Sheetmetal, Weldments & Structure Systems

awesome all right well um as uh Barry

mentioned thank you very much for

joining today my name is Juan Chapa and

I'm an industry process consultant here

for the S Sy stems I'm based on uh out

of here in South Texas and I've been

using Sol work uh since 2006 and and

actually um the first time I started

using solid works was uh primarily using

cheat metal and weldments um just

building uh designing and building uh

heavy machinery so I got a lot of great

use and exposure to sheat mental and

wellness back then and uh it's they're

pretty much my favorite tools within

solid works so today we're going to go

ahead and and talk about uh those two

two items primarily cheat metal and

weldments uh and I uh hopefully we have

a little bit of time we'll also talk

about structure system which is also a

tool that allows you to create uh

Wellman structures in a quicker fashion

uh we'll we'll talk a little bit about

that if not we'll we'll include that in

in one of our next episodes but like

Barry mentioned please um ask any

questions in in the Q&A section um

that's what we're here for and I will

we'll go ahead and make a couple of

stops along the way to address some

questions uh and then I'll provide my

contact information at the end in case

there's anything that we are that we

didn't get to uh to talk about today uh

in today's agenda is going to be pretty

simple we're going to talk about the

three primarily ways of creating sheet

metal components uh then we're going to

jump into the Wellman part of solid

works um we'll we'll throw in some uh

the use of cutlets and drawings as well

for both sheet metal and Wellman

structures they work and and and behave

very very similar and then like I said

if we have some time we'll talk about

solware structure system so that's kind

of a the agenda for today we will have

some time towards the end as well to

address some questions um so U just um

um if you don't have to wait to type

them until the end you can start typing

them as we go along so please do that so

um let's start with cheat metal really

quick um there's three primarily ways of

creating cheat metal components

um you see the first one is the most

common ones is pretty much using sheet

metal features that are embedded into

the solw work sheet metal tab um that

includes just creating a part from

scratch whether it's already a formed

part or a flat piece that you start

adding uh Edge flanges uh base flanges

Etc just to to pretty much make it a

cheat metal

component uh there's another one as well

where we are also uh able to import a

lot of geometry and as long as we have a

uniform plate thickness uh we can

actually even if it has or doesn't have

any ribs or bend um embedded into our

components um say any IIs step files

anything like that that we work with

from our customers we can go ahead and

use the insert Ben command and then

convert those sheet metal components

into um in sorry convert those edges

into sheet metal components uh so we'll

we'll touch base on that as well and

then the other one um is using our solid

geometry that we have uh and then we we

introduced this functionality or this

tools probably over 10 years ago called

a convert to sheet metal it's a feature

that allows us to convert any solid

block um any as long as it's a solid

plate uh sorry a solid component we can

go ahead and convert it into a sheet

metal component as well so we'll touch

based on those three uh so let's go

ahead and jump into solers right away

and uh and then we'll we'll go over the

first the first way of creating cheat

metal components our uh goal U and I'm

going to use this as an example later on

to come

um to uh to to show how using sheet

metal and wellness we were able to

create this structure um and also as a

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have a conversation with you guys there

so let's go ahead and talk about the

first and I think the most common way of

creating a sheet metal component um so

as you can see there there's already a

sheet metal tab there and if there's

anybody new that is new to SolidWorks

for the first time you know you can turn

those tabs on and off by right clicking

on any of these areas in the command

manager that's one way of doing this and

just turning them on and off so if you

don't see your sheet metal tab that's

probably because it's off I I like to

use the sheet metal tab even though we

do have sheet metal tools embedded into

our dropdown menus under Tools we can go

ahead and and find the sheet metal uh

sorry under insert you can find the

sheet metal um the same exact tools that

we have here uh I rather use a sheet

metal Tab and of course I also like to

use our shortcut bar using the S button

uh to uh to uh go ahead and and find the

tools and the features that we need

right so um so just real quick going

into the sheet metal tab you notice here

that I have a blank just a blank part to

begin with and the only feature that

I've got available to uh to start using

is primarily the base flange tab uh

command there's also a swep flange we do

need sketches and open open profiles

close profiles to be able to begin right

so as always I'm going to I'm going to

go ahead and create a sketch right from

the right from the start um and when

you're working with sheet metal geometry

like I said at the beginning you can

work with a a formed uh part already or

you can go ahead and work with a the way

you would pretty much start with a flat

PL a flat face or a flat plane and then

work your way from there um I'll show

you both ways here real quick um I'll

start by also taking advantage uh of

symmetry uh so I'm going to go ahead and

create this uh quick um uh just Center

Center rectangle make sure that I snap

it to the center and then uh just

because I always like to Define my my uh

sketches I want to go ahead and and add

some some definition here so I'll go

ahead and and Define the the the height

and the and the length of this um to

make sure that my sketch is uh is fully

defined now we all can agree here that

this is a closed Contour right um so if

we were to use our sheet metal uh uh

feature the base flange feature because

it's a closed Contour this will

automatically capture and convert that

into an AC ual plate right so we've got

the option here to just convert that

close Contour into a plate if this was

an open Contour which I'm just going to

demonstrate here I'm just going to

convert that constru that line into a

construction geometry now I've got an

open profile and if I do the same thing

it's going to go ahead and just convert

those edges into the actual sheet metal

formed um geometry and then this edges

even though they're charp you can see

that they're they're going to go ahead

and and uh um be converted with a radius

as well we can Define all that

information shortly so I'm going to go

ahead and take a look at it from the uh

from the front perspective here uh real

quick because I I do want to go ahead

and and point out the definition of the

sheet metal parameters okay I think

everything that we'll that I'll cover

after this it's going to be very very

easy and simple this is I think the most

critical part of understanding when

working with sheet metal Parts uh is the

definition where how we Define this so

um the first thing we do or the first

thing I'll do here is I want to go ahead

and and use um the uh um I want to go

ahead and and uh use a guge table right

so we can go ahead and use a guge table

um I'll I'll I'll skip this for right

now I'll skip this few sections I'm

going to use a guge table to Define this

now if you don't have a gauge table uh

you can simply Define your thickness

starting from here right so whatever

whatever information we put here if it's

a half inch plate um and I'll go ahead

and look at at it from the front you can

see that it it actually adds that

thickness to those lines

and then this button right here I'll do

a quick Zoom here this button will go

ahead and justify your thickness outside

or inside your geometry that you're

creating right and also keep in mind the

radius is going to go ahead and and and

have to in this case we we'll go ahead

and and eat some of that radius if

you're if you're uh putting the uh the

thickness outside if you're putting it

on the inside it's going to go and

compensate and make sure that it stays

outside of that boundary so for this

example I'm just going to go and keep

everything inside um and then the radius

can be if since I'm inputting this

manually I can also input the radius

manually as well here right now if you

rather use a gauge table um there are

some sample tables here to begin with um

I personally started using or I took

advantage of this functionality back

when I had a real job and I was

designing uh components for a living

heavy machinery back then I actually use

a gauge table to Define um all the plate

thicknesses that my shop had back then

um and then all the dieses that we used

for for bending and forming uh and I I

took advantage of that so I had my own

my own table there so I didn't have to

go and input that information here so if

you want to do that you can go and

browse for that um uh sheet metal gauge

table it's simply an Excel table if

you're not sure where that where that

location is um if you hit the browse

button it will take you to that default

location also you can go into tools

options and then there 's a section here

I got to get out of that tool but under

options I'll show you um that there's a

section where it shows pretty much all

the file locations for your uh for your

templates under uh file locations you go

and look at the sheet metal um sheet

metal gauge table and it will give you

pretty much the the location where yours

is stored all right so mine is stored um

here I have it open here and the

definition is pretty simple right so

there's three columns this is the name

of the table as it's going to show up on

that drop down list um I and then you

can also change the uh the type of

processing that you guys use for this

and then the three columns are very very

self explanatory this first one is

what's going to show in this drop down

menu so if I go into the U sheet metal

guge table um the first drop- down menu

that we get is going to show that column

right there so depending on how you're

going to recall it that's going to show

up there the second one is the actual

thickness per of the per per uh that

definition so whatever gate plate

thickness that you decide to add it's

going to show up there so it's going to

be automatically defined there as you

can see the 10 gauge will go ahead and

have that. 1345 definition I can't

change that unless I hit the override

thickness button but then that defeats

the purpose of using a gauge table um in

the event that the stock came in wrong

or the manufacturer had a plus or minus

tolerance that that's not really the .1

345 and you have to be very precise then

of course you can overwrite that

thickness um and then based on that

thickness and that gauge that we

selected then we have here the four

possible um radi that we can select so

from here that's all that's all that

shows up there so you can see that you

can make this your own you can customize

it and add any information and again the

way I used it I simply added the plates

that we had available based on the uh

designs that we were making um the

thicknesses per per plate um in in my

case we're using um the English unit

system so we pretty much the half uh all

the way from from an eighth to uh about

an inch and a half inch plate then

depending on the dice that we were using

in the processes and that's pretty much

the radi that that I added here uh

separated by simply a semicolon so um

anyways that's the definition that I'm

using here um I still have the reverse

Direction button uh to justify and keep

all my my uh thickness on the inside or

the outside and then I do have the

option here for for uh my radi as well

so depending on the radius that I want

to go ahead and select U I use the drop

down there you can also override that

radius um there was a scenario where our

one of our dieses back then uh was a

little worn out so I mean just to make

sure that we had the the the actual

tolerances that we needed we did have to

make an override uh in one of the

designs to make sure that we compensated

for that die that we had back then but

um and then finally these tables are

using a k Factor so you can see the K

factor that it uses and there's

explanation on those red dots there um

it it's using a k factor of 05 but you

can also uh override that value and you

can actually use a uh a bend allowance

table which again I'm not going to spend

a lot of time on that it's very very

similar that the templates are there for

you to justify uh and and customize as

you see fit um for this example and for

the rest of the morning uh today or the

day that today uh we're going to be

using just a k factor of 05 um there is

uh again that just um um if you need to

compensate for that bend allowance

there's a couple of tables they're all

in the same file location so you can go

ahead and open open those customize them

as you need to and then make them your

own all right there's any and then

finally the last thing that I'll point

out here is the auto relief so if

there's any location in this case that's

not it's not happening if there's any

location where um the plate needs to

tear in order for it to compensate or

accommodate the bends that you're

forming then how or what U type of tear

are you going to be using um just so

sorry what kind of relief a tear is

pretty much just presses on to or just

tears it right in the same spot there's

no separation in between but if you use

a round or a rectangular then you can

actually specify the uh ratio between

the uh depending on the thickness that

you've got and depending on on on the

size of the rectangle but um finally if

I'm using this option where I have an

open profile the direction here are

going to go ahead and and um um just U

have or compensate for the um for the

actual thickness or sorry the length of

those plates right so depending on what

direction you put here you can also

leave your sketch on the in the front or

towards the back of your diameter of

your um uh geometry that you're making

so that's pretty much done here there is

an option for direction two in case you

do need to go say 18 inches to one side

and then depending on what kind of

symmetry that you're using then you go

ahead and accommodate a different

thickness on the front or on the other

side of that plane all right so um in

this case I'm going to close this

Contour again because I simply want to

create a a simple plate I will use a

guge table and I'm going to use a very s

just a 10 gauge um 10 gauge material

there and the radius is going to be 0.5

all right and I I have to worry about

the thickness uh all all I want to make

sure is the thickness goes uh to the to

the front of my sketch so I simply

reverse the direction of that and it

goes to the front of my sketch and

that's it as soon as I've got that the

sheet metal parameters are going to be

listed under my feature tree here so if

I need to make any changes to the

thickness to the radius um moving

forward then I I have to go in here edit

the feature and then I'm able to make

those changes here all right if now I

want to use a um an edge flant feature

which is a very very typical tool or

feature that we use on this ede for

instance

this radius is already predefined by the

first sheet metal parameter that I

assigned I can overwrite that in each

feature so each feature if it has a

certain bend the radius the radius of

that feature can be overwritten um we

can certainly do that by unchecking the

use use default radius and then um comp

or modifying your your your radios there

typically we keep the same uh for this

but there's scenarios where you might

have h a different different radius so

this is the way we we Define that and

then I'll go ahead and mention this real

quick the definition of your Edge

flanges um is is um of course the angle

this case I'm I'm keeping a 90 degree

angle um the length of it which I'll say

12 inches for for this purpose or for

the purpose of this example and then

this is the important part right here

the flange um length and position the

length is going to be uh the measure in

this case because it's a 12 it's a 90

angle um it really the measurement is

going to go ahead and for this for this

one and for this one for these two

options uh because it's not in an actual

on a different angle than 90 deges where

there's supposed to be a virtual sharp

here um that's where it's measuring

those 12 Ines from okay this one it

starts measuring the 12 inches from

right here from the actual Bend so you

can see here I'm going to I'm going to

just zoom into this area that if I

select this opt option you can see that

it compensates for the thickness of that

plate so it becomes a little longer um

than than it that it needs to be right

so that's pretty much what that

definition does then the flange position

is also very important because whether

you want to compensate the geometry that

you just sketched uh so it it pretty

much has to start the bend um uh inward

or inside the geometry so it's going to

pretty much take away that material

right there so that it can create that

bend um or if you want to go ahead and

just make sure that the um uh the length

or the bend itself is going to align to

the inside part of that flange or that

the bend starts right at the edge so

those are the three primary options um

and and again this ones don't apply for

a 90 degree angle because the uh this

one is going to be identical to this one

right here because there's the virtual

sharp is pretty much right here where my

cursor is at um and but that that would

be the other option to um Bend from the

virtual sharp uh or if um B from the

tangent um the tangency plane in the

back of that which again in this case

it's pretty much the same as the first

one um so I'll keep that as is um and if

you do need to add a different custom

relief type or custom bend allowance you

can Define that per Bend but in my case

I'm going to let the sheet metal

parameter which is this one right here

Define the rest of the jam the only

thing I did was Define the length and

the flant position all right uh I'll use

another flange because the other common

thing to do is to just add a section

just a simple section right here um so

you don't have to uh extend the entire

length of this that's why we have so if

I only I can Define the length uh of the

flange but I don't even have to do that

here the only thing I do want to do is

start my uh my Bend uh on the outside so

I do want to go ahead and just Define

this right here so my my flank position

is going to be the Bend's going to start

on the outside of the geometry but this

button right here the edge uh Edge

flange button allows me to modify as

long as I have a close Contour I can

modify the geometry of that flanch right

here so even though these lines are

shown to be fully defined because

they're black you can still pull on

those points say here I can pull on that

point and then make make that flange uh

smaller than it needs to be uh I can

even delete this right here and then

make that round as long as I've got a

close Contour it's going to it's going

to go ahead and allow my uh my uh flance

to stay in position and then of course

because it is a sketch you definitely

want to go ahead and and Define uh you

can Define your length um either from

here so I can say this is five this

might be I don't know just throwing a

number there four for instance uh you

can Define that sketch there or you can

Define the length from the properties of

the edge flange so this is something to

to keep in mind you don't have to keep

the exact length of that edge but it

does have to be attached to the edge one

one and then two it has to be a close

Contour in order for this to happen if

you still need to make changes to the

definition of the flange you hit the

back button here and it takes you back

to the uh definition of the flange

otherwise you just hit the Finish button

and it'll go ahead and and um um give

you the results that you need uh I did

want for this to go to uh uh change it

changed when I when I went back so I'm

just going to go back here and then

change the um the position of that

flange so simple enough there just

wanted to point that out um and then the

final thing I want to do here I want to

add another quick Edge flange so um I'll

I'll go back and and select this Edge in

this one I do want I do want for this to

uh to stay in that same line as it

is oh one more thing that I forgot here

is make sure that it also starts um from

the outside so that's that's that and um

you can um on this one I could have also

customized the geometry so that it cuts

apart a section here

the cut feature it works just like any

like uh like any other uh um um solid

works feature for that matter so you can

go ahead and and um um do a simple

sketch I am going to close it even

though you can go ahead and and and and

and extend the cut just because I like

close Contours and I am going to go

ahead and Define it as well so I'm going

to make a definition um of

um um of both both of those sides and um

if you're aware this you can if you need

for those two Dimensions to be the same

you simply hit the equal button there

click on the dimension that you want to

make it equal to so that way this

Dimension drives that Dimension um and

if this changes for instance to five

then the other one's going to change to

five as well as you can see there so one

will drive the other one uh but anyway

the cut feature here is um I have it on

my shortcut bar so one item to keep in

mind here because it's sheet metal

geometry there's going to be an extra

checkbox here that says link to

thickness so make sure you always keep

that there so that it no matter what

that thickness is it's going to go and

cut the entire thickness of that

geometry all right and finally I want to

go ahead and mirror this this little tab

here and this one to the other side so

we we can use our regular mirror feature

to uh to do this so we go into um me get

rid of this

menu out of the way and we go to the

mirror tab uh I can go ahead and use my

uh right uh my uh right plane here so

that I can mirror um this feature and

this feature over to the other side um

and then notice that that it's going to

go ahead and and uh I can also bring the

cut out because if I don't bring the cut

out then it's going to go and and keep

my um my plate uh intact so there goes

that and then finally before uh before I

finish this model one thing that you

always want to keep in mind when you're

working with cheat metal Parts is make

sure that it flattens right so on the

sheet metal tab you've got this flatten

command that's one way to get it um

there's also another way of doing this

um by right clicking on the

geometry there's an option here to

flatten so that's another shortcut there

you can always go back and exit flatten

and if you're in a quick hurry or you're

working in context within a within an

assembly you don't want to flatten it

you don't want you just want to kind of

kind of more or less see what where that

flatten view is going to look like

there's also a toggle flat display

option where it's just going to Overlay

kind of like the that that bounding box

geometry uh on top of your your solid um

so it's just as soon as you click in

space it disappears so those are the

three options that you've got there uh

to to kind of uh flatten it out and then

finally one thing I want to do is is I

like this short cut here if you want to

shorten the corners there's an option to

do a brake corner and you can choose

from a a fillet or a chamfer um and and

then the other the other cool thing is

you can box select your entire geometry

and it's going to go grab all those

edges like I did here and then if I

simply right click you'll notice that it

does a quick radius um on all of those

edges there so so it's just quick and

simple there um I'm not going to go

ahead and add any any Cuts there but I I

simply will go ahead and keep it the way

it is um again keep things to point out

here the flatten tool you always want to

make sure that your geometry is is able

to flatten and then the as far as the

geometry we started with this plate

right here that's why this this becomes

our fixed boundary anytime we flatten

it's going to it's going to keep that

that surface um uh in place because

that's what we use to begin with all

right um the definition of uh of where

or um or where that lies has to do with

that geometry that's here you cannot

really change that because we started

with a single plate if we started with a

uh I'll show you another example in a

few seconds if we started with a with a

form part then if you wanted to go from

this being the fix plate to this under

the sheet metal parameter there's an

option to change the definition um

actually we can we can we can go ahead

and change the definition of where you

want for that uh fixed plate to be uh

even after the fact um because I have

that fix plate now if I go into the flat

pattern feature I can go to edit the

definition and select that instead of

this being my fix pH because now I have

a finished part I want for this to be my

fixed phase all right so what that going

to do of course it's going to change the

flat pattern into a different uh into a

different plane all right so so just

keep that in mind you can always change

the definition under the flat pattern

folder flat pattern edit feature and

then you can just go and check which

phase you want to be fixed all right so

that's the first section of of the use

of it there's there's several other

features of course the doog feature um

I'll come back and show you the sketch

pend in a second uh there those are the

most common uh common use tools uh when

you're working with cheat metal

component the Ed flly is honestly the

the main one uh and then of course you

have some Corner relief tools as well uh

I'll I'll you I'll show that in the next

example um I'll I'll pause here and see

if there's any questions about this part

before I jump into the second uh the

second part of it let me look at the

chat here real quick yeah so one we had

one question came in from Bill

referencing could you add holes at a

certain point I think he's referring to

could you do that at the solid state at

the sketch State and or at the flatten

State perfect yeah you can um that's a

I'm glad you're pointing it out because

I I can show that here so the holes U if

you're going to be adding any cuts it is

important to to know when when to add

them and and when not right so say for

instance the holes can be added at any

point even in the in the if we were

working um in in a partial Bend State

yeah uh like in this case if I want to

use a whole the whole wizard and add a

simple hole on uh say on this surface

right here this is just a regular

surface that that we can go ahead and

Define the the size the position I can

go ahead and and just add a hole um say

on that surface on this other surface um

that can be done really quick and simple

now if you're going to add a hole or a

cutout in a bent area like right here

the important thing to to do is not to

do the whole while at a flatten State

all right this is what this is the

reason why if I go now it's in a

flattened State all right and I'm going

to go ahead and create a new sketch just

going to Simply sketch uh on this

surface I'm going to sketch a um I'll go

ahead and also do a quick rectangle

there uh and I can use reference

geometry so if I want it centered um I

can do all that good stuff define the

definition of the the length of the line

I mean you do what you need to do as far

as the definition is concerned but this

is not the way to to uh to to to make

the cut all right and I'll show you

exactly why

um if you go ahead and and and go into

the cut feature and even do the link to

thickness option where it's going to

goad and and link to the thickness

notice that it does show my hole or my

cutout there uh it doesn't matter where

where it's at it can be here it doesn't

have to be in the bend area but the

moment that I go back into my um plattin

or my form state that cutout is going to

disappear okay here's a reason why any

geome any features that are added during

the flattened State the flattened state

becomes or is simply a configuration of

our geometry all right so even though we

don't see that configuration here yet it

will show up whenever you make a drawing

for it as soon as this feature is is

suppressed anything below it um if it is

it's kind of like just reference parent

child geometry in a in a feature tree

this is reference to that flat pattern

so if that flat pattern feature is

suppressed because it's formed then this

is also going to suppress that cutout

all right so so that's not the way to to

create those cutouts uh what is the best

way to do that well let me show that

real quick that's what we have it we do

want it to make a cutout uh uh where uh

if it was just anywhere here like I did

the holes then you don't have to worry

about folding or unfolding the part but

if it's if you want the cut out here

okay let me show you two options okay

first option would be okay I want to go

ahead and make a cutout that is um um I

want to make a cutout here that is going

to go ahead and and and just be at an

angle at a at a say a 45 degree angle

that way um I can simply go

into something that I see here

that

missed oh yeah you know why I know why

I'll fix that later um if you can go

ahead and create a plane

um do a quick reference reference plane

on this surface and I can use this as my

secondary

um reference and let's say I do the

plane right there it's a it's a 45

degree plane where I can now use that to

sketch and just for Simplicity

purposes I'm going to

um I'm just going to go ahead and sketch

a um using a slot feature so I'll use

the I'll use X Center points so just for

Simplicity purposes I'm just going to go

ahead and do this right here this this

profile and I will use that so this is

this is where that sketch resides right

I'm going to cut that way so I'm going

to go ahead and cut there a couple of

open uh uh hands that are up I'll go

ahead and and and come back to that in

just a second so you can see there that

there's a cut there that that cut will

show up once we once we go ahead and and

do the Flat state of this then that cut

will go ahead and and um uh show

up if we do the normal cut option

because a normal cut will pretty much

just cut it straight through normal to

the plane and that will allow us to

flatten the geometry okay so but keep in

mind that um if say if if you have to

make this is where you make the decision

is that cut made um uh or machined after

it's formed or prior to being formed

right if it is after after it's formed

then this is a way to do it you you have

to make your plane wherever that whe

wherever that machine or whatever that

that tool that's going to cut it out is

going to enter through and then it's

going to go ahead and cut it straight

through uh at that angle um if it is

going to be cut prior to the forming

part then the way or the best way to do

this is to use the fold and unfold

features okay so I'll I'll go ahead and

use this unfold feature that we've got

here so we simply select the fixed face

and we can unfold every single one of

those edges I'm just going to unfold

that one right there notice that it

unfolds it you make your geometry as you

normally would so again I I'll just use

for Simplicity purposes the center point

I'm not going to Define it I'm just

going to go ahead and add it there uh

once it's once it's uh there we can make

the cutout we can still use the normal

cut as well um option we use the blind

we can use the U the link to thickness

option whichever one you prefer um now

it's cut out this is as if it was going

to be cut out prior to bending or

forming so how do we bend it back we go

back into the fold tool and notice that

the unfold feature is actually added

into the feature triat as a step we add

the unfold we make the cut we now do the

fold

and um in here I can simply just collect

all bends if I'm going to go Ahad and

bend everything back up and then this is

going to go ahead and bend it back to

the original spot so notice that the

that the shapes are going to be

different this is going to be the form

version of that cutout and notice that

it does record the unfold cut and fold

as features in your feature tree so keep

that in mind that's what these two tools

are for uh to to make any Cuts they only

apply if the cuts are going to be

affecting the bent or the formed area of

your plate so keep that in mind hey ju

um two quick questions and I'll let you

get on to the next session and they're

they're both related basically it's a

question around what is the difference

between creating a chamfer fillet and

Sheet Metal uh for corners and then

breake Corner versus creating a champer

fillet using the champer and fillet

tools in the features tab there is no

difference very good question there's no

difference at all the U the I guess in I

prefer to use if it's sheat metal I

prefer to use this corner option because

it just um allows me to um uh to grab

them quick ER as well but there's really

no difference um in when you're working

or using the features fill it feature um

you can't if you box select geometry it

goes uh and selects every single edge of

your geometry so so I can't really do

that um I mean I could but it's going to

go and also select the long edges you

can see that they're uh and I could

filter down to select the uh edges and

stuff like that or faces but the one

when when we use this ones right here

the uh this one when you when you box

select it just allows you to it just

grabs the actual edges instead of this

long edges as well of the plate so it

understands that okay they're pretty

much the same thing you're welcome all

right so let's move on to the next and

I'll come back and and and uh and uh

answer some question I'm going to save

this part in case we have some questions

at the end if we have some time I'll

save this locally uh since I am using

um 3 The Experience solers solers

connected directly to the to our to the

experience platform um I'm going to save

this locally instead of uploading it to

the cloud I have the option to do that

later on um so I mentioned in my

presentation that there's three ways

right the uh cheat metal using Edge

flanges the other one's using insur Bend

this one's an easy one but it's also

very common I know that um a lot of us

work with imported geometry so um we can

go ahead and and import for instance a

um if I go and import a u

um Isis file for instance it's it's an

IIs file that comes in as a solid uh

just as a solid geometry and yeah we can

import we can run the import diagnostic

tool real quick make sure that all of

our faces are nice and healed there's no

missing edges or or uh uh not connected

edges we can we can do that right away

but this is this is simple this is this

is a plate it has uniform thickness

there is already a Bend there with a

certain radius I can measure the radius

here being in uh 2 mm so I can use that

as my guide and for the other rest of

them um and I can if I want to convert

this into a sheet metal part I first

have to consider that this is all

connected into one unit right so we have

two tools for this we have a tool that

allows you to rip those edges so I can

rip the edges that are connected and and

again this this is using your sheet

metal experience right how would you

bend that or or flatten that out so you

can flatten that to the back I will

consider this being my uh my uh fixed

face and then if I want to also tear

this and this edges in order to bend

them I have to go and select make my

selections there the rip uh Gap is up to

you as well I'm going to leave that as

default and notice what it did it just

added that feature but now my Corners

are no longer um connected so the second

feature to use is the insert Bend

feature and here we also have to specify

which is going to be my uh my fixed

geometry it'll be this one it recognizes

and it will leave the actual plate

thickness as it is um then I have to

just select the radius the radius that I

want on each Edge uh and I can use 2

millim for my radius and then what it's

going to do is going to convert all

those sharp edges into the uh radius

that I needed and and there was an

option there for for that's what that's

what I I explained earlier the auto

relief I I left it a tear so that's why

here for instance it just tears it

there's no uh there's no other I can do

some relief after the fact but um that's

what the definition is for and then here

I can now prove that it did flatten as I

expected or as I needed uh so so it does

allow me to uh to even as long as it has

a uniform plate thickness this is a way

to do it the other feature that I use

quite a bit is the sketch bin feature

all right for that we do need a sketch

so if I go and select that feature it's

asking for a face where am I going to

bend so if I want to bend this down I do

have to sketch the line the bend line so

I can use I'm just going to use a simple

line here I can use that bend line

um and as as soon as I exit my sketch it

goes back into the sketch pen parameters

and all it's asking is well which is

going to be your fixed face and how is

that b line going to be defined so if I

um select my fixed face on this side of

the edge then it's going to leave that

fixed and bend everything accordingly so

you want to also be careful on where you

click uh on either side and you can see

that little the the black ball that

shows up there that's where you click so

if I click on this side then it's just

going to bend that down and then again

depending on what you want for that

definition to be I can justify that my

that bend line is actually going to be

the the respected for the height so I'll

I'll do that and now I've got that extra

sketch bin feature added to my um to my

feature tree all right so so that's

another way of using this sheet metal

parameters is by by uh importing

geometry um and I'll go to the

U next one which is converting geometry

so in this this this example I've got an

enclosure of um um of any kind that was

made as a solid body so if I if I show

this here I'm just going to go and

isolate that to show that this is just a

regular solid body and I am inside an

assembly so if I want to use or look or

see my my sheet metal uh components or

features I do have to edit this

component in context so I selected go to

edit part so that I can go into my uh

part uh

my part functionality edit part

functionality and and like I said the

other feature that we use quite a bit is

the convert to sheet metal feature so

here the parameters are simple as well

same thing you can Define the thickness

with a gauge table definition for the

radius Etc uh so I'm just going to leave

um that out and I'm just going to define

the thickness uh to 1 millimeter of the

plate of the enclosure so the one thing

that it looked for is the fixed entity

so typically here I'm going to choose

that's that's uh a face that's going to

be be my fixed entity and then depending

on on do you want to justify that

geometry uh to the outside of the inside

this is where you reverse that thickness

so I'm gonna I'm going to reverse that

thickness there and um and then the rest

of the the rest is it's it's kind of the

the nice challenge there right how are

you going to bend this over right all

the way to the areas that are that are

going to be needed and honestly there it

depends on your experience as well with

cheat metal components in forming but it

can also be trial and error right

because you want to start from the areas

adjacent to that plate so I if I click

on this Edge right here notice that now

it's going to flatten that out anything

that you leave out if I were to hit the

exit button now it's going to delete all

the geometry except for this three

surfaces that you see there all right so

it just depends on how you want to go

ahead and form this so it's all one

piece that is going to be bent in those

locations I'll do the same thing here

here and here for instance so it's all

one single piece and then um there's

nothing has that has been torn yet right

so nothing has been torn yet but if I

click on this Edge right here it's going

to go ahead and bend that and now it's

going to go ahead and and tear that in

order to justify um the um the plate

that's on this side notice that there's

a gap option as well that it's it's it's

it's by default going to be defined down

here so this is the gap that I'm going

to create so I can change that over if I

need to I can individ individually

change each Gap as well so I'll go go to

the other side as well and make sure

that it's also included so there's going

to be some tears here in order to

justify that and then finally this area

right here I can do and select that edge

or I can select this Edge just depends

on on what tears you want you can also

even click on this one it all depends on

on how you're going to be defining that

geometry or or tearing uh U fabricating

it for that matter so you can see that

I've got all the surfaces except for

this ones so same thing you can either

start here and you'll start seeing the

tears down here and here so not going to

spend a lot of time like showing the

different scenarios but you can um for

instance here I can I can go ahead and

and uh and selecting and unselecting we

we'll go ahead and also show you the uh

different results there so if I select

that right there um so it it'll start

also doing those those reliefs and those

reliefs are defined um also by using

this uh um this ratio so you you'll see

those reliefs getting smaller and bigger

depending on what those options are but

um all of this even though you have a

you have a lot of options here you can

Define each individual Bend each

individual Gap individually if you don't

want to do it globally so that's what

those options are for and then this

becomes your end result once you accept

that um this will become your end result

um that solid block that you saw there

um you can go ahead and now flatten it

out and it'll it'll go ahead and show

the end result um including and you can

add some some additional Corner reliefs

uh if you wanted to keep your uh your

solid geometry um there's an option here

under that convert to to uh um sheet

metal combat uh command where you can

keep that solid body for whatever reason

you can use that checkbox and now it's

going to go ahead and keep that solid

embedded as well there so you'll have an

extra solid body there you can see that

there so I mean for whatever reason

you'll see now that you have those two

solids there but that's the other way of

of adding or using that sheet metal she

convert to sheet metal functionality so

so um I'll stop here for Sheet Metal and

I know we're running kind of close to uh

to the end of the hour so I want to jump

into weldments but I'll take a couple of

questions real quick here if I if I can

answer them

quickly

um I'll see the is there a way to tell

if a model yeah new questions yet no new

okay well I'll jump into I'll jump into

wman now um so let's close this out I

get like I said I I use this this three

very very often especially the we work

with a lot of a lot of vendors right

that that share or downloaded parts that

share share files from geometry so so uh

we we work with them quite a bit um this

right here I'll work with the framing

the framing with with cheat metal

geometry so if I go and and uh let me

just open up the uhu the frame name

um which is just I already have it

prepared with

um there we go just a it's just a 3D

sketch profile all right so you got a 3D

sketch 3D sketches are also fun but

that's that's another lesson as well um

but I've got a 3D sketch that pretty

much defines all of that geometry all

right and then I've got let's pull this

out of the way and then I've got another

sketch that pretty much has those Arc s

there all right so it's all one unit

they're all connected so when you're

working with weldman structures um you

the first thing you need to do is Define

the structure member type all right so

in this case we can go ahead and and um

if it's all going to be the same exact

uh Wellman structures we can go ahead

and just uh uh specify or select those

units now I want to mention a couple of

things the standards that you see here

and the in the drop downs and the types

Etc by default they're not going to be

included in your uh in your library you

do have to download um under the design

Library there's a section where it says

solers content and then in the solers

content there's a Wellman folder where

if you want to download those standards

you have to hit hit and hold your

control button and then click on them

and then specify you where you want to

where you want to store them they're

going to come in as zip files once you

download and and extract those files

then you can go back into what I showed

earlier on the file locations there

there's also file locations for Wellman

so you can look at the Wellman section

the Wellman profiles and then you want

to make sure that you don't that you

copy and paste or or cut and paste those

downloaded profiles into here to make

sure that you do see more because by out

of the box there's only going to be a

few options all right you can create

your own profiles again that's that's

another uh another lesson there but in

this case I'm just going to go ahead and

use what I've got here the the the

libraries that are stored um depending

on the standard you have downloaded the

the structural profile that you have

downloaded this case I'm just going to

Simply use um my uh uh profile that say

I'll I'll Define that 60 by 60 by 40

that's going to be the profile uh for

the TU and the main thing to point out

after the definition of your structureal

members are the grouping okay you can

say okay I'm just going to go ahead and

select that profile there um and notice

as soon as I start selecting it you can

only group in in two different ways if

you want to also select whatever's

connected to this endpoint can be

selected at the same time within the

same structure member I can no longer if

I click here because this is attached I

can't click here anymore because notice

that it's not going to pick it up why

because they're not connected there's no

connection in between them so if I did

want it to go ahead and include this

then I have to hit the new group button

so I can select this as well all right

otherwise you can you can Group by

adjacent edges or you can group in this

case if they're parallel to each other

as well so if I go and select those as

my individual groups notice that I'm

clicking all four of them they're not

connected but they're parallel to each

other so they can be grouped into uh

together into one category so that can

be my first group uh those four then I

can't click on this one anymore unless I

click on new group and then I can go

ahead and select that edge and this Edge

right here because they're opposite from

each other so that can be my uh my

second group okay and then my third

group can be maybe this one and this one

together as well so that can be a

separate group okay the definition of

the profiles and you can you can

actually Define each one individually or

all by default um the good thing about

grouping is this corner treatments that

is going to go ahead and understand that

they're all connected to each other and

you'll see the end results in a second

but the one thing that I did want to

point out here is the U definition of

the profile each profile is defined each

structureal member is defined by a

sketch and the sketch usually or the

profile usually aligns to the center of

that sketch but if I wanted for it to be

aligned otherwise then you can hit the

locate profile button and then choose

any corner or any point doesn't matter

if it's a point that was added by

default um or if it's a crossing point

like this is a radius point or a

Crossing Edge then that is going to go

ahead and be defined according so

instead of the line being attached to

the center of that profile it's going to

be aligned to wherever I click if I hit

this locate button the other thing too

you can also Define the angle so if you

want to switch that over to say 45

degrees you can see how you you're able

to turn that over um leave that at zero

leave that at 90 whatever angle you

decide that's going to define the the

projection of that angle so and that's

per group as well so just keep that in

mind um and then what that's going to

end up doing is you're going to see the

corner treatment there they're not going

to interfere with each other but there

has to be some work there if you wanted

to go ahead and make sure that for

instance I'll go back into this just so

I can fix this real quick um if I go to

my second group which is the this this S

I do want for that profile to make sure

that it stays on top so that it doesn't

go above my geometry so I can select

that and now it's going to go a little

bit below same thing for group three I

want to locate the profile and make sure

that I select that top so it all

stays at least to the to that top um

side so you can see now that I have a

better better trimming there uh on on

each Corner as well there all right so

that's one way of defining it those

those tubes that you see there depending

on how many are identical in length

they're going to start listed here in

this cut list now what I recommend is to

have the option of there's an option

when you right click on um uh cut list

to update automatically so you don't

have to be updating every time you want

to go and see the link or the grouping

because then it's going to group each

ones that are that are identical in

length they're going to group them into

individual sections here and then

somebody asked a question about metadata

that applies also for Sheet Metal

geometry um you can go ahead and and

apply if you go to the properties for

the cut list you can go ahead and start

defining uh by default this is what the

cut List information that's there by by

automatic okay so it's going to go ahead

and Define your length your material the

quantities of each other the length the

total length of each other the angles if

there's any angles involved um but you

can also add additional additional uh

properties if you need to okay and

that's important because those are the

properties that can be listed and used

in the actual table this is an example

table right so you got the it quantity

description length this is a cutless

template that you can have and see your

end results so it's important that you

that you also plan accordingly with

those proper properties um so um you can

use in the same structureal member uh

environment you can you can go ahead and

Define a different size if you need to

for instance um those arcs that I that

you saw there in the top I'm going to

show them so I can click on them this

one's right here so I'm going to show my

sketch there so now I can define those

arcs uh say if they're smaller in length

in size I'll go ahead and go to my uh a

smaller size um do this ones right here

and this ones I can I can go ahead and

select them all at the same time in the

same group um um well actually I take it

back because they're not parallel to

each other they're not lines I can't

select them in the same group so they

all have to be individual groups um and

then uh uh they'll you can also Define

the the position uh of each group so for

instance if you want to keep everything

aligned to the

bottom then you would have to go in

there and locate a profile

here I'll do the same thing for group

two loc at the profile for group two and

then locate the profile for group one so

it all stays on the on the bottom

boundary right there so now I can go

ahead and and you see that there's some

overlap that's what those triming tools

are from this is a perfect example where

I can use the uh I usually leave all the

trimming to the end right so I know

there's still some some edges here to be

trimmed or for the for the purpose of

time I'm going to use the trim feature

here so so if I go to the trim extend

feature you you have to select what body

is going to be trimmed well this one for

instance and then what are you going to

be using as boundaries faces or bodies

so it just depends on if you want to cut

them flat or if you want for them to

wrap around the body that you're

selecting it's a big difference if I

select bodies I can click on this body

right here I can also click on this body

right here and notice how it's going to

start and this one is not affecting it

but it's a big difference if I don't

select this

one this is going to go ahead and and

penetrate into that solid this one right

here so if I if I need to make sure that

it doesn't do that then I select this

body and it's going to trim my body

nicely there you can also leave a well

Gap so the well Gap is going to go ahead

and depending on say I do a 1 mm well

Gap it'll it'll go ahead and leave that

spacing in between and I can use also

this one over here in the back so I can

also um use this body right here to make

sure that it doesn't uh overlap into

that I can also extend this um using the

same tool I I I'll go ahead and show

that in a second but you can see how

you're you're able to to stop there and

it it'll it'll go ahead and make sure

that it's it's it's all stopped there uh

as far as extending you can use that

same trim extend tool to say extend this

feature right here or this surface um

you can go ahead and extend it um um uh

here I would use a phas so I would even

use this phas for instance and then I

can use Maybe um the um uh an an offset

here for uh for for it to to extend um

or I can go ahead and and uh have a um a

plane there and use it as a reference as

well so you can go ahead and extend that

to a certain angle or cut it at a c

certain

angle uh so the same thing will apply if

there's only two bodies involved like

here for instance um there's this is

another good example of use I select

that body to be trimmed and then to trim

using this body as an example if if I

leave the uh allow extension option it's

going to allow this to extend past and

wrap onto that body uh and you can see

that it even wraps onto that surface so

this will be really good for you to show

but not so much for the fabricator to

make right so you can also un do the

allow extension and then um then um it

will it will go ahead and or use sorry

the U you use the face option so that it

just stops right right there so it

doesn't it doesn't go past that um and

then therefore it's not going to it's

not going to wrap into it so the the um

um no we're we're right at the at the

hour mark so um we probably have a part

two for uh for showing cut lists and uh

and structure members as well but um but

I'll be I'll be happy to also answer any

questions after the fact to I'll leave

my contact information here Barry so um

I'd love to to talk to anybody about

about sheat Metal wellements um anything

that you work with regarding sheet metal

or weldments you can can combine the

information into a single cut list so I

just wanted to show an example here of

what it would look like you can

depending on if they're structureal

members you can see here that the

properties that I'm choosing on the cut

list are length for each unit but if you

also wanted to show material or whatever

else you've got um um if it is heat

metal Parts you can also do like the

bounding box or the the the uh area uh

whatever property you've got set you can

go ahead and and customize that just as

you would your uh um your uh uh build

materials as well so keep that in mind

because this cut List information in

2024 can also Sol War 2024 can also be

used in a bomb which is very very cool

so so uh that's a story also if you

missed the what's new rollouts that's

something to keep in mind um very I know

sorry I run a little a little bit out of

time I have my timer going on and it

just went off so um there's any are

there any other questions that we can go

ahead and address before before calling

it a day

yeah there's a few here maybe we start

with me some on the sheet metal and

weldments definitely some good comments

uh Kudos you for great demo session here

um we'll start with one from Scott does

it make sense to add welds uh to this

level of weldment or to pull the

weldment into a Next Level assembly and

add welds there H uh honestly if it

depends on how you if you want for those

welds to show up in the top lbel bomb or

in the cut list but it really it really

um some some some uh

uh users or I've seen it where

everything is added to the well um

geometry because that's the print out

that's the drawing that they use for

fabrication but again it just depends on

on how it's going to be assembled

otherwise yeah you can you can do either

or and those well depending if you're

working with with uh sheet metal or with

um um weldments there's there's an

option there to add the annotations um

um the the annotations for welds um here

or you can actually use use um there's a

weld beat option um that you can use and

it will actually add like a like the

visual part of of the Weld and then you

can Define it accordingly but yeah it

really depends on on the user um you can

use it either or okay thanks question uh

Chris has a question when a lining

member ends do we need to leave room for

weld geometry or will the weld weld Min

compensate for this automatically no you

do need to leave it um so at that moment

in the if you're defining a group there

is an option here to to leave those gaps

as well in between here um um but yeah

it's not going to go ahead and

compensate uh for for the weld um so

that's what you also have these trim

extend tools uh so that you can also use

um if you're if you're uh triming uh any

any any bodies like that for that

purpose you also have that that

extension option so to make sure that

you use or you leave that well Gap um um

distance uh but it won't it won't

automatically compensate for it yeah and

that uh very similar question from

Julian was does the well Min profile

Auto Trim so you just answered that one

right um let's see here John has a

question around do we have

Unistrut capability yes yeah there's

actually a Unistrut um

um file set as well that you can

download but yes absolutely it's not

going to be out of the box you're not

going to see it if you install Sol work

without downloading it but again under

your design Library section under solare

content you have to be connected to the

internet because it's going to download

and and and install it but then you

you'll be able to download um that

Unistrut um you just select where you

want to put store it it'll be a zip file

you unzip it and then you're able to go

ahead and add it to your uh file

locations to use it okay great um those

were the questions on WMS there's a

couple more on sheet metal if you want

to address those quickly uh we've got

one from Joshua how would you close the

gap from the tear when you were going

through that second model set for Sheet

Metal um let me see if I closed

it hold on I might have closed the model

yeah I closed the model there is there

is a an option um I'll just open the

sheet metal part so I can show that

there's actually an option under sheet

metal um under the the um sheet metal

command called welded corner so that

allows you to go and select those those

two edges that are that have that

opening and it will create that that uh

um kind of like a it'll close it as well

you can also extend it there's also the

extend option to do that uh so it just

depends if you wanted to just show it

close because it's going to be welded

together or if it's going to be um as

close as possible um when it's formed

then you use the extend option but that

that's another option there um to to

consider okay uh Nick has one question

is there a way to tell if a model is

sheet metal through metadata or

predefined solid works properties

following up with our work around is to

detect the flat pattern configuration

which one mentioned needs to have a a

drawing created first you're basically

looking for PDM triggers for T yeah so

the the the configuration is not going

to show up there you can create um a you

can create an actual configuration um a

as well and as long as you name keep the

name consistent for for instance this

one doesn't have a drawing there if I

make a drawing um um just of of this

part right here I'll just go ahead and

use what I didn't even see the template

but I'll go ahead and use that at this

point if I go back to the model itself

again still doesn't have a configuration

there um but if once you drop yeah so

this is sorry this was a a pretty fine

model that or drawing that I've had once

you have the flat pattern um brought

into the drawing so let me

bring it's the roof yes it is refresh

that and then bring

um a it is

a let see if I can make that here

because it is a uh

multi-body I'll like this one just the

top one okay there you

go and drop the flat pattern

here come on

all right so I've got a flat pattern

there now so now I should have um that

flat pattern so if you make a custom

configuration and of course to make the

custom configuration you have to

compensate for the flat pattern to be

active or inactive right so like right

there that

configuration un uh unss supresses flat

pattern one if you manually do that and

as long as you you uh you don't have to

make a drawing but you have to keep or

or get the naming convention which is

similar it has the default sm- flat-

pattern and then um um the name of the

the U file itself um then then it'll

it'll it'll save that as a configuration

and it'll use that whenever you you

trigger a drawing so you can do that

manually but you have to well you can do

that but you have to do that manually if

you don't want if you don't want for it

to be manually you have to make a

drawing for it even if you don't save it

it'll it'll make it for

you okay

I believe I'm just going through the

last couple here I think the only other

question maybe just a quick followup

there was just a small question while

you're editing the sketch could you add

a hole there yes yeah so I think I show

well you you can go back into the um the

edge The Edge flange I recommend not to

do it at the edge flange level at the

edge FL sket level sketch level um I

always prefer to add the holes by

themselves or the cutouts because you

can easily suppress and unsuppress him

accordingly or without having to go and

and if you mess up that that edge

profile then then uh it'll it'll make

especially if you got CH child features

afterwards it'll make a huge mess

afterwards abely and then the last one

that I see there was that that overhang

um I closed the part already but that

overhang had to do with the way I

mirrored it uh because this was a

feature um this he was probably talking

about this overhang right here um I

should have also in the mirror selected

to mirror the the body itself or to

mirror this feature notice if I select

that mirror feature because I'm

mirroring features um it'll it would it

would have selected it or the other

thing I would have done is selected the

uh um mirror body feature so that I can

mirror the entire body with includ with

with this right here in mind because

because this was closed in this wouldn't

have matter if my selection for that

edge flanch would have stayed on the

outside and those are the the little

details right that that you'll you'll

get to uh experience once you see there

that doesn't affect it at all because of

the of that outside so it doesn't matter

if you mirror the body or not but it had

to do with the way I mirrored uh that

was a good question and a good catch

there

um uh last question um we'll probably to

shut it down U we've got one here from

Ben how are drawings created with each

of the weldments for the shop to work

off of or should this be another

presentation so the Wellman yeah if

especially if you have multiple uh

Wellman structures that are going to be

assembled individually then yeah they

have to be created individually so each

one drawing per Wellman uh if it is

going to be um oh and and he's probably

also the um if they have any spec

specific Machining um I'll just show

that real quick that's something simple

to show like say you wanted to show um

the cutout for one of this that's that

structure member if you wanted to

include that in the in the original

drawing you can have a separate sheet

for all those machine cutouts then

there's an option here real quick under

um um I believe it's

the uh haven't done drawings in a while

but I think it's it's going to be the

let's

see is it relative view no it's not

going to be

that

might be may be one that we can follow

up with B yeaha I'll probably yeah

because it's one there you go this one

it's it's a model view you just go and

select the body that you want to go

ahead and and uh detail so say this body

right here so you just go into the model

itself select it then it'll come back

and allow you to just drop that and then

from that body you can go ahead and

project it to the other angles and

accordingly Etc but but that's a tool to

use if you wanted to individually show

that the cutouts uh or the links you use

model view and select bodies and then go

and select the bodies individually so

awesome one that are all the questions

um definitely thank you to our audience

for joining us today this will be posted

to the the site the link is in the chat

very top of the chat if you want to grab

that hyperlink there but uh Guan thank

you again for your presentation awesome

job and we look forward to hearing and

seeing everyone in our next session in

November my pleasure you have any other

questions uh feel free to email my email

I'll put it here real quick on the on

the chat uh first name last name at

3ds.com juan. chaa 3ds.com I'll be happy

to help out thank you for the invitation

very appreciate it have a great rest of

the day everyone no problem take

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