2025 Budget Hearing Meeting #2 - 12/10/24
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good evening everybody um we will call
our second official budget hearing to
order um so I will ask Mr truell to do
the roll call for us
Miss Daniels here Miss Davis present
Miss green present Mr Jones here Miss
Rose present Mr Rodriguez present Miss
Bowers present all right thank you
everybody for being here tonight uh we
do have a little change to our agenda
we're going to have the Bureau of fire
go first but before we begin I am going
to have the office of Finance give a
little bit of an overview of some
technical correction that will be coming
down in the
budget good evening Council uh there was
uh technical correction in the
department of solicitors office or
Bureau of a solicitor's office as well
as the
uh Department of codes and I have
attachments here that kind of that can
show you exactly um with highlights that
there's no actual changes to the dollar
amounts to the numbers itself uh simply
the position in solicitor's office the
position the second position for the
legal assistant um did not show up due
the programming error uh as well as over
in the in the uh codes division in the
codes area uh their position for the uh
electrical residential inspector did not
show as well because of a coding error
those are uh two new positions that's
being requested for the 2025 budget and
uh when when I went through and added
those positions the programming was
missed therefore I'll take full uh fault
for this uh but ultimately I have the
corrected documents here that includes
those positions the amounts um
highlights as well as the actual
documents that drive uh the the document
in the budget book uh as proof
ultimately to show that the numbers did
not change at all um if you have any
questions I'm all ears um but just
wanted to bring that bring that to light
um and uh be forthcoming about uh
technical correction um as it did not it
was not presented in your current
book Thank you very much and so the
calculations were in there the position
just wasn't showing correct all right uh
I don't have any questions do I have
questions from any of my
colleagues all right thank you very
much and now Chief inline whenever you
are ready please feel free good good
evening members of council and I
apologize for my appearance tonight uh
the Bure fire has been operating since
about 10:30 last night we just cleared a
rather large fire up at the state
hospital complex so uh my appearance I
apologize for but it's part of the part
of the job that we're here for protected
our citizens 24 hours a day seven days a
week uh on their schedule not ours
so I'll let J I think Jared's going to
run our PowerPoint for us you can uh
flip to the next slide I think a
department overview um again our
business hours are dictated by the needs
of our citizens we provide service to
the residents visitors and our
surrounding municipalities 24 hours a
day seven days a week 365 days a year
that adhere with our admission statement
and then additionally our core values uh
on the following
slide excuse me Chief anderline can you
pleas please move the microphone closer
to you I've never been told I was too
quiet thank
you moving on to significant budget
changes um really not a significant
budget change uh 2024 budget was 9.9
million we're at 10.5 and I'll explain a
little bit more in detail on where those
numbers come from on the next
slide there's a 3.5% contractual salary
increase for our membership uh for the
union membership we did increase our
overtime from 400,000 to 475,000
building improvements is probably one of
the biggest ones from 50,000 to
500,000 and uh we have an inter fund
transfer of 500,000 and then our sewer
water and maintenance is being
transferred back to the fire Bureau to
pay Council may remember earlier this
year you did a budget reallocation for
water sewer and Sewer maintenance so
that we could take those budget numbers
over so that the 2024 requested budget
was zero so there was a pretty
significant uh increase there so uh
looking at the overtime that was obvious
uh just because of the amount of members
that we have currently deployed in the
military we have four we do have one
coming back uh shortly several long-term
uh injuries and both uh on duty and uh
personal injuries that that folks are
dealing with along with the health
issues that we see uh in FMLA with
newborns and things uh with members
having new children the building
improvements uh we've had that in our
Five-Year Plan for five years now uh one
thing is going to be a new station
alerting system for all the stations
that will take information directly from
Dolphin County's computerated dispatch
system to alert our members to that uh
that was due to a change of uh the
county pushing us to go to uh one single
dist dispatch channel as opposed to our
own private dispatch channel and then
the second part of that 500,000 is
remodeling the bedroom at the fire
station to and we believe that that'll
be about a $300,000 project and the
station alerting system is about a
$200,000 project uh the in fund transfer
I'm actually pretty proud of this uh we
created a syncing fund and Council may
remember uh over multiple years we've
replaced a lot of fire apparatus and we
always come down for a large
appropriation every year for those when
we need to buy the apparatus so what
we're asking for is to transfer into our
fire protection fund funding every year
so that when we come down to and need to
purchase that next piece of fire
apparatus that ask is not as great so
we're keeping that money set aside on an
annual basis um so that we can fund
those apparatus purchases as they become
uh
needed moving on to our
diversity we are uh we currently have 94
Personnel uh with one civilian position
we have 82 white males five black males
three Hispanic males two American Indian
males and two
females and moving on to
vacancies our current compliment uh as
of to as of yesterday uh is 93 our 2024
budgeted compliment was
103 with three of those positions being
unfunded so they showed up in the budget
but there was no allocation for those
additional three which leaves us a
current uh vacancy of seven and I just
want to point out um a couple things uh
as it pertains to vacancies um we would
certainly like to have that complement
of 103 109
110 however with the uh taxing base that
we have in the city with a lot of these
businesses highrises going back for
reassessments what I don't want to do uh
is hire firefighters that we can't
afford in 10 years um we are holding our
own with our current compliment and I
don't want to bring anybody else on
until we can figure out if we have the
ability to pay for that the one way that
we can pay for that uh and I advocate
for this is the hiring of a lobbyist and
I know that that's a touchy subject with
Council but I'm
begging for that before January and I'll
tell you why when we go over there I go
over personally and meet with scores of
Representatives and
Senators to get additional funding we
get five million a year it's been
stagnant at 5 million for the last 10
years we have not been able to get it
over that 100 yard line and score a
touchdown for us uh over over the last
five six years that have been going over
there and it really comes down to the
people that know the people to get the
money in the budget for and I believe
that having that lobbyist work for us
and using it from the fire department
standpoint will be beneficial to every
citizen because if we get that extra two
or three million that we're asking for
that will allow us to increase that
budgeted compliment and better protect
our citizens so I think there's a direct
uh correlation to that and I think
there's an ultimate payoff that protects
our citizens in a much better way and i'
I've been in front of you many times o
over the last 10 years about the
diminished number of volunteers that we
have coming in to assist us in the city
last night they did a tremendous job we
had we had a tremendous uh outpouring of
support from our mutual Aid Partners
first time that in my 30 years here that
we've used a tanker task force um which
is unheard of in the city but we had a
lot of mutual Aid folks come in
yesterday was an anomaly compared to
what it would be at Tuesday at 2 o'clock
in the afternoon when I only have 16
firemen on the street and I may only get
two or three from each of those
companies coming uh so that it is
imperative um that we work to get that
number increased from the Commonwealth
to assist us that gives us a positive
Revenue stream coming in uh that we can
rely on year after year and I don't have
to worry about three or four or five
years from now where we have to lay
firefighters off because that's not what
we're in business to do we need them and
uh I believe that that lobbyist would be
a significant benefit um for the fire
Bureau uh the budget uh as as you well
know talk start in January with the
governor and uh it would be great to be
in there and I can tell you through the
uh subsquent Area Regional Airport
Authority which uh I'm a chairman of the
operations committee we just hired a
lobbying firm and they're already boots
on the ground identifying those sources
of income to help support the airport
and Airport operations it's just it's so
important for us for the fire department
standpoint and I I would really love to
to have those guys on board that I can
meet with and go and be that
spokesperson alongside going into those
offices people that know how to get us
set those
fundings uh you know ideally we'd have
you know as I said more uh more Staffing
on the street and it also uh looking at
statistics community relations and
things like that I have nobody so it is
the four of us uh and one person in the
office so our office complement is
essentially five I do have one fire
inspector uh and those numbers again
with that additional funding from the
state if we can Garner that will help us
to better serve the citizens with other
opportunities that we have moving on uh
just wanted to highlight retirements we
had six retirements thus the vacancies
and we do know we have one retirement
coming in January that was just
announced on
Monday moving on to
Grants we currently have a dolphin
County gaming grant that we're working
through for
$250,000 it's a floor project uh at both
of the fire station station one and
station two
in 2024 we were awarded to 2023 24 fire
commissioner grant for $155,000 we
purchased new tools and equipment for uh
the new apparatus that we purchased we
got a
$5,000 Northfolk southern safety first
grant and we're designing uh timers
specifically for our elderly and the
elderly highrises one of the things that
we look at our statistics uh when we
have a chance to do that is we do a lot
of unattended cooking calls uh in those
uh elderly high-rise buildings and if we
can give them a timer um to set that
will wake them up after say five or 10
minutes it will help us and maybe
diminish those number of false alarms
that were going to those particular
properties um cdbg funding um we were uh
given $500,000 earlier this year thus
far we've purchased uh atmospheric air
monitors that were uh that were in need
of replacement new hydraulic tools and
equipment for uh new apparatus we just
received a th000 uh smoke alarms that we
we install throughout the city uh free
of
charge uh we're doing some safety
upgrades to our Reserve Tower one uh
we're waiting on parts for that to begin
that's a $73,000 project updates updates
to the diesel exhaust systems at all the
stations that's about a 86 $887,000
project and the replacement of the bay
doors at fire stations number one and
two and as Council will remember uh we
were allocated funding to replace the
front doors uh two years ago that
project was was completed and this will
be the final phase of putting new doors
on to replace about 30 35 year old doors
on the fire stations we are currently
working with the Grants Department on an
assistance to Firefighters grant for
firefighter physicals and cancer
screening and we applied for and will
likely be awarded $155,000 from the
State Fire Commissioner's office again
next year and we're going to dedicate
that money to firefighter physicals
again uh giving back to those that serve
our community uh day in and day
out moving on to arpa projects um the
replacement of the fire Bureau radios
which was awarded uh those radios were
purchased received the invoice was paid
and nearly all those radios are
currently in service in apparatus and
issued to each individual
firefighter new positions again we have
no new positions uh in the 2025 budget I
certainly would love to tell you in 2026
that we're going to hire additional
Personnel uh we will begin uh in January
hiring uh to replace those six that we
lost uh through retirements in
2024 don't think I had any notes on that
now year-to-date
budget uh does our current year-to dat
budget align um with our 2025 ASCO we'll
discuss out in the next couple of
slides uh again looking at the overtime
I just and I I think I've told Council
this the last at least eight years uh
when we look at the uh year-to-date
expended for 2024 is 1 Point uh two
million essentially on a
$475,000 budget and a lot of that
overtime uh is is in two two areas uh
number one we had those unexpected
deployments of four Personnel to active
duty military which took four folks out
we have two long-term uh injuries that
we're dealing with uh but more
importantly uh the deployment of
Pennsylvania Tas for one uh really
manipulates those numbers up and down
throughout the year we could certainly
budget and put in there 1.2 million but
it would make the budget lopsided so we
feel confident budgeting 475 come back
to city council after those deployments
and adjust revenue and expenses
accordingly with the money that we'll be
receiving back from the federal uh
government uh severance pay was uh
significantly higher this year because
of the six
retirees uh we still feel confident on
$85,000 now if we get another six to
retire we will have to do some
reallocation understand though that when
we have those uh employees with multiple
years of service those 20 plus year uh
veterans uh that will also cut down on
the salaries and wages because the new
folks coming in will be at a lower
salary rate because they're not here 20
plus years uh the Medicare premium Part
B uh we're budgeting at 185 uh we were
only budgeting at 85 uh there were a lot
of members in the fire Bureau of retired
members uh and their wives that are now
reaching uh that benefit age and
contractually we were obligated to pay
their Medicare Part B premium for them u
in retirement once once they reach that
age uh lost time Med uh again that was
one that we asked for a
reallocation I feel confident uh that
300,000 is going to cover it and and I
hope um that we'll be a little bit below
that again we had two significant
injuries that we were dealing with uh
this past year and hopefully we will get
those resolved with requiring a lot of
specialty visits with u just a plethora
of crazy doctors quite honestly uh and
in the fire pension plan that obviously
uh is calculated by the Commonwealth uh
at 1.1 million this year uh and the
majority of that is actually uh
reimbursed to the city from the
Commonwealth for the uh Pension Plan uh
through the foreign fire tax and other
means moving on to the next slide
uh tools and Hardware uh we had and I'll
lump these all together tools Hardware
vehicle parts and supplies those were
all hired this year because of the
purchase of the new apparatus we had a
lot of tools and equipment that we
wanted to buy we used to in the fire
Bureau um have to transfer equipment
from one to the other uh anytime a
Frontline rig went out of service excuse
me we are uh now have those rigs fully
stockit it if we have a a call like we
did last night where we need multiple
Reserve apparatus we still have enough
of tools and equipment to effectively uh
take care of the community so uh those
were a couple of areas where we we were
uh
overspent uh and then building
improvements obviously we already talked
about that on the on the first Slide the
uh the jump in that and then the
operations equipment uh that went from
989 uh which also included those radios
that we purchased uh down to zero
because we're not purchasing a fire
apparatus uh in 2025
roles exceeding uh 2% increases is just
a management Chiefs to keep uh
management me members in alignment with
the bargaining unit increases which were
3.5 and
3.75% uh and to make sure that that
position of deputy chief uh remains a
fairly lucrative one for the member to
come out of a 4-day work week with four
days off every week to a five-day work
week with two days off every week um and
and uh you know and also do away with
the overtime so as I said our members
have been on scene last night since 10
o'clock uh and I I was there right
alongside of them so that's kind of what
you get from the management Chief's
position um and uh it it gets wearing
and I I think that's what we're kind of
showing there with the burnout building
sometimes you get burnout like we are
here tonight after a long 24
hours moving on to departmental
Highlights uh we're going to continue
with our current Staffing model and
response model for Effective response
continue to all the training programs
you remember we hired a deputy chief of
training to increases the training and
uh the availability of training and
quality training and consistent training
across all four of our platoons
Implement a new records management
system which we've been working on for
about the last six months uh we have
we'll have that up and running uh
January 31st onto a new system and we'll
be going switching from the niffers
system into to nearest which is a new
federal uh requirement uh by the end of
next year we're going to explore some
further fire inspection opportunities
both internally and externally so we may
be coming to council uh Midway through
the year with a uh external uh self
inspection program and we're going to be
looking at some opportunity for that
that will not only benefit uh the fire
Bureau from a inspection standpoint but
it will also benefit codes as well uh
we're going going to uh finalize those
capital projects that we've talked about
and we're going to um continue our
emphasis on uh Community engagement with
smoke alarm installations carbon
monoxide alarm installations street
fairs block parties uh our one of our
favorite National Night Out station
tours and Fire Prevention activities and
we did I I did have some and I apologize
again I was in the office like
literally maybe 10 minutes today uh we
did approximately three
200 smoke alarm installations uh in 2025
so far and I know there's a several
scheduled this
weekend 2024 what did I say it's getting
late thank you
councilman uh so just looking at how we
uh you know how we look at ourselves uh
we look at NFPA 1710 Staffing uh which
is uh six minutes that's actually in in
the uh
uh it's typically in the standard
written in seconds so not to confuse
anyone we're looking at minutes uh and
we look at this uh so 92% of the
incidents and you'll see it it's only 84
and that's that's the structure fire
responses uh we meet uh the goal is 90%
of the time we're exceeding that at 92%
of the time and quite frankly when we
look at that uh we do have times when
we're dispatched for a structure fire
where it's not a structure fire and it
the coding for that doesn't change and
so uh we only end up with three
firefighters showing up on that where
we're looking uh for that six complement
and that's that's where sometimes those
numbers get skewed we're well within the
national average of uh 90 uh percent so
we're happy with that when we look at uh
we look at the overall uh calls and this
is inside the city of Harrisburg current
as of I think it was the 8th of December
uh
2762 calls inside of uh the city of
Harrisburg and of those these are
whether we go out the door with one
piece of apparatus or four pieces of
apparatus or it's a first alarm
structure fire we take everything this
includes all those that where we're
going lights and siren or if we're just
driving normal street speed what we call
class three response so even at that
we're meeting the goal uh of that six
minute response time 88% of the time uh
so we're still giving the citizens a
pretty good response time uh as it
pertains to even non-emergency
responses uh which the NFPA does not
recognize in the
standard standard still 90% though yes
90% yeah for emergency incidents and
that's why that's filtered out to
include the non-emergency incident so
those that are uh those that would be
dispatched by the county as a
non-emergency call I just wanted to show
the where we were even if we Factor
those uh into it gotcha and then just
looking at the the call overview right
now we're at uh 3,194 incidents so that
includes all those Mutual a calls that
we do uh and the prior year we were at
uh I'm sorry 3,263 incidents a year to
date and prior year was
3,110 so we did have a significant
increase uh over that uh two-day period
where we were dealing with the tornado
uh so that that was a little bit of an
increase and we had another bad storm
came through that uh that peaked our
numbers as well so uh you know
statistics only tell the story they want
you to tell and so you can look at and
say oh my goodness you're doing more
work uh you know what are you guys doing
really I think you look at two or three
separate days accounts for the majority
of those increases in incidents not not
to say that our guys aren't doing work
that we're we're uh doing a ton of
work looking at training uh total
student hours is what we like to look at
uh is uh 14,6 74 uh hours you'll see
that spike in May and that spike in May
is when we log all the hours for our new
employees that are going through the
fire academy and things like that so
that's why you see the spike uh in may
we do our Arc program where they get all
kinds of uh additional training uh to
make them Street
ready and then our performance Matrix uh
it kind of goes to takes us back to the
the prior three pages but we strive to
meet those National consensus standards
to include n PA 1710 on response time
and Staffing for incidents uh looking at
Staffing the response time again to
emergency incidents and in the uh ISO um
which we've talked to council many times
about that includes Staffing training
for firefighters to travel distance and
number of engine and truck companies
within the city are hydrants which uh
we've had a really good working
relationship with Capitol region water
and the uh the Water crew uh making sure
that those hydrants get uh inspected on
an annual basis which wasn't happening
uh when uh when when I first came down
here 10 years ago and that's that number
is really increased and we're excited to
see how that affects our ISO uh the next
time that that comes up uh next year I
believe uh again it's also looking at
tools and equipment and then the testing
of pumps and Aerials and
ladders and with that we will answer any
questions that you may
have thank you very much um I think that
was a pretty thorough presentation so
thank you for that uh I don't have any
questions I will start with questions
from our colleagues uh starting with a
public safety chair down there
councilman Jones vice president green
thank
you excuse me I just have um I agree I
think this was a a well laid out um
PowerPoint uh but the question I have is
around a a $500,000 spend and um for the
bathroom and the bedroom okay so can you
explain to me or to the public uh that
spin is we're we're not talking about
one bedroom right well when we say one
bedroom uh currently all of our
firefighters sleep next to each other in
an open bedroom environment so um if if
I may the way the council desks are laid
out that is how my firefighters sleep in
the fire station uh so what we want to
do and we have a large open area in the
middle of that so this is a very large
room um with uh is there 22 Murphy Beds
I believe it is we like to get rid of
those Murph beds and replace them with
20 22 I believe it is uh and replace
those with individual a dorm style uh
sleeping facility uh for
privacy got you no further
questions thank you councilman
Rodriguez thank you Madame vice
president thank you gentlemen for uh
being here this evening just for context
in the budget when we speak of apparatus
do we mean trucks do we mean air units
what specifically are we referring to so
when we talk apparatus that could be
anything in our Fleet um so that could
be anything from a tractor drawn aerial
to a boat um so that is our apparatus en
rolling stuff thank you no further
questions thank you councilwoman Ross
good evening thank you all for coming
tonight it was a a great presentation
didn't leave me with any questions all
of mine were answered in the
presentation so thank
you thank you president Bowers thank you
good evening I don't have any uh
questions thank you for your
presentation thank you councilwoman
Davis thank you vice president green
thank you Chief edene and for your team
for being here and thank you especially
for the service that you provide and for
saving lives in our community every day
and thank you for being here because I
know you've been out all night so you
eyes look pretty good um I was just
going to ask about the smoke detectors
the 200 smoke detectors that you're
putting in I guess various hom in the
city are they the updated ones the the
sealed fire um smoke alarms yes so about
I want to say six eight years ago when
they first came out we made it a policy
that we will no longer install any smoke
alarm that requires a battery to be
changed so everything that we buy is a
10-year lithium battery smoke alarm yes
okay great because I think HUD just came
out with a requirement for everyone to
have a your sealed smoke alarm um in
each unit so yeah not to beat the dead
horse but um I support that
wholeheartedly and I I don't believe
that any uh retail outlet should carry
anything that requires a replacement of
a batter anymore just the technology is
there it's proven uh and when we install
that um we we have confidence that at
least for the next 8 to 10 years that
that smoke alarm is going to protect
that that Resident that we just
installed for so and of those 200 homes
uh we typically install about four three
to four smoke detectors so that's you
know we're looking 12200 smoke detectors
we go through every year uh to protect
our citizens how many smoke detectors
would you uh install in a one-bedroom
apartment so uh depending on the layout
uh you know depending on the layout and
if it's an apartment it probably would
be required to have a fire alarm system
as opposed to single station smoke
alarms
okay thank
you thank you councilwoman
Daniels all right seeing no other
questions thank you gentleman for being
here tonight uh and for your
presentation of course for all the work
that you do now go get some rest we
thank uh you know just on a on a parting
thought uh to leave on a on a high note
we appreciate council's commitment to
the fire Bureau um without you and
without our firefighters we would not be
able to properly Serve and Protect uh
the citizens and uh every year that I've
come down here Council been gracious
with the budget uh and you know you see
that as the dollars and cents we get to
see that from the reactions of the
citizens when we're assisting them at 2
o'clock in the morning so we appreciate
it thanks for your
support moving on with our agenda the
next order of business will be the
budget for the Bureau of police
be a little easier this be a little EAS
what's
that good evening gentlemen uh whenever
you're ready if you could just introduce
yourselves uh give an overview of your
department and then whatever present
presentation you have feel free to get
started right bear with me for one
minute and I have
hand and then set some handouts I mean
most of it is a PowerPoint that we
presented you earlier uh pay
justifications which uh we got a little
tied up today which I didn't get a
chance to get out uh job description for
the sport and Outreach
coordinator um and then some recruiting
posters and stuff in there as well I
have some
uh chips that have the uh obviously our
logo on them and then on the back side
has the uh QR code for the
recruiting it's in there
C
where we
were engaged in a shootout down on um
Cameron Street in the city of Harrisburg
so he was apprehended unfortunately he
um succumbed to his injuries so we were
my guys have been up every since Sunday
most of them trying to apprehend this
person and it's all for the protection
of the citizens of our great City
uh good evening deputy chief young uh
obviously commissioner is here with me
um we have Captain Martin who's in
charge of our human for Patrol
Division Captain mcgar seated right
behind me he's in charge of the
technical services division DC Young can
you pull your yeah yeah all the
paperwork sorry uh Captain wheen sitting
in the back row he's in charge of our
criminal investigation Division and I
think everybody knows Captain wer we
were down here last night for theet
contract um so the first slide obviously
this is our proposal uh what you see on
the slide right now is the or chart for
the Bureau of police not to get too deep
into it but it is headed by the uh
police commissioner uh followed by
myself and then four captains you see
the various divisions um this or chart
is from last year what we do is we
revisit this and we'll redo this again
uh next month to add uh to make the
adjustments that we made throughout the
year
next slide uh you'll see the total
budget uh so if we do a comparison
between 21 or between 2024 and 2025 uh
last year's budget was
2,424
53174 uh this year's budget is 20,
479,000
all right next slide you'll see the the
uh departmental uh diversity uh this is
how the Department's laid out we have
currently um 126 uh males 35 females uh
then you see the racial complement uh
125 are white 23 are African-American 10
Hispanic and then three Asian uh we also
have on this Slide the language is
spoken uh read or understood by the
police department uh we can also add on
there which I found out today we have a
uh someone who speaks French uh someone
who speaks guy and someone who speaks T
I know I mispronounced
that so sorry about that but yeah so we
can add those three to the list as
well all right next slide yep curveent
position totals uh you'll see it on the
slide up there the budgeted numbers on
your uh left hand side we have a total
of 194 budgeted positions uh of those
positions which you see up there we have
a total of 161 which are currently
filled leaving US 33 vacancies uh the
biggest vacancy obviously is the patrol
officer spot um which I'll get into a
little later um and then I will tell you
that
December uh we tried to fill the parking
enforcement uh spots uh did some
interviews we offered two positions uh
they declined uh so that leaves us back
to it was in-house right uh well it went
through the in-house phase so we it was
it was posted in internally there were
no biders on that and then what we did
is we after that process we posted
externally is where we got applicants
for that so we had two people that that
actually we offered uh jobs to uh they
turned those jobs down so we'll start
the health process again um in h January
and then at the U the director community
relations uh we after a couple
interviews we were able to fill that
spot uh that individual starts on
December 23rd
all right again total vacancies uh this
year was particularly uh was
particularly challenge for all division
with forced overtime for officers
supervisors and uniform Patrol to cover
the districts we had officers working
seven days a week uh for coverage and
then csas were working six days a week
to to attend the community events uh
what you see on the slide there it goes
through the first quarter of
2025 uh so um we know in January that we
have two detectives and one patrol
officer retiring we know in February we
have another sergeant retiring which
creates additional vacancies on that uh
that list as well um the numbers on the
graph are known at the time of the
currently right now what uh what it
doesn't include and where we have a big
problem is the people with less than
five years leaving the department for
various reasons I can tell you in 2022
we had four in 2025 or sorry in
2023 we had five and in 2024 this year
alone we had eight so they're the ones
that are unaccounted for on that list um
and it's for various reasons why they
leave uh some of it's money uh some of
it would be the uh the shift option that
we run right now which we be exploring
that um but we are still losing the the
people with less than five years
experience uh All Things Considered if
you look at the bottom it says 18
additional off officers and detectives
could retire in 225 after 20 years
completion of service so that's the one
that if if everybody with 20 years of
service decided to retire you would have
there would be 18 additional spots on
the
budget um Staffing levels are critical
low or critically low at this time uh so
we'll be looking in going into 2025 at
some
reorganization uh of the bureau to fill
those basic needs um so we'll be looking
at that we we're going to explore some
different Staffing options for each
division to align which aligns with the
city of Harrisburg and the fop contract
uh on a positive note the commission
commer we made uh after the last hiring
process we made um he made conditional
officers offers to four people uh three
out of four pass the remaining tests um
and then they'll be in the hack of
police the hack police academy in
January uh again Personnel vacancies
which we covered we had five retirements
last year we covered the eight
resignations and then currently the four
in the inhouse um in the proposed 2025
budget uh again these are the vacancies
which we covered on the slide two
lieutenants Sergeant two detectives one
forensics officer and 23 officers what
we did knowing that we're not going to
be able to fill those positions in 2025
or not all them uh what we did uh to uh
have a little fiscal responsibility is
for the two Lieutenant spots we funded
we half funded those uh which was a
savings of 98,3
one7 one Sergeant spot that's currently
open right now was half funded $
46,6
7.70 savings two detective spots knowing
that we're going to pick up two
detectives uh positions uh in uh January
and we won't be able to fill four next
year we zeroed those out savings on that
was
$175,200
$39.95 um and then we zero funded two of
the police officer spots which is $1
12,462 20 savings total savings on that
was
$71,900 extended two offers and that'll
be uh that'll take place we'll start
that again back in January or yeah we'll
start that in January 2025 I spoke about
the three uh the 10 spots which was
asked for the police officer trainees um
the obviously the police side of hiring
for the city is not the same as as
others is we can't run an internal bid
process such as asme does to fill these
vacancies um were required by civil
service and mopc rules to run through uh
the plethora of tests that we have to go
through um so I mean it's it's a little
different to become a police officer and
probably even a firefighter than it
would be to become say a part of the
enforcement R um and then again the uh
the last one on the previous stream was
a director of community relations at
engagement um and that individual will
start on December
23d uh recruiting and promotions um the
next test uh our current testing cycle
opened up in November uh for a July 2025
hiring um
class physical fitness and a written
test will be administered on February
23rd uh what we do uh is on each cycle
is we'll collect names uh and emails so
we can reach out to people um when the
testing cycle opens um and what we what
we had when we started or before this
testing cycle actually opened is we had
193 individuals who requested uh to
receive notification the uh the testing
CLE since it opened we've had 33 that
have completed the short application for
the testing um what we're in the process
of trying to explore and this isn't
something new but we're trying to
revisit it uh different um recruiting
options such as laterals uh separate act
120 list and then uh preference points
for uh residents or city employees so
there there're the things we'll be
looking at in order to accomplish a lot
of that what we got to do is we got to
reduce Civil Service rules in city or to
make that happen
uh yep Grand fund positions we have
three grand fund positions uh what you
see up there pccd the VIP Grant uh
through the end of 2025 will cover the
support and Outreach coordinator at
55,000 and then the gvi project manager
at 65 the LL Grant um is good to the end
of 2025 and that's $45,000 for the
evidence uh custodian total
reimbursement of salaries through the
grants is 165,000
what you see on this U budget year
comparison salaries and wages is
41400 is basically the three-year
comparison of salaries uh as well as a
percentage increase uh in the 2025
proposed budget you'll see or yeah 2025
proposed budget you see the salary is
13,9
29,40 which is a 3.8% increase uh from
2024 and I'll explain to you how that
worked next
all right so we talked about uh in the
2024 budget uh the support and Outreach
coordinator was listed as a part-time
position uh we were proposing to make
that full uh a full-time position in
2025 uh and again the salary is fully
covered by the the
grant uh pay raises um so contractual
fop is a 3.5% pay raise and then the
asme employees are a 3% pay raise what
we're proposing would be a 4% pay raise
for those individuals that you see on
the screen commissioner myself for
Captain Special Assistant to the
commissioner and the police substation
manager uh the main reason for at least
the first six uh is the fop contract is
a 3.5% to keep those jobs or these jobs
where people wish to do those and keep
them filled is is if we stay in line
with the fop contract that sort of kind
of keeps the the the Gap so to speak
about the same
so to be clear you're talking about the
4% proposed raises for
commissioner you for captain and special
assistance with the commissioner and the
substation manager so yes I explained
the first six so or sorry it would be
the first it' be the commissioner myself
in for TS is where that that fop
contract is a three 3.5% pay race that's
where that 4% pay race is to maintain
that Gap okay continue all
right um
of course you heard Chief Airline and
the commissioner say I mean we're when
something happen in the city uh it was
an election year A lot of times what
you'll end up seeing would be uh we're
there regardless if we're on call or not
um what we do is once every six weeks
we're on a on call basis so we become um
we become the person that has to make
the decisions uh for the city when they
come in or at least for the police
department when they come in so during
that that on all week basically we're
working for two weeks straight we're not
entitled to any overtime I don't think
anybody really complaining about it but
we're not entitled to any overtime um so
that takes its toll again on on the
officers or the The Command Staff
individuals as well as their families so
I can tell you that at least one of us
have small children not myself um but we
have smaller children and we have to
sort of kind of those events that we
would normally be able to attend uh
being on call that stuff gets gets
pushed aside so we're to make ourselves
available and respond as
needed um for the special assistance the
commissioner a reason for the 4% pay
increase would be the uh the main reason
would be that uh this person controls
the budget uh they handle all everything
budgetary for us purchases they track
the expenditures they track uh anything
budget related um and this is how we get
to um to the budget that we've come up
uh this person is very important to uh
in this whole process I can tell you
that this is the first time that I've
gone through it uh it was very
challenging for me and uh they um they
have they have a grip on what we're
doing um the next person would be the
police substation manager and a lot of
these positions what you're going to see
is we had gaps or we had jobs in need
field and then what we what we were able
to do is look at the the people in these
positions and then basically load these
duties on top of so and they took them
willingly um but uh so the uh the police
substation manager uh the additional
duties we added to uh this person was to
create yeah to this position was to
create submit and track divisional
purchase request uh develop used uh
systems for tracking divisional
expenditures um they track the animal
control purchases uh they assist in
event coordination uh including
designing Distributing digital printouts
um Community uh they post on the
community service Facebook page uh they
manage special projects for the
community services division um and then
they assist with special events in
person after hours they assist with the
collecting and manage of statistical
data so uh these people uh they put in a
lot of time over and above their normal
hours so they're here they're available
all the
time on the slide uh right now you'll
see these proposed uh pay increases we
would like to move up the accreditation
manager the courtly aison special events
coordinator crime analyst there's two of
them up to 70,000 and the confidential
secretary to the deputy chief to 55
again and we'll get into all the the
extra duties that they do um we can
start with the accreditation manager um
I can tell you that on top of being the
accreditation manager and all those
duties assign to that particular uh spot
the uh We've also lumped in there they
act as the bureau's report management
system manager and the absence of the
current one that we have uh she's been
out for the last six months so we've had
her fill in um and she's done a wonder
she did that before um but she filled in
there um she actually lay leaz on
between the city of Harrisburg it
department and the Bureau for any it
related problems um she designs and
completes the bu annual and quarterly
report so the documents that we re
receive and post uh she's the one that
writes those um she manages our
self-reporting system she's a system
administrator for Cobra uh and Super
Cobra she manages crime watch
posts um she manages the bureau's crime
mapping through crime
watch uh she does all the UCR Iver
submissions and the importance of that
would be that opens uh opens reduces
Insurance's cost and and uh and it opens
us up to where we can we can obtain more
grants um we have to we're required now
to run a multiactor authentification so
she's the the police department's point
on that uh we had to switch non-traffic
forms she she's the point on that
um she's available again all the time
for calls emails to come in whenever
needed um this job or this position
could easily be separated into three
current positions since um I went on zip
recruiter and I will tell you the
average salary of police uh
accreditation manager is uh
8,629 uh
dollars special events uh and Court
liaison special events in addition to
all the other court Rel related duties
and uh invoicing and everything else
that she does um what she took on uh was
the uh she manages her what this
position now is advantages uh
recruitment of police officers for the
bureau creates a digital applications
Flyers social media uh articles
advertisements uh sources the
applications um for uh for advertising
recruiting job sites uh actively engages
and uh follows up with the interested
applicants manages the uh the
applications to include collection of
forms of test scheduling she'll come in
when we test and manage all that stuff
uh manages the physical ility test a
written exam um she has the ability or
she was uh she received training and
she's a an official notary uh to the uh
to the Commonwealth um this year could
be this position now could be four
different positions um and and again we
use zip recruiter court with the Aon if
we were looking for what of that
Nationwide the average salary is 76,000
879 here locally in Harrisburg would be
75893 um for the special events uh
Coordinator would be 51 across each
recruiter would be 51 across each and
then a notary be 64 Nationwide and then
63
um and again I mean she she spends a lot
of time when we hit recruiting Cycles
she spends a lot of time answering
emails attending to phone calls in
addition to what she usually do I can
tell you right now it's Court week um
and she's constantly uh receiving emails
and and phone calls from the uh District
Attorney's
Office uh the two crime analyst what we
did uh C currently has one crime crime
analyst um this individual um she came
to us uh through pacy 12 years ago and
brought all of her connections with her
uh when she came here she took a pay cut
um and and and talking to her I think
itd be talk to her she she really likes
what she's doing uh but she did take a
pay cut to come here and she's built uh
out of CID um and I'll give you one
instance uh recently we had a child rap
um she was able to narrow that down and
put us to where we needed to go uh in
order to find the person uh that
followed through with that investigation
uh she's done a a very good job built a
lot of uh of additional resources and
contacts uh which which helped with the
uh the investigations currently going on
in C uh she also uh is attached into the
lprs and when somebody sends an email
what she'll end up doing is she'll run
that person and then give us all the
information if we're looking for a
particular individual for a crime so uh
she's very good at what she does um from
July 2023 to 2024 she assisted in
1,98 cases uh with multiple people um
with her skill set uh a crime analyst in
central Pennsylvania could make easily
$70,000 all right the second one crime
analyst and she's really not she's
titled is a crime analyst because that's
what she was hired underneath of uh she
she has taken on a plethora of other
duties um she still does a crime analyst
thing um and she was mainly hired in for
the community service division um for
the the information that runs through um
through the school district and some
other places um since then uh she has
taken on um utilizes the computer uh the
databases and Records management system
conduct research for statis statistical
analysis involved in all aspects of of
police grants um she we have four gr
three grants we have four grants but
three of the grants she actually uh
takes care of and if it wasn't for her
we would uh in the scheme of things the
police grants aren't a major project for
City so um in order to make that process
move a little faster for us in order to
get those grants moving she is taking
that on and she's become the lead on all
the grants that we have
um so she makes recommendations for
investigative uh summarizes and I gave
you this in the in the in the packet of
of stuff that it was just handed out
so um if you want to follow along izes
maintains confidentiality aderes to
applicable laws peers in court as an
expert witness prepares uh informational
reports for public release assist a
public information officer uh in the
oversight of uh and management of
postings information provides uh
oversight of specialized databases uh
assist in reporting the Nish UCR data so
she's the backup person to that uh she
oversees management of all police grants
um she uh she manages the financial and
ancillary records pertaining to police
grants provide statistical data again uh
this person came to us through the uh
National Center for missing exploited
children eight years ago um she took a
pay cut to be here
um so she's been heavily involved since
the Inception of the gbi strategy uh
she's the one that actually was able to
secure the grant do all the grant
paperwork and then get that moving to
where it is is currently she made all
the contacts with the York City Police
Department uh York City da
Philadelphia national network for safe
communities um she's coordinated through
the all the different law enforcement
and uh Court areas um she's secured anou
from Dolphin County Pro probation uh For
assistance with gvi strategy and the
implementation for software um she's
involved in developing and submitting
formal applications for budgets for
pccd uh she drafted another MOA for Gang
Related software um she handles uh all
re reporting requirements to pccd for
the grants handles clearity requests
um and then she uh manages social media
sites for CSD and HPD um she's available
again after hours weekends uh you give
her a call um what we did again looked
at this the average uh average Grant
manager in the city of Harris or in
Pennsylvania 65,0 819 the average in
Harrisburg would be
77,78 uh and then again crime analyst
with her specific skill set would range
about $770,000
um the last one you see up there is a
confidential secretary to the deputy
chief we were proposing to raise that
to5 5,000 um in addition to her curent
the other duties the duties she was
hired for um what we did is uh the
additional duties that she's taken on
would be the Narcan coordinator uh she's
coordinated the ordering and tracking
maintenance of Narcan um report of Naran
to the uh to the bureau and outside
agencies researches all the RMS uh drug
overdoses for entering into Odin were
required to enter those desks into the
state system last year loone number 119
she researches and tracks LCB complaints
attend roll calls uh conduct searches uh
in reference to normal
inquiries
um she manages several different
rosters uh she monitors the autopsy
reports for overdoses and then
distributes narcans uh Naran for work
hours I will tell you we also looked
across the city Budget on this one uh
the city recently hired a uh one
Department in theity hired an individual
with similar uh job description uh at
about
$60,000 so what we did was we took that
comparison as
well again any one of these individuals
if we leave them are very critical to
what we
do all right uh Social Security uh
you'll see there's a decrease in Social
Security 37,1
12684 um and that's due uh mainly to the
reduced uh reduced employees of the open
um the police pension plan um I give you
the Brian McCutchen answer um because
somebody asked why that went down um and
I I couldn't tell you exactly so
uh maybe he can get up and talk to us
sure but no uh his explanation was um
was for the police pension plan the
city's minimal Municipal obligation uh
to the p significantly decreased which
you see on the screen uh there are
various actuary calculation factors in
uh determined by a professional actuary
firm Conrad seagull go into the
calculation worksheet provided by the
actuary including normal uh cost rate
percentages any amortization
requirements and uh any determined
credits go against the total Financial
requirements the actuary also looks at
the invest uh resulting in
return performance of the pension plan
for 2025 the MMO theorization fell below
1.6 million in the credit related to
negative unfunded liability increased uh
to
49423 resulting in that reduction um
that is a number that we uh we don't set
um but I I know somebody had asked that
one one of the that's the best answer I
got Brian is present today maybe he can
elaborate a little better than what I
can
the short answer that when the
police when the
police okay when the police pension plan
is doing well that means that the city
does have to put uh money in there as
much money but when it goes below a
certain level then the city has to put
um money in there is that Cor
yes nothing to do with
providers sorry Brian no I was I was
kind of wondering if you refer to me uh
good evening everybody Brian McCutchen
accounting manager uh Bureau of
financial management um uh deputy chief
he said that very well wrote um
basically there for the prior year MMO
there was a bigger amortization
requirement required was 1.6 million
it's not it's zero for for next year and
then last year there was a credit that
related to the and this is a tougher one
the unfunded um when it's a negative
liability that's like saying it's an
asset so there was a there was no credit
last year but there's a credit for next
year so when you combine the two the 1.6
and almost uh $500,000 credit that
reduces the amount of obligation the
city has to make uh for the police
pension plan those two main factors we
what we do we we work out the payroll uh
the MMO for next year is always based on
what the city projects for its payroll
for current year 2024 so we calculate
that but the actuary sends us a
worksheet and works in all those uh
Nuance type factors that are in in the
Actuarial world not not so much uh on on
our end but you just run the numbers
through that and then that's what
determines the the ultimate
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MMO if anybody's not clear I'll be happy
to refresh it if if need
be that's why I went to
him all
right
next yep so that slide um so we also had
in the 2025 budget um there was total
saving
26,500 basically the uh the contractor
the a for a pilot program with the
school crossing guards ended in uh in
June and the contract was not renewed uh
which the crossing guards went from uh
from the police department back to the
school district uh so we we are not we
don't have that funding source or have
to worry about that uh funding need the
school district uh the crossing guards
and then the gbi coordinator obviously
that was converted from a part-time to a
full-time position into the budget so
that that took it out of the
temporary that's Grant fund correct gvi
coordinator Grant fund yes and just just
real fast not to cut you off about the
uh Crossing in the school guards I just
want to make sure U be clear about this
you know there's always been an issue
with um rsos and the schools and um this
is not Harrisburg Police Department
that's going into the school district
correct correct just make it sure that's
it
I ask what you mean by that not because
um people thought that they would have
to come in front of council and I was
like I don't even think that these are
our officers this is something that the
school district new police
yes the school turn your mic on
sir I'm sorry M president but the school
district is funding their own Force I
think they're starting off with four
officers in 30 something
guards yeah it's not yeah I was just
making sure that it wasn't um harbur
it's not harbur police right the only
the only thing that we have to do with
them is to train them things like that
and help them that's something you guys
are going to participate in okay yes and
that's basically
it all right uh up on the screen uh we
we covered the temporary the next one
I'll take a couple minutes I'm going to
explain this one uh you'll see it's not
listed as 900,000 uh in 2024 budget this
increased to 1.1 million uh what this
budget line does is is used to pay uh
for police external employment uh what
you're not seeing is the revenue side of
this uh and the simple explanation if
you would call it is this is that if we
go out and work external employment um
the invoice get sent by our courtly
aison special events coordinator to the
vendor who we work for and that could be
uh you name it um it could be doing
Riverfront details that that we have an
outside vendor um on the other side of
that is I won't I won't get paid if I'm
working one of those external
Employments until the vendor pays the
city so that budget line should never
really uh fluctuate too much uh
obviously we're going to show the
expenditure side but the revenue side
should go up as well um in addition to
that the city's also going to make a
five% for me showing up in a uniform or
20% for me showing up in the uniform and
we have equipment associated with it so
the city's actually making money off of
that one this budget line is again used
for the
expenditures um Services uh you'll see
the increase to the advertising what we
did with that was there we added uh some
money for law enforcement jobs it went
from 21 to 3,000 we added another $4,000
for community service uh events from CSD
so a $200 increase for Brenda over in
duplication and then one of our biggest
things we found this year when we were
upside down on was postage uh and that's
basically as a result of act four of
2022 which is where we got to send DNA
samples out for testing for every
missing person uh what we were doing is
we were getting an average monthly bill
of $700 from nms Labs um so obviously
$2,000 wasn't going to fund that
properly so that's why you see the
overage on that or the increase for 2025
uh UPS and FedEx increases as well um
the uh maintenance service contract uh
just minor increases for uh annual
increases uh the biggest one on that
um uh we repositioned Cody Pathfinder
from a uh from the uh software portion
of the budget and put it into here
that's why you see an increase in that
uh we added a line in here to uh for
neighborhood dispute settlement uh
mediation services uh for drone support
maintenance and then CBR uh celebrate we
got through a grant which we'll end up
picking that tab up uh hopefully in
2026 but we have to in case it it
doesn't go because the grant was
extended uh in case it doesn't uh
doesn't apply we have to make sure we
have money budgeted for that we also
removed 32,000 from the budget for body
warn cameras which that'll be picked up
through the LL Grant um through
pccd you see you'll see an overall
increase of 15,520 on that again the M
re reason for that would be the
reposition of Cody into uh this budget
line uh Services again uh training
increased uh the main reason for that is
this is a year 2025 would be the year
where we got to do CPR and first aid
training for the bureau there were
$6,000 in there uh promotional testing
which we'll be getting into in um in
July round about uh we looked at 2023 we
paid $8,500 uh for promotional testing
um so what we did was we budgeted 10,000
for that crime analyst training went up
from 4,000 to
111 um and then with the pickup of uh of
sellbrite um what we did was we added a
training in there for Tower dumps and
area searches for the cell phone data
obtained um which is 2650 and then drone
operator license of 175 contracted
services to mean increase on that would
have been the city's portion of the
co-responder salaries um
went up in that one and then memberships
there was minor increases to
memberships uh humane society which we
spoke about last night um we increased
that budget to make sure that we got
enough in there to covered if by chance
we have to start using that heavily and
we can't uh we can't come up with the
alternative areas to take the animals um
but uh we increased that by 20 uh by
25,000 you'll see a decrease in the uh
City Island monthly pass parking passes
for the co-responder and that's mainly
because other arrangements have been
made for them you'll see an increase in
$15,000 for National Night Out and then
the bottom two are uh basically search
software and we're trying to add
licenses for those and mainly for C and
some other stuff all right uh we spoke
about the Humane Society and the
increases to that um again software the
reduction of 25 400 for that and that's
mainly because this is where we pull Cod
at and reposition to the other part of
the
budget uh supplies and increases you'll
see uh the increases right there for
subscription uh I Pro went up on us uh
from 3,000 to 3,300 minor increase we
added power time to that power time is
our scheduling uh so with the main frame
hopefully going away here soon uh this
was our uh scheduling system as well as
um subpoena system um it's hopefully
covered by the Jag Grant but uh we have
to make sure there's money budgeted in
there in case it doesn't get picked up
by the Jag Grant offices thermal paper
increased by almost $1,000 we add an
additional $10,000 for CSD events uh
Hoop It Up major prep barbecues things
of that nature um we added another
almost $2,000 for CSD uh promo and
handout increases and then we added a
line in there of $5,000 for major time
seed uh food water for officers or
whatever we needed to do while we're out
there um personal safety you'll see an
increase on that um the uh less lethal
Munitions went up uh by about 600 bucks
uh we want to purchase what's called
battle boards basically what they are is
what the fire department uses the track
where your personnel are at a major
scene um so we' like to purchase uh at
least two of those uh and then we want
to replace ballistic helmets for the
warrant service unit ,000 the increase
to the um wearing apparel was uh for an
increase in honor guard uniforms from 2
to
4,000 uh the vehicle parts and supplies
the modems uh just the annual increase
and then we got we were able to secure a
truck a couple years ago off what's
called a 1033 program or the uh Federal
Surplus and then we would uh need some
work done to it which we're going to try
to do in house to BMC and uh that $5,000
would go for the work for BMC to that
um budget line uh with office equipment
uh we increased this budget line uh
you'll see reason why we increased it
the increase was for the purchase of
additional chairs for the forensics uh
in addition to we want to start
replacing bicycles um we got donations
for bicycles uh earlier in the year and
we're going to try to start replacing
some of those cubicles for the record
Center $4,000 in five workstations uh
and a locker for the street CRI unit of
23,000
all right if you see at the bottom
that's currently what our street crimes
uh unit office space looks like uh we
were proposing to uh $15,000 for a
general contractor to come in and
remodel that um that and I'm not sure if
you remember but that used to be uh
Night Court when we had our
communication Center here or the uh the
booking side of that um that was uh
since we that's no longer housed here
Street crims units back there but we'
like to REM mod all that space
in the 15,000 we may be able to save
that because we may be able to get da
Baker and crew to actually come in and
do the work for us but we wanted to make
sure that we had something in there to
cover
that uh you had ask about the vehicle
equipment um there's the vehicle
purchases for the uh for 2025 or
proposed for
2025 um police SUVs uh we' like to buy
two of those um K9 trucks current K9
trucks are 2017 Dodge Rams
their past their life expectancy um and
we're hoping to replace one of them uh a
year for the next couple years until
they're uh to they're all replaced we
like to purchase we have a trailer that
the current Dodge truck doesn't pull due
to the motor
size
um due to the current motor size we' be
looking to replace that truck and then
the animal control uh vehicle uh the one
we would be replacing in 20 84 F150 and
again it's well past this life
expectancy um you had to ask about the
uh the increase to the budget um from
from this year to next year um and I'll
give you overall 2021 we had
333,000 assigned to that budget uh 2022
was 264,000 change 2023 was 301 uh and
then last year that budget number was
cut prior to coming in um by the current
business administrator at that point so
uh which allowed us to only purchase
three vehicles at that
time um other Capital
expenses uh we're uh we're looking to
buy two drones and this will be a joint
um purchase with the fire department um
you'll see some of the examples of why
we want those drones uh I think if you
spoke with Chief anine uh and those guys
last night they had the Drone up um at
the fire scenes um
so I mean they become valuable assets uh
for for various reasons
um so uh evidence shelving we'd like the
uh the evidence room was moved from the
basement to the first floor or is in the
process of being moved um we need to and
I'll show you on the next screen here in
a minute is we need to replace those
shelves
uh if you see what it looks like so we
need to replace those shelves which were
in the process between last year and
this year
so all right um it was a total 100,000
we decreased it by 25,000 from 24 to 25
so all right uh the next couple slides
basically are just comparisons you'll
see um in the different budget sets
between 24 and the proposed 25 uh you'll
see where the increases and decreases
are you'll see the overall for this one
for friends paying friends benefits is
down 1.4 million um
next uh communication subtotals you'll
see it went up 1108 and we spoke about
all those uh those different uh subsets
in there um Professional
Services uh the arbitration Services we
I didn't increase but we don't set that
one uh you'll see that there's a slight
increase for the psychological medical
next
SL uh lot of screen or set by uh by the
city uh not by the police department um
but we spoke about all those as
well covered those as
well next
slide right we spoke about the capital
there so again I gave it to you you got
the Powerpoint um I had a question for
you where the maintenance and repairs
that
15,520 20 cent 26 Cents with that be
exactly for the
storage I mean um right here on
maintenance and repair utilities and
maintenance and
repairs
um the increase you have uh the
maintenance contract for the F that's
what you were holding to the side that
you said you may be able to do
yes yes that's that line right yeah
okay uh the grants uh we currently have
uh we currently have four grants and
just to give you a brief update VIP
Grant um we initially got our funding
500,000 which covers the uh gbi
strategy um that Grant was extended
through June 2025 Dolphin County early
this year received a VIP Grant with for
three years to enhance the gbi strategy
we're a pastor recipient of that we got
approximately 480,000 funding and that
cover salaries for project manag support
out Leach coordinator credible message
training which is happening tomorrow um
gang scope software gvi consultant um
and so far uh Adrian has been able to
get um reimbursement uh to the city of
approximately 280 and I spoke about her
earlier she's one of those seven people
that were looking to push her salary up
she's paid for herself with the
reimbursement of the money that she's
coming back on the grads would that be
I'll ask later I'll ask you what what
position that is so that would be the
crime analyst for the Commissioner's
Office the two that was two proposing
that right there's two crime analysts
yeah but I mean she's in and I talked
about her as the grand person or taking
over the grant for the city so the money
you see that's being reimbursed to the
city through these grants she's the one
that's actually Rebecca's busy and I
mean for us to get priority in what
we're doing this is how we decided to I
don't want to say go round it because
Rebecca's involved in it but this is how
we decided to conquer that problem in
order to get us to move forward with
these grants so um local law enforcement
Grant support uh basically you see what
that is um that's funding for the uh
retention bonuses for officers advence
custodian salary technology improvements
uh this one again was um was extended
through 2025 this one we received
um we were able to start purchasing
stuff with the grant earlier this year
even though it's about a year and a half
into it so again this is this is the
stuff that we had to backtrack on in
order to try to get moving so that we
could we could do these things um you
see what it covers uh and again it's
approximately $290 $90,000 it's come
back uh we're we're looking and we were
talking about some of the uh the cameras
and stuff like that the the reallocation
of money into here is where we would be
looking between uh probably between the
LL and the gvip is to move money around
in order to purchase those cameras and
stuff like that so we're we're already
working that which cameras well the CCTV
sorry CCT CCTV cameras and and the
license plate readers we're in the
process of rework that um to to get
those to get that additional equipment
we
need next Slide the gbi gun violence and
investigation prosecution you see the
amount that we were awarded again in
2023 this year covers the overtime for
saturation details porch lights uh
doorbell cameras uh with the
installation and then sellbrite
um right now we're in the process trying
to find a contractor to install the uh
the the lighting within budget we've uh
we put it out for bid twice we can't
find somebody to keep it within budget
uh we just had a meeting on Friday uh
with several contractors so hopefully we
can get uh to uh to a budget that works
with the grant uh we already have the
doorbell cameras of PCH lights uh and
light bulbs so we're ready to move
forward with that we just need the
contractor in order to proceed which
we're hoping by February by first or
second quarter we can move forward with
that project and get those out into the
community how many homes will that cover
uh it's
135 for the cameras and I think we got
close to
200 uh fixtur and light
buls all right um the last one on that
screen would have been the uh the Jag
Grant um so that we're pass the
recipient on this uh we uh we got 5
2,346 for funding and that covered 50%
of the victim witness salary
contribution NIS crime watch uh Power
time Planet uh and then one Coba
license um operational highlights I
spoke about the gvi that we start moving
with that stuff I spoke about the LL
which we're able to uh purchase a backup
one with the gvip we able to get
sellbrite um we able to buy the stuff
for uh PCH lights and doorbell cameras
and then um we got the funding extended
to the end of 2025 the LL again we were
able to buy Pharaoh um uh retention
bonuses and then uh we were able to
throw in some uh saturation details and
some other stuff so those two grants uh
getting them moving has actually has
helped um so that's an operational
highlight we started two committees we
have an officer Wellness committee um
which basically is peer-to PE counseling
so there's officers that we have in
these groups uh we have a major incident
or something or if they're if they need
additional assistance uh we're able to
go to this this Core group of people and
they're able to address some of those
needs or at least try to get them
pointed in the right direction they deal
with anything from mental health to uh
to financial
to you name it so we're in the process
of bringing that up uh recruiting
committee we started that try to uh to
try to get uh more candidates and again
what I included into your packet uh was
obviously your poker chip you know
somebody a her job obviously we're hard
um I gave you again the the postcard on
the back side of the postcard that tells
you how to be a police officer uh and
again each one of them has the uh the QR
code um and they can call me directly
I'll be more than happy to talk to any
of
them would the is there any room for the
registration fee to be waved because
that can be issue sometimes yeah we've
done that so I mean that's
we've done it so it's usually somebody
that has taken a test and not
successfully completed we wave those
feeds to try to get them back up in the
door um and then if somebody's got some
sort of hardship all they got is let us
know we can weigh those so yeah that's
not a problem we need bodies we need
qualified bodies so um again we re uh
back to our operational highlights re
established the mountain bike unit uh
and I could go into great length and a
lot of this I'm trying to save you some
time
um but we were able to get was three
bikes
right so it was three bikes that we got
off Grant uh we refers a couple of the
older ones and then uh we got some
additional operators trained they come
in very handy bicycles mountain bikes so
um yeah we uh we able to get them
retrained they come handy for the
election details and the uh the
riverfront details and some of the other
details we run they're able to get those
around so it's become it's becoming
pretty good uh detail nice to see the
bikes back out rolling around uh crime
watch we were able to move that forward
to now we got public facing side can now
see uh crime mapping um through uh
through crime watch um that's all live
uh the gbi team um and we we spoke about
that a couple times but uh they they did
some sight to site visits uh Miami Dade
um and then down in York and then we
started the one stops and then we're
starting to move towards um they're
actually in the schools so I mean we
starting to move uh gain some traction
with that program uh and then the CSA
program and I think that Captain wer has
actually uh gave you the uh give you a
hand out for that one um they did a lot
of events in the course of 20124 I can
certainly read those for you if you'd
like me to um there's a there's a lot of
them from Community barbecues to um you
name it they were directing traffic they
were in schools uh I think they got now
established to the point where uh when
they got issues or problems that someone
calls them directly uh to try to get
some sort of resolution to to whatever
they may doing um so they've become a
valuable part of what we're doing and
it's it's actually helped
us um next slide would be our 2024 goals
uh our 2024
goals you see listed on the screen um
some of those goals we were successful
on others uh not so much um the recruit
and ret train or retain um the
recruiting we're able to get a couple in
at a time the retention part is where
where we uh where we don't have any luck
um and I'll tell you I mentioned those
eight um eight people that had left with
under five years experience um we hired
two in January and put them to the
academy they graduated in July by August
they had already been picked up and
moved on to another the department so
that's how that's how rapidly people are
moving through through
here
um oh I was going to say um my apologies
before you and um commissioner Carter
head out um we have a resident here that
wanted to address uh number six if you
had a minute uh we could speak in the
hallway perhaps okay thank
you um currently we have four in the
academy um so they're set to graduate
later this month and then we opened up
uh we'll send three and this is a
recruiting side we'll send three to the
academy in um which in January which I
spoke about uh recruitment efforts are
going on are ongoing so I think we
succeeded at least in half of that right
now cease operation the utilization of
the Metro System um we've done
everything we could possibly do on on
the bureau side we've moved all reports
the only thing we have left to do would
be to move the roll side out uh so I'd
say that we we were successful in that
one um The increased uh provide
increased police information to Citizens
um second quarter of this year we went
live with the the crime mapy feature um
so that's out there on crime watch the
remodel of the police Lobby hopefully
that'll be done by the second
quarter of
2025 um maintain a homicide clearance
rate 22 2022 National average is 52% so
far this year we're at
68% um which is 15 out of
22 uh which leads me into the next one
reduce gun violence uh I don't think we
did so well this year um we of the and
we'll continue to work on that above the
22 homicides that we have 17 involved
Firearms so and if we can work on
increasing technology such as the
cameras lprs um and and the gvi strategy
I think that's going to help
uh get to where we need to go with that
um and then the uh the integration of
the csas into the city um and again I
mean I gave you a list I can certainly
read it but for time sake I'm gonna not
go through the the the lengthy part of
that um the csas have handled 1,137
calls as of December 4th and that's
calls ranging from uh you name it that
they were on so you see our 2025 goals
um
what we intend on doing um obviously a
lot of these look similar but we're
going to meet and we're going to develop
a five-year strategic plan which will
have the metrics to it um and then
actually we're going to end up
publishing that we're also going to do
that with the gvi strategy so that you
would have a a uh a document or we would
have a document with the metrics to see
if we achieve that or not so that's
that's what's coming up in 2025 but you
see our 2025 goals that we have
um as far as the questions go all right
I think that uh in budget set one or
budget questions one the significant
budget increases uh I explained that
through the slides through the various
slides uh departmental diversity uh we
covered all that uh slide four and five
vacancies was covered on the PowerPoint
presentation um we covered the uh Grant
update uh special
projects uh arpa projects we don't have
anything specifically arpa funded
although the pccd grants for LL and gbi
are funded through arpa
funds so uh new positions we covered
that uh the anticipated impact of the
support and Outreach coordinator uh
shifting this position to a full-time uh
will enhance the bureau's uh the bureau
to expand the gbi strategy by enhancing
collaborating uh collaboration between
the project manager credible Messengers
uh local Partners this position is
primarily responsible for establishing
nurturing maintaining partnership with
agencies that can assist and redirecting
and supporting positive behaviors and
I've also included a job description for
you for that one uh the does it uh does
it the
2025 budget align with
2024 um if you take a look at it the
current budget shows increases in
several smart projects inflation annual
increases by vendors current year-to
date totals reflected approxim 60 60% of
the budget is expended so far uh what
this does not account for is invoices
that have not cleared um and there are
budget lines in there uh that were added
to cover uh to cover things we uh we
received through grants several of these
budget lines are not set by by The
Bureau and are showing either low or
high percentages of budget amount used
thus far additionally several uh
purchases were budgeted for 2024 which
were not made due to extremely high cost
that were put off till
2025 uh depending on the pricing we'll
take a look at it at that we try to be
mindful of what we're doing when it
comes to spending money uh and then
we're able to reuse some existing items
in order to continue to decrease um
decrease spending uh some of the biggest
areas that we had increases in budgets
would be for the community related
events uh National Night Out uh and some
other events that we we budget in
there um rolls exceeding 2% covered that
um the departmental highlights we had
those up
there bear with me while get to the next
one um performance metrics
um uh so we talked about that again with
the goals for 2024 and then
2025
uh uh for the police department on
budget set one specifically uh we talked
about the the vehicle purchases which I
showed you where the four or the five
vehicles we're looking to replace uh
again I gave you the the budget between
21 and
20 four or five um Mr McCutchen was kind
enough to give us the uh explanation for
the police
pension
um so that would have been all budget
one set questions and then budget two
set um we asked about about the uh the
compliment for the the police department
uh there's 79 police officers 10
corporals 11 sergeants three lieutenants
four forensics investigators 17
detectives four captains one Deputy
Chief and a
commissioner um which was covered on
Slide Five uh we covered the bilingual
uh Community Services uh a program being
evaluated yes every program we have is
evaluated uh it could be every person
unit platoon division evaluated several
times a year and usually after uh
incidents uh for better performance uh a
Personnel task Duty an effort to
increase productivity this happens
regular and informal uh basis after
events uh after Action
reviews uh goals for the csas which I
listed there again I mean I can go back
through those if you would
like they they they covered a lot and
it's I mean it it's if you look at what
they've done over the course of this
year
yeah well that no uh what I gave you
guys is what you asked me for last night
when you said that it would be helpful
to see some of the things that they do
and I was like okay I got you so I
brought that down for all of you so and
what it is is a just a snapshot on
multiple different things that they
handle that they handle throughout the
year that they actually deal with each
and every day throughout the course of
you know throughout the course of a
month 365 days out of the year but I
took you what I wanted to show you uh I
took you from January all the way up
until today just to give you a snapshot
all these things and there's just
something it's a snapshot of everything
in there a little bit of this a little
bit of that so you start to get a grasp
as to what they're doing for this
community and and how they're
interacting and what their roles
actually are
um so you see the list of events that
they were they attended uh the goals for
2025 for the csas um continue to broaden
the reach of the csas to all aspects
this includes adding two csas to the gvi
credible Messengers uh continue to build
stronger Partnerships relations with hsd
uh the school district uh getting the
CSA uh sponsor mentorship program up
implemented in the school district
having the CSA continue fostering
relations relationships with the
community identifying partners and
strategies uh we took care of hiring the
new community relations director which
will bring her down once we uh she gets
her wheels up underneath there so to
speak uh she gets in the door and she
gets acclimated so that uh so that you
can see who she is um uh Community
continuing CSA sponsored community
barbecue events basketball flag football
fishing trips partnership with parks and
wrecks engagements uh with church
nonprofit organizations uh provide
excellent resources to Citizens uh we
talked about the filling of the parking
enforcement one vacancy and then as well
as the 10 police officer training
positions that's all that I
have open to any
questions and sorry I was so
longwinded no worries thank you for the
thorough presentation uh and for making
make sure you answered all the questions
that we did ask beforehand and getting
to us getting them to us in writing as
well as a PowerPoint it's appreciated
because it's it's easier for us to
follow along when we have those options
at the moment I don't have any questions
I'm going to send it back to our Public
Safety chair uh with councilman Jones
thank you um again thank you for the the
presentation it was another thorough one
however the question that I forgot to
submit to you as I'm looking at this
right and I'm not trying to stump you
but I do want to give an explanation for
um our listeners or viewers and
everything but um when we look at these
preditions and the proposed civilian um
management increases when we're talking
about um uh the 4% these weren't
included in the 4% this is the 2%
increas is am I correct you got it
up oh it should be I can't tell you
which SL um yeah yep
right yes they were not included in the
4% okay so 2% um only thing that I I see
that's missing is like what with their
can I say I don't want to say starting
salary yeah the base and
and 2024 salary and the reason why I act
again because you know um when I looked
up accreditation U manager about 45k
per year where' you look it up at online
for Pennsylvania yeah but what website
did you
use um and just kind of to answer your
questions I didn't go through and um all
of the positions are about $133,000
increase except for the cont
confidential secretary which I believe
was about $4,000
increase and it's just a it's just a
Google search like uh government
salaries okay and um it just shows that
like 45 but and and and again the only
reason why I'm asking because all of
these other proposed increases are the
same amount of
money for 70 70 70 70 right so
somebody's position is I will tell you
that those proposed salary increases are
less than one police officer salary so
across the board and if I looked at
their jobs and what they're currently
doing as compared to what they were
hired to do so if I look at the accredit
accreditation manager and I go okay so
they take care of all the accreditation
they do the research they make sure we
got policy they make sure we're we're
covered with everything and look at what
how that job has blossomed them to what
they're currently doing those those jobs
could very easily be two and three
positions that we have that we would
have to cover in the budget in order to
fill those if we're looking at two and
three positions at even a $50,000 or a
$440,000 pay rate you're still saving
money by the 70,000 as opposed to the 80
to 100,000 that you be spending on that
and that's that's sort of kind of what
we looked at is is the the additional
job duties that were laid into or placed
into that position uh again I mean the
the accreditation manager she's liaison
with the it so we got it related issues
she's dealing with that um if uh if the
RMS manager who's been out for a while
she's dealing with that in addition to
accreditation uh she's managing uh nver
UCR stuff uh which actually saves this
money um if I go down to the court the
aison special events coordinator uh
she's again doing multiple jobs she's a
notary which saves US money on that uh
she's also uh in addition to our normal
job I mean I could go on so basically
that that's all I was trying to get to
to come out um the reasoning for the
increase in in some of the roles that
they may be playing that can fill other
holes um you know within the department
I know some people are quadruple tasking
so and that's I mean that's exactly
right that's what they're doing and what
they do and and I can tell you
that two of those positions on that list
right there were current were previously
occupied by police officers so what the
what these uh what these spots do is
allow us to keep the police on the
street so and and again I mean as we get
these different jobs uh in for that we
need accomplish recruiting um uh we go
through grants I mean someone has to do
that and it's either going to be a
police officer civilian that group that
has actually or those positions have
actually assumed those duties and I mean
you're looking at each one of those
having two and three different job uh
jobs in them and again that's where
you're getting the cost setting measure
because I don't have we don't have to
add those into the budget as additional
positions which again and create those
additional salaries so connected okay
yeah I excuse me um my other questions
were answered I asked them pretty early
on um why has the department and stop
supporting the school district you
explained that and and also the 4%
raises so um I will pass it back to vice
president
green thank you councilman Rodriguez do
you have any questions or comments thank
you madam chair uh thank you gentlemen
for joining us this evening um one of
the things I did not see in this budget
was uh any line item for Chapel is he
still involved at all the chaplain yeah
yes yes and that's that that's already
taken care of that's already it's in
there yes and it's also Grant funded so
we get that reimbursed as well okay and
then um I understand how Miss vulmer may
be a bit overworked working on grants um
I just if there's some way we could work
out getting her more assistance this way
we could free up some of you guys'
assistance and other director heads
assistance because doubling the work
sometimes just seems a bit redundant and
um anyway we could just you know get the
taxpaying citizens more for their buck
that would be you know Buy in the sky um
then also you had alluded to the
fiveyear minimum for the training did we
come up cuz if you get the you know we
got some of the best training in the
area Carter can tell you that um and
they kind of nitpick they can't wait for
for you guys to come out of the whole
department and just nitpick them and
take them other places but that comes to
a cost with the city so if they leave
before the fiveyear requirement we're
just out of those funds do we develop a
mechanism at all where we can go after
those funds that's way we could recoup
at all we can let the law answer
that yeah they currently is uh through I
think it's m mopc where if they leave
before them we can apply for
reimbursement um
for I believe a portion of the money
that they would
have um owed the cost of the training so
that is something that we will start to
do more um as it be I wasn't aware that
there was that many but we will start to
look that reimbursement accumulate some
substantial money for the city so yeah
absolutely
um and then the current Department
situation commissioner Carter how do you
feel um your crew is working with the
new Renovations and having like the Bell
because I remember one time I came down
and it was just hard getting someone to
respond when I came down with a resident
is everything moving along a bit easier
now as things have transitioned while
Renovations taking place yes we looked
at things you pointed out things to us
and so we corrected those errors and so
now you know we're taking care of what
we need to be Tak taken care of awesome
thank you commissioner no further
questions thank you very much
councilwoman Ross thank you vice
president green thank you for being here
tonight um my questions were answered
through the presentation also I was
wondering why the the raise had been so
High um what uh kind of metrics or
reasoning was behind and you just
explained it so thank you that's it for
me thank you very much president
Bowers thank you um I have two questions
related to the
csas and then one question related to
the um pay raise justification
information that was shared so I'll
start with the csas um I I see a long
list of events and community activities
but do we have a total number of events
that the csas participated in for the
2024 year I can get you that number I
was giving you like the play byplay of
everything that they were doing and
there was a few additional things that
was left off the list that's uh kind of
City sponsored and whatnot that they
were doing but if you want to know the
complete number I can get that to you
yes I'm just curious and then it was
mentioned that two additional csas would
become credible Messengers or can you
explain that or clarify yes ma'am it's
not two additional csas out of the seven
csas that I have two of them have that
we have identified as being excellent uh
credible Messengers for the gvi who I
personally talked to and said yes we
will uh also assist the gvi team and we
will go to the credible messenger
training these are two individuals that
have been out in the streets in the
Community talking to people anyway um
just if it's if it's nothing more than
just a an ear to listen to them and to
offer up any sort of suggestions or
opportunities they've even gone as far
as uh start making contacts to get them
things that they need and sharing life
experiences so it's two existing csas
okay that are going to be going through
the credible messenger training that are
a part of our gvi
okay thank you for clarifying um and
then my question regarding the pay raise
justifications um thank you for the
information I just want to make sure
that
um it's not sort of like self-reporting
or self-identifying of what these
individuals are doing because you
provided a clear uh job description for
the gvi support and Outreach coordinator
are there job
descriptions I guess that have been
updated to reflect some of these other
duties that um the employees have been
taking on so yes over the course of time
um those jobs have been updated through
the course of their job descriptions
have been updated and every year when we
do the evaluations is when those when
those job descriptions get updated if we
take the original one for each one of
those positions you'll see over the
course of time that those individuals
have been here uh from the accreditation
manator down to the confidential
secretary to uh to the deputy chief
you'll see that job description expand
uh as those as those uh additional
duties come about and we try to find a
place for for the work to get
accomplished so uh the yes those those
job duties have been updated the only
one I would tell you that's not been
updated to reflect the current stuff
because we just um over the course of
this year would be the uh crime the
crime analyst for we we now have our
house in the uh the commissioner's
office that has not been updated because
she's uh currently doing the grand stuff
and that started this year so that will
be updated as we go through this and i'
probably be looking to as a title change
to it to make it something more
compatible than than a crime analyst
something that that sort of kind of fits
what she currently does would you then
be looking to replace and add an a
second crime analyst as well or just
keep her in a different role she would
just she be retitled she would still
have the duties as a crime analyst okay
and then it would incorporate the other
stuff that she's doing uh that uh to
make it more realistic as far as title
goes because if you look at if you look
at a title of crime analyst you're
thinking crime analyst and you're not
thinking Grant manager not thinking um
some of the other duties that she does
uh so it to bring the title
to
better look at what what she does or
better explain what she does that's
probably what we're looking to do with
that okay well if you could please share
the updated formal job descriptions for
all of the employees okay that will
um potentially receive an increase I'm
not sure how that will go but the
assistant assistant to the commissioner
the police substation manager uh the
accreditation manager the court liaison
special events coordinator the both of
the crime analysts the confidential
secretary to the deputy chief all right
I will send those to you okay thank you
y thank you thank you councilwoman Davis
thank you vice president green good
evening um gentlemen and thank you for
being here thank you for the thorough
report I just have two quick questions
are there any new incentives for
retention or could there be some type of
contractual commitment for the new
officer
so the the best thing that we have at
this point because they're currently
under contract uh the best thing that we
we are able to do this year is retention
bonuses and you see how that worked uh
so um next year is a contract year uh so
we we've been in talks or we I'm
sorry CDA yeah Collective barain oh yeah
yeah yeah sorry acronyms
right all right but but uh but no I mean
that's where we'll get into those
contract negotiations uh with the fop um
there's ideas passed around I mean we're
trying to do what we can to work within
the uh the current contract um that we
can accommodate some of the uh some of
this
stuff thank you that's it
for thank you councilwoman
Daniels thank you uh I do have I guess
one or two questions here um not too
much for you uh the first is about the
crossing guard guards um was this a
decision that the city made not to renew
the crossing guard contract or was it
more of a school district or it just
kind of fell through the cracks it was
more of a school district uh we took on
a program a pilot program with the
school district and um so then after you
know we trained them up and what have
you know they said that they would take
it over but the um the superintendent
left and so he had the new guy holding
the bag without talking to him explain
at the program to him but it was the
school district's um choice to to pull
out okay thank you I just wanted to make
for sure that was on the record for
residents who um I'm sure will have some
questions about it uh because it was a
it was a big thing and a lot of
residents were really happy um that they
had the increase in crossing guards for
kids uh on their way to school it made
them feel a lot more comfortable I know
it made me feel more comfortable uh and
then the second is more of a comment not
a question um as far as the csas um I
definitely have seen them more this year
so I'm glad to see that um but I do
remember when the program first started
uh they were not supposed to be police
officers and I know they're not police
officers but they're starting to look
more and more like police officers when
you see them like they look like police
officers um and so I think that's
something that we might need to take a
look at uh to kind of tone that down a
little bit we're already addressing that
issue we trying to change their uniforms
because that was one of the things that
and I scratched my head to this day is
to why that come out the way it was um
but we're changing their uniforms over
so they they look uh look less like us
um and and have their own look to them
okay I'm definitely glad to hear that
because every time I see them I'm like I
know you're not a police officer but if
I didn't know I wouldn't know so I'm I'm
glad to hear that because it also could
be a safety issue because they are not
trained uh for those situations and if
someone who is committing a crime sees
them um they might react as if they are
a police officer so glad to hear that so
we actually did change uh their uniforms
we're just waiting for the rest of them
to come in so if you were to see Mr Khan
he has his full uniform on so that is
the new look if you ever if you ever see
him out and about Mr
Khan if you can send us a photo that'd
be great too
yeah yeah um I did see him out in the
community at a ribbon cutting ceremony
and the first thing I looked I looked to
see if they had a gun has a uniform just
like your uniform I know so that was one
of the things that uh we had actually
when I was a captain we had started
talking about sort of it it's got to go
a different direction because you're
absolutely right it becomes a safety
issue for them um and it sort of kind of
helps with the community on the other
side thank you very much are there any
other questions or comments for the
Bureau of police regarding their budget
or anything since they're
here seeing none thank you thank you
gentlemen for being here tonight uh
thank you for the work that you doing in
your in our community we appreciate it
thank you thank you all
Council oh wait a minute you forgot your
uh social security
number
n uh I'm going to ask for a brief five
minute 7even minute recess just uh to
use the restroom and then we will
reconvene with the Bureau of
codes
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come back to our budget hearing uh we
will resume with the Bureau of
codes if you would take the time to
introduce yourself give us an overview
of your department your presentation and
then we'll open up to questions good
evening city council Ann Montgomery code
administrator the department over
overview is the same uh slide that I
would send for the quarterly meetings uh
that we used to have the responsible for
enforcing building construction
electrical standards Plumbing Health
sanitation and Property Maintenance
codes for both residential and
Commercial structures performs plan
reviews on all conr construction
projects and process for all buyers
notification and flood zone
applications processes all permits
relating to building construction
electrical and plumbing work and
assisting zoning compliance issue
licenses for electricians plumbers
rooming houses manage the residential
rental registration and rooming house
process interacts with the public daily
including complaints property owners and
contractors building and plumbing
inspection
perform Progressive inspections
enforcing building codes on new
construction Rehabilitation and
alteration projects for both residential
and Commercial properties all inspectors
enforce code violations inside and
outside of existing structures and
vacant Lots including but not limited to
high grass snow
sanitation Plumbing Heating electrical
vectors and structural violations using
the international property maintenance
code code and amendments enforcing
non-compliance of these violations using
citations processed through the district
justice court process as
needed Health office inspects food
establishments Street vendors dwellings
and Commercial places for compliance
with state laws advises and trains food
establishments maintains database and
food purveyors inter interprets
laboratory res
results presents cases for the
Commonwealth courts inspects for lead
abatement educates and promotes Public
Health Partners and health care
providers significant budget
changes we have a total of an additional
10,000 on the whole
budget uh so the miscellaneous
contracted Services is something new we
want to fund warrants to be served when
needed
for the supplies educational we added
$4,000 this is to fund training testing
and
classes tools and Hardware we added
$7,000 the purpose is to fund and
handheld handheld ticketing machines for
the uh cars that are parked on uh
Lots then we lowered the office
equipment to uh $55,000
less departmental
diversity we do have one newer employee
who's not fully fluent in Spanish but is
working at the front counter and helps
with the public and uh it is a value to
the public you know making them more
comfortable to uh learn the process
we have one vacant code officer position
uh we will start to interview in the
first quarter of
2025 and we have another code officer uh
position that if approved the new uh
position of electrical
inspector that would be a code officer
moving into that
position um
that would give
another uh vacancy to
the to the
office grants and special projects we
have a brick Grant out with
FEMA that possibly could be approved uh
and issued in
2025
2025 uh the time frame has not been
validated but it would be for a maximum
of 165,000 and and this grant would be
split with the fire
department the grant would be used for
training arpa
projects the funding set aside for the
demo bundle has been awarded and
demolitions will begin within a couple
weeks or the beginning of 2025
the new position as I had mentioned just
earlier is to hire uh electrical
residential inspector right now we have
a lot of
problematic uh issues we do not inspect
any electrical permits that's all done
by third party they do a rough and a
final uh we are finding a lot of issues
with the uh third-party electrical
inspection will come in to do other
inspections see that there's a final
sticker on the panel as an example but
yet the Electrical uh installation has
not been
completed and
uh this will give more safety to the
city and also the position itself will
pay for itself because instead of uh
having
hiring a third party we would be doing
those
inspections year-to dat budgets minus
the line
changes previously the current proposal
for 2025 aligns with the spending totals
with 2024
row exceeding the 2%
increases uh so my position would
increase by
5% reason is it's a fair comparison to
other management positions in the city
of
Harrisburg I have met and exceeded the
goals of the department demolitions
efficiency of work within the department
created bilingual forms for the public
use training of the code officers
additional manage additionally managed
and maintain the oversight for all work
stated
below for the deputy code administrator
there's an increase of
9% he has more certifications than is
required for his position and he has uh
met or exceeded the goals of the
department
he has uh initiated a training manual he
comes in early every day does more time
than is
needed uh he updated uh checklists for
Progressive inspections that has
um brought in like over 50% more
Progressive inspections than what was
being done before
he created a new employee training
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binder and he is also on call after
hours for
emergencies the data analyst is an
increase by
8% he leads critical projects the new
mun system once that gets up and running
he'll be training the new code
officers on that system he has helped
with it and
uh putting in information for
munus and uh when the position was
started which was a year and a half ago
I had asked for 60,000 for that and uh
they had started the position at
55 it didn't increase in
24 and it would bring it to what it
should be
at
60,000 those are two the
increases departmental
highlights there's 20
demolitions
projected
we it says 21 completed it actually 20
have been completed and one was just
started about a week oh one will be
started tomorrow actually
uh I was hoping that would be completed
but with the holidays I I that'll
probably be completed in 25 there's two
more pending uh that's the process of
cdbg uh waiting for their approval to be
able to start the other two
demolitions training and promotion of
code officers supported changings
changes to the union requested for reded
timelines of certifications to enhance
the productivity and meet the lni
requirements in the past it was 15 years
that you could the code officers would
be able to meet the requirements the way
the grades were set up this has been
reduced from 15 years to 5
years and with L and we are required to
have so many certifications in
comparison to how many permits that we
are signing off on
we've updated every form inspection
criteria and permit created each in
aiding will format and posted to see to
the Harrisburg website for ease of use
for the
public the international property
maintenance code has been updated from
2000 to
2018 and implemented new
standards created background information
for the munis transition
created and maintained a condemned
Property database that is used by at
least three other departments in the
city police
fire and then also Dolphin County uh
uses that
list departmental highlights for
2025 we hope to fill the electrical
residential Spector if approved by city
council we hope to complete 31
demolitions fill the vacancy code
officer positions convert capable
records to digital
formats converting to munis in the
second or third quarter training and
testing to get 80% of the code officers
to office to officer two level
implement the brick Grant if
awarded and the completion of the arpa
demo
bundle performance
metrics demolitions each year benchmarks
are different based on the array of
moving targets and our goals that are
fluid from year to year
public complaints assessing totals are
also fluid but ensuring a high percent
of complaints or investigated assessed
and brought to some level of conclusion
is always a top priority some complaints
take months to bring in compliance and
some Take
Years code officer initiated complaints
we have code officers that will put in
their own complaints not just from the
city um public that we receive daily but
also the code officers when they're out
and about they put down um the the
violations that they see while they're
out metrics in terms of volume can be
pulled from the Harrisburg records
database upkeep and adherence to
internal Sops for recordkeeping are the
keys to
this and that cludes the
presentation thank you very much um off
the top of my head I don't have any
questions I'm going to start I'm going
keep it consistent start with councilman
Jones at the end here thank you vice
president green um how you doing hello
okay uh so one of the things I will ask
for an explanation for not only just for
myself but also for public um
awareness uh one of the things that you
said that you will be doing let me find
a
slide
um excuse me one
second well the question is this um
about the warrants being um being served
and issued can you can you um expound on
a little bit and what that means so yeah
we put
4,000 into that so someone that lives
far away so you know that we can maybe
hire somebody to serve that
warrant um for for something that
somebody has been avoiding and not um
taking care of the violations so is this
yeah is this something outside of um
because from my understanding when C uh
writes a a violation or what not it's
then sent to our DJs and then if it's
not handled there are you seeing
something outside of what the district
justice would do
I'm trying to understand when you say a
warrant is served usually oh so so it's
Kickback from the district judges the
ruling is there and it comes back to you
so it'll go to a warrant if if uh the
person does not respond or it doesn't
show up for court it'll go to a
warrant and so for us if somebody lives
far enough away I mean our own police
officers what I War but we wouldn't ask
them to go to Baltimore or to go to Mar
land to do that and so it will
cost I'm not four I know it wouldn't
cost 4,000 per call but you know what is
the expense associated with reaching
down to Maryland unless we're just I
mean again just effectively
communicating with another municipality
or is there a actual fee attached to
that warrants are different state to
state like we can't just automatically
do it right so um we have to get a third
party normally to serve it and what
third party is eligible depends on which
state the property owner is in but
basically this is for absentee landlords
right who just who just neglect and
avoid service you know we have someone
right now trying to have a hearing one
of appear remotely from the Virgin
Islands okay you know um and you know
they they they you know those have been
those get delayed and delayed and
delayed right and uh so I think this is
sort of an experiment how to expand
getting some of these out of town
landlords uh to get their actual
attention because they really do believe
in if if you never get me you you know
if you if the warrant hasn't been served
I don't have to appear the court has no
jurisdiction over that's right so my
question again like okay there's a cost
associated with that but my question
would be um do we have a a metric that
we're seeing that have you used I mean
how do we know we need 4,000 um do you
have a um any documents to show how many
people that you had to go outside and
use some money like this for I actually
don't I don't have documentation not
sure what it the cost will be
it's it's I I thought it was a smaller
amount to try to start with and and see
what happens with that so we've never I
don't want to say prosecuted so so for
years there was no budget line item in
codes to serve when they duck a warrant
even for local folks and so when you see
some of these radant folks it's because
they know they've not been served with
that warrant um they're St thousand of
warrants sitting in the system there's
thousands of violations sitting in the
system and codes are you just saying in
general codes Okay
thousands um and so um you know because
people who really want to avoid are
pretty good at it so I think Cod is
trying to put another tool in the
toolbox you know um and will it work I
don't think I don't think we know this
is new this is new right and so just
getting a constable if they go out
locally that's who serves those they
they cost money I understand but if they
don't get them it still costs money
absolutely right so they go they you pay
them to go out there and then you know
they're not we've paid the money and
then it's still not
served so my other question um just to
ask you to expound on a little more for
uh our residents as as you know as you
and I communicate from time to time um
there's a an influx of of complaints
about codes um we talked about this for
even with the update from the
ipmc um even with that update um and it
being implemented you said in in your
report also that it will sometimes take
months or up to years for anything to be
done so can you expound on that for our
residents as well yeah say if it's a
vacant property you know so we cite who
is the owner but the person is not
responding you know so
so maybe the property gets sold or
bought in in a repository you know so
then you have to go over a new owner but
that that citation or that complaint was
never brought into compliance because
nobody ever
responded and sometimes the repairs
could take long enough uh if somebody if
somebody has a we condemn a property um
it takes you know permits and the
process of rehabing that building
to ever bring that complaint out of uh
to to bring that complaint into
compliance so it can take a year or more
to rehab a
building right I'm just saying again um
you I think you're explaining it but
just more so of like residents there's
someone may me living next door again we
use an example I mean these are some of
the calls I've even giving you that
there was a um u a house that's made
that's even occupied and they're not
cutting their grass and they're not
their trees they're overes remember the
one picture I showed you is just
blocking the pathways this is clear
violation also with some of the the
vehicles that's on the parcels you know
um I'm seeing this a lot more than usual
now it's just like hey is that due to um
I know you don't you're not fully
staffed with the enforcement officers
are um I don't want it to be a lack of
of you not carrying and I know that's
not the case but um can you expound on
some of that why some of that is still
hanging out there for our
residents yeah it's uh sometimes they
get stuck in the DJ's office you know
and and um sometimes the the the owner
doesn't respond or doesn't have the
ability to
respond uh there's a lot of reasons of
why things may not come into
compliance um some people expect us to
do it you know they see a vacant
property well why doesn't codes fix it
well that's not what we do we don't fix
it but we can write citations we can try
to find the
owner um and and doing the warrants is
another uh like Neil said a tool to for
us to
utilize to try to get somebody to be
responsible when they're not being all
right um last thing uh
the goals for 2020
25 um what I don't see is again
strengthening those constituent Services
um making better contact when an email
will send to our phone calls place
because some of those complaints are
nobody's responding nobody's replying um
do we have anything or do you plan to
have anything because obviously I don't
see anything here but do you plan to
have anything to answer some of those
calls and again is that due to you know
um you don't have you're not fully
staffed in some of these areas to be
able to answer every becking call yeah
so we lost a code officer and and when
you lose somebody those those things do
happen you know um we don't have enough
people just to take all the work that
that code officer was doing and then um
split it among everybody else that's
already has enough workload uh we do try
to you know you know uh for the more
serious ones that come about I do I do
think we can do better on the responding
to the
complaintants and
um yeah I I can we're having a meeting
tomorrow and I can talk about that on
the importance of it because yeah just a
response just when I feel there they
ignore you know right right and and I
have people that come in and say why
didn't codes do anything and I look into
the system and I see oh well we did we
wrote three citations you know we we
sent out a notice and they're like oh
yeah well I didn't know that so I think
we can respond and let them know what we
are doing um and it's much appreciated
you know when we do talk to the public
all right thank you no further questions
vice president green thank you very much
councilman Rodriguez no questions for me
thank you councilwoman RW
that wasn't on thank you thank you for
being here um director Montgomery um and
for your presentation I just wanted to
know um the the increases I think it was
a
8% a
9% uh for the salaries sorry I had to
slide on my phone oh yeah I think it was
the codes administrator which is you the
deputy codes administrator and the D
data analyst I know you named some
things an extra jobs that they did this
year but I just wanted to know if there
was a job description because I wanted
to compare
them I can get you a description please
if you could just email it that's fine
sure thank you that's it for me thank
you president
Bowers uh just one question thank you um
if you could please provide in the job
descriptions that you'll be sharing a
job description for the electrical
residential inspector as well well that
would be helpful thank
you councilwoman Davis thanks vice
president green good evening Miss
Montgomery thank you for being here this
evening uh the first thing I want to do
is to commend you on the uh getting the
uh website updated with the uh forms and
everything and having those uh that all
that information be available in Spanish
the bilingual aspect of that so that's
really great um the other thing is I
wanted to know is is the information as
far as
um the
citations that you send out or warrants
well not warrants but oh yeah warrants
warrants or
citations is that information open to
the public
um
citations would that be public knowledge
so it's part of a court system record
it's not really our record like we we
file things with the court the court
issues the citation and the warrant so
it's part of the judicial record
technically under actually the right to
no law because it's a a judicial record
the request goes to them not to us the
right to know under the right to know
law because a judicial record is not a
municipal record okay okay so for
example if an elected official wanted
that information would they have to go
through the right to know procedures as
well an elected official of the city of
Harrisburg would not have to go through
the right to know maybe an elected
official from another location would um
but we could coordinate getting you
information oh okay thank you for that
also um and let's see here I have one
question but I don't so thank you very
much okay that's it for
me thank you councilwoman Daniels any
questions no questions just a comment it
would be helpful if your report had
numbers so that we could compare year to
year okay thank you councilman Davis
thank you I forgot one more question
with the 20 demolitions that codes did
this year was it 20 there's been uh 20
completed 20 completed are you able to
give us well I know that my colleagues
may not want a copy to be able to see
but I would like a copy to see the
properties that were actually demolished
to 20 properties sure thank you thank
you very
much thank you any other questions or
comments yes I do have one um
I know earlier late earlier on this year
we uh Council we had presented something
about um trying to create more home
ownership in the city of Harrisburg to a
program that we're looking into continue
to build out um the NAA program um so
with these scheduled
31 um demos to be done in
2025 is there a way that we will be able
to look at some of these properties
before they just get totally knocked
down if they're savable or salvageable
or I know you have grades on what what
could be done yeah so the grades are
from one to 5 one being the worst the
only ones we take down are the ones the
number ones that are already
collapsing um and it's you know in
somebody's name you know there's an
owner for that and once we take it down
there is a lean that's put on that
parcel so so there are mechanisms and
there's been a large group meeting and
putting some of them back in place
they've really Fallen away from covid
and afterwards but there's a vacant
property review board process that has
to happen the city doesn't own those
properties right we can't transfer them
to anybody I'm I I wasn't saying that no
but I'm well I mean but but what can
happen is if they're really neglected
and we don't before they get to they
have to come down if there's a process
by which the notification goes over
which it could become public property
through the vacant property reboard and
then it transfers to the Redevelopment
Authority which adds it to its list of
properties that someone can come in to
acquire and if it's done well it's
before those properties are now that
neglected child that can never be
repaired right if you get it early
enough um as opposed to just a vacant
lot um part of our vacant lot problem is
that um lot sizes at the time original
houses were built are smaller than and
the requirements now for zoning on how
big you can put a house on a piece a
building on a property so all of them
seem to be oneoff problems so getting
them early as a structure that someone
can rehabilitate still inside um HRA
would put it up there to actually then
apply to HRA to acquire
it thank you
sure thank you any further questions or
comments seeing none thank you for for
being here tonight miss Montgomery um
and I think that is going to be all of
the Departments we look over today uh
next we will open the floor to public
comment I will start to my right uh the
time limit is four minutes please state
your name the area in which you live in
the city uh and I'll start to my right
with anyone looking to give public
comment please approach the microphone
this microphone
here thank you city
council thank you
semantic um call talking about um
the subject that I brought up last month
that I didn't have enough time to finish
my talk about
it um I was wondering since going to be
maybe a lot of people here to give
public con a comment can I have it like
like eight eight minutes instead of four
minutes unfortunately we have to keep it
to four minutes just to keep it fair to
everyone
okay the last time I was here I was uh
told um that Mr Jones would would get
with me after the
meeting uh he said I left early because
I didn't realized there was a meeting
after that meeting I had other plans to
do okay I couldn't stay so I sent him a
a email uh that night he got back to me
that night and said he'll get back with
me tomorrow the next day I never he
never sent me any any information at all
and so he never got back to me I sent
him up a followup and he never answered
that um I
sent a
email a very long email to miss
Daniels and um it was it was blocked so
she could not get
that uh Miss Daniels is a city council
president right who is
who's who Miss oh you're the Miss
Daniels okay so you I I was blocked so I
couldn't you couldn't get my
email all
right um sent over the
past month and a half to two
months of approximate well I know
exactly how many there were 43 emails
made 32 copies of the
paperwork I've been to uh talking with
Mr
uh um ciders the engineer I met with him
at this alley in the rear of 1100 block
of malberry Street
and um he said it's going to take a long
time things don't happen
overnight um however of all the people
that I sent emails to um I made some
contact with some
people
and I
uh wasn't able to get any responses back
so the bottom line is there's a serious
parking problem in the 1100 block of
malberry street malberry street has all
these brand new apartment complex is
built
there the alley in behind 1100 block of
malberry hasn't been touched for 45 to
50 years I moved at silven Terrace in
1983 it was it was in worse condition
and it is well it's in worse condition
now than it was then and it was in
really bad shape I've owned a lot of
properties in that neighborhood this
neighborhood was also designated a
municipal historic district the 1100
block malberry street is a Cornerstone
for this
neighborhood the residents when this
neighborhood gets maybe better people to
afford to be it would to be affordable
to to live there uh maybe the rents will
go up and things can be a lot better
there won't be any parking available
because the street is all filled up as
it is right now it was filled
up at the time the McFarland building
was in uh planning stages okay and I was
the only one at the city uh zoning board
meeting to appeal
to to the to the organization of people
there that we need a parking lot in the
back of 1100 block of malberry Street
and at that time they used to bring the
trash back up that alley and now they
they made us put the trash cans in the
front of the properties on malberry
street and thank you for your
comment so I'm asking for some help no
one giving me any help with this no
one's contacted me all right you your
time's up but you don't have to leave
tonight because we don't have another
meeting after this and you and I can
speak with you all right thank
you thank you anyone else to the right
for public
comment seeing none anyone in the center
that would like to give public
comment my name is Han Johnson um I live
in a 1900 block of Market Street
um I came here today to a um it's a it's
a big a of the city but um I feel as
though it's one that is very necessary
um over the few years I've worked in a
few different fields so I have a
perspective um most people don't have um
I worked as a juvenile delinquent
counselor I worked as a case worker for
the state um for refugees as well well
as local residents um and I worked as a
social worker um for justice Works um I
also coached um tracking field for the
Youth Level as well as the high school
level and what I've noticed over time is
that um a lot of the resources are put
into the uh the Redevelopment if I want
to use that word
um instead of uh being proactive in
giving the youth the necessary resources
to be successful um I'm a Living
Testament that uh
Sports um can save a young young young
men's life um I got a scholarship to go
run track at Penn State um I was a state
champion I was a division one All
American um I wouldn't have been able to
do any of those things if there wasn't
someone like you know in the
neighborhood like Kirk Smallwood or
Angel doyo which has a you know world
record that can't be broken but you
wouldn't know that when you go to Harris
Harrisburg High
um um needless to say
um about seven years ago we all came
together as a collective and we thought
about a group called Harrisburg Youth
Sports Association um but we we couldn't
seem to get the traction or the support
and able to get it off the ground um
over this past year I was was the head
coach of the Harrisburg coer
Football Smurf team and uh what I
noticed was we lost a lot of our kids to
ssco Hannah um SW a because it was free
and um our program was looked at as
dingy and ran down because we have old
equipment and our un our uniforms don't
look nice
um and I also noticed that the
registration fee was uh a certain amount
that a lot of the parents couldn't pay
so it was real hard for them to allow
their child to uh to play a sport um and
this goes on because like uh the best
kid on the team last year he couldn't
play this year if you ask him why didn't
you play it's like he didn't want to but
the truth is his mom didn't have enough
money so when that kid can't play
football he can't he doesn't have
anything to do and then when you don't
have anything to do you find something
to do and that something might not be
positive all the time
um so we have a few organizations we
came together this is well thought out
we have a plan to execute it um so it's
the
Harrisburg baby
cougars Harrisburg so we you know the
first ask I'm coming to Harrisburg to
ask can we have support um you can't do
anything if you don't have money um so
we definitely uh you need help and it's
it's uh it's a dire need for the
children and they need something to do
like I said like they say athletes you
know kids that are in high school
they're um and their athletes they're
more prone to be successful because of
the things that you know you learn as an
athlete some companies often go after
athletes to hire them um it's not the
end all be all um that's just not the
only thing that we' be focused on we
make it in a requirement to um you pay
$100 you get to play two sports um one
of the other things is that you have to
the players have to attend four program
during the year um parents have to
volunteer thank you for your
comment anyone else from the
middle good evening my name is Cher
Hughes a resident excuse me I've been a
resident for three years in the city of
Harrisburg I lost three sons to the city
to gun
violence with no
answers I've been fighting this by
itself ever since
91314 from my oldest to my
youngest all killed on the streets of
Harrisburg to gun
vience excuse
me I'm working with the city councilman
Mr Rodriguez and Miss Amber on beginning
this process and hope I can get
everyone's
support the city fail the city's failure
to act on this in other in instance like
it my stomach's are kns y'all excuse me
I spoke with the police from the
detectives to the chief of police Corey
Dickerson to commissioner Carter to
Chief commissioner Kenneth Young to the
Williams mayor I have not received the
help I should
have as a
resident I've lost my three sons to
these
streets to come by this I would like to
support a petition to have a small
plaque in the areas of my son's deaths
to leave as a reminder of how great of a
young men they
were I want to hold hmac accountable for
the
incident they gave money under the table
as hush money but need to be accountable
as
well I need answers from the mayor and
the department other
departments I ask as a mother
for streets to be
lightning trees to be cut
down activities for our youth they have
nothing to offer our children out here
there's nothing to offer our children
and they fall victim to these horrible
streets more
policing and uh high crime
areas not go Patrol the area for a hot
second and then leave out the area
policing means staying in the area
policing the
area I'm just trying to figure
out police took a oath to serve and
protect our community who are they
serving and protecting their own because
I have
to to these streets and I've been
fighting for 10 years by S
the mayor she got Justice for her
granddaughter commissioner
Carter he got Justice for his
nephew
detective Duffin retired came back on
the force and got Justice for his
brother
they their relatives
these are my
children where's my Justice I've been
doing this for myself for 10 years and
they all know it I've been as far as
victim the crime delinquency
building I've been fighting since
9134 nobody's helping me from them to
mayor
helping me thank you for your comments
Miss Hughes can I get a few more seconds
please please because nobody's listening
to
me nobody's listening to
me this is all
paperwork from a crime delinquency
building paperwork from the mayor that
she asked me to get bring back to her so
she can help
me and that was 2022
save this last
baby sa my last
baby
graduated wasn't able to walk the stage
I had to do
that he was he was
basketball
so
now all three of my sons graduated
to they all
graduated but this wasn't here
to I
IEC
young
commissioner kidne
young commissioner
Carter detective
Rudy detective
VI only detective listening
to the only detective that's helping me
right now for all three he was only
assigned to one of my son's
cases thank you Miss Hughes app
you but as a
mother what am I supposed to do now I
have three sons I had to bury my babies
supposed to nobody gave me no answer
thank you Miss Hughes um we are
I know your story um I know it all too
well I knew your middle son we grew up
together out the South so um I I can't
say I feel your pain cuz I I I couldn't
imagine the level of pain that you feel
um I will do what I can um I don't know
how much I can do but I will speak with
the police department as well um I think
I speak with for all my council members
here when when we say uh we want to find
Justice for your sons as well as well as
um any victim in the city of Harrisburg
that faces gun violence so I appreciate
you coming down here tonight um and
sharing it directly with us and we'll
see what we can do um I can't make any
promises because I'm not a detective but
I will say that um you do have our you
have my support and I believe you have
all of our support and our deepest
condolences I appreciate that and one
more question that I forgot to ask you
far as my son's
memorials how do we go about this now is
we putting plaques up or something um I
know I had I think I responded to
Amber's email um just saying about a
petition um and then I believe it gets
brought to the our office um city
council and I'm not sure where it goes
from there but I do know that's part of
the process to make sure there's support
within the neighborhood Y and then we
also reached out to friends in Midtown
so after the holidays perhaps have a
town hall because there was some that
were a bit iffy so we want to alleviate
all fears and frustrations in Midtown
and perhaps get the right signatures up
to get that going but we'll we'll have
further talks about that as well miss
yeah but I'm confused about it it was a
crime committed there they can't just I
understand make it seem like it didn't
exist understand and coming to public
comment is exactly how we started then
we have the momentum we need to move
forward thank you thank
you I just wanted to say thank you so
much for coming and sharing and um if
you wouldn't mind staying after perhaps
we can um talk a little bit more thank
you thank you
thank
you is there anyone else from the middle
section of public comment um I just want
to say my name is Amber block I'm from
the new Fox Ridge Neighborhood where the
murder of ozar occurred outside hmac I
support putting a memorial plaque and I
wanted do everything we can as a city to
make sure there's not one plaque more we
as residents are tired of hearing
gunshots and Sirens outside our doors we
want to see Justice done this gun
violence stopped and I personally would
like to see um this addressed in a
constructive fashion by you
know following Community dialogue by
working more through the gun violence
prevention initiative by building more
community centers by Honor honoring and
centering the victims thank you thank
you any other comments from the
center hi yes my name is Jessica T and
I'm a resident of the community um I
just think we need to do more for our
youth as far as like providing things so
they're not getting bored going in the
streets killing each other stuff like
that I lost three brothers to G violence
that's my mom ch um I had to quit my job
nursing because it's a mental thing
because I just don't know how this can
just happen to one
family um and I would like more to be
done because we have other kids that got
to grow up in this community in this
world and I think if it's things placed
in order for them to do that you know
could keep them busy as far as after
school program when I was
young I was yeah I was in the mix and
stuff like that but it was things for me
to do to change my life around like it
was stuff like boys and girls club it
was Big Brother Big Sisters it was
advocates in the school it was it it was
a lot of things going on that ain't
going on now today where we're we're
getting all these violence all these
crimes while these kids is bored they
have nothing to do I have a 20 year old
daughter I have a 18 year old well he'll
be 18 my son
and you know I'm I'm I'm battling with
him with trying to be in the streets
because he's bored you know kids get
bored so they findel running off doing
things that they have no business
because it's nothing for them to do and
I think the community need to need to
put more money into things for these
kids to have something to do so our
group could grow up and be productive
and be
something then putting all this money
into like the officers things like that
what is what is they doing to help our
community the crimes is going on every
other day people are out here killing
each other every other
day what are we paying them
for it it is just not making sense they
are here to Pres protect and serve we
don't got no protection people running
down to them letting them know like my
mom she tried to save her son she went
to him letting him know like my son's
being harassed people shooting at my son
the May kept pushing my mom out the door
now my brother's dead now he's dead we
asked for help but the mayor had my mom
they made her go go through all this
stuff go sit down to get all this
paperwork so they can relocate her you
know she was down there Time After Time
After Time again and couldn't get up out
of here now my brother's
dead because of the promises the city
gave her and all this and that just
imagine what other family they going to
give all these promises to when they
running down there telling them these
boys is after my son help me help me
help me my mom pleaded for help she got
none now my brother's gone
so we just need to do more in this
community for our youth we we we need to
do more we need to invest more money
into them we want them to have a future
these babies should not be dying out in
the street these moms should not bury
these babies we should bury our moms
it's the complete opposite these kids
ain't making it past 14 it's nothing for
them to
do nobody the cops sees kids out in the
street they're not making them back then
we in we out in the street past street
lights oh they're picking us up taking
us to our residents we got to go in the
home it's curfews it's nothing in place
going on out here now today it's like
it's just saying okay do what y'all want
kill each other that's not right that's
not fair get these kids an opportunity
get these babies an
opportunity we need to do more in our
city and anything I can do because also
I was in a gang growing up I was in lady
soldiers I lost the best friend to that
so I changed my whole life and
everything around because of that but
thank you for your comment okay thank
you thank you anyone else from the
center anyone from the
left seeing none uh looks like it is
8:38 p.m. um a call to adjourn the
meeting motion to
adjourn so
thank you
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