學霸公開矽谷水果公司非工程師薪水 @JerrySaysCheese

Hello everyone, I'm Terry. Today, I invited Jerry to share with you the experience of non-engineering engineers and their salary in the big city of Bay Area. Jerry is currently managing a supply chain in a country and has also worked in China and Singapore. In the video, Jerry will also share some of his experience of working in China and his internship experience. So remember to watch it to the end. Today's video is special.

Generally speaking, the audience who come to my channel are all engineering, writing code, or product. And today Jerry is working in a big factory. A fruit factory. A fruit factory. Actually, Jerry is doing supply chain. Just supply chain. Tell everyone a little bit about your work.

可以啊,我负责的是某一个产品线的 supply chain management 那细部来讲的话就是 demand forecasting 除了 forecast 消费者会买多少量之外 我也要发生产计划去给工厂 比较偏向是 support supporting function 就是在一间公司里面 如果这个公司是有卖实体 product 的话

通常會有一些 operations team 裡面可能又有 supply chain 是比較 physical 比如說產線的管理 生產製造 然後品質工程 或者是像我們是做 planning 包括後來的渠道 logistics 物流 要怎麼樣把 product deliver 給終端消費者 我們這部門主要是 降低營運成本 去 support sales 我們不是在前線打仗的部隊 是在後勤補給的部隊

So there are a lot of simulations to see which way can reduce the cost of the hospital. Yes, it can reach the maximum solution. For example, the inventory in your storage can't be too high. If it's too high, it's not good for the company's wealth. It's not very efficient. Can you share with us how long you've been doing this? It's been six years. You weren't in the United States before, right? Yes, I was in a country in China. It's weird to say a country.

I was a Chinese engineer in 2017. I worked as a Chinese engineer for two years. After that, I was a Chinese engineer in Singapore. I worked there for another two years. At that time, I thought that life should rest. I wanted to see a different world. So I applied to a school in the United States. Later, I went to MIT. MIT is for... Supply Chain Management. Really, you studied supply chain management in college.

What did you study in college? I studied general management science in college. I taught management at a university. Then I studied MBA at the University of Taiwan. But the MBA at the University of Taiwan doesn't require you to have work experience. Do you have two? I have two master's degrees.

Wow, you are a genius. No, no, the audience of Harry should know that many people came here to study in order to get their identity. I don't like to study, but I read a book and make friends. By the way, there is an OPT who can stay here to work. Two professors are MIT teachers, I don't like to study. Not like to study. Now in China, Singapore, and then study in the United States, I entered the headquarters in California, the United States. Yes, this period has been six years in total. Six years of study.

I often share the engineer's salary on my channel. This episode is more about the support function of non-engineering, non-products. What is the salary of a big tech company? You can talk about the start and how it is now. Many tech companies in the US are divided into IC or level. In the world of operations or supply chain, many things are talking about program managers. Is it a general called program manager?

But my department is quite special We call ourselves Planner Demand Planner or Supply Planner But our attributes are quite like Program Manager Because everyone will own a product For example, you are the Demand Planner of the next generation of Xiaomi phones So IC2 is about 200 total comps? It's about 200

And the base should be around $130. In Bay Area? Yes. The refresher every year may take 20K to 40K. Target's cash bonus is about 10%. It's not the same as what you did in Singapore, right? It's more about the RSU part. Even in Singapore, high income and low income tax places, its RSU is only one-third. Only one-third of the United States. Yes. In places other than the United States, the stock is relatively small. Yes.

So the first time you entered Apple was IC2? Oh no, because before I entered Apple I already had a three-month working experience in Taiwan's HP. The technology field likes to dig competitors. There are exactly the same departments and skillsets. So at that time, I was doing exactly the same thing in HP. Supply Demand Planning.

Is it the first job? Yes, the first job. How much is IC3 package? In Shanghai, China. In China, it is 20,000 RMB. Disclaimer, this is in 2017. Before the beginning of the project. Yes, isn't there a five-star epidemic in China? The so-called epidemic is the 10% of the housing fund. Because I am an outsider, he directly cashed 10%. Plus, I chose Chengdu at that time. There will be a city premium in the second-tier cities. Just let some talents be willing to go to the second-tier cities.

如果你選擇去成都就是15% 去鄭州有25% 等於說底薪2萬的名幣加上25% 然後是13薪 那RSU呢? 我覺得平均6,000-7,000到1萬美金 每一年的performance之後的refresher

I believe it should be more now Next is to Singapore Singapore's bottom rate is about 8,000 new coins That's a lot higher It's 60% higher than the bottom rate compared to Chengdu And tax But the consumption of Chengdu is much lower Much lower If you are interested in the details of the past salary You can go to the video I made before I have all the income

breakdown to be listed I think everyone should be more curious about your current salary How about in the United States? Give a range Just like me, I finished my master's degree in the United States Then people with 3-5 years of work experience Usually give IC3 IC3, then in general My average student base salary is about 145k It is the standard of 2022 But you are IC4 Yes, I am IC4 Because they helped me work for four years in China and Singapore Considered the annual salary

So IC4 is... It's a base that can be more than 160. When we signed on its contract, it wrote a target 10% performance bonus. As long as it reaches this expectation, it will have 10%. Right. What about RSU? RSU is the RSU you got in the entry and the performance you got every year. The RSU you got in the entry, at that time, the classmate was about 100K.

IC4 IC4 is higher, more than 160. Like our company is divided into four years. Twice a year So you have eight VEST For example, you now get an RSU total number. If you give it eight times and then give it four years, it is one-eighth of every six months. But in the middle, I haven't considered appreciation. Yes, the stock price will rise.

And then you will refresh it every year. Yes. What is its refresh method? No matter how much you got before. This performance review cycle The boss will tell you Refresher, for example, 40,000 Then you start from that time point. Look back again After half a year, add 5,000 up. After a year, take another 5,000 But you have to add what you used to take.

So every time you use Refresher, you add 8 Vestin Tarot cards? Yes. This means that the longer you stay, the higher your Comp will be, especially when you add real value to your stock. Yes. So many people may say that Apple is going to retire soon. Usually, if you want to live more comfortably in the late years, you may jump to Google. When you jump to Google, you can negotiate with Google's HR. Given that I already have so many Apple stocks, I will talk to them about higher Comp.

Yes. But Google has related work in the supply chain. Like now there are Pixel Phone, Chromebook, some hardware for smart furniture. Even a company that stores software, their internal server purchases also require supply chain folks to do it. Or every server, which side of the world do we deploy is more efficient. How to distribute the capacity and storage to different products.

So we are actually a group of Bayer's default software engineers. But in fact, we are a supply chain. It's not fancy and feels like it's been excluded. But I think your total comp is actually similar to software engineers. A little bit lower. Your TC is probably IC4. Not refresh first. The first year is probably 32. It's the same salary as an engineer. Do you think in the sixth year of Apple? Based on your experience in the one area,

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I will put the link in the description below Or you can also scan this QR code After listening to the interview I believe many people may not be engineers writing codes or making products If you want to enter a large company like Shibu Do you have any suggestions from the perspective of the future? Actually, you seem to have said it on your channel Recommend people who are studying to intern Actually, it's almost the same for supply chain operations We are usually managerial skills

Right.

So when you are interviewing for the first internship You can talk about these social experience Like me at that time 12 years ago I was an intern at Microsoft in Taiwan That opportunity is very good At that time, Microsoft recruited 100 students every year Then they praised the unlimited science and technology and the results It depends on your previous social experience and personality traits Will you go to school? I will go to school too Not because of all kinds of national schools Private schools have

They advertised this and then I met a group of very talented interns from Taiwan and China. Now everyone is developing in different industries. And then I learned a lot during that year of internship. No matter how companies run their business, how to run projects, how to run activities. And then starting from here, my second internship is in the pharmaceutical factory in Moshadong, Meishan. I interviewed an intern from financial planning.

When I introduced myself, he knew I had an internship at Microsoft. He admitted that your Office must be very strong. Your Excel should be very strong. I did some small tests and then I was admitted. But in fact, what I did at Microsoft was Windows, not Office. But I think this is a little lucky. You do the right thing first, and then it will take you to a more correct and better direction. A lot of things are accumulated one by one. So my third and fourth internship went quite smoothly. I was in Texas Instruments in Texas. Then in Yahoo, it's all big and small.

What do you think they value when they enter Apple? I think they really value your previous experience. Like I said, I was in HP in the previous part. I was also doing Supply Demand Planning. They really like to come directly from the first-hand camp. Wow, there are people with the same skill set. Will it be difficult to prepare for the interview? I think it's okay. Because now some skill sets are learned from my on-job training. So it won't be difficult for me.

很多人會覺得難的部分是behavioral questions 那behavioral questions 我就會推薦大家去看 Amazon 的16個leadership principles 然後把每一個principle 底下的小example或小principle 去用一頁slide 試著問自己說 你被問到這個問題 你會怎麼回答

and then use more structural methods to list them out. Before the interview, you just practice with these slides. Basically, you can play the game of "The World's Most Unique". OK. For your function interview, you need to take some professional techniques, hard skills. I was asked about a case study at that time. The HR will give you a set of questions three days before the final interview. Such as supply, demand planning, or operation. They will give you some numbers and some simulations. Then you have time to make a decision in advance.

給你Excel 然後你可能要做slides去present 但不會考什麼coding之類的 對 太硬了 應該沒有你硬啦 我不知道 很難說 到底Terry多硬 可以到我的頻道看一下 硬度開箱影片

Alright, thanks Jerry for sharing his experience of making a fruit. If you are interested in Jerry's experience, you can check out Jerry's channel. My channel is called Jerry Says Cheese. Share tips on how to live a beautiful life, or some vlogs. If you think this video is helpful, remember to like and subscribe. See you next time.