43

that'll be done by the second

1:30:46

quarter of

1:30:48

2025 um maintain a homicide clearance

1:30:51

rate 22 2022 National average is 52% so

1:30:55

far this year we're at

1:30:58

68% um which is 15 out of

1:31:01

22 uh which leads me into the next one

1:31:04

reduce gun violence uh I don't think we

1:31:06

did so well this year um we of the and

1:31:10

we'll continue to work on that above the

1:31:12

22 homicides that we have 17 involved

1:31:14

Firearms so and if we can work on

1:31:16

increasing technology such as the

1:31:18

cameras lprs um and and the gvi strategy

1:31:22

I think that's going to help

1:31:24

uh get to where we need to go with that

1:31:26

um and then the uh the integration of

1:31:29

the csas into the city um and again I

1:31:32

mean I gave you a list I can certainly

1:31:34

read it but for time sake I'm gonna not

1:31:36

go through the the the lengthy part of

1:31:39

that um the csas have handled 1,137

1:31:42

calls as of December 4th and that's

1:31:45

calls ranging from uh you name it that

1:31:48

they were on so you see our 2025 goals

1:31:53

um

1:31:54

what we intend on doing um obviously a

1:31:57

lot of these look similar but we're

1:31:59

going to meet and we're going to develop

1:32:00

a five-year strategic plan which will

1:32:03

have the metrics to it um and then

1:32:06

actually we're going to end up

1:32:07

publishing that we're also going to do

1:32:08

that with the gvi strategy so that you

1:32:10

would have a a uh a document or we would

1:32:14

have a document with the metrics to see

1:32:15

if we achieve that or not so that's

1:32:17

that's what's coming up in 2025 but you

1:32:19

see our 2025 goals that we have

1:32:24

um as far as the questions go all right

1:32:29

I think that uh in budget set one or

1:32:33

budget questions one the significant

1:32:35

budget increases uh I explained that

1:32:37

through the slides through the various

1:32:38

slides uh departmental diversity uh we

1:32:42

covered all that uh slide four and five

1:32:45

vacancies was covered on the PowerPoint

1:32:48

presentation um we covered the uh Grant

1:32:53

update uh special

1:32:56

projects uh arpa projects we don't have

1:32:59

anything specifically arpa funded

1:33:01

although the pccd grants for LL and gbi

1:33:04

are funded through arpa

1:33:06

funds so uh new positions we covered

1:33:09

that uh the anticipated impact of the

1:33:12

support and Outreach coordinator uh

1:33:14

shifting this position to a full-time uh

1:33:16

will enhance the bureau's uh the bureau

1:33:18

to expand the gbi strategy by enhancing

1:33:21

collaborating uh collaboration between

1:33:23

the project manager credible Messengers

1:33:25

uh local Partners this position is

1:33:27

primarily responsible for establishing

1:33:29

nurturing maintaining partnership with

1:33:31

agencies that can assist and redirecting

1:33:33

and supporting positive behaviors and

1:33:35

I've also included a job description for

1:33:36

you for that one uh the does it uh does

1:33:40

it the

1:33:41

2025 budget align with

1:33:44

2024 um if you take a look at it the

1:33:46

current budget shows increases in

1:33:48

several smart projects inflation annual

1:33:50

increases by vendors current year-to

1:33:52

date totals reflected approxim 60 60% of

1:33:54

the budget is expended so far uh what

1:33:57

this does not account for is invoices

1:33:58

that have not cleared um and there are

1:34:01

budget lines in there uh that were added

1:34:03

to cover uh to cover things we uh we

1:34:06

received through grants several of these

1:34:08

budget lines are not set by by The

1:34:10

Bureau and are showing either low or

1:34:12

high percentages of budget amount used

1:34:14

thus far additionally several uh

1:34:17

purchases were budgeted for 2024 which

1:34:19

were not made due to extremely high cost

1:34:21

that were put off till

1:34:22

2025 uh depending on the pricing we'll

1:34:25

take a look at it at that we try to be

1:34:27

mindful of what we're doing when it

1:34:30

comes to spending money uh and then

1:34:32

we're able to reuse some existing items

1:34:34

in order to continue to decrease um

1:34:37

decrease spending uh some of the biggest

1:34:39

areas that we had increases in budgets

1:34:41

would be for the community related

1:34:43

events uh National Night Out uh and some

1:34:46

other events that we we budget in

1:34:48

there um rolls exceeding 2% covered that

1:34:53

um the departmental highlights we had

1:34:55

those up

1:35:02

there bear with me while get to the next

1:35:05

one um performance metrics

1:35:09

um uh so we talked about that again with

1:35:12

the goals for 2024 and then

1:35:15

2025

1:35:20

uh uh for the police department on

1:35:22

budget set one specifically uh we talked

1:35:25

about the the vehicle purchases which I

1:35:27

showed you where the four or the five

1:35:29

vehicles we're looking to replace uh

1:35:31

again I gave you the the budget between

1:35:33

21 and

1:35:35

20 four or five um Mr McCutchen was kind

1:35:39

enough to give us the uh explanation for

1:35:41

the police

1:35:43

pension

1:35:45

um so that would have been all budget

1:35:47

one set questions and then budget two

1:35:50

set um we asked about about the uh the

1:35:54

compliment for the the police department

1:35:57

uh there's 79 police officers 10

1:36:00

corporals 11 sergeants three lieutenants

1:36:02

four forensics investigators 17

1:36:03

detectives four captains one Deputy

1:36:05

Chief and a

1:36:06

commissioner um which was covered on

1:36:09

Slide Five uh we covered the bilingual

1:36:12

uh Community Services uh a program being

1:36:15

evaluated yes every program we have is

1:36:18

evaluated uh it could be every person

1:36:20

unit platoon division evaluated several

1:36:23

times a year and usually after uh

1:36:25

incidents uh for better performance uh a

1:36:28

Personnel task Duty an effort to

1:36:30

increase productivity this happens

1:36:32

regular and informal uh basis after

1:36:35

events uh after Action

1:36:37

reviews uh goals for the csas which I

1:36:41

listed there again I mean I can go back

1:36:42

through those if you would

1:36:48

like they they they covered a lot and

1:36:51

it's I mean it it's if you look at what

1:36:54

they've done over the course of this

1:36:57

year

1:36:59

yeah well that no uh what I gave you

1:37:03

guys is what you asked me for last night

1:37:06

when you said that it would be helpful

1:37:07

to see some of the things that they do

1:37:10

and I was like okay I got you so I

1:37:12

brought that down for all of you so and

1:37:14

what it is is a just a snapshot on

1:37:17

multiple different things that they

1:37:19

handle that they handle throughout the

1:37:21

year that they actually deal with each

1:37:23

and every day throughout the course of

1:37:26

you know throughout the course of a

1:37:27

month 365 days out of the year but I

1:37:29

took you what I wanted to show you uh I

1:37:32

took you from January all the way up

1:37:35

until today just to give you a snapshot

1:37:38

all these things and there's just

1:37:40

something it's a snapshot of everything

1:37:41

in there a little bit of this a little

1:37:43

bit of that so you start to get a grasp

1:37:46

as to what they're doing for this

1:37:48

community and and how they're

1:37:50

interacting and what their roles

1:37:52

actually are

1:38:01

um so you see the list of events that

1:38:03

they were they attended uh the goals for

1:38:05

2025 for the csas um continue to broaden

1:38:09

the reach of the csas to all aspects

1:38:11

this includes adding two csas to the gvi

1:38:14

credible Messengers uh continue to build

1:38:16

stronger Partnerships relations with hsd

1:38:19

uh the school district uh getting the

1:38:21

CSA uh sponsor mentorship program up

1:38:24

implemented in the school district

1:38:25

having the CSA continue fostering

1:38:27

relations relationships with the

1:38:29

community identifying partners and

1:38:30

strategies uh we took care of hiring the

1:38:32

new community relations director which

1:38:34

will bring her down once we uh she gets

1:38:36

her wheels up underneath there so to

1:38:38

speak uh she gets in the door and she

1:38:40

gets acclimated so that uh so that you

1:38:42

can see who she is um uh Community

1:38:46

continuing CSA sponsored community

1:38:49

barbecue events basketball flag football

1:38:51

fishing trips partnership with parks and

1:38:54

wrecks engagements uh with church

1:38:56

nonprofit organizations uh provide

1:38:58

excellent resources to Citizens uh we

1:39:00

talked about the filling of the parking

1:39:01

enforcement one vacancy and then as well

1:39:04

as the 10 police officer training

1:39:10

positions that's all that I

1:39:13

have open to any

1:39:16

questions and sorry I was so

1:39:19

longwinded no worries thank you for the

1:39:21

thorough presentation uh and for making

1:39:23

make sure you answered all the questions

1:39:24

that we did ask beforehand and getting

1:39:26

to us getting them to us in writing as

1:39:28

well as a PowerPoint it's appreciated

1:39:30

because it's it's easier for us to

1:39:32

follow along when we have those options

1:39:34

at the moment I don't have any questions

1:39:36

I'm going to send it back to our Public

1:39:38

Safety chair uh with councilman Jones

1:39:41

thank you um again thank you for the the

1:39:44

presentation it was another thorough one

1:39:47

however the question that I forgot to

1:39:48

submit to you as I'm looking at this

1:39:50

right and I'm not trying to stump you

1:39:52

but I do want to give an explanation for

1:39:55

um our listeners or viewers and

1:39:57

everything but um when we look at these

1:40:00

preditions and the proposed civilian um

1:40:03

management increases when we're talking

1:40:05

about um uh the 4% these weren't

1:40:09

included in the 4% this is the 2%

1:40:11

increas is am I correct you got it

1:40:19

up oh it should be I can't tell you

1:40:21

which SL um yeah yep

1:40:26

right yes they were not included in the

1:40:28

4% okay so 2% um only thing that I I see

1:40:33

that's missing is like what with their

1:40:37

can I say I don't want to say starting

1:40:39

salary yeah the base and

1:40:43

and 2024 salary and the reason why I act

1:40:47

again because you know um when I looked

1:40:49

up accreditation U manager about 45k

1:40:53

per year where' you look it up at online

1:40:57

for Pennsylvania yeah but what website

1:40:59

did you

1:41:01

use um and just kind of to answer your

1:41:04

questions I didn't go through and um all

1:41:06

of the positions are about $133,000

1:41:09

increase except for the cont

1:41:10

confidential secretary which I believe

1:41:11

was about $4,000

1:41:14

increase and it's just a it's just a

1:41:16

Google search like uh government

1:41:18

salaries okay and um it just shows that

1:41:22

like 45 but and and and again the only

1:41:24

reason why I'm asking because all of

1:41:26

these other proposed increases are the

1:41:29

same amount of

1:41:31

money for 70 70 70 70 right so

1:41:35

somebody's position is I will tell you

1:41:39

that those proposed salary increases are

1:41:41

less than one police officer salary so

1:41:43

across the board and if I looked at

1:41:46

their jobs and what they're currently

1:41:47

doing as compared to what they were

1:41:49

hired to do so if I look at the accredit

1:41:52

accreditation manager and I go okay so

1:41:54

they take care of all the accreditation

1:41:56

they do the research they make sure we

1:41:57

got policy they make sure we're we're

1:41:59

covered with everything and look at what

1:42:01

how that job has blossomed them to what

1:42:03

they're currently doing those those jobs

1:42:05

could very easily be two and three

1:42:07

positions that we have that we would

1:42:09

have to cover in the budget in order to

1:42:10

fill those if we're looking at two and

1:42:12

three positions at even a $50,000 or a

1:42:15

$440,000 pay rate you're still saving

1:42:18

money by the 70,000 as opposed to the 80

1:42:21

to 100,000 that you be spending on that

1:42:24

and that's that's sort of kind of what

1:42:25

we looked at is is the the additional

1:42:27

job duties that were laid into or placed

1:42:29

into that position uh again I mean the

1:42:32

the accreditation manager she's liaison

1:42:34

with the it so we got it related issues

1:42:36

she's dealing with that um if uh if the

1:42:40

RMS manager who's been out for a while

1:42:42

she's dealing with that in addition to

1:42:44

accreditation uh she's managing uh nver

1:42:47

UCR stuff uh which actually saves this

1:42:50

money um if I go down to the court the

1:42:53

aison special events coordinator uh

1:42:55

she's again doing multiple jobs she's a

1:42:57

notary which saves US money on that uh

1:43:00

she's also uh in addition to our normal

1:43:03

job I mean I could go on so basically

1:43:05

that that's all I was trying to get to

1:43:07

to come out um the reasoning for the

1:43:10

increase in in some of the roles that

1:43:11

they may be playing that can fill other

1:43:14

holes um you know within the department

1:43:16

I know some people are quadruple tasking

1:43:19

so and that's I mean that's exactly

1:43:21

right that's what they're doing and what

1:43:22

they do and and I can tell you

1:43:26

that two of those positions on that list

1:43:28

right there were current were previously

1:43:30

occupied by police officers so what the

1:43:32

what these uh what these spots do is

1:43:34

allow us to keep the police on the

1:43:36

street so and and again I mean as we get

1:43:39

these different jobs uh in for that we

1:43:42

need accomplish recruiting um uh we go

1:43:46

through grants I mean someone has to do

1:43:49

that and it's either going to be a

1:43:50

police officer civilian that group that

1:43:53

has actually or those positions have

1:43:54

actually assumed those duties and I mean

1:43:57

you're looking at each one of those

1:43:59

having two and three different job uh

1:44:03

jobs in them and again that's where

1:44:05

you're getting the cost setting measure

1:44:06

because I don't have we don't have to

1:44:08

add those into the budget as additional

1:44:10

positions which again and create those

1:44:12

additional salaries so connected okay

1:44:14

yeah I excuse me um my other questions

1:44:18

were answered I asked them pretty early

1:44:20

on um why has the department and stop

1:44:23

supporting the school district you

1:44:25

explained that and and also the 4%

1:44:28

raises so um I will pass it back to vice

1:44:32

president

1:44:33

green thank you councilman Rodriguez do

1:44:35

you have any questions or comments thank

1:44:37

you madam chair uh thank you gentlemen

1:44:39

for joining us this evening um one of

1:44:42

the things I did not see in this budget

1:44:44

was uh any line item for Chapel is he

1:44:47

still involved at all the chaplain yeah

1:44:49

yes yes and that's that that's already

1:44:52

taken care of that's already it's in

1:44:53

there yes and it's also Grant funded so

1:44:55

we get that reimbursed as well okay and

1:44:57

then um I understand how Miss vulmer may

1:45:00

be a bit overworked working on grants um

1:45:04

I just if there's some way we could work

1:45:06

out getting her more assistance this way

1:45:09

we could free up some of you guys'

1:45:10

assistance and other director heads

1:45:12

assistance because doubling the work

1:45:14

sometimes just seems a bit redundant and

1:45:16

um anyway we could just you know get the

1:45:18

taxpaying citizens more for their buck

1:45:20

that would be you know Buy in the sky um

1:45:22

then also you had alluded to the

1:45:24

fiveyear minimum for the training did we

1:45:26

come up cuz if you get the you know we

1:45:28

got some of the best training in the

1:45:30

area Carter can tell you that um and

1:45:33

they kind of nitpick they can't wait for

1:45:35

for you guys to come out of the whole

1:45:37

department and just nitpick them and

1:45:39

take them other places but that comes to

1:45:41

a cost with the city so if they leave

1:45:43

before the fiveyear requirement we're

1:45:45

just out of those funds do we develop a

1:45:47

mechanism at all where we can go after

1:45:49

those funds that's way we could recoup

1:45:50

at all we can let the law answer

1:45:59

that yeah they currently is uh through I

1:46:02

think it's m mopc where if they leave

1:46:06

before them we can apply for

1:46:08

reimbursement um

1:46:10

for I believe a portion of the money

1:46:13

that they would

1:46:14

have um owed the cost of the training so

1:46:18

that is something that we will start to

1:46:20

do more um as it be I wasn't aware that

1:46:25

there was that many but we will start to

1:46:27

look that reimbursement accumulate some

1:46:29

substantial money for the city so yeah

1:46:31

absolutely

1:46:33

um and then the current Department

1:46:36

situation commissioner Carter how do you

1:46:38

feel um your crew is working with the

1:46:41

new Renovations and having like the Bell

1:46:43

because I remember one time I came down

1:46:45

and it was just hard getting someone to

1:46:47

respond when I came down with a resident

1:46:49

is everything moving along a bit easier

1:46:51

now as things have transitioned while

1:46:53

Renovations taking place yes we looked

1:46:55

at things you pointed out things to us

1:46:57

and so we corrected those errors and so

1:46:59

now you know we're taking care of what

1:47:01

we need to be Tak taken care of awesome

1:47:02

thank you commissioner no further

1:47:04

questions thank you very much

1:47:06

councilwoman Ross thank you vice

1:47:08

president green thank you for being here

1:47:10

tonight um my questions were answered

1:47:13

through the presentation also I was

1:47:15

wondering why the the raise had been so

1:47:18

High um what uh kind of metrics or

1:47:22

reasoning was behind and you just

1:47:23

explained it so thank you that's it for

1:47:26

me thank you very much president

1:47:29

Bowers thank you um I have two questions

1:47:32

related to the

1:47:33

csas and then one question related to

1:47:38

the um pay raise justification

1:47:41

information that was shared so I'll

1:47:43

start with the csas um I I see a long

1:47:47

list of events and community activities

1:47:51

but do we have a total number of events

1:47:54

that the csas participated in for the

1:47:57

2024 year I can get you that number I

1:48:01

was giving you like the play byplay of

1:48:04

everything that they were doing and

1:48:05

there was a few additional things that

1:48:07

was left off the list that's uh kind of

1:48:10

City sponsored and whatnot that they

1:48:12

were doing but if you want to know the

1:48:13

complete number I can get that to you

1:48:16

yes I'm just curious and then it was

1:48:19

mentioned that two additional csas would

1:48:23

become credible Messengers or can you

1:48:26

explain that or clarify yes ma'am it's

1:48:28

not two additional csas out of the seven

1:48:30

csas that I have two of them have that

1:48:34

we have identified as being excellent uh

1:48:37

credible Messengers for the gvi who I

1:48:40

personally talked to and said yes we

1:48:42

will uh also assist the gvi team and we

1:48:47

will go to the credible messenger

1:48:48

training these are two individuals that

1:48:51

have been out in the streets in the

1:48:52

Community talking to people anyway um

1:48:57

just if it's if it's nothing more than

1:48:59

just a an ear to listen to them and to

1:49:03

offer up any sort of suggestions or

1:49:05

opportunities they've even gone as far

1:49:07

as uh start making contacts to get them

1:49:10

things that they need and sharing life

1:49:12

experiences so it's two existing csas

1:49:16

okay that are going to be going through

1:49:18

the credible messenger training that are

1:49:20

a part of our gvi

1:49:23

okay thank you for clarifying um and

1:49:25

then my question regarding the pay raise

1:49:28

justifications um thank you for the

1:49:30

information I just want to make sure

1:49:33

that

1:49:36

um it's not sort of like self-reporting

1:49:39

or self-identifying of what these

1:49:42

individuals are doing because you

1:49:44

provided a clear uh job description for

1:49:48

the gvi support and Outreach coordinator

1:49:51

are there job

1:49:53

descriptions I guess that have been

1:49:55

updated to reflect some of these other

1:49:57

duties that um the employees have been

1:50:01

taking on so yes over the course of time

1:50:04

um those jobs have been updated through

1:50:07

the course of their job descriptions

1:50:08

have been updated and every year when we

1:50:10

do the evaluations is when those when

1:50:12

those job descriptions get updated if we

1:50:14

take the original one for each one of

1:50:16

those positions you'll see over the

1:50:17

course of time that those individuals

1:50:19

have been here uh from the accreditation

1:50:21

manator down to the confidential

1:50:24

secretary to uh to the deputy chief

1:50:26

you'll see that job description expand

1:50:29

uh as those as those uh additional

1:50:31

duties come about and we try to find a

1:50:34

place for for the work to get

1:50:36

accomplished so uh the yes those those

1:50:40

job duties have been updated the only

1:50:41

one I would tell you that's not been

1:50:43

updated to reflect the current stuff

1:50:45

because we just um over the course of

1:50:47

this year would be the uh crime the

1:50:49

crime analyst for we we now have our

1:50:52

house in the uh the commissioner's

1:50:53

office that has not been updated because

1:50:56

she's uh currently doing the grand stuff

1:50:58

and that started this year so that will

1:51:00

be updated as we go through this and i'

1:51:03

probably be looking to as a title change

1:51:04

to it to make it something more

1:51:06

compatible than than a crime analyst

1:51:08

something that that sort of kind of fits

1:51:10

what she currently does would you then

1:51:13

be looking to replace and add an a

1:51:16

second crime analyst as well or just

1:51:19

keep her in a different role she would

1:51:22

just she be retitled she would still

1:51:23

have the duties as a crime analyst okay

1:51:25

and then it would incorporate the other

1:51:27

stuff that she's doing uh that uh to

1:51:30

make it more realistic as far as title

1:51:32

goes because if you look at if you look

1:51:33

at a title of crime analyst you're

1:51:35

thinking crime analyst and you're not

1:51:36

thinking Grant manager not thinking um

1:51:39

some of the other duties that she does

1:51:41

uh so it to bring the title

1:51:44

to

1:51:46

better look at what what she does or

1:51:48

better explain what she does that's

1:51:50

probably what we're looking to do with

1:51:51

that okay well if you could please share

1:51:54

the updated formal job descriptions for

1:51:58

all of the employees okay that will

1:52:05

um potentially receive an increase I'm

1:52:08

not sure how that will go but the

1:52:09

assistant assistant to the commissioner

1:52:12

the police substation manager uh the

1:52:15

accreditation manager the court liaison

1:52:18

special events coordinator the both of

1:52:21

the crime analysts the confidential

1:52:23

secretary to the deputy chief all right

1:52:27

I will send those to you okay thank you

1:52:29

y thank you thank you councilwoman Davis

1:52:33

thank you vice president green good

1:52:35

evening um gentlemen and thank you for

1:52:37

being here thank you for the thorough

1:52:39

report I just have two quick questions

1:52:43

are there any new incentives for

1:52:46

retention or could there be some type of

1:52:49

contractual commitment for the new

1:52:52

officer

1:52:53

so the the best thing that we have at

1:52:55

this point because they're currently

1:52:56

under contract uh the best thing that we

1:52:59

we are able to do this year is retention

1:53:01

bonuses and you see how that worked uh

1:53:04

so um next year is a contract year uh so

1:53:09

we we've been in talks or we I'm

1:53:13

sorry CDA yeah Collective barain oh yeah

1:53:17

yeah yeah sorry acronyms

1:53:20

right all right but but uh but no I mean

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that's where we'll get into those

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contract negotiations uh with the fop um

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there's ideas passed around I mean we're

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trying to do what we can to work within

1:53:32

the uh the current contract um that we

1:53:34

can accommodate some of the uh some of

1:53:37

this

1:53:38

stuff thank you that's it

1:53:40

for thank you councilwoman

1:53:44

Daniels thank you uh I do have I guess

1:53:47

one or two questions here um not too

1:53:49

much for you uh the first is about the

1:53:51

crossing guard guards um was this a

1:53:54

decision that the city made not to renew

1:53:56

the crossing guard contract or was it

1:53:57

more of a school district or it just

1:53:59

kind of fell through the cracks it was

1:54:00

more of a school district uh we took on

1:54:04

a program a pilot program with the

1:54:07

school district and um so then after you

1:54:09

know we trained them up and what have

1:54:11

you know they said that they would take

1:54:14

it over but the um the superintendent

1:54:18

left and so he had the new guy holding

1:54:21

the bag without talking to him explain

1:54:23

at the program to him but it was the

1:54:26

school district's um choice to to pull

1:54:29

out okay thank you I just wanted to make

1:54:31

for sure that was on the record for

1:54:33

residents who um I'm sure will have some

1:54:35

questions about it uh because it was a

1:54:37

it was a big thing and a lot of

1:54:38

residents were really happy um that they

1:54:40

had the increase in crossing guards for

1:54:42

kids uh on their way to school it made

1:54:44

them feel a lot more comfortable I know

1:54:45

it made me feel more comfortable uh and

1:54:47

then the second is more of a comment not

1:54:49

a question um as far as the csas um I

1:54:53

definitely have seen them more this year

1:54:54

so I'm glad to see that um but I do

1:54:57

remember when the program first started

1:54:59

uh they were not supposed to be police

1:55:00

officers and I know they're not police

1:55:02

officers but they're starting to look

1:55:03

more and more like police officers when

1:55:06

you see them like they look like police

1:55:08

officers um and so I think that's

1:55:10

something that we might need to take a

1:55:12

look at uh to kind of tone that down a

1:55:13

little bit we're already addressing that

1:55:15

issue we trying to change their uniforms

1:55:18

because that was one of the things that

1:55:19

and I scratched my head to this day is

1:55:21

to why that come out the way it was um

1:55:24

but we're changing their uniforms over

1:55:26

so they they look uh look less like us

1:55:30

um and and have their own look to them

1:55:33

okay I'm definitely glad to hear that

1:55:34

because every time I see them I'm like I

1:55:36

know you're not a police officer but if

1:55:38

I didn't know I wouldn't know so I'm I'm

1:55:40

glad to hear that because it also could

1:55:42

be a safety issue because they are not

1:55:43

trained uh for those situations and if

1:55:46

someone who is committing a crime sees

1:55:48

them um they might react as if they are

1:55:51

a police officer so glad to hear that so

1:55:53

we actually did change uh their uniforms

1:55:55

we're just waiting for the rest of them

1:55:56

to come in so if you were to see Mr Khan

1:55:59

he has his full uniform on so that is

1:56:02

the new look if you ever if you ever see

1:56:04

him out and about Mr

1:56:06

Khan if you can send us a photo that'd

1:56:08

be great too

1:56:10

yeah yeah um I did see him out in the

1:56:14

community at a ribbon cutting ceremony

1:56:18

and the first thing I looked I looked to

1:56:20

see if they had a gun has a uniform just

1:56:23

like your uniform I know so that was one

1:56:26

of the things that uh we had actually

1:56:28

when I was a captain we had started

1:56:29

talking about sort of it it's got to go

1:56:32

a different direction because you're

1:56:33

absolutely right it becomes a safety

1:56:35

issue for them um and it sort of kind of

1:56:39

helps with the community on the other

1:56:42

side thank you very much are there any

1:56:44

other questions or comments for the

1:56:45

Bureau of police regarding their budget

1:56:47

or anything since they're

1:56:50

here seeing none thank you thank you

1:56:52

gentlemen for being here tonight uh

1:56:53

thank you for the work that you doing in

1:56:54

your in our community we appreciate it

1:56:56

thank you thank you all

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Council oh wait a minute you forgot your

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minute 7even minute recess just uh to

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use the restroom and then we will

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reconvene with the Bureau of

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codes if you would take the time to

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introduce yourself give us an overview

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of your department your presentation and

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then we'll open up to questions good

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evening city council Ann Montgomery code

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administrator the department over

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overview is the same uh slide that I

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would send for the quarterly meetings uh

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that we used to have the responsible for

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enforcing building construction

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electrical standards Plumbing Health

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sanitation and Property Maintenance

2:10:45

codes for both residential and

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Commercial structures performs plan

2:10:50

reviews on all conr construction

2:10:51

projects and process for all buyers

2:10:53

notification and flood zone

2:10:55

applications processes all permits

2:10:58

relating to building construction

2:10:59

electrical and plumbing work and

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assisting zoning compliance issue

2:11:04

licenses for electricians plumbers

2:11:06

rooming houses manage the residential

2:11:09

rental registration and rooming house

2:11:11

process interacts with the public daily

2:11:13

including complaints property owners and

2:11:18

contractors building and plumbing

2:11:20

inspection

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perform Progressive inspections

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enforcing building codes on new

2:11:26

construction Rehabilitation and

2:11:28

alteration projects for both residential

2:11:30

and Commercial properties all inspectors

2:11:33

enforce code violations inside and

2:11:35

outside of existing structures and

2:11:38

vacant Lots including but not limited to

2:11:41

high grass snow

2:11:42

sanitation Plumbing Heating electrical

2:11:46

vectors and structural violations using

2:11:48

the international property maintenance

2:11:51

code code and amendments enforcing

2:11:53

non-compliance of these violations using

2:11:56

citations processed through the district

2:11:58

justice court process as

2:12:01

needed Health office inspects food

2:12:04

establishments Street vendors dwellings

2:12:06

and Commercial places for compliance

2:12:08

with state laws advises and trains food

2:12:12

establishments maintains database and

2:12:14

food purveyors inter interprets

2:12:18

laboratory res

2:12:20

results presents cases for the

2:12:22

Commonwealth courts inspects for lead

2:12:24

abatement educates and promotes Public

2:12:26

Health Partners and health care

2:12:32

providers significant budget

2:12:35

changes we have a total of an additional

2:12:39

10,000 on the whole

2:12:41

budget uh so the miscellaneous

2:12:45

contracted Services is something new we

2:12:48

want to fund warrants to be served when

2:12:50

needed

2:12:53

for the supplies educational we added

2:12:55

$4,000 this is to fund training testing

2:12:58

and

2:13:00

classes tools and Hardware we added

2:13:03

$7,000 the purpose is to fund and

2:13:06

handheld handheld ticketing machines for

2:13:10

the uh cars that are parked on uh

2:13:14

Lots then we lowered the office

2:13:17

equipment to uh $55,000

2:13:26

less departmental

2:13:29

diversity we do have one newer employee

2:13:33

who's not fully fluent in Spanish but is

2:13:36

working at the front counter and helps

2:13:39

with the public and uh it is a value to

2:13:43

the public you know making them more

2:13:45

comfortable to uh learn the process

2:13:58

we have one vacant code officer position

2:14:02

uh we will start to interview in the

2:14:04

first quarter of

2:14:05

2025 and we have another code officer uh

2:14:09

position that if approved the new uh

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position of electrical

2:14:15

inspector that would be a code officer

2:14:17

moving into that

2:14:19

position um

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that would give

2:14:23

another uh vacancy to

2:14:27

the to the

2:14:30

office grants and special projects we

2:14:32

have a brick Grant out with

2:14:35

FEMA that possibly could be approved uh

2:14:39

and issued in

2:14:41

2025

2:14:43

2025 uh the time frame has not been

2:14:46

validated but it would be for a maximum

2:14:49

of 165,000 and and this grant would be

2:14:51

split with the fire

2:14:55

department the grant would be used for

2:14:59

training arpa

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projects the funding set aside for the

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demo bundle has been awarded and

2:15:08

demolitions will begin within a couple

2:15:11

weeks or the beginning of 2025

2:15:21

the new position as I had mentioned just

2:15:24

earlier is to hire uh electrical

2:15:27

residential inspector right now we have

2:15:30

a lot of

2:15:32

problematic uh issues we do not inspect

2:15:36

any electrical permits that's all done

2:15:40

by third party they do a rough and a

2:15:43

final uh we are finding a lot of issues

2:15:47

with the uh third-party electrical

2:15:50

inspection will come in to do other

2:15:52

inspections see that there's a final

2:15:55

sticker on the panel as an example but

2:15:58

yet the Electrical uh installation has

2:16:02

not been

2:16:05

completed and

2:16:08

uh this will give more safety to the

2:16:13

city and also the position itself will

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pay for itself because instead of uh

2:16:20

having

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hiring a third party we would be doing

2:16:24

those

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inspections year-to dat budgets minus

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the line

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changes previously the current proposal

2:16:43

for 2025 aligns with the spending totals

2:16:47

with 2024

2:16:54

row exceeding the 2%

2:16:59

increases uh so my position would

2:17:03

increase by

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5% reason is it's a fair comparison to

2:17:08

other management positions in the city

2:17:10

of

2:17:12

Harrisburg I have met and exceeded the

2:17:14

goals of the department demolitions

2:17:17

efficiency of work within the department

2:17:19

created bilingual forms for the public

2:17:21

use training of the code officers

2:17:25

additional manage additionally managed

2:17:28

and maintain the oversight for all work

2:17:31

stated

2:17:33

below for the deputy code administrator

2:17:37

there's an increase of

2:17:39

9% he has more certifications than is

2:17:43

required for his position and he has uh

2:17:47

met or exceeded the goals of the

2:17:49

department

2:17:51

he has uh initiated a training manual he

2:17:55

comes in early every day does more time

2:17:59

than is

2:18:00

needed uh he updated uh checklists for

2:18:05

Progressive inspections that has

2:18:10

um brought in like over 50% more

2:18:15

Progressive inspections than what was

2:18:18

being done before

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he created a new employee training

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binder and he is also on call after

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hours for

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emergencies the data analyst is an

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increase by

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8% he leads critical projects the new

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mun system once that gets up and running

2:18:43

he'll be training the new code

2:18:45

officers on that system he has helped

2:18:49

with it and

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uh putting in information for

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munus and uh when the position was

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started which was a year and a half ago

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I had asked for 60,000 for that and uh

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they had started the position at

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55 it didn't increase in

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24 and it would bring it to what it

2:19:20

should be

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at

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60,000 those are two the

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increases departmental

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highlights there's 20

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demolitions

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projected

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we it says 21 completed it actually 20

2:19:45

have been completed and one was just

2:19:46

started about a week oh one will be

2:19:49

started tomorrow actually

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uh I was hoping that would be completed

2:19:54

but with the holidays I I that'll

2:19:57

probably be completed in 25 there's two

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more pending uh that's the process of

2:20:04

cdbg uh waiting for their approval to be

2:20:08

able to start the other two

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demolitions training and promotion of

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code officers supported changings

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changes to the union requested for reded

2:20:21

timelines of certifications to enhance

2:20:24

the productivity and meet the lni

2:20:26

requirements in the past it was 15 years

2:20:30

that you could the code officers would

2:20:32

be able to meet the requirements the way

2:20:35

the grades were set up this has been

2:20:37

reduced from 15 years to 5

2:20:40

years and with L and we are required to

2:20:43

have so many certifications in

2:20:45

comparison to how many permits that we

2:20:47

are signing off on

2:20:52

we've updated every form inspection

2:20:55

criteria and permit created each in

2:20:58

aiding will format and posted to see to

2:21:02

the Harrisburg website for ease of use

2:21:04

for the

2:21:06

public the international property

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maintenance code has been updated from

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2000 to

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2018 and implemented new

2:21:15

standards created background information

2:21:18

for the munis transition

2:21:21

created and maintained a condemned

2:21:23

Property database that is used by at

2:21:26

least three other departments in the

2:21:28

city police

2:21:31

fire and then also Dolphin County uh

2:21:34

uses that

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list departmental highlights for

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2025 we hope to fill the electrical

2:21:49

residential Spector if approved by city

2:21:54

council we hope to complete 31

2:21:57

demolitions fill the vacancy code

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officer positions convert capable

2:22:04

records to digital

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formats converting to munis in the

2:22:09

second or third quarter training and

2:22:12

testing to get 80% of the code officers

2:22:15

to office to officer two level

2:22:20

implement the brick Grant if

2:22:24

awarded and the completion of the arpa

2:22:27

demo

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bundle performance

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metrics demolitions each year benchmarks

2:22:43

are different based on the array of

2:22:45

moving targets and our goals that are

2:22:47

fluid from year to year

2:22:51

public complaints assessing totals are

2:22:53

also fluid but ensuring a high percent

2:22:55

of complaints or investigated assessed

2:22:58

and brought to some level of conclusion

2:23:00

is always a top priority some complaints

2:23:03

take months to bring in compliance and

2:23:05

some Take

2:23:08

Years code officer initiated complaints

2:23:12

we have code officers that will put in

2:23:14

their own complaints not just from the

2:23:16

city um public that we receive daily but

2:23:21

also the code officers when they're out

2:23:23

and about they put down um the the

2:23:28

violations that they see while they're

2:23:30

out metrics in terms of volume can be

2:23:34

pulled from the Harrisburg records

2:23:36

database upkeep and adherence to

2:23:39

internal Sops for recordkeeping are the

2:23:43

keys to

2:23:48

this and that cludes the

2:23:54

presentation thank you very much um off

2:23:56

the top of my head I don't have any

2:23:58

questions I'm going to start I'm going

2:24:00

keep it consistent start with councilman

2:24:01

Jones at the end here thank you vice

2:24:04

president green um how you doing hello

2:24:08

okay uh so one of the things I will ask

2:24:11

for an explanation for not only just for

2:24:13

myself but also for public um

2:24:17

awareness uh one of the things that you

2:24:19

said that you will be doing let me find

2:24:22

a

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slide

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um excuse me one

2:24:31

second well the question is this um

2:24:33

about the warrants being um being served

2:24:37

and issued can you can you um expound on

2:24:40

a little bit and what that means so yeah

2:24:43

we put

2:24:44

4,000 into that so someone that lives

2:24:46

far away so you know that we can maybe

2:24:50

hire somebody to serve that

2:24:52

warrant um for for something that

2:24:56

somebody has been avoiding and not um

2:24:59

taking care of the violations so is this

2:25:04

yeah is this something outside of um

2:25:07

because from my understanding when C uh

2:25:10

writes a a violation or what not it's

2:25:12

then sent to our DJs and then if it's

2:25:15

not handled there are you seeing

2:25:17

something outside of what the district

2:25:18

justice would do

2:25:20

I'm trying to understand when you say a

2:25:22

warrant is served usually oh so so it's

2:25:24

Kickback from the district judges the

2:25:26

ruling is there and it comes back to you

2:25:28

so it'll go to a warrant if if uh the

2:25:33

person does not respond or it doesn't

2:25:35

show up for court it'll go to a

2:25:38

warrant and so for us if somebody lives

2:25:42

far enough away I mean our own police

2:25:44

officers what I War but we wouldn't ask

2:25:47

them to go to Baltimore or to go to Mar

2:25:50

land to do that and so it will

2:25:53

cost I'm not four I know it wouldn't

2:25:56

cost 4,000 per call but you know what is

2:25:58

the expense associated with reaching

2:26:00

down to Maryland unless we're just I

2:26:02

mean again just effectively

2:26:03

communicating with another municipality

2:26:06

or is there a actual fee attached to

2:26:09

that warrants are different state to

2:26:12

state like we can't just automatically

2:26:15

do it right so um we have to get a third

2:26:18

party normally to serve it and what

2:26:19

third party is eligible depends on which

2:26:21

state the property owner is in but

2:26:24

basically this is for absentee landlords

2:26:26

right who just who just neglect and

2:26:28

avoid service you know we have someone

2:26:30

right now trying to have a hearing one

2:26:31

of appear remotely from the Virgin

2:26:32

Islands okay you know um and you know

2:26:35

they they they you know those have been

2:26:38

those get delayed and delayed and

2:26:40

delayed right and uh so I think this is

2:26:42

sort of an experiment how to expand

2:26:44

getting some of these out of town

2:26:45

landlords uh to get their actual

2:26:48

attention because they really do believe

2:26:49

in if if you never get me you you know

2:26:52

if you if the warrant hasn't been served

2:26:54

I don't have to appear the court has no

2:26:56

jurisdiction over that's right so my

2:26:58

question again like okay there's a cost

2:27:00

associated with that but my question

2:27:03

would be um do we have a a metric that

2:27:06

we're seeing that have you used I mean

2:27:08

how do we know we need 4,000 um do you

2:27:10

have a um any documents to show how many

2:27:13

people that you had to go outside and

2:27:15

use some money like this for I actually

2:27:18

don't I don't have documentation not

2:27:20

sure what it the cost will be

2:27:24

it's it's I I thought it was a smaller

2:27:27

amount to try to start with and and see

2:27:29

what happens with that so we've never I

2:27:33

don't want to say prosecuted so so for

2:27:35

years there was no budget line item in

2:27:38

codes to serve when they duck a warrant

2:27:41

even for local folks and so when you see

2:27:43

some of these radant folks it's because

2:27:46

they know they've not been served with

2:27:47

that warrant um they're St thousand of

2:27:50

warrants sitting in the system there's

2:27:52

thousands of violations sitting in the

2:27:55

system and codes are you just saying in

2:27:57

general codes Okay

2:27:59

thousands um and so um you know because

2:28:03

people who really want to avoid are

2:28:05

pretty good at it so I think Cod is

2:28:07

trying to put another tool in the

2:28:09

toolbox you know um and will it work I

2:28:12

don't think I don't think we know this

2:28:13

is new this is new right and so just

2:28:17

getting a constable if they go out

2:28:19

locally that's who serves those they

2:28:21

they cost money I understand but if they

2:28:23

don't get them it still costs money

2:28:25

absolutely right so they go they you pay

2:28:27

them to go out there and then you know

2:28:29

they're not we've paid the money and

2:28:31

then it's still not

2:28:32

served so my other question um just to

2:28:37

ask you to expound on a little more for

2:28:40

uh our residents as as you know as you

2:28:42

and I communicate from time to time um

2:28:44

there's a an influx of of complaints

2:28:48

about codes um we talked about this for

2:28:51

even with the update from the

2:28:53

ipmc um even with that update um and it

2:28:57

being implemented you said in in your

2:28:59

report also that it will sometimes take

2:29:01

months or up to years for anything to be

2:29:05

done so can you expound on that for our

2:29:07

residents as well yeah say if it's a

2:29:11

vacant property you know so we cite who

2:29:14

is the owner but the person is not

2:29:18

responding you know so

2:29:21

so maybe the property gets sold or

2:29:23

bought in in a repository you know so

2:29:26

then you have to go over a new owner but

2:29:28

that that citation or that complaint was

2:29:32

never brought into compliance because

2:29:34

nobody ever

2:29:36

responded and sometimes the repairs

2:29:39

could take long enough uh if somebody if

2:29:41

somebody has a we condemn a property um

2:29:44

it takes you know permits and the

2:29:48

process of rehabing that building

2:29:50

to ever bring that complaint out of uh

2:29:54

to to bring that complaint into

2:29:56

compliance so it can take a year or more

2:30:00

to rehab a

2:30:01

building right I'm just saying again um

2:30:03

you I think you're explaining it but

2:30:05

just more so of like residents there's

2:30:07

someone may me living next door again we

2:30:09

use an example I mean these are some of

2:30:11

the calls I've even giving you that

2:30:12

there was a um u a house that's made

2:30:15

that's even occupied and they're not

2:30:17

cutting their grass and they're not

2:30:18

their trees they're overes remember the

2:30:20

one picture I showed you is just

2:30:21

blocking the pathways this is clear

2:30:24

violation also with some of the the

2:30:27

vehicles that's on the parcels you know

2:30:30

um I'm seeing this a lot more than usual

2:30:34

now it's just like hey is that due to um

2:30:38

I know you don't you're not fully

2:30:39

staffed with the enforcement officers

2:30:41

are um I don't want it to be a lack of

2:30:45

of you not carrying and I know that's

2:30:47

not the case but um can you expound on

2:30:50

some of that why some of that is still

2:30:51

hanging out there for our

2:30:54

residents yeah it's uh sometimes they

2:30:57

get stuck in the DJ's office you know

2:30:59

and and um sometimes the the the owner

2:31:04

doesn't respond or doesn't have the

2:31:07

ability to

2:31:09

respond uh there's a lot of reasons of

2:31:12

why things may not come into

2:31:15

compliance um some people expect us to

2:31:18

do it you know they see a vacant

2:31:20

property well why doesn't codes fix it

2:31:22

well that's not what we do we don't fix

2:31:25

it but we can write citations we can try

2:31:28

to find the

2:31:31

owner um and and doing the warrants is

2:31:34

another uh like Neil said a tool to for

2:31:38

us to

2:31:39

utilize to try to get somebody to be

2:31:42

responsible when they're not being all

2:31:44

right um last thing uh

2:31:55

the goals for 2020

2:31:57

25 um what I don't see is again

2:32:00

strengthening those constituent Services

2:32:03

um making better contact when an email

2:32:05

will send to our phone calls place

2:32:07

because some of those complaints are

2:32:08

nobody's responding nobody's replying um

2:32:11

do we have anything or do you plan to

2:32:13

have anything because obviously I don't

2:32:15

see anything here but do you plan to

2:32:16

have anything to answer some of those

2:32:19

calls and again is that due to you know

2:32:22

um you don't have you're not fully

2:32:24

staffed in some of these areas to be

2:32:26

able to answer every becking call yeah

2:32:28

so we lost a code officer and and when

2:32:30

you lose somebody those those things do

2:32:33

happen you know um we don't have enough

2:32:36

people just to take all the work that

2:32:39

that code officer was doing and then um

2:32:43

split it among everybody else that's

2:32:45

already has enough workload uh we do try

2:32:49

to you know you know uh for the more

2:32:51

serious ones that come about I do I do

2:32:56

think we can do better on the responding

2:32:59

to the

2:33:01

complaintants and

2:33:03

um yeah I I can we're having a meeting

2:33:06

tomorrow and I can talk about that on

2:33:09

the importance of it because yeah just a

2:33:11

response just when I feel there they

2:33:14

ignore you know right right and and I

2:33:17

have people that come in and say why

2:33:18

didn't codes do anything and I look into

2:33:20

the system and I see oh well we did we

2:33:22

wrote three citations you know we we

2:33:25

sent out a notice and they're like oh

2:33:28

yeah well I didn't know that so I think

2:33:31

we can respond and let them know what we

2:33:33

are doing um and it's much appreciated

2:33:38

you know when we do talk to the public

2:33:40

all right thank you no further questions

2:33:42

vice president green thank you very much

2:33:44

councilman Rodriguez no questions for me

2:33:47

thank you councilwoman RW

2:33:51

that wasn't on thank you thank you for

2:33:53

being here um director Montgomery um and

2:33:56

for your presentation I just wanted to

2:33:58

know um the the increases I think it was

2:34:02

a

2:34:02

8% a

2:34:04

9% uh for the salaries sorry I had to

2:34:08

slide on my phone oh yeah I think it was

2:34:10

the codes administrator which is you the

2:34:13

deputy codes administrator and the D

2:34:15

data analyst I know you named some

2:34:18

things an extra jobs that they did this

2:34:21

year but I just wanted to know if there

2:34:23

was a job description because I wanted

2:34:24

to compare

2:34:27

them I can get you a description please

2:34:30

if you could just email it that's fine

2:34:32

sure thank you that's it for me thank

2:34:35

you president

2:34:37

Bowers uh just one question thank you um

2:34:40

if you could please provide in the job

2:34:43

descriptions that you'll be sharing a

2:34:45

job description for the electrical

2:34:48

residential inspector as well well that

2:34:50

would be helpful thank

2:34:53

you councilwoman Davis thanks vice

2:34:56

president green good evening Miss

2:34:58

Montgomery thank you for being here this

2:35:00

evening uh the first thing I want to do

2:35:03

is to commend you on the uh getting the

2:35:08

uh website updated with the uh forms and

2:35:12

everything and having those uh that all

2:35:15

that information be available in Spanish

2:35:19

the bilingual aspect of that so that's

2:35:21

really great um the other thing is I

2:35:25

wanted to know is is the information as

2:35:29

far as

2:35:31

um the

2:35:33

citations that you send out or warrants

2:35:39

well not warrants but oh yeah warrants

2:35:43

warrants or

2:35:44

citations is that information open to

2:35:47

the public

2:35:50

um

2:35:52

citations would that be public knowledge

2:35:55

so it's part of a court system record

2:35:57

it's not really our record like we we

2:36:00

file things with the court the court

2:36:01

issues the citation and the warrant so

2:36:04

it's part of the judicial record

2:36:06

technically under actually the right to

2:36:08

no law because it's a a judicial record

2:36:11

the request goes to them not to us the

2:36:13

right to know under the right to know

2:36:15

law because a judicial record is not a

2:36:18

municipal record okay okay so for

2:36:23

example if an elected official wanted

2:36:27

that information would they have to go

2:36:29

through the right to know procedures as

2:36:31

well an elected official of the city of

2:36:34

Harrisburg would not have to go through

2:36:36

the right to know maybe an elected

2:36:38

official from another location would um

2:36:40

but we could coordinate getting you

2:36:42

information oh okay thank you for that

2:36:45

also um and let's see here I have one

2:36:51

question but I don't so thank you very

2:36:54

much okay that's it for

2:36:56

me thank you councilwoman Daniels any

2:36:59

questions no questions just a comment it

2:37:01

would be helpful if your report had

2:37:03

numbers so that we could compare year to

2:37:06

year okay thank you councilman Davis

2:37:12

thank you I forgot one more question

2:37:15

with the 20 demolitions that codes did

2:37:20

this year was it 20 there's been uh 20

2:37:24

completed 20 completed are you able to

2:37:27

give us well I know that my colleagues

2:37:30

may not want a copy to be able to see

2:37:32

but I would like a copy to see the

2:37:35

properties that were actually demolished

2:37:38

to 20 properties sure thank you thank

2:37:42

you very

2:37:43

much thank you any other questions or

2:37:47

comments yes I do have one um

2:37:50

I know earlier late earlier on this year

2:37:53

we uh Council we had presented something

2:37:55

about um trying to create more home

2:37:57

ownership in the city of Harrisburg to a

2:38:00

program that we're looking into continue

2:38:02

to build out um the NAA program um so

2:38:06

with these scheduled

2:38:07

31 um demos to be done in

2:38:11

2025 is there a way that we will be able

2:38:15

to look at some of these properties

2:38:17

before they just get totally knocked

2:38:20

down if they're savable or salvageable

2:38:22

or I know you have grades on what what

2:38:25

could be done yeah so the grades are

2:38:28

from one to 5 one being the worst the

2:38:29

only ones we take down are the ones the

2:38:32

number ones that are already

2:38:34

collapsing um and it's you know in

2:38:37

somebody's name you know there's an

2:38:40

owner for that and once we take it down

2:38:43

there is a lean that's put on that

2:38:46

parcel so so there are mechanisms and

2:38:50

there's been a large group meeting and

2:38:52

putting some of them back in place

2:38:54

they've really Fallen away from covid

2:38:56

and afterwards but there's a vacant

2:38:58

property review board process that has

2:39:00

to happen the city doesn't own those

2:39:02

properties right we can't transfer them

2:39:04

to anybody I'm I I wasn't saying that no

2:39:06

but I'm well I mean but but what can

2:39:08

happen is if they're really neglected

2:39:10

and we don't before they get to they

2:39:12

have to come down if there's a process

2:39:15

by which the notification goes over

2:39:16

which it could become public property

2:39:19

through the vacant property reboard and

2:39:20

then it transfers to the Redevelopment

2:39:22

Authority which adds it to its list of

2:39:25

properties that someone can come in to

2:39:27

acquire and if it's done well it's

2:39:30

before those properties are now that

2:39:33

neglected child that can never be

2:39:35

repaired right if you get it early

2:39:37

enough um as opposed to just a vacant

2:39:40

lot um part of our vacant lot problem is

2:39:42

that um lot sizes at the time original

2:39:46

houses were built are smaller than and

2:39:49

the requirements now for zoning on how

2:39:52

big you can put a house on a piece a

2:39:54

building on a property so all of them

2:39:55

seem to be oneoff problems so getting

2:39:58

them early as a structure that someone

2:40:00

can rehabilitate still inside um HRA

2:40:04

would put it up there to actually then

2:40:06

apply to HRA to acquire

2:40:09

it thank you

2:40:12

sure thank you any further questions or

2:40:16

comments seeing none thank you for for

2:40:19

being here tonight miss Montgomery um

2:40:21

and I think that is going to be all of

2:40:23

the Departments we look over today uh

2:40:26

next we will open the floor to public

2:40:28

comment I will start to my right uh the

2:40:31

time limit is four minutes please state

2:40:33

your name the area in which you live in

2:40:35

the city uh and I'll start to my right

2:40:38

with anyone looking to give public

2:40:40

comment please approach the microphone

2:40:42

this microphone

2:40:44

here thank you city

2:40:46

council thank you

2:41:04

semantic um call talking about um

2:41:09

the subject that I brought up last month

2:41:12

that I didn't have enough time to finish

2:41:13

my talk about

2:41:15

it um I was wondering since going to be

2:41:19

maybe a lot of people here to give

2:41:22

public con a comment can I have it like

2:41:25

like eight eight minutes instead of four

2:41:26

minutes unfortunately we have to keep it

2:41:29

to four minutes just to keep it fair to

2:41:32

everyone

2:41:34

okay the last time I was here I was uh

2:41:38

told um that Mr Jones would would get

2:41:44

with me after the

2:41:45

meeting uh he said I left early because

2:41:48

I didn't realized there was a meeting

2:41:50

after that meeting I had other plans to

2:41:52

do okay I couldn't stay so I sent him a

2:41:55

a email uh that night he got back to me

2:41:59

that night and said he'll get back with

2:42:01

me tomorrow the next day I never he

2:42:04

never sent me any any information at all

2:42:08

and so he never got back to me I sent

2:42:10

him up a followup and he never answered

2:42:14

that um I

2:42:17

sent a

2:42:20

email a very long email to miss

2:42:23

Daniels and um it was it was blocked so

2:42:28

she could not get

2:42:29

that uh Miss Daniels is a city council

2:42:33

president right who is

2:42:36

who's who Miss oh you're the Miss

2:42:39

Daniels okay so you I I was blocked so I

2:42:43

couldn't you couldn't get my

2:42:45

email all

2:42:47

right um sent over the

2:42:52

past month and a half to two

2:42:56

months of approximate well I know

2:42:58

exactly how many there were 43 emails

2:43:02

made 32 copies of the

2:43:05

paperwork I've been to uh talking with

2:43:09

Mr

2:43:10

uh um ciders the engineer I met with him

2:43:14

at this alley in the rear of 1100 block

2:43:17

of malberry Street

2:43:19

and um he said it's going to take a long

2:43:21

time things don't happen

2:43:24

overnight um however of all the people

2:43:28

that I sent emails to um I made some

2:43:31

contact with some

2:43:33

people

2:43:35

and I

2:43:38

uh wasn't able to get any responses back

2:43:41

so the bottom line is there's a serious

2:43:44

parking problem in the 1100 block of

2:43:46

malberry street malberry street has all

2:43:48

these brand new apartment complex is

2:43:50

built

2:43:51

there the alley in behind 1100 block of

2:43:54

malberry hasn't been touched for 45 to

2:43:56

50 years I moved at silven Terrace in

2:44:00

1983 it was it was in worse condition

2:44:03

and it is well it's in worse condition

2:44:05

now than it was then and it was in

2:44:07

really bad shape I've owned a lot of

2:44:10

properties in that neighborhood this

2:44:12

neighborhood was also designated a

2:44:14

municipal historic district the 1100

2:44:17

block malberry street is a Cornerstone

2:44:20

for this

2:44:21

neighborhood the residents when this

2:44:23

neighborhood gets maybe better people to

2:44:27

afford to be it would to be affordable

2:44:30

to to live there uh maybe the rents will

2:44:32

go up and things can be a lot better

2:44:35

there won't be any parking available

2:44:37

because the street is all filled up as

2:44:39

it is right now it was filled

2:44:41

up at the time the McFarland building

2:44:44

was in uh planning stages okay and I was

2:44:49

the only one at the city uh zoning board

2:44:51

meeting to appeal

2:44:54

to to the to the organization of people

2:44:57

there that we need a parking lot in the

2:45:00

back of 1100 block of malberry Street

2:45:03

and at that time they used to bring the

2:45:04

trash back up that alley and now they

2:45:06

they made us put the trash cans in the

2:45:08

front of the properties on malberry

2:45:11

street and thank you for your

2:45:16

comment so I'm asking for some help no

2:45:18

one giving me any help with this no

2:45:20

one's contacted me all right you your

2:45:23

time's up but you don't have to leave

2:45:24

tonight because we don't have another

2:45:25

meeting after this and you and I can

2:45:27

speak with you all right thank

2:45:32

you thank you anyone else to the right

2:45:34

for public

2:45:37

comment seeing none anyone in the center

2:45:40

that would like to give public

2:45:43

comment my name is Han Johnson um I live

2:45:46

in a 1900 block of Market Street

2:45:50

um I came here today to a um it's a it's

2:45:53

a big a of the city but um I feel as

2:45:56

though it's one that is very necessary

2:45:59

um over the few years I've worked in a

2:46:04

few different fields so I have a

2:46:07

perspective um most people don't have um

2:46:10

I worked as a juvenile delinquent

2:46:12

counselor I worked as a case worker for

2:46:16

the state um for refugees as well well

2:46:19

as local residents um and I worked as a

2:46:22

social worker um for justice Works um I

2:46:26

also coached um tracking field for the

2:46:30

Youth Level as well as the high school

2:46:33

level and what I've noticed over time is

2:46:36

that um a lot of the resources are put

2:46:42

into the uh the Redevelopment if I want

2:46:47

to use that word

2:46:49

um instead of uh being proactive in

2:46:54

giving the youth the necessary resources

2:46:57

to be successful um I'm a Living

2:47:00

Testament that uh

2:47:02

Sports um can save a young young young

2:47:05

men's life um I got a scholarship to go

2:47:07

run track at Penn State um I was a state

2:47:10

champion I was a division one All

2:47:13

American um I wouldn't have been able to

2:47:15

do any of those things if there wasn't

2:47:17

someone like you know in the

2:47:19

neighborhood like Kirk Smallwood or

2:47:21

Angel doyo which has a you know world

2:47:24

record that can't be broken but you

2:47:25

wouldn't know that when you go to Harris

2:47:27

Harrisburg High

2:47:30

um um needless to say

2:47:33

um about seven years ago we all came

2:47:36

together as a collective and we thought

2:47:37

about a group called Harrisburg Youth

2:47:39

Sports Association um but we we couldn't

2:47:42

seem to get the traction or the support

2:47:44

and able to get it off the ground um

2:47:47

over this past year I was was the head

2:47:49

coach of the Harrisburg coer

2:47:51

Football Smurf team and uh what I

2:47:54

noticed was we lost a lot of our kids to

2:47:57

ssco Hannah um SW a because it was free

2:48:01

and um our program was looked at as

2:48:03

dingy and ran down because we have old

2:48:05

equipment and our un our uniforms don't

2:48:09

look nice

2:48:11

um and I also noticed that the

2:48:14

registration fee was uh a certain amount

2:48:16

that a lot of the parents couldn't pay

2:48:18

so it was real hard for them to allow

2:48:20

their child to uh to play a sport um and

2:48:24

this goes on because like uh the best

2:48:26

kid on the team last year he couldn't

2:48:27

play this year if you ask him why didn't

2:48:30

you play it's like he didn't want to but

2:48:31

the truth is his mom didn't have enough

2:48:33

money so when that kid can't play

2:48:36

football he can't he doesn't have

2:48:38

anything to do and then when you don't

2:48:40

have anything to do you find something

2:48:42

to do and that something might not be

2:48:44

positive all the time

2:48:47

um so we have a few organizations we

2:48:51

came together this is well thought out

2:48:53

we have a plan to execute it um so it's

2:48:58

the

2:48:59

Harrisburg baby

2:49:01

cougars Harrisburg so we you know the

2:49:04

first ask I'm coming to Harrisburg to

2:49:06

ask can we have support um you can't do

2:49:08

anything if you don't have money um so

2:49:11

we definitely uh you need help and it's

2:49:15

it's uh it's a dire need for the

2:49:17

children and they need something to do

2:49:19

like I said like they say athletes you

2:49:21

know kids that are in high school

2:49:23

they're um and their athletes they're

2:49:24

more prone to be successful because of

2:49:27

the things that you know you learn as an

2:49:29

athlete some companies often go after

2:49:32

athletes to hire them um it's not the

2:49:34

end all be all um that's just not the

2:49:37

only thing that we' be focused on we

2:49:39

make it in a requirement to um you pay

2:49:41

$100 you get to play two sports um one

2:49:44

of the other things is that you have to

2:49:47

the players have to attend four program

2:49:48

during the year um parents have to

2:49:52

volunteer thank you for your

2:49:56

comment anyone else from the

2:50:10

middle good evening my name is Cher

2:50:13

Hughes a resident excuse me I've been a

2:50:17

resident for three years in the city of

2:50:20

Harrisburg I lost three sons to the city

2:50:24

to gun

2:50:26

violence with no

2:50:28

answers I've been fighting this by

2:50:31

itself ever since

2:50:35

91314 from my oldest to my

2:50:39

youngest all killed on the streets of

2:50:41

Harrisburg to gun

2:50:44

vience excuse

2:50:46

me I'm working with the city councilman

2:50:49

Mr Rodriguez and Miss Amber on beginning

2:50:53

this process and hope I can get

2:50:55

everyone's

2:50:57

support the city fail the city's failure

2:51:00

to act on this in other in instance like

2:51:06

it my stomach's are kns y'all excuse me

2:51:10

I spoke with the police from the

2:51:11

detectives to the chief of police Corey

2:51:13

Dickerson to commissioner Carter to

2:51:16

Chief commissioner Kenneth Young to the

2:51:18

Williams mayor I have not received the

2:51:22

help I should

2:51:24

have as a

2:51:28

resident I've lost my three sons to

2:51:31

these

2:51:32

streets to come by this I would like to

2:51:36

support a petition to have a small

2:51:38

plaque in the areas of my son's deaths

2:51:41

to leave as a reminder of how great of a

2:51:43

young men they

2:51:46

were I want to hold hmac accountable for

2:51:50

the

2:51:51

incident they gave money under the table

2:51:55

as hush money but need to be accountable

2:51:59

as

2:51:59

well I need answers from the mayor and

2:52:04

the department other

2:52:11

departments I ask as a mother

2:52:19

for streets to be

2:52:21

lightning trees to be cut

2:52:24

down activities for our youth they have

2:52:28

nothing to offer our children out here

2:52:31

there's nothing to offer our children

2:52:34

and they fall victim to these horrible

2:52:38

streets more

2:52:41

policing and uh high crime

2:52:45

areas not go Patrol the area for a hot

2:52:48

second and then leave out the area

2:52:51

policing means staying in the area

2:52:54

policing the

2:52:59

area I'm just trying to figure

2:53:03

out police took a oath to serve and

2:53:06

protect our community who are they

2:53:08

serving and protecting their own because

2:53:11

I have

2:53:12

to to these streets and I've been

2:53:15

fighting for 10 years by S

2:53:22

the mayor she got Justice for her

2:53:26

granddaughter commissioner

2:53:28

Carter he got Justice for his

2:53:31

nephew

2:53:36

detective Duffin retired came back on

2:53:40

the force and got Justice for his

2:53:42

brother

2:53:45

they their relatives

2:53:49

these are my

2:53:50

children where's my Justice I've been

2:53:53

doing this for myself for 10 years and

2:53:56

they all know it I've been as far as

2:54:00

victim the crime delinquency

2:54:08

building I've been fighting since

2:54:13

9134 nobody's helping me from them to

2:54:18

mayor

2:54:19

helping me thank you for your comments

2:54:21

Miss Hughes can I get a few more seconds

2:54:24

please please because nobody's listening

2:54:27

to

2:54:28

me nobody's listening to

2:54:34

me this is all

2:54:36

paperwork from a crime delinquency

2:54:39

building paperwork from the mayor that

2:54:42

she asked me to get bring back to her so

2:54:44

she can help

2:54:45

me and that was 2022

2:54:49

save this last

2:54:52

baby sa my last

2:54:55

baby

2:54:56

graduated wasn't able to walk the stage

2:54:59

I had to do

2:55:01

that he was he was

2:55:45

basketball

2:56:05

so

2:56:06

now all three of my sons graduated

2:56:10

to they all

2:56:12

graduated but this wasn't here

2:56:15

to I

2:56:26

IEC

2:56:27

young

2:56:29

commissioner kidne

2:56:32

young commissioner

2:56:34

Carter detective

2:56:37

Rudy detective

2:56:40

VI only detective listening

2:56:44

to the only detective that's helping me

2:56:48

right now for all three he was only

2:56:52

assigned to one of my son's

2:56:55

cases thank you Miss Hughes app

2:56:59

you but as a

2:57:02

mother what am I supposed to do now I

2:57:05

have three sons I had to bury my babies

2:57:09

supposed to nobody gave me no answer

2:57:44

thank you Miss Hughes um we are

2:57:49

I know your story um I know it all too

2:57:52

well I knew your middle son we grew up

2:57:54

together out the South so um I I can't

2:57:57

say I feel your pain cuz I I I couldn't

2:57:59

imagine the level of pain that you feel

2:58:02

um I will do what I can um I don't know

2:58:05

how much I can do but I will speak with

2:58:07

the police department as well um I think

2:58:08

I speak with for all my council members

2:58:10

here when when we say uh we want to find

2:58:12

Justice for your sons as well as well as

2:58:15

um any victim in the city of Harrisburg

2:58:16

that faces gun violence so I appreciate

2:58:18

you coming down here tonight um and

2:58:20

sharing it directly with us and we'll

2:58:22

see what we can do um I can't make any

2:58:24

promises because I'm not a detective but

2:58:26

I will say that um you do have our you

2:58:28

have my support and I believe you have

2:58:29

all of our support and our deepest

2:58:32

condolences I appreciate that and one

2:58:34

more question that I forgot to ask you

2:58:37

far as my son's

2:58:39

memorials how do we go about this now is

2:58:42

we putting plaques up or something um I

2:58:46

know I had I think I responded to

2:58:48

Amber's email um just saying about a

2:58:51

petition um and then I believe it gets

2:58:54

brought to the our office um city

2:58:57

council and I'm not sure where it goes

2:58:59

from there but I do know that's part of

2:59:01

the process to make sure there's support

2:59:03

within the neighborhood Y and then we

2:59:04

also reached out to friends in Midtown

2:59:06

so after the holidays perhaps have a

2:59:08

town hall because there was some that

2:59:10

were a bit iffy so we want to alleviate

2:59:12

all fears and frustrations in Midtown

2:59:15

and perhaps get the right signatures up

2:59:17

to get that going but we'll we'll have

2:59:19

further talks about that as well miss

2:59:20

yeah but I'm confused about it it was a

2:59:22

crime committed there they can't just I

2:59:24

understand make it seem like it didn't

2:59:26

exist understand and coming to public

2:59:28

comment is exactly how we started then

2:59:30

we have the momentum we need to move

2:59:32

forward thank you thank

2:59:34

you I just wanted to say thank you so

2:59:37

much for coming and sharing and um if

2:59:39

you wouldn't mind staying after perhaps

2:59:42

we can um talk a little bit more thank

2:59:46

you thank you

2:59:48

thank

2:59:49

you is there anyone else from the middle

2:59:51

section of public comment um I just want

2:59:53

to say my name is Amber block I'm from

2:59:55

the new Fox Ridge Neighborhood where the

2:59:57

murder of ozar occurred outside hmac I

3:00:00

support putting a memorial plaque and I

3:00:03

wanted do everything we can as a city to

3:00:06

make sure there's not one plaque more we

3:00:09

as residents are tired of hearing

3:00:12

gunshots and Sirens outside our doors we

3:00:15

want to see Justice done this gun

3:00:18

violence stopped and I personally would

3:00:20

like to see um this addressed in a

3:00:23

constructive fashion by you

3:00:26

know following Community dialogue by

3:00:30

working more through the gun violence

3:00:31

prevention initiative by building more

3:00:33

community centers by Honor honoring and

3:00:36

centering the victims thank you thank

3:00:39

you any other comments from the

3:00:41

center hi yes my name is Jessica T and

3:00:44

I'm a resident of the community um I

3:00:47

just think we need to do more for our

3:00:49

youth as far as like providing things so

3:00:53

they're not getting bored going in the

3:00:56

streets killing each other stuff like

3:00:59

that I lost three brothers to G violence

3:01:01

that's my mom ch um I had to quit my job

3:01:06

nursing because it's a mental thing

3:01:08

because I just don't know how this can

3:01:10

just happen to one

3:01:12

family um and I would like more to be

3:01:16

done because we have other kids that got

3:01:18

to grow up in this community in this

3:01:21

world and I think if it's things placed

3:01:23

in order for them to do that you know

3:01:27

could keep them busy as far as after

3:01:30

school program when I was

3:01:32

young I was yeah I was in the mix and

3:01:35

stuff like that but it was things for me

3:01:37

to do to change my life around like it

3:01:39

was stuff like boys and girls club it

3:01:41

was Big Brother Big Sisters it was

3:01:44

advocates in the school it was it it was

3:01:46

a lot of things going on that ain't

3:01:48

going on now today where we're we're

3:01:52

getting all these violence all these

3:01:55

crimes while these kids is bored they

3:01:57

have nothing to do I have a 20 year old

3:02:00

daughter I have a 18 year old well he'll

3:02:02

be 18 my son

3:02:05

and you know I'm I'm I'm battling with

3:02:09

him with trying to be in the streets

3:02:11

because he's bored you know kids get

3:02:13

bored so they findel running off doing

3:02:16

things that they have no business

3:02:17

because it's nothing for them to do and

3:02:19

I think the community need to need to

3:02:21

put more money into things for these

3:02:23

kids to have something to do so our

3:02:25

group could grow up and be productive

3:02:27

and be

3:02:28

something then putting all this money

3:02:30

into like the officers things like that

3:02:32

what is what is they doing to help our

3:02:35

community the crimes is going on every

3:02:37

other day people are out here killing

3:02:39

each other every other

3:02:41

day what are we paying them

3:02:44

for it it is just not making sense they

3:02:47

are here to Pres protect and serve we

3:02:49

don't got no protection people running

3:02:51

down to them letting them know like my

3:02:54

mom she tried to save her son she went

3:02:57

to him letting him know like my son's

3:02:59

being harassed people shooting at my son

3:03:02

the May kept pushing my mom out the door

3:03:05

now my brother's dead now he's dead we

3:03:09

asked for help but the mayor had my mom

3:03:12

they made her go go through all this

3:03:13

stuff go sit down to get all this

3:03:16

paperwork so they can relocate her you

3:03:19

know she was down there Time After Time

3:03:21

After Time again and couldn't get up out

3:03:23

of here now my brother's

3:03:26

dead because of the promises the city

3:03:28

gave her and all this and that just

3:03:30

imagine what other family they going to

3:03:32

give all these promises to when they

3:03:33

running down there telling them these

3:03:35

boys is after my son help me help me

3:03:38

help me my mom pleaded for help she got

3:03:43

none now my brother's gone

3:03:47

so we just need to do more in this

3:03:50

community for our youth we we we need to

3:03:52

do more we need to invest more money

3:03:55

into them we want them to have a future

3:03:59

these babies should not be dying out in

3:04:02

the street these moms should not bury

3:04:03

these babies we should bury our moms

3:04:06

it's the complete opposite these kids

3:04:07

ain't making it past 14 it's nothing for

3:04:10

them to

3:04:11

do nobody the cops sees kids out in the

3:04:15

street they're not making them back then

3:04:17

we in we out in the street past street

3:04:19

lights oh they're picking us up taking

3:04:21

us to our residents we got to go in the

3:04:23

home it's curfews it's nothing in place

3:04:27

going on out here now today it's like

3:04:29

it's just saying okay do what y'all want

3:04:31

kill each other that's not right that's

3:04:33

not fair get these kids an opportunity

3:04:37

get these babies an

3:04:38

opportunity we need to do more in our

3:04:41

city and anything I can do because also

3:04:45

I was in a gang growing up I was in lady

3:04:47

soldiers I lost the best friend to that

3:04:50

so I changed my whole life and

3:04:52

everything around because of that but

3:04:54

thank you for your comment okay thank

3:04:59

you thank you anyone else from the

3:05:02

center anyone from the

3:05:06

left seeing none uh looks like it is

3:05:10

8:38 p.m. um a call to adjourn the

3:05:14

meeting motion to

3:05:16

adjourn so

3:05:19

thank you

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