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THE BEGINNING OF KNOWLEDGE Hans Georg Gadamer

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Summary

Hans-Georg Gadamer re-evaluates the origins of Western philosophy by stripping away the interpretive filters of Aristotle, Christian theology, and modern scientific objectivism, demonstrating that Presocratic thinkers like Heraclitus and Parmenides understood being, nature (physis), and consciousness as an indivisible unity of opposites rather than as mechanistic or subject-object dichotomies.

Recovering the ancient Greek understanding of physis and logos exposes the ontological blind spots of modern mathematical-mechanistic science and Cartesian subjectivity, providing an essential corrective for contemporary hermeneutics, ethics, and ecological philosophy.

Section summaries

0:00-15:00

Author's Preface & Historical Transmission of Presocratics

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Gadamer introduces the origins of his Naples lectures and examines how Presocratic thought was preserved and transmitted across antiquity, Byzantium, and the Renaissance. He highlights the unique survival of Parmenides' hexameter poem preserved by Simplicius and contrasts it with the aphoristic transmission of Heraclitus. Gadamer rejects 19th-century philological assumptions that Parmenides was simply a reactionary response to Heraclitean flux, noting the distinct geographical and stylistic origins of Eleatic and Ionian thought.

  • Presocratic philosophy is almost entirely a mediated tradition of fragments and citations filtered through later authors.
  • Simplicius preserved the proem of Parmenides' poem, which grounds being in opposition to non-being.
  • Reinhardt demonstrated that Heraclitus and Parmenides operated as independent contemporaneous developments rather than direct polemical rivals.

Provides the foundational historical and philological framework for the entire inquiry.

15:00-45:00

Hermeneutics of Heraclitus & Hippolytus Deconstruction

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This section investigates the reception of Heraclitus by later thinkers, from Plato and Aristotle to Christian apologists like Hippolytus of Rome. Gadamer demonstrates a hermeneutical method of stripping away doctrinal additions, focusing on a newly recovered fragment from Hippolytus where the Christian doctrine of the Trinity and Incarnation was superimposed onto Heraclitus's paradox that a father becomes himself only upon generating a son. He also deconstructs the misconception that Heraclitus's doctrine of fire represented Christian/Stoic global conflagration (ekpyrosis).

  • Christian apologists appropriated Heraclitus's dialectical paradoxes to explain the Trinity and the resurrection.
  • The fragment 'the father is the son of himself' expresses the relational identity of becoming and generating.
  • Heraclitus's fire is a symbol of self-kindling, measure, and sudden transformation, not apocalyptic world conflagration.

Offers an exemplary demonstration of Gadamerian hermeneutics applied to textual recovery.

45:00-1:40:00

Heraclitean Paradox, the Logos, and Critique of Modern Self-Consciousness

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Gadamer contrasts modern scientific epistemology—rooted in Galilean method, Cartesian doubt, and Kantian transcendental subjectivity—with archaic Greek ontology. He examines Plato's dual use of Heraclitus in the Theaetetus (as extreme flux) and the Sophist (as the simultaneous unity of the one and the many). The section analyzes core Heraclitean fragments on waking vs. sleeping, the ever-flowing river, and linguistic puns, showing that the Greek concept of logos expresses an abiding unity embedded in human experience rather than an isolated subjective ego.

  • The Greeks lacked words for subjectivity and the Cartesian 'I', prioritizing the disclosure of being over self-certainty.
  • In the Sophist, Plato recognizes Heraclitus's ionian Muses as teaching the simultaneous unity of separation and harmony.
  • Heraclitus's proem portrays unaware humans as living like dreamers who miss the common, waking truth of the logos.

Connects ancient dialectics directly with modern epistemological and phenomenological critiques.

1:40:00-2:40:00

The Unity of Opposites: Life, Death, Fire, and the Awakening Soul

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Gadamer explores how Heraclitus articulates the radical identity of apparent opposites, focusing on life and death, waking and sleeping, war (polemos) and justice (dike). He explains that for Heraclitus, death is not a Christian passage or an Orphic transmigration, but a sudden transition in perspective where the living touch the dead like an ignited spark in darkness. The discussion traces how the logos of the psyche increases itself through consciousness, bridging Heraclitean soul-fire with Plato's doctrine of self-movement in the Phaedrus and Phaedo.

  • Heraclitean opposites do not cancel each other out over time but are co-present and mutually constitutive.
  • War (polemos) and strife (eris) represent the shared universal ordering principle that reveals the true status of mortals and immortals.
  • The soul (psyche) is characterized by self-movement and an ever-expanding logos that kindles its own light.

Contains Gadamer's deepest analysis of Heraclitean psychology, metaphysics, and death.

2:40:00-3:25:00

Ancient Atomic Theory: Democritus vs. Plato's Timaeus

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This section provides an ontological examination of ancient atomism, contrasting Leucippus and Democritus with Plato's Timaeus and Aristotle's physics. Gadamer critiques modern histories that celebrate Democritus merely as a crude precursor to Newtonian mechanics. He shows that Democritean atomism emptied the natural world of immanent purpose by attributing order to mechanical collisions in the void, which led to skeptical resignation. Conversely, Plato's Timaeus restructured atomism into regular geometric triangles governed by mathematical form and the idea of the good.

  • Democritus posited the void as an ontological element to combine Eleatic being with physical multiplicity and motion.
  • The atomistic reduction of sensory qualities to mechanical collisions created an unbridgeable gap between the understanding and the senses.
  • Plato's Timaeus replaces accidental corpuscles with geometric triangles, making mathematical form the primordial ground of matter.

Crucial for understanding the philosophical divergence between mechanistic and teleological models of nature.

3:25:00-4:05:00

Plato, Aristotle, and Presocratic Cosmology

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Gadamer analyzes how Plato and Aristotle retroactively shaped the entire Presocratic narrative. He examines how Ionian cosmogonies (such as Anaximander's apeiron and balance of elements) were recounted for the sake of cosmology—explaining the current stable order rather than speculative beginnings. The section tracks how Aristotle moved beyond Platonic craft (techne) metaphors by defining nature (physis) as immanent self-movement and teleological potentiality (dynamis to energeia), while inadvertently imposing anachronistic concepts like prime matter (hyle) onto early thinkers.

  • Presocratic cosmogonies were primarily intended to justify the enduring equilibrium of the cosmos.
  • Plato used the techne (craftsman) model in the Timaeus to express the dominance of the idea over visible matter.
  • Aristotle defined physis as an intrinsic process of self-unfolding, distinguishing natural ripening from artificial production.

Provides vital historical insights into how classical Greek philosophy systematized early cosmology.

4:05:00-4:20:00

Greek Philosophy vs Modern Science: Limits of Objectification

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Gadamer addresses the modern encounter with Greek thought, emphasizing that the rise of Galilean mechanics severed the intelligible, human-centered cosmos from modern experimental objectification. He demonstrates the inherent limits of objectification through four core domains: the lived body (experienced as well-being rather than Cartesian extended matter), human freedom (Kant's fact of reason), ethical habituation and communal solidarity (philia/ethos), and language (logos experienced as lived dialogue rather than an instrumental sign system).

  • The Galilean revolution abandoned anthropomorphic understanding in favor of mathematical control and reproduction.
  • Bodily health and illness exist in a realm of non-objectivity that resists pure technical medicalization.
  • Language is not an external tool or code, but the medium through which the world and human community disclose themselves.

Essential for viewers interested in Gadamer's core hermeneutic critique of modern technocracy and science.

4:20:00-4:55:00

Natural Science, the Concept of Physis, and the Human Sciences

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The final section explores the evolution of the concept of science from Thales' mathematical proofs to modern quantum mechanics and relativity. Gadamer contrasts the Aristotelian concept of physis with Newtonian physics and Kant's definition of nature as matter under universal laws. He reflects on how modern science eliminates sensory intuitiveness through abstract mathematical equations, and concludes by defending the irreducible autonomy of the human sciences (Geisteswissenschaften) as the vital domain of memory, tradition, and cultural life.

  • Thales introduced science as logical necessity and deductive proof rather than purely empirical calculation.
  • Galileo and Newton revolutionized physics by replacing experiential qualities with mathematical abstractions of free fall and universal gravitation.
  • The human sciences are not imperfect natural sciences; they preserve the shared life-world of historical memory and ethical tradition.

Synthesizes the overarching thesis on the destiny of Western science, philosophy, and culture.

Key points

  • Hermeneutic Recovery of Presocratic Fragmentary Tradition — Presocratic philosophy survives only as isolated quotations cited through the distorting lenses of Aristotle's teleological physics, Christian apologetics (such as Hippolytus), and modern historicism. Reconstructing original insights requires reading citations against the quoting authors' doctrinal motivations and focusing on the morphological structure of aphorisms.
  • The Speculative Unity of Opposites in Heraclitus — Heraclitus's aphorisms and doctrine of fire are not empirical cosmological models of elemental change, but paradoxes of the sudden, transitionless identity of opposites—such as waking/sleeping, life/death, and strife/justice. The logos represents the abiding one that maintains itself through relational tension and difference rather than simple temporal succession.
  • The Ontological Divergence of Ancient Atomism and Plato's Timaeus — Democritean atomism introduced the void as an ontological element to explain movement and sensory relativity through blind mechanical collision, reducing qualitative being to meaningless necessity. Plato's Timaeus countered this by conceptualizing atomic geometric triangles within a mathematically structured, purposeful whole where order and the idea of the good precede materiality.
  • The Limits of Modern Objectification and Cartesian Subjectivity — Modern science, inaugurated by Galilean mechanics and Cartesian doubt, reduces reality to calculable objects set over against an isolated thinking subject. Ancient Greek thought possessed no terms for 'subject' or 'object,' instead understanding human existence as immersed in pragma (action/entanglement), bodily health, communal friendship (philia), and lived communicative language (logos).
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the beginning of knowledge Hans George

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gadamer translated by Rod Colman

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contents one on the tradition of

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heraclitus 21 two heraclitus studies

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33 three ancient atomic theory 82 four

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Plato and presocratic cosmology

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102 five Greek philosophy and modern

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thought

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109 six Natural Science and the concept

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of nature

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127 publication history

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141 index author's preface thanks to the

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work of Professor Victorio dezar and Dr

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Hakim Schult my 1988 Naples lectures

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delivered in Italian and published in

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1993 under the title elenio Delta

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philosophia ocidental have since

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appeared in German as dur and fonger

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philosophic ream

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19971 we all know or think we know that

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the history of philosophy begins with

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thales of mtis and we justifiably cite

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Aristotle metaphysics a as our Authority

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and thanks to schayer Macker and Hegel

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ever since the German Romantic Period we

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have called these beginnings of

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philosophy presocratic we know however

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that what has been handed down to us as

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the earliest philosophy are really only

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quotations or fragments of texts in my

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Naples lectures I wanted to show that

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but we can only speak of this fragmented

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presocratic tradition if we keep in mind

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the first philosophical texts that were

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actually received these texts are mainly

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a question of the platonic dialogues on

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the one hand and the enormous mass of

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Aristotle's writings the Corpus arist

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Lum on the other nevertheless there is

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one exception among these fragments of

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the tradition namely the largely

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coherent text of the beginning of parmen

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dactic poem we owe this text to a

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reliable transcription by a great

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scholar from the last generation of

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ancient Greek Scholars an important

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member of the academy in Athens by the

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name of

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simplicius he lived shortly before the

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dissolution of the Plato's Academy and

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left behind a series of commentaries the

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most eminent of which were on

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Aristotle's physics centuries later

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Athens is supposed to have fallen victim

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to the advance of Islam at the hands of

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which even the Eastern Roman Empire of

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Byzantium found its end

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nevertheless this glorious locus of

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Greek thinking signified a very

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important point of release for the

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establishment of Italian humanism and

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the Advent of the

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Renaissance in truth humanism and above

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all our tradition of Greek culture had

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their earliest Beginnings in Antiquity

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with the Rise of Rome after the

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Victorious repulsion of the Punic threat

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the circle of cpio inaugurated a new

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direction for Roman society and a new

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education for its youth patterned on the

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Greek model we need only recall the

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works of Cicero in the time of the

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Caesars Greek culture even experienced

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such a diffusion and consolidation of

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all things Greek that generally speaking

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one spoke Greek exclusively in the

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courts of the Roman Caesars we owe this

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fact to that most brilliant thinker of

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this helenistic epic plot enus whose

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students then successfully perpetuated

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this Heritage for hundreds of years

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within an enduring Roman Empire above

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all

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however we owe the fact that Greek

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culture was transmitted to modernity to

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the later expansion of the Christian

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church and the culture that developed

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from it through the disciplined work of

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the monks it is still fateful and

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decisive that only the first part the

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introductory part of parmen dactic poem

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came to us along these paths in reality

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however in his transcription of the text

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which was found in Athens simplicius

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follows right along with the underlying

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fact that that in his physics Aristotle

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generally paid attention only to this

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introductory piece of the dactic poem

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which is all that has survived the

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entire text was composed in hexamers the

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classic poetic language of Homer the

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introductory verses of this earliest

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surviving peace show parids The Thinker

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to be a great writer who through the

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mouth of a goddess at once announces and

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grounds the great truth of being the

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complete nothingness of the nothing the

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far more extensive part of the dactic

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poem which we do not have gave evidence

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of contemporary cosmology and astronomy

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but like the individual fragments it

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probably also dealt with the experience

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of the world that is disclosed to human

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beings apparently to follow the

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instruction of the Goddess would be to

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reject the nothingness of the nothing

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she probably depicted the changing

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phenomena of nature with its wonderful

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rhythmic riddle of day and night

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manifestation and obscurity we can

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assume that the subsequent image of the

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world developed by parids was surpassed

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in the meantime by the progress achieved

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by science and this is why from the

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perspectives of Plato and Aristotle it

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was to be neglected given that lectures

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tend to break off when time runs out it

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is thus a happy coincidence that my

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little book on the beginning of

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philosophy a book based on a series of

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Italian lectures breaks off precisely at

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this point with

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parids now there was

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however another contemporary of parids

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from whom we admittedly possess no

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coherent text but for whom we

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nevertheless possess an enormous wealth

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of profound quotations that were

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distributed widely in helenistic times

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in the form of a book I am referring to

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heraclitus the dark one as he is often

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called in the tradition the question of

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how the two great contemporaries

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parmenas and heraclitus behaved toward

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each other has been debated in the

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scholarship for centuries in the middle

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of the 19th century philologists thought

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they had answered this question

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according to them parity's dactic poem

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presented a response to the doctrine of

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flux in herac liten thinking a Doctrine

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which parids critically rejected until

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relatively recently this view has

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remained decisive for their ordering in

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the additions of the presocratic

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Carl reinhardt's 1916 book changed the

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situation ever since then we no long

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longer dare to assert any relationship

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at all between parids and

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heraclitus as the tradition makes

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unequivocally clear heraclitus came from

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an aristocratic family in Ephesus a city

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on the coast of Asia Minor that

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precisely at this period was exposed to

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the pressure of the Persian expansion

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which it would not withstand in the long

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run heraclitus is explicitly laed for

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warning of the impending Persian

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Invasion we are really standing at a

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turning point in the culture Al history

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of the entire West we find ourselves in

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the so-called Colonial period a period

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in which for example the Greeks settled

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the southern Italian Peninsula but more

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importantly a period that also impressed

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a Greek character upon Sicily and the

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coastal lands of the

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Mediterranean to this period also

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belonged the reestablishment of Elia

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where parids lived and thanks to the

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doctrine he received from xenophanes

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developed the school that we call the

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elatic

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it is evident that the colonial

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expansion of Greece to the entire

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Mediterranean area and its particular

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concentration in Sicily and southern

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Italy was to be ascribed above all to

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the ever more strongly developing

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Persian pressure on the Ean a new

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upsurge of intellectual culture

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particularly in Athens began only after

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the Victorious defense of the Greek

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mother country in the so-called Persian

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Wars we would certainly like to know how

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the intellectual development of the

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whole of Greek culture between the new

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Colonial world and the mother country

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really took shape but we learn nothing

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at all about it from

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heraclitus the self-evident way in which

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Scholars later posed the question of the

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relationship of the two thinkers is

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indeed strange we only have to recall

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that parmen dactic poem was written in

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hexameters whereas the so-called book of

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heraclitus the exact beginning of which

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we happen to know because it is quoted

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in Aristotle contains a wealth of

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profound and Artful AFF RMS and in any

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case offers a completely different Pros

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style they are not so much fragments as

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citations of famous and widely known

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epigrammatic sayings such sayings hardly

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constituted a coherent work of Pros one

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might rather suspect that the masterful

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execution of this style which even we

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have to admire is of a completely

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different origin from the epic art form

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of Homer and Hesed whether it is at all

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meaningful to isolate thematic groups

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from out of the transmitted citations

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and to regard the whole as one prosaic

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text that we can understand albeit in a

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fragmentary way is extremely

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questionable the most important

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objection to this is the fact that

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collections of aphorisms were part of

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the literature of the time and they too

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exhibited thematic groupings yo Hall's

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share in his essay heraclitus between

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tradition and Enlightenment to observed

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no doubt correctly that heraclitus

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actually deposit his own manuscript in

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the temple of Ephesus and that he never

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as was otherwise usual with authors read

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his own text publicly it is certainly

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also correct that heraclitus never

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wished to be the founder of a school we

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also detect in his writing style a new

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sort of rhetoric one that was already

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intended for reading and not for

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recitation a style that lent itself all

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the more to being quoted I dare say that

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the book known in stoic times much less

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the purported chapter divisions from the

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late helenistic period can hardly date

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back to heraclitus himself Hall's share

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like KH 3 is nevertheless on the right

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path in so far as they both suspect in

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the tradition of heraclitus less a

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competition between textbooks than a new

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form of

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literature both of their conclusions

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strengthen my conviction that heraclitus

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is far younger than xenophanes and

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parids the so-called

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elatic in essence of course heraclitus

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himself was was a figure of the

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Enlightenment a thinker with no

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sophistic

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theatricality both authors see correctly

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what I have advocated for a long time

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that heraclitus work did not belong in

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the lists of the cosmogony and did not

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follow Hesed was cosmology really of

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much interest to him at all or was it

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rather the whole of human SLP political

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Life One wonders heraclitus has a new

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conception of psyche and/ AOS and even

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The Poets know nothing like it he is

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after all very much in search of himself

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moreover it is quite significant that

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heraclitus is named and quoted with

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particular reverence in the platonic

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dialogues whereas Aristotle certainly

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appears familiar with heraclitus but

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derives nothing of particular interest

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from him one can understand how

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heraclitus pointed way of writing might

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not be suited to Aristotle the logician

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in any case the paradoxical mode of

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contradictory thinking that

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characterizes heraclitus aphorisms could

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be no great help for Aristotle's physics

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we can clarify this with a specific

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example I would like to use the concept

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of the Soul psyche to illustrate the

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fact that the cosmological tradition of

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the malan school found itself greatly

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removed from heraclitus thinking for the

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milans the soul was the exhalation of

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the breath for heraclitus on the other

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hand the soul is the great mystery of

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the unfathomable limitlessness within

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which the thinking Soul moves not just

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in the case heraclitus but also in

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comperable cases the form of The Gnome

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the aphorism is stamped with a peculiar

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basic attitude Anyone Who quotes

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heraclitus does not have cosmology in

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mind once the later Victorious

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empedoclean doctrine of the four

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elements underlies the style of

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Aristotle one has a very hard time with

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fire with his ingenious hypothesis about

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the Stars anaximander had already

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explained the consuming and

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uncontainable destructive force of Fire

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by means of holes in the firmament but

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just as the soul in heraclitus indicates

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a new dimension of interiority wherever

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there is heat according to heraclitus

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there is fire thus there is not just

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fire in the heavens but everywhere

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wherever the heat of life is also we

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should not be so ready as philology has

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been until recently to push aside

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later report the one in which heraclitus

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book had nothing at all to do with

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nature but rather with the polls and

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politics we can tell from this example

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how in the development of the

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presocratic tradition Aristotle's

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physics has insinuated itself again and

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again into the conduct of the

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scholarship we will have to ask

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ourselves how not just heraclitus but

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parid as well both perform their

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functions in facilitating the beginnings

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of Greek

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philosophizing to that and let us

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investigate the work of these two the

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platonic dialogue parids gives us a

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clear reference it is Zeno who opens the

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conversation with the young Socrates at

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this point and thereby clears a path to

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the mathematical groundwork of the

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pythagoreans one anticipates how the

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theory of atams will announce itself in

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the end indeed they keep strictly to the

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nothingness of the nothing and the

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unchangeability of being for all

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appearances and effects move the unch

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aable atoms the true being of parids

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about which the goddess teaches him is

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thus confirmed in the end in the

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multiplicity of its

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appearances in this kind of corpuscular

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Theory neither originating nor passing

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away is burdened with the non-thought of

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nothingness the massive counter thesis

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that one sees as the genuine truth in

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heraclitus seems more difficult the

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thesis that everything changes

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constantly and that the one world has

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its true being in the Stream in which

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everything flows we can nevertheless

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imagine that the true being of parids

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and his goddess is confirmed by the

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mystery of death and birth which eludes

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all attempts to think it admittedly in

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reading the herac litan sayings we

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certainly cannot follow him into the

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darkness every time but we always detect

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the Deep mystery of the one the mystery

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of the one/ being for it is not without

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reason that I preface a work on the

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tradition of heraclitus with a

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consideration of heraclitus style in a

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striking way it seems to me to confirm

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that opposites Belong Together

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irresolvable 300 years after Christ

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prior to the predominance of the idea of

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the sameness of what is different

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hippitus dares a bold anachronism on the

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basis of his Christian Heritage that is

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supposed to serve the understanding of

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the mystery of the Trinity I believe I

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have shown that for application to the

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Trinity hippitus proceeded from such a

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simple truth as heraclitus idea that the

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father who begets a son makes himself

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into the father at the same time when

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plugged into dialectical epigrammatic

15:34

sayings these become intellectual

15:37

Temptations they offer themselves again

15:39

and again as formulas for particular

15:42

possibilities we might not therefore be

15:46

so surprised to find the inclusion of

15:48

atomic theory what is new and essential

15:51

is that it is the language itself that

15:52

indicates the unity of opposites we

15:55

detect how a new Sovereign domain is

15:57

opened up here for the SL agos one that

16:00

does not allow itself to be portrayed in

16:03

hexameters Zeno is presented in the

16:05

parids as someone who cannot separate

16:07

himself from the one that parid insists

16:10

upon Socrates insistence on the idos the

16:14

idea is seen no differently as if by the

16:17

exclusion of the many the one of being

16:20

would retain its meaning without the

16:21

many the famous xenian paradoxes are the

16:25

classic example of this self-fulfilling

16:27

prophecy it is like a new imperative to

16:30

recognize and hold fast to the unity in

16:32

that which changes itself this turns all

16:35

of the herac liten propositions into one

16:37

truth of unfathomable depth we can

16:40

understand that the power of the logos

16:42

has always already comprehended what is

16:44

contradictory as a Unity which means

16:47

that precisely in the differentiation of

16:50

occurrences not change but abiding being

16:53

justifies its application to heraclitus

16:55

and a distinction as heraclion just as

16:57

the truth of the idea is articulated in

17:00

Plato's Theus and taught in the sophist

17:03

a lecture held before the Academia Del

17:05

Lin in Rome forms the conclusion of this

17:08

volume it is our task to point out again

17:11

and again that our scientific culture

17:12

owes its proficiency to the Vigilant

17:14

accompaniment of the Enlightenment and

17:16

in a great Ark from the beginning of

17:18

philosophy on to be reminded again and

17:20

again of the limits that are placed on

17:21

the knowledge and ability of humanity it

17:24

is the arc from the atomic theory of

17:26

democratus past Galileo up to the Limit

17:29

experiences of our knowledge and its

17:31

application Hans George gadamer

17:34

heidleberg

17:36

1998 19 1 on the tradition of

17:41

heraclitus aigal the man who was

17:44

convinced that there was not a single

17:45

idea in heraclitus propositions that he

17:48

had not absorbed into his own logic was

17:50

not alone in being profoundly drawn to

17:53

heraclitus indeed the Oracle like

17:56

paradoxes handed down from heraclitus

17:58

hold a special

18:00

Fascination variations on one and the

18:02

same idea variations on the ideas of the

18:05

one and the same which in their

18:07

difference their tension their

18:09

oppositionality their consequences and

18:11

their change are the sole true thing the

18:14

logos of heraclitus these appear as the

18:17

oracular utterances of what Hegel at the

18:19

end of the western metaphysical

18:21

tradition called the

18:23

speculative ever since then The Nearness

18:26

of heraclitus is felt wherever

18:28

philosophical questions are set into

18:30

motion anyone who has ever been a guest

18:32

in hager's Hut in tat naber recalls the

18:35

saying scratched into a piece of bark

18:37

and placed above the lindle T panta oaki

18:40

car Unos lightning steers all fragment

18:44

64 these words are like an oracular

18:47

pronouncement and a paradox at the same

18:49

time for surely this saying does not

18:53

refer to that attribute of the lord of

18:55

the heavens with which he Thunders his

18:56

decisions Down to Earth but rather the

18:59

abrupt lightning filed elucidation that

19:01

makes everything visible in one stroke

19:03

yet in such a way that the darkness

19:05

immediately engulfs it again in any

19:08

event this may be how haidegger tied his

19:10

own questions back into heraclitus

19:13

profundity four to haidegger the dark

19:16

task of his thinking was not as it was

19:19

for Hegel the omnipresence of the self-

19:22

knowing spirit that unites within its

19:24

sameness in change and the speculative

19:26

Unity of opposites but precisely ly that

19:29

insoluble unity and duality of revealing

19:31

and concealing light and darkness into

19:34

which human thinking finds itself

19:36

interpolated it lights up in this flash

19:39

which most certainly did not as hippitus

19:42

thought it did represent the Eternal

19:45

fire those of us who owe the movement of

19:47

our own attempts at thinking to the

19:49

stimulus of hager's thought are overcome

19:51

by the same Fascination emanating from

19:53

heraclitus and in the same sense the

19:56

words of heraclitus which as Socrates

19:59

put it require a Delian diver to lift

20:02

them from the dark depths to the light

20:04

diogenes L

20:06

222 stand in a curious tension with the

20:09

employment of his words by later figures

20:12

at best one can still Trace in Plato

20:15

something of the well-honed sharpness of

20:16

heraclitus thinking and the compactness

20:18

of his propositions as in the sophist

20:21

242a where Plato explicitly refers to

20:24

the ionic Muses of heraclitus as being

20:27

more tension filled than the siil ones

20:29

of idals and thus recognizes in

20:31

heraclitus words the enactment of the

20:33

one and the many of separation and Union

20:36

which poses the task for his own

20:38

dialectic nevertheless the doxographical

20:41

tradition that begins with Aristotle has

20:43

read heraclitus Doctrine back into the

20:46

context of the older physiologists and

20:49

many testimonies are cited to the effect

20:51

that heraclitus also endorsed the great

20:53

Cosmic order of beings that Aristotle's

20:55

interpretation of Fus understood as the

20:57

start of Greek thinking now there are

21:00

many other sayings handed down under the

21:02

name of heraclitus that adapt themselves

21:05

more readily to a moralistic tradition

21:08

the cosmology of fire which can be

21:10

reconstructed from Aristotle is badly

21:13

suited to this this is why Antiquity had

21:16

already doubted whether heraclitus

21:18

writings dealt with nature at all and

21:20

not rather with the

21:21

poia one but it seems to be his special

21:24

distinction that he could be called to

21:26

testify for the most diverse interests

21:29

however the peculiar difficulty that

21:32

heraclitus interpretation holds for us

21:35

also has its roots in this from the

21:37

technical hermeneutical standpoint this

21:40

is a true textbook example of how few

21:42

unambiguous points of access such texts

21:44

offer for understanding and that nothing

21:46

is so untrustworthy as a quotation

21:48

ripped out of its

21:50

context as is well known heraclitus

21:53

doctrine of fire has precipitated along

21:55

effective history stretching all the way

21:57

from stoic num myology to the Christian

21:59

eschatological ideas of global

22:01

configration and

22:03

hellfires meanwhile this Doctrine has

22:06

been further elucidated and by Carl

22:08

Reinhardt in particular according to the

22:11

model of such philologists as Carl

22:13

Reinhardt it is apparently necessary to

22:16

First Take the literal sounding

22:17

heraclitus citations that we encounter

22:20

back into the context of the quoting

22:22

author and then based on his interests

22:25

determine the meaning he intended only

22:27

then can a Second Step succeed which

22:30

traces The Faults breaks splits and in

22:34

congruities that sometimes open up

22:36

within the heraclitus citation and

22:38

against the sense intended by the

22:39

quoting author these undertakings would

22:42

be hopeless if we did not have numerous

22:44

sayings from heraclitus that have

22:46

apparently been preserved word for word

22:48

precisely because of the distinctive

22:49

peculiarity of their diction his style

22:52

was renowned he seems to have had hardly

22:55

any literary models at best we encounter

22:59

a comparable tension and clear

23:00

definition of expression in the coral

23:02

ODS of tragedy which are fond of the

23:05

dialectical contraposto two as a poetic

23:07

parallel to the dance steps of the

23:09

chorus but here in heraclitus we find a

23:12

notoriously sententious Pros the

23:14

greatest mystery of which was its dir of

23:17

words perhaps we can glimpse a certain

23:19

initial stage of his style of thought

23:21

and speech in the few anaximander

23:23

fragments that we possess and which even

23:25

attracted the attention of theophrastus

23:27

as being particularly ceremonious deals

23:30

A9 in any case we have to proceed from a

23:34

negative Criterion wherever heraus

23:36

speaks plainly and clearly and it has

23:38

been occasionally alleged that he can do

23:40

this what is most peculiar to him will

23:42

barely come to language or at least is

23:46

no longer

23:47

recognizable for it can hardly be

23:50

doubted that some of the sayings

23:51

attributed to him oow their provocative

23:53

triviality merely to the fact that we do

23:55

not know the context from which they

23:57

presumably received their their gist

23:59

would heraclitus 30 mi from milus really

24:03

have proposed the doctrine that the sun

24:05

is of the size of a foot fragment 3

24:08

whether another received saying I.E

24:11

fragment 45 can be Associated so

24:14

trivially with a punch line as for

24:17

instance Herman Frankle tried to do it

24:20

is hard to say but there is more to it

24:24

many a received saying has within it a

24:26

hidden Harmony that is more striking

24:28

than the obvious one we can legitimately

24:30

take such sayings as the standard all

24:33

these considerations should only serve

24:35

to justify why it is a methodologically

24:38

allowable undertaking to read heraclitus

24:40

citations against the meaning that the

24:42

quoting author lends them and reduce

24:43

them to a tenseness of form that

24:45

eliminates the editing of the quoting

24:47

author this has already happened

24:49

successfully in some cases but experts

24:52

in the tradition like Carl Reinhardt

24:55

have pointed out repeatedly that given

24:57

the inaccurate most of reference and

24:59

quotation that was common in later

25:01

Antiquity many a heraclitus saying may

25:03

still drift unrecognized in the misty

25:05

Waters of the Christian

25:07

apologists it is all the more

25:09

astonishing however that even to this

25:12

day sayings handed down under the name

25:14

of heraclitus have not always attracted

25:16

the proper attention and effort needed

25:18

to distill from them the thoughts and

25:19

wording of heraclitus himself so I would

25:23

like to dedicate this small contribution

25:25

to an attempt at salvaging a new

25:27

fragment from hip polius one that the

25:29

collections have missed until now not

25:31

that it would have remained unknown for

25:34

the long list of heraclitus citations

25:36

that hippitus places together in his

25:38

ninth book and subjects to his

25:39

apologetical intent explicitly

25:41

distinguishes all the quoted sayings as

25:43

punitively herac Lon in the introduction

25:47

to this collection of citations which we

25:49

read as fragment 50 in deals a series of

25:52

oppositional pairs is recounted

25:55

presumably to which the subsequent

25:56

quotations should then correspond Bond

25:59

even fatherson occurs among these

26:01

oppositional peers at this point in

26:04

deals the list is already regarded as a

26:06

Christian addition but a purported

26:10

heraclitus saying declaring the unity of

26:12

Father and Son actually occurs as the

26:14

last quotation in the series it thus

26:17

corresponds to a kind of initial stage

26:19

of the Incarnation Dogma note

26:22

Mano H deos p

26:26

proro and genes in hio

26:30

Jus

26:33

heuu so long as the father did not come

26:36

into being can he rightly be named

26:39

father however when he condescended to

26:41

take becoming upon himself he became the

26:44

son of himself and not of someone else

26:47

so supposedly what the heric nois

26:50

teaches is already in the Heathen

26:52

heraclitus it is clear that the sense of

26:55

this sentence is Christian but it is

26:57

also clear even for from the wording

26:59

that a phrase like when he condescended

27:01

to take becoming upon himself could

27:04

never be

27:05

heraclitus even the understanding of the

27:07

word becoming in this text is that of a

27:09

Christian

27:10

platonism it is therefore understandable

27:13

that the collections of heraclitus

27:14

citations have not taken this quotation

27:17

into account what is heraclion about it

27:21

and yet our quoting author seems very

27:23

sure of his subject matter when he says

27:26

yet everyone knows that a according to

27:28

heraclitus Father and Son are the same

27:32

from where does everyone know this

27:34

evidently only from the purported

27:36

heraclitus citation that follows at that

27:39

point is this pure fiction or as in the

27:43

previous series of quotations is there a

27:45

real heraclitus saying at the bottom of

27:47

it one that expresses this Unity though

27:49

surely in a completely different sense I

27:53

think we have to consider this seriously

27:56

should it not be possible even in this

27:58

sentence to strip away the Christian

28:00

veneer and recover the words of

28:02

heraclitus as always with hermeneutical

28:05

problems of this sort one must follow

28:07

the First Essential pieces of evidence

28:09

that present themselves in this way I

28:13

have even had something like a modest

28:15

inspiration concerning this quotation at

28:17

two points the problematic issue of the

28:19

relationship of Father and Son and the

28:21

extreme brachy of the son of himself

28:25

quite apart from the question of whether

28:27

there is anything Christian here or not

28:29

if we were to consider what the sameness

28:31

of Father and Son could mean at all the

28:34

first thing that occurred to us for

28:35

heraclitus would probably not be the

28:37

unity of family and blood for the

28:40

genealogical unity of Father and Son as

28:42

it underlies the aristocratic model of

28:44

ethics and education or even the

28:46

political Unity of a ruling Dynasty

28:48

whose autocracy does not restrict itself

28:50

to the succession of the Sun as notis

28:53

apparently understood it is surely not

28:55

what is meant by that great loner acus

28:59

the man who claims to place himself

29:01

along with his Doctrine over against all

29:04

other human beings whatever is to be

29:07

rightly attributed to his name must

29:10

already be something

29:11

unexpected indeed in this case the

29:14

relationship of Father and Son lends

29:16

itself to a curious alternative

29:18

determination the father really only

29:20

becomes a father when he becomes the

29:22

father of his son could there be

29:25

something like this behind the quotation

29:27

by hippitus

29:28

the use of the word becoming in the

29:30

received passage certainly carries

29:32

unmistakably platonic

29:34

overtones but perhaps this platonic use

29:37

of the word was developed from a text

29:39

that occurs in a completely different

29:40

context one in which Jean thigh and

29:43

genus thigh becoming and having been

29:45

born are still one and the same indeed

29:49

we also say that one becomes a father

29:51

and this is also what it means in

29:53

hippitus in a different context

29:56

629 h a typ haor but the fact that one

30:01

becomes a father is at the same time the

30:03

consequence of One's Own action what

30:06

becomes here is evidently not just that

30:08

the generating father generates the son

30:10

ho genas peder in the language of Homer

30:14

rather he only generates himself as

30:16

father in thus generating the son

30:19

surprisingly this does occur in the text

30:22

when we reduce it to its elements deos

30:24

peder proro Genesis which means means a

30:28

father can justifiably be called

30:30

generated or even a father can

30:32

justifiably be addressed as a father

30:34

when he has become it if this is

30:37

supposed to be the gist of the sentence

30:39

then we can also understand quite well

30:41

the idea of the final Clause the idea

30:44

that in this instance one would be

30:46

generated by oneself and not as is added

30:50

explanatorily by someone else the father

30:54

who makes himself a father is so to

30:56

speak his own son and this occurs again

31:00

in the text with

31:01

heno heu which means the son of himself

31:06

this statement implies not only the

31:08

inseparability of being father and being

31:10

son as is natural to all relational

31:13

Concepts but also the sameness of

31:15

becoming father and becoming son this

31:18

corresponds very well to otherwise

31:20

familiar herac lighten oppositions

31:22

behind which the unity of the occurrence

31:24

has to be thought it also shows its

31:27

seems to me the full tness of the

31:30

heraclitean tone I would therefore

31:33

suspect this to be the heraclitean

31:34

wording dios Peter proro Jus heu one is

31:39

only rightly then called father when one

31:41

has become one and this does not just

31:44

mean that he is the generator the son of

31:46

himself and not that of another both

31:49

sets of parenthesis are merely

31:51

explications which I only added in order

31:54

to accentuate how paradoxical it is to

31:56

read genus expressed by him instead of

31:58

ho Genesis perer the other additions

32:02

serving the same purpose in the

32:03

traditional text of

32:05

hippitus we can put forward for this

32:07

reconstruction the idea that one could

32:10

understand how a Christian platonist

32:11

like notis or hippitus who were of

32:14

course very well acquainted not only

32:17

with the platonic concept of Genesis but

32:19

also with the dialectic of the

32:21

relational Concepts exploited this

32:23

well-honed formulation of heraclitus as

32:25

an anticipation of the Christian un of

32:28

Father and Son if my reconstruction is

32:31

correct hippitus apparently connects

32:33

notis monarchism to wh's autos heu and

32:36

thereby to the clever Paradox of the

32:38

unity of becoming father and becoming

32:40

son with which heraclitus carried on his

32:42

dialectical game incidentally this line

32:46

of argumentation is also handed down

32:48

with hippitus outside of all

32:50

relationship to heraclitus and belongs

32:52

to the ambivalent Trinity speculation of

32:54

the early church fathers in the long

32:57

Simon citation

32:59

68 it is called f APO heu D Ro all day p

33:07

e PR and an P certainly no one would

33:11

suspect heraclitus here but in our

33:14

passage there is no question of guessing

33:17

the text is handed down as the words of

33:19

heraclitus and the only methodical way

33:22

of rehabilitating it is to look for its

33:24

herac lien gist after all the Simon

33:27

parallel shows us how the alternate

33:29

edition of the hypothetical heraclitus

33:32

passage predicated on notis monarchism

33:35

was as it were in the air apparently

33:39

even the introduction to the poos

33:41

fragment page 53 alludes to this

33:45

Paradox at this point in hippitus the

33:47

father of all that has come into being

33:49

is called genos aenos disi hour goes the

33:53

second phrase is directed toward the

33:55

creation the first is directed toward

33:58

the Trinity or half of it but the first

34:01

phrase cannot be inferred at all from

34:03

the subsequent heraclitus citation as

34:05

such that the one proves himself to be

34:08

the father and the other to be the son

34:09

should come about through War so we can

34:12

see that having the sameness of Father

34:14

and Son constantly in mind suspends

34:16

hippitus from his dogmatic bias against

34:18

no etus and thus we are again LED

34:21

indirectly to the herac lighten

34:22

background of the passage we analyzed

34:25

above indeed a very different original

34:28

color has been exposed from behind the

34:30

Christian veneer the unity of generating

34:32

and becoming

34:33

generated this is entirely in keeping

34:36

with the style of hippitus lecture on

34:38

the doctrines of

34:39

heraclitus hippitus wants to show by

34:42

using heraclitus that notis has wrongly

34:46

claimed the sameness of Father and Son

34:48

to be Christian the quotation is

34:51

therefore polemically

34:53

motivated but this is precisely why it

34:55

is hardly a pure fabrication

34:58

on the other hand we need not be

35:00

surprised at the total capriciousness of

35:02

hippitus through whom in my

35:05

reconstruction heraclitus becomes

35:07

stylized into a pseudo-christian and

35:12

monarchism a similarly palpable

35:15

Christian veneer fragment 63 relates a

35:18

passage to the resurrection a passage

35:21

which again is unequivocally attributed

35:23

to

35:23

heraclitus the deal crant translation

35:26

reads at admittedly remaining quite

35:28

uncertain in view of the circumstances

35:30

of the transmission before him who is

35:33

there however they would arise and

35:35

become Watchers of the living and the

35:37

dead in the same context as a prior

35:40

reference to the world's trial by fire

35:42

follows the beautiful proposition

35:44

lightning steers all even in this

35:47

fragment 63 it does not seem to me all

35:50

that difficult to clear away the

35:52

Christian veneer Carl Reinhardt created

35:55

a good presupposition for this in that

35:56

he recognized the doctrine of osis as

35:59

stoic Christian and therefore discarded

36:01

such statements as fragment 66 for fire

36:05

will have approached everything judging

36:07

and seizing he capitulated however

36:11

before the above cited heraclitus

36:13

passage in fragment 63.1 would like to

36:16

attempt an interpretation by placing

36:18

myself in the conceptual world of

36:20

heraclitus there we find sufficient

36:22

evidence as in fragments 24 and 25 for

36:27

instance but compare 29 also that the

36:30

death of the hero in battle and the

36:32

exaltation of the fallen in the glory

36:34

and memory of the people has a bearing

36:36

on this we will not assume that

36:38

heraclitus attempted to subordinate

36:40

himself to the goals of a political

36:42

admonition rather the one lone wise

36:45

thing must also stand behind whatever it

36:47

was in heroic death and hero worship

36:49

that set him thinking I believe it is

36:52

what is sudden and unpredictable in the

36:54

changing of things that occupies him as

36:56

death in batt leads to the exaltation

36:59

and glorification of the fallen and

37:00

allows death to appear as a higher form

37:03

of life of course it is likewise said of

37:06

war that it proves one man to be a God

37:08

and another a human being it seems to me

37:11

that such exaltation in the most literal

37:14

sense occurs in our text in the Greek

37:16

phrase epot High raises itself in such a

37:21

context the idea that one turns into the

37:24

Watcher who watches takes on the meaning

37:26

that the Fallen one like a caretaker of

37:28

the just places all virtue and Glory

37:31

before the eyes of the others perhaps

37:34

even the Christian sounding phrase over

37:37

the living and the dead has a genuine

37:39

original sense here these icons of

37:41

Bravery stand erected for the survivors

37:44

just as they do for all of the Dead upon

37:46

whom no Fame attends the Christian echo

37:49

of Christ's journey to hell and his

37:50

Reign Over the living and the dead could

37:52

thus be quite supplementary just as

37:54

supplementary and surely as unwarranted

37:56

as the identific in the subsequent lines

37:58

of lightning with eternal fire it used

38:01

to be that if one wanted once again to

38:03

scrutinize the procedures of the mystery

38:05

Cults in great detail as deals does at

38:08

fragment 63 as well as at fragment 26

38:11

the fact that heraclitus positioning

38:14

himself as The Outsider clearly

38:16

criticized all such strange cult

38:18

practices fragment 51 would in principle

38:22

speak against such an

38:24

examination that his language May remind

38:27

us of the mystery Cults need not be

38:29

disputed but it goes without saying that

38:32

the man who ordained himself as the sole

38:34

initiate into the hopon could not equate

38:36

himself with the initiates of a cult

38:38

community in fact unambiguous evidence

38:42

teaches us that he posits himself as The

38:44

Outsider with respect to the religions

38:46

no less sharply than he does with

38:48

respect to the so-called sages it has

38:51

already been mentioned that heraclitus

38:53

doctrine of fire much like the unity of

38:55

Father and Son and the supposed

38:57

Resurrection found a Christian resonance

38:59

that was in this case stoically

39:03

mediated here too a stripping away of

39:06

the Christian veneer seems possible to

39:08

me and one should be wary of completely

39:10

rejecting any saying attributed to

39:12

heraclitus in this list of hippitus

39:15

citations Reinhardt has made it

39:17

plausible that heraclitus himself may

39:19

have called fire for nimon meaning

39:22

reasonable the idea that fire goes

39:24

together with brightness dryness finess

39:27

facility and thus in the end with

39:30

Insight also resonates with other parts

39:32

of

39:33

heraclitus thus we must look for a

39:36

connection between fire and the profound

39:38

things that heraclitus says about the

39:40

psyche in any case we always have to

39:43

consider to what extent an original

39:45

herac liten meaning can be guessed at

39:47

behind the Christian veneer the

39:50

statement panagard to perel hania kai

39:53

calps fire will judge and apprehend all

39:56

things is of this sort this could

39:59

actually be seen as a rational

40:01

expression by heraclitus if we were to

40:03

translate cryan not with to judge but

40:05

rather with to separate and we meant by

40:07

this only that fire is capable of

40:09

seizing all that is combustible to burn

40:12

and of making everything thing else glow

40:15

three indeed this would not simply be a

40:17

bad illusion to the cosmological problem

40:19

that fire is supposed to be an

40:21

elementary component of the world order

40:24

to think of the devouring flame that

40:26

consumes everything and which nothing

40:27

resists as a part of the existing order

40:29

of the universe is evidently a

40:31

particular problem for ancient

40:33

cosmology even timus the Pythagorean

40:37

finds himself LED toward the subtle

40:39

application of a double parallel in

40:40

order to hold Fire and Water apart in

40:43

the distribution of the elements so that

40:44

the world fillian timus

40:47

32b for heraclitus the peculiarity of

40:51

fire apparently lies in the irresistible

40:53

force with which it is able to seize

40:55

everything and yet it is Ling according

40:57

to measure and going out according to

41:00

measure a world order is not possible

41:02

without there being limits placed even

41:04

on fire as by the Ark of the sun's

41:06

course what is it however that allows

41:10

the consuming fire to rise to such a

41:12

level of expressive value that it can

41:14

oppose the Milan cosmological idea of

41:16

balance with provocative decisiveness

41:19

fragment 31 the milans taught the

41:22

transition of air water and Earth into

41:24

one another hence the change of

41:26

aggregates States but they certainly did

41:29

not include fire in this balancing

41:31

process as fragment 30 does on the

41:34

contrary we see what cosmological

41:37

trouble and axim Mander has connecting

41:39

the fire of heaven with the World Order

41:41

In Spite the consuming spread that is

41:42

peculiar to fire he invents that

41:45

dividing veence with apertures through

41:47

which the glow of fire shines in the

41:49

gentle Arc of warming or Illuminating

41:51

Heavenly Bodies deals

41:53

a12 heraclitus on the other hand dares

41:57

to single out fire that which lives

41:59

forever straightforwardly as the one

42:01

behind all appearances and

42:03

transitions this is certainly less

42:05

cosmology than it is critique underlying

42:08

this is an interest in viewing psyche

42:10

and thinking together with fire this can

42:13

be Illustrated in two ways first in the

42:17

herac lighten Unity of flowing and

42:19

standing still that the consuming light

42:21

the oil lamp and its standing flame lock

42:24

up so well within themselves like the

42:26

sameness of the Soul which steams up

42:28

from out of the moisture fragment 12

42:31

then up to the highest condition the

42:34

human being strikes a light in the night

42:36

entirely from out of himself fragment

42:40

26 according to this the doctrine of

42:43

flux and the doctrine of the Soul seem

42:45

to belong together in the most intimate

42:47

way I do not want to treat the Obscure

42:50

fragment 264 here in its entirety rather

42:54

I would only like to point out that the

42:55

stylistic reconstruction of the sentence

42:57

seems to me still very much lacking as

43:00

verbose as this proposition sounds

43:03

heraclitus certainly was in this

43:06

fragment to be later explanatory

43:08

additions and I wonder whether

43:10

heraclitus did not also expect that when

43:12

he said life we would understand death

43:14

at the same time six but it is yet

43:17

another side of this connection that

43:18

makes Fire's cosmological distinction

43:21

comprehensible heraclitus certainly saw

43:24

fire and heat as one and the same in

43:26

principle as did Plato it is fire that

43:29

is in us and everything that has heat

43:32

the open outbreak of fire is something

43:34

quite different only with regard to

43:36

appearances and only in the eyes of

43:38

layman this is how heraclitus must have

43:40

thought of it if this is correct then a

43:43

way to make the two-sidedness of heat

43:45

fire and Flame fire on the one hand and

43:47

of life and Consciousness on the other a

43:49

little more understandable seems to

43:51

suggest itself to me and once again so

43:54

that a reference to heraclitus imposes

43:56

itself as an unexpected place it is a

43:59

passage in Plato's chids 168 F the

44:04

question of the self-relatedness of

44:06

knowledge is discernable there hearing

44:08

and seeing as well as the movement that

44:10

moves itself and all such things may

44:12

admittedly have much that is implausible

44:15

yet Perhaps not for some even if it

44:18

requires a great man to distinguish that

44:20

this movement has its dynames within

44:22

itself the context of the sentence aims

44:25

at the Paradox of a knowledge that knows

44:27

nothing but itself as a rule relatedness

44:30

is always directed towards something

44:32

else for example the bigger toward the

44:35

smaller

44:37

168c but seeing and hearing also clearly

44:40

have something like a relation back to

44:42

themselves just as when Aristotle says

44:45

with regard to seeing and hearing that

44:47

there is a perception of the perception

44:49

Dana 3:2 as an initial stage of the

44:52

knowledge of knowledge therefore these

44:55

two examples are quite ENT it is much

44:58

the same with self-movement which is

45:00

indeed the secret of life the psyche in

45:04

fact this is how Plato in the fadis and

45:07

in book 10 of the laws taught this

45:09

self-relatedness of the psyche that is

45:12

the movement that moves itself this is

45:14

also a good connecting link between

45:16

Vision hearing and knowledge but in this

45:19

list in among the senses and

45:21

self-movement and ultimately the

45:23

knowledge of knowledge there now

45:24

conspicuously stands what I omitted from

45:27

the text kotkin the heat that Kindles

45:31

heat here seems to have invoked a kind

45:34

of self-movement or spontaneous

45:36

combustion the phenomenon being

45:38

described here is clearly the sudden

45:40

flaring up of flames from the heated log

45:43

this stands here between the

45:45

self-movement of what is living and the

45:46

self-relatedness of knowledge now it

45:50

also seems to me that this position is

45:52

not entirely

45:53

insignificant what is astounding about

45:55

this phenomenon is it lack of transition

45:59

in the light having been ignited

46:00

everything has all of a sudden become

46:02

completely different fragment 26 hapes

46:06

thy as in the appearance of lightning as

46:08

in the brightness of self-igniting

46:10

thought it was surely not a natural

46:13

scientific interest that heraclitus took

46:15

in the idea of kindling probably no more

46:17

than it was an interest in the

46:19

transformations of fire fragment 31 it

46:22

was the incomprehensibility of the

46:24

mediation transition that sets him think

46:26

thinking about this as well as about the

46:28

one the transitionless of this

46:31

transition from sleep to wakefulness or

46:33

from life to death ultimately points

46:35

toward the enigmatic experience of

46:37

thinking which suddenly awakens and then

46:39

sinks again completely Into Darkness

46:42

hercus remains a constant challenge for

46:45

every kind of thinking men like Hegel n

46:48

and haidegger meet this challenge in

46:50

fundamentally different ways countless

46:53

pages of phological commentary on

46:55

heraclitus have been proded Ed but what

46:58

was valid for Antiquity still seems

47:00

valid today he is still the dark one

47:04

there is no single reliable fundamental

47:06

perspective that allows us to grasp this

47:08

figure shimmering between moralism and

47:11

metaphysics nevertheless it seems to me

47:14

that two points have not been

47:15

sufficiently considered the way that

47:17

Plato is related to heraclitus and the

47:19

style in which heraclitus constructs his

47:22

propositions at the outset I will

47:24

delineate the philosophical significance

47:26

ass iated with every heraclitus

47:28

interpretation and then I will enter

47:30

into the hermeneutical problem often in

47:33

a phological way what we possess of

47:36

heraclitus are isolated citations from

47:38

later authors beginning with Plato and

47:41

running through the whole of later

47:43

Antiquity in addition to these later

47:45

citations with heraclitus there is also

47:48

the question of the aphoristic

47:49

propositions that were already famous in

47:52

Antiquity because of their darkness and

47:53

their

47:54

profundity Socrates is supposed to have

47:57

said that what he understood of them was

47:59

Splendid he trusted therefore that the

48:02

many propositions that he had not

48:04

understood were equally Splendid

48:07

admittedly it would take a Delan diver a

48:09

master diver to bring this treasure from

48:11

out of the depths toward the light one

48:15

but there is yet another enormous

48:17

difficulty that constantly diverts Us in

48:19

all our philosophical understandings of

48:21

Greek thinking and it is operative in

48:23

the case of heraclitus as well it is the

48:26

goinging effect of the institution of

48:28

modern science the pioneering Act of

48:31

which was Galilean physics and which

48:32

dominates all of our habitual modes of

48:35

thought ever since Galileo the concept

48:38

of method has been deemed to be

48:39

constitutive of what can be called

48:42

science this is connected with the fact

48:44

that the philosophy of modernity has

48:46

erected its philosophical self-

48:48

grounding upon the concept of

48:50

self-consciousness as a rule we look to

48:53

decart famous meditation on doubt for

48:55

the turning point that is esta lished

48:57

with the development of the modern

48:58

Natural

48:59

Sciences there the kajo Ergo Su was

49:02

singled out as the individal reality of

49:05

whatever thinks and doubts and as the

49:06

shest and most unshakable fundament of

49:09

all certainty to be sure this was not

49:12

yet a philosophy of reflection in the

49:14

full sense of the word a philosophy

49:16

grounded in the concept of the subject

49:18

and from out of which a new sense of

49:20

objectivity redefines itself but ever

49:23

since K took up the cartisan distinction

49:25

of the residential citans in the

49:27

critical demonstration of his

49:29

transcendental philosophy and grounded

49:31

the justification of the concepts of the

49:33

understanding upon the synthesis of

49:35

Apperception upon the fact that the I

49:37

think must be able to accompany all of

49:39

my ideas the concept of subjectivity has

49:42

been elevated to a central position

49:45

developing this as a program the

49:47

followers of K especially fited derive

49:51

all justification for truth all

49:53

grounding for validity in general from

49:55

the principle of

49:57

self-consciousness thus the Primacy of

50:00

self-consciousness as opposed to the

50:02

consciousness of something became the

50:04

stigma of modern thinking even who sur's

50:07

ambitious attempt to develop Philosophy

50:10

for the first time into a strict science

50:12

remained firmly rooted in the soil the

50:15

soil from which the Bold thought

50:16

experiments of haidegger and Vicken

50:18

Stein sought to free themselves by that

50:21

time in fact German idealism had already

50:25

formulated something that car

50:26

characterized in philosophically

50:28

appropriate terms the new place of

50:31

humanity in the world the aggressive

50:33

attitude of modern science toward the

50:35

nature that surrounds Us

50:38

subjectivity in the form of

50:39

transcendental philosophy has

50:41

accompanied the triumphal March of

50:44

science meanwhile doubts about the

50:46

certainty of self-consciousness have

50:48

taken hold of modern science and kept it

50:50

in suspense it began with n the

50:54

psychologist in N issued the following

50:57

challenge regarding decart meditation on

50:59

doubt it must be doubted even more

51:02

fundamentally this fulfilled itself in

51:04

the radical unnerving of naive

51:06

self-certainty and led to such doubts

51:08

about the assertion of

51:09

self-consciousness as we are confronted

51:11

with from the most Divergent of

51:12

perspectives from historicism from the

51:15

critique of ideology or from

51:18

psychoanalysis ever since nche

51:20

constantly rethinking the problematic

51:22

Central role that self-consciousness

51:24

plays in philosophy has become an

51:26

avoidable task we can be led into this

51:29

question by the phenomenological

51:31

evidence that France brentano first

51:33

reproduced and that Aristotle had not

51:35

been altogether unaware of in his

51:37

anthropology Dana F or even in his

51:40

grounding of first philosophy upon the

51:42

self-thinking news over against the

51:45

intentionality of a Consciousness that

51:47

is always consciousness of something the

51:49

reflexivity of self-consciousness holds

51:51

a secondary status the Primacy of

51:55

self-consciousness can only be

51:56

maintained if we Grant an absolute

51:58

priority to the ideal of certainty or

52:01

better yet to the ideal of

52:03

methodologically confirming the validity

52:05

of mathematical construction with

52:06

respect to reality as it has constituted

52:09

the essence of the modern Natural

52:11

Sciences ever since gallileo even though

52:14

as the prime of movens and as constant

52:16

self-presence it is the highest of

52:18

beings the god of artian onto theology

52:22

in no way functions as grounding or

52:24

securing human knowledge the structure

52:27

of selfhood points toward contexts other

52:29

than that fundamentum Inc concuss by

52:31

which self-consciousness holds firm

52:33

against all septic ISM if anything can

52:36

truly come to the aid of our modern

52:37

reflection on the riddle of

52:39

self-consciousness it is probably the

52:41

fact that the Greeks possessed neither

52:43

an expression for the subject or

52:45

subjectivity nor an expression for

52:47

Consciousness and the concept of the eye

52:49

even though they ultimately took that

52:51

which shows itself into consideration

52:53

along with the Wonder of thinking itself

52:55

the Greeks

52:56

including Aristotle did not assert a

52:59

central position for

53:01

self-consciousness in order to be freed

53:03

from this modernistic perspective we

53:06

find ourselves directed back into the

53:08

historical Dimension that leads from

53:10

decart to Augustine from Augustine to

53:13

Plato now I would like to show that from

53:16

Plato it must be traced back even

53:19

further to

53:20

heraclitus the question poses itself as

53:23

to whether we may view heraclitus from

53:25

this problem context of

53:26

self-consciousness at all or whether his

53:29

thinking does not direct us along a

53:31

different path instead that is toward

53:33

the place of human beings in the world

53:36

heraclitus enjoys a special Fame he owes

53:40

this Fame not just to his AB mentioned

53:42

proverbial darkness and not just to the

53:43

use to which Plato had already put his

53:46

name and ultimately not to his presence

53:49

in Hegel who at the end of the entire

53:52

thought path of Western metaphysics said

53:54

that there was not a single proposition

53:56

in in heraclitus that he could not take

53:58

up into his own logic moreover

54:01

heraclitus thinking exerted A peculiar

54:03

attraction for nich's radical extremism

54:06

as well as for hager's insight into the

54:08

end and the beginning of

54:09

metaphysics at one time anyone who had

54:12

been in hager's Hut in tatn high in the

54:15

Black Forest would have seen carved into

54:18

a piece of bark above the front door the

54:21

heraclitean statement lightning steers

54:23

all to a strange and deeply moving

54:26

statement and an apparent

54:28

Paradox in place of the Steady Hand That

54:30

steers the ship through the waves we

54:32

find the lightning that flashes suddenly

54:34

and then goes out we can puzzle over the

54:37

meaning of this statement but the

54:39

interpretation that prevails to this day

54:41

that of seeing the lighting as the

54:43

attribute of an all steering godhead

54:45

fails to hear the Paradox that should

54:47

definitely be attended to in

54:49

heraclitus of course the particular

54:52

Fascination that emanates from

54:54

heraclitus does not ultimately depend

54:56

upon the paradoxes and dialectical

54:58

structure of such

55:00

statements the speculative tension of

55:02

his thinking leads him again and again

55:04

to the most extreme and finely honed

55:06

formulations all of these formulations

55:09

are like the proposition concerning the

55:11

ever-flowing river that is never the

55:12

same when we step into it and up out of

55:14

which the soul steams fragment 12 now of

55:19

course as modern Scholars bred to

55:21

historical critique we cannot

55:23

immediately get ourselves involved in a

55:25

naive ident identification with the

55:27

Mythic power of such statements we must

55:30

concentrate on the respective conditions

55:32

of the tradition the conditions that

55:34

offer us access to the texts which we

55:37

are reading as

55:39

fragments meanwhile we know all too well

55:42

what quotations are what we can do with

55:45

quotations how we can misuse quotations

55:48

their meanings being hidden to the point

55:50

of inde decipher ability heraclitus

55:53

scholarship is thus a special kind of

55:55

hermeneutical task

55:57

we must constantly ask ourselves how

55:59

does one uncover how does one excavate

56:02

what is suggested to us by the quoting

56:04

authors in their prior understandings

56:07

and with which methods can we reach a

56:08

historically appropriate and

56:10

nevertheless philosophically meaningful

56:12

understanding of heraclitus and his

56:14

statements from the outset I think a

56:17

certain priority can now be claimed for

56:19

our oldest witness and that is Plato his

56:23

writings are the very first

56:24

philosophical texts that we possess in

56:27

their

56:27

entirety everything earlier is fragments

56:30

that is citations or collections of

56:33

citations from later writers who no

56:35

doubt still knew heraclitus book but who

56:38

enlisted it precisely for their own

56:40

purposes Plato of course also did this

56:44

in that he orchestrated his own thinking

56:46

with his references to

56:47

heraclitus but he remains our oldest

56:50

witness the platonic dialogues yield a

56:53

particularly ambivalent picture of

56:55

heraclitus

56:56

on the one hand heraclitus is employed

56:59

as the originator and symbol of a

57:01

worldview which knows nothing of the

57:03

abiding sameness of the essence of

57:04

things of the idos but instead sees

57:07

everything in change everything in flux

57:11

in one famous construct in the Theus

57:14

152e Plato characterizes all previous

57:17

thinkers from Homer to protagoras with

57:20

the single exception of parids as herac

57:23

liton for anyone familiar with the pl IC

57:26

mode this means that heraclitus is

57:28

stylized here as a type A type that does

57:31

not necessarily concur with what Plato

57:33

himself had seen in heraclitus or even

57:36

what heraclitus actually said and

57:38

intended it is amazing how Plato clumps

57:41

everyone together here as

57:43

heraclion here heraclitus simply

57:46

presents a kind of

57:47

countertype whatever is placed under his

57:50

name should Point emphatically toward

57:51

the exception which in Plato's eyes

57:55

presents the Great itic as the precursor

57:57

of Plato's own thinking of the idos if

58:00

we keep in mind the other references to

58:02

heraclitus in the platonic Corpus

58:05

however all of a sudden the situation

58:07

appears entirely different in a famous

58:10

passage from the sophist 242 cff to

58:14

which we must look for the roots of all

58:16

our scholarly knowledge of presocratic

58:18

doctrines it is said of the earlier ones

58:20

that while one taught that the many was

58:23

what truly existed another taught just

58:25

the contrary that it was the one but the

58:28

ionian and Sicilian Muses thought it

58:30

clever to weave the one and the many

58:31

together by ionian Muses he undoubtedly

58:34

means

58:35

heraclitus at this point it is said of

58:38

these ionian Muses who speak through

58:40

heraclitus that they thought more

58:42

sharply than the Sicilians in that they

58:43

did not just teach about the alternation

58:45

of Multiplicity and unity of global

58:48

periods of dispersion and of coming back

58:50

together into a Unity as idals dactic

58:53

poem did The Sharper thesis is the

58:56

simultaneity of the one and the many the

58:59

simultaneity of self-dispersing and

59:01

self-

59:01

unifying what is ascribed to heraclitus

59:04

here is the idea that the one and the

59:06

many are the whole truth of being not

59:08

alternatively but in one in reference to

59:12

this Plato has the stranger from ellia

59:14

quote a statement from

59:16

heraclitus this statement is encountered

59:18

one more time in platoo where it is

59:20

cited by The Physician Eric simus

59:23

symposium

59:25

187a as with most Greek citations the

59:28

precise formulation of this statement is

59:31

uncertain it is of course a feature of

59:34

the Elegance of this kind of writing

59:36

that wherever possible one does not use

59:38

literal quotations but rather one builds

59:41

them into one's own thought processes

59:43

one of the main difficulties that the

59:44

Greeks present for us is to Divine where

59:46

a quotation begins and to what extent

59:48

there is an accommodation to their own

59:50

way of thinking three the statement

59:53

legitimate by Plato reads diap hero on

59:56

AI s Tha sopus

59:59

242e corresponding to this is to henar

1:00:03

diap Hero man on autoo is syus thy

1:00:06

hosper haronian toxo te kyus Symposium

1:00:10

187a C fragments 51 and 8 in English

1:00:15

this means the one that places itself

1:00:18

apart from itself joins itself together

1:00:20

with itself a most highly paradoxical

1:00:24

formulation heraclitus to give examples

1:00:27

of such

1:00:28

paradoxes thus in the Symposium he

1:00:31

continues like the harmony of the bow

1:00:33

and the liar and somewhat similarly The

1:00:37

Barley drink that is not stirred

1:00:38

separates itself for heraclitus

1:00:41

illustrates his real wisdom his safon in

1:00:45

many such examples in the Symposium the

1:00:48

same phrase that is incountered in the

1:00:50

sophist is placed in the mouth of the

1:00:52

physician Eric simus and this is

1:00:54

significant his inability

1:00:57

to understand the speculative Unity of

1:01:00

opposites is caricatured in the way the

1:01:01

doctor exercises a high-handed critique

1:01:04

of

1:01:05

heraclitus the sophist passage shows

1:01:07

unequivocally that Plato understood very

1:01:09

well that heraclitus did not like Eric

1:01:12

simus intend a Unity to emerge as the

1:01:15

final result idah hyon homology s

1:01:18

Symposium 187 B1 on the contrary the

1:01:23

main thing is precisely the simultaneity

1:01:25

C fragment 18 to antan

1:01:28

soron thus we have here a secure Point

1:01:31

of Departure that is confirmed moreover

1:01:34

by innumerable variations of the same

1:01:36

thing the question is how to bring

1:01:39

together the herac lionism of existing

1:01:41

things that are constantly in flux and

1:01:43

the tense dialectical Unity that is as

1:01:45

it were squeezed together into such

1:01:48

statements let us proceed from the

1:01:50

phenomena that heraclitus has in mind

1:01:53

there is the river into which everything

1:01:55

flows in constant change but it is the

1:01:58

same river five in the end the river 2

1:02:03

is an example of the unity of opposites

1:02:05

of which heraclitus speaks in countless

1:02:07

phrases War and Peace hunger and satiety

1:02:10

Mortals and Immortals Gods and Men and

1:02:14

so on a raft of extreme

1:02:16

oppositions he maintains that they are

1:02:18

all one the example of the river works

1:02:21

best here in terms of the unity of the

1:02:23

course of the river and the restlessness

1:02:25

of its flow

1:02:26

the mysterious problem that shows itself

1:02:28

behind all of these oppositions is

1:02:30

apparently the fact that what is the

1:02:32

same shows itself as another another

1:02:34

with no transition at issue in all of

1:02:37

these examples is what the Greeks called

1:02:39

metaboly V abrupt change it is

1:02:41

distinguished by its precipitous

1:02:43

suddenness the fundamental experience of

1:02:46

thinking here seems to be the essential

1:02:48

unreliability of everything that shows

1:02:50

itself sometimes in this way and

1:02:52

sometimes in another in the very next

1:02:55

moment it can be be different again and

1:02:56

no longer present itself in this way the

1:02:59

insight into the unreliability of all

1:03:02

things that already clearly underlies

1:03:04

elatic thinking no doubt also inspired

1:03:06

Plato's thinking of the idos as I see it

1:03:10

the ironic artificiality with which the

1:03:12

herac Lans in the Theus are introduced

1:03:14

speaks to the fact that Plato first

1:03:16

erected the counter construct to the

1:03:18

universal flux in order to outline his

1:03:20

thinking of the

1:03:21

idos perhaps he was also already

1:03:24

encountering the doctrine

1:03:26

itself in culus and other genuine herac

1:03:29

litens this seems to me to follow

1:03:31

indirectly from the way in which the

1:03:33

elatic theme is deferred in the

1:03:35

Theus in a way that awakens a certain

1:03:38

tension this part of the text prefigures

1:03:40

more than just elatic thinking and in

1:03:43

particular the

1:03:45

sophist I think the reason why Socrates

1:03:47

leaves the doctrine of parad aside

1:03:50

speaks even more clearly here because

1:03:53

otherwise that for the sake of which we

1:03:55

are Eng engaged in our discussion the

1:03:57

essence of knowledge would remain

1:03:59

unexamined six as if knowledge would be

1:04:01

at all understandable without elatic

1:04:03

thinking evidently this is indeed the

1:04:06

precise doctrine that the eadus has to

1:04:08

draw from his conversation with Socrates

1:04:11

and it is for this reason that the lead

1:04:13

role in the conversation on the next day

1:04:15

is transferred into the hands of the

1:04:17

stranger from Elia in this discussion of

1:04:20

the sophists the eadus first learns what

1:04:22

knowledge is not immediate evidence but

1:04:25

but logos but as to whether heraclitus

1:04:29

himself would also have had to learn

1:04:31

this first the process theory that

1:04:33

Socrates develops in the Theus from the

1:04:36

doctrine of flux has its strongest

1:04:38

support in heraclitus statement about

1:04:40

the always new Waters that flow through

1:04:42

the Same Rivers this however seems to

1:04:46

point in a completely different

1:04:47

direction souls to steam up from the

1:04:51

moisture fragment 12 and it is precisely

1:04:54

their logos that seems unfathomable

1:04:57

fragment

1:04:58

45 this seems to be a profound suspicion

1:05:01

of heraclitus and this is precisely what

1:05:04

the interests of modernity are

1:05:05

particularly drawn to the structure of

1:05:08

self-consciousness appears to be

1:05:10

implicit here and the logos is in fact

1:05:13

thought as the principle of the world

1:05:16

Hegel

1:05:17

anti-dm but how does this fit in with

1:05:19

the rest of the tradition of course as

1:05:22

everyone knows this tradition Bears the

1:05:25

deci of stamp of

1:05:26

Aristotle he is the main source for our

1:05:29

knowledge of the presocratic in general

1:05:32

but in Aristotle matters involving

1:05:35

heraclitus look quite bad Aristotle

1:05:38

tells us that some people claim

1:05:40

evidently because of his paradoxical

1:05:42

formulations that heraclitus did not

1:05:45

consider the basic principle of all

1:05:47

knowledge the principle of contradiction

1:05:50

to be valid metaphysics

1:05:53

f315

1:05:54

B24 even if he clearly did not take this

1:05:57

polemical assertion entirely seriously

1:06:00

in Aristotle's eyes this could not be a

1:06:04

recommendation of Greater import is the

1:06:07

fact that his real main concern physics

1:06:10

can be connected to heraclitus only with

1:06:12

extraordinary difficulty this leaves

1:06:15

much to be considered Aristotle's

1:06:18

guiding perspective which he sees

1:06:20

confirmed in his scrutiny of the

1:06:21

presocratic and which he puts forward

1:06:23

against Plato's pythagoreanism is not so

1:06:26

much the articulation of a universe

1:06:28

ordered in terms of numbers and

1:06:30

proportions as it is the ontological

1:06:32

constitution of nature physis moving

1:06:35

itself from out of itself this intuition

1:06:38

of the nature of the universe teaches us

1:06:40

that it contains itself it moves and

1:06:42

orders itself it is balanced within

1:06:45

itself thus in his eyes Greek cosmology

1:06:49

develops itself as the truth that lies

1:06:51

at the heart of the cosmogonies of the

1:06:53

most ancient thinkers cosmogony that

1:06:55

were supported originally by religion

1:06:57

and then more and more by scientific

1:07:00

observation the world needs no Atlas to

1:07:02

carry it it contains itself and holds

1:07:06

itself in order this is also the case in

1:07:09

the FED c99 BC what we know of

1:07:13

heraclitus does not fit this very well

1:07:16

the idea that what is is fundamentally

1:07:18

fire is not very well suited to making

1:07:20

the stable order of the universe or the

1:07:22

story of its origination understandable

1:07:25

OB obviously the all-c consuming fire

1:07:27

cannot be prevented by any limitations

1:07:30

from devouring everything it does not

1:07:33

allow itself to be properly compatible

1:07:35

with the other elements with the help of

1:07:38

arithmetic and the doctrine of

1:07:40

proportions plos timus depicts for us

1:07:43

how in The Ordering of the universe it

1:07:44

is not just Earth and fire but by means

1:07:47

of air water and fire two that are

1:07:50

artfully held separate from one another

1:07:53

timus 31 BFF if anaximander one of the

1:07:57

great ionian inquirers prior to

1:07:59

heraclitus is supposed to have explained

1:08:02

the role of the heavenly bodies and

1:08:04

their forms he seems to have gotten

1:08:06

himself into a serious

1:08:08

predicament the Sun the moon provided

1:08:11

that one does not know that it only has

1:08:13

borrowed light and the stars are

1:08:15

certainly fire but how can fire have

1:08:18

such a clear form and outline and always

1:08:20

illuminate in the same way at this point

1:08:23

anaximander comes upon the idea of the

1:08:26

holes the apertures in the great Vault

1:08:28

of the heavens through which the fire

1:08:30

blazing behind it shines for us as an

1:08:32

unperturbed

1:08:33

illumination or so at least the

1:08:36

doxography tells us vs12

1:08:39

a11 now there is certainly another way

1:08:42

to think the mysterious essence of fire

1:08:44

as a cosmic principle and that is its

1:08:47

presence in everything that is warm the

1:08:50

fact that the origin of life depends

1:08:52

upon warmth has something Illuminating

1:08:54

about it and we need

1:08:56

only think of the doxography on

1:08:58

anaximander 12830 in order to illustrate

1:09:02

this a material interpretation of fire

1:09:05

as an element of things however is not

1:09:08

provided here and the testimonies for

1:09:10

such an interpretation are not exactly

1:09:13

promising to be sure in the citus 413 D3

1:09:18

Plato mentions an interpretation of fire

1:09:20

as the warm itself Auto to Thurman which

1:09:23

is within fire but he does so in a

1:09:26

context that is not only extremely

1:09:28

playful but is also completely unsuited

1:09:30

to a cosmogonical perspective the crus

1:09:34

413 B4 C1 alludes much more to

1:09:37

heraclitus idea of the Sun that

1:09:39

constantly rekindles itself NEOS

1:09:42

fhra fragment 6 or of the Sun that never

1:09:46

sets to me dunan Po fragment 16 even the

1:09:51

reference to heraclitus son in the poia

1:09:53

Republic 6 for 998a testifies to the

1:09:57

fact that this doctrine of heraclitus

1:09:59

was quite well known though it was

1:10:01

certainly not famous for its

1:10:03

cosmological

1:10:04

progressiveness in any case nothing is

1:10:07

reminiscent of heraclitus in other

1:10:09

passages in Plato where fire and heat

1:10:11

appear as almost the same thing s

1:10:14

Aristotle barely mentions heraclitus in

1:10:17

his introductions to the physics and the

1:10:19

metaphysics simplicius in physics 21 1

1:10:23

FF puts forward a pure construct

1:10:27

stemming ostensibly from theophrastus

1:10:29

and has quite a good look into its

1:10:31

difficulties himself 8 even if we assume

1:10:34

fire to be in everything that is warm

1:10:36

and therefore in everything that is

1:10:38

alive as we perhaps might on the basis

1:10:40

of Plato n the cosmological problem of

1:10:43

fire remains difficult it will not allow

1:10:46

itself to be understood properly as an

1:10:48

element as a

1:10:50

constituent Aristotle does not know

1:10:52

where to begin with this indeed

1:10:55

it is not easy to see how one would

1:10:57

build a cosmology on the basis of the

1:10:59

Primal phenomenon of fire did heraclitus

1:11:03

construct a cosmology at all we have

1:11:06

reasons to doubt this in the first place

1:11:09

there is an ancient tradition that in my

1:11:12

view we have not taken seriously enough

1:11:15

apparently the impression made by

1:11:18

Aristotle and theophrastus is so strong

1:11:20

that we view all of the presocratic the

1:11:22

same way as

1:11:24

cosmologists in ciceronian times

1:11:27

diodotus

1:11:28

a stoic who still knew the heraclitus

1:11:31

text passed down to us the idea that the

1:11:34

text of heraclitus did not deal with

1:11:36

nature at all but rather with the poia

1:11:38

the state whatever was said in it about

1:11:41

nature would only have been said for

1:11:43

purposes of

1:11:44

illustration ten yet we must ask

1:11:46

ourselves whether this was really just a

1:11:48

moralistic stoic

1:11:50

reinterpretation as the reputed title

1:11:52

undoubtedly suggests a precise compan

1:11:55

for the direction of Life 11 or whether

1:11:58

there is something true in it in any

1:12:00

case when we scrutinize the mass of

1:12:03

heraclitus citations we find a very

1:12:05

large number of evidently political and

1:12:07

moralistic statements that exert a

1:12:09

powerful appeal again and again for

1:12:12

example there is a bitter critique of

1:12:14

the political blindness and imprudence

1:12:16

of his fellow countrymen we also have

1:12:19

other passages all of which belong to

1:12:21

the moral-political

1:12:23

dimension saman evidence points in this

1:12:26

same direction in Greek usage the word

1:12:29

fesus is for the most part practical

1:12:33

reasonableness and thus does not connote

1:12:35

so much the theoretical use of Reason 12

1:12:38

thus there is an entire list of

1:12:40

indications advising us to take the

1:12:41

cited utterances of the stoic seriously

1:12:45

13 we must ask ourselves whether

1:12:47

heraclitus was a rival of the ionian

1:12:49

cosmologists at all and not more likely

1:12:51

one of their critics just as parids no

1:12:53

doubt also functioned is such a Critic

1:12:56

how are we supposed to decide such a

1:12:58

question when the tradition does not

1:13:00

just leave us in the Lurch but leads us

1:13:02

into error with even greater Zeal it is

1:13:05

not just the interests of the

1:13:07

metaphysician Aristotle that steer Us in

1:13:10

this direction the moralistic over

1:13:12

interpretation of this supposed

1:13:14

cosmology by the later stoics and church

1:13:16

fathers Imports something foreign into

1:13:18

it as well the world

1:13:21

congration for the church fathers this

1:13:23

was conceptually speaking the fire of

1:13:26

hell they could presuppose that

1:13:29

heraclitus already knew something of

1:13:31

this this is how they understood his

1:13:33

doctrine of fire they were also familiar

1:13:36

with the fact that the stoics had taught

1:13:38

the doctrine of the world congration the

1:13:41

osis in Christian theology the

1:13:44

conflagration of the world becomes the

1:13:46

Judgment of the world but does the herac

1:13:49

lighten statement that all of this seems

1:13:51

to go back to really say that everything

1:13:53

goes up in flames

1:13:55

it is fragment 66 panagar FY to perel

1:14:00

hania Kai

1:14:02

calps what is the proper

1:14:04

translation as a rule we understand the

1:14:07

pair of Greek verbs as to condemn and as

1:14:09

to grasp or perhaps take into custody

1:14:13

indeed these are words that are familiar

1:14:15

to us as legal expressions and to that

1:14:18

extent fit the idea of the last judgment

1:14:22

hippitus then with great enthusiasm also

1:14:25

quotes the statement in this way but

1:14:28

crinian primarily means to cut to

1:14:30

differentiate to separate the statement

1:14:34

can thus very well mean that fire

1:14:36

separates everything 14 everything is

1:14:39

burned in the incandescence of fire

1:14:40

until it disintegrates into ashes this

1:14:44

is precisely why Catal amanian is far

1:14:46

from always meaning to take into custody

1:14:49

but its primary meaning is instead

1:14:50

simply to grasp to lay hold of this is

1:14:55

indeed the fire that can bring

1:14:57

everything into its glow so that even

1:14:59

the stones coals become fiery as they

1:15:02

glow in the Flames a beautiful intuitive

1:15:04

example of the fact that even the Earth

1:15:06

becomes fire 15 the magma of the volcano

1:15:09

is a good illustration of this thus the

1:15:12

statement invoked for osis in heraclitus

1:15:15

could have had a completely different

1:15:16

meaning than the one that as a rule has

1:15:19

been imposed upon it but who knows

1:15:23

nevertheless we must consider the fact

1:15:26

that the statement primarily has the

1:15:27

sense exhibited here and at most the

1:15:30

underlying moral sense should be allowed

1:15:32

to

1:15:33

resonate this of course is only a

1:15:36

hypothesis that cannot act as a

1:15:38

self-sufficient Authority nevertheless

1:15:42

there are still some supporting

1:15:44

indicators for this statement and its

1:15:46

interpretation and we find them above

1:15:49

all in the eological play of the citus

1:15:52

412 DF their fire is mentioned as the

1:15:56

warm itself that is within fire 413 C3

1:16:00

along with helos and an aoran news as

1:16:03

something that permeates all appearances

1:16:05

and is brought into connection with what

1:16:07

is just the

1:16:09

Dicken this is indeed herac lien in the

1:16:11

sense of the crus to the extent that in

1:16:14

its relative quickness this fastest and

1:16:16

smallest Tachi Stan Kai lepot on for2 D5

1:16:21

lets everything else appear as what is

1:16:23

hostest high OS Presto SE toys allots 4

1:16:27

12 D7 in exactly the same way that the

1:16:30

theory of motion in the Theus 156 cff

1:16:34

interprets being in any case this crus

1:16:38

witticism best reflects how the just the

1:16:41

diac ion is filled up as it were with

1:16:44

materiality by means of the fire that

1:16:46

penetrates everything 16 let us ask

1:16:49

ourselves how we are able to proceed any

1:16:52

further at all in the uncertainty that

1:16:54

comes over us in this situation that we

1:16:56

have inherited in my opinion there is

1:16:59

only one methodological point of entry

1:17:02

the morphological one we can work out

1:17:04

the structure of the unambiguous

1:17:06

statements that can only belong to

1:17:08

heraclitus because they are all as

1:17:10

similar to each other as family members

1:17:13

this is not to claim that we could

1:17:14

differentiate the imitations or the

1:17:16

reinterpretations from the genuine

1:17:18

heraclitus sayings with certainty in

1:17:20

each individual case even family

1:17:23

resemblance of course

1:17:25

has no original image against which

1:17:27

similarities can be measured viken

1:17:29

Stein's metaphor made this suitable for

1:17:31

the critique of nominalistic

1:17:33

prejudices thus the fact that it

1:17:35

furnishes no strict criteria in no way

1:17:38

speaks against the guiding idea of a

1:17:39

morphological

1:17:41

investigation moreover even where

1:17:44

imitations are present the thought

1:17:46

structure that is being imitated may not

1:17:48

be entirely unrecognizable and if this

1:17:51

is so the imitation presents some

1:17:53

guidance for example following the path

1:17:57

of morphologically guided reduction I

1:17:59

have reclaimed a fragment that was here

1:18:01

to for missing from the collections even

1:18:04

though in the most reliable place the

1:18:05

list of hippitus citations it is

1:18:07

transmitted to us as expressly herac

1:18:10

lion 17 however as it occurs in hippitus

1:18:14

it is so alienating to what is Christian

1:18:17

trinitarian that one takes it to be a

1:18:19

sheer

1:18:21

fabrication it can be reconstructed in a

1:18:23

morphological way

1:18:25

the outcome reads as follows the father

1:18:27

is the son of himself this wants to read

1:18:31

when the father produces a son he turns

1:18:34

himself into a father this seems to me

1:18:37

to be a genuinely herac liten statement

1:18:39

in the tur style of a paradox which is

1:18:42

why the later style critics said that he

1:18:43

had been a melancholic and that he only

1:18:45

ever uttered his statements in halves

1:18:48

this is nevertheless a directive for us

1:18:50

a reasonable guiding principle wherever

1:18:53

something appears chur

1:18:55

concentrated paradoxical there we have

1:18:58

heraclitus it fits in with this guiding

1:19:01

principle that one of the artistic modes

1:19:03

that plays a predominating role in

1:19:05

heraclitus corresponds nicely to such a

1:19:07

paradoxical style the pun a pun is based

1:19:11

on the sudden shift from one already

1:19:13

accomplished orientation of meaning and

1:19:15

understanding into a completely

1:19:17

different one there is a famous example

1:19:20

of this in heraclitus the name of the

1:19:22

bow is life its deed is death a

1:19:26

this depends on the consonance of the

1:19:27

word bios for both life and B within the

1:19:31

word there is already a Unity of

1:19:33

opposites this is surely the reason why

1:19:36

heraclitus especially loves puns they

1:19:39

permit him to capture his own truth in

1:19:41

the wording and to stir up as it were

1:19:43

are flattened out thoughtless

1:19:45

familiarity with language another

1:19:48

example that plays with words in this

1:19:50

way in order to reinforce the truth that

1:19:52

is veiled within them is fragment 100

1:19:54

and 14 where the consonance between

1:19:57

common sunin and with reason Sun oi

1:20:01

constitutes the pun 19 and something is

1:20:04

expressed in this pun not only is reason

1:20:07

common to all things but everything that

1:20:09

is common is based on reason anything

1:20:12

else may be unknowable for us based on

1:20:15

the citations in Aristotle 20 and the

1:20:18

plays on AOS by P anas and Eric simus in

1:20:21

the Symposium and based on the

1:20:22

background of the hesticles works and

1:20:25

days 20 FF I suspect that heraclitus

1:20:29

plays with AOS and ays in a similar way

1:20:31

in view of the loving Strife to which it

1:20:34

seems to me Aristotle is alluding

1:20:38

21 the fact that other artistic modes

1:20:41

point in the same direction modes such

1:20:43

as the paradoxical sentence the parable

1:20:46

the parallelism and the asymmetrical

1:20:49

analogy has been shown by many scholars

1:20:51

and by Herman Frankle in particular it

1:20:54

it is therefore valid to unlock the

1:20:56

paradoxical insights of heraclitus by

1:20:58

proceeding from the

1:21:00

morphological I shall begin with a

1:21:02

well-known statement that gives me the

1:21:04

opportunity to display the awkwardness

1:21:06

of the preconceptions implicit in the

1:21:08

way these passages are cited the

1:21:10

statement is handed down to us in plot

1:21:12

enus among others and this fact is in

1:21:16

turn a value for our

1:21:18

interpretation this platonist from the

1:21:21

time of the Caesars is one for whom New

1:21:23

Dimensions of interiority had already

1:21:25

opened up thus it is self-evident for us

1:21:28

that his understanding of the herac

1:21:30

litan book which he still knew struck

1:21:32

out in directions altogether different

1:21:34

from those we can assume for heraclitus

1:21:37

himself and yet again altogether

1:21:39

different from those of textbooks rooted

1:21:41

ultimately in the Aristotelian

1:21:43

theophrasti and tradition and their

1:21:45

readers the statement I am referring to

1:21:48

is one of the simplest statements that

1:21:50

one can think of the way up and down is

1:21:52

one and the same or the way there and

1:21:55

back is one and the same 22 in Antiquity

1:21:59

people frequently already understood

1:22:01

this from the perspective of

1:22:02

Aristotelian influenced cosmology and

1:22:05

they saw in it a depiction of the cycle

1:22:07

of the elements as it describes the

1:22:09

great rotation of elements from below to

1:22:11

above from above to below from the

1:22:14

Heavenly Fire to water and to air if not

1:22:16

the reverse and from there to Earth 23

1:22:20

yet neither in plotus nor elsewhere does

1:22:23

the text point in any way to this

1:22:25

context only later reappropriations

1:22:28

interpret it

1:22:29

cosmologically in plot enus it is his

1:22:32

fundamental predisposition toward

1:22:34

Transcendence the predisposition of the

1:22:36

early Christian centuries that

1:22:39

thoroughly determines the Horizon of the

1:22:40

author's understanding this is why he

1:22:44

understands the statement to be about

1:22:45

the soul that descends into the body and

1:22:47

about its return it's Ascent toward the

1:22:49

one and the true for plot enus this is

1:22:53

the way up and the way down that

1:22:54

heraclitus is supposed to have intended

1:22:57

certainly no one today would follow this

1:22:59

interpretation of heraclitus

1:23:02

proposition we become completely sure of

1:23:05

this when we read in plot enus how he

1:23:07

Praises heraclitus in particular because

1:23:10

heraclitus has taught us to search for

1:23:12

our souls our true selves nevertheless

1:23:16

for us the heraclitus statements to

1:23:18

which plot enus assigns this orientation

1:23:20

still have something seductive about

1:23:22

them here we read for example I have

1:23:26

sought myself

1:23:27

24 for ancient biographical science this

1:23:31

meant that he had no teacher but found

1:23:33

out everything for himself instead for

1:23:36

us this resonates like an early

1:23:38

intimation of Christian interiority as

1:23:41

it is to be heard for the first time in

1:23:42

Socratic questioning especially when we

1:23:45

read the limits of the Soul cannot be

1:23:47

surveyed however broadly one strides so

1:23:50

deeply lies its ground

1:23:52

25 again this this resonates with

1:23:55

Socrates and Plato those anatural lit

1:23:58

Christiana who in the very heart of the

1:24:00

Salan Shrine recognized what is truly

1:24:03

beautiful and generally pointed the way

1:24:05

the Christian future 26 and yet here two

1:24:10

we should be mistrustful of the

1:24:11

overtones of our own account of the soul

1:24:14

in any case whatever our statement the

1:24:17

way up and the way down is one and the

1:24:19

same maybe about it is thus surely more

1:24:22

correct to recognize in it an utterly

1:24:24

straightforward

1:24:25

observation it is the same path that

1:24:27

seems so difficult in the ascent and so

1:24:29

easy in The Descent or the same path

1:24:33

that seems so long on the way there

1:24:34

seems so short on the return trip I

1:24:37

think it is a straightforward example of

1:24:39

how one and the same thing can look

1:24:41

quite different even opposed an entire

1:24:44

genre of statements has been handed down

1:24:46

under the name of heraclitus that

1:24:48

announce in a similar way how something

1:24:50

can change its aspect completely

1:24:53

evidently the structure of the ideas

1:24:55

corresponds to the formal structure of

1:24:57

such

1:24:58

statements what heraclitus wants to say

1:25:00

is clear that contrary to our own

1:25:03

experience of distinguishing one thing

1:25:05

from another of opposing one to the

1:25:07

other we should realize that whatever

1:25:09

might present itself so differently also

1:25:12

Harbors a kind of identity within the

1:25:14

opposition itself heraclitus sees

1:25:17

through the apparentness of the

1:25:19

different and the opposite and

1:25:20

everywhere discovers the one this need

1:25:23

not preclude the the idea that still

1:25:25

other morally emphatic applications are

1:25:28

meant to resonate in the statement about

1:25:30

the path applications that were

1:25:32

precisely what was really intended his

1:25:35

logos however is the one he discerns

1:25:39

this in such diverse phenomena as the

1:25:41

flow of things the abrupt change from

1:25:43

fire into water and from sleep to waking

1:25:46

and he discovers the same riddle in

1:25:48

everything in the flame that consumes

1:25:49

itself and is extinguished in the motion

1:25:52

that begins by itself and ceases by

1:25:54

itself everywhere he sees The Wonder of

1:25:57

Life the riddle of being conscious being

1:26:00

awake and the Mystery of death this will

1:26:03

show itself to be one of the points at

1:26:05

which Plato positively appropriates the

1:26:08

heritage of heraclitean thinking in any

1:26:11

case plotinus use of citations teaches

1:26:14

us how little obligation we have to

1:26:16

apply the statement

1:26:17

cosmologically on the contrary our right

1:26:20

to a simple understanding of the

1:26:22

statement surely can be justified by

1:26:24

looking to heraclitus himself and

1:26:26

especially the beginning of his text 27

1:26:29

by a fortunate accident it has been

1:26:31

handed down to us in good shape

1:26:34

Aristotle referring to the first

1:26:36

statement of heraclitus text remarks

1:26:39

that what we have before us is a

1:26:41

punctuation problem this logos that

1:26:43

always is about which human beings

1:26:46

always remain without understanding 28

1:26:48

Aristotle asks himself where the always

1:26:51

belongs even modern philologists are

1:26:53

divided about about this is it the logos

1:26:56

that always is or does the logos always

1:26:59

remain without understanding presumably

1:27:02

this is an actual case of what garans

1:27:05

call APO coinu by itself an utterly

1:27:08

pedantic excuse of the school Master

1:27:10

this category comes to life in listening

1:27:12

to such a statement we must recall that

1:27:15

Aristotle was first and foremost a

1:27:18

reader albeit of course one who read

1:27:22

aloud this text however was surely

1:27:25

intended to be a lecture the speaker

1:27:28

could thus articulate it in such a way

1:27:30

that the word always could shed light on

1:27:32

both sides and color the surrounding

1:27:34

words 29 yet at this point I am going

1:27:38

into this much discussed statement a

1:27:41

statement that outdo itself in paradoxes

1:27:44

in order to emphasize one Paradox that

1:27:46

seems to me not to have been properly

1:27:48

considered until now and which

1:27:50

supposedly presents a kind of guideline

1:27:52

for a collective interpretation

1:27:54

heraclitus describes his intentions here

1:27:57

in the following way kof is in diary and

1:27:59

hasten Kai phrase and hoko's asii this

1:28:03

sounds highly conventional like an

1:28:05

declaration in the style of a

1:28:06

comprehensive history heraclitus

1:28:09

promises to explain everything like it

1:28:11

really is but what does this explanation

1:28:14

really look like the reader of the book

1:28:17

sees it The Listener to the logos hears

1:28:20

it the heraclitean message is not

1:28:23

differentiation exactly but perceiving

1:28:25

the one in everything that is

1:28:28

differentiated what others take to be

1:28:30

different as Hees takes day and night is

1:28:33

in fact and in truth one and the same

1:28:36

the heraclitean doctrine is constantly

1:28:38

formulated in this way H to safon 50 I

1:28:42

consider this to be the authentic and

1:28:44

original principle that heraclitus

1:28:46

appears to be repeating many times in

1:28:48

his book The principle can extend in

1:28:50

different directions according to the

1:28:52

formulation and to ofon it does and does

1:28:55

not want to be called by the name of

1:28:57

Zeus fragment 32 or this is Insight gome

1:29:02

fragment

1:29:03

41 our formulation the wise is one is

1:29:07

also hiding somehow in fragment 50 31

1:29:11

what appears here as the wise is an

1:29:13

extremely polyphonic neuter the Greeks

1:29:16

possession of the neuter constitutes one

1:29:18

of their ingenious advantages for

1:29:21

abstraction in thinking Reinhardt and

1:29:24

and Snell have taught us to see this we

1:29:26

are acquainted with a similar use of the

1:29:28

neuter from German poetry primarily

1:29:31

since Gera and hold erlin who use dos

1:29:34

Godlike the Divine or dos R end that

1:29:37

which saves or redeems in their poems

1:29:41

when things like this are encountered in

1:29:42

a poem they are not to be understood as

1:29:45

definite entities 32 rather a presence

1:29:49

of being emanates from such a neuter a

1:29:51

presence that fills the entire space dos

1:29:54

unck The Uncanny like dos red end dos

1:29:58

Godlike or dosage the holy or whatever

1:30:02

it is is the fullest presence without

1:30:05

the idea that a determinate entity would

1:30:07

be named by it so two dos wise that

1:30:12

which is wise is not one kind of thing

1:30:14

among many others it is separated from

1:30:16

everything Panton goris Manan fragment

1:30:20

108 as opposed to the appearance of

1:30:23

changing difference

1:30:24

it is that which really is this is how

1:30:27

heraclitus evidently intended his logos

1:30:30

a truth that speaks from out of

1:30:31

everything and yet a truth that no one

1:30:33

wishes to acknowledge as the truth to me

1:30:37

in any case the hermeneutic task in

1:30:40

understanding this introductory

1:30:41

statement seems to be not to interpret

1:30:43

it in advance by approaching it from out

1:30:45

of a later Doctrine a declaration

1:30:48

instead is supposed to awaken the

1:30:50

expectation of and base itself on the

1:30:52

style of historic yet this declaration

1:30:55

constantly disrupts this expectation in

1:30:57

the most highly paradoxical Way 33 the

1:31:00

proem after all does not declare that

1:31:03

the author has a doctrine that is better

1:31:05

than the doctrines of others heraclitus

1:31:08

is far more ambitious it is supposed to

1:31:11

be better than all of the points of view

1:31:13

that other human beings in general have

1:31:17

heraclitus is as radical as parids is

1:31:20

when the goddess parids introduces

1:31:22

speaks of the opinions of Mortals

1:31:24

fragments 13 and 6 the fact that this is

1:31:28

not a reference to parmen colleagues

1:31:30

should finally be accepted unfortunately

1:31:33

it is not so rigorously observed that

1:31:35

these viewpoints do of The Mortals

1:31:38

always appear in the plural and not at

1:31:40

all in the platonic singular 34 I

1:31:43

maintain that the prom tells us nothing

1:31:45

of the content of the doctrine

1:31:48

nevertheless right at its beginning

1:31:50

there is a genuine herac lien simile

1:31:52

that presents a first hint of what

1:31:54

heraclitus wants to say on the whole

1:31:57

here too the theme is still the

1:31:59

opposition between the one knower and

1:32:01

the many who do not know what human

1:32:03

beings do while awake remains concealed

1:32:06

from them just as they forget what they

1:32:08

do while asleep

1:32:09

35 evidently this means that they learn

1:32:13

nothing from the wealth of their

1:32:15

experiences 36 this is what

1:32:17

distinguishes our activities in sleep

1:32:20

when we are awake we forget them from

1:32:23

the dream experiences that we have

1:32:25

undergone we take nothing over into our

1:32:27

lived reality the activities in dreams

1:32:30

are

1:32:31

inconsequential awakened to the

1:32:33

wakefulness of the day neither are we

1:32:35

able to continue playing the game of the

1:32:37

dream nor does it interpolate itself

1:32:39

into our

1:32:40

experience this is what the introductory

1:32:43

statement wants to tell us therefore it

1:32:46

is not a question of the extent to which

1:32:48

in ancient life dreams would have been

1:32:50

understood in terms of their augury

1:32:53

heraclitus looks with cold and Clear

1:32:55

Eyes at the fact that dreaming is

1:32:56

precisely not being awake the idea that

1:32:59

human beings undergo experiences without

1:33:02

becoming wise means that they live like

1:33:04

dreamers their experiences have no

1:33:07

consequences and so it literally says

1:33:10

ayro and eoas and pyomo they are the

1:33:13

same as the inexperienced despite all of

1:33:16

their

1:33:17

experience in this way the beginning of

1:33:19

the book provides a guideline not just

1:33:22

for grasping the compression of the

1:33:23

herac lighten style but also for seeking

1:33:26

that which is one the wise behind the

1:33:29

most ordinary

1:33:30

experience the metaphor in this vehement

1:33:33

introductory statement is rather

1:33:35

suspenseful the incomprehension that

1:33:37

human beings have regarding the truth is

1:33:39

not to be posited simply as an immutable

1:33:42

Fact one can awaken someone from sleep

1:33:46

the emphatic impact of the first

1:33:47

statement depends upon this but it is

1:33:50

more than this it is at the same time an

1:33:54

assertion that turns back upon itself so

1:33:57

to speak what announces itself here as

1:34:00

the doctrine of heraclitus is a true

1:34:02

Paradox this Doctrine travels the path

1:34:05

toward insight and at the same time

1:34:08

teaches us about the gulf that stands

1:34:10

between the one truth and our inability

1:34:12

to learn due to our entanglement in the

1:34:14

manifold of human Illusions and dreams

1:34:17

the simile of waking and sleeping is not

1:34:19

just an emphatic appeal it belongs at

1:34:22

the same time to the content of

1:34:23

heraclitus Doctrine we thus encounter it

1:34:26

repeatedly even if perhaps not always in

1:34:29

heraclitean wording as when the word

1:34:32

Cosmos is used for world for heraclitus

1:34:36

the dream is a symbol for General

1:34:38

incomprehension a case in point is a

1:34:40

statement like for those who are awake

1:34:43

there is one and only one common World

1:34:45

while those who sleep each turn away

1:34:47

into their own

1:34:48

37 in this sense because of their

1:34:51

dreaming fragment 7 calls the one who is

1:34:54

asleep or GES worker builder of a world

1:34:58

all his own 38 his gaze is always turned

1:35:02

toward the people who in waking behave

1:35:05

like ones who are asleep fragment 73

1:35:08

speaks to this directly one should not

1:35:11

act and speak like those who are asleep

1:35:14

39 admittedly this formulation is so

1:35:17

banal that we might well have to assume

1:35:19

along with Kirk 40 that here Marcus

1:35:22

orelus is simply articulating the moral

1:35:24

gist of the concluding sentence of

1:35:26

fragment 1 we repeatedly encounter a

1:35:29

parallelism formed between waking and

1:35:31

sleeping on one hand and living and

1:35:34

being dead on the other the fact that

1:35:37

comparisons analogies and parallelisms

1:35:39

constituted an archaic mode of thinking

1:35:41

has been demonstrate primarily by Herman

1:35:44

Frankl 41 nevertheless the heraclitean

1:35:48

use of this mode of thinking has its own

1:35:50

character we can observe how heraclitus

1:35:53

does not simply construct such

1:35:55

parallelisms and comparisons rather he

1:35:58

loves to elaborate on them in a

1:35:59

paradoxical way so that they attain a

1:36:01

provocative SLP parenetic

1:36:03

sharpness thus we do not read in

1:36:06

fragment 21 as we might expect a

1:36:10

correspondence between sleep and the

1:36:11

apparitions of dreams on the one hand

1:36:14

and being awake in the waking world life

1:36:17

on the other instead surprisingly and

1:36:21

provocatively it reads death not life is

1:36:24

what we see awake what we see as slum

1:36:26

bearers sleep

1:36:28

42 the subtlety of this surprising

1:36:31

parallel lies in the fact that the

1:36:33

concluding term reads hypnose and not

1:36:34

ennion sleep and not dream the one who

1:36:38

is sleeping thereby constru the overall

1:36:40

condition of sleep encountered in the

1:36:42

apparitions of dreaming as that which he

1:36:45

sees in this way the Precision of this

1:36:48

finely rought statement clearly emerges

1:36:51

the two standard tropes are formed by

1:36:53

death and sleep the correspondence of

1:36:56

which speaks for itself what is

1:36:58

provocative about the comparison lies in

1:37:00

the fact that it begins

1:37:02

surprisingly in the first Clause life

1:37:05

would fit the progress of the statement

1:37:07

and there it reads death thus as a whole

1:37:11

what is seen in being awake along with

1:37:13

its apparent wakefulness is itself

1:37:16

ascribed not to being alive but rather

1:37:18

to being dead

1:37:20

43 the family resemblances among Hera

1:37:23

Clayton statements requires a very

1:37:25

careful rhythmic analysis of their

1:37:27

tradition in the meantime I find very

1:37:30

fine observations in Charles Khan's

1:37:33

commentary in that I am looking in the

1:37:35

same direction sometimes I would like to

1:37:37

go even further and through emendation

1:37:40

and condensation reproduce the original

1:37:43

herac lighten statement from statements

1:37:45

that are not quite so well forged in

1:37:48

precisely the most well forged of

1:37:50

heraclitus statements I think I

1:37:51

recognize a true family resem Lance thus

1:37:55

with regard to K's analysis of the

1:37:57

phonic structure of fragment

1:37:59

2544 I would like to pose the question

1:38:02

of whether at the end lony they receive

1:38:06

is not

1:38:07

Superfluous the word is perhaps due to

1:38:10

the ancient technique of citing and

1:38:11

explicating

1:38:13

simultaneously the statement could

1:38:15

simply have read maroy mezan mezon MOA

1:38:19

or MAA moas the clear word play speaks

1:38:23

for itself self and demands

1:38:25

consideration conversely we feel sure of

1:38:28

having the correct wording when a

1:38:29

statement displays clear standard tropes

1:38:32

as does fragment 21 in the

1:38:34

correspondence between then atos and

1:38:35

hypnos death and sleep fragment 245 also

1:38:40

exhibits such tropes with genoi and

1:38:43

genes taii in this last case I asked

1:38:46

myself whether the connection of the

1:38:47

standard tropes in such a long statement

1:38:49

would not be more effective if we were

1:38:51

to go still further and bring Mars T

1:38:53

ebine face to face with Mars Jean's tie

1:38:56

it is certainly clear that ethal AI

1:38:58

should not be separated completely from

1:39:00

its object zoen indeed this is

1:39:04

reinforced by the

1:39:05

teai but why should heraclitus have

1:39:08

followed the double turning gravitation

1:39:10

of words only in his introductory

1:39:12

statement and not have exploited their B

1:39:14

veence elsewhere as well here just as

1:39:17

always does in fragment one eosi would

1:39:20

double itself in hearing it genom noo e

1:39:24

marus te ebine kaius catalu marus jeans

1:39:27

taii I think I recognize this as a

1:39:30

stylistic element in which ebine and

1:39:32

jeans Tai confront each other 46 in the

1:39:36

same way the fragment that I have

1:39:37

reconstructed perer wiow heu seems

1:39:41

convincing to me and to a few others in

1:39:45

fragment 21 dream and sleep stand for

1:39:48

the delusion that consists in the fact

1:39:50

that we are not in a position to

1:39:51

recognize one and the same in all the

1:39:54

various things that we encounter in

1:39:56

innumerable variations heraclitus never

1:39:59

tires of teaching the inseparability of

1:40:01

opposites that signifies their Unity the

1:40:04

above mentioned introductory statement

1:40:06

also belongs among these indeed when a

1:40:10

multiplicity is declared in it the words

1:40:12

and deeds as everyone encounters them we

1:40:14

must simultaneously keep in mind

1:40:16

precisely the one that alone is the true

1:40:19

the statement shows all Humanity falling

1:40:21

into the same error of taking what is

1:40:23

opposed as separate entities instead of

1:40:25

recognizing their true Unity this is the

1:40:28

Paradox that he wants to lay out or

1:40:30

unfold this one/ being and this is the

1:40:33

logos to which it is proper to listen he

1:40:36

does not just mean what everyone knows

1:40:38

the one after another the necessary

1:40:41

dissolution of one thing by another like

1:40:43

day and night summer and winter Youth

1:40:46

and old age but rather above and beyond

1:40:49

this he means the unkown another that

1:40:51

Plato emphasizes in the passage from the

1:40:53

sophist with which we began evidently

1:40:57

the tension of these ionian Muses

1:40:59

consists in the fact that it is the same

1:41:00

thing that holds itself together in its

1:41:02

separation from itself fragment 51 like

1:41:06

the mixed drink that would separate if

1:41:08

one did not Stir It fragment

1:41:11

125 or like fragment 10 with its sunen

1:41:14

SL Dien consonant SL dissonant or

1:41:17

fragment eight with its antic sound/

1:41:20

simeron striving against slh helping

1:41:22

with

1:41:24

in Aristotle it becomes completely clear

1:41:26

how this is to be understood the high

1:41:29

and the low note must both be there if

1:41:30

there is to be Harmony 47 the stepping

1:41:34

apart into opposites therefore is not

1:41:37

the result of a process of AC crisis as

1:41:40

Aristotle maintains with regard to

1:41:42

anaximander vs12 a16 and as perhaps is

1:41:46

actually the case behind the profound

1:41:48

doctrine of opposites that parmen

1:41:50

goddess unveils to him nowhere in fact

1:41:54

does Aristotle have a speculative

1:41:56

understanding of heraclitus

1:41:57

contradictory

1:41:59

assertions 48 in a passage in the

1:42:01

physics A4 187 at 20 FF it becomes

1:42:07

immediately apparent through a similar

1:42:09

differentiation between periodically and

1:42:11

uniquely in fact that aside from

1:42:14

anaximander he mentions only edals and

1:42:17

an aoras as being among those who adopt

1:42:20

the one and the many at the same time

1:42:22

here AC crisis is spoken of but

1:42:25

apparently without heraclitus being

1:42:27

mentioned along with it although that

1:42:29

could have been expected given

1:42:30

Aristotle's Reliance on the sophist

1:42:33

passage at

1:42:34

242b likewise heraclitus is not named in

1:42:38

the metaphysics A8 989 of13 when

1:42:42

Aristotle substitutes the mediator

1:42:44

between Fire and Air which he speaks of

1:42:46

in the physics 187 of 14 with what

1:42:50

mediates between air and water at the

1:42:53

this point instead of classifying

1:42:55

heraclitus doctrine of fire as a case of

1:42:57

a crisis and fitting it into the

1:42:59

principle of his own doctrine of

1:43:01

elements Aristotle overlooks him in

1:43:04

Aristotle's eyes apparently this was not

1:43:07

reconcilable with the herac liten text

1:43:11

so in any case we must judge whether to

1:43:14

take the platonic idea of cashing in on

1:43:16

the herac Lan ionian Muses as opposed to

1:43:19

the Sicilian Muses of idals at face

1:43:21

value there is

1:43:23

however a series of undoubtedly herac

1:43:26

lighten statements that support this the

1:43:28

image of the river the Harmony in the

1:43:30

connection between bow and liar Harmony

1:43:33

as such The Barley drink in all of these

1:43:37

cases the discussion is no longer of a

1:43:39

Unity based on sheer temporal succession

1:43:41

or on the sheer suddenness of

1:43:43

transition in any event if what we had

1:43:46

in mind were the suddenness of

1:43:48

transition we could subsume these

1:43:50

examples under a rubric that excludes

1:43:52

the simult it of the speculative Unity

1:43:54

of temporal

1:43:55

succession how do the stronger

1:43:58

conceptual assertions look now fragment

1:44:01

1049 certainly leads in the direction of

1:44:03

a prior separation and yet since the

1:44:06

platonic syaman diap hero Menon crops up

1:44:10

in the list it also clearly intends

1:44:13

simultaneity this is precisely why we

1:44:15

can only understand the olaola as The

1:44:18

Logical inseparability of the whole and

1:44:20

parts and indeed this is is just how it

1:44:23

is with the consonant and dissonance

1:44:25

that are secured through the analogy of

1:44:27

Harmony cin and/ Dien this once again

1:44:31

establishes the meaning of the one from

1:44:33

everything in the sense in which Plato

1:44:35

speaks of it if we examine the

1:44:38

perspectus for the citation list in

1:44:40

hippius fragment 5150 then for some of

1:44:43

them presumably we can vacillate as to

1:44:46

whether they illustrate genuine

1:44:48

speculative Unity nevertheless my

1:44:51

aforementioned analysis of of the

1:44:53

fatherson Paradox has fortified the

1:44:55

expressive value of the citation list

1:44:58

and thus generally speaking wherever

1:45:01

hpus expressly brings forward genuine

1:45:03

opposites as in fragment

1:45:06

6751 we must take the one in its

1:45:08

platonic sense in the case of day and

1:45:11

night the Hesed pmic in fragment 57

1:45:14

confirms this likewise death then

1:45:19

and its opposition to life is assured by

1:45:21

fragment 76

1:45:23

which goes back to fragment

1:45:25

62 52 other assertions however seem to

1:45:29

express only change as such and not the

1:45:32

speculative Unity that lies within

1:45:34

change this is perhaps valid for the

1:45:36

concluding passage of fragment 67 53

1:45:40

where the various aspects of the god or

1:45:42

of fire are realized through the ad

1:45:44

mixture of various kinds of incense

1:45:47

nevertheless at this point the god

1:45:49

stands for the one as well fragment 88

1:45:53

54 the reading of which is rather

1:45:55

uncertain no doubt lays the emphasis on

1:45:57

change on a succession that is

1:45:59

nevertheless described as an Abrupt

1:46:01

shift metap zand just so in heraclitus

1:46:06

eyes every change implies a

1:46:08

simultaneity to me this seems to be

1:46:10

valid for the cosmology of fragment 31

1:46:14

which we will discuss later this

1:46:16

stepping apart into opposites therefore

1:46:19

generally provides evidence of the

1:46:21

unitary essence of things and their true

1:46:23

being opposites do not exist without one

1:46:26

another whether it is the case that they

1:46:28

necessarily succeed one another or

1:46:30

whether they harmonize directly and form

1:46:32

the unity of a melodic arrangement in

1:46:35

any case we must come to the Insight

1:46:37

that the other is always already there

1:46:40

with it the best indication of this is

1:46:43

precisely that whatever is opposed

1:46:45

bursts forth suddenly and

1:46:47

immediately all at once that which is

1:46:49

changes its appearance utterly and its

1:46:52

opposite emerges this proves that it was

1:46:55

already there

1:46:56

beforehand this is why I think that

1:46:59

fundamentally heraclitus wants to

1:47:01

maintain the same thing for everything

1:47:03

the being one of what is different and

1:47:05

this is why he refers to the one as

1:47:07

being separated from everything he

1:47:10

clearly chooses to see those opposites

1:47:12

that he names explicitly from the point

1:47:14

of view that though they are apparently

1:47:16

excluded from one another altogether

1:47:18

they nevertheless allow themselves to be

1:47:20

recognized as one and the same thing

1:47:23

among these opposites that fragment 67

1:47:26

speaks of the opposition between lack

1:47:28

and satiety appears to be particularly

1:47:31

evident we all know this experience

1:47:34

irrespective of any cosmological

1:47:36

applications or

1:47:37

explanations what is enticing about food

1:47:40

presupposes hunger or perhaps appetite

1:47:42

and disappears with surprising

1:47:44

suddenness when we are sad the

1:47:47

opposition between War and Peace is just

1:47:49

as

1:47:50

Illuminating the one is the complete

1:47:52

non-being of the other other the

1:47:54

outbreak of war is a total

1:47:55

transformation of everything waking and

1:47:58

sleep also belong in this list indeed

1:48:02

what is so astounding about the

1:48:03

opposition between waking and sleep is

1:48:05

also the suddenness with which one

1:48:07

entire condition becomes the other

1:48:10

whoever Falls or sinks into sleep seems

1:48:12

to be a completely different person and

1:48:14

yet is still the same person as the one

1:48:16

who appears in

1:48:17

wakefulness for that matter all of these

1:48:20

pairs of opposites could simply be

1:48:22

understood according to the pattern of

1:48:23

waking and sleeping fragment

1:48:26

88 now admittedly among the oppositions

1:48:30

in fragment 88 we also come across

1:48:32

living and dead and further on young and

1:48:36

old what is the reciprocity of abrupt

1:48:38

change supposed to signify here perhaps

1:48:42

in some measure young and old can be

1:48:44

explained as a change in perspectives in

1:48:46

so far as direct Human Experience

1:48:48

confirms for us that old and young are

1:48:50

quite relative to each other a person

1:48:53

can suddenly be young and this does not

1:48:56

just mean that he feels

1:48:57

rejuvenated he really is Young likewise

1:49:01

one can all of a sudden look old in this

1:49:04

way the platonic formulation that the

1:49:07

same thing is both the one and the other

1:49:09

at the same time would hold perfectly

1:49:11

true they are both within the entity

1:49:14

only its aspect changes moreover we also

1:49:18

come across the dialectical play of

1:49:21

young and old in a series of relations

1:49:23

in Plato's parids 141 AF 152 AF the

1:49:29

greatest difficulty for our

1:49:30

interpretation that occurs in these

1:49:32

testimonies is posed by the opposition

1:49:34

between life and death there is

1:49:37

certainly something significant about

1:49:38

the fact that this opposition does not

1:49:40

occur at this point in heraclitus as

1:49:42

something particular but rather as one

1:49:44

in a long list of similar pairs of

1:49:47

opposites this reminds us of the fact

1:49:49

that the role of death and the

1:49:50

corresponding understanding of death

1:49:52

within the Christian cultural Horizon to

1:49:54

which we belong is an extremely unusual

1:49:56

and extraordinary one the extraordinary

1:50:00

role of death in this tradition still

1:50:01

has an effect even today when religious

1:50:04

backgrounds are waning considerably in

1:50:06

the modern world and the Easter belief

1:50:08

that death will be overcome through

1:50:09

Resurrection conveys the general

1:50:11

consciousness of culture less and less

1:50:14

even if we no longer Embrace death in

1:50:16

all its irrevocability and inconceivable

1:50:18

Terror through Jesus and the entire

1:50:20

Christian message in light of the

1:50:21

Redemptive Act of vicarious suffering

1:50:23

that the crucifixion represents even if

1:50:26

that is we no longer embrace it as

1:50:28

Believers it still is not so easy to be

1:50:30

sufficiently conscious of the special

1:50:32

place that death has in our European

1:50:34

culture and its account of the soul and

1:50:36

this holds just as true when we look at

1:50:38

the heraclitus

1:50:40

testimonies we can look at this as a

1:50:42

classic example of what in the problem

1:50:44

context of hermeneutics I have called

1:50:47

historically effective Consciousness

1:50:49

working Jess likees B ofit say our own

1:50:52

precon ctions are so deeply entrenched

1:50:54

that they hinder us in our understanding

1:50:56

of other cultures and historical worlds

1:50:59

to achieve a better understanding we

1:51:01

must try to become conscious of Our Own

1:51:04

preconceptions in the case of heraclitus

1:51:07

this is rather difficult because the

1:51:09

influence of late Antiquity and early

1:51:11

Christianity on the heraclitus tradition

1:51:14

primarily from hippitus and Clement

1:51:16

directly obtrudes Upon Our Own

1:51:18

preconceptions and to this extent leads

1:51:21

us astray on the other hand we must

1:51:24

remain conscious of our own

1:51:26

preconceptions even as we must protect

1:51:28

ourselves from making premature

1:51:31

identifications of course greater

1:51:33

difficulties do arise where we still

1:51:35

have to deal with completely different

1:51:37

cultural Horizons and

1:51:38

traditions we have only to think of the

1:51:41

Distortion of the vant by the Canon

1:51:44

scapho human sensibilities everywhere

1:51:47

have ascribed an overarching

1:51:48

significance to the experience of death

1:51:51

this certainly holds holds true as well

1:51:54

for Greek popular religion for the image

1:51:57

of Hades for instance for the river of

1:52:00

forgetting that separates the living

1:52:01

from the dead as these images are

1:52:03

depicted in the homeric epics similarly

1:52:07

the Divine drama that escalus brought to

1:52:09

the stage in his reinterpretation of the

1:52:11

Prometheus myth shows that death is a

1:52:13

kind of living question for Humanity at

1:52:16

root all religions are answers to the

1:52:18

riddle of death whether the answer

1:52:20

ensues from a cult of death or an

1:52:22

oracular cult or from other forms of

1:52:25

belief in the soul or

1:52:26

immortality even the idea of Hades still

1:52:29

serves as an answer to the

1:52:30

incomprehensible riddle of death of

1:52:33

course some myths connected with the

1:52:35

names orus and uracy perhaps or with

1:52:39

alus or in a certain sense even with the

1:52:43

figure of Byer Copus appear to mitigate

1:52:45

the irrevocability of death but even

1:52:48

these myths recount precisely how this

1:52:50

overcoming of death miscar

1:52:53

certainly Greek popular religion with

1:52:56

its idea of Hades and the aisle of the

1:52:58

Blessed has in mind the enduring

1:53:00

presence of The Departed and even a

1:53:02

reunion with them through nikai 55 and

1:53:05

yet even today the breathtaking sorrow

1:53:07

of Greek burial painting still touches

1:53:09

Us in his fedo Plato himself allows the

1:53:13

child inside the man to speak a child

1:53:15

whose anxiety in the face of death can

1:53:18

never be completely

1:53:19

alleviated still in heraclitus something

1:53:23

else is at issue the sudden shift from

1:53:25

Death to life is associated with the

1:53:27

sudden shift from life to death we find

1:53:30

nothing of the kind in the doctrine of

1:53:32

Hades with the orphan and Pythagorean

1:53:35

doctrine of the transmigration of Souls

1:53:37

and The Reincarnation of The Souls of

1:53:39

the deceased into new previously

1:53:42

lifeless bodies we might well render a

1:53:44

kind of reciprocal relationship between

1:53:46

death and life understandable but in the

1:53:50

end of course this depends exclusively

1:53:53

on the question of whether the ones who

1:53:55

are newly incarnated in this way regain

1:53:57

the memory of their prior lives although

1:54:00

this may be promised to the initiates of

1:54:02

such a cult there was no real

1:54:04

counterpart in such religious movements

1:54:06

no more in the later Greek world than in

1:54:08

Homer to the overcoming of death in the

1:54:11

sense that we find in the Christian

1:54:12

doctrine of the death and resurrection

1:54:14

of Jesus Christ we must understand the

1:54:17

entire Greek Cult of death like we do

1:54:20

other religions as a kind of holding

1:54:22

fast to life the peculiarity of the

1:54:25

Christian religion consists in the fact

1:54:27

that through it in its faith in the

1:54:30

resurrection as the Salvation from Death

1:54:32

through the vicarious suffering of Jesus

1:54:34

the terror of death is not supposed to

1:54:36

be mitigated but rather completely

1:54:38

accepted Christ is my life and death my

1:54:41

gain to this extent the pre-christian

1:54:44

world and thus the whole of the Greek

1:54:46

world as well is separated from

1:54:49

Christianity by an insuperable boundary

1:54:51

which is

1:54:52

perhaps what Novis was describing in his

1:54:55

hymns to the night we also become

1:54:58

conscious of how different the Christian

1:55:00

religious experience of death is when we

1:55:02

read for instance the first proof for

1:55:05

the immortality of the soul that Plato

1:55:07

puts into the mouth of Socrates in the

1:55:09

FED 70D FF 56 it is difficult for the

1:55:13

modern reader to understand that in this

1:55:15

text we are generally supposed to be

1:55:17

able to infer the balance of death and

1:55:19

life of dying and returning from from

1:55:22

the universal cycle of Natural Life the

1:55:25

rhythm of natural life seems quite

1:55:28

simply incommensurable with an account

1:55:30

of the human soul Plato even points to

1:55:33

this in the fedo when CB's consents only

1:55:35

hesitantly to the change from Death To

1:55:37

Life Fain Tha

1:55:40

71e finally there is something

1:55:43

bewildering in this for us when it is

1:55:44

supposed to follow from this line of

1:55:46

reasoning in the fedo that The Souls of

1:55:48

the Dead not only continue to exist Ena

1:55:51

7 2 e but that as it says in the text

1:55:55

the good who have died will have a

1:55:57

better existence than the bad

1:55:59

72e this inference is so absurd that

1:56:02

modern philology has stricken this added

1:56:04

stipulation as being inauthentic even

1:56:07

though the text has been handed down to

1:56:09

us

1:56:10

coherently how indeed are we to

1:56:13

understand that this is supposed to

1:56:14

follow from the rhythm of natural life

1:56:17

at this point we are more likely to make

1:56:20

sense of the fact that a further proof

1:56:21

follows in the fedo by means of which

1:56:23

the periodicity of natural events is

1:56:25

appended to the famous Socratic argument

1:56:28

concerning

1:56:29

anamnesis but even here we ask ourselves

1:56:32

how this proof is supposed to be a

1:56:35

compliment to the first of course the

1:56:38

soul in the first argument is something

1:56:40

quite different from the soul that

1:56:41

remembers itself in any case we might

1:56:45

consider here the entire mediated

1:56:47

Horizon of the transmigration of the

1:56:49

Soul which resonates even further in

1:56:51

Plato especially in Socrates

1:56:54

conversation with the two

1:56:56

pythagoreans but it is decisively

1:56:58

important to make clear that this has

1:57:00

nothing to do with

1:57:01

heraclitus there can be no question of a

1:57:04

transmigration of the soul in heraclitus

1:57:07

whereas a Greek spiritual realm common

1:57:09

to both natural life and the thinking

1:57:11

being becomes recognizable in Plato on

1:57:14

the contrary heraclitus with his bold

1:57:17

oppositional peirs is aiming directly at

1:57:20

the Paradox of the sudden shift

1:57:22

heraclitus idea therefore is far more

1:57:26

radical here there is not as there

1:57:28

appears to be in Plato a determinate

1:57:31

entity the soul that conserves itself as

1:57:34

an unchangeable thing even in its self-

1:57:36

differentiated modes of appearance and

1:57:38

in its altered Abode within the body or

1:57:40

in Hades at this point it might be

1:57:43

helpful to recall a significant little

1:57:45

scene in the platonic fedo here 103 F an

1:57:50

unknown person a clue in fact upon which

1:57:53

an extraordinary emphasis is laid

1:57:55

interrupts the socratic line of

1:57:57

reasoning that has introduced the

1:57:58

exclusion of the Opposites of life and

1:58:00

death in order to prove the immortality

1:58:02

of the soul the anonymous person recalls

1:58:05

that precisely this transition from the

1:58:07

one to the other the transition of

1:58:09

opposites into each other had indeed

1:58:11

been asserted at an earlier point in the

1:58:13

dialogue namely

1:58:17

7df Socrates also uses this opportunity

1:58:20

to make it clear to his friend CB is

1:58:22

that when one thinks the Opposites as

1:58:24

such and has their Mutual exclusion in

1:58:26

mind in this case the thinking of

1:58:28

opposites has a different sense from

1:58:29

when one says regarding any Topic at all

1:58:32

a pragma the soul for instance that

1:58:35

something moves itself from one opposite

1:58:37

toward the other this in fact

1:58:41

presupposes the pure thought

1:58:43

oppositionality as such its being as an

1:58:46

idea it means that the Opposites become

1:58:49

differentiated from that in which they

1:58:51

appear in Aristotle this is later called

1:58:54

hypoy an idea that the early

1:58:57

oppositional thinking of the lonians

1:58:59

such as that of the pythagoreans was not

1:59:01

conceptually aware of at all later on in

1:59:05

the fbos 23d 26d Plato illustrates this

1:59:10

as a shortcoming of those who came

1:59:12

earlier by expressly introducing the

1:59:14

Third Kind that of the measured in

1:59:17

addition to that of the measure

1:59:19

remembering Plato can help us to get

1:59:21

some idea of heraclitus real question

1:59:24

neither the Aristotelian analysis of the

1:59:26

movess D betide of nature nor even the

1:59:29

ideas of the hero cult or the doctrines

1:59:31

of the Mysteries conveyed by Homer and

1:59:33

Hesed correspond to heraclitus true

1:59:36

intention for him it is a question of

1:59:39

the Paradox of Sudden Change and along

1:59:42

with it the being one of being doine

1:59:44

send asend what is life and what is

1:59:47

death what are the creation and the

1:59:49

extinction of life this is the Riddle

1:59:52

That heraclitus Ponders he seeks the one

1:59:55

in all oppositionality and in the one he

1:59:59

finds what is oppositional in fire the

2:00:01

flame in the logos the soul in the one

2:00:05

the true hentu safon Plato will depict

2:00:09

the great parids leading the bewildered

2:00:11

young Socrates in some bold games that

2:00:13

the one is in everything and that even

2:00:15

the ideas themselves are oppositional

2:00:18

they pass over into one another and they

2:00:20

are the one this is how Plato can

2:00:23

appropriate

2:00:24

heraclitus and so I have come to the

2:00:26

conclusion that we ought not to refer

2:00:28

here to particular ways of representing

2:00:31

things something else comes into play

2:00:33

with the identity thesis the suddenness

2:00:35

with which the appearance of things

2:00:37

changes this really brings the

2:00:39

opposition between life and death to the

2:00:42

four we must interpret the entire

2:00:44

Doctrine in precisely this way any

2:00:47

mitigation of oppositionality that of

2:00:49

death and life for instance would contra

2:00:52

redict the entire tenor of the doctrine

2:00:53

of opposites the idea is far more

2:00:57

radical no one determinate entity the

2:00:59

soul for example lies within everything

2:01:02

that lives as what is unchangeable

2:01:04

behind a

2:01:11

self-align that nevertheless manifests

2:01:14

itself in the sudden shift between death

2:01:16

and life even death is like an Abrupt

2:01:19

shift in the appearance of being thus we

2:01:22

should to try once again to follow the

2:01:24

program of the Prem and to recognize the

2:01:26

unobserved truth in familiar

2:01:28

experiences if fragment 62 talks about

2:01:31

the idea that the gods Al are death then

2:01:34

this could mean that their being first

2:01:35

emerges through our death their being

2:01:38

articulates itself as what it is in view

2:01:40

of our finality and surely not because

2:01:43

they behave as Spectators as think

2:01:45

suggests

2:01:47

57 correspondingly we could understand

2:01:50

that in living we die their death which

2:01:53

means that the Immortals do not emerge

2:01:56

for us as what they are as long as the

2:01:58

security and certainty of life keep us

2:02:01

Spellbound once again however the truth

2:02:04

would be that through their

2:02:06

changeability both perspectives prove

2:02:08

their nothingness and confirm the one

2:02:10

that which alone is the wise as the true

2:02:14

with this the identity of numerous

2:02:16

assertions about the changing aspect of

2:02:18

things comes to light the interpretation

2:02:21

of which is not

2:02:22

dispute thus we read for example the ass

2:02:26

prefers chaff to Gold fragment n or sea

2:02:31

water is drinkable for fish and

2:02:32

necessary for their life for human

2:02:35

beings it is unpalatable and deadly

2:02:37

fragment

2:02:38

61 or the most beautiful ape is ugly

2:02:42

compared to the race of human beings

2:02:44

fragment 82 or the wisest of human

2:02:48

beings looks like an ape in comparison

2:02:50

to a god fragment a 83 even statements

2:02:54

such as fragments 84A and 84b change

2:02:57

rests or always to be challenged and

2:02:59

oppressed by the same thing is tiresome

2:03:02

should be dissociated from all

2:03:03

unsatisfactory mythical applications

2:03:05

like the ones plot enus proposes they

2:03:08

deserve no Credence he himself expressly

2:03:12

says

2:03:15

am 58 these are all negative

2:03:18

correspondences to the identity of what

2:03:20

is different and they allow what is

2:03:22

identical to be recognized in difference

2:03:25

fragments 24 25 and 27 can be

2:03:29

interpreted similarly they hardly intend

2:03:32

any sort of special heraclitean Doctrine

2:03:34

about the dead and their prospective

2:03:36

Fates or even a mystery wisdom that

2:03:38

would be closed off to those who were

2:03:40

uninitiated but which heraclitus would

2:03:42

have shared with all his fellow

2:03:44

initiates rather here too is it is a

2:03:47

question of something lying out in the

2:03:49

open well known to all yet which no one

2:03:52

recognizes in its true

2:03:54

significance one example of something

2:03:56

familiar to everyone is the exaltation

2:03:59

of one who has fallen in war on the

2:04:01

field of Honor aratus fragment

2:04:04

24 he is like one suddenly

2:04:07

transformed everyone honors him everyone

2:04:10

sees him differently as exemplary as

2:04:14

transfigured this is heraclitus insight

2:04:17

and says absolutely nothing of any

2:04:19

participation in the hero cult at most

2:04:22

for him this would have been a cultic

2:04:25

derived example of the suddenness of

2:04:27

such an Abrupt change similarly there

2:04:30

can be no bogus mysterious Declarations

2:04:32

of unforeseen experiences of the

2:04:34

Hereafter lying hidden within fragment

2:04:37

27 rather he simply means by this that

2:04:41

people have such a different stature

2:04:43

after their deaths they are so elevated

2:04:46

that during one's lifetime one would not

2:04:48

have considered it possible 59 fragment

2:04:52

18 seems to express the same experience

2:04:54

from the perspective of the human world

2:04:57

when one does not hope neither will one

2:04:59

find the unhoped

2:05:01

460 it is thanks to hope that what takes

2:05:03

place presents itself in a completely

2:05:05

different way than we could expect

2:05:08

precisely because it was unforeseeable

2:05:10

and seemed

2:05:11

unreachable because there can be

2:05:13

surprise there may be fulfillment the

2:05:16

unhoped for comes only to the hopeful

2:05:19

that's such an interpretation up to the

2:05:21

change in perspectives affects the sense

2:05:24

of these herac lighten Expressions is

2:05:26

somewhat confirmed by at least fragment

2:05:29

53 this fragment of course speaks

2:05:32

expressly of war the father of all

2:05:35

things it proves some to be Gods others

2:05:38

human beings the impotence and the power

2:05:41

of the human being both emerge from this

2:05:44

for some the fact that they are cowardly

2:05:46

slaves emerges for others it is the fact

2:05:49

that they are truly free 61 again this

2:05:53

means that what is already lying within

2:05:55

each person simply emerges War the true

2:05:59

God does not just lie at the root of the

2:06:01

most extreme opposites rather it itself

2:06:04

gives rise to the change in

2:06:06

perspectives it is what is common to all

2:06:08

Discord the real logos behind what is

2:06:11

different within which things are

2:06:13

seemingly able to show themselves thus

2:06:16

fragment 80 says that war is in fact

2:06:20

what is common to all it is that from

2:06:22

which no one can withdraw and which

2:06:24

comes to all in equal measures 62 thus

2:06:28

in heraclitus we can read that dyke that

2:06:31

which is shared equally by all and arys

2:06:34

strife are one I prefer to read Kik and

2:06:38

Karin the commonality of justice and the

2:06:41

commonality of strife Encompass

2:06:43

everything what is common to all is in

2:06:46

truth one and the same the continuation

2:06:50

of the passage which

2:06:52

by the way deals placed here quite

2:06:54

correctly corroborates this 63 in this

2:06:58

way even the Immortals are a

2:07:00

particularization that does not exist

2:07:03

without Mortals fragment

2:07:05

62 evidently by Immortals heraclitus

2:07:09

does not mean the god of fragment 67 the

2:07:12

one in the multiplicity of its

2:07:14

appearances it looks more like

2:07:16

heraclitus anticipating Plato in an

2:07:19

example of bold Enlightenment thinking

2:07:21

puts the traditional world of the Gods

2:07:23

in a reciprocal relationship with the

2:07:25

world of Human

2:07:27

Experience just as War manifests the

2:07:29

power and impotence of human beings so

2:07:32

the power of the Gods emerges in the

2:07:33

failure of human beings and the

2:07:35

impotence of the Gods in their own

2:07:37

well-being it is almost even more

2:07:39

paradoxical that the immortality one by

2:07:42

the Fallen comes to them through death

2:07:44

from here on I would like to pose the

2:07:46

general question of whether not all of

2:07:48

the statements about Fame and

2:07:50

immortality like fragments 24 25 and

2:07:54

perhaps even 27 aim at the

2:07:56

transformation of the Dead it seems to

2:07:59

me that even fragment 29 is a

2:08:01

confirmation of this the noble choose

2:08:04

the one instead of all others this is

2:08:06

supposed to say of course that their

2:08:09

nobility is precisely constituted by the

2:08:12

fact that they actually follow in their

2:08:13

lives what according to heraclitus is

2:08:17

the one true thing some of these

2:08:19

interpretations May remain individ ually

2:08:21

questionable and a Resonance of

2:08:23

conventional religious ideas May

2:08:25

nevertheless play a role here however

2:08:27

the attempt that has been generally

2:08:29

accepted until now the attempt that is

2:08:32

to turn heraclitus because of his

2:08:35

mystical tone into a logical interpreter

2:08:38

of the wisdom of the Mysteries fails

2:08:40

because heraclitus demands the thinking

2:08:42

of the one and thereby wisdom not from

2:08:45

the initiated but from all human beings

2:08:48

but how is all of this compatible with

2:08:50

the fire cosmology

2:08:52

with this question we must not only keep

2:08:54

heraclitus style and the characteristics

2:08:56

Plato ascribes to him in mind but we

2:08:59

must also take into account the

2:09:01

polemical references made to the Milan

2:09:04

Doctrine certainly the claim to

2:09:06

paradoxical Enlightenment that the prom

2:09:08

puts forward was always related to the

2:09:10

behavior of human beings as a whole and

2:09:13

yet it looks as though the matter takes

2:09:16

a peculiar turn here even this new

2:09:19

science must consequently be

2:09:20

subordinated to a kind of

2:09:22

Enlightenment if we have thus far

2:09:24

followed the general drift of the Prem

2:09:26

and not presupposed anything that

2:09:28

everyday Human Experience is not

2:09:30

supposed to teach and in fact really

2:09:33

does not teach we must now ask ourselves

2:09:35

how heraclitus criticizes and

2:09:37

incorporates his own insights into the

2:09:39

whole of the new Enlightenment that the

2:09:41

milans but also the pythagoreans and men

2:09:44

like xenophanes were

2:09:46

propagating this does not signal an

2:09:48

abandonment of our basic principle for

2:09:51

it is not special knowledge that he

2:09:53

makes his theme but rather a new way of

2:09:55

seeing the world that is thinking the

2:09:58

logoi the meteorological process lies

2:10:00

out in the open for everyone to observe

2:10:04

everyone must also ask him or herself to

2:10:06

what extent the demythologizing of the

2:10:08

mythical picture of the world and the

2:10:10

reception of the cosmogonical schema Mak

2:10:12

such questions as the one about the

2:10:14

beginning inevitable and whether such

2:10:16

world forming processes cannot become

2:10:18

operative everywhere over and over again

2:10:21

later corpuscular Theory and atomism as

2:10:24

such thought this and thought that it

2:10:25

was basically understandable for every

2:10:27

thinking

2:10:28

Consciousness by this I mean that

2:10:31

heraclitus need not be seen at all as

2:10:33

propagating ionian cosmog and converting

2:10:36

it into a

2:10:37

cosmology yet he often makes overly

2:10:40

naive observations or applications of

2:10:42

this cosmology which can only mean that

2:10:45

references to cosmological things are of

2:10:47

secondary significance for him when

2:10:50

heraclitus refers to the cosmogonical

2:10:52

knowledge of his ionian neighbors his

2:10:54

intention does not seem to be to enter

2:10:56

into a competition with the great

2:10:58

investigators and discoverers from

2:11:00

mildness in general he is not claiming

2:11:03

to pull together new Knowledge from all

2:11:05

over but instead to bring to light the

2:11:08

truth that is concealed within all that

2:11:10

is self-evident or otherwise familiar

2:11:13

this Springs from the introductory

2:11:15

statement which plays directly with the

2:11:17

Paradox of a truth that is visible to

2:11:19

all and yet is misunderstood

2:11:21

everywhere this is why we will surely

2:11:24

not get very far with the interpretation

2:11:26

of his fire cosmology as a

2:11:28

cosmology the tortured attempts of the

2:11:30

later doxography to reconcile the

2:11:33

traditional heraclitus statements with a

2:11:35

cosmological schema or even with the

2:11:37

doctrine of the elements introduced by

2:11:39

idals and worked out by Plato and

2:11:41

Aristotle cannot be

2:11:44

encouraging this is a matter of a few

2:11:46

cosmological statements of the most

2:11:48

highly paradoxical form there is

2:11:51

moreover fragment

2:11:53

3064 which seems to be unique in the

2:11:55

whole of the early tradition of

2:11:57

cosmological thinking I do not think

2:12:00

that we can see in this a reference back

2:12:02

to ionian cosmog as has been recently

2:12:05

attempted as if the lonians would have

2:12:07

taught anything with their cosmog other

2:12:09

than precisely this that no God and no

2:12:12

human being established this world order

2:12:15

the first part of heraclitus statement

2:12:17

sounds rather like a positive reference

2:12:19

to the ionian doctrine of Fus

2:12:22

but something else in this proposition

2:12:23

sounds definitely herac lighten and that

2:12:26

is the emphasis on the idea that this

2:12:28

ordering is the same one for all things

2:12:30

or of all things if this part of the

2:12:33

text is genuine it reminds us of the

2:12:36

cautionary expression about the unreason

2:12:38

of human beings who like those who dream

2:12:41

construct their own individual worlds

2:12:44

see fragment

2:12:45

89 evidently what is essential in this

2:12:48

statement is obviously that the

2:12:50

expectation of an unchanging order of

2:12:52

the world should be attributed precisely

2:12:54

to the most Restless of all the elements

2:12:57

fire that which in anaxim mander's

2:13:00

vision of the world ordinarily maintains

2:13:03

the grand balance all by itself that is

2:13:06

maintains measure or perhaps produces

2:13:08

measure over and over again is imposed

2:13:11

upon that which is eternally living and

2:13:13

this means the ever Restless fire this

2:13:16

measure is depicted here as the self-

2:13:18

igniting and the self-extinguishing of

2:13:20

Fire curious reciprocation between what

2:13:23

has been measuredly ordered and what is

2:13:24

explosively sudden in this way it is

2:13:28

apparent that igniting and extinguishing

2:13:30

symbolize precisely that which is sudden

2:13:32

which is what inspired heraclitus vision

2:13:35

of the world and yet it is just as

2:13:37

doubtless that heraclitus also

2:13:39

presupposes the measured of all events

2:13:41

and only wants to reinterpret the same

2:13:44

thing to that extent it is not a

2:13:47

question of resolving the alleged

2:13:48

cosmology into simple symbolics

2:13:51

it is much more a question of

2:13:53

discovering in heraclitus a new response

2:13:55

to the experience of the being of the

2:13:57

whole this seems to me to be what the

2:13:59

riddle Post in fragment 30

2:14:02

suggests if we now turn to the further

2:14:04

texts of Clement we can hardly doubt

2:14:06

that the subsequent statement fragment

2:14:10

3165 connects immediately to our

2:14:12

statement Fire's

2:14:15

Transformations but then the phrase

2:14:17

pyrope carries the same unmistakably

2:14:20

paradoxical that made the first

2:14:22

statement appear to be a

2:14:23

paradox all things are the eruptions of

2:14:26

restless fire it thus has nothing to do

2:14:29

with the sorous ionian occurrence of

2:14:31

equilibrium in which all opposites pay

2:14:33

respective penalties and compensation

2:14:35

for their

2:14:36

predominance certainly the souls dis

2:14:39

points in the course of the sun could

2:14:40

also resonate with this in so far as all

2:14:43

change even the seasonal course of the

2:14:44

Sun and all reversal have something

2:14:46

sudden in them as the Greek term Trope

2:14:49

suggests but but still the connection

2:14:53

with the preceding statement remains

2:14:55

decisive therefore the rest of the

2:14:58

passage must be understood from there on

2:15:00

what happens in igniting and

2:15:02

extinguishing KH has remarked rightly

2:15:05

that in what follows the atmosphere the

2:15:08

air is missing 66 which means that what

2:15:12

was essential to ionian Cosmic wisdom

2:15:14

and clearly provided its direct

2:15:16

intuitive ground inths and an aamin was

2:15:19

left out it seems to me that he is also

2:15:22

correct when he points out that the most

2:15:24

extreme opposite to fire the sea is

2:15:27

referred to here as its other the

2:15:29

Earthly sea encounters the Heavenly Fire

2:15:32

as its most extreme

2:15:33

counterpart the ever living eoan

2:15:37

fragment 30 clearly belongs together

2:15:39

with inflaming and

2:15:41

extinguishing this must form the guiding

2:15:43

thread of the

2:15:44

interpretation even if we keep at a

2:15:47

distance all later distinctions among

2:15:48

fire light and heat distinctions that

2:15:51

perhaps already approach the difference

2:15:53

between the sensible and the spiritual

2:15:55

and overtake them it already becomes

2:15:57

clear from the statement above that fire

2:15:59

is not a visible element but on the

2:16:02

contrary that which constantly

2:16:04

transforms itself over and against all

2:16:07

constancy this is precisely its living

2:16:09

Essence that it nonetheless is the one

2:16:11

as are all living things fire also

2:16:14

flares up according to measure and is

2:16:16

extinguished according to measure just

2:16:18

as for example the living living rhythm

2:16:21

of waking and sleeping fire thus

2:16:24

presents the universal structure of all

2:16:26

being fragment 967 explains at best all

2:16:31

things are interchangeable with fire and

2:16:33

fire with all things which means fire as

2:16:35

opposed to gold and like in fragment 88

2:16:39

all things transform themselves like

2:16:41

fire they flare up like a flame and sink

2:16:44

together into

2:16:45

Extinction fire two transforms itself

2:16:49

when it is mingled with incense fragment

2:16:52

67 the emphasis is continually placed

2:16:55

upon the one that is the true and the

2:16:56

wise behind all supposed differences

2:16:59

whether these are now opposition and the

2:17:01

transformation of opposites into one

2:17:03

another or relativity and the sudden

2:17:05

change of

2:17:06

perspectives the changeable itself is

2:17:08

the one I think the cosmological

2:17:11

evidence of Transformations Trope

2:17:14

explains itself most easily this way

2:17:17

perhaps what this means here is not

2:17:19

turning points but ual

2:17:22

Transformations it is not a question of

2:17:24

whether fire is everything that

2:17:26

transforms but rather the reverse that

2:17:28

fire is fundamental to it all like the

2:17:31

sun Clement's insertions understand this

2:17:34

to be the logos and God 68 so to me the

2:17:38

insertion of Transformations with the ca

2:17:41

proton phalsa seems to be understandable

2:17:44

only if we do not see in it an initial

2:17:46

transformation of fire into water but

2:17:48

rather a simple expression of the

2:17:50

beginning as I ionian cosmology hit upon

2:17:52

it to that extent the clarification that

2:17:56

Clement appends to it with spermes diomo

2:17:59

is not really all that wrong even as

2:18:01

things proceed further fire itself does

2:18:04

not appear to be just a phase only when

2:18:07

we resolve to interpret the fragment in

2:18:09

this way I think does it become possible

2:18:12

to understand the concluding passage for

2:18:14

the first time evidently it only says

2:18:18

that fire is fundamental and not that

2:18:20

fire trans transforms itself into Earth

2:18:22

and so comes out as something that is

2:18:24

half Earth or that something that is

2:18:26

half fire becomes wind when a hot wind

2:18:28

comes up thus it does not say that the

2:18:31

sea becomes something that is half Earth

2:18:33

and half hot wind but rather that the

2:18:35

hot wind begins with the drying out of

2:18:38

the land halfway so to speak this is an

2:18:42

experience of course that we all know

2:18:46

when a brooding heat lies across the

2:18:48

land it stays cooler by the sea

2:18:51

this is why the concluding passage

2:18:53

handed down to us fits nicely in with

2:18:55

this the fact that in the end the sea

2:18:58

inundates everything again just as it

2:19:00

was in the beginning if Clement wants to

2:19:03

interpret this reconstruction as EP

2:19:05

pyrosis we must establish that nothing

2:19:07

in the text speaks of this the text says

2:19:11

only that in the end the sea inundates

2:19:13

everything again are we supposed to

2:19:16

think that Clement really found in the

2:19:17

text the idea that everything ultimately

2:19:20

becomes fire

2:19:21

and that he would inadvertently have

2:19:23

forgotten to cite it indeed we are

2:19:26

trusting the words of the church fathers

2:19:28

all too much if we believe in a Luna in

2:19:30

the text at this point just because

2:19:32

Clement says saasa ton deoy the only

2:19:36

thing in the transmitted heraclitus text

2:19:38

that could point in this direction would

2:19:40

be an aasis

2:19:42

evaporation the doxography tells us

2:19:45

fantastic things about this in the

2:19:48

doxography there are light and dark

2:19:50

clouds over land and sea the Flaming

2:19:53

basins of the Stars fill themselves from

2:19:55

out of the light clouds the difference

2:19:57

between day and night even the solar

2:20:00

eclipse is supposed to be explainable by

2:20:02

this process all of this is suitably

2:20:05

cloudy obviously diogenes Source found

2:20:09

no clear ideas in this instead it

2:20:12

appears that anatomias was the single

2:20:14

real fundament for these tedious

2:20:17

constructions in any case this has

2:20:20

nothing to do with the alleged World

2:20:22

congration The

2:20:23

eiris Clement was obviously unable to

2:20:26

draw upon anything in the text for his

2:20:28

interpretation otherwise he would have

2:20:31

done so the intuition that is

2:20:33

fundamental to the entire text is most

2:20:35

readily described by simplicius concept

2:20:38

of the drason the active 69 a kind of

2:20:41

General answer of Aristotelian physics

2:20:44

to the

2:20:44

lonians the first thing that can be

2:20:47

indicated about this is the Eternal

2:20:49

movess it is encountered just as much in

2:20:51

the Restless fire as in the Restless

2:20:53

primordial sea the fact that the

2:20:56

establishing of land seems like death

2:20:58

from this perspective is quite

2:21:01

understandable in contrast to the

2:21:03

Restless life of the ocean the fixed

2:21:05

land is something dead so it seems to me

2:21:08

that heraclitus with his doctrine of

2:21:10

fire was inquiring into the background

2:21:13

of ionian

2:21:14

cosmog it was not the transformations of

2:21:17

water fails or air and means but rather

2:21:22

the transformations of fire that this

2:21:25

was

2:21:25

describing this is in a manner of

2:21:28

speaking spoken in the transmitted text

2:21:31

with a provocative emphasis if we now

2:21:34

consider how in this period talasa is

2:21:36

almost a collective noun for the liquid

2:21:38

the fluid the flowing the Restless H

2:21:42

calisan Clement says then the entire

2:21:45

doctrine of flux Falls easily into line

2:21:48

from here on there is still one last

2:21:51

step to take how the cosmic aspect of

2:21:54

the fire Doctrine even though it may be

2:21:56

understood metaphorically connects

2:21:57

itself to the herac lien assertions

2:21:59

about the soul is certainly a difficult

2:22:02

question it should also be pointed out

2:22:04

that the basic evidence for the doctrine

2:22:06

of flux is cited by ybus alone because

2:22:08

of his reference to the psyche which is

2:22:11

aoyan aasis fragment 12 the stoic

2:22:15

interpretation that brings together the

2:22:17

doctrine of flux with the doctrine of

2:22:19

the Soul on the basis of its own

2:22:21

doctrine of Numa seems to me to be an

2:22:23

exceedingly unreliable source therefore

2:22:27

at this point I would rather proceed

2:22:29

from those texts in which immediate

2:22:30

observations are expressed observations

2:22:33

that permit heraclitus fire Doctrine to

2:22:35

come back into a material connection

2:22:37

that by itself proceeds unequivocally

2:22:39

toward the psychical for all that one

2:22:43

result of our skepticism about the

2:22:45

doxography cosmological schema is that

2:22:48

for heraclitus fire should not so much

2:22:50

make understandable and describe the

2:22:52

experience of the world describe how

2:22:55

something comes to be from something

2:22:56

else it is more a question of the real

2:22:59

Riddle That Fire implies for thinking in

2:23:02

onlogic a p terms the establishment of

2:23:05

fire and the extinguishing of fire are

2:23:07

equally

2:23:08

puzzling where does it come from where

2:23:11

does it go the extinguishing May in fact

2:23:15

subside visibly in Embers and Ashes but

2:23:18

where does it come from what is this

2:23:21

sudden flaming up I think it is not so

2:23:24

much that heraclitus seeks an

2:23:25

explanation for this here but that he

2:23:28

recognizes in it the entire mystery of

2:23:30

the eoan to position fire as one element

2:23:33

among the other elements is after all an

2:23:36

absurd Paradox it is the living Essence

2:23:39

itself which makes itself manifest as

2:23:42

Restless

2:23:43

self-movement the real riddle of being

2:23:45

is not how the same ordering of the

2:23:47

whole maintains itself in the change of

2:23:49

events but that that the being of this

2:23:51

change even takes place heraclitus

2:23:54

understood this as the one within all

2:23:56

opposites the unity of what is under

2:23:57

tension in the

2:23:59

Opposites this confirms Plato's

2:24:01

unambiguous expression in which he

2:24:03

contrasts the tense ionian Muses with

2:24:05

the Sicilian ones at the same time this

2:24:10

also describes the structural law of

2:24:12

those statements that we would like to

2:24:13

associate with heraclitus on the basis

2:24:15

of their family

2:24:17

resemblance the one wisdom of heraclitus

2:24:19

is not how the one passes over into the

2:24:22

other but that the one is also the other

2:24:24

without any

2:24:25

transition without transition suddenly

2:24:29

like lightning one comes to the puzzling

2:24:31

aaes in Plato's parids

2:24:34

15060 70 in a sense that finds no proper

2:24:37

place in the elatic antithesis just like

2:24:40

metap Zant fragment

2:24:42

88 the spatial term for such a

2:24:45

transitionless otherness is touching

2:24:47

together hapes thy the key word in the

2:24:49

profound fragment 26 the human being

2:24:52

Kindles a light in the night when the

2:24:54

eyes are

2:24:55

extinguished alive he touches the dead

2:24:59

awake he touches the sleeping

2:25:02

71 the statement poses many riddles as

2:25:05

anyone who has ever lit candles on a

2:25:07

Christmas tree knows there is a close

2:25:10

semantic relationship that exists

2:25:12

between the two meanings of hapan to

2:25:14

Kindle and to touch if one holds the

2:25:17

igniting candle even just a little off

2:25:19

to the side it it will not light the

2:25:21

other one to ignite means to touch how

2:25:25

far these two meanings play into each

2:25:27

other is obviously the question so much

2:25:29

so in any case that there can be no talk

2:25:32

of a play on words at all even if the

2:25:34

middle voice hapi is not generally used

2:25:39

transitively nevertheless the tradition

2:25:41

provides a clear hint in Clement it is a

2:25:44

question of the correspondence between

2:25:46

sleep and death he speaks of the

2:25:49

apostasis test pyes which is greater in

2:25:52

death than it is in sleep if we proceed

2:25:55

from here then we can easily understand

2:25:58

living he touches the dead awake he

2:26:01

touches the sleeping is for instance

2:26:05

huden when he sleeps supposed to have

2:26:08

been added by heraclitus as a solution

2:26:10

for poor riddle solvers the style of the

2:26:13

polarities would be perfect without this

2:26:15

addition and the solution taking its

2:26:18

departure from the last word would be

2:26:19

easy enough

2:26:21

we understand this waking and sleeping

2:26:24

life and death immediately touch one

2:26:27

another to apply a concept that I cannot

2:26:30

yet find evidence of in Plato waking is

2:26:32

a metabol even though in colloquial

2:26:35

Greek its usage is perfectly ordinary

2:26:38

for the weather for example like am

2:26:41

shlag in German there is no transition

2:26:44

between sleeping and being awake either

2:26:47

one is here or one is not here in

2:26:48

Consciousness that is is the phenomena

2:26:51

that heraclitus has in mind are such

2:26:54

total opposites that they show

2:26:55

themselves to be one precisely through

2:26:57

the suddenness of the shift from the one

2:26:59

into the other the waking one and the

2:27:01

sleeping one are one and the same the

2:27:03

one who is alive moreover when one

2:27:07

sleeps one exists differently in a

2:27:09

puzzling way one is not there one is

2:27:12

like a dead person and we even say of

2:27:15

one who is fast asleep that he sleeps

2:27:17

like the dead there is something

2:27:19

mysterious in the suddenness of the

2:27:21

shift when all of a sudden the one who

2:27:24

falls asleep is gone this also holds

2:27:27

true for the beginning of the sleep of

2:27:29

death although this is a conclusive

2:27:31

shift to me so far this epigrammatic

2:27:35

abbreviated text not only seems to sound

2:27:38

heraclion but it even seems to be worthy

2:27:41

of

2:27:41

heraclitus in being awake and being

2:27:44

sleep in something that anyone can

2:27:46

observe at any time without thinking

2:27:48

anything of it apy and oi pamino he

2:27:52

apprehends the one wise thing hence ofon

2:27:55

of death and life but what is the first

2:27:58

statement of the fragment trying to say

2:28:01

anthropo happi certainly the fact that

2:28:05

human beings Master fire and make light

2:28:07

by themselves is one of the oldest

2:28:09

experiences of humanity an experience

2:28:11

that found its expression in the myth of

2:28:14

Prometheus it is also certain that

2:28:16

igniting or lighting a fire is still

2:28:18

something marvelous we also understand

2:28:21

how the lighting of candles or an oil

2:28:23

lamp demonstrates the sameness of what

2:28:25

is burning and what can burn in such a

2:28:27

way that everything is fire but is this

2:28:30

all there is to it a correspondence of

2:28:32

natural extinguishing and self- igniting

2:28:34

with sleeping and waking a

2:28:36

correspondence of death and life with

2:28:37

the art of using fire Clement cites the

2:28:41

whole thing for the sake of waking and

2:28:42

Awakening and generally has in view the

2:28:44

Christian faith in Resurrection that

2:28:46

comes from the promise of

2:28:48

Christianity to this end the obviously

2:28:51

authentic proposition from heraclitus

2:28:53

must have been remolded somewhat so that

2:28:55

the statement anthropo and euphronia fos

2:28:58

HAPO is to be understood either in a

2:29:01

stoic sense or as having been forced by

2:29:03

Clement into a Christian connection with

2:29:05

the help of the insertion of

2:29:07

Aon this permits the Christian Author to

2:29:09

recognize in yron the well-meaning not

2:29:13

only a kind of semantic testimony of

2:29:16

participation in fesus contemplation but

2:29:19

nothing short of a kind of semantic

2:29:21

testimony of faith in the

2:29:23

resurrection but how did heraclitus

2:29:25

himself connect the concluding passage

2:29:28

the analogy between life and death

2:29:30

waking and sleeping to the first

2:29:33

statement that the human being itself

2:29:35

Kindles a light in the night already

2:29:37

points to a very particular use of fire

2:29:39

to make light this does not fit the

2:29:42

situation of the sleeper to me it also

2:29:46

seems misguided to relate such a general

2:29:48

assertion about the human being to to

2:29:50

the dream life as many interpreters

2:29:52

assume at this point in view of the

2:29:54

aises heist

2:29:55

opsies as if we could Master our dreams

2:29:58

like the fire we light then the emphasis

2:30:00

of by himself heo would be

2:30:03

unintelligible to be sure heraclitus

2:30:06

does often oppose the worlds of dreams

2:30:08

and delusion to the common world of the

2:30:10

day and reason yet in the event that the

2:30:13

addition aises heis opsies is really to

2:30:17

be retained and in any case it does

2:30:20

Point toward igniting by means of its

2:30:22

semantic contrast with extinguishing it

2:30:25

must have a special point the

2:30:27

extinguished eyes if this actually

2:30:29

occurs in heraclitus original statement

2:30:31

necessarily give the night a

2:30:33

metaphorical sense the night in which we

2:30:36

do not dream but instead see thanks to

2:30:38

the light that we ourselves Kindle this

2:30:40

is what we all do when the human being

2:30:42

awakens the real peculiarity of the

2:30:45

human being is not the dreaming but the

2:30:47

dawning of this Inner Light that we call

2:30:49

thinking or cons ious nness C for

2:30:51

instance fragment

2:30:55

11672 now whether the addition of Appo

2:30:58

best heist opsies is really herac liten

2:31:00

or has been added as a solution guide by

2:31:02

a good adviser on heraclion riddles it

2:31:05

suits the meaning 73 thus we receive

2:31:08

unexpected reinforcement from this for

2:31:11

thinking inflaming self-movement and the

2:31:13

Soul together whatever else psyche might

2:31:16

have been in early Greek thought the

2:31:18

list of assertions that that heraclitus

2:31:20

makes here about the soul forces us to

2:31:23

see in psyche not just the living

2:31:25

something that escapes with the dying

2:31:27

breath the socratic platonic resonances

2:31:30

are unmistakable even if Pythagoras and

2:31:33

his idea of anamnesis as the path to

2:31:35

Salvation from the cycle of births may

2:31:37

have already been playing a role there

2:31:40

let us assume that what is meant here is

2:31:42

not the light of the dream but rather

2:31:44

the brightness that we call

2:31:45

Consciousness and this is indeed really

2:31:47

like an Abrupt Awakening from sleep a

2:31:50

coming to oneself he oill then the herac

2:31:54

lien logos gains its full expressive

2:31:56

power for the first time the pyr foren

2:31:59

that Flames up when one comes to oneself

2:32:01

and this takes a while for some sleepers

2:32:04

is no isolation but the path toward

2:32:06

participation in the common day and the

2:32:08

common world it is obtained in Fran and

2:32:11

logos but obviously lost in Madness as

2:32:14

well thus the whole of the heraclitean

2:32:16

doctrine is connected to the profundity

2:32:18

of these analogies and parallels in

2:32:20

which fire and soul water and death are

2:32:23

so peculiarly enclosed and yet at the

2:32:26

same time these assertions break through

2:32:28

the enclosure of these entwinement and

2:32:30

thereby assume an appealing character

2:32:32

and exhort us toward Insight admittedly

2:32:36

some of these exhortative passages

2:32:38

hardly seem to correspond to the

2:32:39

morphological criteria for genuine herac

2:32:42

lien style from which I am

2:32:44

proceeding but is this not perhaps more

2:32:46

often due to the trivializing

2:32:48

citations I offer an example in which

2:32:51

the excavation of such a trivializing

2:32:53

can be demonstrated in two steps this is

2:32:57

fragment 46 10 Teo e and hin no and El

2:33:01

Kai 10 Horus and Suits Tai self-

2:33:03

diluting he called epilepsy and seeing

2:33:06

he called deceptive today it is

2:33:09

acknowledged that we must filter out the

2:33:11

assertion about oesis from the

2:33:13

epistemological context in which it

2:33:15

appears here we must restore the word's

2:33:18

original moral sense which has nothing

2:33:20

to do with Plato's daa 74 it seems to me

2:33:24

that no proof is needed for the fact

2:33:27

that the epistemological use of the word

2:33:29

in Plato fed 992a fadus

2:33:34

244c is not its original use C ureides

2:33:38

fragment

2:33:40

643 on the contrary in Homer the

2:33:43

pragmatic meaning of oomi to foresee

2:33:46

suggests that we understand oesis as

2:33:48

Madness delusional self-certainty blind

2:33:52

optimism from there one's own self

2:33:55

proves itself to be the favorite object

2:33:57

of delusional self-certainty

2:34:00

oesis therefore corresponds to

2:34:03

self-esteem does heraclitus then really

2:34:06

want to make cold-hearted fun of

2:34:07

epilepsy when he Compares it to

2:34:10

oesis if we keep in mind the exact

2:34:12

expression for epilepsy that had become

2:34:14

the technical one the sacred illness we

2:34:17

should not put too much weight on the

2:34:19

Fallen one ones as such rather the

2:34:22

sacred illness of epilepsy canotes a

2:34:24

devout and forbearance for those

2:34:25

afflicted by it for one to Rob or

2:34:28

otherwise harm one who has fallen from

2:34:30

it would be nothing less than a

2:34:32

sacrilege I think then that heraclitus

2:34:36

wants to say something important here

2:34:39

the moment of a and forbearance is also

2:34:41

suited to the opinion that all human

2:34:43

beings have of themselves an element of

2:34:46

Madness of blind self-indulgence lies

2:34:49

within every human we might call it a

2:34:52

sickness to get over it through

2:34:54

self-critique and reason with the help

2:34:56

of that reason that is common to us all

2:34:59

would lead to a proper healthy

2:35:02

self-esteem nevertheless this sickness

2:35:04

so far as it is one Demands a certain

2:35:07

forbearance no one can bear to be

2:35:09

without an opinion of himself even a

2:35:11

modest one in Lord Jim Joseph Conrad has

2:35:15

described the tragic life of a young man

2:35:17

who through guilt has has suffered the

2:35:20

complete loss of this opinion of himself

2:35:23

this paradoxical statement certainly

2:35:25

does not intend to exhort forbearance

2:35:27

for illusions about

2:35:29

ourselves but heraclitus sees the Power

2:35:31

of the illusions that each of us has

2:35:33

about ourselves just as he correctly

2:35:35

sees that human fate is not stamped Upon

2:35:37

Us by the Divine guidance of a Dion but

2:35:39

rather by the proper guidance of Life

2:35:42

ethos he even says this in fragment

2:35:45

119 ethos anthropoid Dion why shouldn't

2:35:49

both the Calamity of Madness and the

2:35:51

dictates of forbearance occur in

2:35:53

heraclitus they could have occurred here

2:35:56

fragment 43 with fragment 46 appended to

2:35:59

it huin CHR benun now malan kayen tend o

2:36:03

e and hin no and El perhaps this is the

2:36:06

case like so much else it would

2:36:09

certainly Accord with the profound

2:36:11

vision of that connoisseur of the Soul

2:36:15

heraclitus we cannot mistake the fact

2:36:17

that his style of thinking is far more

2:36:19

closely associated with the pregnancy

2:36:21

and sharpness of gomic aphoristic wisdom

2:36:23

than it is to ionian science the

2:36:26

critical confrontation with the latter

2:36:28

which is expressed in the doctrine of

2:36:30

fire gives rise to astounding assertions

2:36:33

about the psyche and its logos the idea

2:36:36

that the logos of the Soul increases

2:36:38

itself 75 must I think be seen along

2:36:41

with all of the assertions that

2:36:43

emphasize the one Unity hidden behind

2:36:45

what is oppositional as the one wise

2:36:47

thing we may not suppose here in a postc

2:36:51

cartisan way the substantial distinction

2:36:54

between an outer and an inner we must

2:36:55

recognize the simplest observation in

2:36:57

this the observation that the psyche is

2:37:00

life and that the living in distinction

2:37:02

to everything is the total that becomes

2:37:04

more because something is added to it it

2:37:07

enlarges itself unfolds itself moves

2:37:10

itself and in the end it seeks itself

2:37:15

this itself which suffuses all abrupt

2:37:18

change with one and the same thing thing

2:37:20

places heraclitus in opposition to the

2:37:22

Milan thinking on opposites the self-

2:37:25

igniting of fire the self- moving of the

2:37:28

living the coming to itself of the

2:37:30

waking one and the self-thinking of

2:37:32

thinking are all manifestations of the

2:37:34

one logos that always is the mysterious

2:37:38

itself is what accounts for all of

2:37:39

heraclitus

2:37:41

profundity here in an inimitable way he

2:37:44

maintains that unique middle that in

2:37:46

modern thinking has gotten lost in the

2:37:49

reflex it of self-consciousness

2:37:52

hap is it igniting for itself or is it

2:37:56

becoming inflamed by itself like a log

2:37:58

in the

2:37:59

fireplace not to know this is the lone

2:38:02

wise thing from this we understand how

2:38:05

the platonic question of the one and the

2:38:07

many can recognize itself again itself

2:38:09

in the tense Muses of Ionia it seems

2:38:12

that heraclitus vision is a synopsis of

2:38:14

being alive being conscious and being it

2:38:17

was precisely this task of thinking

2:38:20

together what has thus been separated

2:38:21

that Plato saw himself confronted with

2:38:24

the fedo vividly tells the story which

2:38:27

begins with the natural principle of the

2:38:29

soul the principle that there can of

2:38:32

course be no life without the Ark of the

2:38:34

natural cycle this is why nature renews

2:38:37

life over and over in arhythmic return

2:38:39

so that there is no death for it this

2:38:43

however is but one aspect of life and

2:38:46

soul there is also the life for which

2:38:49

death death is something because a human

2:38:50

being is something other than just a

2:38:53

link in the chain of life that rolls

2:38:55

rhythmically on life has memory so

2:38:58

through experience it becomes more it

2:39:00

increases Itself by traveling through

2:39:02

the circular course of life this is the

2:39:05

thinking that the fedo

2:39:07

enacts Socrates shows his friends how

2:39:10

the principle of life and these other

2:39:11

principles of thinking and anamneses are

2:39:14

one and Inseparable in just the same way

2:39:16

that becoming and being are an aigor is

2:39:19

knew better than to unify them in the

2:39:22

fadis the myth of the ascent of the soul

2:39:24

and its downfall embodies the same

2:39:26

Insight here Plato Fashions and inspires

2:39:30

his Socrates as a true master of poetic

2:39:32

discourse and speculative irony who

2:39:34

makes his young friend who was

2:39:36

thoughtlessly heeding rhetorical

2:39:38

virtuosity conscious of the fact that

2:39:40

AOS is something other than the calculus

2:39:42

of profit and pleasure that Lis Artful

2:39:44

piece of rhetoric

2:39:46

imagines but before this flood of Mythic

2:39:48

imagination begins to run its

2:39:50

breathtaking course Socrates puts

2:39:53

forward something like a proof all soul

2:39:55

is Immortal and all that is soul

2:39:58

concerns itself with that which is

2:39:59

soulless

2:40:01

76 notice here that Soul suddenly

2:40:03

becomes the principle of

2:40:05

self-movement the story that is then

2:40:07

told recounts that this principle which

2:40:10

holds sway throughout the entire

2:40:11

universe and through which the heavens

2:40:13

obtain their order also has its place in

2:40:16

the soul of the individual and indeed in

2:40:17

the unity of loving and learning

2:40:19

learning in so far as learning is

2:40:22

anamnesis the remembrance of the true

2:40:24

each of us has a share of what is true

2:40:27

this is obviously the great Insight that

2:40:29

Plato is alluding to here which at this

2:40:32

point he calls axis 245

2:40:36

C4 self-movement is truly a miracle

2:40:39

while everything in motion is usually

2:40:41

moved by something and is in motion only

2:40:43

so long as it is moved that which is

2:40:46

living that which has a soul is in

2:40:48

motion by its own impetus and is in

2:40:50

motion as long as it is alive this has

2:40:53

its own evidence this evidence is strong

2:40:56

enough to derve yet another proof for

2:40:58

the immortality of the soul the world

2:41:01

this great ordering composed of Astral

2:41:03

and Earthly movements cannot be bound at

2:41:06

all to the idea of a state of rest

2:41:09

Socrates concludes the following from

2:41:11

this that which is the cause of such

2:41:13

self-movement the soul must always be

2:41:16

there as well it looks as though Plato

2:41:19

at this point fulfills an expectation

2:41:22

that as it says in the sparids

2:41:26

196a only a very wise man could fulfill

2:41:30

namely to show that there is a dynames

2:41:32

that moves on its own and not by virtue

2:41:34

of something else at the same time he

2:41:37

would also show himself to be the Delan

2:41:40

diver who brought something precious to

2:41:41

light from out of the dark depths of

2:41:44

heraclitus in this way Plato is

2:41:46

interpreting the being of the human

2:41:48

being in the Great scope of cosmic

2:41:50

events in that he unifies the two

2:41:52

aspects of self-movement and logos in

2:41:54

mythical

2:41:55

metaphors Aristotle sought to perfect

2:41:57

this unification in his conceptual

2:41:59

constructs Kinesis noesis energia 77 and

2:42:05

Hagel that great Aristotelian of

2:42:07

modernity follows him however is

2:42:11

haidegger not also Justified when he

2:42:13

discovers a heraclitus who is inquiring

2:42:15

back behind metaphysics yet one in whom

2:42:18

all things play to one another could he

2:42:21

not also have discovered Plato's

2:42:23

dialectic in which the play of these

2:42:25

ideas is played out further I end the

2:42:28

time of the unrestrained triumphal March

2:42:30

of modern scientific explanation the

2:42:32

relationship of natural scientific

2:42:34

research to its history was a peculiarly

2:42:36

indifferent one it viewed its own

2:42:39

history Under The Guiding idea of an

2:42:40

advancement in

2:42:42

research but this means that the always

2:42:44

contemporary position of research

2:42:46

contains within itself everything that

2:42:48

has ever been AC ired in the history of

2:42:50

the science with respect to positive

2:42:52

knowledge a position vavis the history

2:42:55

of This research can Merit attention

2:42:57

therefore only from out of an interest

2:42:59

subordinated to the interests of

2:43:01

historical research in general according

2:43:04

to its own conception of things for

2:43:06

science itself to investigate the

2:43:08

natural scientific worldview of an

2:43:10

earlier time remained an indifferent

2:43:12

undertaking a worldview that did not yet

2:43:14

have this or that knowledge and

2:43:15

therefore suffered under

2:43:16

misapprehensions that have since been

2:43:18

overcome

2:43:20

admittedly historical scientific

2:43:22

scholarship could occasionally present

2:43:24

current research with a stimulating

2:43:26

impetus provided that the problems that

2:43:28

had occupied a past epic of research

2:43:30

came to light again in a fresh way one

2:43:33

that was interesting for the present but

2:43:36

such cases were actually not only

2:43:38

extremely rare but above all because of

2:43:41

the notion that the present position of

2:43:43

science already had in its keeping all

2:43:45

of the problems that its objects had

2:43:47

ever posed for it these historical cases

2:43:50

could present no real impetus for an

2:43:52

interest in historical research whenever

2:43:55

science did turn back toward the

2:43:56

extraneous historical work of such a

2:43:58

task it was only an inadvertent

2:44:01

forgetfulness of its proper task now

2:44:04

undoubtedly the delimitation of

2:44:06

classical mechanics by the discoveries

2:44:08

of the latest physics has brought about

2:44:10

a certain easing of this

2:44:12

situation the necessity of relinquishing

2:44:15

seemingly certain fundamentals of

2:44:16

classical science in the fields of

2:44:18

nuclear physics and astrophysics

2:44:20

facilitates the possibility of yet

2:44:22

seeing the origination of this classical

2:44:24

science from perspectives other than

2:44:26

that of the advances that it has

2:44:27

achieved which means however that it

2:44:31

also facilitates the fundamental

2:44:33

possibility of seeing in modern Natural

2:44:35

Science a historically determined aspect

2:44:37

one whose intellectual and ideological

2:44:39

meaning is not fully determined by the

2:44:42

pure attainment of knowledge the

2:44:44

research itself which in this way seems

2:44:47

to come to the aid of an historical

2:44:48

examp examination of classical science

2:44:51

is nevertheless far from drawing such

2:44:53

conclusions for its own sense of itself

2:44:56

rather it sees in its new achievement a

2:44:58

self-evident operation of its

2:45:00

fundamental principle that of overcoming

2:45:02

errors in scientific progress and

2:45:04

preserving only the truths thus it

2:45:07

Awards to classical mechanics ancient

2:45:09

Undisputed validity within the domain of

2:45:11

its own boundaries and with its

2:45:13

abandonment of ukian space and the idea

2:45:15

of complete causal determination in

2:45:18

addition to its demonstration that the

2:45:20

intuitive model of the atom is no longer

2:45:22

tenable the new scientific research

2:45:24

believes itself to have refuted not so

2:45:26

much new tonian science as the

2:45:28

interpretation of it through the

2:45:29

philosophical operar ISM of the

2:45:31

intuition one indeed The Logical

2:45:34

consistency of this positivistic

2:45:36

self-interpretation corroborates itself

2:45:38

in the consistency of the progress of

2:45:40

research from classical mechanics to the

2:45:42

new physics we would be misjudging the

2:45:45

situation however if we were to discern

2:45:48

that this for forward development of

2:45:49

Natural Science had itself simply taken

2:45:52

a wrong turn the significance of this

2:45:55

revolutionary development of the newest

2:45:57

physics lies precisely in the fact that

2:45:59

it makes its basic principles obvious

2:46:01

and thereby forces philosophical

2:46:03

Consciousness to take up the question of

2:46:05

the ontological meaning the intellectual

2:46:08

presuppositions and the claim of this

2:46:10

knowledge of nature in their full weight

2:46:12

a ma mazing of nature whose Origins lie

2:46:16

in the centuries in which modern Natural

2:46:18

Science sence has developed itself into

2:46:20

the essential determining factor of

2:46:22

modern culture perfects itself in the

2:46:24

fundamental abandonment of intuitiveness

2:46:27

which seems to have become inevitable

2:46:29

certainly not for the practice of the

2:46:31

individual physical sciences but for the

2:46:34

theoretical interpretation of their

2:46:35

Collective

2:46:36

results thus even now it is definitely

2:46:40

not the interests of Natural Science

2:46:42

itself that induce it to take an

2:46:44

interest in its history scientific

2:46:46

research as such would have no scruples

2:46:48

about absolving itself from the

2:46:50

intuitiveness of the field of the

2:46:52

astronomical and atomic events it

2:46:54

explores if it were not thereby pressed

2:46:55

to admit that this new knowledge is in

2:46:57

no way more capable of transforming the

2:46:59

natural worldview of the

2:47:01

intuition of course Newtonian science

2:47:04

also had to relinquish broad areas of

2:47:06

natural events that an essentially

2:47:08

descriptive process of contemplating

2:47:10

nature reserves to itself because such

2:47:12

events exceeded the possibilities of

2:47:14

mechanical causal

2:47:16

explanation but this did signify a real

2:47:18

transformation of the natural worldview

2:47:20

under the causal mechanistic mode of

2:47:22

perception that attained the fundamental

2:47:24

power of its expression in the existence

2:47:26

dossan of

2:47:27

Technology its spiritual meaning and its

2:47:30

significance for the whole of human life

2:47:32

were by themselves comprehensible to

2:47:34

everyone the new turn against this led

2:47:37

to conceptual consequences that severed

2:47:39

this self-evident connection something

2:47:42

like an empirical philosophy to would

2:47:44

hardly suffice to reconstitute this

2:47:46

connection nor would it be suitable so

2:47:49

it is no coincidence that a historical

2:47:51

interest in its own Heritage is emerging

2:47:54

an interest that belongs within the

2:47:55

context of its own mode of

2:47:57

interpretation and touches upon its

2:47:59

essential basis as a science no one

2:48:02

today can say whether this task of

2:48:04

interpretation will not one day help to

2:48:06

determine the course of scientific

2:48:08

advancement itself the beginnings of

2:48:10

modern Natural Science are widely

2:48:12

thought to be determined by the

2:48:14

productive adoption and further

2:48:15

development of ancient ideas a process

2:48:18

through which the fundaments of the

2:48:19

dominant Aristotelian slm medieval view

2:48:22

of nature were destroyed among these

2:48:24

ancient ideas the idea of the atom

2:48:28

occupies a particularly prominent

2:48:30

position in their Reawakening the

2:48:33

interests of incipient scientific

2:48:35

research and critical Exposition Allied

2:48:37

themselves with the Christian worldview

2:48:39

and the science of the school the main

2:48:41

source of ancient atomism the dactic

2:48:44

poem on the nature of things by lucar

2:48:46

tus who was accused of heresy because of

2:48:49

his atheism was among the most

2:48:51

powerfully effective books of this time

2:48:54

we possess a thorough and clear-sighted

2:48:56

depiction of the significance of ancient

2:48:57

atomism for the emergence of the modern

2:48:59

Natural Sciences in Kurt lt's great work

2:49:03

the history of

2:49:04

atomism this depiction however lacks an

2:49:07

interpretation and assessment of ancient

2:49:10

atomism itself and not for incidental

2:49:12

reasons the philosophy of the modern

2:49:15

Natural Sciences which provided the

2:49:17

systematic guiding thread for lt's

2:49:19

historical research also posited a

2:49:22

temporal limit for the same research he

2:49:25

interprets the natural philosophy of

2:49:27

antiquity only in so far as it is

2:49:29

relevant to incipient modernity the

2:49:32

historical attitude of this

2:49:33

philosophical historian of atomism is

2:49:35

demonstrate in the fact that he stays

2:49:37

within the limits set for him by The

2:49:39

Guiding idea of a progress in the

2:49:41

conceptual methods of natural scientific

2:49:43

research in fact the picture that modern

2:49:47

historical research paints of ient

2:49:48

atomism is determined most informatively

2:49:51

by the Undisputed validity of the

2:49:53

scientific ideal of the modern Natural

2:49:55

Sciences this expresses itself in a

2:49:58

remarkable insecurity about its

2:50:00

historical value which in turn leads to

2:50:02

a corresponding insecurity about the

2:50:04

actual doctrine of ancient

2:50:06

atomism as is well known we possess no

2:50:09

original overall interpretation of

2:50:11

ancient atomism from its actual

2:50:13

scientific hday from the 5ifth to the

2:50:16

4th Century before Christ but only from

2:50:19

the scientifically fatigued period of

2:50:20

helenistic

2:50:22

epicureanism the countercurrents to

2:50:24

ancient atomism that had come to Prevail

2:50:26

in Aristotle's natural philosophy now

2:50:28

determin the peculiar doctrine of

2:50:30

epicurian natural philosophy so

2:50:32

completely that they distort its picture

2:50:34

of the original atomism of Democritus

2:50:36

and Lucius in essential points for thus

2:50:39

we can only recognize in them one source

2:50:42

for the Reconstruction of the original

2:50:44

atomism and not a particularly excellent

2:50:47

source at that the open opposition of

2:50:49

Aristotle is therefore more reliable for

2:50:52

us than this spasmodic adherence and its

2:50:54

exponents in late

2:50:55

Antiquity but this is precisely the

2:50:58

point where the historical view was

2:50:59

biased by the fact that this ancient

2:51:01

opponent of atomism has been at the same

2:51:04

time the great vanquished adversary of

2:51:06

early modern Natural Science thus in the

2:51:10

Collision of this Collective opposition

2:51:12

against Aristotle historical research

2:51:15

has pulled ancient atomism into line

2:51:17

with modern Natural Science and for this

2:51:19

reason has been inclined many times to

2:51:21

reconstruct a system for explaining

2:51:23

nature from the sparse accounts of the

2:51:24

ancient ones A system that already

2:51:26

contain the basic principles of modern

2:51:28

Natural Science from out of this

2:51:31

historical observation however arose the

2:51:34

reverse question of why this futuristic

2:51:36

attitude of ancient Natural Science has

2:51:38

been attributed to Aristotelian

2:51:40

Philosophy for 2,000 years and if one

2:51:44

did not want to use the evasive excuse

2:51:46

that the ancient intellect had simply

2:51:48

become too tired to develop modern

2:51:50

Natural Science from out of these

2:51:51

rudiments of ancient atomism all by

2:51:53

itself one had to look for internal

2:51:56

shortcomings in these

2:51:57

rudiments this happened again however in

2:52:01

the sense that one measured ancient

2:52:02

atomism on the scale of progress from

2:52:04

out of which modernity took its

2:52:06

seemingly identical

2:52:08

Foundation thus we have seen the

2:52:10

historical impossibility of a further

2:52:12

fruitful development of ancient atomism

2:52:14

in the shortcomings of its

2:52:16

accomplishments for instance in its lack

2:52:18

of a mechanics of colliding bodies or on

2:52:22

the other hand we have trusted in the

2:52:24

authority of Aristotle to the extent

2:52:26

that considering the state of the

2:52:28

knowledge of nature at that time we have

2:52:30

conferred upon his physics a real

2:52:32

priority over the atomistic for this

2:52:34

future first arose from out of the

2:52:36

developed state of the mathematical SL

2:52:38

physical methods of modern times thus

2:52:42

the estimation of ancient atomism

2:52:43

fluctuates between the extreme contrasts

2:52:46

of an unreserved admiration for its

2:52:48

perspective Ive modernity and a

2:52:49

confident devaluation of its scientific

2:52:51

and philosophical weight this evaluative

2:52:54

fluctuation corresponded to the

2:52:56

conception and reconstruction of the

2:52:58

doctrine itself we can be permitted to

2:53:01

suppose that neither opposition befits

2:53:03

the true

2:53:05

situation but we can find a real

2:53:07

settlement of this controversy only from

2:53:09

a new ground that replaces the common

2:53:11

standard the standard against which it

2:53:13

has been measured until now but this

2:53:16

common standard is the idea of mod

2:53:18

Natural Science before which this

2:53:20

atomism may stand or fall if we

2:53:23

elaborate it in such a way that it

2:53:25

stands up to modern science then the

2:53:27

philosophy of Aristotle is a Scholastic

2:53:30

error if we keep it on the footing of

2:53:32

its factual knowledge of nature so that

2:53:34

it fails then Aristotle's philosophy is

2:53:37

the relatively Superior albeit

2:53:39

superseded point of view which the

2:53:42

decree of its historical success

2:53:44

confirms now at the moment we are ready

2:53:47

to direct our gaze toward the historical

2:53:49

uniqueness and the intellectual

2:53:50

presuppositions of the modern

2:53:52

mathematical Natural Sciences we will

2:53:54

have to withdraw ourselves at the same

2:53:56

time from the standard they offered for

2:53:58

evaluating ancient atomism and build

2:54:00

ourselves an image of that ancient

2:54:02

Natural Science from out of what it was

2:54:04

within the whole of Greek natural

2:54:06

philosophy and as a complete

2:54:07

interpretation of Nature and existence

2:54:10

ancient atomism is not a research

2:54:12

hypothesis of a mathematical SL physical

2:54:15

science that would have to prove Itself

2:54:17

by achieving an exact explanation for

2:54:19

the reality of experience and that

2:54:20

claimed validity only as far as it was

2:54:23

indispensable for this explanation and

2:54:25

the interpretation of experimental data

2:54:28

it is rather a basic sketch of true

2:54:31

reality as it grows out of the

2:54:32

philosophical question of the being of

2:54:35

reality five thus it belongs within the

2:54:38

context of the dawn of Greek philosophy

2:54:40

which seeks to think the thoughts of

2:54:42

nature the mythological worldview that

2:54:45

understood the events in nature and the

2:54:47

fates of human beings from from out of

2:54:48

the decrees and active intervention of

2:54:50

the reigning Gods faded with the first

2:54:52

thinking of these events it is extremely

2:54:55

significant that we attribute the saying

2:54:57

everything is full of gods that is that

2:55:00

the powers that determine natural events

2:55:03

and the existence of human beings in

2:55:04

nature lie within nature itself to thals

2:55:08

the man whom we consider to be the first

2:55:10

philosopher when democr atomism

2:55:13

reinterpreted the saying in the form of

2:55:15

a shocking atheism as it were and

2:55:17

explained everything entirely on the

2:55:19

basis of that ultimate invisible reality

2:55:21

of swarming Adams it was only thinking

2:55:25

this conception of nature through to its

2:55:27

logical conclusion six from thals to

2:55:30

democratus the sages are searching for

2:55:33

the answer to the question of what

2:55:34

nature is what is it that is permanent

2:55:36

in this continual Flux Of occurring and

2:55:39

passing away that grants it rules and

2:55:40

Order and reliable

2:55:42

recurrence none of the answers that the

2:55:44

physicists gave for this question is a

2:55:46

physical thesis in the sense of the

2:55:48

modern Natural

2:55:49

Sciences whenever the physicists adopted

2:55:52

one or more materials either within then

2:55:55

or outside of their operative forces

2:55:57

forces that form the Contours of the

2:55:59

world from these materials an intuition

2:56:01

of the true essence of reality always

2:56:03

guided them and they availed themselves

2:56:06

of the natural scientific knowledge from

2:56:08

which they proceeded in a peculiarly

2:56:10

free mode of analogical

2:56:12

generalization this is important for the

2:56:14

question of the essence and purpose of

2:56:16

atomism indeed

2:56:18

there is a vast difference between those

2:56:20

oldest theories of matter which found

2:56:23

the multiplicity of appearances

2:56:24

indicated in the condensation and rif

2:56:26

faction of a basic material and the

2:56:29

scientific theory of atomism which first

2:56:31

made the phenomena of condensation and

2:56:33

rifac genuinely

2:56:35

explicable and yet it will be shown that

2:56:38

even the atomism of an original overall

2:56:40

interpretation of being was Guided by IR

2:56:42

rational explanation and not by the

2:56:44

sheer effort to fortify those half

2:56:46

mythical material doctrines of the I Ian

2:56:49

philosophers admittedly what seems to

2:56:52

give Ancient atomism its particular

2:56:54

priority within Greek natural

2:56:55

speculation is the radicalness with

2:56:57

which it attributes the entire world of

2:56:59

qualities to the bare form and movement

2:57:01

of the atoms the fact that this Theory

2:57:04

looks suspiciously like an anticipation

2:57:06

of kinetic gas Theory will always make

2:57:08

it interesting to the present day

2:57:10

naturalist but the historian will also

2:57:13

see the summit and Perfection of the

2:57:14

Greek Enlightenment in it because it is

2:57:16

far superior to all other contemporary

2:57:18

corpuscular theories in its Simplicity

2:57:21

and

2:57:22

rationality although certainly the

2:57:24

proximity to the atomistic worldview is

2:57:26

to be recognized in idoc's doctrine of

2:57:28

the elements especially his explanation

2:57:30

of sense perception by pores and

2:57:32

effluences seven and in an aigor is

2:57:34

qualitative atomism still they have

2:57:37

precisely missed the chilling

2:57:39

consequences with which atomism excludes

2:57:42

all qualitative differences from the

2:57:44

primary realities of being and all

2:57:46

intellectual forces from the concept of

2:57:48

the natural order thus the world view of

2:57:51

an idals or an an aorus is less of a

2:57:53

mediating precursor to the atomic theory

2:57:55

of lpus and Democritus than were some of

2:57:58

the rather less coherent ways of playing

2:58:00

out the enlightenment inclinations of

2:58:02

the time by their proximity however they

2:58:05

let us see the audacity of atomic theory

2:58:08

only more so the audacity that is with

2:58:11

which this Theory undertook to explain

2:58:14

from one single basic assumption all

2:58:16

forms of natural occurrence

2:58:18

the coming into being and passing away

2:58:20

of nature Wesson growth and Decay

2:58:23

qualitative change and change in

2:58:25

location 8 indeed when we look at the

2:58:28

rationality of this ancient atomism we

2:58:30

want to call upon this precursor to

2:58:32

confirm the correctness of modern

2:58:34

Natural Science but we will have to ask

2:58:37

ourselves whether the basic precepts of

2:58:39

the Greek conception of the world would

2:58:41

not be violated here and whether a

2:58:42

foreign as well as distant future

2:58:45

conception of a plenum would prematurely

2:58:47

announce the the end of the Greek

2:58:49

understanding of existence the following

2:58:51

arguments will try to show that this is

2:58:53

in fact so and that the grounds for the

2:58:55

overthrow of ancient atomism are

2:58:57

situated precisely within atomism itself

2:59:01

along with the specifically Greek

2:59:02

conception of the order of nature that

2:59:04

is also operative in it the

2:59:06

interpretation of the World by means of

2:59:08

an atomistic mechanics enters into an

2:59:10

inner tension that paralyzes it and

2:59:12

leads it into the proximity of

2:59:15

skepticism first the alienation of the

2:59:18

presuppositions of Greek ontology in the

2:59:20

beginnings of modernity opens the idea

2:59:22

of the atom for its triumphal progress

2:59:24

in the mathematical Sciences the

2:59:27

decisive step that lpus and Democritus

2:59:29

took the Assumption of emptiness as an

2:59:31

internal structural element of the

2:59:33

corporeal world is a radical break with

2:59:35

natural intuition and the philosophical

2:59:37

concept of the body to assume empty

2:59:40

space exterior to the whole of the

2:59:42

corporeal world is obviously something

2:59:44

quite natural and the idea that wherever

2:59:46

a body changes its location there must

2:59:48

be empty spaces just as natural and

2:59:51

nearly as intuitive even if the

2:59:53

philosophers have not been able to think

2:59:55

this intuition as having a location for

2:59:58

self-movement but in addition to this

3:00:01

the democon theory which conceived the

3:00:05

corporeal itself as an accumulation of

3:00:07

indivisible particles permeating empty

3:00:09

space was of course in no way

3:00:12

contradictory to previous philosophical

3:00:15

conceptions of corporeal being at

3:00:17

admittedly this Assumption of emptiness

3:00:20

could make phenomena truly

3:00:21

comprehensible change of location

3:00:24

condensation and rif faction growth and

3:00:27

so on but how that emptiness could be

3:00:30

something that exists and even something

3:00:33

that constantly and necessarily belongs

3:00:35

to the being of physical things that was

3:00:37

difficult to Think Through by means of

3:00:38

the Greek concept of being that had been

3:00:40

formulated in the philosophy of

3:00:43

parids the history of more recent

3:00:45

Natural Science confirms that

3:00:47

oppositions rooted in the substance

3:00:48

concept of Greek ontology opposed the

3:00:51

recognition of a vacuum the production

3:00:53

of the macroscopic vacuum in torelli's

3:00:56

experiment first cleared the path that

3:00:58

the ancient objections to the existence

3:01:00

of the vacuum had either kept obstructed

3:01:02

or had been permitted to follow only

3:01:04

hesitantly and only for microscopic

3:01:06

vacua example by Galileo in his disc ory

3:01:10

in fact to this day the atomistic thesis

3:01:13

that both emptiness and applum exist has

3:01:15

not yet been thought through in its

3:01:17

ontological

3:01:18

consequences the mode of being of a

3:01:20

mathematical sketch as it represents

3:01:22

empty space is also an

3:01:30

unexplicably on the being of the spasum

3:01:33

absolutum before it became required in

3:01:35

the course of the most recent research

3:01:37

for positing the basic Givens of

3:01:39

mathematical nature Givens that are in

3:01:41

complete ontological

3:01:43

suspension which ones then are the

3:01:46

fundamental assumptions upon which the

3:01:48

world view of ancient atomism are based

3:01:51

the answer to this question points most

3:01:53

clearly to how very much ancient atomism

3:01:55

remained determined by the ontology that

3:01:57

impressed itself upon the idea of

3:02:00

substance with its Assumption of

3:02:02

emptiness it does not Venture into the

3:02:04

dimension of mathematical abstraction

3:02:07

rather it underg guards the reality of

3:02:09

sensual experience by a true world of

3:02:11

things and processes that possesses A

3:02:13

peculiar intuitiveness albeit one

3:02:15

withdrawn from our observation

3:02:18

like all Greek natural philosophers

3:02:20

before Aristotle the atomists presented

3:02:23

their philosophy in the form of an

3:02:24

origin of the universe a

3:02:27

cosmog nine the beginning of World

3:02:30

formation contains no assertion

3:02:32

concerning the motive force that gives

3:02:34

rise to it there is emptiness and

3:02:36

fullness in the

3:02:38

universe this universe is Limitless with

3:02:40

respect to space and time world

3:02:43

formation occurs when many multiform

3:02:45

Corpus CLE are discharged from out of

3:02:47

the infinite the borderless reserve as

3:02:50

it were of all World becoming and move

3:02:52

into the great emptiness when they

3:02:55

Collide and conglomerate they generate a

3:02:57

quaking Vortex that as in a winnowing

3:03:00

fan brings like together with like the

3:03:03

larger accumulations that have gathered

3:03:05

sinking toward the center from where

3:03:07

they expel the light fine atoms which

3:03:09

scatter into the great void until a

3:03:11

globule forms which in turn pulls a kind

3:03:14

of crocheted network of atoms around

3:03:16

itself like a skin the beginning of a

3:03:18

cosmic system within which the atoms

3:03:20

themselves which have become heavy

3:03:22

through there interlacing conglomerate

3:03:25

toward the Earth the fine atoms forming

3:03:27

the heavenly bodies and so forth from

3:03:31

this portrayal of the world formation

3:03:33

the following emerges for the being of

3:03:34

the things themselves an appearance is

3:03:37

what shows itself to us as the unity of

3:03:39

a thing's form in truth each one is many

3:03:43

and many can never grow into an actual

3:03:45

one just as the actual one the

3:03:48

indivisible Unity of the atom can ever

3:03:50

really become many all of what is is a

3:03:53

mixture of fullness and emptiness which

3:03:56

means however that emptiness as that

3:03:59

which holds things apart from one

3:04:00

another is the actual cause of the

3:04:02

formed unities that appear for only what

3:04:05

is held apart a swarm of atoms in the

3:04:07

void can join itself together into the

3:04:10

unity of a form the process of this

3:04:13

jointure itself obeys purely mechanical

3:04:15

laws The Continuous AG V itation of the

3:04:18

particles brings them into contact with

3:04:20

one another in so far as they do not

3:04:23

Ricochet off of one another again as the

3:04:25

perception of solid bodies teaches us in

3:04:28

contrast to the Restless movement

3:04:29

demonstrated by the perception of solar

3:04:32

particles the fact that these particles

3:04:34

Stay Together on the basis of this

3:04:36

contact makes a further assumption

3:04:38

necessary that the particles

3:04:40

differentiate themselves according to

3:04:41

shape and size thus they can Interlink

3:04:45

themselves firmly with one another small

3:04:47

and smooth atoms will escapee the

3:04:49

entanglement of these concentrations the

3:04:51

most easily however the cluster of

3:04:54

tightly intertwined atoms will always

3:04:56

hold the smooth atoms fast to themselves

3:05:00

and most importantly not all of the

3:05:03

emptiness between the particles will

3:05:05

ever be

3:05:06

eliminated the massive body is like the

3:05:08

pile of letters at a print shop the

3:05:11

impression of solidity is established

3:05:13

only through the smallness of the atoms

3:05:15

10 and just as the appearance of the

3:05:17

unity of things explains itself through

3:05:19

these simplest assumptions of emptiness

3:05:21

and atoms differentiated by size and

3:05:23

shape so all the qualities of these

3:05:26

appearing things result from the form

3:05:28

situation and position of these atoms

3:05:31

and all apparent changes of these

3:05:32

qualities result from the simple

3:05:34

rearrangement of these same

3:05:36

characteristics thus color for instance

3:05:40

is established by the simple

3:05:41

rearrangement of atoms and bodily weight

3:05:44

by the sheer agglomeration of the atoms

3:05:47

there is no doubt that this Theory

3:05:48

intends a consistent mechanical mode of

3:05:50

explaining natural occurrence in the

3:05:52

atomic realm one can glean the basic

3:05:55

laws of mechanics from these

3:05:56

descriptions with no particular

3:05:58

difficulty the theories of collision and

3:06:00

gravitation for instance the law of

3:06:03

causality the principles of the

3:06:05

conservation of matter and energy action

3:06:08

and reaction the law of entropy and so

3:06:11

on 11 but we will see that it is no

3:06:14

accident that the principles of such a

3:06:16

democon mechanics remain unformulated

3:06:19

furthermore it is also indisputable that

3:06:22

fruitful mechanical explanations have

3:06:24

been associated with this universal

3:06:26

theory of atomic mechanics by democratus

3:06:28

and along the entire line of the natural

3:06:30

science of the time suggestive anecdotes

3:06:33

and a plethora of very promising titles

3:06:35

testify to democratus propensity for

3:06:38

Research into the mechanical causes of

3:06:40

all

3:06:40

appearances he is supposed to have said

3:06:43

that he would rather find one single

3:06:44

causal proof for something than gain the

3:06:46

Throne of the Ian Kingdom VSS fragment

3:06:50

118 thus he turns into a researcher

3:06:53

precisely because he rejects the

3:06:55

explanation that appearances are

3:06:57

accidental if only we are able to look

3:07:00

keenly enough we can always discover a

3:07:02

compelling cause for any appearance 12

3:07:05

the successful strength of the

3:07:07

mechanical concept of causality taken

3:07:10

together with the ruthless reduction of

3:07:12

all qualitative factors to the true

3:07:14

world of atomic forms makes democritean

3:07:17

science a genuine model for the natural

3:07:19

science of modernity or so it would seem

3:07:22

however this conclusion must be examined

3:07:26

the idea that a Greek philosopher is

3:07:28

supposed to have lived out in advance

3:07:29

the ethos and methods of modern Natural

3:07:32

Science even more than the science

3:07:34

itself leaves us lacking an answer to

3:07:36

the question of what this research and

3:07:38

this knowledge Drive meant to him within

3:07:40

the whole of his philosophical worldview

3:07:43

for the Judgment of History a history

3:07:45

that for two Millennia has awarded

3:07:46

Victory to the opponents of this atomism

3:07:48

can prove nothing here admittedly it is

3:07:52

no doubt correct to say that the Bold

3:07:54

conception of this atomic theory lacked

3:07:56

the means of carrying itself out in the

3:07:58

details of research this overarching

3:08:00

mechanistic interpretation was missing

3:08:02

precise knowledge of the mechanics of

3:08:04

colliding bodies it completely lacked

3:08:06

quantitative experimentation but above

3:08:10

all it lacked a mathematics that could

3:08:12

have measured up to the abstractive

3:08:14

heights of its basic

3:08:15

assumptions but the crucial thing is

3:08:17

that it nevertheless claimed validity

3:08:20

and thus all of these observations which

3:08:22

from the standpoint of modern Natural

3:08:24

Science signify just as many inner

3:08:26

impossibilities for this Atomic physics

3:08:28

and reduce it to a kind of oddly

3:08:30

precient fantasy all of them push the

3:08:32

question concerning its basic

3:08:33

philosophical motives into the

3:08:36

foreground we will approach this

3:08:38

question through a progressive series of

3:08:40

observations one by what means do the

3:08:43

atomists prove the existence of atoms

3:08:46

the intuition that guides them is that

3:08:48

what genuinely is can never not be which

3:08:50

means of course that it persists

3:08:54

unalterably this means however that it

3:08:57

must be something that remains

3:08:58

unperturbed by the visible

3:09:00

disintegration of all nature things the

3:09:03

line of reasoning that Aristotle cites

3:09:05

13 as The crucial grounds for the idea

3:09:07

of the atom sounds mathematical or more

3:09:10

precisely by appealing to the nature of

3:09:12

the corporeal it refutes the

3:09:15

mathematical demand for a fundamentally

3:09:16

Unlimited divisibility posited by the

3:09:19

idea of a Continuum divisibility is

3:09:22

based on the void for otherwise it would

3:09:24

entail the destruction of substance

3:09:27

unlimited divisibility would therefore

3:09:29

let everything corporeal pass away into

3:09:32

the incorporeal dimensionless point-like

3:09:35

void the being of the corporeal that is

3:09:39

would be nothing other than the void in

3:09:42

truth however the corporeal is a plenum

3:09:45

that in which there is no emptiness

3:09:47

the atom of indestructible form the idea

3:09:51

of the atom is thus an ontological

3:09:53

postulate and proves to be an attempt to

3:09:55

combine the thought of being in the

3:09:56

elatic doctrine of unity with the

3:09:58

demands of our experience of nature

3:10:00

through the fact that it recognizes the

3:10:02

true being of appearances in the

3:10:03

multiplicity of invisible smaller

3:10:05

unities

3:10:07

142 the indivisibility of the atoms is

3:10:10

therefore an ontological SL physical

3:10:12

demand not a mathematical one they are

3:10:16

indivisible because they are are solid

3:10:18

that is free of the Void essentially it

3:10:22

is not their smallness that lets them be

3:10:24

indivisible they are not mathematical

3:10:26

pseudo points they have various sizes

3:10:30

indeed by itself the theory could allow

3:10:33

for atoms as big as the whole world if

3:10:35

only the experience of actual

3:10:37

appearances did not exclude it 15 it is

3:10:40

a very controversial question whether a

3:10:42

mathematical atomism a construction of

3:10:45

the Continuum of empty space from

3:10:46

extended points corresponds to this

3:10:49

physical atomism the only testimony that

3:10:52

could speak on behalf of this is the

3:10:54

famous problem of sectioning a cone by

3:10:56

parallel slices which has even been

3:10:59

interpreted as an anticipation of the

3:11:01

principle of the

3:11:02

infinitesimal 16 but for Democritus it

3:11:05

is expressly a physical problem that is

3:11:08

here too as he no doubt did in the whole

3:11:10

of his mathematics Democritus may have

3:11:12

adhered to the physical model and played

3:11:14

out its true atomic structure against

3:11:16

the intuitive demand of the Continuum

3:11:19

even authentic knowledge the knowledge

3:11:21

of what is understood which democratus

3:11:23

opposed to the inauthentic knowledge of

3:11:25

the senses was physical knowledge and

3:11:27

not ideal mathematical knowledge

3:11:31

17 three the atomists declare the number

3:11:34

of atoms to be unlimited because of the

3:11:35

unlimited manifoldness of the

3:11:37

appearances that need to be explained by

3:11:39

them this proposition allows us access

3:11:42

to the basic ideological strengths of

3:11:44

this interpretation of nature the the

3:11:47

atoms are

3:11:48

innumerable Aristotle of course explains

3:11:52

it this way in certain respects the

3:11:54

atomists like the pythagoreans made

3:11:57

everything into numbers VSS 54 a15 and

3:12:01

in fact every existing thing is a

3:12:04

multiplicity of atoms thus it is a

3:12:06

number but neither is this number being

3:12:09

the being of things nor are these

3:12:11

numbers always quantifiable and familiar

3:12:13

to us moreover the interference or

3:12:16

rearrange ment of one single atom can

3:12:18

decisively change the entire look of the

3:12:20

atomic figure 18 thus genuine knowledge

3:12:24

that gets behind sensory appearance

3:12:26

certainly acknowledges that there are no

3:12:28

accidents and that everything has its

3:12:29

reasons it just does not however

3:12:32

acknowledge these reasons themselves its

3:12:36

achievement rather is only that the

3:12:38

observation of appearances facilitates

3:12:40

the tireless Drive of the real science

3:12:42

of causality that lies within it the

3:12:45

idea that everything happens as it

3:12:46

should that everything governed by the

3:12:49

same mechanical necessity happens by

3:12:52

itself admittedly what we can know of

3:12:55

nature is always only the rough

3:12:57

connection of obvious causal connections

3:12:59

not the true mechanism of the atoms the

3:13:02

mechanism that presents the actual

3:13:04

processes 19 for thus by themselves

3:13:09

obeying the force of a movement within

3:13:11

which they already are and always have

3:13:13

been the atoms join themselves to the

3:13:16

ephemeral Unity of the bodily form and

3:13:19

just as the shapes of this world are

3:13:21

constantly forming themselves from out

3:13:23

of the atomic Force so other worlds are

3:13:25

also constantly forming themselves

3:13:27

according to the same laws admittedly we

3:13:31

know nothing at all about these worlds

3:13:33

and we can know nothing of them but they

3:13:35

are there

3:13:37

nevertheless nothing entitles us to

3:13:39

think that our world the world that we

3:13:42

know originated for a reason other than

3:13:44

the senseless mechanism of atomic events

3:13:47

but wherever atoms amass themselves this

3:13:50

mechanism must lead to World

3:13:52

formation obviously such an

3:13:54

interpretation of the world comes into

3:13:56

the strictest tension with the natural

3:13:58

experience of the world as a tangible

3:14:01

purposefully ordered Cosmos 20 as a rule

3:14:05

in this natural understanding of world

3:14:07

the holding sway of necessity presents

3:14:09

itself as the holding sway of

3:14:11

contingency precisely because they alone

3:14:14

are grounded on mechanical necessity the

3:14:16

shape of the cosmos and the cosmos of

3:14:18

the shapes that fill up the world are

3:14:20

nothing but a happy accident 21 it was

3:14:25

attic philosophy that Drew the

3:14:26

philosophical consequences of this

3:14:28

atomistic explanation of the world and

3:14:30

triumphantly demonstrated its

3:14:32

ideological velano inversion just as it

3:14:35

demonstrated its fact IAL

3:14:38

incompleteness the nature that we know

3:14:40

is not contingency producing itself out

3:14:42

of blind inevitability but a meaningful

3:14:44

living order Plato laws book x 22 and

3:14:50

furthermore 23 the explanation of nature

3:14:53

that is built upon the basic principles

3:14:55

of atomism never stops to see for

3:14:57

instance the cause of the child in the

3:15:00

father that is it never recognizes

3:15:02

nature as operative in this ordering of

3:15:04

the event of propagation itself human

3:15:07

propagation would originate by itself

3:15:10

automatically the atomists explained and

3:15:13

only from the more remote event of world

3:15:15

formation the event in which the order

3:15:17

of the heavens comes into being and from

3:15:20

the processes of inanimate nature it was

3:15:24

the great accomplishment of Aristotelian

3:15:26

philosophy of nature to have shown the

3:15:28

inner imperfection of this atomistic

3:15:30

interpretation of Nature and to have

3:15:31

found its ontological expression in the

3:15:34

proximity of the by itself and

3:15:36

contingency within the atomistic idea of

3:15:38

nature there lies a distortion of the

3:15:40

natural picture of the world oriented

3:15:42

toward the forms of things and living

3:15:44

beings and along with this distortion a

3:15:47

depletion of meaning from all events 24

3:15:51

necessity which dominates everything and

3:15:53

According to which everything occurs by

3:15:55

itself operates as the meaningless cause

3:15:58

of a nevertheless meaningful end result

3:16:00

25 the natural order but then it is

3:16:04

certainly not an originary force of

3:16:07

nature whatever originates and occurs

3:16:09

with regularity is not the work of

3:16:12

contingency that which happens against

3:16:14

the rule and the expected effect is

3:16:16

contingent

3:16:17

thus the concept of the by itself in

3:16:19

democratus the exclusive expression of

3:16:21

inescapable necessity before the

3:16:23

fundamental lawfulness of the natural

3:16:25

order gains the character of an absolute

3:16:27

cause the character that is of that

3:16:30

which leads blindly to a consequence

3:16:32

that otherwise the fundamental laws of

3:16:35

nature or conscious purpose are in the

3:16:37

habit of

3:16:38

producing this may not be a meaningful

3:16:41

definition for an investigation of

3:16:42

nature based on a consistently

3:16:44

mechanical methodology but it is The

3:16:47

Logical extension of an atomistic

3:16:48

interpretation of nature that has never

3:16:50

really relinquished its orientation

3:16:52

toward the experienced order of the

3:16:55

cosmos five the juncture at which the

3:16:58

real underlying world of the atoms and

3:17:00

the world of the natural experience come

3:17:02

together lies in sense perception the

3:17:05

reality of the appearance of unitary

3:17:07

forms and qualitative differences

3:17:09

substantiates itself as does the

3:17:11

supposition of atoms in the atomistic

3:17:14

interpretation of sensory perception

3:17:17

here we find the doctrine of primary and

3:17:19

secondary qualities that is so crucial

3:17:21

for modern philosophy and its attitude

3:17:23

toward Natural Science the basic

3:17:26

Assumption of the absolute reality of

3:17:28

atoms and their movement through the

3:17:29

void allows the content of sensory

3:17:31

perception to be considered only as

3:17:34

appearance but at the same time this

3:17:37

appearance is what is true as it shows

3:17:39

itself the subjectivity of the

3:17:41

sensations has its true ground in the

3:17:44

true being of reality the ad atoms in

3:17:48

the innumerable throng of atoms that

3:17:49

composes a corporeal appearance all of

3:17:52

the atomic forms and figurations are

3:17:54

really found in that which leads to the

3:17:56

changing and subjectively various

3:17:58

Sensations the same wine tastes sweet to

3:18:01

one person and dry to another because

3:18:03

the one person is actually receptive to

3:18:05

and pervious to this Atomic form and the

3:18:07

other person to that one genuine

3:18:10

perception ESS therefore always allows

3:18:13

us to assume the sole reality of the

3:18:15

atoms and the void in all apparent sense

3:18:18

data obviously we do determine the size

3:18:21

shape and location of atoms in that we

3:18:24

analogically translate the mechanical

3:18:26

properties of the things known from our

3:18:27

sense experience back to the atoms and

3:18:30

any real investigation of causes in the

3:18:33

field of Natural Science happens

3:18:35

completely within the coarser

3:18:36

conspicuousness of the shapes of things

3:18:38

as they appear democratus therefore can

3:18:42

supplement his critical delimitation of

3:18:44

the truth of sense perception by

3:18:46

counterposing using the criticism of the

3:18:47

senses to the action of the

3:18:49

understanding miserable understanding

3:18:52

you take your evidence from us and want

3:18:54

to defeat us with it your Triumph is

3:18:56

your downfall

3:18:58

26 the skepticism of late Antiquity was

3:19:01

therefore not all that mistaken when in

3:19:04

phrases like that we cannot recognize

3:19:06

how each thing in truth is constituted

3:19:09

27 it found the senses and the

3:19:11

understanding bewildered in the same way

3:19:14

and we comprehend from the skeptical

3:19:15

resignation of of this democritean

3:19:17

Atomic science that Aristotle commits no

3:19:20

mere Folly when over against the

3:19:22

atomistic interpretation of the

3:19:23

qualitative changes in nature he refers

3:19:26

at one point to sensory experience which

3:19:29

sees a whole changing itself as a whole

3:19:32

284 of course the processes of the

3:19:35

transposition of atoms by means of which

3:19:38

democratus explains changes are supposed

3:19:41

to be precisely invisible Aristotle is

3:19:44

nevertheless quite right the inter ative

3:19:47

description of the processes of nature

3:19:49

themselves as we initially experience

3:19:51

them with our senses imposes upon us

3:19:54

different ways of apprehending events in

3:19:56

their entirety in contrast to the

3:19:59

Assumption of the atoms and their

3:20:00

summative arithmetic figuration these

3:20:03

modes of apprehension constitute the

3:20:05

true metaphysics of nature for it is not

3:20:09

isolated particles indifferent to one

3:20:11

another joining together or reordering

3:20:14

themselves that are the primary being of

3:20:16

reality but rather forms just alen and

3:20:19

these forms do not just spring out of

3:20:21

the dice Shaker of

3:20:23

contingency they and not the atomic or

3:20:25

forms 29 constitute the controlling

3:20:27

Unity of the processes that we want to

3:20:30

explain six from the perspective of

3:20:33

modern mechanical natural science which

3:20:36

with its methodical Consciousness

3:20:38

restricts the concept of nature to the

3:20:40

Civil 30 in the mathematical sense of

3:20:42

the word and therefore knows that it

3:20:44

pays for each Advance toward precise

3:20:46

knowledge with the increasing

3:20:47

impoverishment of every Advance it makes

3:20:49

toward the nature of the object of its

3:20:51

knowledge democratus admittedly attains

3:20:53

the honorary rank of an early precursor

3:20:55

and from the perspective of Aristotle's

3:20:57

final unitary worldview the intuition

3:21:01

appears as a paralyzing

3:21:03

dogmatism on the other hand whoever pays

3:21:06

attention to the ideological forces that

3:21:08

are operative in various places

3:21:10

recognizes in Aristotle's vision of the

3:21:12

world the Magnificent attempt through a

3:21:14

reformulation of the most ancient truth

3:21:17

to banish the explanation that from

3:21:19

democratus on led to the most extreme

3:21:22

dissolution of all comat and form

3:21:24

developing forces a glimpse into the

3:21:27

ethical fragments of democratus which

3:21:30

admittedly we must liberate from much

3:21:32

later embellishment would confirm that

3:21:35

we have correctly combined the

3:21:36

ideological foundations of his

3:21:38

prodigious research energy with the

3:21:40

basic idea of his atomic theory the

3:21:43

encompassing Horizon of Greek common

3:21:45

sense as Plato and Aristotle sought to

3:21:47

reproduce it in a later time is no

3:21:50

longer the sustaining certainty of this

3:21:52

icy intellect seven the counterforce

3:21:56

that works itself out in Aristotle's

3:21:58

view of the world is a platonic origin

3:22:01

it is not without reason that we have

3:22:02

characterized the whole literary work of

3:22:04

Plato as one single great dialogue with

3:22:07

Democritus and the ancient anecdote that

3:22:09

Plato wanted to burn the democritean

3:22:11

writings and that he only refrained from

3:22:13

doing it because the texts were already

3:22:15

in too many hands is not without deeper

3:22:17

symbolic value but was not Plato himself

3:22:21

right alongside democratus and of no

3:22:23

less historical effect than him the

3:22:25

creator of an atomistic theory of matter

3:22:27

and elements does his inimitable

3:22:29

greatness not lie precisely in the fact

3:22:33

that he himself embraced this truth of

3:22:35

modernity in fact the most modern

3:22:38

Natural Science came to recognize basic

3:22:40

anticipations of its own discoveries in

3:22:42

Plato no less than in

3:22:44

democratus 31 it would be going too far

3:22:47

to show in detail which deep instincts

3:22:49

the exploration of ancient natural

3:22:51

philosophy as measured against the

3:22:53

standard of Natural Science followed

3:22:55

when in spite of this it saw the true

3:22:58

ancient precursor of natural science not

3:23:00

in Plato but rather in

3:23:02

democratus the transformation that the

3:23:04

democritean idea of the atom undergoes

3:23:06

in the Mythos of the timus May indicate

3:23:08

what the mechanical natural science of

3:23:10

modernity admits about itself when it

3:23:12

feels more deeply bound to democritean

3:23:14

atomism than to platonic

3:23:17

Plato's ultimate Elementary unities out

3:23:20

of which he thinks the material of the

3:23:22

world is constituted and only this

3:23:24

material not the world order itself are

3:23:27

triangles the triangle however is the

3:23:31

simplest figure into which

3:23:32

three-dimensional mathematical figures

3:23:34

are divisible the Assumption of the

3:23:37

indivisibility of ultimate Atomic

3:23:39

triangles is thus based on an identic

3:23:41

indivisibility for indivisibility is the

3:23:44

essence of the triangle in the sense

3:23:46

that no simpler figure results from it

3:23:48

through further division Plato's atoms

3:23:51

are not ultimate realities withstanding

3:23:53

the disintegration of a parent forms the

3:23:55

destruction of all formal unities they

3:23:58

are the primordial forms of the

3:23:59

corporeal itself 32 and they are not

3:24:03

accidental figures that originate by

3:24:05

joining together but regular platonic

3:24:08

bodies the atomic triangles are not the

3:24:10

final reality of a possible

3:24:12

fragmentation of corporeality but the

3:24:14

original building blocks of that which

3:24:16

is well ordered they accomplish not a

3:24:19

dissolution of all visible forms but

3:24:21

rather the intuitive subdivision of the

3:24:23

system of laws for that which is

3:24:25

extended this is why there is no void in

3:24:27

the platonic world of atoms the

3:24:30

mechanics of the atomic structure of

3:24:32

matter have the character of a

3:24:33

mathematical synthesis and not that of

3:24:35

an anomalous inevitable event in this

3:24:38

radical transformation of the democr

3:24:40

concept of the atom we can fathom the

3:24:43

effective energy in Plato that forces

3:24:45

the explanation of GRE Natural Science

3:24:47

once again under the fundamental law of

3:24:50

the helenic interpretation of

3:24:52

existence what is supposed to explain

3:24:54

the true nature of reality for

3:24:56

democratus the blind necessity of the

3:24:58

inextricable atomic event Finds Its

3:25:00

limited Authority in a double

3:25:02

transformation in the Mythic World

3:25:03

creation of the timus that the world is

3:25:07

is an act of construction according to a

3:25:09

Divine

3:25:10

mathematics that there are in this world

3:25:12

anomalous and imperfect things that

3:25:14

Earthly events lack the pure Perfection

3:25:16

of the cosmic structure this is the

3:25:18

power of the blind force of the

3:25:20

materiality that forms itself out of

3:25:22

atoms but even this atomistic formation

3:25:25

of material reveals a mathematical

3:25:28

preformation the law of form and number

3:25:30

still holds sway even in the IND

3:25:33

discernible this mathematics of what is

3:25:35

material is no more the result of a

3:25:37

measuring and calculating analysis than

3:25:39

is the mathematics that thoroughly

3:25:41

orders the visible proportions of

3:25:42

worldly bodies it adapts itself to the

3:25:45

basic plan according which the world is

3:25:48

described and if human existence has its

3:25:51

definitive place in this plan then at

3:25:53

the same time the law of the world

3:25:56

establishes the law of the human reality

3:25:58

of civil Community this plan turns into

3:26:01

an order that counters all the

3:26:02

dissolving powers of the exhausted State

3:26:05

spirit with the resistance of a new

3:26:06

cosmic dignity thus our insights into

3:26:09

the philosophical motives of ancient

3:26:11

atomism confirm themselves in the

3:26:13

contrasting image of this mythical

3:26:15

founding of world and state it would

3:26:17

require a separate presentation to show

3:26:20

how on the basis of this platonic idea

3:26:22

of the world Aristotle became a Critic

3:26:25

of not just democon but platonic atomism

3:26:28

as well we would recognize that this

3:26:30

criticism of Plato's perception of

3:26:32

nature decisive for 2,000 years has

3:26:36

remained steadfast but not its civil

3:26:38

passion which meant binding the

3:26:40

effective forces of antagonistic dangers

3:26:42

to it instead of eliminating them when

3:26:45

later histor torical research misapplied

3:26:47

the self-certainty of the modern idea of

3:26:49

science looking past the platonic

3:26:52

Aristotelian ideas of nature to see the

3:26:54

precursor of modern Natural Science in

3:26:56

democratus it did not just commit a

3:26:59

mistake of historical knowledge in the

3:27:01

unquestioned validity of the standard of

3:27:03

modern Natural Science a renunciation of

3:27:05

philosophy in the higher sense revealed

3:27:08

itself

3:27:10

101 four Plato and presocratic

3:27:15

cosmology

3:27:16

ccrp tradition of Socrates is

3:27:19

constituted in such a way that it I is

3:27:21

beyond all hope that the historian could

3:27:23

reach a reliable conclusion from it with

3:27:26

this observation helmet opens his

3:27:28

1934 afterward justifying his portrayal

3:27:31

of Socrates one he then refers to the

3:27:34

concept of primordial history developed

3:27:36

by France overbeck in order to establish

3:27:39

that he seeks not to reconstruct the

3:27:40

historical Socrates from the disperate

3:27:42

accounts of a variated tradition but

3:27:45

rather to experence

3:27:47

Socrates in his effect on Plato and the

3:27:49

origin of Western metaphysics and thus

3:27:52

to encounter Socrates not at all in his

3:27:54

historiographical contingency but in his

3:27:56

historical reality as I have tried to

3:27:59

show elsewhere to what happened in the

3:28:02

transformation of the task of knowledge

3:28:04

in the unique case of Socrates can be

3:28:06

justified in its General and principal

3:28:08

meaning it is quite certain however that

3:28:12

such historical realities realities that

3:28:14

fall into the category of beginning gain

3:28:17

their determination only from the result

3:28:19

and the end cun's above mentioned

3:28:22

statement then can be applied without

3:28:25

any modification especially to the

3:28:26

beginning of Western philosophy in the

3:28:29

early Greeks what these earliest

3:28:32

thinkers were thinkers whom we know by

3:28:34

the names of thals anaximander and

3:28:37

anaxim mein cannot be unambiguously

3:28:40

reconstructed either from the older or

3:28:42

the more recent tradition thus the

3:28:43

picture of the scholarship and its

3:28:45

progress is essentially one in which a

3:28:47

supposed certainty crumbles repeatedly

3:28:49

and the degree of uncertainty grows and

3:28:52

even though we possess allbe it from a

3:28:54

slightly later time a considerable

3:28:57

portion of parmen dactic poem and a

3:28:59

series of unambiguously original

3:29:01

statements from heraclitus for all that

3:29:04

these FS themselves flow in a disturbing

3:29:06

darkness of uncertainty as does for

3:29:10

instance the Pythagoras problem or the

3:29:12

orphic problem with which every

3:29:14

well-educated person is familiar

3:29:16

and as this Darkness slowly lightens in

3:29:19

the fifth century idals an aoras and

3:29:22

democratus obtain a reliable outline for

3:29:25

us so that with regard to the whole of

3:29:27

the presocratic tradition we are still

3:29:29

undoubtedly in the same situation that

3:29:31

holds for the problem of Socrates Plato

3:29:34

with his dialogues and Aristotle with

3:29:37

his lecture notes the two figures who

3:29:39

begin the literary tradition of Greek

3:29:41

Philosophy for us have so saturated and

3:29:44

shaped the entire prec IC tradition that

3:29:47

is accessible to us that we at the very

3:29:50

height of historical critique and with

3:29:52

all of its tools hardly have a Viewpoint

3:29:55

from which to discern anything with

3:29:56

certainty other than the picture of this

3:29:58

history impressed Upon Us by Plato and

3:30:01

above all by

3:30:03

Aristotle from this point on whatever

3:30:06

there is of a completely uninfluenced

3:30:07

tradition can hardly be isolated perhaps

3:30:10

at best we could mention here the large

3:30:12

excerpt from parity's dactic poem yet

3:30:15

even this transcrip destion which was

3:30:17

acquired Faithfully by simplicius is a

3:30:20

choice and like every choice it is

3:30:23

influenced and it has

3:30:24

influence nevertheless it would be

3:30:27

misguided even here to believe that we

3:30:29

need to content ourselves with this and

3:30:31

to believe that no other Avenue of

3:30:33

Investigation stands more open to us

3:30:36

even here by going back to infer the

3:30:38

effect that they had on their

3:30:39

progenitors that is from the way that

3:30:42

Plato and Aristotle explicitly or

3:30:44

implicitly mirror the Socratic tradition

3:30:47

there exists the possibility of learning

3:30:49

something about what these first

3:30:51

thinkers were there is of course an

3:30:54

initial critical Insight that cannot be

3:30:57

circumvented namely that we must not

3:30:59

only reject the belief in the interpreta

3:31:02

Arista for which theophrastus and the

3:31:04

doxography laid the ground but that just

3:31:08

as vehemently we must also reject the

3:31:10

one interpretatio that in spite of all

3:31:13

the anti-ag alienism of the historical

3:31:16

School governs the collected historical

3:31:18

and phological thought of the moderns

3:31:20

which I like to call the interpreto

3:31:23

heana this interpretation self-evident

3:31:26

presupposition is certainly not as it is

3:31:28

in Hegel the total comprehensibility of

3:31:31

history from the perspective if it's

3:31:32

inner logic but this much is also

3:31:34

certain about this presupposition that

3:31:37

the individual thinkers and their

3:31:38

teachers refer to one another surpass

3:31:41

criticize and struggle with one another

3:31:44

in such a way that the dialogue of the

3:31:46

tradition is ordered by a logically

3:31:48

intelligible

3:31:49

context this may be generally true the

3:31:52

above presupposition may not be in order

3:31:54

where a tradition can generally be

3:31:56

acquired only from the testimony of

3:31:58

those who came later as in the case of

3:32:00

the presocratic we do not know for

3:32:04

example if parmin was even acquainted

3:32:06

with heraclitus we do not know what the

3:32:09

milon school looked like whether the

3:32:12

received diaa 3 is anything more than a

3:32:14

later concoction we do not know who

3:32:17

Pythagoras really was and above all the

3:32:21

platonic ordering hardly observes the

3:32:23

temporal succession of the earlier

3:32:25

thinkers any more than the Aristotelian

3:32:27

one does and it arranges them according

3:32:29

to their systematic

3:32:31

viewpoints given the disposition of this

3:32:33

tradition then it would mean

3:32:35

overestimating what it is possible to

3:32:37

know if we were to try to reconstruct a

3:32:39

historical succession and if we were to

3:32:41

attempt to differentiate the individual

3:32:43

thinkers and their doctrines and to

3:32:45

derive them them from one another as has

3:32:47

generally been the case it seems to me

3:32:50

that the reverse task has been posed and

3:32:53

right now the latest research in this

3:32:54

field confirms it only the common

3:32:57

motives and problems that unite them all

3:32:59

promise an entry into these Beginnings

3:33:01

that touches upon their reality the way

3:33:04

that Plato sees his predecessors

3:33:05

fulfills this task best of all for with

3:33:09

the lone exception of the eleatics he

3:33:12

saw them all as a unit and christened

3:33:14

them with a single name the herac like

3:33:16

for it is obvious that this way of

3:33:17

conceiving the tradition is an

3:33:19

antithetical development that its real

3:33:21

motive is the positive appropriation of

3:33:23

the elatic thought of being through the

3:33:25

doctrine of the ideas thus the effective

3:33:28

History of elatic Thought will always be

3:33:31

an essential entryway into the elatic

3:33:33

doctrine and Plato stands at the cusp of

3:33:36

it five working against this on the

3:33:39

other hand is the subject matter of the

3:33:41

lonians who blend in with heraclitus and

3:33:44

those who came later precisely because

3:33:46

of the elatic antithesis into which

3:33:48

Plato pushes them conversely if we now

3:33:52

wanted to lean on Aristotle for our view

3:33:54

of the lonians the man who relegated

3:33:56

elatic philosophy to The Fringe because

3:33:58

of his disagreement about Kinesis and

3:34:00

regarded ionian philosophy of nature

3:34:03

positively we would Overlook how much

3:34:05

anti pythagoreanism and anti platonism

3:34:08

there is in the prehistory of

3:34:09

Aristotle's metaphysics which is

3:34:11

essentially a physics as helmet

3:34:14

correctly worked out in in his book on

3:34:16

Socrates it really is the case that in

3:34:19

his effect on Plato Socrates represents

3:34:22

the origin of metaphysics even if in

3:34:25

Plato metaphysics is the same thing as

3:34:27

physics but precisely what makes Plato

3:34:30

an incomparable witness to the

3:34:31

beginnings of philosophy is that he had

3:34:33

achieved his own Doctrine in the

3:34:35

socratic renunciation of this older

3:34:37

tradition or better in his conscious

3:34:40

response to this tradition to understand

3:34:43

his philosophy as an answer means to

3:34:45

arrive at the question that was raised

3:34:46

with the early beginnings of Greek

3:34:49

philosophy there is no more concise no

3:34:52

more immediate hermeneutic possibility

3:34:54

than the one that opens itself here the

3:34:56

question here is not one of the

3:34:58

plausibility of witnesses or of

3:35:00

conscious interpretations and depictions

3:35:03

but rather The Peculiar possibilities of

3:35:05

platonic thinking what were the

3:35:07

presocratic more particularly what were

3:35:10

the lonians if Plato could situate them

3:35:12

over against his Socrates in this way if

3:35:15

we start here then the timia steps into

3:35:17

the spotlight its multi-layered hole

3:35:21

which looks only as far back as its own

3:35:23

task demands expresses something more

3:35:25

immediate about the presocratic than

3:35:27

those most highly suggestive

3:35:29

retrospectives on the earlier

3:35:30

philosophers that we find in the fedo

3:35:32

the Theus or the sophist and whose

3:35:35

particulars we certainly should not

3:35:37

neglect six in its proper existence and

3:35:41

Essence s the timus is perhaps not just

3:35:44

a great dialogue with de Rus as many

3:35:47

have interpreted it at but taken on its

3:35:50

own terms it is rather a historical

3:35:53

point of entry into earlier thinking as

3:35:55

a whole as we know in so far as he

3:35:58

refers to the platonic dialogue eel

3:36:01

Works in his metaphysics Aristotle has

3:36:03

the timus chiefly in mind and in all of

3:36:06

his critiques of Plato we find the idea

3:36:09

that Plato explained the participation

3:36:11

of phenomena in the ideas by means of

3:36:13

empty metaphors empty metaphors that is

3:36:15

is drawn from the domain of techne for

3:36:18

something which is not grounded in

3:36:19

techne yet in his doctrine of the four

3:36:22

causes Aristotle himself follows the

3:36:25

model of techne in order to grasp

3:36:27

conceptually what a fyson is the timus

3:36:30

is certainly not a platonic physics

3:36:32

carot to which the Aristotelian physics

3:36:34

corresponds and follows for the timus is

3:36:37

a Mythos a story that does not demand

3:36:40

The credibility and truth of a logos but

3:36:44

like all platonic myth

3:36:46

these are not fables foreign to the

3:36:47

logos foreign to knowledge but rather an

3:36:50

imaginative projection from out of what

3:36:52

is known within the logos since the

3:36:55

intelligible being of the idos is

3:36:57

supposed to determine what is visible

3:36:59

outside the domain of the producible PLO

3:37:01

tries to say what the idos is by way of

3:37:04

production indeed it appears to have

3:37:06

been a controversial question among the

3:37:08

platonists whether the Fabrica om Mundi

3:37:11

that the timus recounts actually meant

3:37:13

that the world came into being or

3:37:14

whether because of its didacticism it is

3:37:17

to be interpreted as a mathematical

3:37:20

construct n Aristotle himself alludes to

3:37:23

this and procas reports on the details

3:37:26

What suggests again and again that we

3:37:28

are not to understand the production of

3:37:30

the world literally is the timus

3:37:32

asterisk doctrine that a world order

3:37:34

structured in this way will be Eternal

3:37:37

the Aristotelian argument against

3:37:39

anything having become Eternal is so

3:37:40

close to and agrees so compellingly with

3:37:42

Plato himself that we find ourselves

3:37:45

directed toward the mythical character

3:37:46

of The timus

3:37:48

Narrative obviously what is specifically

3:37:51

mythical in this bold and unprecedented

3:37:53

story is the idea that this world was

3:37:55

made and not that it came into being it

3:37:58

is not just the Aristotelian polemic

3:38:00

that clearly presupposed that Notions of

3:38:02

having come into being were prevalent

3:38:04

among the Ancients this also appears for

3:38:07

instance in the critical slon depictions

3:38:10

of the genealogical fairy tales that we

3:38:12

find in the sophist IQ their can be no

3:38:16

doubt therefore that our account of the

3:38:18

cosmogenic a doctrine of the lonians

3:38:21

especially that of anaxim Mander

3:38:23

contains something that is correct

3:38:26

nevertheless a glance at the timus for

3:38:28

the meaning of these cosmogonies is

3:38:30

quite

3:38:31

informative in fact they clearly

3:38:34

culminate in the derivation of an

3:38:35

existing Cosmic order that holds itself

3:38:38

in a spontaneous balance in exactly the

3:38:40

same way that The Artful production of

3:38:42

the world order by the Demi urges of the

3:38:44

timus depicts the ENT order as a

3:38:46

persistent integrated formation of

3:38:48

mathematical harmonies in a reality that

3:38:50

is not free of

3:38:52

oppositions there can be no doubt the

3:38:54

cosmog of early thought was intended for

3:38:57

the sake of

3:38:58

cosmology we can now definitely say that

3:39:00

all cosmog is recounted for the sake of

3:39:03

cosmology it is of the essence of the

3:39:06

matter that the story told about the

3:39:07

world is the story of what exists now in

3:39:10

all its imposing order and

3:39:12

regularity even the religious

3:39:14

cosmogonies the orphic the Babylonian

3:39:17

the Egyptian have this

3:39:18

connotation it therefore makes a crucial

3:39:21

difference whether a cosmogonical tale

3:39:23

tells us much about its Wonders by

3:39:25

starting from an egg or from arrows or

3:39:28

from night inuitive models for The

3:39:29

Wonder of becoming or whether such Tales

3:39:32

completely and thoroughly dominated and

3:39:34

determined by the intuition of a prefect

3:39:36

end explain the becoming of This World

3:39:39

by means of the same forces and

3:39:40

processes that visibly control and

3:39:42

constitute them yoal

3:39:45

who delved into the influence of the

3:39:47

Oriental myths 11 rightly raises the

3:39:50

point that Hesed after all tells us

3:39:53

nothing intuitive about the primordial

3:39:55

conditions very much in contrast to the

3:39:57

Eastern origin stories The Poets

3:40:00

occupied themselves not with how the

3:40:02

world originated but rather with how it

3:40:05

is arranged

3:40:07

401 I mean that in a sharper analysis of

3:40:10

its meaning the old question of whether

3:40:13

cosmology or cosmog stands at the

3:40:15

beginning of Greek philosophizing

3:40:17

cancels itself out and it is precisely

3:40:19

the timus that shows the

3:40:21

inappropriateness of this line of

3:40:23

questioning for example in the accounts

3:40:26

of anaximander we repeatedly run into a

3:40:28

contradiction that posits the idea of

3:40:30

the ayon on the one hand as that of a

3:40:33

beginning out of which whatever is

3:40:35

opposed excludes itself and on the other

3:40:38

hand as the grand balanced order in

3:40:40

which oppositions are controlled and

3:40:42

connected so that even with the best

3:40:45

intentions we cannot find fault with

3:40:47

Aristotle when he asks why the world

3:40:49

needed to be one of an endless supply of

3:40:51

created worlds if one that is so well

3:40:54

balanced in its oppositions or even a

3:40:56

succession of such worlds that displace

3:40:58

one another can be formed from one and

3:41:00

the same mass thus it seems to me that

3:41:03

this contradiction which to this day

3:41:05

leaves the interpretation defenseless

3:41:07

cannot be seen as much different

3:41:09

logically speaking from the created

3:41:12

eternity depicted in the timus it is C

3:41:15

certainly not accidental that in

3:41:17

anaximander whose well-ordered

3:41:19

Constitution stands confidently in the

3:41:21

center of his Doctrine the question of

3:41:23

the dissolution of the world remains

3:41:25

obscure was there such a dissolution at

3:41:28

all or is it like in the timus and must

3:41:31

we not then look upon the many worlds

3:41:34

tradition differently inspired by the

3:41:37

timus once again must we not test the

3:41:39

whole question a new but of course this

3:41:43

is why the reliably report Ed doctrine

3:41:45

of the multiplicity of Worlds is

3:41:47

generally thought to refer to temporal

3:41:49

succession in such a way that it gives

3:41:51

rise to fatal contradictions because

3:41:54

they considered coexistence too

3:41:55

monstrous a thing it was contemplated

3:41:58

only in the extreme atomism of the late

3:42:00

fifth century which had confidence in

3:42:02

the transgression of all possible

3:42:04

experiences and

3:42:06

intuitions 12 but let us test this

3:42:09

Doctrine against the account in the

3:42:11

timus 13 they the doctrine of the many

3:42:13

or even the innumerably many

3:42:15

ayro kosmo or aano encounters an

3:42:19

explicit repudiation and indeed prepares

3:42:22

for these difficulties with an argument

3:42:25

evidently the platonic schema of

3:42:27

replicating according to a model katat

3:42:29

to parade Demar menos 31-2 has to

3:42:33

demonstrate the uniqueness of the world

3:42:36

though not quite as easily as Aristotle

3:42:38

does Aristotle could rely on the idea of

3:42:41

all matter being used up while Plato

3:42:43

must first prove the singular ity of

3:42:45

this world of ours in another way timus

3:42:49

33a his argument from replicating

3:42:51

According to the pattern of the most

3:42:53

perfect of all the living being that

3:42:55

encompasses all living things pantus Zan

3:42:59

31 B1 is completely

3:43:02

problematic there is still no mention of

3:43:04

matter here Plato wants rather to

3:43:08

demonstrate the uniqueness of our world

3:43:10

from Pure ideas that is from essential

3:43:13

relations the uniqueness in the model

3:43:16

the idea of a living being that

3:43:18

encompasses all living beings logically

3:43:20

derives from the idea of the model in

3:43:22

the familiar way 14 that is that a

3:43:25

second model would make necessary the

3:43:27

regress to a one that encompasses both

3:43:30

this may be clear but it is all the more

3:43:33

complicated now that the copy is

3:43:35

supposed to be solely that which is one

3:43:37

as well yet it belongs precisely to the

3:43:40

essential structure of the copy and of

3:43:42

the imitation that many imitations of a

3:43:44

model are Poss ible what is a

3:43:46

resemblance Katen monos 15 B2 really

3:43:50

supposed to mean or better yet if the

3:43:54

production of the visible World in view

3:43:56

of the one model is supposed to make the

3:43:58

question of many worlds answerable must

3:44:00

we not conclude from this that the

3:44:02

question did not seem answerable to

3:44:04

Plato without his mythical story of the

3:44:06

Demi urges and even though the their

3:44:09

names are nowhere mentioned by him

3:44:11

should it not really be just lpus and

3:44:13

democratus who are intended here what is

3:44:16

it then that produces the techne model

3:44:19

employed for this argument evidently it

3:44:22

is this that the idea of the whole that

3:44:25

which is encompassed as the unity that

3:44:27

everything is is first thought in

3:44:28

anticipation of the whole this agrees

3:44:31

completely with the mode of

3:44:32

argumentation in the fedo where the

3:44:35

introduction of a certain hypothesis of

3:44:37

the idos is demonstrated in the example

3:44:39

of the two I underscore the two which

3:44:41

originates neither from joining together

3:44:43

nor from separation but rather is the

3:44:45

unity of the two if as Harry Bert boder

3:44:48

16 plausibly states it is correct to say

3:44:51

that the early lonians called the whole

3:44:53

into which they inquired tap panta then

3:44:56

this nomenclature already expresses an

3:44:58

insufficient understanding of unity an

3:45:01

understanding that was tied to the idea

3:45:02

of that which encompasses everything it

3:45:05

is evident that the idea of the ayon as

3:45:08

the Limitless expansion of being an

3:45:09

expansion that never comes to an end

3:45:11

precisely leaves the idea of the one the

3:45:14

whole unexpressed and certainly anyone

3:45:18

who does not seek to defend a

3:45:19

preconceived thesis will probably

3:45:22

understand the anaxim mandrian phrase in

3:45:24

this spatial sense thus the testimony of

3:45:27

the timia seems to betray a fundamental

3:45:30

deficiency among the physico from outset

3:45:32

admittedly xenophanes and parids do not

3:45:35

belong to this list but the fact that

3:45:37

Plato considers the elatic the

3:45:39

precursors of his doctrine of ideas does

3:45:41

apply to them and thus it seems to

3:45:44

testify indirect ly to the intuition

3:45:46

followed by the first lonians the idea

3:45:48

of the from itself that characterizes

3:45:50

the origination and continued existence

3:45:52

of our world this may not have a radical

3:45:55

meaning approaching that of the

3:45:57

atomistic

3:45:58

cosmog but does not the idea of the

3:46:00

Limitless as the Archie the idea of a

3:46:03

condition of being that exists as an

3:46:05

inexhaustible Supply in advance of all

3:46:07

World becoming suggests the idea of many

3:46:10

worlds that exclude themselves from out

3:46:12

of this Archie and that even if they do

3:46:14

the this one after another they do it in

3:46:17

such a way that each one as a

3:46:19

self-contained structure would have

3:46:21

permanence and so exist next to the

3:46:23

others would this really be

3:46:25

impossible is this not in fact necessary

3:46:29

if we want to think the doctrine of the

3:46:31

Limitless together with the doctrine of

3:46:33

the balance of opposites at all was

3:46:36

anaximander not also hazarding an

3:46:38

unprecedented and audacious idea when

3:46:41

instead of the Divinity of the homeric

3:46:42

or

3:46:43

hesticles the Divinity of Limitless

3:46:46

being in regard to this a central motif

3:46:49

of earlier thought once again dating

3:46:51

from the time of Plato now appears the

3:46:54

attempt to explain the situation of the

3:46:56

Earth at the center of the universe

3:46:58

without the help of the mythological

3:46:59

figure of Atlas this emerges in Plato as

3:47:02

he distances himself critically from the

3:47:05

earlier thinkers who adopt a new Atlas

3:47:07

in the form of air turbulence or a

3:47:08

cushion of air upon which to situate the

3:47:10

Earth and as he himself completely

3:47:13

avoiding all of this wants to arrive at

3:47:16

his explanation entirely from the idea

3:47:18

of the good fed

3:47:20

99c how he imagines this however is

3:47:24

expressed most clearly by the Mythos of

3:47:26

the fed 108e the homot 17 of the heavens

3:47:30

their isaria carrot would suffice to

3:47:32

keep the Earth in the middle without

3:47:34

tilting admittedly this is a semi-

3:47:37

mythical description once again

3:47:39

resonating with more of a Pythagorean

3:47:41

tone of Ideal geometrical symmetry than

3:47:43

a dynamic balancing

3:47:45

relationship but this is especially

3:47:48

instructive for later in Aristotle we

3:47:50

read something similar that surely

3:47:52

refers to anaximander because of homot

3:47:56

that which has its seat in the middle

3:47:57

will remain in its place vssa

3:48:00

26 of course as amazingly enough Charles

3:48:05

KH suggests 19 we can trace this

3:48:08

Aristotle citation back though with

3:48:10

difficulty to the authority of at least

3:48:12

hippitus who argues in an entirely GE

3:48:14

geometrical way ultimately however such

3:48:18

a geometrical teleology probably only

3:48:21

fits a spherical conception of the earth

3:48:23

like we find in the fedo there however

3:48:27

we have the most unambiguous testimony

3:48:29

for anaximander ascribing to the Earth

3:48:31

the shape of a truncated column just as

3:48:34

hippitus himself reports in the

3:48:36

doxography VSA

3:48:38

25 it can only be one or the other

3:48:42

instead we will have to seek another

3:48:44

originary meaning in the hosis thesis

3:48:46

besides the geometrical one that

3:48:48

Aristotle wanted to find in anaxim

3:48:50

Mander but this could only have been an

3:48:53

idea of balance like the kind Plato

3:48:55

criticized as being the invention of a

3:48:57

new Atlas perhaps a cushion of air like

3:48:59

in anaxim Mander

3:49:01

a20 in point of fact with the exception

3:49:04

of anaxim mander's flat truncated column

3:49:08

I now believe this to have been an

3:49:09

original motif of ionian cosmology a

3:49:12

further demonstration of which can be

3:49:14

seen in thals the only thing we know for

3:49:17

certain about theales is that among

3:49:20

other things he also altered his

3:49:22

doctrine of water so that the Earth

3:49:24

would float on the water like a piece of

3:49:26

wood we can trust this report as

3:49:28

authentic because Aristotle criticizes

3:49:31

it as if we were not then left with the

3:49:33

same problem of how the water that

3:49:34

carries the Earth oo anus 20 would keep

3:49:39

from sinking out of its own place

3:49:42

apparently what is shown to us here is

3:49:45

that this particular homot is based upon

3:49:47

Aristotle's separation of the lonians

3:49:49

from the theologians it is an

3:49:51

observation referring to theales as if

3:49:53

it had referred to a proof W floats on

3:49:55

the water in such a way that the water

3:49:57

always drives it as it were toward the

3:50:01

surface what we call water displacement

3:50:03

was apparently thought of as an amazing

3:50:05

natural phenomenon of balancing that is

3:50:08

not the homot of similar geometrical

3:50:11

spaces but probably as the fedo actually

3:50:14

says as well isaria and anasis 21 as it

3:50:19

is called in the doxography of an aamin

3:50:21

an aigor and democratus

3:50:24

a20 anaxa means it seems needed a no

3:50:28

less ingenious apodis for his air

3:50:30

cushion the water in a water clock thus

3:50:34

behind the critique and behind Plato's

3:50:36

Pythagorean theology we grasp something

3:50:38

of a universal cosmological Motif for

3:50:41

the lonians in his own mythical argument

3:50:44

from SIM

3:50:45

Plato still lets something of the

3:50:47

Ancients shine through when he speaks of

3:50:49

isaria in truth his own theological

3:50:53

identic cosmology Demands a purely

3:50:55

geometrical argument instead of a new

3:50:57

Atlas the self-containment of the whole

3:51:00

was to be thought as the examples we

3:51:03

have followed through show the

3:51:04

underlying methodological idea that

3:51:06

guides us is the fact that the platonic

3:51:08

answer made the Reconstruction of the

3:51:10

question posed by presocratic thinking

3:51:12

possible the fact that the adequate

3:51:14

conceptuality that determines all of our

3:51:17

testimony from Aristotle on was not yet

3:51:19

available to them from the same

3:51:21

methodological Viewpoint what Plato

3:51:24

carries out regarding the concept of the

3:51:26

psyche in explicit Counterpoint to the

3:51:28

presocratic tradition is also highly

3:51:30

suggestive the graduated path of

3:51:33

argumentation that the platonic fedo

3:51:35

carries out culminates in the proof of

3:51:37

immortality based on the idos of life it

3:51:40

is the general insight into identic

3:51:42

classes that parallels the

3:51:43

incompatibility of the psyche and death

3:51:45

with the incompatibility of heat and

3:51:47

snow a remarkable argument to be sure

3:51:51

the order of being to which the soul

3:51:53

belonged was developed from the essence

3:51:55

of mathematical being but in the end

3:51:58

Soul refers to that which all the

3:52:00

Ancients also sought without really

3:52:02

being able to think it namely the nature

3:52:05

of things indeed this is what Socrates

3:52:09

is depicting in the well-known

3:52:10

expectation and disappointment that the

3:52:12

writings of anag gor has caused him the

3:52:16

idea of the good already becomes visible

3:52:18

here as that which determines all true

3:52:20

knowing of the ultimate end without this

3:52:23

idea of the good and this also means

3:52:25

without the soul the idea of Fes cannot

3:52:27

be thought this is what secures for the

3:52:30

psyche its Central position in platonic

3:52:32

thinking the idea of the good especially

3:52:35

as it is presented in the 10th book of

3:52:37

the laws is the real essence of nature

3:52:41

nature cannot be called The Blind

3:52:42

necessity or coming together of things

3:52:45

but rather the very condition of having

3:52:47

been directed toward the good psyche and

3:52:49

techne denote the same thing

3:52:51

892

3:52:53

B7 in this kind of honing down one will

3:52:56

certainly recognize a Counterpoint to

3:52:58

the atomistic concept of nature in

3:53:00

Lucius and

3:53:01

Democritus but here once again just like

3:53:05

the idea of the from itself the extreme

3:53:07

sharpening of the idea of nature is an

3:53:09

indirect historically affected testimony

3:53:12

for what the Ancients intended without

3:53:14

being able to truly think it the order

3:53:17

constancy and regularity of the whole of

3:53:19

being the techne model introduced by

3:53:22

Plato makes this visible for that matter

3:53:26

however there is a second model the

3:53:29

confrontation with the universal

3:53:30

doctrine of motion presented in the

3:53:32

Theus is definitely not direct testimony

3:53:35

for the ancient thought of the so-called

3:53:36

herac litens rather this Universal

3:53:39

doctrine of motion is constructed from

3:53:41

out of the platonic concept of idos and

3:53:44

the concept of the Soul given along with

3:53:46

it Plato pushes the more ancient

3:53:48

thinking toward a radical conclusion

3:53:50

that was the last thing on his mind this

3:53:53

is reflected perhaps most clearly and we

3:53:55

owe this Insight mainly to Herman Langer

3:53:57

Beck 22 in the way that the soul becomes

3:54:00

distinguished from the senses which for

3:54:03

their part belong to the whole of the

3:54:05

motion that they perceive the soul Knows

3:54:08

by the means of this same whole but this

3:54:10

means that the soul is differentiated

3:54:12

from it and opened into the only

3:54:13

dimension of being in which there are

3:54:15

truly existing beings here is where the

3:54:18

concepts of no and nois first obtain

3:54:21

their specific

3:54:22

articulation at this point he means the

3:54:24

knowing of true beings the knowing that

3:54:26

removes itself from that which is

3:54:28

grasped in ice thesis that which does

3:54:30

not really exist but rather is always

3:54:32

other than what really is we can

3:54:36

conclude from this and this is certainly

3:54:39

one of the most important insights of

3:54:40

all that we have obtained from Plato

3:54:42

about the presocratic

3:54:44

that in the platonic sense there was

3:54:47

just as little an essential opposition

3:54:49

between athesis and noesis as there was

3:54:51

an unambiguous concept of the psyche

3:54:54

this is no less important for parity's

3:54:56

doctrine of being than it is for the

3:54:58

connection between soul and fire that

3:55:00

appears in

3:55:01

heraclitus 23 the so-called elatic

3:55:04

dialogues however play a very special

3:55:07

role in our guiding methodological ideas

3:55:10

the sophist grants the figures from Elia

3:55:13

a superior position just like the parids

3:55:16

does but it is not so much that they

3:55:18

play the elatic concept of being off

3:55:20

against a universal herac lionism but

3:55:22

rather that the eleatics go beyond

3:55:25

themselves it is the new dimension of

3:55:27

the logos the socratic platonic

3:55:29

Dimension that is opened up by elatic

3:55:32

means but this necessitates a

3:55:34

reformulating of the elatic doctrine

3:55:37

which in turn allows us to draw

3:55:39

conclusions about the original

3:55:41

Doctrine first of all we might establish

3:55:45

that the confrontation with parity's

3:55:47

doctrine of being that runs through all

3:55:48

the platonic dialogues shifts the

3:55:50

emphasis from on to hen but in this way

3:55:53

the elatic rejection of the many

3:55:55

transforms itself into the dialectical

3:55:57

assimilation of the many within the very

3:55:59

concepts of being and the one for the

3:56:02

one is always the one of the many with

3:56:05

this however the essence of logos is for

3:56:08

the first time correctly visible for it

3:56:10

is the essence of the logos to be the

3:56:12

one in such a way that it does not

3:56:14

simply posit what it has said and what

3:56:16

has posited but rather it expresses

3:56:18

something and it thereby turns into the

3:56:21

many and stands apart from the many and

3:56:23

yet is intended as one this should be

3:56:25

just how it is with the concept of the

3:56:27

whole like the concept of the one this

3:56:30

is also a concept that is implicit in

3:56:33

the parmenidean doctrine and as such its

3:56:37

significance still has yet to be

3:56:39

unfolded it is the platonic dialectic

3:56:41

that first accomplished this unfolding

3:56:44

that that is it discloses the essential

3:56:46

inner dialectic that binds the concept

3:56:48

of the whole with the concept of the

3:56:50

part 24 the argument in the sopus that

3:56:53

the concept of the whole disintegrates

3:56:56

dialectically just as the concept of the

3:56:58

one does negatively mirrors how the

3:57:00

single ho of parmenidean being still

3:57:02

maintains itself in the intuition and

3:57:04

sheds no real light upon the entire

3:57:06

dimension of Onna and logos and their

3:57:08

dialectical

3:57:10

implications how little the dimension of

3:57:12

logos disclosed by this was conscious of

3:57:14

its heterogeneity with respect to

3:57:16

previous thinking is shown very clearly

3:57:18

in the exposition of the sophist the

3:57:21

conjoined Concepts upon which everything

3:57:23

is based the concepts that constitute

3:57:26

the logos as logos being and non-being

3:57:29

sameness and difference the concepts

3:57:31

whose involvement with one another the

3:57:33

logos alone makes it all possible stand

3:57:36

alongside two other supremely generic

3:57:38

Concepts that are of a completely

3:57:40

different kind and origin motion and

3:57:42

Stillness C ly they too came to bear on

3:57:46

the analysis of the structure of the

3:57:48

logos in so far as only an unchangeable

3:57:50

motionless object can be an object of

3:57:52

knowledge and knowledge for its part is

3:57:56

not possible without unfolding that

3:57:58

which is itself different in being that

3:58:00

is without change or movement occurring

3:58:03

as tiresome as it was for Plato to

3:58:05

construct the herac and/ elatic

3:58:08

opposition in this way so as to

3:58:09

formalize the structural moments of the

3:58:11

logos it is just as instructive for us

3:58:14

to the extent that like the phenomenon

3:58:16

of the logos it lets us deduce from it

3:58:19

the knowledge that in the whole of

3:58:20

ancient thought the soul was still

3:58:22

undifferentiated from beings that is

3:58:25

from that which constituted being as the

3:58:27

known but this means that the opposition

3:58:29

of Fus and psyche and with it the

3:58:31

concept of Fus like that of the psyche

3:58:34

is first to be obtained from the

3:58:36

platonic question frame we now direct

3:58:39

our attention toward the explicit

3:58:41

discussion of ancient thinking

3:58:42

undertaken by The Stranger Plato sophist

3:58:45

and toward the historical picture of the

3:58:47

presocratic that becomes comprehensible

3:58:49

at that point in this way we will make

3:58:51

too astonishing

3:58:53

observations the first one is that here

3:58:55

is where we first find the treatment of

3:58:57

the history of philosophy that was

3:58:59

dominated by Aristotle and the

3:59:00

parapatics in the sophist the paretic

3:59:04

historical picture that determines the

3:59:06

doxography had a decisive prefiguration

3:59:09

in which the stranger asks about

3:59:10

originary being in such a way that he

3:59:12

calculates and enumerates how many

3:59:14

originary beings there are and what is

3:59:16

to be accepted as such sopus 242c

3:59:20

243b this is the very question frame

3:59:23

entrusted to us from Aristotle that

3:59:25

occurs in the first book of the physics

3:59:28

in particular albeit in a manner that is

3:59:31

still too

3:59:32

argumentative it seems to me that the

3:59:34

correspondence that exists here between

3:59:36

Aristotle and the scheme of the sophist

3:59:38

makes it quite likely that the sophist

3:59:40

depicts albeit with an ironic veneer a

3:59:43

well-known own line of reasoning from

3:59:45

platonic teaching 25 the second

3:59:48

observation which becomes evident

3:59:50

precisely through these depictions in

3:59:52

sophist concerns our old problem of

3:59:55

becoming and being cosmogony and

3:59:58

cosmology what the elatic stranger with

4:00:01

ironic respect had to reveal to the

4:00:03

imaginative genealogists is that these

4:00:05

joyfully inventive narrators of births

4:00:07

and marriages were themselves too good

4:00:09

to be concerned with the simplistic

4:00:11

understanding of their contemporaries

4:00:14

they did not say what it actually means

4:00:16

for being to come to be in this way as I

4:00:19

see it this is an indirect testimony

4:00:21

that all these stories of The Becoming

4:00:23

beginning and originating of being that

4:00:26

in end of themselves serve the theogonic

4:00:28

schematism certainly wanted nothing else

4:00:30

but to make being comprehensible and yet

4:00:33

precisely in this way also to let it

4:00:35

remain

4:00:37

incomprehensible that is there seems to

4:00:39

be a complete disjunction presented by

4:00:41

the concepts of Stillness and motion and

4:00:44

the stranger asks as if it were the very

4:00:46

height of difficulty how being itself is

4:00:48

supposed to show itself outside of these

4:00:50

two things sopus

4:00:53

250d undoubtedly it is this difficulty

4:00:56

concerning being that Hager referred to

4:00:58

in Being and Time but here obviously

4:01:02

being does not mean that dimension of

4:01:04

alathia whose concealed according to

4:01:07

hyger constitutes the essence of

4:01:09

metaphysics here rather being means all

4:01:12

of that which is which must be either

4:01:14

static or in motion and it points toward

4:01:16

everything of which we say that it is

4:01:18

thus toward being that is encountered in

4:01:20

the logos being that does not let itself

4:01:23

be grasped in the opposition of

4:01:24

Stillness and motion even here we could

4:01:27

say that the Reconstruction of the

4:01:29

elatic concept of being into the guiding

4:01:31

idea of the logos had still not been

4:01:33

driven forward to an adequate

4:01:35

conceptuality the multiplicity that has

4:01:37

entered into being and makes possible

4:01:39

the pluralism of ideas is no doubt based

4:01:42

principally upon the recognition

4:01:44

of non-being in being but in Plato this

4:01:47

non-being vacillates between the formal

4:01:49

category of being other and the content

4:01:51

category of change or as the case may be

4:01:55

movement this is exactly the point

4:01:58

however at which Aristotle first pushes

4:02:00

through toward the complete dissolution

4:02:02

of the elatic limitations on being he

4:02:05

interprets non-being within the realm of

4:02:07

the content determination of beings as

4:02:09

possibility toward being or in other

4:02:12

words as the absence of that which

4:02:14

constitutes complete being that is the

4:02:17

not yet of the idos here is where the

4:02:20

decisive step that takes Aristotle

4:02:22

beyond the pythagoreanism of the timus

4:02:24

shows itself he recognizes that the

4:02:27

ordering of nature is in itself not

4:02:30

adequately determined if in it we

4:02:32

conceive the illusion of an intelligible

4:02:34

Cosmos within what is limited yet

4:02:36

indeterminate the old pythag and

4:02:38

oppositional pair of Perez and a Pyon

4:02:41

what Aristotle sees rather is that the

4:02:44

opposition of not yet being and the

4:02:46

complete presence of the idos is not the

4:02:48

abstract opposition of the indeterminate

4:02:50

and its determination but instead that

4:02:52

the not yet itself belongs within the

4:02:54

sphere of the idos and aerosus 26 it

4:02:58

presents a particular look that beings

4:03:00

provide for it and he also sees that

4:03:03

this co- constitutes the real being of

4:03:05

nature the techne model is

4:03:07

characteristically reformulated by this

4:03:10

not to the extent that the finished

4:03:11

product is the actual existing thing in

4:03:13

itself as ready to use as is the case in

4:03:16

techne but rather it is that which is

4:03:18

present in its coming forth 27 it is

4:03:22

nature in each of its phases nature is

4:03:25

not really techne even if one can Define

4:03:27

it as that which produces itself for it

4:03:30

is not like an artist who can produce

4:03:33

this or that thing as he wishes from out

4:03:35

of the arbitrariness of his materials

4:03:37

albeit suitable

4:03:39

materials this applies as well the

4:03:42

material is not yet the work but this

4:03:44

not yet is a different one from the not

4:03:46

yet of natural things that ripen toward

4:03:48

their maturity or fill the scope of

4:03:50

their natural motion Plato's way of

4:03:53

thinking the being of Techni cannot

4:03:54

completely redeem this actual nature is

4:03:57

not an obscuring of true being as it

4:04:00

nature must take the illusion of

4:04:02

intelligible structures in a

4:04:03

contradictory medium into account it is

4:04:06

the being of the things themselves as

4:04:07

they are from their origin on so the

4:04:10

meaning of the Archie the beginning and

4:04:12

the origin that dominate early thinking

4:04:15

reproduces itself in Aristotle in that

4:04:17

Aristotle differentiates himself from

4:04:19

the techne model of the platonic Fable

4:04:23

nevertheless he rests his way of

4:04:25

conceiving things from techne and

4:04:26

thereby imposes the concept of H upon

4:04:29

early thought a concept that to

4:04:31

Aristotle is totally

4:04:34

inadequate five Greek philosophy and

4:04:38

modern thought GQ philosophy and modern

4:04:41

thought this is a topic that has posed

4:04:43

itself to German philosophy in

4:04:45

particular from the very beginning

4:04:48

people have even spoken of the GRE Mania

4:04:50

of the German philosophers and this term

4:04:52

is surely not just applicable to

4:04:54

haidegger or the marberg school of neoc

4:04:58

canonised for the great movement of

4:05:00

German idealism in which fited shelling

4:05:03

and Hegel inspired by K undertook an

4:05:06

immediate turn back toward the thought

4:05:07

provoking ideas of platonic and

4:05:09

Aristotelian

4:05:11

dialectic nevertheless in a pecul way

4:05:14

such a confrontation is an ambiguous

4:05:16

challenge for modern thinking on the one

4:05:19

hand we should never forget that Greek

4:05:21

philosophy is not philosophy in that

4:05:23

narrow sense that we associate with the

4:05:25

word today philosophy meant the whole of

4:05:28

theoretical and therefore scientific

4:05:31

interest and there is no doubt that it

4:05:34

was the Greeks who instigated a world

4:05:36

historical decision with their own

4:05:37

thinking and decided the path of modern

4:05:39

civilization with the creation of

4:05:41

science what separates the accident

4:05:44

Europe the so-called Western World from

4:05:47

the great hieratic cultures of the Asian

4:05:49

countries is precisely this new

4:05:51

Awakening of the desire to know with

4:05:53

which Greek philosophy Greek mathematics

4:05:56

Greek medicine and the whole of their

4:05:57

theoretical curiosity and their

4:05:59

intellectual Mastery is

4:06:01

associated thus for modern thinking the

4:06:05

confrontation with Greek thinking is a

4:06:07

kind of self encounter for us all in

4:06:10

this thinking Humanities being there at

4:06:12

home in the world once signifies the

4:06:14

inner correspondence between coming to

4:06:16

be at home 2 and the making oneself at

4:06:18

home three that characterizes the

4:06:20

Craftsman the expert the creator of new

4:06:23

shapes and forms the tech knites the man

4:06:26

who Masters a technique and at the same

4:06:28

time finds his proper place this is why

4:06:31

it requires the discovery of a free

4:06:33

space for Creative production that will

4:06:35

be available to him in the middle of a

4:06:37

pregiven nature a wholeness of the world

4:06:39

that orders itself in shapes and forms

4:06:42

thus pH philosophy during the Greek

4:06:44

Awakening is the thoughtful becoming

4:06:46

aware of the enormous exposure of human

4:06:48

beings within the there for within this

4:06:50

tiny field of free space that the

4:06:52

ordered whole of the course of nature

4:06:54

allows for human will and human ability

4:06:57

but it is precisely this exposure that

4:06:59

thinking becomes conscious of and that

4:07:01

leads it to pose such monstrous

4:07:02

questions as what was in the beginning

4:07:06

what does it mean to say that something

4:07:08

is what does it mean to say that nothing

4:07:11

is is nothing something the posing of

4:07:14

these questions is the beginning of

4:07:16

Greek philosophy and the basic answers

4:07:18

are FIS there being from out of itself

4:07:22

five in The Ordering of the whole and

4:07:24

logos the insight into and

4:07:26

insightfulness of this whole including

4:07:28

even the logos of human

4:07:30

craftsmanship but in this way the image

4:07:34

of Greek philosophy in confrontation

4:07:36

with modern science is fixed there

4:07:38

almost like an antipode and not just as

4:07:40

a precursor to and a discloser of the

4:07:42

course of theoretical ability and

4:07:44

Mastery it is the confrontation between

4:07:46

the intelligible world and the masteral

4:07:48

world that we become aware of in Greek

4:07:51

thinking this was the great collapse

4:07:53

that began in the 17th century with the

4:07:55

creation of Galilean mechanics with the

4:07:58

reflection of a new resolve for and New

4:08:00

Paths to knowledge by the great

4:08:01

scientists and thinkers of the 17th

4:08:04

century the world was now the object of

4:08:06

methodical inquiry by means of the

4:08:08

mathematically conceived and abstracted

4:08:10

and isolated question frame of modern

4:08:13

experiment mental science if we wanted

4:08:15

to express this Innovation formulaically

4:08:18

we could say that it was the abandonment

4:08:21

of the anthropomorphism of the Greek

4:08:23

contemplation of the world as

4:08:25

wonderfully simple and convincing as the

4:08:27

physics of the Aristotelian tradition

4:08:29

was the physics that is that tells us

4:08:32

that fire goes up because it is its

4:08:34

nature to want to be up and the Stone

4:08:36

Falls downward because it is only at

4:08:38

home when it is down this interpretation

4:08:40

of nature articulated from the

4:08:42

perspective of human beings and their

4:08:44

self- understanding was as we know and

4:08:47

as no one who belongs to our modern

4:08:49

world can conceal an anthropomorphic

4:08:51

covering for the possibilities of

4:08:54

grasping and mastering the world through

4:08:56

knowledge if modern science were

4:08:59

constituted not by arbitrary subsequent

4:09:01

interests but rather by the proper form

4:09:03

of its Global access to technology to

4:09:06

forming making changing constructing

4:09:10

then the heritage of ancient philosophy

4:09:12

would nevertheless IST alongside it in

4:09:14

the obvious fact that we both want and

4:09:16

need to see our world as understandable

4:09:18

rather than just

4:09:19

master in opposition to the

4:09:21

constructivism of the modern Sciences

4:09:24

which only accepts as known and

4:09:26

understood what it can reproduce the

4:09:28

Greek conception of science is

4:09:30

characterized by physis that is by the

4:09:33

Horizon of the existence of the order of

4:09:35

things that shows itself out of itself

4:09:37

and regulates itself thus the question

4:09:40

that is posed for us by the

4:09:41

confrontation of modern thinking with

4:09:43

this Greek Heritage is to what extent

4:09:45

this ancient Heritage offers a truth

4:09:47

that remains concealed from us under the

4:09:49

peculiar epistemological conditions of

4:09:52

modernity if we wanted to indicate the

4:09:54

distinction that unfolds itself here

4:09:56

with a single word that word would be

4:09:58

object six in the concept of cognition

4:10:01

at least in the English terms object and

4:10:03

objectivity 7 there seems to be a

4:10:05

self-evident presupposition that we can

4:10:07

know objects eight that is that we can

4:10:10

bring them to knowledge in their proper

4:10:12

being in the manner of of an objective

4:10:14

cognition nine the question assigned to

4:10:17

us by the ancient tradition and the

4:10:18

ancient Heritage is the extent to which

4:10:20

there are limitations posed by this

4:10:22

Enterprise of objectification 10 is

4:10:25

there a non-objectivity that in

4:10:28

principle eludes the clutches of modern

4:10:30

science with an inner material necessity

4:10:33

with a few demonstrations I will try to

4:10:36

illustrate that it is indeed the

4:10:37

relevant and persistent Heritage of

4:10:39

Greek thinking to be conscious of the

4:10:41

limits of objectification

4:10:43

to me the guiding example for this topic

4:10:46

seems to be the experience of the body

4:10:49

what we call body is most certainly not

4:10:51

the residential extens of the cartisan

4:10:53

definition of Corpus the body does not

4:10:56

manifest Itself by sheer mathematical

4:10:59

extendedness it is perhaps inaccessible

4:11:02

to objectification in an essential way

4:11:05

for how do human beings encounter

4:11:07

corporality do they not encounter it as

4:11:10

standing over against them and therefore

4:11:12

in its Poss objectivity only when its

4:11:15

function is disrupted corporeality

4:11:18

announces itself as the disturbance of

4:11:20

being given over to one's own being

4:11:22

alive in sickness discomfort and so on

4:11:25

the conflict that is set up between

4:11:27

natural bodily experience that

4:11:29

mysterious process in which well-being

4:11:31

and health go unnoticed and the strain

4:11:34

of keeping illness at bay through the

4:11:35

process of objectification is

4:11:37

experienced by everyone who is placed in

4:11:39

the situation of the object the

4:11:41

situation of a patient being being

4:11:43

treated by technical means it is an

4:11:46

expression of the self- understanding of

4:11:48

our modern Medical Science to render

4:11:50

these disturbances these insurrections

4:11:52

against our corporeality that offer

4:11:54

themselves up for objectification

4:11:56

masteral with the tools of modern

4:11:59

science in fact the concepts of

4:12:02

objectivity and object 11 are so alien

4:12:04

to the immediate understanding in which

4:12:06

human beings seek to make themselves at

4:12:08

home in the world that

4:12:10

characteristically the Greeks did not

4:12:12

even have term for them they could

4:12:14

barely even speak of a thing the Greek

4:12:17

word that they were in the habit of

4:12:19

using in this whole area is the word

4:12:21

pragma which as foreign words go is not

4:12:24

entirely foreign to us and which refers

4:12:26

to that within which we are entangled in

4:12:28

the prais of living thus it refers not

4:12:31

to that which stands over against us or

4:12:33

oppos to us as something to be overcome

4:12:36

but rather to that within which we move

4:12:37

and that with which we have to do this

4:12:40

is an orientation that has been

4:12:42

marginalized by the modern Global

4:12:43

Mastery that is structured by science

4:12:45

and the technology that grounds it a

4:12:48

second example and I am choosing an

4:12:50

especially provocative one is the

4:12:52

freedom of human beings it to has the

4:12:56

structure of what I have described as

4:12:58

essential non-objectivity 12 admittedly

4:13:01

this has never been completely forgotten

4:13:03

and with complete consciousness of the

4:13:05

basic orientation of modern science and

4:13:08

it epistemological possibilities and in

4:13:10

direct opposition to them the greatest

4:13:12

thinker of the idea a of Freedom whoever

4:13:14

lived can't I mean developed the idea

4:13:17

that freedom is not graspable and

4:13:19

provable by these epistemological

4:13:22

possibilities freedom is not a fact in

4:13:24

nature but rather as he formulated it in

4:13:27

a challenging Paradox a fact of Reason

4:13:30

13 something we must think because

4:13:32

without thinking of ourselves as free we

4:13:34

cannot understand ourselves at all

4:13:37

freedom is the fact of Reason 14 in The

4:13:40

Realm Of Human Action however

4:13:43

this is not the only limiting case for

4:13:45

all

4:13:46

objectivity I think the Greeks had it

4:13:48

right when they placed the idea of being

4:13:50

shaped by Society 15 ethos alongside the

4:13:54

fact of Reason ethos is the term that

4:13:57

Aristotle coined for this the

4:13:59

possibility of conscious choice and free

4:14:01

decision is always accompanied by

4:14:03

something that we always already are and

4:14:05

we are not an object to

4:14:07

ourselves it seems to me to be one of

4:14:09

the great legacies of Greek thought for

4:14:11

our own thinking that on this basis of

4:14:14

actual lived life Greek ethics allowed

4:14:16

ample space for a phenomenon that in

4:14:19

modernity is hardly ever given as theme

4:14:21

of philosophical reflection I mean the

4:14:23

theme of friendship filia this is a word

4:14:27

that has such narrow conceptual

4:14:28

resonance for us that we first must

4:14:30

broaden it in order to know what was

4:14:32

generally meant by it perhaps it will

4:14:35

suffice to recall the famous pagor and

4:14:37

saying among friends everything is

4:14:40

shared in philosophical reflection

4:14:43

friendship is a term for

4:14:45

solidarity solidarity however is a form

4:14:49

of World experience and social reality

4:14:51

that one cannot plan for by forced

4:14:53

objectification or produce through

4:14:55

artificial

4:14:56

institutions for on the contrary

4:14:59

solidarity precedes all possible

4:15:01

concerns and effects of Institutions

4:15:04

economic systems Judicial Systems and

4:15:06

social mories sustains them and makes

4:15:09

them possible if anyone knows this it is

4:15:14

the jurist on the other hand this seems

4:15:17

to me to be an aspect of the truth that

4:15:19

Greek thinking in this case keeps in

4:15:22

reserve for modern thinking and now if

4:15:25

their phenomenon related to this one I

4:15:27

mean the role that self-consciousness

4:15:29

plays in Modern thinking as we all know

4:15:32

it is pivotal for modern thought that

4:15:34

self-consciousness has methodological

4:15:37

Primacy for us methodological knowledge

4:15:40

is a self-conscious procedure that

4:15:41

accomplishes each step with

4:15:44

self-control thus ever since deart

4:15:47

self-consciousness has been the point at

4:15:49

which philosophy secures its ultimate

4:15:51

eventness and at the same time the

4:15:54

certainty of science secures its most

4:15:56

extreme legit imation but were the

4:15:59

Greeks not justified when they saw that

4:16:01

self-consciousness was secondary with

4:16:03

respect to that phenomenon of having

4:16:05

submitted to and being open to the world

4:16:07

16 the phenomenon that we call

4:16:08

Consciousness knowledge openness to

4:16:11

experience was it not precisely the

4:16:14

development of modern science that

4:16:16

taught us to Harbor doubts about the

4:16:17

assertions of

4:16:19

self-consciousness in regard to the

4:16:21

radical doubt that is the fundament of

4:16:23

cartisan knowledge nche said it must be

4:16:26

doubted even more

4:16:27

fundamentally Freud taught us how many

4:16:30

of our basic inclinations screen

4:16:32

themselves off from us within our

4:16:34

self-consciousness critiques of society

4:16:36

and ideology have shown us how many of

4:16:39

the certainties that self-consciousness

4:16:41

held to be self-evident and unest

4:16:42

questionable are reflections of

4:16:44

completely different interests and

4:16:46

realities in short the fact that

4:16:49

self-consciousness possesses the

4:16:50

unquestionable Primacy assigned to it by

4:16:53

modern thinking can justly be doubted

4:16:55

here too it appears to me that in that

4:16:59

magnificent self-forgetfulness with

4:17:01

which it thinks of its own faculty for

4:17:03

thinking its own experience of the world

4:17:05

as the Wide Open Eye of the intellect

4:17:08

Greek thinking holds in reserve a

4:17:09

principal contribution toward limiting

4:17:11

the illusions of self

4:17:13

knowledge continuing on from this point

4:17:16

let us take one last thing into

4:17:18

consideration something that has come

4:17:20

entirely to the four in the discussions

4:17:22

of contemporary philosophy and that in

4:17:25

any case can be held fast by the

4:17:27

concepts of objectivity and

4:17:29

objectification only by means of force

4:17:31

and violence I am talking about the

4:17:33

phenomenon of language language it seems

4:17:37

to me is one of the most compelling

4:17:40

phenomena of non-objectivity in so far

4:17:42

as essential self-forgetfulness

4:17:44

characterizes the performative character

4:17:46

of speech it is always already a

4:17:49

technical Distortion when the modern

4:17:51

thematizing of language sees in it an

4:17:53

Instrumentarium a system of signs an

4:17:56

arsenal of tools for communication as if

4:17:59

we kept these instruments or tools of

4:18:01

speech words and sentence structure

4:18:02

handy in some kind of storage and simply

4:18:05

had to apply them to whatever we

4:18:07

encountered here the Greek counter

4:18:09

example is overwhelmingly evident the

4:18:12

Greeks had no word for language at all

4:18:15

they only had a word for the tongue glot

4:18:18

that which calls forth sounds and a word

4:18:20

for that which is communicated by

4:18:22

language logos with the SL AOS precisely

4:18:27

that upon which the inner self

4:18:28

forgetfulness of speech is essentially

4:18:30

drawn is pushed into view the world

4:18:32

itself which is evoked by speech lifted

4:18:35

into presence and brought into

4:18:37

articulation and communicative

4:18:40

participation in speaking about things

4:18:42

the things are there it is in speech and

4:18:45

speaking with one another that the world

4:18:47

and the experiential world of human

4:18:48

beings constructs itself and not in an

4:18:51

objectification that visis the

4:18:53

communicative transmission of the

4:18:55

insights of one person to the insights

4:18:57

of another bases itself on objectivity

4:18:59

and purports to be knowledge for

4:19:01

everyone the articulation of the

4:19:04

experiential World in SL AOS discourse

4:19:07

with one another the communicative

4:19:09

sedimentation of our experiential world

4:19:11

that encompasses every everything that

4:19:13

we can exchange with one another forms a

4:19:15

kind of knowledge that alongside the

4:19:18

great monologue of the modern sciences

4:19:20

and their growing accumulation of

4:19:21

empirical potential still presents the

4:19:24

other half of the truth the theme of the

4:19:26

confrontation between the modern idea of

4:19:29

Science and the Greek conceptions of

4:19:30

philosophy thus possesses an enduring

4:19:33

relevance for it deals with the

4:19:35

integration of The Magnificent results

4:19:37

and the faculty SL achievements of the

4:19:39

modern empirical Sciences into social

4:19:41

consciousness into the life experience

4:19:44

of the individual and the group in the

4:19:46

end however this integration does not

4:19:49

come about through the methods of modern

4:19:51

science and its mode of unwavering

4:19:54

self-control it accomplishes itself in

4:19:56

the practice of social life itself it

4:19:59

must always take back into its own

4:20:01

purview that which has been placed in

4:20:03

the power of human beings and it has to

4:20:05

vindicate the limits that human reason

4:20:07

has placed upon its own power and

4:20:10

recklessness we require no proof to see

4:20:13

that for the Contemporary human being as

4:20:16

well even as much as modern industry and

4:20:18

Technology are spreading across the

4:20:20

entire globe in this sense the

4:20:23

understandable world the world in which

4:20:25

we are at home Remains the final

4:20:28

authority six Natural Science and the

4:20:33

concept of nature T his topic is of

4:20:36

particular concern to a scholar who has

4:20:38

chosen the ancient world as one of his

4:20:40

most important fields of study but it

4:20:42

also concerns our present age the age of

4:20:44

Science and the dominance of the

4:20:46

Industrial

4:20:47

Revolution at the same time it becomes

4:20:49

the starting point for a fundamentally

4:20:51

skeptical question whether or not Greek

4:20:54

science is science in the same sense as

4:20:56

the modern Natural Sciences are indeed

4:21:00

we have learned to view the path of

4:21:01

research in the modern Sciences as a

4:21:03

historical topic and moreover ever since

4:21:07

Thomas we speak of Revolutions in

4:21:09

The Sciences rather than sheer progress

4:21:12

the famous aforementioned book the

4:21:15

structure of scientific revolutions is

4:21:17

nevertheless introduced by its author

4:21:19

with the surprising motivation that for

4:21:22

him Aristotelian physics presents such

4:21:25

an obvious ho that the modern Sciences

4:21:27

in contrast to the Aristotelian in all

4:21:30

of the diversity of their revolutions

4:21:32

present but a single large Revolution I

4:21:35

venture to add the question are they

4:21:37

both Sciences in the same sense what

4:21:40

does science mean now and what did it

4:21:42

mean then are they really two faces of

4:21:45

the same science and could there really

4:21:47

be a confrontation between them the

4:21:50

question pushes itself to the four with

4:21:52

a double obtrusiveness since we can no

4:21:54

longer delimit our question by the

4:21:56

European Horizon within which Europe has

4:21:58

acknowledged and nurtured its own Greek

4:22:00

Heritage today modern science is a

4:22:03

global reality it certainly began in

4:22:06

Europe but today its influence on the

4:22:08

ways of life in cultural regions other

4:22:10

than the European cannot be neglected in

4:22:14

the modern world since cultures much

4:22:17

older than the European one have begun

4:22:18

to live with the results and

4:22:20

consequences of modern science the Greek

4:22:23

Heritage that was succeeded by Europe

4:22:25

and its scientific culture finds itself

4:22:27

faced with entirely new

4:22:29

confrontations our question therefore

4:22:32

will not depend entirely upon that

4:22:34

single confrontation that can be traced

4:22:36

back to European history and its modern

4:22:39

development on the contrary we certainly

4:22:42

can not Overlook the fact that standing

4:22:44

in the background of this question is

4:22:46

the confrontation between our own world

4:22:48

with its Christian Origins and

4:22:50

non-european cultural regions with their

4:22:53

different religious Traditions that we

4:22:55

have begun to live alongside of this is

4:22:59

of course an even broader topic one that

4:23:02

also puts The ecumenical mission of the

4:23:04

Christian Gospel to the test it is all

4:23:07

the more important therefore to question

4:23:10

ourselves about the emergence of modern

4:23:12

science and its Greek

4:23:13

Origins Europe as such did not even

4:23:17

exist back then in the beginning Greece

4:23:21

that little country whose cultural

4:23:23

heritage we carry with us was itself

4:23:25

only a marginal figure alongside such

4:23:27

great cultures as the Egyptians the

4:23:29

Persians and the

4:23:31

Babylonians only in our century did the

4:23:33

early preg Greek era in its full scope

4:23:36

and in the abundance of its of culture

4:23:37

and tradition come within the purview of

4:23:40

European

4:23:41

scholarship we have gained an essential

4:23:43

Insight from it concerning the beginning

4:23:45

of philosophy in Greece meanwhile we

4:23:49

know much about Egyptian mathematics and

4:23:51

astronomy and no less about Babylonian

4:23:53

mathematics and what their astronomy was

4:23:55

about thus traces of the earliest

4:23:58

astronomical observations from

4:24:00

indefinite periods are really scattered

4:24:02

across the entire planet from this last

4:24:05

perspective we are even directed back

4:24:07

far beyond any and all linguistic

4:24:09

Tradition now is this supposed to mean

4:24:12

that science is that much older or must

4:24:15

we ask ourselves whether science does

4:24:17

not have a special meaning for us that

4:24:19

in the end allowed it to become the

4:24:21

destiny of European or perhaps even the

4:24:23

destiny of humanity moreover it is not

4:24:27

just science whose Beginnings are at

4:24:29

issue here it is at the same time the

4:24:33

concept of philosophy which is

4:24:35

intimately connected with Greek science

4:24:38

we would be hardpressed to name more

4:24:39

important circumstantial evidence for

4:24:41

the novelty of this question of a

4:24:43

European beginning than the significance

4:24:45

of the alphabet whose Origins and

4:24:47

development are connected with the Greek

4:24:49

Beginnings in the most intimate way we

4:24:52

are still at the beginning of our

4:24:53

ruminations about this area of study it

4:24:56

is not just a question of the written

4:24:58

tradition which has broadened our

4:25:00

Horizon since the deciphering of cunia

4:25:02

form writing it is above all a question

4:25:06

of the rapid reception and development

4:25:08

of the alphabet which opens up the

4:25:10

literary tradition of Greek culture

4:25:12

culture thus we see ourselves

4:25:15

immediately directed back toward how the

4:25:17

Greeks themselves thought about

4:25:18

beginnings and if there is any one thing

4:25:21

that best illuminates their own

4:25:22

situation then it has to be the famous

4:25:25

answer that Solen was supposed to have

4:25:26

been given in Egypt as he tried to

4:25:28

inform himself about the beginnings

4:25:30

Heritage and past of that culture

4:25:33

according to Plato he received the

4:25:35

famous answer you Greeks are still

4:25:38

children and therefore naive about

4:25:40

ignorant of and Ill suited to the

4:25:41

century and Millennia fading away into

4:25:44

the darkness of the past let us consult

4:25:47

the master of those who know such things

4:25:49

and that is

4:25:50

Aristotle he ascribes the beginning of

4:25:53

philosophy to the culture of

4:25:55

mildness according to Aristotle after

4:25:58

all it is totally uncertain whether or

4:26:00

nor the first one who is supposed to

4:26:02

have pursued philosophy in milus left

4:26:04

any written record of his thinking at

4:26:06

all nevertheless we do know

4:26:09

approximately when the culture of malus

4:26:11

had its rise and how this rise is

4:26:13

connected with the colonial era during

4:26:15

which the entire Mediterranean culture

4:26:17

and its Coastline were populated with

4:26:19

Greek settlements and new

4:26:21

establishments but if we now seek

4:26:23

Aristotle's advice then we must deal at

4:26:26

once with a long and very extensive

4:26:27

chain of

4:26:28

tradition above all it is Aristotelian

4:26:32

physics itself and the commentaries on

4:26:34

it that to a large degree form the basis

4:26:37

of our knowledge about the origins of

4:26:39

philosophy indeed there can be no no

4:26:42

doubt that the written record of the

4:26:43

Epic tradition iie Homer and Hesed

4:26:47

already Falls within the age of

4:26:49

literacy there is no question that the

4:26:51

after effects of homeric language and

4:26:53

the after effects of heid's cosmogonical

4:26:55

Tales codetermine the borging Civic

4:26:58

culture of the Greek Colonial period

4:27:01

ever since then Aristotle and the

4:27:03

Scholastic and history shaping Force

4:27:05

associated with his thinking have not

4:27:07

only remained the source of our

4:27:08

knowledge but they also indicate the

4:27:10

tutar heritage of our

4:27:12

understanding Aristotle certainly

4:27:15

distinguished the first theologians

4:27:16

explicitly from the first of the

4:27:18

philosophers who was according to him

4:27:21

fails of

4:27:22

mildness however Aristotle himself had

4:27:25

provided the concepts with which he

4:27:28

would conceive the beginnings of Science

4:27:30

and

4:27:31

philosophy thus nearly everyone is given

4:27:34

to understand that forthes in the

4:27:37

beginning there was water out of which

4:27:39

the other elements Earth and air and The

4:27:41

Shining warmth of the Stars developed

4:27:43

Aristotle coined the term matter H for

4:27:47

all of these this of course is anything

4:27:51

but an appropriate schema for the first

4:27:53

philosophy of the West because of the

4:27:55

distinction that Aristotle had bestowed

4:27:57

upon him it was unavoidable that in

4:28:00

subsequent ear thales would be shrouded

4:28:02

in Legend and thus we will never know

4:28:04

how much of it anti dates this

4:28:06

distinction however much we want to find

4:28:09

a path from its first beginning in water

4:28:11

to the whole of the univers verse we

4:28:13

find hardly a hint of this in the tales

4:28:15

of the Aristotelian reports at best

4:28:18

there is one observation pointing back

4:28:20

to the water thesis that sounds

4:28:22

originary the idea that water carries

4:28:24

the Earth there could be a genuine

4:28:27

observation in this in which water

4:28:28

refers to the Primal ocean that carries

4:28:30

the solid land after all it does carry

4:28:34

everything that is not too heavy to

4:28:35

float on the water the plank floating on

4:28:38

the water seems to me like a first hint

4:28:40

of the puzzle of an equili ibrium that

4:28:42

always seeks to reproduce itself no

4:28:45

matter how deeply we push the plank

4:28:47

under it will always rise to surface

4:28:50

again I only pursue this in order to

4:28:52

find any possible connection at all with

4:28:55

the priority of water in Aristotle's

4:28:57

text without bringing into play the

4:28:58

later concept of matter and with it the

4:29:00

doctrine of causes which is very far

4:29:03

removed from this besides It is Well

4:29:06

understood that as one of the great

4:29:08

sages of Greece thals has traditionally

4:29:11

been a attributed with the widest

4:29:13

variety of qualities and merits yet an

4:29:16

anecdote that was meant polemically

4:29:18

might be the most suitable one in that

4:29:20

early world of Beginnings it is the

4:29:23

story in which thals is supposed to have

4:29:25

fallen into a well which was apparently

4:29:27

dry and was helped out of it by a thian

4:29:30

woman the story only has a point however

4:29:34

if we assume that thals climbed into the

4:29:36

dry well in order to observe the stars

4:29:38

from there this was undoubtedly a more

4:29:42

precise means of stargazing than was

4:29:44

otherwise possible the well was

4:29:46

something like the telescope of the time

4:29:49

in any case we know that the world of

4:29:52

the Stars had been observed from time

4:29:53

immemorial in all of the most disparate

4:29:55

regions of the earth there is however

4:29:59

yet another point that compels us to

4:30:01

take the old reports about theal serious

4:30:04

and that is the

4:30:05

information concerning his knowledge of

4:30:08

mathematics it is clear at any rate that

4:30:11

he learned from others in this field

4:30:13

land surveying from the Egyptians and

4:30:15

the long record of solar and lunar

4:30:16

eclipses from the

4:30:18

Babylonians so here we can chalk up at

4:30:20

least one certain result namely that in

4:30:24

contrast to the mathematics of Egypt and

4:30:26

of Asia Minor the concept of proof the

4:30:29

concept of science received its decisive

4:30:32

characterization for the first time with

4:30:34

theils science is only true knowledge

4:30:37

when it can be proven to what extent

4:30:39

such logical demands could be carried

4:30:41

out at that time in the field of

4:30:43

mathematics is beside the point here but

4:30:46

it seems certain that neither the

4:30:47

superior knowledge of the Egyptians nor

4:30:49

that of the Babylonians was at all

4:30:51

interested in anything like the pability

4:30:54

of mathematical principles to them

4:30:57

everything was solely a matter of

4:30:59

practical

4:31:00

application it seems that here in milus

4:31:03

a first distinguishing characteristic of

4:31:06

science shows itself science consists

4:31:09

not merely in knowledge but also in

4:31:11

precisely the kind of logical

4:31:12

Necessities that we know from proofs in

4:31:14

the field of

4:31:15

mathematics our knowledge of anaximander

4:31:19

the other great thinker from milus is

4:31:21

very much richer from him we even have a

4:31:24

written statement that has been handed

4:31:26

down one that has been the object of

4:31:28

innumerable interpretations ever since

4:31:31

theophrastus it is the famous passage

4:31:33

about coming into being and passing away

4:31:36

that all of the things that are must

4:31:37

account for and pay Penance to one

4:31:39

another according to the injunction of

4:31:41

time at one time this proposition was

4:31:44

most popular among writers like scaph

4:31:47

and N for the one another was missing

4:31:50

from the transmitted text and so one

4:31:52

could understand the statement as though

4:31:54

an individual having isolated itself had

4:31:57

to pay Penance for its isolation by its

4:31:59

downfall and its return to the infinite

4:32:02

since the original text with its one

4:32:04

another has been restored however what

4:32:07

resonates for us in the proposition is

4:32:09

not so much the Romantic crisis of the

4:32:11

enl M and the approaching nihilism as it

4:32:13

is the true essence of nature everything

4:32:16

reestablishes itself in the ordered

4:32:18

return of day and night or summer and

4:32:20

winter because we have an equilibrium

4:32:23

here that always reestablishes itself

4:32:25

within itself this is a first inkling of

4:32:28

what we too would perhaps like to call

4:32:31

nature it would be going too far at this

4:32:34

point to debate the entire existing

4:32:35

doxography on

4:32:37

anaximander the only thing we can really

4:32:40

say for certain is that anaximander ER

4:32:42

could have put forward neither a cosmog

4:32:45

nor a cosmology without the example of

4:32:47

Hees theog and as yo Hall's share has

4:32:50

shown in accordance with the Asian model

4:32:54

we must of course keep at arms length

4:32:56

the common misconception that the ayon

4:32:59

the Limitless or the infinite would have

4:33:01

been intended as a superior abstractly

4:33:04

formed sensible substance between the

4:33:06

water of thals and the air of an

4:33:08

aamin this does nothing but demonstrate

4:33:11

how in appropriate the Aristotelian

4:33:13

concept of H is for M Shan School

4:33:16

nevertheless the fact that a cosmology

4:33:19

was developed here in all its

4:33:20

particulars leads us to the point at

4:33:22

which the philosophical problems of

4:33:24

world creation and World Order became a

4:33:26

challenge for thinking this is the new

4:33:29

stage in which the altic philosophers

4:33:31

and their critics took such conceptual

4:33:33

modes as coming into being and passing

4:33:35

away as their standard we are finally on

4:33:38

Solid Ground here thanks to the

4:33:40

diligence of simplicius one of the great

4:33:42

Scholars of byzantin Athens he copied

4:33:45

and commented on large parts of parity's

4:33:47

dactic poem before the academy was

4:33:50

dissolved this at least in its rough

4:33:53

form is the only thinking prior to all

4:33:55

Aristotelian and modern thought that has

4:33:57

been recognizably transmitted to us even

4:34:01

this of course is really just a matter

4:34:03

of one small fragment nevertheless this

4:34:07

one fragment is the almost completely

4:34:09

intact introduction to the great

4:34:11

doctrine of of

4:34:12

parids of course what follows from there

4:34:15

is primarily the development of a

4:34:17

physics for Mortals a physics which the

4:34:19

goddess commends to The Mortals only a

4:34:22

few fragments of this later part are

4:34:24

intact nevertheless we have to free

4:34:27

ourselves from the impression that only

4:34:29

the intact first part matters and that

4:34:31

we could really reconstruct the whole of

4:34:33

parmen thought from it we might call

4:34:36

this introduction to the dactic poem

4:34:38

logic or ontology and perhaps conceive

4:34:40

of what follows from it as a kind of

4:34:43

cosmology but what matters here is

4:34:45

precisely what the goddess puts into the

4:34:47

mouths of The Mortals whereby she

4:34:49

distinguishes herself from the other

4:34:51

great thinkers who had developed their

4:34:53

new worldview at the time in mildness

4:34:55

only at this point does it really become

4:34:57

clear what the great vision was that was

4:34:59

placed in parity's mouth by the Goddess

4:35:03

that is the discourse here is not just

4:35:05

about a Divine wisdom that repudiates

4:35:07

all non-being as nonsense and thus it is

4:35:10

not just about the critique of coming

4:35:11

into being and passing away and of the

4:35:13

indestructible presence of the

4:35:15

well-rounded sphere of being rather the

4:35:19

discourse with a slight tone of

4:35:21

condescension and not without some

4:35:23

critical irony is of the only possible

4:35:26

way to conceive of the many that is from

4:35:29

the opposition of day and night of light

4:35:31

and dark which constitutes the

4:35:33

multiplicity of

4:35:35

appearances and without the idea that we

4:35:37

must therefore conceive of either a

4:35:39

self-changing being or a non-being

4:35:41

things appear to be different in the

4:35:43

sheer difference between daylight and

4:35:45

nightly Darkness the isolated statement

4:35:48

from parine is that Aristotle cited and

4:35:50

that was handed down as fragment 16 fits

4:35:53

very well here just as the mixture of

4:35:55

the limbs comports itself in each case

4:35:58

so awareness presents itself to human

4:36:00

beings for it is always the same thing

4:36:03

that perceives in each and every human

4:36:05

being the nature of the limbs what we

4:36:07

are aware of is the more dot I do not

4:36:10

want to draw any precipitous

4:36:11

consequences or infer any corrections

4:36:13

that might ensue from a precise reading

4:36:15

of the transition in the only intact

4:36:17

introduction to parmen physics of

4:36:19

Mortals that we have but in any case we

4:36:23

have to place the accents differently

4:36:25

than Plato and Aristotle did certainly

4:36:27

in such a way that the doctrine of the

4:36:29

platonic reference to elatic thinking

4:36:31

does not directly contradict the

4:36:33

introduction of the dactic poem no more

4:36:35

than the Aristotelian derivation of the

4:36:37

later corpal Theory does besides carries

4:36:42

the doctrine of unity into the

4:36:43

development of his dialectic ad absurdum

4:36:46

as the parmin dialogue shows and

4:36:49

Aristotle sees a valid aspect of the

4:36:51

mixture in that parid an aoras and

4:36:54

democratus all point in the same

4:36:56

direction differentiation is

4:36:58

self-separation

4:36:59

one now undoubtedly there is also the

4:37:02

ever growing mathematical science to

4:37:04

take into consideration a science whose

4:37:07

Beginnings we found in thales and which

4:37:09

was certainly worked into the cosmogony

4:37:11

and cosmology of anaxim mander the

4:37:14

question of how the Pythagorean

4:37:16

tradition deals with this incipient

4:37:18

science of nature is more difficult this

4:37:21

is such a complex topic that we have to

4:37:23

be satisfied with the idea that one

4:37:25

unequivocal hint can be gleaned from

4:37:26

Plato's comments the Pythagorean

4:37:29

doctrine of numbers proceeds from the

4:37:31

fact that the Harmony in the whole

4:37:33

number relationships that depend on the

4:37:35

lengths of strings provides evidence for

4:37:37

the ontological status of numbers two in

4:37:39

the Pythagorean Doctrine in no doubt

4:37:43

this is precisely where Plato takes a

4:37:45

new step when by means of his concept of

4:37:48

ideas he overcomes the simple

4:37:50

identification of number and being and

4:37:52

dares to take a step beyond the idealy

4:37:54

of mathematical truths a step toward the

4:37:57

idealy of the logos and the dialectic

4:37:59

without therefore becoming a sophist

4:38:02

number always remains that whereby Plato

4:38:05

distinguishes the being of the idea from

4:38:07

all appearing

4:38:08

multiplicities even as it is carried out

4:38:11

how however the platonic doctrine of

4:38:13

ideas sees as it were no necessity to

4:38:16

discuss how the things of nature in

4:38:18

their individuality and their

4:38:20

multiplicity actually participate in the

4:38:22

being of ideas the participation of the

4:38:25

individual in the idea is not even the

4:38:27

true participation from which the

4:38:29

platonic dialectic of the one and the

4:38:30

many gains its scope this true

4:38:33

participation rather is the relationship

4:38:36

of the ideas to one another and what

4:38:38

Plato has in mind with the logos the

4:38:41

differentiation of mathematical being

4:38:43

from the being of ideas is therefore

4:38:45

incompatible with such a Pythagorean

4:38:47

identity and surely it was precisely The

4:38:50

Genius of Theus that came to Plato's Aid

4:38:52

in so far as it offered him the

4:38:54

tremendous advances of contemporary

4:38:56

mathematics and even

4:38:58

stereometry both are pure mathematics

4:39:00

for which Plato takes

4:39:02

responsibility so we should not wonder

4:39:04

that pure mathematical knowledge in all

4:39:06

its Clarity is invoked in the profoundly

4:39:08

mythical playfulness of the timus

4:39:11

knowledge with the help of which Plato

4:39:13

even Eno bless the theory of atoms his

4:39:16

is at any rate the most radical form of

4:39:19

the corpuscular Theory democratus put

4:39:22

this Theory forward but his name is

4:39:24

never mentioned by Plato indeed in the

4:39:27

timus everything has a mathematical form

4:39:30

and everything is built upon the

4:39:31

ideality of the mathematical being of

4:39:33

the so-called platonic bodies

4:39:36

nevertheless without trepidation it is

4:39:39

now treated once again as a theory of

4:39:41

nature triangles are bundled together on

4:39:44

top of one other and thereby achieve a

4:39:46

natural corporeality all by themselves

4:39:49

this of course is part of the ingenious

4:39:52

game in which scientific precision and

4:39:54

childish naive t play into one another

4:39:57

throughout the text thus in spite of

4:40:00

what has happened in modern times due to

4:40:02

the scientific success of the concept of

4:40:04

the atom as atomic theory has prevailed

4:40:06

in the physics of modern science to the

4:40:08

credit of democratus we should not for

4:40:11

forget the key position of the timus the

4:40:14

democon theory of atams was anything but

4:40:16

mathematical as the concept of the Void

4:40:19

already shows therefore it is no wonder

4:40:22

that the truly productive minds of

4:40:24

modern quantum physics have showed a

4:40:26

sincere predilection for the timus the

4:40:29

modern natural science that calls itself

4:40:31

physics is really something completely

4:40:33

different from the concept of physic

4:40:35

that we find in the doctrines of the

4:40:36

Aristotelian School in fact there one

4:40:40

can hardly speak speak of an application

4:40:42

of mathematics in the way that modern

4:40:44

science has developed such applications

4:40:46

as its

4:40:47

foundation can't expressed it clearly

4:40:50

nature is nothing but matter subject to

4:40:52

laws and this accurately describes the

4:40:55

consummate form of Newtonian physics in

4:40:58

truth it was not really Plato's timus

4:41:01

but rather Aristotelian physics that

4:41:03

dominated the whole of later Antiquity

4:41:05

right up to the dawn of modernity and

4:41:07

because Aristotelian physics encompasses

4:41:09

the movement of everything natural was

4:41:11

actually a concept of nature that pushed

4:41:13

itself forward here it Accords with the

4:41:16

pattern of human life experience that

4:41:18

even the cycle of nature is thought

4:41:20

according to human behavior which moves

4:41:23

by itself and here and there as it will

4:41:24

fire moves itself up toward the Stars

4:41:27

the Falling Rock down toward the other

4:41:29

rocks in helenistic times the era

4:41:32

dominated by Aristotle brought

4:41:34

scientific advances in many areas a

4:41:37

complicated astronomy had become

4:41:39

necessary in order to incorporate The

4:41:41

Irregular Stars the planets into the

4:41:44

cyclical star system of antiquity by a

4:41:46

synthesis of their circular

4:41:48

movements accordingly one did not

4:41:51

consider comets to be stars at all but

4:41:53

rather

4:41:54

meteors this makes it clear that there

4:41:56

was something so Illuminating about the

4:41:58

uniformity of daily life experience and

4:42:00

the science of nature that neither in

4:42:02

astronomy nor anywhere else even in the

4:42:04

Renaissance that is with the Revival of

4:42:07

the Greek cultural world could this

4:42:09

nassin study of nature separate it self

4:42:11

from the uniformity of the Aristotelian

4:42:13

picture of the world it is generally

4:42:16

believed of course that modernity and

4:42:19

its science took their decisive step

4:42:21

with the copernican revolution the Canon

4:42:24

of Thorne was certainly a good humanist

4:42:26

and a shrewd thinker and so he adopted

4:42:28

the Revolutionary idea that the sun does

4:42:30

not move around the Earth but rather the

4:42:33

earth goes around the Sun it occurred to

4:42:35

Copernicus to document such sensory

4:42:38

Illusions quite beautifully with

4:42:39

citations from Virgil

4:42:41

for him however the description of the

4:42:44

movements of the Stars themselves still

4:42:46

remained completely within the framework

4:42:48

of ancient astronomical Theory as the

4:42:51

church turned against the Revolutionary

4:42:54

idea of Copernicus in consideration of

4:42:56

the creation story it was not totally

4:42:59

without justification that oand

4:43:01

explained and defended the heliocentric

4:43:03

model as a harmless mathematical

4:43:05

inversion the road to a really new

4:43:07

astronomical worldview was first paved

4:43:09

by Kepler and it did not receive its

4:43:12

true beginning with the spectacularly

4:43:14

gigantic proportions of the Stellar

4:43:15

world at all the real revolution rather

4:43:19

began with the mechanics provided by

4:43:22

Galileo even for the church it could

4:43:24

remain a completely harmless distinction

4:43:26

initially that is until Galileo publicly

4:43:29

adopted the copernican worldview in his

4:43:32

dialogue about the two cosmological

4:43:34

systems the true Audacity Of Galileo

4:43:37

rested in his assertion that everything

4:43:39

that falls does so according to the same

4:43:41

laws and would fall at the same rate if

4:43:42

not for the resistance of air the a

4:43:45

inspiring intellectual power of Galileo

4:43:48

made it possible for him to perceive the

4:43:49

free fall in his mind meant precipio in

4:43:53

such a way that the falling was in no

4:43:54

way dependent upon the condition of the

4:43:56

falling object in a vacuum a bar of lead

4:44:00

Falls no faster than a feather in those

4:44:03

days no one could yet prove this through

4:44:06

experimentation the new Audacity Of The

4:44:08

mathematically structured thinking that

4:44:10

we all modern science was really this

4:44:12

kind of departure from

4:44:14

appearances the real functional

4:44:16

significance of mathematics was changed

4:44:18

by this it now served for the

4:44:21

description of measurable values from

4:44:23

which the structural cooperation of the

4:44:25

measurable data of time and space and

4:44:27

acceleration could be derived these are

4:44:30

the laws of free fall and they are

4:44:32

totally independent of the weight of the

4:44:33

falling body mathematical abstraction

4:44:37

thereby turned out to be the procedure

4:44:38

that would prove itself over and over

4:44:40

again in the mastering of the forces of

4:44:43

nature it first achieved Perfection with

4:44:45

Newton who overcame the ancient

4:44:47

patrimony namely the complete separation

4:44:50

of the Heavenly realm from the sublunar

4:44:52

world only since Newton has there been

4:44:55

one and the same science for the heavens

4:44:57

and the Earth in Antiquity mathematics

4:45:00

was considered to be the real science

4:45:03

and to that extent science was not

4:45:05

really Natural Science and it was not at

4:45:08

all dependent upon experience in the

4:45:11

helenistic age the Aristotelian school

4:45:14

had an enormous effect in many technical

4:45:16

fields of knowledge philosophy itself

4:45:19

lost its comprehensive value and like an

4:45:22

immortal Socrates concentrated itself

4:45:25

more and more in the direction of

4:45:26

practical

4:45:27

philosophy we need only think the effect

4:45:31

of epicurus on the stoa Greek philosophy

4:45:34

was first placed in the service of

4:45:36

Christian theology with late

4:45:37

neoplatonism and its effect on the

4:45:39

church fathers in inspired in part by

4:45:43

the Arabic transmission of Aristotelian

4:45:45

physics this is what we call

4:45:48

scholasticism and it is what laid the

4:45:50

ground in the age of the Renaissance

4:45:52

humanism and the Reformation for the

4:45:55

emergence of the new Sciences

4:45:56

jurisprudence and Medicine in particular

4:46:00

in those days the progress of the modern

4:46:02

Natural Sciences occurred Less in the

4:46:05

universities the real scientists were

4:46:07

not to be found at these scholastically

4:46:09

dominated schools not even lies who

4:46:12

after all said about the highly

4:46:14

consequential task of bringing Greek

4:46:16

philosophy and modern science together

4:46:19

in this Epoch of Enlightenment as the

4:46:21

science of modernity began its triumphal

4:46:24

procession we can understand how the

4:46:26

limitations of the new science also soon

4:46:28

became detectable under these

4:46:31

circumstances already in decart Century

4:46:34

Pascal spoke of two kinds of spirit the

4:46:37

espr geometric and the espr def finess

4:46:40

geometry had clear priority in the

4:46:42

scientific consciousness of the time

4:46:45

even the geometrical Gardens of the 18th

4:46:48

century were replaced only recently by

4:46:50

the more natural English

4:46:51

Gardens thus under the technical

4:46:54

progress of the Sciences natural

4:46:56

philosophy was more and more driven out

4:46:58

of the philosophical

4:47:00

Consciousness this driving out process

4:47:02

has been effective to this day this

4:47:05

becomes quite obvious in the

4:47:06

nomenclature for science in the various

4:47:09

languages the German word wisen shof was

4:47:13

itself not yet the univocal term for the

4:47:15

new science until 200 years ago one

4:47:18

could speak of something that one knew

4:47:20

for instance because one had already

4:47:23

experienced it once yes I have knowledge

4:47:26

with sof of that on the other hand in

4:47:29

the Anglo-Saxon world the term science

4:47:32

is generally only applicable to the

4:47:34

Natural

4:47:35

Sciences what Germans call the gist

4:47:37

wisen ofen is called the humanities here

4:47:39

or in France lra these are in fact

4:47:44

laborious substitutions that unlike the

4:47:47

German concept of the GES wien of and

4:47:49

acknowledge the monopolistic place of

4:47:51

the Natural

4:47:52

Sciences this was exactly how the

4:47:54

concept of method as it appears in the

4:47:57

title of deart famous work discar de la

4:48:00

method first made science science this

4:48:03

new conception of science then found its

4:48:06

culmination in Newton under the title

4:48:08

philosophi and

4:48:09

naturalis principia

4:48:12

Mathematica in truth this was not

4:48:14

philosophy in our sense but rather a

4:48:17

physics extended to the entire solar

4:48:19

system it then found its philosophical

4:48:22

justification in K's critique of pure

4:48:24

reason which crushed all dogmatic

4:48:26

metaphysics with its critique for Kant

4:48:30

himself however this was not the

4:48:32

decisive part of his

4:48:34

philosophy this consisted rather in the

4:48:37

reestablishment of metaphysics but on a

4:48:40

new ground of postulate of Freedom

4:48:42

nevertheless the reappropriation of

4:48:45

kantianism in the 19th century had only

4:48:47

the critique of pure reason in mind this

4:48:50

created such a privileged position for

4:48:52

the work that K's moral philosophy

4:48:54

hardly attracted any attention outside

4:48:56

of Germany and even today it is

4:48:59

confronted by baseless

4:49:00

prejudices the same is true for German

4:49:03

idealism as a whole in the Trinity of

4:49:06

fited shelling and Hegel in the wake of

4:49:09

liveness and Kant the the task of

4:49:11

comprehending the whole of the Sciences

4:49:13

became an all-encompassing system of

4:49:15

philosophy under the title that Hegel

4:49:17

had chosen Encyclopedia of the

4:49:19

philosophical Sciences shelling had

4:49:22

already recently Incorporated natural

4:49:24

philosophy into his philosophy as the

4:49:26

physical proof of transcendental

4:49:28

idealism and Hegel followed suit

4:49:31

nevertheless under the 19th century

4:49:34

ascendency of natural scientific

4:49:36

research natural philosophy was quickly

4:49:39

forgotten perhaps even too quickly in

4:49:42

any case the age of the science of

4:49:44

nature or of History was no age for

4:49:47

philosophy it is telling enough that in

4:49:49

the post hegelian epic the well-known

4:49:51

distinction between the Natural Sciences

4:49:53

and the human Sciences has become a

4:49:55

constant theme and has tried to ground

4:49:57

The Sciences philosophically as

4:50:00

epistemology with this I have reached a

4:50:02

point at which the question of a

4:50:04

confrontation between the science of

4:50:06

antiquity with the science of modernity

4:50:08

in the very posing of the question has

4:50:10

already become doubtful these are

4:50:13

precisely two very different conceptions

4:50:15

of Science and I do not think we can

4:50:17

verify it as a conceptual distinction by

4:50:19

means of the concept of nature itself

4:50:23

this lies directly at the heart of the

4:50:24

concept of scientific method which

4:50:27

itself even makes the application of a

4:50:29

difference between the Natural Sciences

4:50:31

and the human Sciences

4:50:33

questionable this is the extent of my

4:50:35

exposition of the ancient background of

4:50:37

the European concept of science the

4:50:39

concept through which which European

4:50:41

culture dominates the entire Globe

4:50:44

people are constantly trying to bring

4:50:47

the unity of science to Bear against its

4:50:49

differences and this holds true even for

4:50:51

the problematic to which our present

4:50:53

discussion is

4:50:54

dedicated if we look only to the

4:50:56

position of modern physics then we

4:50:59

cannot help but recognize the ancient

4:51:01

Heritage within it a Heritage that is

4:51:03

present above all in the development of

4:51:07

mathematics on the other hand the

4:51:09

concept of nature is itself has rarely

4:51:11

been a theme of The Sciences as such

4:51:14

rather we count it as an episode in

4:51:16

Middle European intellectual history

4:51:18

that Russo's critique of the

4:51:19

Enlightenment and its intellectual

4:51:21

arrogance was heard all across Europe

4:51:24

German Romanticism became the Heartland

4:51:26

from out of which even the human

4:51:28

Sciences received their particular stamp

4:51:31

in hold erlin we find the line Nature

4:51:34

has now awakened with the Force of Arms

4:51:37

one could hardly have heard anything

4:51:39

like this again in the middle of our

4:51:41

Century in reaction to the Industrial

4:51:43

Revolution a new flourishing of

4:51:45

technocracy and its accompanying

4:51:47

bureaucracy first led to a

4:51:48

reappropriation of the concept of nature

4:51:51

which we all know by the ecological

4:51:53

catchphrase the conservation of nature

4:51:57

in our Century the leading natural

4:51:59

scientific disciplines without which the

4:52:02

situation of the Sciences is quite

4:52:04

Unthinkable continue to be physics the

4:52:06

theory of relativity and quantum physics

4:52:10

here the problems at the limits of the

4:52:12

measuring Sciences have eliminated the

4:52:14

last vestage of intuitiveness by means

4:52:16

of the complete mathematical formulation

4:52:18

of physics the concept of nature in

4:52:21

philosophy has been replaced by

4:52:23

symmetrical

4:52:24

equations it will be our task to discuss

4:52:27

whether or not the situation of today's

4:52:29

Natural Sciences can also among its

4:52:32

other new emphases lead to a new kind of

4:52:34

confrontation with the ancient Heritage

4:52:36

of science today to a certain extent one

4:52:40

could expect biochemistry which

4:52:43

currently deals with problems that we

4:52:45

associate with the concept of fsus

4:52:47

living growing nature to be placed at

4:52:49

the center of research

4:52:51

interests but it could be that the

4:52:53

discredited philosophy of nature in

4:52:55

addition to remembering the ancient

4:52:57

concept of physis will make new problem

4:53:00

Horizons visible this remains to be seen

4:53:04

one thing we should not expect from this

4:53:07

however is that the opposition between

4:53:09

the Natural Sciences and the human

4:53:11

Sciences could be diminished by

4:53:12

incorporating the dimension of time and

4:53:14

the evolution of the

4:53:16

universe the opposite is the case since

4:53:19

with our new interests we know more and

4:53:21

more about the history of the universe

4:53:23

and about process and reality three we

4:53:26

become clearly conscious once again of

4:53:28

the complete otherness of that world of

4:53:30

knowledge constructed upon memory

4:53:32

remembrance and tradition the life world

4:53:34

and along with it even the so-called

4:53:37

human

4:53:38

Sciences both the religious and and the

4:53:40

philosophical Heritage of our Western

4:53:42

culture come to life in this world again

4:53:44

and again in a certain sense however we

4:53:48

should not see the otherness of the

4:53:50

human Sciences as being directly opposed

4:53:52

to the Natural Sciences and the human

4:53:55

Sciences are not about Romantic Dreams

4:53:57

either we should not forget it is nature

4:54:00

itself that has impelled us towards

4:54:03

culture thus the fact that we cannot

4:54:05

survive without culture continues to be

4:54:08

true as

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well

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