What is the ideal for Indonesia? Actually, I'm not worried about AI changing us. But I'm more worried about AI. We will change our ability to think. Will replace our ability to speak with AI. Mr. Pepe, maybe someone wants to have a dialogue or
I would like to ask you all a few questions for this session. Please, Arief. Hello, everyone. My name is Anary Wadiwipo. I am a student at the Andalusian University of Nizamiya, Grade 6. The interesting thing is what Mr. Anies said earlier.
There are some things that I want to discuss with you about the curriculum. It's interesting what you said, how some countries can lift up their education and finally produce good output. If I read some of the versions, there are actually some factors in the curriculum. Some countries adopt it in a different way.
Some are more academic oriented, while others are more flexible. Maybe in European countries, they are more flexible by focusing on skills and characters that they develop. But if we go to countries that are still active in Asia, are they more academic oriented? In my opinion,
What is the best way for Indonesia, or from your experience as a minister, what is the best way for Indonesia? And is our hope, not only for me, but for all the parents in Indonesia, that education will be a factor
in Indonesia. Maybe that's all from me, sir. So, in your opinion, what is the best curriculum for Indonesia? Thank you, Assalamualaikum, Mr. Director. Assalamualaikum, Mr. Director, Mr. Anies. I'm Si April, a student from AIREL. I'm a student at Nizaminya, Class 4.
My question is actually not as much as Marco's, but rather as a question to my concern with the speed of technology, with the AI. Actually, I'm not worried that AI will replace us.
But I'm more worried about AI. We will need our ability to think. We will need our ability to communicate with AI. Because for me, humans will always innovate, have high capabilities. While AI collects collectively all the knowledge that it knows, but there is no real content.
Introduce, I'm Ratna, a parent from Neva, class 8A in Bisenian.
I'm very impressed with what you've said, Mr. Anies, regarding the role of parents. You said that parents are important but not always ready. And I often feel that as a parent.
There is no formal school for the elderly. Unlike in high school, there are already curricula for the adults. Meanwhile, for the elderly, there are no curricula for the adults. And there is a proverb that says, "Bewake my child according to his age." So, when I was young, my age was different from the current age.
I don't want to ask, I want you to share your experience as a parent. Because I see that Mr. Anies and Mrs. Ferry can educate their daughters very well. Not only from the academic side, but also their daughters have positive attitudes.
And there is no drama that we will see. And also, congratulations to Ms. Tia on her student
The fact that the NPDB continued its studies at Harvard University is very inspiring. Please share this with us so that we can help the children to plant their sincerity. Because the children are there to learn, to plant their passion to fight.
I'm sorry, once again. My name is Dovenia.
I'm a woman from Iwin
I'm in 9th grade, and I'm currently in the 9th grade of the University of Indonesia. I'd like to ask more about the access to the internet in this era, especially for the young generation. I've seen a lot of parents
It's not clear how dangerous it is to give free access to children. Even the ones who are closer to me are a bit difficult to limit their children. Because sometimes it comes from things that are not always suspected, such as gaming and other things. As I heard, Australian governments have started to limit access to children.
For Indonesia, do you think the government can do the same thing or at least there are lobbies for that? Because as we all know, the pornography of other people on earth is very, very different.
Without the help from the government, it seems that parents are not aware that access to the internet is a tool that can be used. Like if you have a knife, you can use it to cut people. So this is something that really worries me, especially with the number of LGBT people.
All of them are not in accordance with the values of our religion and culture. That's all. Thank you, Miss. So, please, Mr. Harian, can you answer the questions from the four people in the audience? Yes. Thank you, Mr. Harian, first, about the curriculum. The curriculum is important. In our opinion, the teacher is more important. Where is the teacher?
I think you are more important than the curriculum. So, you like to study because of the book or the teacher? Is that right? Yes, the teacher. So, I often analogize it like a torch. The torch is the torch, then the child of the torch is like our curriculum. But the torch is the teacher. If we keep on shaking, what we replace is the torch.
But the one who never gets angry is seriously raised to be a mom. If the curriculum is delivered well, because the curriculum intensity is all good, but the problem is delivery. It's true, if we want to encourage our children to continue their education in international schools, they need academic requirements.
academic requirements are met by certain teachers. But actually our lives are not academic requirements, right? Our lives are to develop his ability to be number one, a learner. There, in my opinion, the key word is the teacher. So if I can choose, sir, I will tend to choose to encourage our teachers to have a teacher's character so that the children have a teacher's character.
So that the learning process, even though the academic is strong, but later he will be able to grow all the characteristics that are needed, the ability to communicate, the ability to collaborate, the ability to think critically, the ability to be creative, it can be developed with a good teacher.
I have the tendency to encourage that. If we pay attention, there are countries, if you show the term academic orientation, which may not be too heavy in academic achievement, that's just a training, sir. Like if we, we, what, equip children for a skill
then the method can be various, but at the end we must realize that children are not only getting high academic values, but also growing learning characteristics. So if I may, our focus is on teachers, and if teachers, it means who is the teacher at home? That's him! Who is the teacher at home? Parents.
This is related to the next question, perhaps it is important for us to summarize. Have you ever had a marriage proposal? A marriage proposal to summarize the ten characteristics that this family wants to have. Ten. This family wants to have ten characteristics, ten characters. If the character is worked continuously, the name is?
Habit. If it goes on and on, it's called Buddhist culture. Isn't it family culture? The question is, have we ever summarized our ten family characteristics? If not, let's start. So just summarize it. Ten, fifteen, twenty, whatever. Five is okay too. It's each individual agreement, right? But if it exists, we feel we have a grip. Oh yes, we want to work on it. Just flowing is good.
But don't think about what to do later. Just think about what to do later. This is just a starting point. Then at home, what do we need to do? Well, you don't have to imagine this as a school. There will be a schedule A, B, C. No. That's just a guideline. For us, oh yes, this is a bit less attention for a few months. In the future, we will pay attention to that.
But it's the grip that we need. Like in school, we have values. "Do you work in a corporation? Do you have corporate values?" Yes, we do. At home, we usually take it for granted. "The most important thing is Sakina, mawadah, warohmah." "But what is Sakina?" "What are the order?" It can't be abstract. It's best to be as abstract as possible.
That's the origin. So, about the academic, then Mr. Safri, about technology. I said it was important to ask the teacher, right? Can teachers not be replaced by technology? There are teachers there. The ones who look are only mothers. Can you not replace technology? Huh? True? Are you sure? Today there is news that LGBT has already overwhelmed humans. Or maybe I'll change the question.
What kind of teacher can be replaced by technology? There is, right? There is. What kind of teacher can't be replaced by technology? When the question is changed, we immediately find out that there is someone who can, sir. What kind? Teaching repetitive, teaching mechanistic, the material is only the core.
A can be replaced by technology, but a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is a teacher who is
So how do our children not depend on it? We live in an era that wants to or does not want to interact with technology. And this is our life in the 21st century. Our children are in the 21st century. Nizamiya is a school in the 21st century. But in many places, the children are 21, the teachers are 20, and the schools are 19. That's right.
School age 19, teacher age 20, student age 20. And then we who are under the age of 20 reject it. We can't. Our children will live with... Now how do we direct it? Direct it so that technology does not become a substitute. But technology becomes a guide, for example. Coincidentally, last night my child had to write a paper.
Ismail had to write a paper because he wanted to challenge himself to become a coach. He made a paper and then he talked about what had happened. He said, "I ask you to replace the role of father." What? Every time he wrote, he used it to criticize my writing. What is lacking from what I do? So usually it's handed over to his father.
Then the father read it and commented, "This is not enough, this is not enough, this is not enough." Well, the lack is asked to technology. So technology does not replace him in creation, but technology gives criticism on what he does. Then give perspective, if from a perspective like this, where is the lack? What happens? The creation process is here, but he uses technology to provide
Questions to give criticism, give comments So we push for it to be like that But if it says "You produce without consulting AI" We are closing our children and returning them to the age of 20 It's okay, this is something we as people have to learn So, ladies and gentlemen, on your phone is a tool to learn, often you consult and browse about how to become parents in the 21st century
And you will definitely get new material every week. How to do it so that you can read it. So don't just focus on the seminar. But the seminar in the afternoon will appear with those questions. So, Mr. Safran, it was a good question, sir, what you said, to accompany our children. Then what? This accompaniment has consequences over time.
So, it must be allocated to the husband and wife for the task of when to meet when to be able to consult related to the use of technology. This jumps to the last question. This is about the internet. And this is whether or not all the information that goes into it must have control. In the past, our area was called television. Remember, everyone?
Our nation, including the nation that has the longest TV viewing duration in the world. It turns out that when it is checked, the TV is never turned off. Not watching it all the time. When it turns on at 5 pm, it turns off again at 10 pm. The TV keeps on turning on. Whether someone is sitting or not, the TV keeps on turning on. In the morning, it's not dawn yet, it's on. Someone is sitting, no one is sitting, the TV is still on. So the TV is like life at home, the sound, the sound, the sound.
While there is mass, there is TV. While there are guests, there is TV. So our TV duration is long. Well, our strategy, the TV, was never put in the family room. There was never a TV in the family room. Now we have a TV in the family room.
Why? Because our parents moved to live with us and they always need to watch TV. My father-in-law was born in 1990, my mother was born in 1985. So the era is the early 20s.
Then there was TV, after our parents moved because they got information through television But before that we never had a house, never had a TV in the family room, even the TV was always put outside So if you watch TV, it's like you have to do a special step to go there, 2-3 television How about now the internet? This is a challenge, we also feel the same challenge, especially children who have become native
You can see the screen time and agree on the screen time that is acceptable per week. There is an application, right? The second one, look there, what is being watched? Well, you just talk about what is allowed, what is not allowed, and that is agreed. And who owns that tool, sir? Parents. Don't hesitate. If you don't feel like it, choose your parents. It's troublesome. Who does that choose?
Make it clear to the child, "Who owns this tool?" "It's your mother's. This tool is yours." "You are the owner." Use it according to the owner's will. The owner is the owner.
The time, the duration, not the time, but the duration. And we do it together, not like the police, as a guardian. It's the same for my children. Let's make use of this. So from there, we will create a dialogue, a conversation, and see the screen time, it won't be something secret. And you can browse the history, right? But don't do it for six months at once.
It's working as something that is just relaxing. And don't even schedule a phone check-up at midnight. It's not good, sir. It's not good. Well, it's relaxing. So my idea is to agree on the time, do monitoring, then talk. And if our experience is even, even though we already know, just ask the child. Even though we already know, this is the latest development of AI, how is it? He tells.
the latest development, our children are happy with the formula of racing cars, so what is the development like? later he will show it with his cellphone, so what is his interest is asked using that tool but besides that, we don't want our children to lose interest in hard copy, books, then magazines, and the Koran, so we are still a Koran sponsor, ladies and gentlemen
at home why yes so that there is a newspaper so that the child can still see what is called a newspaper if our parents' era is called a news letter now there is no more, the newspaper is still a newspaper, we still use magazines even though it is said that everything is digital What is the purpose so that at home the child is still holding a paper, still reading a paper and the book is still being read So this is part of what is it
our experiment too, I also as a parent still still learn, ladies and gentlemen and must still learn all the time. I think it's all Buratnah. Buratnah, where is Buratnah? Thank you Buratnah. So we tell a little about the inspiration. I was in school, taking a PhD, on the campus there is this, there is a parenting education for students, we joined. Then when we joined,
Or write it for free. Yes, for free. Free for students. If not for students, pay for it. Poor students. Students, families, etc. Ladies and gentlemen, if school is like that, it takes time. Because there are so many people who are taking their PhD, they need help. Because it's their home.
We couldn't be at Sampi. So if there was a PhD in Sampi, we were also surprised. Especially fast. We were surprised, "How is this possible?" "How can it be?" Because the feeling of being at the PhD was not like that. This is not a question of who, this is a study of our knowledge. Then there was a parenting education. We joined. This is what shocked us, ladies and gentlemen. When we entered on the first day, we were all bought folders.
The binder is this thick. But when we received it, the paper was empty. There was no paper, no content. Empty. So on the first day, we got photocopies of the material in the binder, about 10 sheets. We filled in 10 sheets. The 10 sheets were opened, and they all had questions.
Questions, questions. So the first question is about the family that we have to answer. And as long as we answer the questions, we just reflect on what we are working on. So until the end, following this session, about seven or eight sessions, at the end our binder is full. And it's full not with other people's lessons, but it's full of reflections on what we
Until the conclusion, parenting is a matter of reflection on the value we have Parenting is about how we live, not about how we adopt others So there is no formula from there that we use here But there is a question like before, have we ever agreed on house agreements? Never Have we ever talked about schedule with children? Rarely Have we ever agreed on self-discipline? Never So, list of questions
we as parents often it's like take it for granted even though there are many things that are essentially
The nature of the agreement is that we have to work on it. So if I may, Mr. Ratna, learning about parenting is not just about the theory that we have to apply, but also a reflection on us as parents, our values and how they are implemented in our daily lives. And I'm sure we all have good values, right? But the execution at home is not certain.
good journey, after that the rest will grow by themselves, yes
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