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Seryoga is a cringe show to survive in

Istanbul.

A coward, an actor, a scoundrel and the main villain.

But you immediately caused a storm of emotions in

TV viewers.

I agree with the viewer that this is

looked ambiguous.

You immediately had a conflict with Katya.

Gordon.

Cheating is something I cannot ask for.

They betrayed their comrades.

How did you end up on a reality show?

Well, TNT knows how to convince. Let's do it anyway

One main piece of nutrition advice from Seryoga.

When you eat, don't even try.

Dis on Larisa Dolina.

Thank you, Larisa, for which I am on the street

registered.

And you read fish with Zhirinovsky.

He had absolutely no feeling

rhythm and musical ear.

What are you most ashamed of or what are you

What do you want to forget most of all?

I'm in the game enough to know that

An interview is not a confession.

Seryoga, rapper and hitmaker Black Boomer

and near your house, scandalous

participant of the reality show Survive in Istanbul.

Today I have a guest

rapper, producer, artist, singer,

musician, legend Seryoga. Hello,

Seryozha.

Hello, Alyonushka.

I immediately became so scared.

Why? Why? Let's start with how

did you even manage to get into [laughter]

reality show. Or rather, the way you

got sucked into a reality show.

Well, we will tell the truth, yes.

to people. We don't have any secrets from

spectators. Alena, you won't believe it, it's very

for a long time

they invited me and asked me directly

came and participated. This is really true.

And therefore this is a question that does not

for me, this is for the producers. Why is that?

They really asked: “Refresh our format,

You are needed." We really need such a character

We've been waiting for a long time. Necessarily.

Here. Well, in essence, well, TNT can do it

convince.

Why did you refuse?

I didn't plan it at all

participate in a reality show. This is such a

a rather controversial experiment,

especially for people my age.

Well, this is some kind of survival show.

There is. That's why it's such a stick of two

at the ends, as it were, yes, that is, controversial

very experimental. So it wasn't

just agree on everything. But before that you

I looked at similar projects, what's there?

happened?

Never, never watched it in its entirety

one episode. Before entering this

reality, yes, survive in Istanbul, I

I looked, I was forced to look, well,

To be honest, I watched one episode.

to survive in Samarkan, well, so that

more or less present itself in the format.

But,

eh, so I arrived in Istanbul, definitely not

knowing the rules, yes, that is, it is impossible to say,

that I was already tempted in these

twists and turns, in all, yes, rules. And by

In fact, I was not prepared, yes, because

what is already clear now is that in fact

the first test that we are very

by a large margin, with a big advantage

won against the people's team, which,

Of course they didn't show it. That's when we

They chose Irina from two birds in a cage,

So

and not you. That is, this was the main thing

strategic mistake. That is, now

I already understand that it was a mistake, and

I should have taken you, the one like you

player like you.

Well, the star team is in the yard,

Friends.

And now they will open me, and I will do

three steps in my heels, I'll take this

the key and I'll go hang out.

Open me faster.

Decent girl, looks great.

Nrachka

open.

Are you crazy or something?

with us?

Well, did anyone ask for your opinion?

You've decided that's it, we're not taking it.

Alena, damn it, we don't need her.

It was just there on a biological level.

some decision has been made. That is us

were in such an adrenaline rush

courage after this rapid and

impressive

victories at the first test. Yes, we are.

felt like a team,

felt like superhumans,

Everyone was overcome with this euphoria. AND

that's why we understood each other there and

they read each other's thoughts just like that

level of views. Here. And I'm honest with you

I'll say there were two people who decided

your destiny. This is uh Katya and I, because

We were closest to the cage. And we

looked at each other and I showed

So, well, I'm showing Katya something like this

something like, well, what the hell,

Yes, yes. Take it and she says: "Yes, yes, you,

We'll dump it, like, we don't need it and that's it."

But you immediately caused a storm of emotions in

TV viewers.

Well, it's montage, montage. A,

Wait, let's go through it point by point. U

What is editing and what is not editing.

The very first thing is, uh, of course, yours

meeting with the people's participant Irina,

which you offered to earn a handkerchief,

which you gave to all participants,

he said: “But I haven’t given it to you yet,

"You have to earn it."

If you pass the test today,

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then this scarf is yours.

I didn't come here for the Seryozhnys.

gifts, I came here to play.

And, naturally, the hate began. How so?

Can? What kind of dismissive

attitude towards a girl from the people? Why

they address her so derogatorily?

Why is it put in a deliberately certain position?

a lower level compared to us,

stars? Let's have this moment

Let's figure it out. How it was

until the moment when Irina joined in

our ranks? We didn't know that she

will come. We have already managed to become, well, in my

in the eyes and in the eyes of some comrades

We already managed to become mine there

a team, right? That is, we managed to become

As a team, we became friends. After all, there is a very

there is something that is not shown to us, there is something

what is beyond the editing boundaries,

kind of, yes. People need to get to know each other

with each other, people should

feel if there is something between them

understanding chemistry. Here. And that's all

happens in a very short time, as if,

Yes. Here. And here we have already passed,

It turns out, through this test.

Well, that is to say, here it is, this test

The twenty-minute session brought you closer together.

We prepared for this test. That is

Here are the conversations that precede

this test, the way we

we were getting ready, yes, the way we discussed it

strategy, all this was not shown.

That is, this process, like people

find paths to each other, yes, as they

get to know each other as they begin

feel some kind of disposition towards

attitude towards each other. This is all not

it was shown, yes, and therefore the audience,

Of course, I got the impression that as

well, here's Ira

on equal terms

positions

took part in our show already this

moment. Actually, it's not like that. That is

For us it was a surprise, news and

a certain challenge, yes, from

producers. Yes. That means you have to

understand that this show is about what? About that,

What

famous people, well, that is, I'm talking from

the team's prospects now, well,

artists, famous people are placed in,

well, let's say, in an uncomfortable situation

circumstances, yes, where they manifest

your best and worst quality, yes, that is

there they are, they are in a state

pressure. And there are a lot of cameras

He doesn't show the filming process there.

remains behind the scenes. For example, no

rash, yes, when constantly

the schedule shifts and you're already on the first

day, but if you're not used to it, you already

you just get tired there by the end of the evening, you don't

do you understand what he is telling you?

synchronous, you're nervous and angry there,

irritable, especially with girls

concerns. And we've been through this before, haven't we?

I know, uh, Irina, we won the tests,

won by a large margin only

thanks to the fact that we found uh

understanding each other, that is, we discussed

some strategy, that is, collectively

we made decisions, we knew each other

hear, were able to observe together

for what is happening. That is, we were

one well-coordinated mechanism on the first

test, so we won by a large margin

breakaway, right? That is, there was no such thing,

how they showed the audience that there is

the leader and he controls everyone. No,

No. From the very beginning we had

democracy, right? That is us

we agreed, discussed all of this

with each other, and we got along great

with each other. Here. And that is why the appearance

these golden cages, and in which you

was and in which Irina was, we

perceived as a certain provocation

from the producers, right? Because, well, what?

should we wait? only provocations, only

deterioration, because they are observing

behind everything that's happening. They need

interesting show. As soon as we have everything

Okay, the sine wave should go down.

fall, right? That is, the graph should go down.

to go down and become bad.

If we can handle it, then maybe it will be

a slight relaxation, and then it will become even more

worse, even more difficult. And then to the viewer

It's interesting to watch. The viewer is not interested

watch a hero who has everything

Fine. Therefore, I, as a person,

Well, I understand drama, that is me.

I read all of this perfectly. Here. And

tried to make sure that we all were

ready for testing. And when

in front of us were these two cells, here

we immediately

Katya and I exchanged glances, as if we

we both considered this, yes, what if we

let's take it, well, that is, the producers want,

so that we choose Alena, well, because

this solution is afloat, that is, it is here

surfaces, so we need from

to act contrary. That is, we do not

Let's take it, we'll take the populist. But when

We took Ira, that doesn't mean that we

she was accepted into the team by default,

no matter what is said there for discussion.

Because some participants

questions arose, Kirina, after that,

how she let it slip that she had

some kind of parting words from you, yes, you are there

taught her something, as if they had started her

asking, she began to get confused

testimony.

Did you also suspect her of spying?

We got interested in her, right? That is us

they started asking who, what, where from,

how she was a little confused there

testimony. Well, yeah, well, since that's it.

The game is not about that, Seryozha, it's about

I'm telling, I'm telling. So,

look, the moment with the scarves, yes, so

to make it clear. One of the moments

associations,

that is, the unifying moment, the moment

initiations, how we became a team together,

yes, that is, there were these bandanas with

image of a lion. That is, it is like this

there was a ritual. And each participant had

And what about the lion, by the way?

Well, we are a pride,

and you are the main lion.

No, we are a pride of lions, each of which

has a voice. That's how it was at first. Well no

We came to this show as hares,

Right? That is, hares can't

win. Lions can win. Lions don't

run away from trials, go forward and

win. Even if one of us

whatever remains, we will all win. That is, here it is

That was the idea. And this moment with

handkerchiefs, it was a moment

initiating, yes, unifying. Was

six scarves, we didn't know. That is to say, I don't

I knew that Irina would come. Here. And on that one

the moment she appeared with us, then

I just didn't have a scarf. If

If there was, I would have given it to her.

You could have given away your scarf.

It was possible, yes, it was possible. Here. But

then in the frame it happened.

That is, when we are the next day

discussed

with Irina, yes, that, probably, is still to her

it would be right to go to the test for

so as not to weaken the team now

and at the same time show your readiness. That

Yes, she came to win, she came

show yourself. She watched all these

reality, all these shows. That is, she is she

She even knew the rules better than some

of us. This is indeed true. IN

as an encouragement to something like, yes, I

suggested to her, yes, that you would become

full-fledged

a member of our pride, and you will have

plateau. That is, they took it into editing. That

there is, but it wasn't, let's say, it wasn't

it wasn't said that way or presented that way,

as if someone wanted to humiliate her. Well,

uh, let's start with the fact that, um,

when we got her, uh, we were very

she was received warmly,

that is, I spoke with her personally and,

I think even a few hours, yes, then

There is

setting it up,

trying to understand

her life, what she went through, because

that she had a lot to tell,

telling how everything happens here

us, yes, that we are normal people, we

the same people from the people. the stars are those

they are people from the people. That is to say, we are very

She was received warmly. Moreover, she lived with

us in the best apartments after that,

How did uh Katerina leave? Before this, Katerina

lived in the best apartments. And she lived in

the best apartments, because when

pulled out the keys

Ekaterina Gordon,

Yes, I pulled out the last one from the apartment

key. Well, everyone took out the keys and that's it.

The last one was left, that is, I took it. AND

it turned out that these were the most

luxurious, this is the master suite

they pointed it out. And when I saw that Katya

my eyes lit up when we walked into this

room, we went into these apartments, I

I just gave her the keys. That is, Katya

lived, she didn't even ask for it back, lived

in the most luxurious apartments. After

none of us remember how she left

took over these apartments and settled there

Irochka. Yes. That is, she lived like a queen.

You can't get enough air before you die. Then they

This Yura was sent.

No, I'm saying this because we have

In fact, the relationship was very warm

among themselves. So, no one wanted Ira.

to offend. There were just six scarves, she

there was no scarf. But nevertheless, her

then as

She was sent. Not because she didn't have one

scarf. No, not because, but because

majority majority

I wanted to test it this way

and protect the team from relegation too

earlier than a stronger player. That is,

since I was not a leader, I was not

dictator, I suggested initially

lot. This is indeed true.

But then at least two participants

suggested another idea, right? That is you

Just think about it, it could be like that, but what

if yes? Because we were already there then

team, that is, we were thinking about

the team was moving forward, right? That is us

they could just weaken the team, then

there is talk about the fact that someone there is afraid and

go to the tests. I can say this,

that among the participants, among all

participants who took part in this reality show

participation, there were no people at all, well, who

I was afraid.

Cowards don't come to reality TV. There is no

among the populists, not among the teams, among

There were no such people among artists. This is a speech

That's not what this is about at all. Well, essentially it's the same

We do not take a person's life. That is, what

is he taking a risk? He just leaves and that's it. Here

so since it was a collective

the solution, yes, in the eyes of the viewer it is,

It may be controversial, but it's a game and we

We are constantly dynamically changing our strategy.

You understand that a game is a game, but

the audience looks through the eyes of ordinary people,

for whom actions are important. men by

attitude towards women, actions of strong men

attitude towards the weak. And all of this

the image of that very player is formed

reality. Look who I understood. Well,

Look, someone who is here is the audience.

happy to watch this show, like

The Olympics are watched by spectators, right? That is

there are those who organize the Olympics,

there are those who participate and the rest

the lucky ones are those who watch, those who

who are watching. That is, we, being

inside, having already formed this

team and understanding that we can

survive, so to speak, yes, that is

to endure all these trials only

team, we were already thinking about the team, yes,

that is, it is team thinking, that is,

It's not about the fact that I'm, uh, afraid, no

I'll go and substitute someone weaker

weak player. That is, we are several

goals were pursued. First, check

Ira. Well, I mean, you were preparing to play,

You even know the rules better than we do.

She was preparing to play just like you were.

everything to check it.

Great. Great. Here you go. And how did you suddenly

did it appear?

Why

for some reason something is not up to Yes, something is not up to

you're negotiating.

Moreover, it is possible that

some participants already have

some prejudices towards

them, yes, because,

Well, what the picture shows, yes, and

what it really is, that is how it is

the person behaves like a human

communicates, that is, what is the feeling he has

causes, that is, it could be

there is even some kind of antipathy among some of them

participants.

I think she's like a girl from the people,

she was just scared that she was in

For the first time in my life, first of all, I flew

abroad, secondly, I found myself among

all the stars. And they even voted for it

her. To be honest, I felt really sorry.

unfortunate Yura, who was immediately

pushed out. But the most interesting thing is that in

the star team immediately started swearing,

and you have already entered into such

mini-conflicts. And in particular, you have

a conflict with Katya Gordon immediately occurred.

Why did you get into a fight with her?

Alena, look, reality, yes, that's it.

a small parallel life. Here. And I

I don't know what kind of people

The participants of the show are some of them

in real life. I don't know, maybe I am

I'll never know.

But when you're in reality, you

you subordinate all your actions

a certain logic within the framework of this

small life and read the actions

other participants also within this

logic. That is, we were already at that point.

time when this happened

the incident in my eyes, not only in mine

eyes, a close-knit team. That is

we were already a group of comrades, yes, then

there is conditionally this pride. Here. And that,

what did they do to us in Istanbul, then,

in the city center in front of cameras

Katerina Mia, and in my eyes within the framework

this little life, reality show is called

treason. Well, treason is something that I don’t

I can forgive.

And what did they do? I'm not with you.

was. They decided to delegate the whole

people's anger from this complex,

difficult collective decision in

in relation to and towards

several of his comrades, despite

the fact that this decision is difficult,

collective, yes, it was adopted together and

it was accepted by the entire team,

but for some reason the girls thought that

It would be better to arrange something like this

counter-conspiracy here and expose us

idiots, fools, cowards

inconsistently

active. At that moment they

committed the most terrible and horrible thing

a crime in my eyes, which

it just might be. They betrayed their own

comrades. It doesn't matter how they explain it

this act of yours. In the eyes of the audience

They looked like defenders, people's representatives.

I want to tell you this, we all came out of

people, the stars fell from the sky.

Here one people's team competes with

another. It's just that some people only fall down,

and others may fall upwards.

That is, we made a common decision. Here. AND

at this moment

the decision was such that it

satisfied everyone absolutely. Even Ira,

that's when I had this conversation with her

happened, but she was smiling and it was

a sincere smile. She said, "Yes,

"Guys, I'm going, I want to." And then I

said to the guys "Magiya and Kuzya: "Look,

"How cool is she?" That is, we don't

made a mistake. Here. And after the trip to

in the car suddenly they arrange this

I think that such a provocation is in my

in my eyes and not only in my eyes, where we

we just look unflattering

in the eyes of the viewer, yes. That is, in my

In my understanding, this is cheap populism -

this is some kind of election campaign where

they just wanted to cut coupons from

spectators, audience attention coupons,

charm. Did I understand correctly that Katya

Gordon and Mia Boyko were originally

agree with your plan to nominate for

test poor Irina? And in some

For now we won't call the poor one?

Let's not call the poor. There

everyone can leave. Everyone there is poor. You

Do you understand what the matter is? Just a team

I decided to do it this way.

So we had a chance to stay

strong. We needed them back then

At one point we thought we needed strong

players, yes, who already trusted each other

to each other, knew each other. That is the same thing

such a human choice. Well, I don't want to

break up with you. We're already used to it

to each other. Yes, and here it comes

a new person who is still leading

myself somewhere controversially, maybe, yes,

some make it clear

statement. Let's check it out, let's

It will do, why not. And it's true

is that we found ourselves

you are right. So she was really

the link that was supposed to make the contribution

discord. Just like you, I guess.

people's team. That means you have to

understand that we, when we realized that

I think I would be on any team

brought discord.

Well, in ours we would use you as

ram. You already understand.

So in that one they used me too.

Well, you would just feel more comfortable in ours.

be. You would have soulful

interlocutors. I But it’s more interesting, of course,

It would be for me.

Let's finish this story. That is,

look, within the framework of this little life

Katerina and Mia did the most terrible thing

crime. Treason. Karavaitsa is

crime. death penalty

only Yes, absolutely right. Therefore in

at this moment a group of comrades who

felt justified, I

I consider them loyal because

there weren't any girls at all

a single motive to act this way. With them

We communicated very well, very

respectfully. Nobody had a plan

somehow play against them there, yes, and

merge one after another. That is to say, it is not

there was some

there is a conspiracy of three or a conspiracy of four. AND

the most illogical, the most illogical was

the fact is that by doing this they simply

the votes weren't even counted. That is, they

were in the minority from the very beginning, then

They had no chance whatsoever. You

when I approached

So, it's time for a vote and something there

I was talking about strategy, about

tactics, try Masha on your own there

attract the other side. There are no options

was. There was no chance.

No, there was an option and there was a chance. Let me explain.

the moment when you yourself said, you are all to me

I'm tired of it, I'm going to go today

small claim now let's get back to this.

Fine. Look, that is very important.

moment. That is, none of us thought

from those comrades who remained,

Yes, that is, this pride, which

remained, those for whom the scarf is not

just a rag, yeah, how did I get it there

a scarf, here's a scarf, there for all of them

It was a terrible betrayal, very vile.

So look again, reality is

little life. That is, in this life we

we play and within the framework of this life only

because outside of this there are girls

can be wonderful. I am Meyu

I know, for example, well, super superman.

We worked there for several years.

projects. Very polite, very

tactful, very consistent. No

some kind of bad thing, well, some kind of

they can't remember the moment, right? That

there is only the best. I used to have Katya

I didn't know at all what she was like, but when I

I saw her as if I were very big

I also had sympathy for her. This one

story with apartments. Well, that is to say

if I were like her, here I am

I was drawing, there I was walking back and forth there

I said, well, it wouldn't be that simple.

Why did they fall so dagger-like in our faces?

back?

They just hit me so hard from behind,

realizing that we can no longer do anything

change and we look in the eyes of the viewer

that's exactly it, that's exactly it. Because

the audience saw us. Again

Collectively we made this decision. We

accepted it collectively. Yes, it is

It's not an easy decision, but for someone every time

I need to leave. We owe it to everyone

risk someone every time. So. So.

It's clear that we'd rather take the risk.

a person we know little about and

who has questions now, yes, than,

for example, by one of us who is already close,

who has already built some with whom

trusting relationships and so on.

That's why the girls at that moment

They just signed themselves up for this show.

death sentence. Nobody thought about it,

to win. I wanted to stay only

until one last moment, yes, when

none of the three will be there. This is it

was my goal.

This is a lion. When you ask: "And

Did I think I'd win? No. I'm there too.

said that the only lottery in

that I won in life is me

I met my beloved wife,

beloved. This is the only lottery in

which I won. I came for that,

to raise their numbers. I did it

ratings.

Yes. I came to revive

This is a bit of a show. It seems to me that I

it worked. Well, maybe I'll overestimate

your contribution, but believe me, there is no money involved

Nobody thought.

What they did was within the framework

that's the reality, within the framework in which we

we are participating, within the framework of this small

life. It was something that couldn't be

forgive. Now imagine that

family, and we were already a family, right? That is

This is a group of comrades, this is love practice.

How did you become a family in just a couple of days?

And the trials, the pressure, the stress, that's it

didn't show. But I wanted to talk about something else.

say. This is this family, this is this one

project, yes, a group of comrades who

remained true to themselves, and they remained in

the majority. This is very important. This

small state. Well, the family unit,

This

The family is the unit of the state. Do you remember?

There used to be a book called The State -

this is us. Now imagine that

there is a conspiracy that is very vile and

short. There is a fifth column in your

in a small state, and you're the boss

special services.

Tell me how you will act?

You are being eavesdropped on, the producers are listening.

They know that you are conspiring. And you?

you know what you are opposing here

this counter-conspiracy, they're watching you, right?

How will you act? You will be

reveal your intentions or you will

confuse the enemy? You will observe

some principles or you or you

you will simply go towards your goal. IN

within the framework of this game

I would fight first of all with

the opposing team, but in their own

this moment still at this moment at this

At this point we don't have to remove the cancer.

tumor. We can't win

external enemy when we have

internal enemy. It's not just that

The problem with this reality now. You can

This can be extrapolated to any country.

This is what happens in society too. That is,

we appeared within our team

an internal adversary who is much

such a column named Katya Gordon,

which is much more dangerous, which

much more dangerous. I still can't

understand why Katya chose this

tactics. And that is to say, she probably doesn't

I was planning on staying on this show. AND,

I guess she just wanted it like this

this is how to attract an audience

attention.

I'll tell you a little story

secret. Katya Gadon looked at

what is happening through the eyes of TV viewers.

Well, that is populism, what they

I use,

this is for which, of course, girls,

who defended the people's participant

Irina, was much more respected,

than the men who united to

send it.

So they didn't want to play, that means,

they didn't want to play, so they didn't

thought about the team. That's all. That's why

everything that happened next is necessary

understand or try

understand only within the framework of this logic,

which I have just drawn. Then a lot

It will become clear from my actions. Now

look further. Irina is back,

that is, nothing happened to her,

but it could have happened. I won that time.

Yes. I have a big question, for example,

Why why is it like this? Why do people who

came out after Irina, they were very

did you say goodbye quickly? That is to say, in what,

e-evanie

viewer, I kind of understand it, but this

again the indignation of the viewer, who

observes this very superficially

show. Maybe after I

revealed some details, and to the viewer

it will become, uh, more clear. Moreover,

I'll tell you, Katya suggested it to me

cooperation.

Katya Gordon.

Katya offered me cooperation. Yes.

So what does she have to do with it?

uh suggested that I not hide it from

viewer, right? So she passed it on to me

news, I still have this

a message where she suggests: "Come on,

like, join our coalition, I guarantee you

there is my voice, Ira's voice, the voice, that is,

We, but you must betray yours

comrades, you must betray, then,

"Kuzma".

This is a direct flow of such a message,

Yes? Yes, I have it. Right there

There is something in the text that you don't have to hide

This is from people. That's why I do it now

I'm just saying this so you understand, right? That

There is Katya.

not so clear-cut, right? This is not this is not

such an unambiguous figure.

Here. And that's why everything is worth it here too.

to understand what is happening precisely in that

logic, where no principles other than those

to which we remained faithful from the very beginning

in this group of comrades, which

It worked out, they don't work.

But, uh, when did you even watch these episodes?

and heard the synchronicities of Katya Gordon, who

I walked over you there, what feelings

were there any at all? there was no desire to take it

phone and answer her the same thing

message or even call,

find out.

I didn't hear anything,

nothing that she didn't have

rights. Well, that is her opinion. That is

I'm very sorry that she saw me like that, but

in the message she sent me,

when she tried to recruit me into her

coalition, she called me very

a deep and interesting guy. Well

True, I wrote it with a lowercase letter.

Seryoga, well, I'm not really offended.

This is important. No, just as a note.

you. Yes.

Fine. Then did you see the reaction?

spectators and those very commentators and

subscribers, who, of course, were satisfied

they just wrote a storm of indignation and hate

millions of messages that Seryoga -

This is the cringe show "Survive in Istanbul".

I don't understand these English words. Let's

Let's switch to Russian. Hey hey hate.

What is this?

disgrace? Hate. Well, I just don't like you.

Well, I've seen other opinions too.

So

Here, look, let's do it this way. First of all, I

I agree with the viewer within the framework of that

the story that we were shown. Here I am

I agree with the viewer that it looked

ambiguous. This is my behavior. Well

Now, after what I told you,

maybe some some

the number of viewers is still

will rethink their position in relation to

That is, I uncovered a conspiracy, I figured it out

with the conspirators, me and my comrades. Here

you don't know what's going on

actually in reality? Too much in the frame

no, it doesn't hit. Here conspiracies are revealed,

and executions are carried out for treason.

That's why

that which

Katerina's synchronous ones were exactly like that

chosen, well, first of all, it's a merit

editor, secondly, this is the world in

in which she lives. In her world, everyone is men.

balabo, successful

women next to her. Here they are

questionable behavior, some

spindle tails. That is how she sees it.

She sees it constantly

some kind of conflict in which she must

participate and be sure to win. To me

it seems like she should have, maybe

to be, to be born a man.

Katya Gordon even recorded a disc about you,

such a small clean place, where too

I went over all your qualities. You

did you hear her?

You are so unreliable, Seryoga,

that I only write what you light up.

[music]

You're not a boomer, but a black Zaporozhets.

But you certainly won't fool the public.

Yes, I listened to her.

Did you like it?

I liked it very much.

That's what I'm getting at.

She is kind. She is kind. That's all

It's okay, it's not offensive and she

has the right to do so. And the fact that people

showed that they cared,

maybe the form in which they do it

they did, well, it wasn't always there

acceptable. This only means that

This show was watched by a large number of people

people. It's just this reaction.

negative, it is always very bright,

sharp, first. Well, I'm fine with that too.

I relate to this.

And the second point that was written, addressed

all this to you, that a person simply does not

knows how to lose, but doesn't know how to accept

loss.

The ball touches the ground, [music] man

lost, the ball touched on his side

land. That is, you either put it in yourself

basket,

This was not in the rules.

There were no such rules. [music]

I came up with some of my own in my head

rules. Igor,

I completed everything clearly, exactly according to the conditions.

Seryoga,

no, no, I don't admit it, I don't admit it

your winnings. And you are a coward because you

listened to what was said.

I'm a coward.

Take it, yes, you are a coward. Take it at this price

victory. And even you, being an adult

an artist who has been on millions of broadcasts and

knowledgeable in the art of editing and all the other things

these intricacies in these shows, there must be

I had to understand that for now it was probably yours

reaction, the fact that you didn't shake his hand.

Look, we are already in reverse now

We understand everything with our minds at that moment. I

It was easier to accept it, I think,

Well, he lost and he lost, but at least

least, look in the eyes of those who look

worthy. I was in the process and I

I thought least of all about what I would see there

the viewer, as he thinks, and most of all

I was thinking about what we were losing in the show. Well

that is, for me it’s still simple

It's not clear why it was like this

a choice has been made. Because they could,

See how to do it. They could have left

my overreaction, yes,

that is, for hype, for judgment

public, yes, for hate, like you

you say. Well, okay, that's how you are.

Thug, come on, then, play again. And here

I wish he would punish me too. Here,

Can you imagine, it's actually double there?

like cringe. That is, he volunteered and there too

lost, but they saved money on the fight.

I'll tell you why. Because it's very

the producers needed it at that moment,

so that the populists could get ahead.

The extinct populists, as we were told,

the populists have died out, that's all, they're gone,

that means the drive to fight and so on. That

there is no motivation. It was very necessary and needed

get ahead by at least one point

forward. And they grabbed this

opportunity. And when I realized this, it was clear

by the look on my face, yes, that I was

I no longer understood what would happen,

at these competitions on this day there were

It is really necessary for the populists to go to

villa, and the stars in the forest. And you remember,

what a dramatic day this was,

gladiator fights. Despite all this,

This is a trick on the part of

producers, yes, all these amendments

to the wind, we still came to

to a draw result. You understand, in

What's the matter? That is to say, as far as we were

charged, how strong. Do you remember?

there was a moment when they brought us in

before the fight, here in this, in these

catacombs, and you remember the scream

[laughter] burst out of my throat, a roar like that

this one here, lions forward, remember? This is it

This was not included in the editing. Well, there you are.

just imagine the courage in which

in what mood, huh? But we

They didn't understand what kind of competition there would be. I

Why am I telling you this? This is all in one day.

So when you step into the arena,

You don't understand what awaits you. Here I am

I'm really waiting, I'm waiting for some kind of test,

Yes, I'm waiting for some kind of danger, I'm waiting for it

It's true, but I didn't expect such a set-up. A

here it is, not from Igor again, not from Igor.

I understand Igor, why he did this.

Well, this is really a person who is in

I encountered filming for the first time and

he just doesn't have that inner

installations even, yes, argue with

producers. There is some kind of contract there.

he's already on the edge.

Do I understand correctly that you have questions?

there is to the producers of this project and

Are your dissatisfaction also addressed to them? A

Did you try to go out with them after that?

to intervene in some conversations

installation?

Of course, I criticized them during that time,

as a witness to controversial competitions. AND

you want this, well, you mean to say,

What is this normal? People for the first time

took up arms, right? Even if

You box, yes, you are not put in the ring right away

They'll install it, yes, you'll be there for at least six months

You will work on it while studying the technique. Seryozha, if

there weren't so many complaints or dissatisfactions,

thoughts of just leaving this project without

all kinds of tests and voting on

small and so on, but just say:

"Guys, producer, I'm not happy with the filming.

I understand that I am being set up here. I

I want to leave."

You see, it's me again, me, me, me. And the team,

Orishi, I tried to make it so that we

somehow we got through it, so that's all

we went through this together because I understood that

there is some kind of throw from the side

organizer, yes, that is, there was some

Turkish contractor, who from the very beginning

began to behave incorrectly, and therefore

We were moving forward with filming and locations

some of them were constantly being replaced there

one to the other. I just saw, yeah, how

a person who has taken part in more than one

semka, I saw that there was a joint behind

in a shoal, what is there, what is not there

everything is so good. That's why I'm somewhere

the side of the organizers too

accepted. That is, I tried to help and

there and there. So what does it mean to leave? There

Everyone goes through this.

You certainly understand perfectly well,

that after listening to what you are telling and

all your complaints, dissatisfaction,

Reality show producers can do more than you

never invite at all. Understand,

that the person will tell everything now

he will complain and discuss all their mistakes.

Wait, let's put it this way. It doesn't look like it,

as if I'm complaining. I'm not complaining, I

I'm just telling you. That is, you

The context is very, very important.

So we can just stop

let's discuss this and admit it right away,

that I am a person who does not keep his own

the word, coward, means actor, scoundrel and

the main villain. So he appointed me,

so to speak, the editor is like this

character. Let's draw the line right away,

that I am like this. Then explain to me,

please, how could I take so long?

keep? What was holding back what was holding back

are there a majority of team members? from that,

just to dump me, send me away

each time for a small test. Especially

I myself shouted: "Can I? Can I?" You

You understand that this is a demonstration.

your certain authority and weight?

How could I achieve this? I don't

he actually threatened, you know? That is

the viewer must, as it were, between

try to catch some frames. That is

the truth is she is different. The truth was

it was precisely in the fact that there was a group

comrades who believed in each other,

trusted, felt support, warmth,

understanding. And what we saw was everything

together, including myself, I do not exclude,

I saw a completely different movie, I

I saw another implementation. I'm not right now

I'm complaining, I'm just getting the message across, I'm trying,

Here I am with you, talking to you, and

You yourself have been there and more than once,

took part in this. That is very

context is important when you look at everything as is

they edited it, showed it, yes, without understanding

context there, yes, everything is black

white, this one is bad, this one is good, this one

a villain, and this is a defender of the weak.

But why did I end up here? Come on too.

Let's clarify this important point right away. Not me

I volunteered to come here, you called me. So

the same way the producers invited me to this

show. You invited me to this interview.

Of course, as one of the most discussed

participants of this project. It's up to you to decide,

Why. That's why I'm telling it like it was.

In fact. I have nothing to hide. Here.

Let the viewer decide for himself. I am not white

fluffy. I am who I am.

Your stay in reality. You have a bunch of

questions have accumulated for those who

I came up with it, and there were no grievances for that

You were edited incorrectly. But the main one

the conclusion you drew from participating in

reality,

Which?

You need to go to such projects. And you need to

any status, at any age you need

take part in such projects

just because you can meet

there are interesting people there. What I met

wonderful people, this circle

friends that formed there - this is

the most wonderful people. I just want to

tell them. This is Maga Kuzma Saprkin,

Masha Gorban.

These are wonderful people, these are comrades.

mine, these are my friends. Here.

And what qualities of theirs captivated you?

in each? Well, let's start, for example,

with Masha. Despite the fact that in the editing room

her version, her image raises doubts

even I have it. Here she is completely different

Human. For me it is very bright,

very wise,

a very kind, sociable girl,

comrade, comrade-in-arms. Here. And if

If it weren't for her, it would have been very difficult for us there.

How did she support you? How

did you help?

A woman can simply believe. Just

She said: "You're the coolest."

Gola, she said: "You are the coolest."

She and Kuzya said this, and Magi said this

she said it, and she told it to me. Yes, she is.

She just supported us.

This is interesting. Yes, you are all men, and she

young woman. And for the girls there is Katya Gordon

or Mia Boyki, she never spoke

such that you are a good girl Katya or you are Mia

gorgeous.

I think she just didn't have it

opportunities to say this.

But you were all together. No,

Just Katya and Mia, so unexpectedly

they stabbed us in the back, yes, with this one

with his prank.

So unexpected, yes, that we just

that we were friends, just now we were all soul

into the soul. Just now, just now we

We had breakfast together. They are even in these

scarves, I gave them scarves because

I understood that we were riding in convertibles and

the sun will bake their heads. I took care of it

that they should have scarves. They are in

in these scarves, in these kerchiefs

they were driving on this to the meeting place with

By Pasha's Will. And there they already had it.

The plan is treacherous, uh, so-so.

story of deeds

in relation to, yes, the team. Here. AND

after that

the world was divided into before and after. That is, in

this little life the world was divided into

before and after.

To be honest, it seemed to me that Masha

Gorbani is just using a clever tactic.

was, to be closer to the men,

strong

and be in the majority.

No, we were all the majority at that time.

moment. Most of us were all

majority. We were a monolith, both Katya and

Mia was included there. That is, I am with

treated both one and the other with great warmth

another, and to the third. That is, I didn't do it,

let's say there's some special choice there

towards Mary. It just happened that way,

that Maria stayed with us. That is, here in

in this conflict, when we were facing

Pavel, she was also taken aback,

like all of us. Here. And she just accepted,

in my opinion, in my deepest opinion

conviction, that is, she became on

the right side, despite the fact that, uh,

the editor assigned it specifically to

the role of the main villain there or for the role

generally evil, yes, here is our coalition. Here

everything, everything is exactly the opposite. Here

also without cutting out what the screen is

a crooked mirror where dwarfs seem

giants, cowards seem like heroes. Here. AND

vice versa. That is, everything is accurate, yes,

on the contrary, my friends, exactly yes

vice versa. If you learn to see between

personnel, turn on critical thinking,

then you will understand that this is exactly how it is

There is. about Masha, my comrade in arms,

which, in those conditions of constraint,

which we experienced, yes, we, being

under pressure, stress, constant

these filmings, persecution,

eavesdropping and so on, intrigue, she

gave us this

warmth, the support that it needs

man. A man is a little

child. And here is Kuzma Saprykin. Kuzma

Saprykin, the man who

In general, you let your entire team down.

Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. This

information weapon. What are you doing

Now? You set me up, this is your assessment.

judgment. No one else to name.

We saw it, we saw it differently. This

we saw it differently. He just got it

jackpot, and we were happy for him.

But he didn't tell you that he

he had a choice not to take this jackpot and

so don't put the team in

difficult situation.

He said, No, he said, he said about

this. He said this and we accepted it.

his choice. We accepted this choice as

faithful because each of us

I would have done exactly that. That is to say, I was lucky.

Well, okay, we haven't been to

that moment is so friendly, with him it is

happened. If he remains

If he is loyal to the team, then he strengthens the team.

That is, at least for one of us we

We don't have to worry.

Let me just tell it to those who are watching.

and for those who can't do it that much

were worried about it carefully. We weren't jealous

to this, yes, that he has immunity.

We are talking about the case when Kuzma

Saprykin, entering the villa, saw uh

a tempting offer was given to him,

He is given immunity, but in return the team

it should get a complication on

testing. Kuzma took this immunity, and

later, when I was talking about it

team, said that, guys, I just

granted immunity. Oh, yeah, by the way,

more bad news, we will now have

complication. But Kuzma didn't say that

he had a choice to give up altogether

immunity. Here is the team's place,

friendly team, yes, pride, like you

You say I would be for this act

once again, uh, I began to suspect him of

some kind of generally undermining actions.

But this did not happen. No, on the contrary,

everyone was happy for him. Everyone was happy

for him. Well done, you're lucky, you won.

Jackpot, everything is cool. And how does he behave next?

led, and participating in great trials,

worrying about everyone, uh, I'm always in it

I saw my comrades, I still see them. Yes,

this is a person who is younger than me, then

There is a person of another generation, but I am here

I became friends with him and I consider him

a wonderful person and actor very

good. That's why Kuzma is the soul. This

the soul of our team. Maga is generally

a unique person. Well, you know yourself,

you participated with him more than once

reality. This is a treasure trove of humor

Caucasian.

This is a very charismatic person. He

nice. He is nice. Just here it is

communicates very tactfully. Very thin

such a person, understanding, wise

Human. A person, uh, with whom you can

consult.

A man who sees for several

steps forward. Yes, he is cunning, that's it

I see, yes, well, he is an experienced participant,

Here. But he is very loyal.

In general, you will go into reality TV.

The thing is, I'm not just a participant in

anyway, right? That is to say, I am a human being,

who can remove and install it himself.

I am very worried about that,

what the final product will be.

So if I go into reality, that is

I don't rule out this possibility.

And which one would you like?

The issue needs to be looked into.

I just remember your words about the show

for survival - this is just what you need

to me. You said it. I need heavy ones

conditions in which I would be, yes, I

I can say that I didn't know,

what we will face. I was ready for much more

more severe tests. And when I

I saw what surrounds us, I realized,

that we are in some kind of pioneer camp. That

There is this show. And so maybe it is

and explains the editing, yes, because we

we see some kind of, well, essentially, house 2

we see, yes, that is, we see squabbles,

intrigue, but we don't see any tests. This

It's a pity because we are basically

the teams enjoyed the score

tests. And this is what we saw, this is

all these spectacular decorations, like, yes,

that is, this scope, these are castles in

life-size, the Colosseum, yes, and here it is

this intensity of passion, this is partly not

was transmitted. This is big

disappointment. So I'll think three times,

Should I go to any other one?

reality, and I will think about it first of all

about what the final product will be. That

there must be something really special about it

such a moving one. And here is the tactics of behavior

you will change yours if you do it again

Will you get into the survival show?

Behavior tactics? It seems to me that I

It's hard to exchange with enemies, I'll be without

pity, I will be defenseless against the treacherous one

eradicate. I will remain faithful to my comrades.

Got it, Seryozha? I think you're a godsend.

in general for all reality show producers in

first of all, because you are very

you take the game seriously. Now, after listening

you, I myself became scared. God,

People have pride there, betrayals, conspiracies,

everything is not as you see it. [laughter]

Well indeed, yes,

This is very interesting to listen to. I would

I would invite the producers again

Seryoga, but I would only plunge him into

real survival conditions, no food, no

water, on some island. And here it is

then we would see not only a lion,

but I don't even know if something would have been waiting for us

incredible, I think.

Look, I didn't mean to just talk about this.

talk, but let me tell you.

The image of Leo is an exact copy

images of IP Lev Pustyn, which I

released recently. Lion Lion of the Desert

they call it. Well, yes, a mini-album, yes.

And a special thank you for the anthem.

survive in Istanbul, which you recorded, and

There's already a piece out where you even talk about me

sang there. And the words are: "I don't believe

I don't believe Leysan, I would probably

I believed Alena Damn, but then I would

"I leaked it." Why is that about me? [laughter]

Well, because you're a strong player. A

the strong ones must be drained.

Strong player. Well, closer to the end from them

need to get rid of. Yes.

The player is closer to the final,

Yes. Although if we were playing with you

on the same team, maybe we would have come

some other strategy.

You see, how I always think about that

after all, a group of comrades can come to an agreement

among themselves.

So

and in any case, if one of them

wins, the prize will be shared by everyone. How can I

this?

Well, you just described something

ideal layout.

How can this be prevented? Flax,

and just imagine,

in the entire history of reality television, none of his

He didn't share the winners with anyone.

Well, the probability is not zero.

Well, imagine, you and I are in a coalition.

we go together as one team,

We lend a shoulder, I'll use cunning, you

by force. We split the prize and yours 50/50

We donate part of it to charity.

Can Seryoga and I go to

reality show couples, please, where

win a little more so that we have something

divide.

Yes. [laughter]

He doesn't want to.

No. Why, Alena? Believe me, I'm here

plan

lottery of some money, that is, I am in

I have never won anything in life, so for

For me, this is something so unrealistic. Well then

There are people who are lucky, but I am not

He's just not that kind of person. That is to say, well, that is

I have a different kind of luck. I have

There is luck with people, for example, yes,

some situations. Money is not what it is,

that falls on me from the sky, so I don’t

I'm chasing them. But we can win. We

we can win. That is, if

if the team is initially assembled like this,

for example, in reality and immediately yourself

promise that we will hold some line,

some strategy, and this moment,

Where can I find producers?

put down, break their game.

I understood only one thing, that in no way

in this case, you can't cheat

change.

God forbid some kind of conspiracy. That's it, axe

head.

Well, please tell me, just do it

Let's be honest. And how do you feel about it?

betrayal?

Listen, when I go on a reality show,

I'm not going to the real one.

This is a small life. No, it's small.

life. You are risking your reputation,

your health. In fact

I am always looking for ways to solve the problem. U

I don't have such a thing that these people are not sa

avoid answering. I asked you

specifically: "How do you feel about

betrayal?"

Well, I wasn't betrayed in reality.

It's me who doesn't believe you.

never.

Well, you just don't treat it like that.

traitor.

Well, they never set me up. With me

My coalition, my pride, was on the move. By the way, that's all

I have time, well, in life, life is

it's already different. But we are still talking about

reality.

For me, I say again, for me it is

little life. That is, with s clearly

with defined time frames, with

your own

laws of the world order,

the universe, the microuniverse, in which we

Where in this universe is there life?

death,

Yes? That is, there is failure, there is success. AND

that's within the framework, I say again, within the framework

this reality, this little life,

I feel and see when I play exactly

So.

Are there any parallels with life? Here

I'll also ask you if there were any like that

betrayals for which you will later

punished cruelly?

I only know that it seems to me that I am

I know everything about betrayal.

Well, you can know everything about betrayal

different sides. That is, well, it is possible to be

yourself a participant in the conspiracy, right? That is

You don't believe in conspiracies until you get to that point.

pores until you become part of

conspiracy. Here. But I think that I

I know everything about betrayal with another

sides. That is, I understand what it is

to be devoted, but I don't want to talk about that

tell. So this is my story,

but precisely because I went through

a lot, that's what I've formed

attitude. This is something I can't help but

tell it so that the audience understands that

stands behind actions in general, behind some

judgments and these stories and

serious relationship.

I can tell you this. I'm in enough

game long enough to understand

that an interview is not a confession. Those who

participated in events against me,

they know about it.

They have already been punished.

They are in other reality shows. That's all already

at least they're alive.

Yes, I think they are alive and well.

[music]

Seryozha, well, we didn’t just meet,

to discuss reality TV. Is this your first time?

me on the show. Although, by the way, it is amazing

happening. Usually on the second, on the third

People come to me in circles. And very many

artists, and you, by the way, can be called

legend. I hope you agree with this.

I treat this with great irony.

Why?

Here. So, what does that mean, it's a legend? That is us

then, it turns out, we devalue the concept

legends. So what is the legend? Here

let's talk. Here you speak of legends.

That is, either you repeat something

narrative.

Legends are people whose name is known

the whole country in connection with some of their, not

I know there are events and high-profile roles there.

If we take you, then hits. But black

The whole country still knows Boomer. And

It is unlikely that he will ever forget. Well, I know.

such a thing that usually people who have

there is such a bright track and those who then do not

was able to repeat his success, they usually

hate these songs and they shake when they listen to them

mentioning these masterpieces. Here

What is your situation?

You know, it's like it's not a part anymore

me. That is to say, I understand what I mean.

attitude towards the creation of this track. I'm up to

I still receive it

certain payments. You could say it is

My pension is for life, but that was so long ago

it was, it's already so far away in some

distant reality from me, that

this one has this entity, yes, this one

essence. So, the black boomer is

essence. This is more than a song, like

if this is the essence. This is this is this

There is a legendary song. Not me, but the song

a legend, yes. And I agree with this. AND

She lives separately, as if from me.

some kind of life of my own. She's coming back,

whenever you like, there every 15 years, yes,

in some new processing and so on.

That's why

She has her own life. That is to say, there is

songs that get big

big hits, but there is a song that

becomes more than a big hit, huh?

That is, a hit, a super hit. This is it

such a song. So, of course, in

to some extent I do, despite the fact that

I wrote this song as a joke, yes, that is.

I suffered a little, yes, from this,

because many people, having created something

impression of me as an author, as

about the musician, about the artist, thanks

only this song, and this is what is most

It was kind of bright, yes, and thanks to them

they didn't want to dig further into this,

they didn't want to know what else he was drinking, but

there are some other third ones I didn't start with

this song. This song was written in

a joke and a bet.

Ah, but you have plenty of tracks besides

boomers that the general public doesn't know about

knows,

who have a different fate. Here I have,

for example, there is a song called "Charisma" - it's from

album

songs under the pseudonym "Polygraph"

Sharikov". This is a project within the framework of

which I sing an urban romance with

orchestra. That is, I don’t just read rap,

Yes, I still sing.

Here. And this song is 10 years old, that's it.

Imagine. And it became a super hit,

which is actually on streaming

The sites were beaten and died even this year.

Charisma, charisma, [music] charisma. You

so charisma, charisma, charisma beckons,

charisma. My great charisma. [music]

For this, well, essentially, she lay

just 10 years. That is, before this

It was played on Russian Radio, there was even

clip, but for some reason it worked. And never

It is impossible to understand why this is so. and 10 years later

years, do you understand? That's why everyone has

songs of their own, just like a person, their own

fate. And why is that? Or else, this

no one, not a single one can explain

producer. It just happens and

All. We have to live with this and

live. That's why I have a lot

songs, there are several projects. That is

I'm now after a long break, more than 10

I haven't written rap songs for years.

Now, over the last six months, I

released three PIs, that is, three mini-albums

eight tracks each. Lion of the desert,

dragon race, poker face.

Here. And now for this year too, it’s big

the number of releases I have. That is me

such a person, such an author, to whom

you need to live, to be nourished with life

matter, as it were, yes, and then I begin

issue. That is, this is the old school.

I wrote an album, left for 5-7 years, but

I'll be back.

Do I understand correctly that we are talking now?

Are we talking about Seryoga's comeback? And you're still

full

Again, this is an English word again. Well,

return of the legend.

I don't know how to comment on this, yeah,

because I can't help but write,

Sometimes I can't write, sometimes I can't help but

write. That is, at that moment when I

I don't write anything, it means that I

went somewhere? No, it just means,

that I have a period of accumulation, right? That

I am accumulating energy, accumulating

I accumulate vital matter and strength, and

then when I have something to share, I

I'm going out. Well, that doesn't mean that I

went somewhere. That is for you,

maybe that's how it looks to the audience,

especially in our active, busy

events of the information age. But for

Nothing changes for me. So when

You say comeback, return, I

never came and never went.

Let's talk about the accumulation period. Uh, what in

were you involved in this moment?

Lived, lived.

Well, what happened? If you don't have it

there was active touring activity,

I understand so?

Look, there was a war, there was a pandemic.

It happened in different sequences. I

I raised children, I studied, I received

education, played sports, tried

various businesses, traveled.

This is interesting about businesses. I'm somewhere

I read that you are even a fitness trainer

worked.

Yes, there was a moment when I was very active

I studied human capabilities, and I am more

worked on special diets

nutrition.

I had an affiliate program with

Yachinovsky University. Here. And from there

I've already come to sports, like, yeah, that's why

what we checked

uh, how can food be

ra was used uh well as

conditional legal doping, yes, then

there is how food affects

functionality, on results,

Well, in preparation for the Olympics.

That is, these are your own discoveries. A

Can you share this power supply system?

Let's go to a separate program.

we'll do it. In short, what shouldn’t you eat?

To people.

Alena, you can do everything here. TO

you spend honeycombs, you spend so much energy,

they drink so much energy from you that you

You can eat absolutely everything.

Well, it's still very interesting here. Let's

at least a little bit in outline. Here's a healthy one

nutrition or

I think that Alyonushka, look, I

I believe that any real thing is true

knowledge, it must be secret. This is not

lot.

And all this is secret.

We are right here No, it's not a secret. Well, it's simple.

If you want, I'll tell you. Well

if you're really interested

in this. Here. But

I'm very interested, but I want

the audience listened

The Internet is full of specialists

weight loss, muscle mass gain,

you can find it in everything you want

specialists. That's why I won't be here.

somehow look for the secret. I can just

I can just tell you, I can just tell you

just one. I'm a little bit older than that.

You. Three times

for 4 years.

About three times.

Here. And I can only tell you one thing,

that this is really work. That is

if if if we study this issue,

the question of nutrition, it works very well with

aiming at

Well, were you selling these courses or something?

I don't know, or this system?

No.

And what was it developed for?

Multipurpose application. Someone wanted

someone wanted to prolong their life

show the best results on

competitions,

someone wanted to bring very quickly

take shape. That is, food is what

what makes us faster, stronger and

healthier,

much more effective than drugs.

What should you eat to become smarter?

Nothing. This is a gift. Well, that is, you are intelligent.

you can only acquire it through genetics

and thanks to life experience. To me

Seems,

and for everything else I understand correctly,

that it is possible to somehow address it directly

you, and you will share knowledge about

nutrition?

Well, I'm not doing that right now.

on a commercial basis. That is to say, there is

knowledge that it is for me,

if you want for you. Well, if you

do you really want this for my

loved ones.

Well, I will contact you, but I wanted maybe

and help people somehow. Maybe you're selling?

This

to people? I want to tell you something. I

Thanks to my life experience I can

know that you can only help people

in case they really are

they themselves want it if they are looking for this help.

Here. But the help you

you offer without asking, that is, from yourself,

this is the worst thing you can do,

having certain information,

knowledge.

You are simply devaluing your knowledge.

Let me give you one main piece of advice

nutrition from Seryoga. Well, if people want

there, I don’t know, to live long, to be

healthy, that's briefly what you need

do?

It's good when you eat, even if you don't

try. Dot.

That is, do not eat at all.

Well, you have to decipher this.

message.

I just deciphered it. Don't eat,

Briefly speaking. [laughter]

Well, you can't make it very short. You

Do you understand what the matter is? So you want

great knowledge that is tormented,

suffered through years of trials,

for hundreds of human lives and in

extreme conditions, including. You

do you want me to do it like this in two

in words he devalued this knowledge, you

just gave it out now.

Well, you know, I talk to some of them.

people, they say there: "I will tell you

I can tell you a lot, but one thing is short:

drink water there, for example, warm water

in the morning." No, I, Areshka, I'm telling you this

I'll tell you, I'll have to do exactly this one thing

I can say that you will have to limit yourself

in something. This

This is obvious.

This is a collection. Well, you see how it is. And with this

nobody wants to make peace.

That is, there is audience interest here.

turns off. Ah, well, everything is clear.

Let me tell you more about what I learned about you,

while you were accumulating energy.

E was a lumberjack.

What is this?

Well, I chop wood.

Well, how are you?

Well, this is my hobby. And you just left

into the forest and

No, I just found it at my place of residence.

use for yourself. That is, I showed up and

I saw that there is, so to speak, a base there

Olympic reserve, where there is a very

many

unsplit material. I have this one

axes. It's just like a trainer. Here I am

I just suggested. Do you need a person? They

They say: "We're just looking." I speak:

"I don't need to pay money, I'll do it myself. Well

"Just give me some space." And

cut down a lot of forest.

Well, that's enough. And where then?

It's okay, they'll flood the bathhouse.

Yeah.

are used.

And why is something like this at this moment?

did you feel it? So you just went to cut down the forest.

It's just an alternative workout.

or what is this

Here's just one for you as an answer

to the question I asked earlier,

Yes? That is, he should not be fitness

to be boring, that is, in nature, on

in the fresh air. Well, that's a plus

a complex exercise that

develops,

Well, the person has a lot of skills.

Hit one point. Well, definitely hit, sharply

beat.

But the most extreme thing in your life,

I think it's a passion for mountaineering

in light of the latest news and a bunch

these scary stories, when

People died while conquering the peaks. I always

every time I listen to these

stories or a person who

I'm into it, it seems to me that this is the most

the most fearless man in the world.

I can't boast of anything big

achievements in this area. Exactly

because I have my own view on

mountains, for mountaineering. That is, in mine

in my understanding it is quite safe

mountaineering, despite the fact that it is

I don't aim for solo mountaineering

to conquer the peaks, yes, that is, I think,

that it is impossible.

Well, I mean, you can, the mountain can

let me come in and let me go if you

you'll be lucky. But these are games of vanity,

which always ends

death.

Here. That is, this is a test of the number of them.

So if you climb

higher than the alpine zone, that's it

This is essentially like a war, right? That

There is

and above what height? You must

be below the zone where snow lies. Well

and again it depends on the mountains. That is to say, there is

There are less dangerous mountains, there are more dangerous mountains.

dangerous. Here. But overall my approach to

that I use the mountains as a training device,

that is, I do not collect peaks. Well

because it is both expensive and difficult. That

You need to devote time to this.

Here. And if you use height as

exercise machine and you do it periodically, right?

That is, this is the very one

mountaineering, which brings not only

pleasure, but also health benefits.

Have you read the stories about Vika Bonya, who

She conquered, then, my God, that she

I just haven't conquered Everest. And one more thing

the name of the mountains, which I don’t even know anymore

I'll remember. Every time it's a whole show for her

rise. She goes on air from there,

she says how bad she feels, but nevertheless

she's going somewhere, conquering something,

set a flag there.

Well

does this have anything to do with reality or is it

Just

No, I think it does.

attitude to reality. This is very brave

young woman. And despite the fact that she

probably uh used oxygen and

a lot of other uh

facilitating options, that is, for sure it is

I went up there with a group, yes, and

there must have been some kind of

delivery to the base camp, there's a helicopter there

and the accompanying chef there

basic delivery. Well, there are those,

which walk on their feet,

and there are those that just say "Yes," before

a certain point, almost until

the peaks, well, not everywhere, of course, catch up

It's impossible there at base camp.

From the base camp there is still a long way to go.

But in general there are options that make things easier,

as if, despite all this, she

risked life because the mountains are

the elements, and they could have been covered. Well, if only

she trusted the wrong people, they could

would die, because even the most

experienced climbers, the same

Bukreev, taking at one time or another

wrong decision, no matter what the reason

for this reason, they became victims

elements. That is, mountains are an element. Here

you can't win against the elements, you can't

you can win, you might just

lead, you can come back if

the elements will let you go. That's why it is

games with vanity, as I already said.

But she is a brave girl.

What mountains have you been to and what have you seen?

Well, from

I've been to the most famous ones

Kelemanjara. No

Holy [ __ ].

Well, it's not considered very difficult.

Well, you conquered her, you got to the point

I can't, I say we don't conquer

mountains. That is, I was there, I was at the top,

Yes, and he went down. This is very beautiful. U

I even have a track called Snegak or Manzhar.

Here. That is, you see, for me

Life is material for songs. After

Let's get back to creativity, by the way,

which we started. Uh, I'm surprised

I saw you on the forbidden network,

uh, dis on Larisa Dolina.

Why dis right away? Here it is again

American school

Fine. What is correct?

Musical Sharsh.

Scabies.

Well, no, well, "chistushka" is a short form,

Yes? There is a song there after all. There are two there

verse, in my opinion.

Well, with which one?

Well, you're trying to hype one with the other.

parties

He is an honest man, he just wanted to

hype up Larisa Dolina

don't you feel sorry for her?

There are good stacks, that is, I am against it.

in order to humiliate people, insult them

people

Thank you [music] Larisa

Now I'm registered on the street [music] mine

homeless status

on the ground floor

and there, in fact, the reason itself is just a news hook

the song was used from the point of view of

abandoned, thrown out into the street

beloved, as it were, right? That is

Thank you, Larisa, for which I am on the street

registered. That is, if we verses

we listen, it’s kind of lyrical

hero, he was in love with Larisa. Well then

This is readable.

Well, you've already delved into stupidity, but just

So who is it?

That is, essentially, a song about love. That is

song No, the infopod itself is used as

would, right? That is, Larisa and the noise around

Larisa's.

The track isn't called Larisa Dolin. There

a play on words is used, yes, which

hints at what is meant

This is exactly the story. Well

Are you familiar with Dolina at all?

Dolina was on the jury for the program

three chords, three chords, yeah, in

the Three Chords program, where I participated

together with Mia Boyko, by the way, she was in

one of the episodes as part of the jury,

so you could say I'm familiar. But

when this whole story happened to her,

Did you condemn her like everyone else or did you just decide

hype?

I was asked for comments and I said that

We don't know the details.

Here. But apparently she is now

is in a state of difficult choice.

That's what I said word for word. I

said that there is no need to stoop to

insults, that is, we need to sort it out

situations. In general, this particular one

he hid this particular case

imperfections of the judicial system. over

This is worth joking about, this is worth, uh, you

so, to laugh musically, as if

highlighting a problem that many

It actually concerns. Here. But

specifically, without understanding, without figuring it out

details, there is no need to give any assessment.

So I know the same thing as everyone else. Here,

I can say I don't know anything, yes,

because it's still unclear why

She found herself in such a situation. Here. AND

why, when she later came out to the people,

She did not name the main reason for her

behavior. I'm sure she was. And she

for some reason I used some kind of well

indistinct

some kind of vague justification, yes,

Why did she do this?

And what do you think was the main one?

cause? Well,

I think Lurye should

suspect of complicity from the outset. Well,

that is, the probability that she is in

scheme, was not equal to zero.

Wait, Valley Lurye in the diagram in one.

No,

no no.

Lou is involved in a scam with scammers,

Certainly. Yes. And until the moment when

It turned out that Luria was not directly involved

from the side of the investigation, yes, there was none

this signal that she is not guilty.

It couldn't be ruled out that she was in the scheme.

Well, that could be an explanation, how

would, yes. I mean, wait, wait,

Let's figure it out. But at that moment when it

if it had already been revealed, it would have been necessary immediately

the right thing to do was to give it up,

so, well, money or immediately somehow

move out of the apartment, as it were. That is

There is no doubt about it.

If you were Doliny, you would immediately

moved out, gave money. Well, let's just say I

I would try to avoid getting into this situation.

But let's get back to creativity.

Polygraph Sharikov team. At all,

First of all, a question about the title. Why

polygraph Sharikov?

Despite the fact that Bulgakov is

the parent of this image, this character,

not the cutest

not the cutest for you. For you

I see something certain in him

satire. I see a certain nationality in him. A

in my interpretation, yes, that is, I am

I'm breaking this image, not the image, but the image itself

the name is slightly different. That is, I have

there are Latin letters there. Here I have

there is, let's say, a stylistic one

design, right? A polygraph is something

noble, old-fashioned on one side

sides, yes, because, well, music with

an orchestra is not what it is

format today. Today

the format is something more

digestible, danceable, understandable

electronic digital product. Yes, we do.

live music is very

expensively made, executed. Means,

A polygraph is something noble. Here

balloons, uh, folk, yard, right? That

there is, in fact, this,

well, in image, in design, in ideology,

This is some kind of street punk, yes,

which achieved

heights defined there, yes,

a certain success,

while remaining within the framework of one's own

some format, yes, because,

despite the fact that this project had

big hits, there are tens of millions,

Means,

signs of attention, that's how it is

It's called. listening there and everyone

those hearts there. And this never happened

format. This is something that has always been met with

some drizzle on the radio stations there,

yes, and on TV channels. Why exactly?

Because this is the kind of music, well, here it is

special.

Special. Why are you doing this?

music, right? That is, do some

another remix, make it more clear.

That's why the polygraph of balls is like this

vintage,

but it still exists. He is not

it just still exists, he has

There are hits. Here, for example, is that song,

which you agreed to uh participate in.

Well, if you're still okay with filming

survive from Istanbul,

Yes? You are from Istanbul. This is also a polygraph.

Shripgraph Shariko,

Yes? That is, when it's not rap,

A great hit with polygraph Sharikov.

You see, you see how

Polygraph Shari, right? This is Sharikov's polygraph.

That is, there is a difference between the project

Seryoga in Latin letters, right? That is

This is rap. Well, if you ask Seryoga

somewhere on digital platforms in Latin

letters, then you will only see rap.

And it’s immediately clear that Sharikov’s polygraph is

urban Romanesque.

I wonder how your city is,

the head of rap and hip-hop in general

in our country, if anyone doesn’t know, it’s

It all started with Seryoga.

No, no, no, no, that's not true. This

not true. That is, uh, it didn’t start with me.

That is, there were those who did it very

professional and very cool to me. AND

there are hundreds of them, that is, for their sake

list. That is, we only know

the biggest names, but we don't know there

We can't list them all; many names have already been forgotten.

But the popularity of this trend began

from you specifically.

No, absolutely not. That is, before this

there was the Bachelor Party, before that there was Bogdan

Titamir, before that there was Deadl, that was

the nineties, and Boomer

exploded in 2004. The first track with which

succeeded

gain some attention from hip-hop

audience. It was They Ruined the Baby. This

2002 year. Second year. That is

it turns out that 10 years before me already

there was Russian rap, and maybe

earlier. That's why I came already, you can

to say, everything is ready.

I'm interested in your general opinion about

modern rap?

Young artists. For me it's this

level, if at the level of metaphor

Take this one, it's art, right? That is

Here we are all artists, here there are more

bright, there are younger ones, more

successful. There are a lot of them, yes, because

now with the help of, well, technology

this is this technological turn

all of this advantage, which

possess

modern people, it is possible very quickly

produce a musical product and quickly

offer it, quickly it

put them on display, like, yeah, that

there is a way to quickly receive a reward. That

there we are, well, at the time when we

we started, of course, we don't have all this

it was, and we finished off the pirates' crumbs. I

I often say this. So here it is simple

All this grows on fertile soil.

And there are hundreds of them too, maybe thousands of these

names. They are all very interesting guys.

These are very talented. I can do this

to say that modern rap is,

May be

became less technical. On the one side,

Yes, on the other hand, he became more

musical, he became more,

that is, in essence, rap today is

mainstream. Here we go again with all these

American words.

That is, if before it was

contourculture, yes, today

even presented as contour culture, it is

essentially, well, it's essentially pop music. This

the most popular music now. Here. AND

if earlier it really was

in rap you couldn't do you couldn't not do

The emphasis is on the meanings, that's what we're talking about now.

the meaning faded into the background somewhere. Not at

all performers, but mainly

the meaning is something secondary. Now

It's important, as they say, e svek, yes,

so that there is flex swag, yes, that is, how

this sounds and what is said. To this too

I have questions. And that's why there is this

Gniusal, yes, where are the quotes analyzed?

there, yes, all the references are there. But overall the most

the main thing is how it sounds, how it is

reduced.

Here. And, of course, modern Russian

rap, it became very similar to

American.

Can you name someone who is right for you?

Do you like, are close to, or do you consider someone

who really adheres to it now?

those kind of rap traditions?

Basta. Basta is a person who

We are all learning. Here is the one that doesn't change

himself for a very long time and does

high quality, very clear product.

Well, you can't even say what it is

product, it's, well, it's music, it's

creation. He is a great artist, very

I have nothing but great respect for him.

By the way, I remembered that you had

conflict with Basta.

Well, we didn't have any real conflict,

because if he was, he would

resolved somehow.

And why is this?

Well, we were just trying to help each other out.

promotion. Well, basically he me

promoted because he was into it at this time

the moment was already very big, and I was already

have forgotten. We had some small ones

There was an altercation. Here. But that's all in

past. From time to time we help each other

We say hello to you in various shows. Well, with

warmth, I think he treats me with warmth

It relates to big people, and I relate to it too.

Well, who else were there conflicts with? Here I am

I read that Seryoga is quite

The controversial character was in the rap industry.

Well,

You see, you're a hostage. You are a hostage

narrative. I had no conflicts with

colleagues in the same industry. That is, we do not

we count some escopads to the side

one or the other.

Because everything was within the genre, like

would, right? That is, well, a real conflict.

- this is what looks like a conflict. Not

looks like a conflict, not only

looks like a conflict, but it is, in fact,

essentially, a conflict. So everything is within the framework

genre. No, I have great respect.

I treat all the guys, and they, many

of them, even if they talk about it publicly

they don't express it, here they are too

they consider me to be somewhat controversial, but

part of the culture after all, because I

made a lot of different music in the style

rap in its time and now too

I do this with pleasure.

You have an amazing biographical fact.

Have you rapped with Zhirinovsky?

I think I even had some

the song is a joint one with him. Olya is sleeping or

something like that, right? That is us

met Vladimir Volfovich in

as part of the Hey program on Channel One.

It's something like two stars or something like that

this is some kind of vocal show where

The producers mixed things that shouldn't have been mixed

mix. They attracted people like this

shocking characters like Vladimir

Volfovich.

Here. Well, I can say right away that he is

He is very, very interesting, like all of us.

we know, he is an orator and an impeccable showman, but

he had absolutely no feeling

rhythm and

musical ear, so you need to

I had to work hard for the studio. But here we are

they made it so that, well, he could rap

read out. Very funny. What does he have to do with it?

improvised. That is, rap on the topic

that love must be real.

Here. it's not worth it, well, quoting there

Zhirinovsky, that is, don't rush

go to bed, no need to undress there, there

get to know each other. That is, he is already like that

then sat down the good, reasonable and eternal,

drowned for valuables. That's why it's here

within the framework of the

This is the kind of playful collaboration we have with him

met and

Did you communicate in real life?

Yes, yes, we communicated.

What are your memories of Zhirinovsky?

It was very interesting to talk to him.

just for me. Why? Because me too

I'm interested in history. And besides, well, no

only history, it

It's kind of different, right? That is, different

There are periods and different presentations.

Here

He

I saw it clearly and distinctly

a global picture of the world. This is the very thing

the main thing is, yes, because we must

to represent a picture of the world. That is, if

you imagine a picture of the world, then further

smaller puzzles can now be put together.

interpretation of this or that event, it

already stems from the understanding of how

Everything is arranged globally. And that's where he is

was very good. That's why all these

predictions that don't actually come true

are predictions, he just knew,

Yes? That is, it is like a surgeon who

knows that if you are there, so to speak,

If you smoke, you'll quit sooner or later.

late lung cancer. He just knew that

it will be so because he is this this

it was in theory for him, in theory and in that

number and in practice.

Here.

But as far as, for example, specifically him is concerned

presentations,

for example, the Soviet feather, well I

here, as a person immersed in

the essence of matter, I do not agree, for example, with

him. I think he is populist there.

was doing. Well, that is specifically and

troops falling towards the Bolsheviks. Here,

for example, I think they don't

correspond to historical

reality. Here. But here we are,

We're probably already touching on what we shouldn't

affect. So again, he is very

worked a lot for the public. In fact

was a dedicated person, yes, that is, with

It was possible with him, that's why I had it with him

It's interesting to talk. That's because

there are some topics,

which can only be discussed with a few

speak to people.

I'll ask, uh, if only,

Well, once again, with all my experience in

he was in life

very modest, that's the conclusion I made

I am a very modest and sociable person

a person,

very simple. What do you think if

Zhirinovsky was alive and, moreover, was

if I were president at all, what would it be like now?

there was Russia and what would happen now?

Zhirinovsky could not become president,

so there is no point in even discussing it.

He was exactly in the right place.

That is, let's say it's possible,

Zhirinovsky in some reality could

I would like to become president, but there is not a single one

president who could be

Zhirinovsky, that's why he was on his own

place.

[music]

Seryozha, you are very talented.

producer.

Well that's it

I can list people.

Why mom? Bianca, Sasha ST,

Yura [ __ ].

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Well, look, no

I didn't write a single song for Sasha ST.

Sasha ST is a self-made man. I just a little bit

helped him, as I believe, at a certain point

moment. And then he left, despite the fact that,

that his mother was very against it. Mother

I really wanted us to continue working,

but due to certain circumstances

Sasha

left the label. So, Bianca. Not a single one

songs, except for Swan, which

Swan. What a hit it was,

which I originally wrote for Max

Lorenzo, unforgettable, very

talented, wonderful of ours

person. But Bianca came at that moment

to our label, and I said, "Sing to

"Yes, that will be on topic. That is, everything

She wrote the rest of the songs herself. That

There is Vianka who made herself. Means,

[ __ ] is a self-made man. So, he is

worked for me for a while

in a show within the production. Here he is very

spectacular

and an expressive dancer. Well, that's a plus

the vision of a great showman, with

producer's vision, as later

it turned out. He's been around for a while

toured with us, and then he

I started doing my projects very

successful. For a while we were very

We had a warm and close conversation.

For example, he has some compositions

showed me first. Well, how?

I think he asked for my opinion there

advice. Here. Well, then he realized that he

successful in everything. Here. And then he

moved straight ahead and thundered. And dozens

projects he created. Here he is, the producer, I

I think so. So, who's left?

Bianca, ST, Bardysh. Well, one more thing. That is

I'm not really a producer. I

I've never been a producer.

You had a production label.

I would have again, what is this in mine

understanding, yes, in my understanding. In mine

in my understanding it's not what it was

commercial, I suppose, right? That is to say, this is

in essence,

Well, it's essentially something like this

there was a comradely education, where I

helped, well, I was more like at that time

a successful creative person, helped

to those who were nice to me, pleasant to me,

just for friends, that is, it is like this

community of friends. Here. That is, simply

one of my friends has a little more

there was money there, well, they had it there

At the moment there was no money or connection. Here. AND

so we tried to create together,

created together, at some point we

separated.

But at the same time you signed some

contact. No, that's the point, we don't

sign, well here again this is a fact, we

did not sign the contract, did not sign

contracts, and therefore, uh, no problem people

left this creative formation.

Well, when they left, you were upset.

Sometimes.

And who were you most upset about?

I was most worried when

was leaving. That's why? because I am to him

became attached to my soul. I was worried about that too.

the moment when Bianca, uh, was leaving us.

But not because Bianca was leaving us, but

because one of my friends was leaving with her

close friend. He was our director

concert. Here. And he is with her, yes,

left. That's what he wanted.

This is the same person by the last name

Shiyan, in which she announced.

This is Mikhail, yes. This,

whom she later accused of

he robbed her for many years,

because producers very often

They're trying to do this, but it's not the same as me,

because I am very independent,

naturally, and it is simply impossible for me

manage.

Do you think this is the main reason?

Maybe a little bit like that

life, when you are here you forget

show the lawyer the contract, here and there

somewhere.

I didn't I didn't forget, I just believed.

I'm honestly too. I'm just purely

I believed it.

I can say this:

Misha is one of the most decent people. Well

that is, I know him like this, I am him like this

I'll remember. His reputation in my eyes

never raised any doubts.

This is very sincere, warm, wise

Human. He is not flawless.

Here. And I am not perfect either. We are in our

At the time, they really enjoyed drinking with him. Not

I know how he feels now.

I think he's doing fine,

here he is, he has projects

some. That is, if at all from

emotions to leave reputationally, it seems to me,

What claims against him, well, I can’t

no complaints to remember. That is it

a very worthy person, and it seems to me,

that Yana should be grateful to him for

the contribution that he, whatever they call it

did not happen. Here in relation to the most

I can also tell Yana that it is very

a worthy girl, very talented,

very consistent. And I with warmth

I always remember the time when we

collaborated. I hope she is the same

feelings towards this

period.

But you didn't try to intervene in their conflict with Shiyan.

somehow intervene, sort things out?

The thing is that I already kind of, well, we are like that

We didn't communicate closely, yes, that was already theirs

business, yes, it was already their business, theirs

path. And no one asked me

some kind of advice, yes, they invited

be a third judge. I'm not in at all

know what was happening there and how,

but it seems to me that this is such a story,

which concerns only them,

just the two of them, and it's not worth putting up with

for everything in common.

Have you seen Bianca's participation in the reality show?

Stars in the jungle?

I didn't see any participation. Well, I know, well,

I understand what you're hinting at, yes, that

this is some kind of story there

Nathan, yes, there, well, that's me

I just know, they told me, yes, that

there would have been such an incident, then, that

supposedly there was someone there, so it was

their interaction is very close. Here.

And, but this was supposedly also done for the sake of

without attracting attention. That is to say, I don't

I can't comment on this in any way, just

I heard that this happened. But it seems to me,

that Yana knew what she was doing. Here. AND

If people were discussing this, well, that means she

She achieved her goal. That

Well, she came to this show for PR.

I think people are discussing this and

They are interested in watching this.

And do you follow the creativity of your own?

wards who worked with you,

then did you leave? Uh, are you watching them?

No, I don't observe. I don't observe. Sometimes

I just see, yes, sometimes you come across them

I'm given some tracks, I listen to them. A

I still have a grudge against someone

among those people we talked about?

No, there is no such person. That is to say, no.

no offense. On the contrary, I want,

so that they might not be somewhere

were angry, not offended. Here. Because

very often

people I wanted to help

after some time, they

experienced, in my opinion, an inflated

the expectation is just towards me, yes,

as a producer. Although this word is in quotation marks

I need to take it and transfer it all to me.

That's why

This is the point that worries me a little,

Yes, that's what we have to do as we grow up

understand that in everything that happens to us

it happens, we ourselves are to blame somewhere, yes,

and it's not worth it

blame someone else.

Well, among them were those very ones

traitors. You often talk about

betrayal.

No.

That is, it is not related to the people who

You produced. So it's something about

your life already? That is, within the framework

creativity

there's just some kind of jealousy, you know,

but there are no traitors among them, no

was.

And among whom are there more traitors in your country?

was there life among men or women?

It is difficult to calculate this balance now. I

I can only say that for me

female and male betrayal is

something equivalent, right? That is,

betrayal has no gender. That is, treason -

This is treason. It all depends on who it is

a person for you, how close is he to

you. It doesn't matter who it is, a man or

woman. It was not for nothing that I started talking about

the producer part of your life,

because, uh, I recently saw a very

such a funny excerpt from the X-Factor show,

where did Dima Monatik come to you,

the artist you said "don't be"

"You will be a star and you will not shine."

Yes.

And this story just recently

surfaced.

Yes.

And uh- what did you feel then when you saw,

What successes has Monatic achieved? Well, that's it.

here is also an example of how

installation can be important for

public opinion, yes, that's exactly it

installation. The thing is that the truth is just

that is what the people who are alive are

This is known and remembered, including by myself

Dima. The truth is that

I was the one who

made it so that Dima got into direct

broadcasts, because they wanted to remove him in this

moment. And in the editing, uh, this video

it breaks off after the comma, yes, because

there I paused and said, "You're not

you will shine,

but we will give you a chance." But I will give you

chance. I'm ready to let you pass further.

That is, the second part of the phrase, that cut off

I'm cutting off the main one, right? That is important

context, that is, it was in context

intrigue, yes, so that the viewer will take his breath away.

Well, now he’ll cut it down, but no, I’m like

once was that person who not only

took him on live broadcasts, insisted

directly. I just know this because I

argued with the producers who wanted, not

saw a continuation in it. I said that

It is absolutely necessary to leave this one

person. And if you don't see it

solo, that is, combine it into

team. Here is the category of the team, I

I'm ready to produce it. There it is

Vanya Safarov, let's combine them. I

did everything to ensure that he stayed on the show.

When the show was over, I was helping the whole

I was just helping a group of artists and filming

them an apartment,

I even paid such mini-benefits, as it were,

Yes, at the moment when they were creating. I

was that person who just

without any obligations first to everyone

I wrote songs for the finalists of the first season.

Moreover, there are even operas in different genres.

it was just so that they would have

songs. That is to say, I would always strive

help. And there were some names there

loud ones, which are now country 404.

Here. That is, they are loud there, and we are there.

Country 404 - is that Ukraine you're calling me?

Well, yes, this is Soviet Ukraine, which

there will be Soviet again one day. Tell me, huh?

here among all the people that you

produced, who helped, how are you

participated in their creative life and

career, many people who will help you later

They called and said thank you and the same thing

offered help, for example, at the moment

some kind of creative crisis.

Even when it was hard for me, I didn't

never dared to ask for help. Well

that is, just in my mo

No, I'm not talking about requests, but specifically about

calls from these people to find out how things are going,

support with something. It seems to me that

It's enough that people think about me

remembered with warmth. Well, that is to say, I'm not waiting,

that they will call me and that's it. That is

somewhere, maybe they can't

get through, yes, because I'm like that too

elusive, yes, I constantly change instead

residence, telephone numbers, and so on.

That is

you constantly change your place of residence

phone numbers.

Well, that's how things turned out in my life.

Who are you hiding from?

No, from no one. I just love the shift

decorations. Somewhere, maybe some bills

I left unpaid ones, so I had to repay them

take a SIM card and so on. Well, that's a joke.

The point is that

I don't feel anything,

Well, I don't feel it from a distance.

some misunderstanding, maybe from

them and any possible negativity there. No

such. Here. I think they are with

everyone remembers with warmth just as they do about

them. Maybe I'm just wrong about that

that I stopped being interested in

how they are doing. Well, because there was

immersed in some of his own problems, in

your fall, your ascent,

restoration and so on. That is, here it is

I was busy with myself and just stopped

be interested there. And maybe they

needed my help. More likely

Well, that's how it was.

So I started talking about creative crisis.

It's no coincidence that you always, uh, look at

popular artists, musicians, who

are going through these crises, and everyone is going through them

differently. Many people have them

dependencies. There's someone drinking, someone

uses prohibited substances, and some even

can't get out of depression, someone still

does not return to the stage. I know that

You also had a difficult time. How did you do it?

overcame?

Where? How do you know this?

Well, how did you talk about it?

No, I was just born and raised like this

the proposed circumstances, where

Alcohol was the norm. That is, earlier in

During Soviet times it was common to use

alcohol, and popular culture too

promoted this installation. That is

We all have our favorite movies, yes, and plus

traditions, there are holidays, birthdays,

some kind of family gathering. That is,

Well, there was alcohol everywhere, yes. So

it turned out that, uh, I'm not including

critical thinking, like many of my

peers, joined in enough

at an early age, yes, that is, it became

part

normality. Here. And only after some time

I realized

What an underestimated evil this is. Yes, but I don't

I want to be stuffy here and be like

Shlemenko, because he's already talked about it

he said, and I completely agree with him.

This is indeed true. This needs to be given

This is exactly the assessment I give to this. Alcohol -

It's a drug. Alcohol is the most

a real drug. And just like that

a drug, it shortens your consciousness,

He takes away your time. Not only

health, it's just killing you

slowly. And the sooner you understand this and

you will refuse this,

the better. And in this regard, Vasya

Basta Makulenko, yes, this is the man,

who did the impossible, just yes,

because he understood it before all of us,

I overcame this in myself and led a sober lifestyle

life, was engaged in creativity, was engaged in

work.

Now while many of us, well,

They were just wasting their time.

That's all. So I realized it too

late. Well, in my understanding I would why

too late? Now, now you're good

You look healthy, this is what we are doing now

we are not discussing the future now, yes, or

present. Here we are discussing that time,

which could be used

in a different way. But I can say for sure that

that this period is behind us. Today's

young people are stronger in this regard,

more reasonable. That is, I am watching

around me and I see that now it is very

many

people live more consciously than young people, yes,

than we were, for example, at their age. That