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1 Hour Mega Compilation of MrBeast YouTube Advice

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Just fail.

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A lot of people get analysis paralysis.

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There's no such thing as a perfect

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video. Like someone should always call

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you and get on your video cuz it could

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be better.

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When I was a young teenager, I was

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getting no views, had no money, had no

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equipment.

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Imagine spending 10 years of your life

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only thinking about one thing every

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waking hour of the day. You could upload

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one great video a year and get more

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views than if you upload 100 mediocre

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videos.

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I put together the best Mr. Beast advice

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on YouTube. I know it's helped me, so it

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has the potential to help others in

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their lives or careers. I also design

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merch and thumbnails. You can check out

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my store or email me about work. Thank

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you for your time.

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Actually, as an answer to what is the

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best advice someone ever gave you, you

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said, "You're crazy until you're

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successful, then you're a genius."

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100% all along the way. People gave me

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so much advice on why I shouldn't be

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doing it, why I'm crazy. Every step of

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the way people wanted to tell me why I

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shouldn't be doing this and should get a

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life, should stop being too obsessed,

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everything everything under the book.

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And then once I'm successful, those same

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people are like, "Dang,

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you're a genius."

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Yeah.

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Wow, you you really you you pulled that

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off.

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I just watch it, honestly, and I just

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like if there's ever a moment where I'm

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even slightly bored, I'm like, "Cut it."

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And if there's something where I'm not

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just like, "Wow," you know, like the

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whole time, then it's like don't upload

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it. It's it's not good.

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If I'm not creating, then I don't feel

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fulfilled. I don't feel like I'm

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progressing, then I feel like I'm

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wasting my time. My well of knowledge

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needs to constantly be expanding, so I

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have more things to draw inspiration

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from for my ideas. If not, you're going

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to get the same ideas over and over

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again. So, it happens for a lot of

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creators, that's why their videos are

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repetitive and always the same thing

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because if you're not constantly

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learning new things, then your ideas are

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just limited to what's in your head and

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eventually you're going to drain it.

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It's a lot of testing, so we usually

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edit a video like, you know, five or

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seven times.

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What do you What would you say to

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creators that are getting started? I

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mean, do you think that it's still

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possible to start a channel on YouTube

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in 2020 and be successful or is it

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It's funny you saying that to me cuz I

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know you know the answer to it. Um yes,

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it's obviously it is. And the thing is

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though, you know, with the videos I was

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making when I was a smaller creator, I

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genuinely felt like, ah, you know, the

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algorithm hates me or this is unfair.

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But I just wasn't making content that

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deserved to get views. I don't know a

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nice way to put it. So I'm glad I'm

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talking about myself cuz anyone else I'd

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feel bad. But the video sucked. Like I

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mean, you just look at the retention

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graphs. People would click off at the

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beginning. People didn't know sometimes

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what they're clicking on and like, if I

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wasn't retaining a viewer, just why

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would it make sense for you to promote

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it? Like, why would you promote a

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10-minute video that people watch an

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average of a minute and a half? It just

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doesn't make sense.

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Well, if I don't have what I have in my

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head, then I would say just

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fail. Like just A lot of people get

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analysis paralysis and they'll just sit

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there and they'll plan their first video

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for 3 months. And yeah, I'm Any of you

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listening, if if you especially if you

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have zero videos on your channel, your

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first video is not going to get views.

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Period. It's not. Your first 10 are not

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going to get views. I can very

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confidently say that. So stop sitting

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there and thinking for months and months

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on end and just get to work and start

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uploading. Like, all you need to do is

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This applies to people who have not

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uploaded videos but have dreams of being

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a YouTuber is make 100 videos and

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improve something every time. Do that.

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And then on your 101st video, we'll

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start talking. Like, maybe you can get

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some views. But you know, your first 100

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are going to suck.

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Almost every podcast I feel like you've

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been on or every time you talk about

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YouTube, you always talk about how you

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reinvest everything back into the

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channel.

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Literally everything. And I think

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spending time with you here, what I

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notice is that's actually not just

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money, it's time.

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Yeah.

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You also reinvest all of your time.

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live and breathe this.

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Yeah, you invest all of your time into

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it. And I think that's something that is

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beneficial of of being where you are is

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that you have that ability. And then

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also, the concept of hiring is just so

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that you have more time to invest.

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Exactly.

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I think I just had the blessing of

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finding what I loved at a young age. So

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like, cuz to get to this level, it

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takes, you know, a decade. Most people

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don't find what they love till they're

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young 20s. So they'd be where I'm at in

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their 30s. I just lucked out and found

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it when I was really young.

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I mean, people can make excuses all they

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want and say it's just luck or say, you

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know, it is a teachable skill, it's a

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learnable skill. You can study your way

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to consistently make viral videos, no

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matter how small your channel is. Even

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if you have zero subscribers.

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Man, you're about to make me just start

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a college class here on this

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[laughter]

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video. So, essentially, yes, at the end

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of the day if you boil it down, what

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YouTube wants is they want people to

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click on a video and they want to watch

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it. Like, at its core, that's what it

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is. Now, you can like draw little lines

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and go as deep as you want on to how to

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get people to click and to how to get

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people to watch. I mean, essentially, by

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studying the algorithm, you'll learn

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that you're more studying human

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psychology, right? What do humans want

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to watch? What do they find enjoying?

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Not cuz like you anytime you say the

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word algorithm, just replace it with

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audience and it works perfectly. Like,

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the algorithm didn't like that video?

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No, the audience didn't like that video.

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Now, you know, cuz literally that's it.

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If people are clicking and watching,

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then it gets promoted more and that's

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all that's literally all the algorithm

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does is reflect what the people want to

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a T. And if you deny that, you just make

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terrible videos and are trying to find a

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scapegoat. Like, uh I mean, there's a

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reason everyone loves YouTube and, you

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know, spends hours every single day on

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it.

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The biggest thing is it's much easier,

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as weird as it sounds, it's much easier

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to get 5 million views on one video than

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100,000 views on 50 videos. Does that

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make sense a little bit? Um like, a lot

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of people like you could upload one

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great video a year and get more views

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than if you upload 100 mediocre videos.

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It's like it's very exponential. Like,

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I just like to make the greatest YouTube

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videos possible and that's that's

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literally all I want. So, yeah, I mean,

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if it's not the greatest video, I just

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won't upload it. And so, after you scrap

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a few videos, we kind of everyone, you

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know, just kind of starts to figure it

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out.

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So, like I was telling him, the way I

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like to work is like I like to go

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basically wake up, obsess over

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something, go to bed, wake up, obsess,

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go to bed. Like, every second of the day

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until I just have a mental breakdown, I

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burn out, and then I like take a day off

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or maybe a day and a half off, and I

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like to go right back to it. So, I don't

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like work certain days. I just go as

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hard as I can every ounce of my entire

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body until I just crash. And somehow

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that's sustainable.

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What time What time do you sleep?

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Uh, right now usually around 3:00 a.m.

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Virality is not accidental. Or sometimes

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it can be, of course, but

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It's It's just not.

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be engineered.

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It's Yeah, so many people say it's luck

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and they're like, "You're just lucky."

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Or this or that, but

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What What do we have? Two? Probably like

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a thousand videos over 10 million views?

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Like we don't ever have a dud. Like you

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can call it luck, but I think it can be

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trained. I I

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Is Is Is collaborative amplification.

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Like you're so good at that, right? Just

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Bro, on your walks, you you you do your

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hour walk at night, you go, "I'll just

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stro- scroll through my contacts and

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call someone, see how they're doing,

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pick their brain a little bit." Like

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Exactly. So much to be learned.

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Yep.

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And you're so good at that.

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thing is like that's what's sad is cuz

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so many like small YouTubers, they see

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it as like, "Oh, I don't Look, I [ __ ]

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I see this all the time." Like a guy

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with a million subscribers. Well, I'll

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we'll learn something new and they'll be

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like, "Oh, I don't want to teach my

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friends." Like they'll compete with me.

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It's like, "You dumb ass [ __ ]

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You've pulled less views in the last 3

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years than like I know people have on a

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single video." Like you teaching him

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isn't going to do anything.

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[laughter]

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Uh, and so like they're so like caught

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up in like not sharing things and being

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secretive.

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But also a lot of creators also just

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don't

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you know, which I didn't either for the

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longest time, just didn't don't make

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good enough content, you know, content

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that's worthy of getting 10 million

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views.

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In the idea or the execution of the

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idea?

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Both. I mean, like think about how many

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people just make videos they film them

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under 20 minutes and they don't really

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put any effort into it. And my first 500

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videos didn't deserve to get a million

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views. Like there's a reason they

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didn't. They were terrible, you know

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what I mean? But at the time I thought

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they did, right? I'm I'm in the mindset

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of a lot of small YouTubers where I

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thought those videos deserved a million

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views and I thought the algorithm hated

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me. But I watch them back now and I can

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tell you exactly why. The videos were

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just [ __ ] horrible, you know what I

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mean?

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Yeah. And like the the thing people

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undervalue the most is literally the

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first 10 seconds of the video. Like I

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can almost I think I can quote it. Uh,

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"I tied up an FBI agent and I have

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$100,000 in this bag. Here's a knife.

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Good luck." And I just run away. Like it

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gives you everything you need. No wasted

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words, short, concise, and then tension.

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Vi- So to do well on YouTube, you just

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need people to click your videos and

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watch them. That's literally all YouTube

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wants. And so, if you get people to

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click your video 10% more and watch your

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video 10% longer than mine, you don't

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get 10% more views. You get like four

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times the views, right? So, you have to

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think like an exponential, right? Like,

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a 10% better video is four times the

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views, not 10% more views. And so, like,

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once you understand that and you like

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funnel your energy better, it like it

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makes a big difference. So, it's usually

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like just like don't make your video

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[ __ ] Put in effort, you know, like put

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in way more effort. Like, really hyper

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obsess over these videos. Like, triple

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the amount of time you're putting in

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that into that video. Uh cuz you're not

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going to get triple the views. You're

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going to get 10x the views. And like

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How much time do you spend on those

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those openings?

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I'm a perfectionist. I I really It's so

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important. Like, that's your uh first

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impression for everyone clicking on the

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video. So, like, I like the whole time

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leading up to that, I'm just constantly

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obsessed with mostly the first minute.

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Just like making sure like if I were to

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click on this video, I would like the

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first minute and that it would hook me,

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you know what I mean?

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And when I first started, I got 100,000

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subscribers with an iPhone. And this is

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an iPhone 5 that recorded in 30 FPS,

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terrible quality. So, uh as you guys

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know, like equipment's never an excuse

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because like people were constantly

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roasting me for the quality when I first

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blew up. I was like, I don't have money.

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I don't know what to do. But then, um

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you know, I just reinvested every dollar

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made in over like the last, you know,

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whatever, eight years,

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um just slowly grew into whatever I do

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now.

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What was the breakthrough for you to

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start realizing to start having a

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self-awareness, you know, about these

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videos aren't good enough? You're

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probably still going through that.

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You're probably still growing to see

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like

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Yeah. Every six months you should look

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back and hate your videos. Or or at

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least see things you could improve and

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be like, oh, I could have done this

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better, that better. If not, then you're

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not learning quick enough. In my

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opinion, at least.

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But um so, when you're doing these

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videos and you're Do you ever have one

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that you do it and it just doesn't live

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up to what your expectations were? Yeah.

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the time. Um now, I know you're about to

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ask me, so let me let me think of some.

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Like

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yeah, probably like back in the day like

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one out of every four videos we filmed

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just never got uploaded cuz they were

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just not good. Yeah, cuz especially when

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I was like 19 and 20, like I had no

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idea, right? You know, like I'd come up

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with idea, let's climb a building with

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plungers, right?

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Right.

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And then, you know, you can't do it. All

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right. So, that's an example of one that

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failed. So, like imagine world where you

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have like three friends and like when

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friend number one learns something, he

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teaches the other two and friend number

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three [ __ ] up on a video and he teaches

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you guys and you're all coming up

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together. Whereas, if you're separate,

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you have to [ __ ] up every single time.

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You know, so like if you each make 100

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fuck-ups, you could be like 300 fuck-ups

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deep in learning. But, if you're

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separate, you're only 100 deep.

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It's just like if you wake up and every

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day you obsess over something and you

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live and breathe it and that's what you

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think about, that's what you do, that's

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what you study on and off, that's what

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you stay up every night grinding and no

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one else even gives a flying about it,

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it's like you just feel like a weirdo,

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you know, like an outcast. And And I was

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also like just dumb. Back then I didn't

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realize, oh, well, I just need to find

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different people. I thought like, oh, my

10:38

whole life I'll just never enjoy talking

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to people.

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[laughter]

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Yeah.

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And then I met other YouTubers and then

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I started talking to them like 10 hours

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a day and I was like then that's when

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the channel really started taking off.

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How often are you asking for help?

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[snorts] Because I realized this when

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you when you open the door to me for

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like like hey, let's just like bounce

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things off. I I definitely like took

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advantage of that, which I want like I

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don't I don't I don't I'm I'm I don't

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want to ask for help.

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is you've got to give more give at least

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what you take. And if you do that,

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people always teach you stuff.

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Say that one more time.

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You got to give at least what you take

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from someone. Which in the YouTube space

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is pretty easy for me cuz I just teach

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people anything and then I just hope to

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learn one thing from them.

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So, after just grinding year after year,

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there's probably some blur between when

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I was 17, 18, 19, somewhere in there it

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just started to get a little bit of

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views, you know what I mean?

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So So So are you you're just constantly

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asking questions or

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All the time.

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Really?

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way you can ever stay on top is if

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you're you're learning. If you're always

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learning, reinvesting every dollar, and

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basically working 10-12 hours a day,

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like I just don't see a world where

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someone can compete with you.

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I just remember like making videos, and

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I remember being like, "Dang." Like

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everyone's telling me like, "You're

11:43

stupid. You know, you're very awkward.

11:45

Like, you know,

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why would you make it? There's a

11:47

millions of people trying." And I just

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remember being like, "I don't know, I

11:51

just like it. I'm I'm going to do this,

11:52

or I'm going to die trying." Kind of

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thing. So, also I was a really a big

11:55

[ __ ] back then. When I was a young

11:57

teenager, I was getting no views, had no

11:59

money, had no equipment. And so, for

12:01

most part, it was just like I was just

12:02

trying to scrounge money so I could buy

12:04

equipment, cuz I was using my brother's

12:05

old laptop. And so, like my first couple

12:07

hundred videos, I didn't have a

12:08

microphone. Like, imagine just like

12:11

crackly terrible voice. Um and so, once

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I got monetized, I saved up for a few

12:16

months, like I told you, I bought a

12:17

microphone. I can just give you a

12:18

mile-high history. And I saved up for

12:20

like 6 months. I mean, I was just doing

12:22

video game videos. Uh and they were

12:23

terrible. But I saved up, I got a real

12:26

computer. So, now I can actually record

12:27

the video game in high quality. I have a

12:29

microphone. I'm like 15. And I just kept

12:32

going and going. For the last like 8 or

12:34

9 years, like every dollar I've made, I

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just spent it the next month on content.

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And I just did that every single month,

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and it just kept getting bigger and

12:41

bigger, and here we are.

12:42

YouTube's trying to serve people the

12:44

best content possible. Right? They don't

12:45

want to serve you 100 lame videos, they

12:46

just want to serve you one good one. So,

12:48

it makes sense logically. He's always

12:49

had great thumbnails, but he he wasn't

12:52

the best at making good videos. Which is

12:53

those are the easiest people to mentor.

12:55

They can get people to click, but they

12:56

can't get people to stick around. So,

12:58

then I you know, I've obsessed over how

12:59

to make good videos. So, now I just

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teach them how to make a video good, and

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then boom, their channel just goes

13:03

skyrocket.

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But how do you have time to mentor

13:05

people with all the things on your

13:07

plate?

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I just I find it fun. For me, it's kind

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of like therapeutic to go on a walk,

13:10

call someone, and then just roast their

13:11

channel.

13:12

[laughter]

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Is that what you do? You roast their

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channel?

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Like not meanly, but it's just like,

13:16

"Yeah, like

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Just honestly.

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Yeah, I'm like, "I can tell you're a

13:18

little lazy here. Like, you could have

13:19

put a little bit more effort. The hook

13:20

was a little weak. Like, you know, like

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why didn't you do this, or the payoff,

13:25

or whatever?" These are the biggest

13:26

thing is is, you know, obviously a

13:28

clickable thumbnail and title,

13:30

interesting stuff, yada yada, but is it

13:32

something that people will genuinely

13:34

want to watch? Um, and this might be a

13:36

little tangent, but one thing is a lot

13:38

of creators think click-through rate is

13:40

just like the title and thumbnail and

13:42

and did they click it, but a lot of it

13:43

too is did they enjoy your last video?

13:45

You know what I mean? Like is if someone

13:47

watches a video of yours and they loved

13:48

it, you can bet the next time you're

13:50

recommended their chance of clicking is

13:52

a lot higher, you know? So, it's like is

13:55

it something that can be entertaining

13:56

for a long time? Is it something that

13:57

they watch this next time, you know,

14:00

they see a video of mine, will they be

14:01

excited? Like I loved that last one, so

14:04

I want to watch the next one. Like those

14:06

two type of things. And then obviously,

14:07

you know, is it just interesting and

14:09

clickable?

14:10

Essentially, your title and thumbnail

14:12

set expectations. And at the very

14:13

beginning of the video to minimize

14:15

drop-off, you want to assure them that

14:17

those expectations are being met. You

14:19

click on a video where, you know, uh, of

14:21

his where it's like "Tether is a scam."

14:24

And then at the very beginning he starts

14:25

talking about literally anything else,

14:27

then you are like, "Oh, this is bull-

14:29

this isn't what I clicked on." But if at

14:31

the very start of the video you go,

14:32

"Tether is a scam and I'm going to teach

14:34

you why." Then it's like, "Okay, you

14:36

matched the expectation." So, at the

14:38

very beginning, match the expectations

14:40

and then you want to exceed them. So,

14:41

you want to assure people that what they

14:43

clicked on is what they're getting and

14:44

then blow their mind and be like, "But

14:46

you're also getting even more." That's

14:48

how you you lower drop-off, which a lot

14:50

of people is sometimes it takes them

14:52

like 20 seconds to really meet the

14:53

expectations. And so, you lose like

14:56

that's where you're going to lose

14:57

everyone. Everyone's videos start like

14:58

this and then it levels off. So, you

15:01

want to reduce the amount of people that

15:02

click off on the audience retention

15:03

graph. I hope you're popping up graphs

15:05

while I'm saying this so so it's easier

15:06

for people to visualize, but so then

15:09

once you get it to level off, it's just

15:11

how do you keep it level until the end

15:12

of the video? And that's where you you

15:14

want to have you want basically want to

15:15

remove every dull moment. You probably

15:17

want to find the 10 most critical people

15:19

you know, make them watch the video and

15:21

just roast it. You want to You basically

15:23

pay people to watch the videos on Frame

15:25

and then just have them record it. And I

15:26

love just seeing like when they pick up

15:27

their phones and when they get bored and

15:29

like, you know, certain things like if I

15:31

just talk to a camera for 10 seconds

15:33

without a cut, like a lot of people will

15:35

just like get bored or they'll lose

15:36

interest. So, like having a B cam and a

15:39

C cam and just you can just talk for 10

15:41

seconds, but 3 seconds in cutting to a B

15:43

cam and then a C cam, like now it's more

15:45

interesting even though it's essentially

15:47

the same thing and not that crazy. But

15:49

you want to have good pacing. Typically

15:50

having a payoff at the end keeps them,

15:52

right? Last Leaf Circle wins 10 grand.

15:54

If there is a low moment halfway

15:56

through, you're going to watch to the

15:57

end cuz you want to see who wins the 10

15:58

grand. Um so, having a good payoff at

16:00

the end.

16:01

hours do you work in a day?

16:02

I would say since I was 11 years old,

16:05

almost every waking hour of the day, I'm

16:07

thinking of YouTube in some form or

16:09

capacity. I feel like it was almost like

16:12

baked in my DNA. Like it just flows in

16:14

my blood. The the innate urge to create

16:17

videos and to build a YouTube channel

16:19

and build businesses. It's just That's

16:21

just what I do. And if I like try to

16:22

take time off, I just get depressed and

16:24

I I feel like I would lose my sanity.

16:26

That was the biggest problem is I

16:28

thought it was a freak of nature cuz

16:29

like people would tell me all you do is

16:30

talk about YouTube. You're too obsessed

16:32

with YouTube. Like get a life. Like from

16:35

13 to like 19, I never met anyone who

16:38

cared about YouTube. I was I was so

16:40

untalkative. People thought like there

16:42

was problems with me cuz I just wouldn't

16:43

talk to anyone. Cuz all I would do is

16:45

talk about YouTube. And after a while,

16:47

like you realize like no one cares. And

16:48

then when I was 19 and I like 10,000

16:50

subscribers. Maybe it was like 18. And I

16:52

That's when I started meeting a few

16:53

other YouTubers online and I realized

16:55

like I'm not a freak. I'm just like

16:58

obsessed with YouTube and that's okay.

17:00

You know, you just got to find other

17:01

people that are like that.

17:02

If we If I spend me and my team spend

17:05

like 10 times more time than everyone

17:07

else brainstorming ideas, which we

17:08

probably at this point spend 100 times

17:09

more time than everyone else. Uh we

17:11

spend half a million to a million

17:13

dollars a video, whereas normal people

17:15

are just like a thousand or ten thousand

17:17

is an expensive video now. And we just,

17:20

you know, sometimes we're filming for

17:21

three or four days like 10 hours a day,

17:23

you know, 30 40 hours of filming plus

17:25

months of setup. Whereas most creators

17:27

probably film for a couple hours and set

17:28

up for a day. I think for us, you know,

17:31

by always doing all those things, it

17:33

just distinctively sets it so far apart

17:35

that it's basically, in my head it's

17:37

like why would you not watch it? You

17:38

know what I mean? But for the average

17:40

person like us, you know, who don't have

17:42

these exceptional personalities and, you

17:44

know, backgrounds in

17:45

filmmaking, just make a hundred videos,

17:46

improve something each time, and then

17:48

talk to me on your hundred first video.

17:49

How do you improve something each time?

17:51

The second one, just I don't know, put

17:53

more effort into the script. The third

17:54

one, try to learn a new editing trick.

17:56

The fourth one, try to figure out a way

17:58

that you can have better inflections in

17:59

your voice. The fifth one, try to, you

18:01

know, study a new thumbnail tip and

18:03

implement it. The sixth one, try to

18:04

figure out a new title.

18:05

There's infinite ways. That's the beauty

18:07

of content creation online. There's

18:08

literally infinite ways. From the

18:10

coloring to the frame rate to the

18:11

editing to the filming to the production

18:12

to the jokes to the pacing to every

18:14

little thing can be improved, and they

18:15

can never not be improved. There's no

18:17

There's literally no such thing as a

18:18

perfect video.

18:19

And well, the thing is like as long as

18:20

you're reinvesting everything and you're

18:22

constantly innovating and adapting, it's

18:24

it's pretty hard to fall off if you're

18:26

like putting in the effort and stuff

18:27

like that.

18:27

Easy for you to say, dude. All you do is

18:29

put in the effort. You're a workhorse.

18:31

And even when you're not working, like

18:33

you [snorts] started taking those like

18:35

therapeutic late night walks.

18:37

Yeah. I call him all the time. I get

18:39

like one out of 10 times he answers.

18:40

Like you can elevate your content by

18:42

being more creative, spending more

18:44

money,

18:44

Yep.

18:45

putting in more effort. And there's like

18:46

all these different things. And so like

18:48

one of those just has to be going up,

18:50

not all of them each video. And if you

18:51

do it that way and strategic, it's easy

18:53

to constantly innovate.

18:54

You're extremely diversified.

18:56

Uh in in the type of content, yeah,

18:58

exactly. Cuz that's the thing like

19:00

Well, well, it's not even not even just

19:01

in content, bro. Like you have so many

19:03

different businesses.

19:04

Yes, let's talk about that [ __ ]

19:06

Well, let's say you lose money in a

19:06

video, you're like, well, Mr. Beast

19:08

Burgers is popping off this week.

19:10

Yes, weirdly enough, the best thing for

19:12

my mental health was giving in to my

19:15

innate nature to work. And

19:17

the most depressed I get is when I try

19:19

to restrict it and like I don't work

19:20

weekends or I don't work this day.

19:22

What's best for me is just to work when

19:24

I feel like working and then just not

19:26

work when I don't. Like and just have no

19:28

constraints cuz there are just some

19:29

nights where I don't want to sleep and

19:31

whatever reason I feel compelled to go

19:32

all night and I just give in to it. And

19:34

I feel that's where I feel the happiest

19:35

and and then you know, it's typically

19:38

like and when I'm really in the grind

19:40

mode, it'll be like seven or eight days

19:41

just non-stop going going and then it's

19:43

like I'll I'll realize like oh

19:46

I need some recharge time and then go

19:48

[ __ ] binge at a season of anime.

19:50

Again, the thing is everyone has

19:50

different priorities, you know, if you

19:52

want to make a few hundred grand a year

19:53

and just you know, coast or whatever.

19:55

Like you know, not everyone has

19:57

ambitions stuff like that. But if you

19:58

really do want to be the best you can

20:00

possibly be, be the biggest YouTuber,

20:02

you should look at hiring as a way to

20:03

free up your time so you can do more

20:04

important things and even then and hyper

20:06

optimize every little minute and

20:07

anything that isn't work, you should

20:10

outsource to someone else so you can

20:11

recharge so you can work again, you know

20:13

what I mean?

20:13

Yeah. Up until 18 I had been doing

20:15

YouTube pretty religiously, but I was

20:17

making no money. Like this is kind of

20:18

the turning point was when I graduated

20:20

from high school and my whole life I was

20:21

like I want to be making enough money by

20:23

the time I graduated to do this

20:24

full-time and I wasn't. I was still only

20:26

making a couple hundred bucks a month.

20:28

So I graduated high school and my mom

20:30

was like either move out or go to

20:33

community college and I didn't have

20:34

enough money to move out, but I really

20:36

just I hated school with a passion. So

20:38

but she forced me to go to community

20:40

college and that was the worst thing

20:41

ever. Like that that made me hate life.

20:43

Like borderline suicidal. I just can't

20:45

stand like having to just sit there and

20:47

listen to this dumb stuff and listen to

20:49

this some teacher read out a book. So

20:50

what I did was I would act like I was

20:52

going to community college, but I would

20:54

just work on videos in my car and edit

20:56

and stuff like that. I had straight

20:57

zeros. [laughter]

20:58

And so now the clock had started cuz

21:00

like once my mom found out I was

21:02

screwed. And so I would act like I was

21:04

going to college that whole time, but I

21:05

wasn't and I didn't have enough money to

21:07

move out. And that was kind of when I

21:08

was just like 15 hours a day all in. I

21:11

was like, I'm [ __ ] if this doesn't

21:12

work. And I actually I had some videos

21:14

pop off. I couldn't tell you which ones,

21:16

but I had a month where I made 20 grand

21:18

cuz I just had some videos just do

21:19

really, really well. And then I Yeah, I

21:21

came home and I was like, "Yeah, I

21:23

haven't been going to college." And I

21:24

moved out the next day.

21:26

If you knew everything you know now, but

21:28

no money.

21:29

Step one would I just brainstorm like,

21:31

okay, I don't have money. What are some

21:33

viral things? Like I mean,

21:35

Yeah, the the first thing that comes to

21:36

my mind is something as simple as when I

21:37

counted to 100,000, which is what I did

21:39

do when I I was poor. Um and like that

21:41

worked, but like what's something like

21:43

that I could do that would be even more

21:45

attention-grabbing?

21:46

Yeah, you were as part of the

21:47

brainstorm,

21:49

you would throw out a lot of ideas and

21:51

people throw out a bunch of ideas. And

21:52

one of the questions is is this even

21:54

doable, right?

21:55

Yeah. First off, come up with ideas you

21:57

think would do well, and then ask

21:58

yourself later if they're doable. Cuz

22:00

there's there's different ways you can

22:01

accomplish something.

22:02

Don't be cynical about the doability of

22:04

stuff.

22:05

Yeah, because there really are so many

22:06

different ways you can

22:08

to be You have to work on multiple

22:09

videos at a time cuz most of our videos

22:10

takes months to produce, and I don't

22:12

just upload two or three videos a year.

22:14

So if you're working on like five videos

22:17

at a time, and one of the videos takes

22:19

up an entire warehouse, and another

22:20

video takes up an entire warehouse, well

22:21

then you can't work on the other three

22:22

cuz two warehouses are full. So then

22:24

that's what led us to getting this big

22:26

place because it's so huge we can work

22:28

on multiple videos here at the same

22:29

time. That's just for you YouTubers that

22:32

are wondering like, how do you get to

22:33

this point? Like it's usually a slow

22:35

snowball.

22:35

actually studied hard enough and like

22:37

basically if you knew what I knew and

22:38

some of these

22:40

So I don't sound so arrogant. Also like

22:41

some of these other friends I have that

22:43

I'd say are the smartest people in the

22:44

world when it comes to content creation

22:45

online. If you had the knowledge that

22:47

was in our heads, you could do it very

22:49

easily. I I see people do it all the

22:51

time. And what's even more interesting

22:52

is I go on podcasts and I say everything

22:55

I know. It's all out there. And a lot of

22:57

people instead of just studying that and

22:59

trying to absorb and apply it in their

23:00

own way, they're just like, "No, it's

23:01

just luck." You know.

23:02

Be like two or three people that would

23:04

comment on each and uh back then, which

23:06

I think small YouTubers should do, is I

23:08

would reply to every single comment. And

23:10

so, I think a few people caught on that

23:11

they would al- I would always reply. And

23:13

so, some people would just be like, "I

23:15

wonder how long it'll take for him to

23:16

reply?" And like so, that was a lot of

23:18

my comments when I was smaller, but at

23:19

least it kept them coming back.

23:21

Apparently, if you make a pee joke, it

23:23

will drop your attention by around 5%.

23:25

No pee jokes, that's just a no-go, no

23:27

matter how funny it is. I mean, I think

23:29

it's funny, but doesn't matter. It's

23:30

just a no-go. Like, you can't do that.

23:32

It's just no. No.

23:34

Do you ever take days off?

23:35

So, I found giving in to my natural

23:37

instinct works best. So, I just work

23:39

every day, every hour of the day,

23:42

um until I just burn out. Anytime I try

23:44

to stick to a schedule, it just doesn't

23:45

work cuz there are certain Saturdays I'm

23:47

just fired up and like, even God himself

23:49

couldn't stop me from going and working

23:50

on a video. And then there are other

23:52

Saturdays where I'm burnt out. And so,

23:55

yeah, I just I just kind of give in to

23:56

my emotions and just work when I want

23:58

to.

23:58

If you hang around people like just

24:00

whatever, different people, you're going

24:02

to feel crazy and it's going to wear on

24:03

you. Whereas if you're around similar

24:05

people,

24:06

it just it's so much easier. The people

24:08

they around 100% dictates the outcome. I

24:10

would I would not be on 120 million

24:12

subscribers if I didn't find uh when I

24:15

was around a million, I had a couple of

24:16

friends that were just also psychopaths,

24:18

you know, I outgrew them, but at the

24:21

time it was great. And I wouldn't be

24:22

where I am today if it wasn't for them.

24:23

Just all along the way, the friends that

24:26

I hung out with had such a dramatic

24:28

impact on on where I am.

24:29

When I was a teenager, I just, you know,

24:31

I couldn't relate to many people and I

24:32

just thought I was like a [ __ ] freak

24:33

of nature because no one was obsessed

24:35

with building businesses or any of this

24:36

kind of stuff. And so, like back then,

24:39

you know, that advice would have been

24:40

helpful. Maybe not that particularly,

24:41

but just knowing that there are you it's

24:44

not that you're a freak of nature, you

24:45

just haven't found people that have the

24:46

same interests.

24:47

task is not to feel sorry for yourself

24:49

or somehow change yourself. It's more to

24:51

find the

24:51

Find people you fit in with, yeah.

24:53

Did you mind at all that feeling of like

24:55

everyone being like, "What are you

24:56

doing?"

24:57

Well, of course. I mean,

24:59

you just it's weird I think the problem

25:01

is like if you I told this story years

25:03

ago it probably would have helped. It's

25:05

so much more acceptable now. Like

25:06

everyone wants to be a YouTuber,

25:07

everyone wants to be a TikToker. Like it

25:10

growing up now like you can just tell by

25:12

the people and and the numbers and

25:13

explosion of social media that like it's

25:15

a lot more widely accepted. And also it

25:17

might also be where I grew up. Like

25:19

North Carolina it's different than LA,

25:21

but back then like it really just was a

25:23

strange thing, you know what I mean? To

25:25

like want to dedicate your life to being

25:27

a YouTuber and being that obsessed.

25:29

Only whatever, less than 10% of the

25:31

world speaks English. So 90% of the

25:32

world can't even enjoy your content. And

25:35

And when I realized that I was like,

25:36

"Wait a minute.

25:37

90% of my the world can't even watch

25:39

this stuff."

25:40

I purposely have a really like dumbed

25:42

down lifestyle. So when cuz it gives you

25:44

freedom. Like, you know, most people

25:46

can't reinvest in a business cuz when

25:48

they get to this level they're worried

25:49

about their $10 million mansion, their

25:50

like four or five cars and insurance and

25:52

keeping up with that. And then like

25:54

their second home and all these other

25:55

things. I just cut it all out. I have no

25:57

like personal debt or like things, you

26:00

know, that I have to pay for. So I can

26:02

just go all in on the business cuz it's

26:03

like it doesn't even matter, you know

26:05

what I mean?

26:05

Imagine a world where it's just you

26:07

working solo. And you work 12 hours a

26:09

day every day for like a year. And

26:11

you're just grinding, you make a

26:12

mistake, you learn from it, you grind,

26:14

you make make, you learn from it. And

26:16

you do that for like a year. And then

26:18

imagine a different world where you have

26:19

four friends who are also equally

26:20

grinding in something similar.

26:22

Friend number one makes a mistake on

26:24

Friday. He teaches the other four

26:25

people. Friend number two makes a

26:26

mistake the next week, teaches everyone.

26:28

And then like you're all learning from

26:29

each other's mistakes. You're all

26:30

constantly studying 24/7 and downloading

26:33

each other. Like after a year, you're

26:35

like two years ahead of the guy who was

26:37

just solo. It really does make a

26:39

difference. Especially like my friend

26:41

group when I was like I met a bunch of

26:42

people when I had 10,000 subscribers and

26:44

we all like we agreed not to drink, we

26:46

didn't do drugs, like we didn't date, we

26:47

didn't do anything. We just literally

26:49

obsessed from the we woke up to the time

26:51

we went to bed. That's literally all we

26:53

did. It's wild. Like

26:54

What piece of advice do you find

26:56

yourself repeating over and over to

26:58

creators and they're just not getting

27:00

it?

27:01

Oh boy, a lot. You know, so here's a fun

27:03

story. I actually I mentor this one guy

27:06

just for fun. I started he was a friend

27:08

medium sized YouTuber. He was doing like

27:10

I think he was doing 20,000 like he 10th

27:13

a month in revenue like 10,000 on one

27:15

channel and like 8,000 a month on

27:16

another channel and this month he

27:19

actually just had his highest revenue

27:20

month ever. He did $400,000 of revenue

27:23

and just by like listening to what I I

27:25

taught him. I know we were able to like

27:26

20x his revenue and I was just like with

27:29

me just once a week just telling him he

27:31

was an idiot and what to do. And I do

27:34

that for a lot of people. I just counsel

27:35

people for fun and help them blow up

27:36

their channels. A lot of times people

27:39

Oh boy, it's like they think their

27:41

videos are better than they are honestly

27:44

and that

27:45

TELL THEM JIMMY, TELL THEM.

27:46

I MEAN THEY DO and and you have to like

27:48

you have to

27:50

and they have horrible friend groups cuz

27:51

you really are like the type of

27:52

YouTubers you hang around and so like a

27:54

lot of times I'm just like what you're

27:56

saying is wrong. Who told you this?

27:58

They're like well this guy and this guy

27:59

and it's like well they're wrong. It's

28:01

not true. And so it's getting people

28:03

with the right YouTuber friend group

28:05

that aren't [ __ ] and will actually

28:06

tell them when their content's bad and

28:08

like actually roast it and and help them

28:10

get better in a nice positive way and

28:12

then usually it's hiring an editor.

28:15

Honestly uploading less videos and just

28:16

making them better. It's much easier to

28:18

get 5 million views on one video than

28:21

50,000 views on 100 videos. Takes way

28:23

less effort to get 5 million views on

28:24

one video. So it's like applying a lot

28:26

of these principles like that and also

28:29

getting it where it's content that they

28:30

enjoy. A lot of people aren't willing to

28:32

put in 10 hours days cuz they don't like

28:34

what they're doing. So it's finding what

28:36

they enjoy because it is like a long

28:38

grind. Like you're doing it for years

28:40

not months. So if you don't enjoy it

28:42

then you're going to burn out and that

28:43

so like that's usually the The thing is

28:45

like figuring out like what are the

28:47

things you're currently doing that you

28:48

don't want to do and like let's figure

28:49

out a way to get someone else to do it

28:51

in the next 5 months so you actually get

28:53

out of bed excited.

28:54

Accomplish a goal. There's so many

28:56

different ways you can achieve what you

28:57

want. You really got to push through

28:58

those which not a lot of people do. You

29:00

have to have like a more of a dominant

29:02

personality and just a willingness to

29:05

when people tell you it's not possible

29:06

just actually go through all the

29:08

variables and eliminate them all

29:09

yourself. For what we do and creators

29:11

online is very imperative. Like we we

29:13

take a personality test and like just

29:15

having a a dominant personality is a

29:17

better indicator that when someone tells

29:18

you oh there's no way you're going to

29:19

build a brick wall for under 100 grand,

29:21

you know, you'll be like okay and then

29:22

still go check the next 10 vendors and

29:24

you know, figure it out.

29:26

ever feel burnt out? Like are there

29:27

times where you feel like

29:28

I think uh tired.

29:29

My definition might be different than

29:31

others, you know, like some people are

29:32

like I'm burnt out, screw this, I'm

29:34

done, I'm done, I'm done. You know, like

29:36

never never at that point but yeah, like

29:39

if if I'm going like, you know, I go

29:41

from the time I get up to the time I go

29:42

to bed like 3 days in a row I'll be like

29:43

okay like kind of want to like take half

29:46

of a day off and like chill or like I'll

29:48

feel it coming and stuff like that but

29:50

this is what I'm doing till the day I

29:51

die. I don't care. Like I love this more

29:53

than anything. Nothing's ever brought me

29:55

a a fraction of the joy.

29:56

I've seen people literally start a

29:58

channel within a month hit 100,000

30:00

subscribers. I've seen it. I personally

30:02

know someone who had a channel with 100

30:03

subscribers and me and my mom boys, you

30:06

know, other YouTubers that I feel like

30:08

have a good understanding of how YouTube

30:09

works. We just helped them optimize the

30:11

video and I don't like to say the name

30:13

of the channels cuz then I feel like I'm

30:14

taking credit for their success but

30:16

literally 100 subscribers he got 3

30:18

million views on a video. And that was

30:20

with no artificial push. It did like 50

30:22

views, you know, 5,000, 10,000, 50,000.

30:26

It just stair stepped up every day and

30:27

so it's 1 million percent possible but

30:31

it's very hard right off the bat to know

30:33

what makes a good video, how to hold a

30:35

viewer, how to get them to click and

30:36

stuff like that. Some people are

30:37

naturally entertaining and retaining a

30:40

viewer is much easier for them and some

30:42

people like me, you just need a long

30:44

time to develop. A lot of it is just

30:46

like you can just tell when a video

30:48

shouldn't go viral. At the beginning of

30:50

the video, just tell like literally the

30:52

simplest thing, just tell them why they

30:53

should watch it, you know? If you're

30:54

putting a million Orbeez in a pool,

30:56

don't start the video with you shopping

30:58

for, you know, your mom's birthday

31:00

present. At the beginning of the video,

31:01

just say, "We're going to put a million

31:03

Orbeez in this pool." And then that

31:05

right there is should, you know, be at

31:07

least slightly sufficient.

31:08

So they'll be able to know what to

31:09

expect. Maybe do a little preview at the

31:11

front.

31:12

Exactly. So for most people, it's just

31:13

that. They're just not hooking viewers

31:15

and their their video ideas just aren't

31:16

that entertaining.

31:17

Do you think your your biggest strength

31:18

is probably your curiosity? That you're

31:20

you're down to do anything and you're

31:21

down

31:21

Well, so I think what you have to do is

31:23

you have to always be learning. All

31:25

right, that's how you can like So like

31:26

with our ideas, right? Cuz we like to do

31:28

original ideas that no one's ever done

31:29

before. Um and I I might have told you

31:31

this when we were talking on the phone.

31:33

Thing is like if there's a hypothetical

31:34

fruit in Japan that if you eat it, makes

31:37

it where you can jump 30 ft taller,

31:38

right? If that exists in this world

31:40

right now, you didn't know it existed.

31:41

So you couldn't come up with something

31:42

around that. It's very hyper specific.

31:44

But there's like a million things like

31:46

that in the world that like if you don't

31:48

know about it or you're not intaking the

31:50

inspiration, you can't really come up

31:51

with something. Like if I were to try to

31:52

get in the stand, like that's how I

31:54

would try to do something different. I

31:55

would just try to take [clears throat]

31:56

intake a bunch of different uh

31:58

information, see what spawns my head. So

32:00

I try to always be learning. End point,

32:02

I'm trying to always expand my uh

32:04

knowledge well in my head with new

32:06

things that I can draw inspiration from.

32:07

Yeah, you had a video of ours that you

32:08

said you were interested in the

32:10

thumbnail, you clicked on it and you

32:11

were bored after 5 seconds.

32:12

you it was the one about the hype house.

32:14

Yeah, why everyone's leaving the hype

32:15

house. Yeah. And I showed them on my

32:16

phone. I was like, I I the title and

32:19

thumbnail made me tap and then the red

32:20

bar was like so tiny you could barely

32:22

see it cuz I clicked off of it 8

32:23

seconds. I was like, "This is me and my

32:25

house 4 days ago before you came down.

32:27

Clearly you just didn't grab me."

32:29

Yeah.

32:29

And yeah, that was really eye-opening

32:31

for us and we now you recognize like I

32:33

think a lot of times you you talk about

32:35

obsessing over the content and and

32:37

really getting into it. And I think

32:39

sometimes it's hard to understand what

32:41

that exactly means. And then when you

32:44

said that, I was like, "Oh, that's what

32:45

it means." It literally means that

32:47

there's a There was a big problem and

32:48

you predicted that about 40% of the

32:51

people left

32:52

Yeah, well, what was it? It was exactly

32:53

40%.

32:54

Yeah.

32:55

And and I I told him the remedy for this

32:57

is they need better friends. 100%. No

33:00

[laughter] no offense to people that are

33:01

their friends. I know that they like

33:03

you, but the fact that no one's like

33:05

calling you up after you uploading that

33:06

and just roasting the hell out of it and

33:08

going like, "Dude, this isn't the best

33:10

you could do." Like and it's not uh a

33:12

knock on you guys. It's actually them

33:13

like someone should say like, "Hey, you

33:15

guys are too smart for this. Like you're

33:16

better than this. You can make a video

33:18

better than this." Which is what you

33:19

should do.

33:20

You can make anything work, but at the

33:21

end of the day it's got to be like

33:22

interesting to the audience, original,

33:24

and just good. You know what I mean? And

33:26

if you hit those, like you can figure

33:28

out a good intro and outro.

33:30

[laughter]

33:30

Well, it's hard because being uh

33:33

it's like it's a weird balance cuz I

33:35

would never I you know, I used to save

33:37

up a dollar a day. Like the my first

33:38

microphone, I had to save up for 3

33:40

months to buy and you know, we didn't

33:41

have any money. It was I had a single

33:43

mom raising me and my my brother and

33:45

sister. So

33:46

it's like that relentless obsession of

33:49

YouTube and reinvesting got us to that

33:51

point. And so building the team to level

33:54

Like if I didn't know how to go viral,

33:55

it doesn't matter if I had a a thousand

33:57

employees. It wouldn't

33:58

like give you. So it was I think for me

34:00

it was it was good that I got a really

34:02

strong foundation on how YouTube works

34:05

and how the style of videos I wanted and

34:06

everything before I scaled up a team if

34:08

that makes any sense. I just want to

34:09

make sure that's clear cuz I've seen

34:10

people try to build the team without

34:12

foundation and and knowing how to do

34:14

well and then it you know, it just

34:15

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, they try

34:17

to build it before basically it's ready

34:19

to be

34:20

Exactly. Like and so that's what gave me

34:22

the confidence to hire people and that's

34:24

why I'm able to run my company at really

34:26

thin margins cuz I have faith and I I

34:28

know that if we film this video, it will

34:30

do well It's cuz I've spent a decade of

34:32

my life hyper obsessing over YouTube and

34:34

I have a good pulse on it. But if you

34:35

didn't have that, then you wouldn't

34:37

know. Like you wouldn't be able to spend

34:38

$4 million on a Squid Game cuz you might

34:40

lose $2 million bucks and then you can't

34:42

pay your people. So it's like

34:43

You There's no such thing as a perfect

34:45

video. Like someone should always call

34:46

you and [ __ ] on your video cuz it could

34:48

be better. Like that's cuz imagine if

34:50

someone does that every video and you

34:52

upload hundreds, if not a thousand

34:54

videos over the next 10 years and every

34:57

single time someone's critiquing you and

34:58

you're applying what they're critiquing.

35:00

Like imagine the compound effect over

35:01

that time span. It's it's invaluable.

35:04

But if you upload 100 videos and very

35:06

few people are [ __ ] on them, then

35:07

like you just lost so much compound

35:09

effect.

35:09

One thing that we realized was everyone

35:11

on your team also is holding you

35:12

accountable for some of those checklist

35:14

items. And that's when we're like, oh we

35:15

need our team to hold us accountable.

35:17

Yeah, cuz sometimes I'm like, no that

35:18

that doesn't actually matter. Like that

35:20

would be an extra two hours of work that

35:21

doesn't matter. And they're like, yeah,

35:23

that would help retention. They're like,

35:25

who the [ __ ] are you? Wait, you don't

35:26

want the perfect video. I'm like, you're

35:27

right, you're right. Let's do it.

35:29

here's my question. If we took you took

35:32

your brain right now and put it into a

35:34

guy with no money and no subscribers. So

35:37

you can't give away money, you can't

35:39

make a million-dollar giveaway video.

35:41

How long would it take you to get to 1

35:43

million subscribers?

35:44

Probably three months, maybe four. From

35:47

zero, easily three or four months. Like

35:49

if that's all that guy was doing, I

35:51

mean, like let me think.

35:54

I would probably just walk across

35:55

America. That would get me on the map

35:57

and then just do some other

35:59

Literally.

36:00

Yeah, some

36:01

some other zero-dollar

36:03

extreme challenges, get some attention,

36:05

take that money. I don't know, maybe

36:06

make a line of paperclips. I think those

36:09

are cheap and stretch it across a state

36:11

or something and then I know

36:14

something, you know, then I'd try to

36:15

swim from like Europe to Africa. That'd

36:16

be a cool stunt or something. I've

36:18

thought about this before. That would

36:20

pop off, do the thumbnail of me just

36:21

swimming in the middle of the ocean.

36:23

Like I I don't want to do it now cuz

36:24

there's easier stuff, but I would do it.

36:26

Like Strait of Gibraltar, it's like four

36:28

4 miles or something. You could swim

36:29

that.

36:30

Yeah, but then you can you know, imagine

36:31

a title, I swam from Europe to Africa.

36:33

Like that would pop off.

36:35

Uh or I swam across the ocean or

36:36

something. I mean, yeah, easily. Like I

36:38

could figure out a blueprint and then I

36:40

just suffer for 4 months and then I'd

36:41

have a million subscribers.

36:43

[laughter]

36:44

So typically, if you're doing a longer

36:45

video, you should introduce like a side

36:47

story and like re- you should have some

36:49

plan halfway through like to re-engage

36:51

them so they don't just get bored, you

36:53

know what I mean? Like

36:54

If I just said

36:55

Like if I hand you a camera and I had a

36:56

camera and I was like, "Okay, if he tags

36:57

me, he gets a hundred grand." And then I

36:59

just run and that's it. It's just me

37:00

running through the woods and him just

37:02

running through the woods after me. You

37:03

can't make a 15-minute video out of it,

37:05

you know what I mean? I mean, you could

37:07

probably paint a bowling ball and people

37:08

would find it entertaining. Like there's

37:09

an audience for everything. If you got a

37:11

good personality, you're passionate and

37:12

like, you know, you present it in a way

37:14

where it's entertaining. Like

37:15

Do you have a lot of guys that are

37:16

trying to copy the format that you've

37:18

put together?

37:19

Um yeah, I just I The thing is

37:23

it doesn't matter. It doesn't really

37:24

affect I don't like to waste energy

37:26

worrying about that type of stuff. The

37:27

end of the day, it's like it doesn't

37:28

hurt me, so

37:29

Right.

37:30

And actually probably helps you.

37:31

Yeah, exactly.

37:31

Because everyone gets compared to Mr.

37:33

Beast.

37:33

Yeah, like a lot of YouTubers get like

37:34

triggered when other people

37:36

quote-unquote take their ideas or or

37:37

whatever, but

37:38

Do they though?

37:38

They they really do. I mean, that's like

37:40

a all the time. Like someone will do

37:42

something like and it's funny, it's

37:43

usually like people who copy tons of

37:45

other YouTubers and they do one thing

37:46

original and then some other people take

37:47

it and they just throw a hissy fit.

37:48

Yeah, that's it.

37:49

I like pushing myself and I see it as a

37:51

sport and like going hard in business

37:53

and and building them. Um even though

37:56

it's stressful and it's very difficult

37:57

and like sometimes I'm like, you know,

37:59

you have a mental breakdown. You're

38:00

like, "Why am I doing this? Why did I

38:01

push myself so hard?" But then when

38:03

you're not doing it, you're just

38:04

depressed. And so it's like a weird

38:07

system, a weird situation, but I love

38:09

it, but sometimes I don't.

38:10

It's a you have like as YouTubers,

38:12

especially people who build side

38:13

businesses and have side channels,

38:14

there's like 50 things that need to be

38:16

done and if you split your time amongst

38:17

it, they're all only getting a few

38:19

percentage of your time. So like someone

38:21

should be able to do that job better

38:22

than you cuz they're giving it 100% of

38:24

their time. And that's like the OP part

38:26

about hiring people.

38:27

Where is the source of that learning

38:28

even for you now?

38:29

It's uh

38:30

Just look at the metrics.

38:31

I just got back from a No, I mean, I

38:32

just got back from a mastermind where I

38:34

just got like, you know, 10 of the

38:35

smartest people I knew and we just

38:37

locked ourselves in a cabin and taught

38:38

each other stuff. Um constantly, every

38:41

day. Not every day now, probably every

38:42

other day I go on a walk and I just call

38:44

random people. I'll just say, "Yeah,

38:45

teach me something." Uh you just have to

38:47

have a never-ending thirst for learning.

38:49

Like, that's very imperative, especially

38:51

if you want like if you want to get on

38:52

top and then stay on top. The only way

38:54

to do it is just to constantly be

38:55

learning or someone who is learning is

38:57

just going to you know, have a leg up on

38:58

you in the knowledge game.

38:59

Like, my teenage years were spent

39:01

studying virality and studying content

39:02

creation. Now, I'm studying how to build

39:04

a content company so I can actually

39:06

produce the crazy ideas I wanted to

39:08

produce, if that makes any sense.

39:09

Anything we make off of reacts get put

39:10

in the main channel, which is how we

39:12

kind of got here because I got to the

39:13

point where the main channel would make

39:15

hypothetically a few million dollars and

39:17

I'd spend a few million dollars a month

39:18

and I was like, "Well, how can I get

39:20

more money to burn?" And so then we

39:21

started gaming and then gaming started

39:23

making money and I'd just take that

39:24

money and the next month throw it on the

39:26

main channel and I'd say, "Oh, this is

39:27

working well." And then we started

39:29

reacts and now we just take a few

39:30

hundred grand a month from that and we

39:31

just throw it on the main channel.

39:33

And just like, these things exist just

39:35

to pump money into the main channel.

39:37

What's your biggest insecurity?

39:38

Like, our videos are very fast-paced and

39:41

so sometimes you do have to give up a

39:42

little bit of the story in order to keep

39:44

the videos moving. If anything, it would

39:46

be that. Like, a lot of people think the

39:48

only reason we get views is cuz I just

39:49

throw money at it and they don't realize

39:51

that, you know, we spent a decade just

39:53

studying what does well, um you know,

39:56

studying figuring out our own style,

39:58

figuring out our own way to do things

39:59

and that amount of hours I put into like

40:02

just expanding the inspiration in my

40:03

brain just so I can come up with

40:04

original ideas and the like the months

40:06

and months we spend building the sets

40:07

and working on it and the weeks we spend

40:09

editing and all this. And then, you

40:11

know, they're just like, "Oh, that he

40:12

just spent money. That's it. That's

40:14

there's nothing special." You know what

40:15

I mean?

40:15

What I found is like yeah, like

40:18

you heard the dictionary story. I I work

40:19

well off inspiration. And so I found

40:21

it'd be better just to kind of have

40:23

people come up with ideas roughly and

40:25

then then I ingest them cuz dude, half

40:27

those ideas aren't good and I wouldn't

40:28

film. But then when I read them, it

40:30

inspires me and I'm like, no, first to

40:32

finish race wins 100 grand, like that's

40:33

too simple. But first person to climb a

40:35

mountain wins 100 grand, it's good. And

40:37

so I like when people just give me

40:39

inspiration and then I just

40:41

What makes one good and the other bad?

40:43

I think running a race is like, people

40:45

have done that. It's like generic, it's

40:48

whatever. But like first to climb

40:50

mountain and like a thumbnail of someone

40:51

climbing the side of a mountain and the

40:53

thought of someone climbing a mountain

40:54

is extreme. Like the that's adrenaline,

40:57

it's interesting. Like to me climbing a

40:59

mountain is more interesting than

41:00

running a marathon. I only watch things

41:02

that like inspired me. So I would like

41:04

try to watch a different show or

41:05

different things or different genres for

41:07

inspiration. And I like I would I had a

41:09

what I would call like an info diet and

41:11

I would always like try to add new

41:13

things. So I was so obsessed with how to

41:14

in Cuz really like

41:16

Like if I tell you to come up with an

41:17

idea, you're just going to

41:19

whatever. You're going to be like

41:20

Gatorade or water or whatever.

41:21

With all this data, your your brain is

41:24

sort of a tuned algorithm itself of like

41:27

like evaluating, I think it's so

41:29

interesting watching you evaluate like

41:31

titles.

41:32

Like what you're saying is like, I like

41:34

bananas. And what you need is bananas

41:36

are the best god damn food on the

41:37

planet. Like that's the type of opinion

41:39

you need. Like you need something like,

41:42

how to get 100 million views on YouTube.

41:44

But not even that, that's not strong

41:46

enough. You need something that makes

41:47

people go, what the [ __ ] You know, and

41:49

like click, you know what I mean?

41:51

[laughter]

41:52

Dude, I want to click whatever video

41:53

you're selling me right now, dude. Yes,

41:55

that video, that's what I want to watch.

41:57

Yeah, but that's hyper specific to you.

41:58

But you see what I'm saying? It needs to

42:00

be extreme. It needs to be like, how to

42:02

go viral. That's not going to cause

42:03

someone to go damn. If I don't click

42:05

that, I'm not going to be able to sleep

42:07

at night. You need something that legit

42:09

will have people be like,

42:11

what the [ __ ] did he say in that video?

42:12

What the [ __ ] I need to know.

42:14

You good at school?

42:15

No, horrible.

42:16

Really?

42:16

God-awful.

42:17

Wow, okay.

42:18

Yeah, that was like I mean, I would act

42:20

like I was studying, but you know, I was

42:22

filming videos. I actually my entire

42:24

high school career never brought my book

42:25

bag home or anything. I would just like

42:26

throw it under like the bleachers and

42:28

then in the morning I'd just grab it.

42:30

Your first video is what? You were like

42:31

12, right?

42:32

Yeah, actually I started making when I

42:33

was 11. I don't know, we probably spend

42:35

like 20, 30 times longer thinking of

42:37

ideas than other people. We probably

42:38

film like 10 times more than other

42:40

people. We probably spend 100 times for

42:41

a video more than other people. So, it's

42:43

like we put in the effort, but I don't I

42:45

don't know how to say it where it's not

42:46

arrogant. I just believe in what we're

42:47

doing, you know what I mean?

42:49

Back then, like how much do you think

42:51

you believed when you when you recorded

42:52

that video that that was actually going

42:53

to

42:53

Oh, no. I mean, those were just

42:54

different times. I was in the middle of

42:56

[ __ ] nowhere, Arcadia. So, it's like

42:58

everyone, you know, constantly wanted to

43:00

remind me you're not going to be a

43:01

YouTuber. Go out, be realistic.

43:03

If I open a dictionary here and we just,

43:05

you know, flip to a random page and we

43:07

pick a word and the word's flowers,

43:09

right? Then we'll be like, "Okay,

43:11

uh I bought a flower. I I gave my

43:14

girlfriend a flower. I gave my

43:15

girlfriend 100,000 flowers. I gave my

43:17

girlfriend 100,000 flowers on

43:18

Valentine's Day, right? You just go like

43:20

that. I gave Tariq 100,000 flowers. I

43:23

put 100,000 flowers in the moon." You do

43:25

that for a few minutes and then you just

43:27

flip to a new page and you're like,

43:28

"What's this word?" And you just like

43:29

So, you that's the like the slowest form

43:32

of doing it and the worst way to do it,

43:34

but that's intaking inspiration, getting

43:36

inspired, and seeing what comes out. And

43:38

it's really just doing that and the more

43:40

effectively you can take in inspiration

43:42

and see what happens in your brain, the

43:44

better ideas.

43:45

See, that's the effect you want. Most

43:46

people when they watch for the YouTubers

43:48

watching this, when people watch your

43:49

video, they go, "Okay, that was good,

43:51

but like that's enough of of you for the

43:53

day. Like it was it was all right,

43:54

right?" Whereas, what you want is them

43:55

to go, "Holy crap, that was crazy. Oh my

43:57

god, what's that? Holy crap, that was

43:59

crazy. Oh my god." And they just and

44:01

they watch 10 videos, not one, and then

44:04

need like a week break because it was so

44:06

eh that they have to recharge. You know

44:08

what I mean? That's that's what you're

44:09

going for that data can't describe. And

44:12

like I don't think I've never heard

44:14

anyone talk about that, but that that is

44:15

it. That's how you get these high view

44:17

counts because people watch 10 videos,

44:19

not one, you know?

44:20

But for me, because we just had this

44:22

ability to go viral, it's just kind of

44:25

like there's a world where I make videos

44:26

that I don't help people and there's a

44:28

world where I make videos and I do help

44:29

people. The one where I do help people

44:31

is just a little bit more fun, so that's

44:32

why I do it. I don't You know, PR

44:34

manager should have a better answer, but

44:36

that's kind of the truth.

44:37

What was the first movie that you saw

44:38

where you're like, "Oh my god, I was

44:39

blown away." For me it was Jurassic

44:41

Park.

44:41

Um

44:42

As a kid.

44:43

I I only watched YouTube growing up. I

44:45

haven't seen a

44:45

That's it.

44:46

I know when we have a really good video.

44:48

Exactly.

44:48

Like I know it's really good and that

44:50

that the title and the thumbnail

44:51

If you upload a video and you're not

44:53

like you're

44:55

you're not like, "This is a banger. This

44:56

is going to bang, no doubt in my mind."

44:58

Even though you're going to be wrong 9%

44:59

of the time, then it's not a good enough

45:01

video. You still have to have that

45:02

feeling even if you should have spent

45:03

more time

45:03

Let the audience tell you you're wrong.

45:05

Don't put it out when you already know

45:06

you're wrong.

45:07

Exactly. And it's not because they know

45:09

who I am. It's just because the videos

45:11

are good. They they just are. They're

45:13

interesting, they have good retention,

45:14

they have good pacing, you can't find

45:16

them anywhere else, and you know, the

45:18

last the thing I want to leave people

45:20

with is people think it's like, "Oh

45:21

well, it's all like CTR and stuff like

45:24

that." But a big thing that everyone

45:26

[ __ ] underestimates is it's What What

45:29

was your experience with your last

45:30

video? If people loved your the last

45:32

video of yours that they watched,

45:34

they're more likely to watch your next

45:35

one.

45:35

One thing is like I also I'm obsessed

45:37

with learning and so it was very

45:38

important I found someone that also

45:40

likes learning. So she loves reading

45:42

books, she loves like experiencing

45:43

things. So I I don't see like taking

45:45

like an art class as a waste of time cuz

45:47

that might creatively inspire me or like

45:48

a pottery class or even going and

45:50

shooting guns or whatever, some some new

45:52

thing. So

45:54

uh usually it's like us doing something

45:55

like that where in my head I'm learning

45:57

something and I can kind of justify the

45:59

time, you know what I mean?

46:00

Yeah. To my like business obsessed brain

46:02

cell. So it's that. And then And it's

46:04

also good to unwind. Um and you know,

46:06

[music] so you can actually go to bed at

46:08

a reasonable time and not just lay there

46:09

working your head. Hey, you should

46:11

subscribe right now. That you know, a

46:13

lot of people who wouldn't have done it

46:14

cuz they just didn't think of it are now

46:15

thinking about it and it will convert to

46:17

like 10 or 20,000. So literally just say

46:19

it and you're good. And that's all I do.

46:21

And wake up and I do that thing. And

46:23

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:23

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:24

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:25

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:26

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:27

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:27

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:28

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:29

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:30

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:31

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:31

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:32

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:33

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:34

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:35

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:36

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:36

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:37

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:38

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:39

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:40

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:40

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:41

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:42

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:43

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:44

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:44

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:45

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:46

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:47

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:48

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:49

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:49

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:50

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:51

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:52

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:53

do that thing. And that's that's all I

46:53

do. I wake up and I do that thing. And

46:54

that's that's all I do. I wake up and I

46:55

I do that thing.

46:56

And it's funny also talking about like

46:57

obsession and stuff like this cuz it's

46:59

funny how it changes. So I when you're

47:01

like maybe it's different now cuz social

47:02

media is a little bit cooler, but when I

47:04

was younger like no one wanted to be a

47:05

YouTuber. Like most people when I was

47:07

13, 14 didn't even have phones yet. Like

47:09

it was kind of like a little bit of an

47:10

older thing. And maybe it's just cuz

47:11

where I grew up, but it's funny cuz back

47:13

then people are like, "Get a life. Stop

47:15

being a [ __ ] nerd. Like you're too

47:16

obsessive. You're weirdo." And then now

47:19

it's like, "Oh, bro. He was so

47:20

obsessive. He's It's so great."

47:22

Right. It's seen as a positive quality.

47:24

And it's so funny like looking back on

47:26

my life going from a [ __ ] loser nerd

47:28

who's too obsessive and won't go

47:30

anywhere to like, "Damn, that's really

47:31

inspiring." And it's like, "Damn."

47:33

My team pushes back on me pretty

47:34

hardcore.

47:36

Which I want. I don't want yes men. And

47:38

they're they're like

47:40

they're

47:41

James, you know, the CEO who helped me

47:43

build all this

47:44

is very adamant. Like we're not yes men

47:46

and and he trains people to really think

47:48

for themselves. And even when I give

47:49

them orders to like really think like is

47:50

this optimal? Is there context or

47:52

information Jimmy could be missing that

47:53

I could provide that could help him make

47:55

a more updated decision. Like I'm not

47:57

God, you know what I mean? Like I'm

47:59

human and make errors. And so don't take

48:01

what I say as the Bible.

48:02

You just really boil it down to the

48:03

people who are watching. Just think

48:05

about it. Like what what do you think

48:07

YouTube wants? Like to me, I think

48:09

YouTube just wants people to click on a

48:10

video and watch it, right? I mean,

48:12

that's how they get their ad revenue.

48:14

That's how they keep you know viewers

48:15

happy and stuff like that. I mean, I

48:17

sure comments, likes, stuff like that.

48:19

But at the end of the day, they want you

48:20

to click, watch the video, click, watch

48:22

the video and just do that as long as

48:24

possible. So to me, what's important is

48:27

click-through rate, getting people to

48:28

click on your video, and then average

48:30

view duration, average view percentage,

48:31

or just relative retention. And you

48:33

know, having them watch it. If people

48:35

are clicking your video more than they

48:36

click other videos and they're watching

48:38

it longer than they watch other videos,

48:40

you know, I just as simplistic as that

48:43

is, that's like what YouTube wants and I

48:45

think that's how you just you know, be

48:47

successful.

48:48

Oh, so wait a minute. We spend the first

48:50

18 years of our life trying to fit in.

48:52

That's how I felt in school. I was

48:53

trying to fit in all the time. What do

48:54

What do people do that's cool? How do I

48:56

do that thing?

48:57

Right.

48:57

And then once I was like in the adult

48:59

world, it's like, oh [ __ ] now we spend

49:00

our whole life trying to stand out. Like

49:02

what what was all that other [ __ ] Why

49:03

was I why was I so focused on fitting in

49:05

if the rest of your life you're trying

49:06

to stand out? And I just realized like,

49:08

oh [ __ ] standing out has been the game

49:09

the whole time. And the way you stand

49:11

out is not by trying to figure it out.

49:13

Just like whatever you're obsessed with,

49:15

just let that ride cuz you'll go on a

49:17

path that nobody else is going to copy

49:18

and then you'll you know, you'll land in

49:20

a good spot. So if my kid, like my

49:21

daughter's two right now,

49:23

Right.

49:23

if she was into gaming or she was trying

49:25

to be a creator, all that stuff, I would

49:27

be all in on it cuz I know even if

49:29

that's not your end game, following your

49:31

obsession is like the thing to do in

49:34

life, you know, that will always work

49:35

out with you know, if you like actually

49:37

go down that path. What most people do

49:39

is they hedge.

49:40

They like this thing, but then they see

49:42

this path that's more proven or shiny or

49:45

they don't know if it's going to work,

49:46

so they only half try, right? And then

49:47

it's like that hedge is actually what

49:48

gets you. It's not that this career path

49:50

was that hard. It's that hedging.

49:52

Imagine spending

49:53

10 years of your life only thinking

49:54

about one thing every waking hour of the

49:56

day.

49:56

You mentioned earlier that people were

49:57

like, "You don't have a life." Right?

49:59

But we've been here. We spent all day

50:00

with you yesterday. Behind the scenes, I

50:02

feel like you do have a life. Like your

50:04

life is YouTube.

50:06

The thing is like, you're an idiot until

50:08

you're successful. Then you're smart.

50:09

Whatever. You know what I mean? So, it's

50:10

just At some point you cross that

50:12

tipping point and people go from judging

50:13

you and being like, "You're too

50:15

obsessed. What you're freak. Blah blah

50:16

blah." to like, "Oh, like whoa,

50:19

congrats. Look at you. You you hire

50:21

people and provide jobs. Like you're

50:22

cool. Good job." You know what I mean?

50:24

Yeah, that's kind of blurry where that

50:25

line changes.

50:26

For me, um and it might not always show.

50:29

Trust me. I And I know I might sound

50:30

like I come across as a know-it-all.

50:32

[laughter]

50:32

I swear, I'm still learning stuff every

50:34

day. When filming though, I like to try

50:36

to just put it I I feel like a lot of

50:38

creators have a mindset of like, "How

50:40

can I get the most views with least

50:41

amount of time?" And I'm not saying

50:43

that's wrong, you know, um cuz obviously

50:46

I have that mindset sometimes too, but I

50:48

try to when filming put in as much work.

50:51

Even if it's like a 15-second part of a

50:53

video, even if that one little part will

50:55

take like 10 hours, you know? But like

50:58

hypothetically, right? But that that 15

51:01

seconds is like, "Wow, like that's

51:02

great." Like I I feel like viewers

51:04

genuinely notice when you go the extra

51:06

mile. Try to make sure we're doing

51:07

everything we can, no matter how

51:09

expensive it is, no matter how much time

51:10

it takes, to make the best video

51:12

possible so they have the best

51:13

experience and so they want to, you

51:15

know, obviously watch more videos cuz

51:16

that's what you want the viewers to do.

51:18

And then with editing, just no dull

51:20

moments, you know, have a good hook at

51:22

the beginning. Um some minor tips I

51:25

could give is like, you know, if I do a

51:26

video like Last Leaf Circle wins 10

51:28

grand, obviously people are going to

51:30

watch to the end because they want to

51:32

see who won the money. So, have it you

51:34

could apply that to your videos. If

51:36

somehow you could have a payoff at the

51:38

end, [snorts] then, you know, more

51:40

people are going to watch to the end

51:41

just to see what happened.

51:43

With him, what's invariable is like

51:45

90% of creators, like if they had that

51:47

number one spot in that long, they would

51:49

would have been such egotistical pricks

51:52

to like would have changed and you know,

51:54

he never wears designer clothes or

51:56

flexes on people or looks down on

51:57

people. A lot of his friends and the

51:59

people he has in his videos aren't like

52:00

super clouded out, you know what I mean?

52:02

Like that is that's the thing that I

52:04

would take away from him. Like it's

52:05

really respectable that like he he

52:07

really didn't change much, you know?

52:08

Mhm.

52:08

Where our goals with the algorithm are

52:11

to try to find videos each viewer is

52:13

going to, you know, engage with. This is

52:15

kind of recognizing the fact that yes,

52:17

we optimize and try to, you know, have

52:19

watch time as one of the key metrics we

52:21

look at, but we also know that not all

52:24

watch time is equally valuable to the

52:26

person watching. You know, you can

52:27

spend, you know, 15 minutes watching

52:29

something and then feel like, "Nah, I

52:32

just kind of wasted my time. I should

52:34

have, you know, gone to bed earlier or

52:35

did something else." Yeah.

52:37

Yeah.

52:37

Or maybe it was like really inspiring

52:39

and and and changes your life somehow.

52:41

And we want to be able to capture that

52:43

difference. I'd encourage creators to

52:45

think about what's going to be

52:46

satisfying, not just take the most time.

52:49

Obviously everything starts with an

52:50

idea. And for me, um I like to make my

52:53

videos a little longer. So that's a big

52:56

part of what ideas we do. Um so I just

52:59

don't see why it won't work, you know?

53:01

Absolutely. Absolutely.

53:02

Um and so like what's interesting too is

53:04

like before I even promoted it, we were

53:06

doing pretty good sales because a lot of

53:07

people when they open up Uber Eats or

53:09

Grubhub, they just they're like, "Oh,

53:11

it's that guy from YouTube." They try it

53:12

out. So it's a lot of like sales from

53:14

that which is basically like free promo.

53:16

And it's like so like having a virtual

53:18

restaurant like having a billboard in

53:19

these delivery apps. And so my main

53:21

channel is 60% American and like

53:23

whatever, the UK is like 10, 15%, but on

53:26

my Espanol channel it's 1% American.

53:28

It's literally a whole new audience.

53:30

No way.

53:30

Yeah. And so these are people like I'm

53:32

literally number one trending in Mexico

53:35

with videos that I uploaded two years

53:36

ago. Oh boy, that's definitely changed

53:39

over the years. I mean, I watch a ton of

53:41

anime. I love anime. It's like it's so

53:44

creative and different and I feel like

53:46

that inspires me. So, number one's anime

53:48

and then number two is like

53:50

I just try to watch a bunch of different

53:52

stuff, so I'm just always learning cuz

53:54

uh

53:55

you know, you you can never learn

53:56

enough. And like there could be just one

53:57

simple thing you learn through watching

53:59

like an educational video that just like

54:01

changes how you think and like allows

54:03

you to just make better decisions for

54:04

the rest of your life.

54:05

Cut out all dull moments, try not to

54:06

overexplain things. If the camera just

54:08

sits on me and I'm just talking for 20

54:10

seconds, it doesn't hold their attention

54:11

as well as, you know, maybe me talking

54:13

and other footage popping up. There's

54:15

things like that if you just, you know,

54:16

there's literally in your analytics and

54:18

most of you probably know this, audience

54:19

retention. You can see where people

54:20

click off. Just literally go through

54:23

your last 50 videos, write down where

54:25

everyone clicked off, and then just

54:26

don't do those things again.

54:28

Do you see yourself getting out of the

54:29

space anytime soon?

54:30

I think YouTube's going to grow even

54:32

bigger. Like

54:33

Of course.

54:33

Yeah, I mean like it look at it like 85%

54:36

of the the phones in the world run on

54:37

Android, which has YouTube preinstalled

54:39

and Google obviously funnels people into

54:41

YouTube. So, I think in 10 years

54:43

YouTube's going to be ginormous and I

54:44

just want to be the best YouTuber in the

54:46

world in 10 years. I think YouTube's

54:47

going to get bigger bigger and bigger.

54:49

It comes installed on every Android

54:51

device, which is like 85% of all

54:52

operating systems and 90% of searches in

54:56

the West are on Google, which YouTube

54:57

pops up on. I think you know, like I've

55:00

told you guys multiple times, gaming

55:01

viewership in the last 2 years has

55:02

doubled. Like you can throw up the

55:03

tweet, the reports, like that's factual.

55:05

In the last 2 years. And 2 years ago,

55:06

gaming was freaking huge and it's

55:08

doubled. I think YouTube in 10 years is

55:10

going to be bigger than we all imagine.

55:12

I have no no freaking doubt in my mind.

55:14

When you say study YouTube, is taking a

55:16

YouTube video, whether it's yours or

55:17

another really popular video, right? We

55:19

were talking about Vox yesterday. Cuz

55:20

that's the closest thing to what we're

55:21

trying to do, right? Is Vox. And so I

55:24

think one strategy is to take that video

55:26

and actually take a notepad out and just

55:28

write what's happening in the video.

55:29

Exactly.

55:30

Literally write down like the first 30

55:32

seconds, what is happening? And that's

55:33

what I did with your FBI video cuz I was

55:34

like, okay, let me just understand what

55:36

was Jimmy talking about? What's

55:37

happening in this video? And then when

55:39

you write it down, you're like, wait a

55:40

second, 40 seconds has gone by, this

55:43

many scene changes have happened.

55:45

was it? Like a dozen?

55:46

It was at over 12, yeah.

55:47

Unbelievable, yeah.

55:47

Yeah, it was over 12 scene changes.

55:49

There was introduction of new

55:51

information at each, maybe

55:54

Yep.

55:54

you know, 6 seconds, and you had added

55:57

in a twist by 40 seconds where the

55:59

The telephone pole and the entire time

56:01

there's tension of him chasing me. Yep.

56:03

Exactly.

56:03

A lot of people don't have that desire

56:05

that to to to learn and then apply the

56:07

information that has been learned.

56:08

Which is fine. I mean, like some people

56:10

do YouTube for fun, some people do it

56:12

just to pay off their mortgage of the

56:13

house. Like everyone has different

56:14

goals. But if you really want to be the

56:16

best in goddamn world, it's like Michael

56:17

Jordan says, you're not trying to get 1%

56:19

better, you're trying to get 1 10,000%

56:20

better. And if you do that every day,

56:22

like it adds up.

56:23

We don't want to play the game, we want

56:24

to change the way the game is played.

56:25

to dominate, in a way. As an

56:27

non-arrogant way.

56:28

Yeah. [laughter]

56:29

I like to end a series or a challenge on

56:32

a high note. Like you can just kind of

56:33

tell when people are getting a little

56:34

tired of it, or you know, I just gave

56:36

away a million dollars last to hand off

56:38

of it. So now if I do last to do blank

56:40

wins 10 grand, it's just not really the

56:41

same effect. But some I'm still going to

56:43

maybe occasionally do it, but it's just

56:45

like to keep things fresh, just again,

56:48

it's hard because so many of them are

56:49

different. Like if they're Fortnite

56:51

creator, you know, I'm not trying to

56:53

trying to tell them to switch games

56:54

every month cuz then that might kill

56:56

their career. But for me,

56:58

Me.

56:59

I just like to, you know, don't milk a

57:01

series too hard, you know what I mean?

57:03

Keep it fresh and always

57:04

Yeah.

57:05

introduce things here and there, and

57:06

then if it if it works, we'll take it

57:08

and run with it for a little bit, then

57:09

introduce something else new. Because if

57:11

I

57:12

as few as possible. That's the only

57:13

question you should ask me. Subscribers

57:15

don't matter, views don't matter. I

57:16

mean, they do, but all that comes,

57:18

everything you want as a creator comes

57:21

from making the best videos possible,

57:22

and thumbnails.

57:23

But it's easier to, you know, make

57:25

thumbnails. The video part's the hard

57:27

part, and that's the thing that you're

57:28

known for. No one's known for having No

57:30

one's like the biggest YouTuber in the

57:31

world because they have the best

57:32

thumbnails, right? It's also because

57:34

they have great phenomenal content. You

57:36

know what I mean? Like that that's the

57:38

hard part that very few people do well.

57:40

And that's what people remember. You

57:41

know what I mean? Like

57:43

you're not going to have some random

57:44

dude when you're walking down the street

57:45

of Paris go like, "Yo, that's the guy

57:47

with the great thumbnails." You know,

57:48

they're going to be like, "No, that's

57:49

the guy with the phenomenal videos that

57:51

whatever, you know, held his breath for

57:53

40 minutes underwater or things like

57:54

that." So, that's a tip for you guys but

57:57

also you guys watching. Ask, "How can I

57:59

make my videos better?" Do that every

58:01

single day for years and then you'll

58:03

probably get views.

58:04

At the end of the day like the idea is a

58:06

big part of the video, you know,

58:09

not even just from clicking it but

58:10

whether or not people watch it, you

58:11

know, if you're spending 24 hours in a

58:13

corner that's just not as entertaining

58:15

as being 24 hours in a jail cell. And at

58:17

the end of the day like the only

58:18

difference there is the idea, it's not

58:20

the content, it's like it's what you

58:22

formulated beforehand. So, yeah, like I

58:25

like to spend an hour a day and I as

58:27

Dwindle recently we have a lot of ideas

58:29

but if you spend an hour a day thinking

58:31

of ideas it's pretty hard to not expect

58:33

your channel to do better, you know. Um

58:36

unless you're just not executing them

58:37

properly but

58:38

The only downside is a lot of people

58:40

copy my every move and then like I've

58:42

spent 5 years building how we do

58:43

everything and like I've spent tens of

58:45

millions of dollars [ __ ] up so I can

58:47

learn from it and like hiring and how we

58:49

do things. Any YouTuber I ever collab

58:50

with they always leave and they're like,

58:52

"Oh, everything makes a million times

58:54

more sense now." Like I know what I

58:55

should do.

58:55

How do you keep from burning out?

58:57

Like if there's something that like I

58:59

genuinely just don't want to get out of

59:00

bed and do that's a problem. At the end

59:02

of the day it's just keeping it

59:03

enjoyable. So, I have Chris and Chandler

59:06

if you've seen my videos they're really

59:08

fun to be around. So, like you know,

59:09

spending 24 for 24 hours in a desert by

59:11

myself would be miserable but spending

59:13

24 hours with my boys and just hanging

59:16

out and stuff like that makes it so much

59:17

more fun. So, for me I dude this might

59:20

not apply to like 90% of you but for me

59:22

creating an environment that's fun that

59:24

I get excited for and then you know,

59:26

outsourcing things that just make me not

59:28

want to get out of bed. I don't know a

59:29

different way to phrase it. That's what

59:32

has [snorts] helped, you know, long-term

59:33

make me stay motivated. So, 2 years ago

59:35

is when I got brought Chris on and

59:37

finally got a little bit of help, but

59:39

for like the first 6-7 years, it was all

59:41

me.

59:42

I would act like I was going to college,

59:43

and then I would like just sit in my car

59:44

in the college campus and just work on

59:46

videos or edit or um just work on a

59:49

script or something, and then I'd come

59:50

home and I'd be like, "Hey, Mom, college

59:52

is great." And then I'd keep working and

59:55

um

59:55

That can't last for that long.

59:56

Yeah. No, and thankfully, I don't I

59:58

don't remember what happened. I remember

1:00:00

sitting in like on the stairs in front

1:00:01

of one of the college classrooms. I was

1:00:03

like talking to James, one of the people

1:00:04

you met. I was like, "Yo, I don't know

1:00:06

what the [ __ ] going on, but like I've

1:00:07

just been grinding grinding every hour

1:00:09

of the day, and I just made like 20

1:00:10

grand a month." I was like, "I'm ready

1:00:11

to like tell Mom I that I'm failing

1:00:13

every class, and I I'll move out

1:00:15

tomorrow." He's like, "Okay." And I just

1:00:17

I pictured that cuz it's like 11:00

1:00:19

p.m., and I'm just pacing, and I'm like,

1:00:21

"Yeah, Mom, I

1:00:22

I'm I have zeros in everything. I

1:00:23

haven't been going." I was like, "Yeah,

1:00:25

I'll move out tomorrow."

1:00:26

And then I moved out the next day, and

1:00:28

she was so mad. But, I was starting to

1:00:30

finally make money, and so I could

1:00:32

afford to move out.

1:00:33

And if we are getting a little deeper,

1:00:34

it was it was pretty hard like cuz like

1:00:36

all throughout high school, people would

1:00:37

tell me I was too obsessed and told me

1:00:39

like you shouldn't spend so much time on

1:00:40

this. My mom and I fought constantly cuz

1:00:43

like I just wanted to make videos

1:00:44

instead of doing schoolwork. And when I

1:00:47

dropped out of college, she kicked me

1:00:49

out. You know, my mom's like really

1:00:51

sweet, and she cares about me, but she's

1:00:52

like, "Go to college or leave." And I

1:00:54

was like, "I guess I have to leave." So,

1:00:56

it was just it was a lot of ups and

1:00:58

downs in every part of the way to me cuz

1:01:01

I just knew that this is what I wanted

1:01:03

to do. I just I couldn't see a life

1:01:05

where I wasn't a YouTuber. It was either

1:01:07

I'm a YouTuber and happy, or I'm sad.

1:01:10

That was those were like the only two

1:01:11

outcomes. So, I just kept making videos

1:01:13

and persevering, and a big thing is I I

1:01:16

um tried to connect with other YouTubers

1:01:19

cuz a lot of what I know and what I've

1:01:20

gone over, I wouldn't know without other

1:01:22

YouTubers. So, I I would constantly spam

1:01:24

like a dozen YouTubers a day. And like

1:01:26

the first few people that I finally got

1:01:28

in contact with, I learned so much off

1:01:29

of and they helped me understand how to

1:01:31

make an entertaining video and stuff

1:01:32

like that.

1:01:32

Even at the end of the day, like

1:01:34

attention is so just powerful. You know

1:01:36

what I mean? And I like in a way,

1:01:38

obviously, you

1:01:39

Attention attention is powerful. That's

1:01:40

the thesis. 100% 100%.

1:01:42

like really like, you know, just get big

1:01:45

and just maintain it for a decade, like

1:01:47

it's

1:01:47

I honestly, I just want to keep making

1:01:49

better and better and better videos. And

1:01:51

that doesn't always mean money, and

1:01:53

that's something I'm coming to terms

1:01:55

with, especially after doing a million

1:01:56

dollar giveaway. There are, you know,

1:01:58

time, effort, creativity. There are

1:01:59

other ways to make a better video. So, I

1:02:02

just want to keep making better videos,

1:02:04

do yearly fundraiser things. And I I

1:02:07

love YouTube. I want to be doing this

1:02:08

for the next 10 years. This is all I

1:02:09

want to do. I don't want to do anything

1:02:10

else in my life.

1:02:11

I think it's like 90% of the searches in

1:02:14

the west or whatever go through Google.

1:02:16

And Google obviously owns YouTube. So,

1:02:18

obviously a lot of that will go to

1:02:20

YouTube. And so, I think, you know,

1:02:21

YouTube's only going to get bigger and

1:02:22

bigger. It's a great place to be. To be

1:02:24

honest, I don't think there's

1:02:26

that many more lucrative companies

1:02:29

really out there than being a YouTuber.

1:02:30

Just just to be frank.

1:02:31

Yeah. If you're a YouTuber and you need

1:02:33

someone who can like actually like do a

1:02:34

lot of the high-level things, just pay

1:02:35

someone to follow you around for 2 years

1:02:37

and study everything you do. And they'll

1:02:38

after that, they'll be pretty good at

1:02:40

like doing stuff for you.

1:02:41

He learned and adapted to the ways that

1:02:43

is that technical nuanced digital

1:02:47

thinking.

1:02:48

And he's able to make decisions for you

1:02:50

and you know they're going to be right.

1:02:52

Exactly.

1:02:52

He's he's able to be you behind the

1:02:53

camera.

1:02:54

Like you get Like every decision we make

1:02:56

is like based on the thumbnail, title,

1:02:58

and content, and like even things like

1:03:00

knowing in the factor that like greater

1:03:01

lighting at the beginning has higher

1:03:02

retention. If a video's a little bit

1:03:04

darker, it's lower. And like, you know,

1:03:05

like re-engagements and stuff. Like

1:03:07

there there's like a thousands of

1:03:08

inputs. And like someone you who you

1:03:11

just train up isn't going to get them

1:03:12

all. But if someone follows you around,

1:03:13

they like learn these thousand some

1:03:15

things over the course of a year. So,

1:03:16

then like, their like percentage of

1:03:18

right decisions are so much more in line

1:03:21

with yours cuz they like it's literally

1:03:22

just like it's not like I have to like

1:03:24

motivate myself or this it's just what I

1:03:26

do. I just wake up and it just consumes

1:03:28

me and I just can't stop and I've never

1:03:30

been able to stop and if I stop I get

1:03:31

depressed.

1:03:32

What's the most satisfying part of the

1:03:34

process for you? Is it a successful

1:03:35

video? Is it the feedback from the

1:03:37

audience? Is it being the best?

1:03:39

everything. Like it's like I I can't pin

1:03:41

it to one thing. It's like being able to

1:03:42

provide for my family, being able to

1:03:43

employ my friends, being able to do

1:03:44

crazy cool stuff, having freedom, you

1:03:47

know, the fame, the money, everything.

1:03:49

Like everything that like I like all

1:03:51

points towards just being a better god

1:03:53

damn YouTuber and like it just makes

1:03:55

everything that I want better. I like

1:03:57

I've literally been hiring and and

1:03:59

building systems for like last four to

1:04:01

five years now to like perfect how to

1:04:02

like make a viral video. Like we have it

1:04:04

down to a science.

1:04:05

Yeah.

1:04:05

Now I know what to do and you it's easy

1:04:07

to replicate it. But figuring it out

1:04:09

took forever.

1:04:09

Absolutely. What What do you uh what are

1:04:11

you most excited about?

1:04:13

Most excited about?

1:04:14

Yeah, right now.

1:04:15

I don't I just YouTube. It's never I

1:04:17

mean it's like weird cuz everyone always

1:04:19

tells me eventually you'll get burnt

1:04:20

out, but that's just YouTube. That's

1:04:22

what gets me up in the morning and

1:04:23

that's what I live for.

1:04:24

it always has.

1:04:25

Always has. Hasn't changed.

1:04:26

Even when you were just saying the same

1:04:27

thing over and over.

1:04:28

Yeah, exactly. And since I was 13, I

1:04:31

just I I've been obsessed and I just

1:04:33

won't go away.

1:04:33

Bro, this is what Okay, so I've I've

1:04:34

said this like when you were doing those

1:04:36

videos, definitely I was like, "Yo, this

1:04:38

guy's [ __ ] like this guy is

1:04:39

This guy's a [ __ ] idiot.

1:04:41

No, I was like I was like this guy this

1:04:42

guy's interesting like

1:04:44

I but I I I'm mad at myself for not

1:04:46

knowing that any person that was willing

1:04:48

to put themselves through that type of

1:04:50

mental uh distress

1:04:53

could literally do whatever they wanted

1:04:54

and is probably going to like make and

1:04:56

and figure it out.

1:04:57

Yeah.

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