Global Access Bars Celebration April 2026 | Access Bars: Real Stories & Real Results ​

and welcome to this global bar

celebration today. Katarina Valentine

joining me here from Sweden today. Thank

you so much for being my co-host today

and and and celebrating this day

together.

>> Yes. And it's just beginning obviously

we like not even one minute in we're

already going.

So, um, for all of you online and all

our amazing pops around the world, um, I

just went through, um, the back end and

I saw how many thousands of people

around the world already signed up to

listen to this. Today, we have 19

languages. Hello and welcome everyone.

My language skills are unfortunately not

enough to greet you in 19 different

languages. Um but we also have um what

we call satellite classes or um pops

parties of possibilities where people

invited friends um to swap uh bars

sessions and listen to this and um

probably some of our backend team can

give us some information on how many

pops and where in the world they are.

And I think we are literally live on

every continent right now which makes me

very very proud. But these are some

numbers to the back end. Now let's get

into this thing called access bar.

Katarina, how long are you already

enjoying the gift of receiving bath

sessions?

>> Yeah, I was thinking of that right

before like when did I receive my first

bar session? I think it's 16 years ago

now. And there hasn't been there hasn't

been a single week when I haven't got my

bars run and often more than that. So

I've received and gifted like tens of

thousands of bar sessions. It's it's

quite amazing. And at this point my

whole body and being just knows that

when I lay down and somebody puts their

hands on my head,

we're going. And maybe that's where we

start today. Because if there's people

on here who've just joined us who

doesn't even know what bars is, we

actually wanted to start by showing a

video of what bars is.

>> I think that's a great idea to let the

world know what is it getting your bars

run? Are you running? Is it a workout?

Is it a massage?

Do I need to take my clothes off? Um all

these questions that are spinning around

in your heads. We will share the video

soon. Um, what it actually is for me is

an incredible way of relaxing your

brain. It's the ultimate gift for

creative people who have difficulties

turn off their minds and being

concentrated or doing um yoga classes

without constantly taking notes and

having new ideas. Um, so

>> I just have to jump in then. So, David

really needs to relax his brain. So

that's what it is for him. And bars is

this amazing thing that actually also

relaxes your whole body. And sometimes

when there's a body thing going on like

even something a back pain, you know,

your your knee is a little out of whack

and you get your bars run and because

the bars really integrates and relaxes

things that are going on in your life,

your body, you know, is part of that as

well. So, not only does it relax your

brain, which is great if you're like me

and you have very active brains, it also

relaxes the body. It's now it's my first

go-to. When something is like a little

wacky in my body, I get my bars run and

see maybe it's not what I think it is.

Maybe it has to do with something

completely different. And having my bars

run really allows my body and my being

to Okay, yeah, maybe we can choose

something different here. Well, I think

we warmed them up well enough now,

Katarina, everybody's like, "What is

this? Show us. Show us." So, tech team

in the back end, are we ready to share

with our guests um our first video? What

is this access bars and what does it

mean to get your bars run? Tech team,

take it off.

>> We're starting right now. So, you're

rolling already. Okay, got it.

>> Testing, testing. One, two. Bob,

>> say something. If I go like full dweeb,

you'll just cut it and we'll try again,

right?

>> Say your question again.

It's an effortless technique

that invites you to let go of everything

that isn't yours. It allows a space to

open up, a lightness that may be an

invitation to more of you than you ever

imagined.

>> It felt alive and real. So that for me

was

just gold. I was so happy. It was so

gratifying and fulfilling to finally

have that feeling and that connection

with the universe.

Before bars,

I was definitely trying to figure my

life out and do it right. With bars in

my life, I have the space to choose to

have perspective

and

enthusiasm.

Whatever that thing is that you have

decided can't change,

what if it could? And what if it was as

easy as lying on a table and receiving a

bar session that could start that

change?

the sense of hopelessness and desperate

anxiety I used to have started to just

diminish away and and there was this

sense of peace and calmness which I

hadn't had in a long long time.

>> One of the most simplest things that you

can do for me it's self-care.

It's something to incorporate in your

daily life that opens up so much space.

It gives me like such a sense of peace

and ease and such a joy to be here and I

get that I get to be that in the world

not just for me but for everyone around

me.

>> I think access consciousness bars is

probably one of the best kept secrets

that exist out there.

>> The worst thing that could happen is to

just relax. The best thing is you could

get the life you know you can have and

you deserve

>> an invitation to receive and change

without the effort and the hardship that

we think is required. It's quite a gift

to the world and the planet.

>> I literally would just say go for it.

>> Do it. Don't wait.

>> Go for it.

>> Get your bars run.

H

Watching that video always creates such

a peace in my mind and thank you for

your reminder. I think it's really not

just about relaxing the brain. Beautiful

introduction of what a bar session can

actually create in your body in your

brain and further on in your life.

>> And there is a part of the video I think

it's um one of the women say get your

bars run. And it's one of the things

that once you once you've started, once

you get your bars run, it really is like

when things go a little wonky in life,

when you're stuck in something, when you

keep thinking of something and somebody

who knows you get your bars run

regularly, will say, "Hey, just get your

bars run." Because they can hear how

it's kind of like a loop that we so

often do in life. We've learned that we

have to figure out this. We have to

compute this. We have to, you know, the

right answer is there. I'm just going to

have to get there. And then you get your

bars run and takes like an hour. You you

sit up and you go,

how could I make that so relevant? Why

did I make that even matter? It's not

relevant. So there is such a freedom in

your life that comes from getting your

bars run.

>> And that freedom started 30 years ago.

For those of you who wonder and and

Anthony Matis beautifully mentioned it

in the video, it's one of the best kept

secrets. Well,

ex uh started 30 years ago by a guy

called Gary Douglas um who literally had

his first bars session in his garage in

California. Um, and we have prepared a

little video to share with you how this

beautiful, brilliant technique came into

life. Are we ready for our next video?

>> I remember the first bars class was out

in the converted garage behind the house

and there was what, two, three people

there?

>> Four.

>> Four people.

>> So, if you think that you can't create

something, you should look at this.

The first time I did it, I asked the

person, "Okay, so what'd you get out of

it?" And they said, "Well,

it seems to access a new space of

possibility."

Every time you touch one of those bars

in my head, my life gets better.

Bars are 32 different points on the

head. It's like a computer bank of all

the thoughts, feelings, emotions,

attitudes, and considerations you've

ever had in any lifetime. It gets stored

in there. And when you clean them by

running the bars, what happens is that

deletes the file in that and suddenly

you're different. Your whole life can

change. You can change physically,

mentally, emotionally, all kinds of

different ways.

I watch people have these 32 different

points run and watch them get up off the

table different. They never go back to

being who they used to be.

>> What does bars mean?

>> It's like a bar that goes through your

head that has all the all the thoughts

that you've ever heard or thought that

are not yours stored.

I like bars.

>> Me, too.

>> It's one of my favorite things in the

world cuz it relaxes me and makes me

happy.

>> And by the way, it's okay to be happy

when other people aren't.

>> Hi everybody. It's Gary

>> and Dane. Welcome to the bars class.

>> No matter how bad you think you are,

nobody has ever been worse than me. So,

if I can do it, so can you.

The only thing that can happen is things

get better and at the worst

>> you'll feel like you had a great

massage. Best case scenario, your whole

life can change.

>> All I can tell you is when I when I saw

the results, my jaw dropped. I was so

astounded. You got to remember, I've

been doing this for 16 years. I have

seen brains of every kind and and all

different kinds of conditions. This is

the very first time I was blown away. It

takes a lot to blow me away. This blew

me away.

>> I was 30 years old. I was starting my

second chiropractic practice. I was

living in Santa Barbara, this beautiful

paradise, and I was dying inside.

I set a date to end my life 6 months in

the future. Then I came across something

called access consciousness because I

saw this tiny little ad in the paper

that said access all of life comes to me

with ease and joy and glory. So I put

this tiny little ad in the free local

paper and I hear the phone ring in the

other room.

Hello. Hi. Um my name is uh Dane Her and

you were so cool. You were like I'd

really love to check out what you do.

And I was like okay. So I do this stuff

called access and we would start with

the bars and you're like cool somehow we

got together.

>> I walked into the session depressed and

suicidal with a plan and a date to end

my life. I walked out of it an hour and

15 minutes later with a sense of peace

and joy and a gratitude for being alive.

If it feels like this to be alive I'm

in.

Within a few months, I started working

for Access Consciousness. And at the

point when I started, we were in the

United States, Australia, and New

Zealand. And we had two facilitators.

Now we're in 176 countries. We have

almost 13,000 facilitators.

Actually,

the bars makes you feel comfortable.

You can do them and they really relax

you, make you calm, comfort. It's a

whole lot of things that the bars can do

and it can unlock energy that you don't

really need.

It felt like a new world started. It

felt like it felt like you were being

reborn.

>> The kids just turned into these little

puddles of love. I saw how the kids

would become more concerned with the

other children in the room. And I didn't

see as much separation between the boys

and the girls.

One father came to me to said, "Oh, my

daughter, I got home today and uh I was

very stressed and my daughter said,

"Dad, come here. I'm going to do bars

and you're going to be relaxed." And how

come my daughter are teaching me how to

be more relaxing?

There is a boy, the autistic, he didn't

want to do the the sessions. And after

three weeks, I asked him, "Do you want

to try today?" And he said with his hat,

we start to relax a little bit. And he

start to communicate more, drawing more.

The teacher was so happy. The family was

so happy, too.

Hi,

my name is Leah. I'm 10 years old. I

live in Mexico City and I'm a bar

facilitator.

I learned that I'm not wrong. I can be

bright and I can shine even though the

others choose why they choose. In the

school, we had to do a project about

conflicts and how to solve them. And

mine was very different. Mine has like

questions, how does it get any better

and get your words wrong. You need to

communicate and ask to solve conflict.

my very first bar class, very first

class that I taught I was able to teach

uh almost 100 girls in Nepal. Seeing

them relax for the first time in like a

long time, it was so moving.

But I was able to give them something

that contributes for the rest of their

life. When you spread the sparks in the

world and and light them fire, I think

that's a really cool thing to do. So,

I'm very inspired to do that.

I graduated from law school with a human

rights degree and I worked in human

rights. I saw a lot of places that I

didn't like

the way they treated women back then. I

hated men and I hated myself. The first

session of war I was like

I don't need to fight anymore. In the

first year like no one heard about the

wars in the area.

First class I had I had zero

participant. Second one there was six

and then the number started to multiply

like till this day it's like I started

June 2016 in 2018 the law of um that

allowed women to drive it was an what I

love about access the bars is like it's

it is the infinite possibilities. I

can't know what is exactly what is going

to happen but I can assure you the

possibilities are just going to come.

>> I was wondering what would be an

interesting way to introduce the access

bars to a completely different crowd of

people. Two weeks before my show opened

all the bars session appointments were

all booked up.

It's an amazing gift to give the world,

but it's an amazing gift to give someone

and for them to have that place where

they could start to create their lives.

It opens the door to receiving

everything you actually know. You may be

the one person that comes out with an

idea that changes the world. Don't give

up. If everybody in the world could be

present as themselves and never judge

themselves, this would be a world worth

living in.

And that's what I want to create.

We're back.

>> We are back from our journey around the

world.

170 plus countries and so many areas

people started using these tools and I

think Katarina we do have some of those

numbers available um where can you find

a bars facilitator um and how many are

there around the world

>> well I mean if you talk about bars

facilitators there's like nearly 14,000

bars facilit or bars practitioners ers

no bars facilitators. I think it's like

14,000 bars facilitators. But the number

that got me so excited is that if we

look at how many people who are a bars

practitioner, which means that you've

taken a bars class at any time, there's

nearly 750,000

people all around the world that has

taken a bars class that actually can run

bars. You know, who knows how many times

they've done it, but they have. Talking

about taking a basket, how long does it

take to learn how to give a session? Can

you just give a very short recap? How

how do you learn to run bars?

>> Well, to learn I mean the bars class is

one day, one single day and you get to

run bars twice and you get to receive

bars twice during that day and then you

become a bars practitioner. Not a a

facilitator is one who can teach that

class and you can become that too. But

if we start with just becoming a bars

practitioner, just knowing how to run

bars, you're able to swap with anyone

all around the world. And a session

takes around 45 minutes an hour, I would

say. And it can be shorter if you don't

have time. Half an hour bars or 20

minute bars is better than no bars. So,

so that's it's so easy. One single day.

And we actually have you can take these

classes in person all around the world

with those one of those 14,000 bars

facilitators, but you can also take this

class online. You can you can actually

sign up with a partner and you can learn

to run bars online. And we have a class

coming up in the beginning of June with

Dr. Dne here or you can take, you know,

you can find somebody in your area. You

know, it's just like one single day to

give yourself and your body to learn how

to run bars. So once you learned how to

run bars um and be become a bars

practitioners, what are the

possibilities for you? What what can you

do with the ability to run bars? What

are the areas that people use it in?

>> Well, you can use it in in all kinds of

areas including, you know, run with

friends and family. But one thing that

we've been exploring the last few years

is how to bring bars into businesses,

into schools, into organizations, into

the military, bring it to different all

kinds of different areas of life here on

the planet basically. And we call it

bars in business, but that word business

really means any kind of business.

>> Well, I think we started it as bars in

business um during the COVID pandemic.

there was such a big reach out to us

because everybody was so stressed. But I

think maybe after this it's time to to

to rename it because it's goes way

beyond business. Um offering these 45 to

one hour sessions to every area in life

where people are concerned and stressed

is the greatest gift. And I think we

have another video for our guests today

where we um give them an overview of

what did they what are the possibilities

once you know um how to run bars and

give a bar session.

bars in business is a program for more

mental wellness in businesses.

The access bars is a hands-on

technique where a facilitator touches

certain points on your head and by doing

so creates this incredible

space of relaxation for your brain for

45 minutes to reload their batteries. um

to destress and to go back to work fully

recovered like a 6-hour deep sleep.

I work with Access Consciousness now and

have for quite a few years. So, I'm

lucky that it's actually already part of

my business and part of everyday life.

Before here, I worked for almost 15

years in animal welfare and different

roles working, you know, where there's

it's it was quite a stressful

environment and we didn't have anything

like that. Like, no one ever really

talked about taking care of you. And I

think bars could create

a a force of people that loved what they

did a lot more and were more productive

and more happy to get up and go to work.

It's a space opener and I think really

in the end it would just create a

happier a happier world.

I love to get my bars run cuz it helps

me focus. I have an increased sense of

vitality when other people are really

stressed. I was always performing well

because of it. For me, it just creates a

sense of like peace in my world.

So the bars in business is so much about

creating more ease in in the workforce

but not just in the workforce in your

life. Um I mean I wrote a book called

Joy of Business. So for me it's like

your whole entire life is your business

and your business is your life. Like I

always say if you wake up in the morning

and you have blood running through your

veins you're in business because how are

you choosing your life? So for me,

instituting bars into your life on a

regular basis is such a contribution.

Now I've been using bars for about 15 16

years and ultimately it just creates so

much more relaxation and focus and peace

in my world. And I see it as such a

valuable tool and technique, you know,

when you're like trying to solve a

problem or dealing with high stress

situations.

Um, sometimes you just need to step away

for a moment and gain some perspective

and relax a little bit. And then when

you approach the situation with a bit

more vitality and a bit more

perspective, bars is invaluable in those

cases.

Happy people make for a happier world

and I would just invite everyone to look

at how we can have more happy people in

the world and bars in business is

definitely one of those.

>> Helps me reset. Um you don't have like

the highs and lows emotionally that you

would typically get without getting my

bars run. So I notice it right away. Um

and it really helps me with a lot of

things in my life outside of that. You

don't have to be miserable. You know,

just because you're in business doesn't

mean that you have to be unhappy. You

can literally choose joy in business.

>> It's like I have the helicopter view of

what's going on within the business

rather than getting lost in the woods.

And bars absolutely

contributes to that.

>> Excess bars is a very unique

method. Try it out. Give it a try. 45

minutes and you will know.

And we're actually going to continue on

this theme. We're going to have one of

the beautiful men in the video with a

beard, Sean, and our beautiful host

here, David, are going to do a little

conversation right now about athletes

and bars. And here he is, Sean. Welcome.

>> Hello. Hello.

Good morning. Good early morning, Sean.

Thank you so much for joining us in the

US time. So here um and thank you. We

just saw you in the video beautifully

explaining what a bar session actually

does for stressed people in an office

environment. But the reason why are you

our guest today is probably not the

business world because you were brave

enough to take access even further to an

area where you actually don't want to

relax and sleep and kind of recover. You

want to go into the peak performance and

perform as faster and quicker and better

than ever before. You are the one who is

leading bars for athletes. So,

how can you use a method that relaxes

you when you actually want to pump

yourself up to to win the Olympics?

>> Exactly.

>> It is uh it's counterintuitive to most

athletes. I would say for them it's

about force and it's about performance,

right? And how do you how does bars tie

into that? Well, it has been a really

fun journey and it's been a team of

people that have been involved,

>> not just me, but

>> yeah, we have seen some remarkable

results from some of the athletes. I

mean, in the last So, we did the um a

big CrossFit event called the Argentina

throwdown back in December where we

looked at 60 or we ran bars on over 60

different athletes and we actually did

some studies. uh the the person down

there that helps us out, her name is

Adriana

and she's the one bringing us in and did

the studies, right? And what was

interesting at the beginning of like

this was during the event or right

before uh we looked at things like

perceived level of stress in the moment

where 71% of the athletes were

experienced extreme stress and after

their 20 or 30 minute bar session that

was they were 81%

came back and said that they had

perceived very little. Um anxiety is

obviously a big thing for athletes as

they get prepared for their competition

and before it was 86% were extreme and

after it was 95% reported low or no

stress. So, it's helping these not only

helping these athletes from a a stress

level that they experienced before or

during competition, but we also looked

at physical f fatigue where 67% had

reported extreme fatigue and after only

20 to 30 minutes, 71% reported low, 29%

reported moderate. So, not only is it

helping with the anxiety, but also from

the fatigue aspect of the performance.

Um, we saw some really cool results

there, too. So, it's amazing what it

does.

>> Well, we have Adriana as our guest later

on here as well to share her her

experience.

>> Oh, cool.

>> What I'm curious, I think this was not a

one-off event. You're already planning

another participation. What What is

coming up for

where is it?

So, this will be in Florianopoulos,

Brazil. It's called the Copaser 2026.

It is the semifinal for these CrossFit

athletes. Um, we'll have over 200

athletes there, uh, 15,000 spectators.

It's in a massive facility there, and

that is May 1st through May 3rd.

So you are going to are you going to run

bars there? Are you are you part of the

team? How how did you manage to bring a

modality like access bars into the

organization and how do you how do you

set it up during the event?

>> That's a great question and again you're

going to talk with Adriana. She's the

one who is helping it like she is our

biggest advocate and has rolled out the

red carpet for this event. Um, so we're

doing a couple things and the first

thing we're doing is one of Gary's

requests was be, you know, it's great to

do it during, you know, run bars during

the event, but what if we could get a

few athletes to come in before and see,

you know, people who are might be

struggling or just not in peak

performance at the moment. Um, and so we

put out an email, Adri did, and within

like within one day, we had over 16

athletes reply wanting to get a bar

session. So, we'll have sessions going

before and we'll do surveys for them.

Uh, and then during the event, we will

have right outside of the competition

floor. Uh, and these are like extreme

athletes. If you don't know anything

about CrossFit, look at it. It's it's a

professional level sport and it's

growing. Um, so right off the

competition floor, we'll have a bunch of

beds where athletes can go straight from

competition and get their bars run. We

do 20 30 minute sessions. We'll have

booths around uh the the facility. It's

massive. Um, where just regular

spectators can go and get a free trade.

And then we've got some really cool

things happening during it where we have

Ricky Williams who is a professional

athlete, former Heisman Trophy winner.

He is going down to uh do a speech on

the second day, which is May 2nd at 7:30

p.m. um to talk to everyone about not

only bars but access tools. And then on

the last day, which is May 3, um we are

a a friend of mine, Danny and myself, we

are having a a bars class in the

auditorium where Ricky would speak as

well. And 700 people can sit in that

auditorium. So, we're looking forward to

a really big turnout. But that's kind of

the schedule and everything we got going

on.

>> That sounds amazing. You mentioned that

Adriana was the one initiating it. So as

as we have thousands of people listening

to us, what if there is another Adriana

who probably is a professional football

player, uh baseball player, you name it.

H how would they um get started with

their own project with Bath and

Athletes? Um do they reach out to you?

What what would you suggest for people

who want to copy what Adriana did? Can

they that does the

>> they can if they go to the we we're

working on the website for bars for

athletes at the moment but they can go

to bars and business and we've got a

landing page there. you can reach out to

myself or Megan or David, you know, you

can bring him and we can get everything

and help you get everything set up from

social, from um, you know, points of

contact to other bars practitioners in

your area that you can have come and

help. We have so many resources and

David, you've just been awesome with

bars and business and getting all of

that aligned. It just makes all of our

life easier. So, yes, we can definitely

help if there's anyone out there who's

got some really cool events they'd like

us to be a part of as it comes to

athletes.

>> So, you mentioned a new website, Bar for

Athletes. When when can we hope to get a

first uh sneak peek?

>> We probably within the next month.

>> Wonderful.

>> Yeah. Last question, Sean, before we

directly go to interview with to the

interview with with Adriana. um a lot of

um professional athletes, I mean you

know football clubs, um hockey clubs,

they have their own private doctors and

they're all very much interested in in

research. Is there research going on

especially for um increasing your

performance with excess bars or is that

something that hasn't started yet?

>> Uh that's in motion. So, at all of the,

you know, the two events, the one that

we have come or the one that we've done

with the Argentina throwdown and then

the Copasaur,

we'll have, we're doing kind of our own

research at the moment. It's it's not

this reality's research of a medical

doctor doing it, but as the athletes get

their get their sessions, um, we're

talking to them before. We've got a

whole list of questions that we asked

before. What were the results after? So

that's been the majority of our research

so far um for the bars for athletes

side, but we have some other stuff in

the works.

>> So there's a lot in the works. Sean,

thank you so much for for making us

appetite for more. I will definitely be

watching out for the website and poking

you to get it up and running. Um, and I

hope also that you will come back from

Floronopoulos from the Copasur uh event

with lots of more updates and

information. Sean, thank you so much for

joining me here. Um, and as we uh just

spoke so much about Adriana,

the lady who literally initiated that

access bars can actually start this

direction. um was interviewed by

Katarina Valentine and I think well

let's just listen now to what Adriana

has to share with us about bars for

years.

>> So joining me now is Adriana and she has

been redefining what the human body is

capable of doing after 40 years old. She

is a former professional athlete, a

coach and currently the event director

for Copas which is the Latin American

CrossFit Games semi-final. And in 2025,

she bridged the gap between elite

competition and alternative recovery by

introducing access bars to hundreds of

athletes and thousands of spectators

across Brazil and Argentina. So today or

right now, we'll be exploring how the

bars could be like a secret weapon for

faster regeneration, injury prevention,

and mental focus for athletes. So,

welcome Adriana.

Thank you so much, Cat, for this

introduction. Yes, I did it.

>> You did. Well, so let's start with you.

Like, how did how did bars contribute or

change the way you be with your body and

how you be with the athletic parts of

your body?

>> Wow, that was a huge difference in my

life. This was I was in the pre-season.

What week? this season competition

season starts. I was preparing myself

and as athlete we are always asking for

something new. We are always making

questions asking

what can help me recover better. You

know we are seeking for something as

athlete. I was actually I will speak for

myself. I was always seeking for

something to help me to recover better

to sleep better. And one day access bars

came true by

the people the person that was a friend

of mine. She's a really good friend of

mine. She invite me to make part of

conversation with women's conversations.

And in that moment, someone between this

group of women's she told she was

talking about bars and my body says that

you know when your body just say

something for you. What is that access

bars?

>> Yeah.

>> And she just give me some a little

explanation. You must to find someone

close to you to run the bars and blah

blah blah. My body just say to me go

there you know and

wow was a game change literally

literally talking about game was a game

change for me. I was uh preparing myself

for the competition season and my body

just was doing great completely

different from another another moment of

my life and I just realized that okay

the only thing I am doing different is

bars I will keep doing this and after

competition season I will make more

researches about it

simple

That's amazing. So, so

just like so when you then were working

with the CrossFit semi-final and you had

you put these elite, you know, athletes

on the table, how was it like how was

that for them? What was their reaction

when they got this process run for the

first time? And how long was it? How did

you, you know, how did you do it? How

did you introduce it to the athletes?

I invite them to join for the first time

at the copasur as venture actor. I

invite them to join us for this uh

recovery tool. H just telling them look

you go lie down someone will touch your

head and you just recover better. You

will sleep better this night. H for the

compassur I asked them okay if you have

done all your competitions during the

day you can come here later and get a

longer session but if you have a

competition to do during the day if you

are in between competitions

you can join us to have a 20 minutes 30

minute session and that was amazing they

were so surprised

when they were talking talking with me

after that they just was wow what is

that I like so much I'm feeling

full recovery I'm ready to go for the

competition floor again and crash

was amazing was beautiful it was like

this they were excited

>> well then in Argentina I think you also

did a survey, right? In in addition to

actually providing or offering bars, you

did a survey. So, what did that survey

show? What did you find when you were

asking questions about sleep and

recovery?

>> Wow. The results, we are not looking for

results, I know, but the results of the

survey was amazing. cat.

They show me what I

what I was perceiving since first time I

get my bars are and the survey showed me

of okay this is amazing tool for

everybody in this part world because the

result was amazing. They was feeling

much less anxiety

after bars, more focus.

The mental clarity was very high after

bars and even their bodies

was perceiving the the

recovery effects of the bars the

session.

All of them were surprised. And one one

thing, one piece here for me was huge

>> in Argentina.

I made it

in the in the competition environment,

you know, was two floor and the the the

floor zero, let's say, was the

competition floor and the first floor

here in open area was a public area for

everybody watch the athletes there. I

build this place for them there. So was

in their environment with very loud

music, a lot people going through

everywhere. And even in this

environment, the athletes go in the

table and they shut down.

They might just get calmer calmer

calmer. Some of them told me after I I I

slept during the session was amazing was

beautiful and they were very well

recovered and perceiving their body

ready to go again. This was awesome.

>> That's amazing. That's truly so amazing

also in that environment and also the

sessions were not that long, right? Is

that correct? like 15 20 minutes

>> maximum 30 was between 20 to 30. So in

Argentina

>> when I when I build the the questionary

I was

perceiving my body asking to my body

what questions should I ask them and how

long this session

uh must take. I was following my body. I

make questions and I perceive yes and

no. Go here,

>> go there. This is the maximum. And I got

it. Okay. It's maximum for these

athletes is 30 minutes because they are

in competition. They have a more event

to do after. If they their day is done,

that's okay. get it longer but if not

math with 30 minutes and was amazing.

>> You also talked about um

connecting energetically with like

equipment like barbells and this is so

fascinating. How does that mental

energetic connection lead to more

effective training?

I'm so grateful for access consciousness

to to open the new door, a new way, a

new universe of possibilities for me and

every single day is the same. Today I

did exactly exactly what you are talking

about now. I did in my morning session

today was a huge session, heavy session

with heavy weights and gymnastic skills

uh movements

and I was in alone at the the the this

place where I were were training the

crossfit gym completely alone 6:00 a.m.

in the morning and I was connecting

myself with all the equipments,

>> everything there and I I just asked my

body body lower my barriers and I asked

my body to

to my being to expand out and perceive

the energy of the equipment

and I I get it before I lift from the

floor

125 kilos in the barbell today.

I was perceiving the plates,

the bar and very fast. This is not long.

I was there. I just opened my arms and I

perceive the equipment

and I I perceive in my body that's okay.

Go there. Lift it. You are good. This is

okay for you. You know, it's funny. And

yes, I I I do this.

This is this

ability. Everybody has it is for free

>> and this is a prevention.

>> And I'm talking with my colleagues and

with

some athletes that I can this is for

free and this can prevent injuries.

So you can ask you are allowed to ask

>> you don't need to pay to for ask them to

contribute with you and to let your body

know if this weight is good for your

body if it not

>> and when I I you know when I perceive

something

I ask questions. This is mine.

>> This is not mine.

Who does it belong to?

And I perceive this is is with me or I

am picking up something someone else

thought you know about what's going on.

>> And this is gold for us athletes. This

is gold, you know. We can

>> it's like working with your body.

in deep connection with the body and

also

aware

aware about what's going on here.

>> I am I'm going to the competition floor

after years. I qualified for the

semi-final for the CrossFit games in my

age category. I got the spot. So, I'm so

happy with this and I will be competing

in the official competition, a big

competition in June

and I know that will be in Colombia in

Medlin Colombia in June. So I'm I'm

preparing already my body to be high

aware what is going on around me and

bars allows me to be deeply connected

with my body and the same time aware

about what's going on around me. I'm

here in my lane to do my movements to

beat them you know and in the same time

I am working to do this connect with the

equipment and aware who is coming here

who is passing faster than me you know

and and in the same time completely

focused

focus where with what I am

Wow. And I cannot express my gratitude

for access because of my athletes

carrier Kahir and my

my joy

the joy to be athlete and to do workout

and to move in my body and not with more

the talks. No pain no gain. No pain no

gain. No, it's not mine. Who does this

belong to? You know, for me, it's just

joy and fun and yeah, enjoying my life.

This is amazing.

>> Wow, that is so beautiful. We could go

on exploring forever and we're going to

have to round it up and I just That was

such a good place to end on. Thank you

so much for coming on and for really

inviting people to start using bars to

get in that deep communion with their

bodies and actually start having a

conversation with their bodies. Thank

you so much, Adriana.

>> Thank you so much, Kat, for your time.

Thank you so much.

>> Okay, we're back a little quickly. I

just want to take a moment and take you

further on because now we're going to go

to Asia. We're going to have an

interview where David talks about how

you can bring bars also to hospitals and

even just specifically for doctors. And

right after that, we're just going to

take a moment like five minutes and just

be with how bars are all over the world.

So, first to Asia and then a little

worldwide tour.

And today now I have the great honor to

interview my amazing friend Ryan T who

is originally from Malaysia. Uh started

his f first bar session. I think it was

over 15 years ago and has since then

explored and I want to say conquered the

Asian world um with his bars classes

creating miracles in the in the entire

Australian

uh area. Welcome Ryan. Thank you so much

for being on today.

>> Hello David. Thank you for that. Um and

hi everyone.

So Ryan um always goes into the beyond.

Um and what what I love about him that

whenever people go this is too

difficult, this is not possible. This is

where he starts and what he did for exis

bars um he actually facilitated an

entire bar class for more than 10

medical doctors. one area that a lot of

people um have difficulties with because

they always think that doctors don't

believe in energy. So Ryan, you made the

impossible possible. You facilitated a

class only for doctors. Um can you just

share how how did this come along that

you had 10 doctors asking you to give

them a math class?

Well, um I know them for about two

years. So, started about two years ago,

I started to attend some trainings about

body work and so that's where those

doctors uh they knew me and I I would

say one thing is um they don't try to

sell access bars. They don't try to sell

consciousness. So I was never even for

once like telling telling them that hey

this is what you should do you know but

because uh people might see that as like

you are like trying to show them you are

much greater and then they also maybe

from their side maybe they also think

that oh whatever I'm doing this is the

best you know so don't sell it don't

sell access like Gary said that you

cannot sell access you can also you can

only invite people to more possibilities

and how do you invite uh just by what

you be. So what do I mean by that? Uh so

after they knew me for one year plus

then they started to have some

curiosities about what I was doing. So

they asked me and I show them what they

could receive. Okay? Don't show people

everything just because they ask you one

simple question like what do you do and

then you start telling them like all the

stories for two hours. And so and then

they also saw that um like because

sometimes I I was like um helping them

with a with a few things like let's say

they're like oh I I think I'm I'm having

some pain or something and they're like

okay let me try something with you and

then they're like oh that's amazing and

again I still didn't sell them anything.

I'm like oh yeah so that's it. And then

uh and then finally they asked me like

hey we really want to learn this from

you and some of them they have already

heard about access bus from other places

but they didn't get the chance to learn

or maybe they the timing was just not

right for them because they are very

busy and well universe has its own sense

of timing and it's so u that day I just

cancel a class uh in Taiwan and about 1

hour later. So they asked me like, "Hey,

we want to learn from you. When do you

have a class?" I'm like, "Um, I just can

a class." So I have, they just became

available. And then they're like, "Yes,

yes, yes, we want that." So that's how

it got created. That's how it got

started.

So

a year and a half, almost two years of

of engaging and being present with with

them. And what I love about you, right,

you you really had uh the patience

um to wait until they ask. And of course

um there was this one day that you were

available and then everybody said,

"Okay, we will make it." Um so when you

started that bar class, what was

different? Was it different than a

normal bar class? Um how did you how did

you get to work with just with with just

doctors in the room?

Um honestly before I started that class

I had a lot of like all kind of thoughts

like h what is it that they can hear

they cannot hear what is it that they

want. So I intentionally uh made that

class all about only for them so that we

can talk about like how to use uh access

to help themselves to contribute to

their own lives and also to their

clients if that's what they choose to do

and if that's what their clients can

receive.

Uh so that's the intention for that

class and it turned out that that class

it was very easy very simple um and I I

I would even say that they receive bars

and also that class very very well it's

like one of the bars classes that I have

facilitated that

it was the most wellreceived so I was

shocked I was surprised and of course I

was very happy about that

>> and you told One very funny thing you

mentioned that they had difficulty

finding the points.

How did you resolve that?

>> Well, it's it's not that um they had

difficulties in finding the points. Um

it's more like some of them they are not

so used to this energy work. So yes,

they they found the points they they

they know they knew like where to put

the fingers their fingers but um it's

like some of them they're like just like

many other people like at first we like

oh I'm not so sure if I'm having my

fingers at the right place like I

couldn't feel energy but it's not that

they couldn't feel energy. I mean, some

of them they felt it right away and some

of them they I could sense that they

actually felt it but they're like um I'm

not so sure like if this is uh the

correct way of feeling the energy. Um so

I have to use their language. So I ask

them like okay so like if by having

let's say having your fingers here

like how do you feel? What do you feel?

And then so if you just tell them about

the lightness, the heaviness, that might

not be their language. But so I asked

them like, "Okay, what do you feel

here?" And it was funny. One of the

doctors, he described it this way like,

"Oh yeah, it's like I'm touching a dead

body if there's no energy."

And it's like I'm touching someone

that's alive if I feel the energy. But

great. So you do feel but you use a very

different language in your mind and yeah

to to understand that so like okay so go

with that so I didn't insist oh yeah you

must feel the energy the tingling

sensation no I didn't do that

>> wonderful so after the pastas did you

get did you get any feedback from the

doctors are they using it or how are

they using it have you have you kept up

with them

>> um so at the in as you remember at the

end of that day uh they a few of them

they say like wow this is like a very

relaxing day like I can imagine normally

they might be very very stressed um so

they're like wow we we should do this

more

and then I didn't really keep up with

all of them but I heard from them like

some of them from time to time or maybe

I saw their uh social media platform and

I saw that what they were doing and some

of them they really use

what they learned from the bus class,

not just the bus itself, you know,

because now in the access one day access

one day class, we have so many tools to

deal with many many things and those

that they use it. Yeah. Um they have

good result. So once again, I'm very

happy about that.

>> Wonderful. Ryan, thank you so much for

opening up that gateway. hospitals,

doctors. It's considered the most

difficult area to get in to get in. But

thank you for proving all of us wrong.

And I'm sure if anyone out there has

questions, ideas, or

friends in hospital, you would be the

go-to person to get inspired how to even

invite medical doctors to something cold

energy, which we all know it isn't. So,

thank you so much, Ryan, for going

there. Thank you so much for taking one

for the team. And please, please keep

going and keep being the gift that you

are using access bars in your daily

work. Thank you so much, Ryan.

>> Thank you, David. Thank you, everyone.

Heat. Heat.

Well, This was a little sneak peek on

where else Access Bar sessions are

possible. Um, and I want to take this

opportunity to say thank you to everyone

out there who is actually taking access

to all those areas um where other people

might consider it difficult. And one

person that I'm actually very very

honored uh to present to all of you

today is Vanessa Carlo who is using

access bars also in medical uh medical

area. She has

started offering this technique to her

recovery programs. Um before I get the

honor to interview Vanessa here, we have

prepared a little video of the brilliant

and amazing work she has done.

Hello everyone. I am Vanessa from

Phoenix, Arizona. I am an Access Bars

facilitator. I've been spreading the bar

since 2019 and I am really grateful to

have recently been bringing the bars to

addiction recovery centers and opening

all the possibilities and so I am very

enthused and excited to share with you

all some of the stories from them of

possibilities and change that it has

created. What else is possible and how

does it get better than this? Hello, my

name is Lely and I just wanted to check

in with you guys to let you know how

Access Bars has impacted my life in my

recovery. In the beginning of recovery,

I was very had a lot of anxiety and I

couldn't handle my stress or manage a

lot of things that were coming at me on

a daily basis. And Access Bars has

helped me to calm down. It's gotten me

to get in touch with my creative side.

It's opened up areas of my life that

have allowed me to be at peace. And I

would recommend Access Bars to anybody

that is struggling in recovery or needs

a way to relax from anxiety and stress.

>> I just wanted to say that I am usually

100% resistant to anything holistic. I

kind of always thought it was like

hippie stuff. I never believed it could

do any good. What good is having someone

touch points on my head going to do for

me? Having said that, I've had multiple

sessions of access bars done with

Vanessa, and I am a believer. It I

instantly feel a difference afterwards.

The tightness in my chest is gone and my

uh anxiety is at a very low point.

>> Hi, my name is Jason Hathaway and this

video is about my experience with this

therapy

exercise called the bars. My experience

with the bars was pretty

pretty life-changing. I'm always

annoyed, stressed. I move around a lot

and after experiencing bars, it calmed

me down and I was able to think.

>> Access bars are amazing. It changed my

brain. This recovery healing practice. I

needed a new energy, a new restart, a

new reboot. And Access Bars was my

reboot. It helped calm me. It gave me

true electric energy that I needed. Hi,

I'm Michael and today I'm going to be

sharing with you guys about something I

just recently learned about. It's called

the access bars and it's actually really

helpful in my recovery. It's been very

common. It's almost like meditation and

I really think it's something that you

should check out. I would say it's

similar to acupuncture. And if you're

into natural holistic teachings and in

recovery, it's very beneficial that you

will try it and that you enjoy my little

Torres. Thank you for giving me this

platform to share my story. For me, I

met Vanessa

and she started performing her therapy

of bars every week. And as she continued

doing it, I started to feel peace. I

started seeing the anxiety that I was

having go away. And I started feeling

better uh to the point where I was able

to get the strength to be able to

overcome

uh my dependence.

>> My name is Daniel. I just wanted to give

you guys a little rundown of my

experience of access bars. I actually

had been dealing with some depression,

anxiety. I can tell you that just the

the whole experience itself really it it

it really helped me push through a lot

of those things that were troubling me.

I don't have anxiety anymore. My

depression is gone. I feel amazing. Just

give it a chance, you know. Give it give

it a shot and uh I promise you, you

won't regret it.

>> Hi, my name is Sammy. Uh I use Access

Bars all the time. I've been using it

for about a year now. I use it to help

reduce stress. I use it for anxiety. I

use it for my depression. It's pretty

much my go-to anytime I need to ground

myself and regulate my emotions. I would

definitely recommend it for anybody

who's in recovery, especially addiction

recovery. It helps so much with the

day-to-day challenges that we have with

that. So, check it out.

And I now have the honor to talk to the

person who made these miracles possible.

Manessa, welcome to the bar celebration

day. Thank you so much for joining me

today.

>> Thank you for having me, David. It's an

honor in return.

Vanessa, seeing this, when I first saw

this video, I was I was there were so

many ways that that that surprised me

with what you did. And I know um I

received backend messages that I only

have 10 minutes with you because I could

literally go on with you forever. Um you

broke so many um areas open that, um I

would say as a European lawyer, I would

have never thought would be possible.

the the people you interviewed are

absolutely not the stereotype of people

who would actually believe in a

spiritual energy work. You using it

officially in recovery. Um how how did

you get started? How did you master

all these different um tasks to finally

go and and and run a a session on on

your patients? So, um I technically was

contracted um by by a clinic. Um and the

way that it began was actually because

of the access bars. Um I facilitated a

class back in 2021 where a participant

was an owner of uh hospice hospitals at

that time. Um and she was looking into

changing into something different. and

she calls me about maybe 6 months after

her access bars class. Um, and you know,

she calls me and she tells me, "You

remember how you told me, you know, um,

that you were open to collaborating and

to opening possibilities together." And

I said, "Yeah, you know, you ready? I I

I'm very curious what it could do in

hospice." And she's like, "Well, guess

what? I'm not doing hospice anymore.

I've changed into behavioral health."

And I'm like, "Okay, tell me more." Um,

and the energy was very inviting, just

whatever this was, because I never ever

in my life imagined being involved in

addiction recovery. And so she tells me,

well, I uh I'm doing behavioral health

and I want to open an addiction recovery

clinic and I wanted to have an

integrative, you know, holistic um

component to it. Um, and I'd love to see

what the access bars can do. And uh when

she when she mentioned it at the moment

I was living in Puerto Rico, she was in

Arizona. And I'm like, "You're in

there's so many there's so many other

people in in Arizona." And she's like,

"Nope, I feel the energy is you. It's

got to be you." And I said, "Okay. Uh

well, then let's do it." And I went

ahead and started with that clinic. Um

I'm now at my second clinic um that I

brought this to. Um and uh it just the

possibilities David uh it is more than I

could have ever imagined. Um so it

actually found me in a way

that's the best way to put it. Yeah.

>> And having you here live on this

interview your enthusiasm of course that

they only wanted you. Um we we are

streaming this worldwide especially here

you know in the old-fashioned Europe um

where a lot of people are are um

hesitant to go to areas uh in the

medical sector uh because they always

think they need studies and they need

proof and they need whatever scientific

research. Did you need any of that to

get started? Well, uh, to an extent, um,

because I've, uh, been able to at least

get, um, this practice out even into

other residential homes, um, and even

like I mentioned, I'm with my second

clinic. So, when I was, um, looking into

uh, you know, expanding into another

clinic, um, I did, you know, present it

in a way of it being a way to regulate

the nervous system, which is absolute

truth.

you know it is that and more. Um you

know and I present it in the way of

utilizing pressure points on the head.

Um I to put some context around it so

that you know people I to create

curiosity and to create intrigue I tell

people well it's uh it's very similar to

acupuncture without the needles just my

hands

you know where we're working with um uh

pressure points and that that does

exactly what it is. It it creates

curiosity. Oh, tell me more. You know,

and and so that's when um you know, I

just the chance the chance to be able to

to let someone try it and from there

they're in, you know, that's what it

does. Yeah.

>> You did offer free sessions to the

decision makers. Is that how you could

actually convince them?

>> Yes, that is that is one of the ways to

do so. And also um when I was at the

second clinic, some of the uh

participants actually had moved from the

clinic I was at previously and were

there. So uh what was helpful is during

my interview, they were passing by and

they saw me in the office and they're

like, "Vanessa," and then they tell the

owners, "You you got to bring her. She

does she brings some some some really

great stuff. You've got to bring her

here." So you know, the universe

coordinates things as such as well.

So that definitely helped.

>> You just jumped to the second burden

because you know presenting it uh in a

in a professional way and giving giving

um trial sessions to the decision

makers. That's the first step. But my

second question now is um how did you

invite the people actually receiving the

therapy? Because I I do get that they

have choice. You can't really force them

into you need to do this otherwise you

getting kicked out.

>> And what I saw and what I love about

your video Vanessa as I said before

these people are not typically uh they

don't look like typical people who are

into spiritual healing methods going

from the yoga class to yoga breathing.

They're like this street gang, you know.

>> Absolutely. Yes. How

>> how did you how did you invite them with

such a

you know holistic approach?

>> Yes.

>> Can you share some experience?

>> Um from day one to this day. Okay. From

day one um I always start out with

asking the question, what do you want to

create? Why are you here? What do you

want to create for yourself? Um and I do

prep them. And at this point, I already,

you know, I I've been doing this for a

year and a half. So, even participants

that have already been there, they prep

new participants and they say, "Oh, get

ready. This is different." Um, and

that's pretty much how I've presented

it. I I

>> Vanessa has

>> I think her her video is frozen now.

Let's see if she comes back. Um,

while we are waiting for Vanessa to come

back, um, can someone let me know, are

these videos available somewhere? I

mean, Vanessa's video, Vanessa's story

with all the people she interviews. If

anybody would like to use this, um,

where are these videos available? On

YouTube. Thank you so much. I have an

amazing

backend team. um it's on the bars in

business YouTube channel and I think if

you have signed up for um notifications

to be part of this event today um we

will send out a follow-up email with

recordings where we'll add where you can

find all these incredible beautiful um

videos that we put together. And I just

saw that Vanessa obviously dropped. She

lost her connection. Oh, here she is.

She is back.

Let's bring her back on and then let's

continue. She literally dropped out in

the most exciting moment. You know how

to make people curious.

Brilliant. Brilliant move. And we would

have, no, she's gone. Exactly where the

most important information was coming.

It's just

>> it's a reflection of the energy. All the

energy, all the excitement. And I love

it.

>> So we we could hear you until you said

well you started with the question and

>> yes. Yes.

>> From the question session.

>> Yes. So then from uh from there I uh I

just asked them you know what what do

you want to create? And and I was going

with the statistics in recovery you know

I remind them um you know doing the same

thing over and over again. You already

know what that's going to create. So how

about trying something different? And

that's that's where, you know, they

really open up and they're like, you

know what? Yeah, I've been doing this.

I've I've been this is my second program

or this is my third program. And so I

tell them, you know, let's let's explore

um uh something different. Let's uh

let's see what what that can create. Um

and from there, it just uh they they

really um open up. And really uh to be

completely honest as well, David, I have

to also practice the same tools within

myself. I have to ask questions. What

energy do I need to be? How does it need

to be delivered? What does this group

require? What does this individual

require? And you know, from there, um,

it it moves the energy and it opens

things up. And, um, and it it surprises

me just as much as you, David, when I

have someone covered in tattoos, big

muscles, nice and tough, really, really

macho, uh, looking at me and saying,

"Let's do this. Let's try it." And then

seeing them, you know, come off of the

massage table and just looking

completely uh, refreshed and rejuvenated

and and in a completely different space.

>> Beautiful. So, how long do you do the

sessions when you're when you're doing

it in this recovery program? Is it 1

hour or is it less?

>> So, it is um an hour including the

exchange. So, they each get 30 minutes

each is typically what we're able to do.

And we do them every other Friday. Um we

call them holistic Friday. So, we rotate

with different modalities. Um but the

access bars is something they get super

excited for. Um, and it it always amazes

me and it's one of the coolest things to

see, David, to see all of the chairs

lined up and to see all of these tough

individuals just engaging in this and

seeing them just in this beautiful space

um of empowerment and relief and and

receiving and it's just it's it's been

an honor. It's been a complete honor to

be a part of it

>> and it's an honor for us because another

thing that I want to share with our

audience and our guests today is that um

you didn't reach out hey people from

Basin Business I have this idea can you

do this for me. I mean we found out

about you after you have actually

implemented it.

>> So you just you you just did it with all

the resources you you you had available.

Um, I know there are hundreds of people

out there who have similar ideas and the

the the question we get asked most is,

"Oh god, I have this amazing idea. How

do I start?" Can I take that opportunity

to ask you if someone asked you the

question, how should I start? What would

you advise? How would you advise people

to to the idea

into actually doing it?

>> Yes. Well, um the greatest way that I

can answer that, David, um in complete

honesty is to ask yourself the question.

The person needs to ask themselves, how

do I need to present this? Um how do I

need to show up? What does this

particular clinic, what does this

particular organization need to hear?

How does it need to be delivered? Um

because when you ask the question

yourself, as as many participants and

individuals on this call know,

everything starts with the question. And

so when you utilize the question

yourself, then it starts opening, you

know, that that awareness and that

energy because every clinic is

different. Every owner is different. And

so every single person is going to

require um something different. Uh, some

people may need a presentation. Some

people may need a taster. Some people

may need you to just, you know, with

your simple enthusiasm, they're like,

"Whatever that is, let's try it." You

know, so it's you just genuinely got to

ask so that uh you can channel the

energy of what's required.

>> Wonderful. And I know there's also a

podcast interview that was done with

you. Um, you're you're our star now.

Last question. I know I'm getting

messages from the back end team that I'm

we're over time, but hey, I have you

here live now. Um

um if anybody would require some

assistance and help uh do you did you

actually do you offer sessions? Do you

help other people getting started in

this area? Is that an something you

already explored? Can people reach out?

>> Absolutely. Um I'm currently helping. A

shout out to Yoli in Pennsylvania. she

reached out to me after watching uh one

of the podcasts. Um and then I have

someone that I touched base this week

actually in New Mexico um that that

reached out to me. And so I'm I I tell

them, you know, whatever way I can be

here, whatever um way I can contribute

um in order to be able to spread this.

Um I obviously would love to see this

grow into lots of clinics all over the

United States, all over the world. Uh

because these individuals, David, it's

really important that I end with this.

These individuals are actually highly

gifted, which is why they fall into

addiction. No one they they they didn't

have anyone guiding them on their

wrongness actually being a strongness,

them actually being very gifted. And so

when they finally come to that awareness

and they finally step into that, all the

possibilities start opening for them. So

think of what is possible if we can get

to more people. So yes, I am definitely

here to contribute.

Thank you so much and thank you for

being the gift for all these people um

reaching out and requiring the magic and

the possibility of nex sessions. Vanessa

for going. Thank you so much. Bye bye.

>> Bye everybody.

>> So and I I hope that Katarina now jumps

on here in the excitement of

interviewing Vanessa. I I got lost. What

What do we have next? Katherina what

>> well we're not we're moving into this

new area so and it's not totally new but

what we're moving into is looking a

little bit how can you use bars in times

of turmoil conflict trauma when really

you're contracting you don't know how to

deal with the world and a lot of things

are happening around you and we wanted

to start by first show this video about

actually sleeping how bars can help you

sleep because that that's one of the

first things you lose when you get

really really worried worried and you

kind of get caught up in the fear. And

then right after that, we wanted to show

all of you an interview um about I don't

know if you remember, but around New

Year's there was a big fire in

Switzerland and there was a lot of young

people that died in a nightclub and a

few of our team went there and ran bars

just a few days after. So Laura, one of

our co-creators, have interviewed them.

So, we wanted to show you those two

sides of that and then we're going to

dive even deeper into this after.

>> Yeah, I remember the sleep. I think this

is why I found bars before like 11 years

ago when I had my first bar session. I

so struggled with um being able to fall

asleep waking up at night and I remember

my whole you know when I as an

international lawyer have these big

projects um and these big closing coming

up and I already knew 3 4 days before

that I would be just so um excited,

nervous, concerned that I couldn't

sleep. Well, thanks God I found access

bars because all of that has changed.

Um, and I think we are ready now for

access bars for sleep, an interview with

Dr. Terry Hope, um, who did some

research on sleep.

One of the biggest problems in society

today is lack of sleep.

This isn't necessarily relating to

stress, but also relates to people who

are professionals, who have jobs that

take them outside the normal regular

sleeping hours, like doctors, nurses,

people who travel a lot, like pilots,

executives, and flight attendants. They

all have disregulated sleep patterns

because of the hours that their job that

keeps them from having a normal sleep

pattern. One of the challenges with

having lack of sleep or disregulated

sleep patterns is it changes people's

capacity for focus, concentration,

memory, agility,

and changes behavioral patterns.

Professionals who have chronic sleep

changes often have a hard time relaxing

and falling asleep or staying asleep.

And what that does is it exacerbates the

challenges in actually sleeping in and

of itself. The less restful sleep they

get, the more challenged they become to

be able to get that deep and

regenerative sleep. And this over time

creates exhaustion. What's interesting

is that the professionals who require

this would never actually ask for

something to change their sleep

patterns.

they keep going no matter what. One of

the ways for people to naturally and

rapidly recover and change disregulated

sleep and actually have deep and

uninterrupted sleep is with access bars.

I've been researching access bars for

over 12 years. And one of the things

that we found is that access bars

creates deep relaxation not only in the

body but calms the mind. And people

experience deep sleep after an access

bar session or if they use it after they

have had a long flight or a long shift,

it actually reregulates them even in a

session as short as 45 minutes to an

hour and they can actually return to

normal functioning as if they had 8

hours sleep. And an access spar session

is done with a practitioner who lightly

touches, places on the head, and it

allows the body to relax, the mind to be

calm, and then people can actually

experience regulation of their body

again and their brain, which be

indicative of people having deep sleep.

We've seen this in changes in brain wave

patterns neurologically where the body

calms down, the brain wave patterns slow

and there's this deep level of

regeneration that occurs in this

specific signature that is unique to

access bars which includes activation at

one hertz which is indicative of deep

sleep and regeneration. Organizations

and individuals who have added access

bars to their well-being programs have

reported faster recovery and more ease

with having sleep

and being able to perform their daily

tasks not only in their job but in their

private life. I often work 20our days

doing research and I added access bars

as a way of being able to recover faster

from long nights and being able to

concentrate better and I highly

recommend it.

So many of you will remember the New

Year's Eve tragedy in Switzerland at the

start of this year where 41 people died

and 116 others were injured at a as a

fire tore through the accredited bar at

a Swiss ski resort in the town of Kuran,

Montana.

Many of these um people were teenagers

and young adults gathered to celebrate

and welcome in the new year.

So I'm joined by Angelique Bernard and

Theresa Dodova who went there actually

to this town within a week of all this

happening to run bars on the people who

were affected by this um awful tragedy

as a way um to contribute some sort of

trauma relief. Um, Angelique, first of

all, can you tell us what happened

directly after

this event um and the circumstances that

led you to actually end up with being

there?

>> Yeah, when I heard about this accident,

I was really uh shocked and impacted by

by what's happening. It's uh 1 hour 30

from my house and um and I was really

asking what contribution can I be uh to

those people and asking some friends

friends of mine uh would you like to

would you like helping to send

contribution energetic contribution to

those people um to help the families the

people who used to have PTSD

um etc people who have been injured and

so after asking some questions um

something came to my universe and okay

what if you can be more than just an

energetic contribution right now what if

you can just go physically there and

contribute to those people with the

tools you know that can contribute to

them which is access bars and um and so

I was sending a a message to a client of

mine saying hey I know you have some

family there. Uh, and I would love to be

able to contribute to them. Uh, whoever

would like to receive bars after this

accident. Do you know anyone who would

like to receive bars and I can come for

free and contribute to them? And he

said, "Oh, you know what? It's a really

great idea. Um, let me organize that. I

will ask anyone who would like to

receive bars." He knows a lot of people

in common. And uh, he organized that. He

say, "Oh, maybe if you come with a

friend of you, it would be better. we

can do run bars to even more people. He

said I think we should maybe come three

days to run as much as we can and so

uh I found like I contacted Terza and uh

she said right yes right away uh she

didn't know really what's happening she

was in holiday before but she said okay

yeah let's I'll go with you. So I'm

really grateful for you Terza. I would

like to tell you again for coming with

me and running bars uh with to those

people during those days just after the

accident. It was really intense also. So

um yeah. Wow. So you both arrive. Um

Theresa, perhaps you can tell us a

little bit about what happened when you

arrived, you know, and people that you

ran bars on and and and tell us a little

bit about how that went.

So actually we were thanks to

Angelique's client you know we were well

taken in care of and uh he was

connecting us with the different people

and even the people that uh we ran bars

on they were um you know they were

willing to tell other people. So in

total we actually ran bars on 20 people.

We had 20 sessions and uh people of

various ages, sometimes teenagers or

young adults, you know, even sometimes

whole families, their mothers or fathers

and uh sometimes also people, you know,

that were connected to the event uh in

different ways. some people who lost

their friends, some people who were in

leadership positions, some people you

know who needed to represent or who were

at the site of the accident while it was

happening actually. So really people who

were affected connected to the event and

also after the event you know who had to

deal with a lot of things

>> in different ways. Um yeah and you know

we were there the two of us with

Angelique also supporting each other

with all the other tools that we have

with access you know and running each

other's bars as well. So it was a truly

a beautiful contribution.

>> Wow. Well we all know that bars is a

great contribution for you know towards

PTSD and so um Angelie what did you

notice when you were running bars? What

sort of um I mean did you do you have

any feedback that you can give us? How

how was it received as you were doing

this with them?

>> It was really interesting and really

different. I'm riding bars for 10 years

now and uh it was the first time I was

riding bars to people after a big trauma

like and uh it was

it was really intense and uh it was a

before and an after the change was um

yeah really big and you can see that

like even the I remember two people who

used to be on site during the accident

so they saw all the everything all the

people who used to be figurally burnt

etc. So those people I could see how

they used to be

um the stress that they have that was

really in their body and during all the

sessions their gut was like moving so

strongly. Uh it was a big uh release of

pain and stress you know from from their

body and their body was loud. So even

them they say that was like oh my baby

was so noisy and things was moving so

much in my solar plexus and after the

session they say wow like it it's

amazing it changed so much I was so

stressed I have more clarity now uh

everything is less intense and uh and

they could sleep uh better after that

because they couldn't sleep for four or

five days during after this event. So,

um, everything was really intense and

the the shift was was pretty huge before

and after the session.

>> Wow. Gosh. Um, I can't imagine. And what

about you, Theresa? Did was there

anything that you noticed? Um, I mean,

how was that for you and the people that

you were running both on

>> also? Very, very different experience,

of course. And just what Angelique was

saying, plus you could also see, you

know, some people came with hands that

were shaking and during the session, for

example, they could fall asleep, they

could let go, you know, and they were

telling us how much calmer they feel,

how much less thinking, constant

thinking and noise there is in their

heads. Or if we go went out in the

evening and we saw these people maybe in

the you know in the town then they would

tell us again that they feel much calmer

or that it was actually the first time

that they were laughing since the event

you know and um it was so received uh so

well received people were so grateful

and some people that did not make it to

our sessions they said for example I

can't but you You know what this

actually gave me the idea because I have

some tools as well. There were some

practitioners of other modalities that

were like okay now I am going to offer

something. So it contributed even even

more in these very unexpected ways and

um yeah.

>> Wow that's amazing. Thank you so much

ladies. Gosh, what an incredible gift um

you were just to be there for for uh for

for these people and so quickly after

this, you know, this happened and you

know, it's a real testimony to to the

bars and how it can help in any

situation, especially something like

this as well. So, thank you so much for

being here, for sharing that experience

for you and you know, and the feedback

that was for them. Um, thank you so

much.

>> Thank you, Laura. Thank you, Angelique.

Okay, thank you everyone.

We're jumping in. So, we're actually

going to continue into an area where we

have worked quite a lot, which is to

bring bars to schools. And for this

section, since we're looking more into a

bit more intense areas, we are going to

look at what it is like to bring bars to

a military school in India. And India,

it's an amazing activity in India,

especially when it comes to schools. So,

we brought access bars to so many

different schools in India already. And

this is just one example. So, if you're

Indian and you've been bringing bars out

to different schools, thank you. It's

truly amazing the capacity you have to

get this into the all kinds of different

sizes of schools and ages. And this

particular school is a military school.

and we're gonna um join Kumal and we're

gonna see what she has to tell us about

that.

So, how do you introduce a wellness

modality to a male only military school?

That's what we're going to explore with

our next guest, Kumal. and um she used

like a mix of family legacy and social

media and then partnered with um she's

probably going to correct me Rashtriaya

Military School to run bars on 250

students there. And today we're going to

explore what impact that had and also

how she's trying to make Access Bars a

daily self-care

staple for this academy. So, so how did

it all start? I heard you were sharing

your work on social media and actually

got contacted to come to this school. Do

you want to tell us about that?

>> Yes. I u firstly thank you so much for

the introduction. I got so much

information when you said that together.

Yeah. So, I uh got reached out by a

distant family friend who had been

seeing our work and she her son studies

in that school. So I wonder if something

pulled her because her kids studies

there and she later told me that she as

a parent was very distressed seeing um

because they do they call it under the

garb of ragging. There's a lot of like

physical stuff that the younger kids

have to you know do because they're also

getting trained to join the army. Yeah.

So she her heart went out and she was

contemplating whether she should even

send her son or not. But I I wonder what

she saw when we were running bars in the

other schools and she was like, you

know, I please and she made it so like

after that it was she organized

everything. I didn't even have to go get

a meeting before. She was literally just

like you take a train and just come and

we have your stay, we have everything

and I didn't have to move a finger. And

I think that is how easy entering

schools can also be.

yet totally.

>> Well, so if you look at um the kind of

like the nurturing masculine

perspective, so in this male only

environment, how did you introduce the

idea to these boys of running each

other's bars in a way that you know was

natural and empowered, not so soft and

out of place for the context?

>> Yes. Um I would like to say the youth

manual. We used the youth manual for

this class and the diagrams there were

amazing because when they saw those kids

with the bars points they were there was

an instant curiosity and I also realized

all the kids in the youth manual are of

different um races and ethnicities and

which was very like I could see that

creating a lot cuz they were like what

the hell are we doing?

And but then having said that there were

moments where you know they were being

very harsh or like running bars in a

very like quote unquote I would say

masculine or you know just wanting to

shrug the other person and then but I

think me and my co-f facilitator for

this event she's a bars practitioner

called Chitra Satya um this wouldn't

have been possible without her we both

literally at one point had to be the

energy of like hey no nurturance like

we're doing this with a very and we I

saw the energy in the flip wherein it

was like no you nurture this person for

this one hour and then we don't care

what you do but for these this two hours

you you have to take care of this person

who's on your lap and once we were being

that it percolated seamlessly and then

the kids were like okay you know so I

saw that happen as well which was very

interesting

>> like the shift in the room

>> yes it was literally like we were like

no this is not this is not how you run

bars you know and this is not the energy

of this event it's very different. So

yeah and that that just then translated

and um um yeah I mean there were people

who were not interested there were kids

who were playing and having fun but then

there were I could see kids deeply

receiving as well and after the event

there's a girl who came to me and she

was like uh you know we live in these

dormitories and I can't sleep at night

and but when I go home I sleep so well

and then I just told her okay just do

your implants at night this point that

we taught you and yeah yeah so just the

fact that they could come up and tell us

that says something about this.

>> What did you see like what kind of

effects did you see just watching the

group and maybe individuals like what

what did you notice?

Oh yeah. So much. I noticed that firstly

they were not happy in being in this

particular schools mostly most of them

because they were like you know we asked

them what is stressful to you and they

were like you know just being here can

get very stressful and I was like oh I

never saw that like you know it is um

and then I was like okay cool. So then

we also realized that they were u like

when the energy changed and then I

noticed that we didn't really have to

teach them how to nurture another person

like there's so much that we already

know about nurturance and you know once

they were doing that then they were like

okay are we doing it correct or you know

and and then some kids were falling

asleep and we're like no it's all fine

and um I also know since we've been

talking about chaos so much I don't try

to control it a lot I just I know

consciousness has my back. So, I'm like,

"Okay, let's just have fun and do this

and and we'll see what happens."

>> Well, when you say um we didn't have to

teach them how to nurture, do you mean

that that's something they innately

know? Is that what you mean?

>> Yeah.

>> Like we just know it.

>> Yeah. I get that. We know it. Like when

they we know we know that we have that

and we and these and and that when we

relax into that that relaxes them. so

much and because we were after the event

we were taking testimonials and two of

them were coming together and you know

talking about it and um and then I was

like okay and then and a kid gave us

this whole speech on stress and I'm like

okay they they already know what they

already know so much and what we have to

just go is just empower them with what

they know it was like this beautifully

like you know the space of okay they

know and we don't really have to do much

>> yeah less less like talking and more

actually action into well it sounds

weird but action into being instead of

doing.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Um so you're I think I think if I

understood it correctly your both your

dad and your brother has been to this

particular school and so how did they

react to you going there or a similar

school? Yeah, my dad's with my dad is an

alumini and my brother is in the army

but I actually closely saw his training

and I when I saw it I was just

pockinping myself and like which is a

clearing like using the access tools and

I was like okay what will it take to

really enter these places and you know

how how easier can it be because there

were cases of like uh kids who have left

the academy or you know have taken their

own lives etc like a lot of that comes

out so Um my both my I think my parents

and my brother know that this isn't the

easy life like they know so they were

pretty okay like they were pretty like

um happy about it in a way cuz I have

run their bars every now and then and

though they they're not like very they

don't come to me and ask to get their

bars run but they I think what I'd

learned is the energy speaks louder than

the words here because even if they

don't know exactly what I'm doing but

energetically something's getting

created which is uh very you can't deny

that.

>> Yeah, it's interesting. I I did an

interview before um from Israel where

she said a very similar thing where she

said like the bars kind of just showed

people that they, you know, this was

what they required. It wasn't so much

about explaining or talking about it.

It's like the the energy of what they

were, you know, facilitating just pulled

people in. Now you're looking at

creating this as a like a daily a more

you know um regular practice at the

school. Uh how are you doing that and

how is it going?

>> Yes. So firstly there were no plans but

once we ended the kids just literally

hogged us and they were like when are

you coming next we need a sleeping day

and

I was like okay and there was like this

loud. So now we're just u we also want

to uh play with pricing it a little bit

for the next time and you know see what

how school responds to us coming in and

you know pricing it per student. So

we're just working on that. I'm also and

thankfully both the admin and the

principal here are pretty open. So I'm

just going to have a conversation and

we're in the we're in move in in that

moving pieces period wherein we're just

seeing how do we make it work for them

but also make it work for our time the

travel the u the everything. Um so yeah

that's in progress and uh how I'm

planning it is to have one followup

every year because what they told me is

during uh September August there isn't a

lot of academic stress that the school

goes through so there's some leeway time

that the kids have. So they recommend

that time period when we can do it. So

yeah that's still a conversation in

progress with the school at the moment.

Do do you do you also plan to like teach

them the bars points so that they

continue running it even when you're not

there?

>> Yes. So we did teach them the points

this time but what I did see is that

they remember barely like one or two

after on Yeah. You know even though

everybody got a head chart and

everything so yeah follow-ups will make

them more um clear about where the

points are and and I'm curious to see

what happens then. Yeah.

Yeah. How do you see like if you tap

into kind of like the future, if this

was actually a part of the military, if

if this was something that was there

regularly, how do you think that would

change

the school and the you know the lives

for the kids too?

>> Yeah. Um I just want to say once I was

having a conversation with another

colleague of ours who's Monica Gileiam

about this and she said something very

interesting. She said that you know you

can tell them that they'll become better

soldiers. And I saw that as such a

curious thing because people think that

if bars enters they'll relax and they

won't do anything or there'll be no

hierarchy or whatever. But when she said

that I was like yeah that is the energy.

they will become better soldiers cuz

I've seen my brother grow up and I know

when what he des like he wanted to

always join the army so I could see what

he gets from the institution also but

then I can still see him get stressed

also so I'm like okay how do we make

this work for you so I guess we'd have

more nurturing kinder people in the army

as well and I I think that is very

possible like

>> but there is such a good point in in

Monica as our comment colleague actually

said because stress does not lead you to

good decisions or allow you to actually

act instantly on things that is required

or choose you know strategically for the

future. And when you have the clarity

that you actually get when you're not

stressed, when you've had your bars run,

when you actually have that space, that

will yeah create better soldiers or and

and also um possibly soldiers that are

actually happier, which would also

contribute. Yeah. So um are the um are

there any other projects that you are

currently looking at based on this one?

Like did this inspire you to create

something more? Yeah, I think what we're

looking at now, we've done two schools

as of now and what we're seeing is no

matter what whoever says the feedback

from the students is very has been very

gratifying for us and we are looking at

um going through because what I'm also

realizing if we know somebody from the

school administration it becomes easier

to enter the schools you know rather

than sending them emails or whatever I I

get that engagement. So I'm really

looking at this lady herself is very

excited about where she can take us

next. So I'm like, okay, we're just like

riding on what they know and just going

along. So uh yes, yeah, looking at uh

connecting, engaging more with people

and then using them to enter schools

would be what I say. Yeah,

>> I love that. Like finding an ambassador

for this and allowing that ambassador to

like open the doors and get this amazing

modality in. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Thank you so much. And I I can

just see in front of me this room full

of So it's boys and girls, am I correct?

Not just boys, it's both genders. Oh

>> yeah. Yeah. Now we're having more women

in the army as well.

>> So it's a school for like both boys and

girls getting their bars run. That

sounds so amazing. Thank you so much for

coming on and telling us and then

looking into the future what else is

possible. Thank you.

>> Thank you, Katie. Thank you for this.

Yeah.

Thank you for this beautiful interview.

BS in military schools. Um what a great

idea. Um, next topic we would like to

dive into and explore is the science

behind excess bars because there is

science. There are many people um out

there in the world who were curious

enough um to go wait a minute how does

an access bar session actually work in

the brain in the body? What does it do?

Um, Access Consciousness itself never

did any

scientific research, deep research. The

founders of Access Consciousness and we

will interview them later on. They

always says why do you need proof if

this is something um you get to choose.

So you like it or you don't. And if you

don't like it, well then find another

modality that gives you that sense of

relaxation. And we know especially when

talking to the corporate world um to

medical areas to military it can be

helpful to have some scientific research

available. So we tapped into some of

this. We invited uh Dr. Aelves Vesta and

Mia Deuca to do some research on how uh

access works. And in our next video, you

will explore some of the science behind

excess bars.

>> We invited people and we said just bring

someone that can give you bars and then

we take measurements before bars and

after bars. We are bridging the gap

between science and evidence and

research. So, we're actually measuring

vital signs like blood pressure, pulse

rate, breathing rate, and what's called

heartb brain coherence. Some people were

also very high in coherence. It was

absolutely astonishing.

I'm Dr. Astred. I'm from the

Netherlands. I work for almost 30 years

as integrative medicine doctor and I am

with Axis from 2018. I'm Mia Tuca. I am

from West Palm Beach, Florida. I have

been in Access Consciousness since I was

6 years old. I was actually the first

child facilitator in all of Access

Consciousness. So that means I have

about 20 years of experience in this. I

just got my bachelor's in biology and

I'm now living my absolute dream

researching the access bars.

Axis bars is about 32 points on the head

that you can touch and if you touch them

then you can get the brain in about a

delta state so that people can recover

from anything that they have that they

can release anything that they are not

happy with and that's also what you can

see on the heart math device that people

relax more and that they come in a high

coherence state.

The measurements we took was pulse and

heart, the blood pressure and the breath

per minute and the heart mass before and

then directly after bars. We did that

again. And what happens is you're

measuring the heart rate variability,

the milliseconds in between your

heartbeats. When you're stressed out,

when you are holding on to different

points of views or picking up

energetically

everything that's going on around you,

your heart rate variability will kind of

go out of whack, a little bit irregular.

The number will lower, meaning your

heart rate is faster. So you measure the

heart rate and also the heart

electricity and the brain electricity

working together or not. So and then the

device is going to give that a number.

Is it working together? Then the number

is high. Is it not working together then

the number is low. So it translates to a

number. The number is not telling a

story but it's for the comparison

compared to before and after.

So you can say that with pulse and with

pressure, blood pressure and with

breathing about 3/4 of the population

that we tested we are going better and

with the heart brain coherence it was

about I think 60% going better and that

happens after the bars because we're

releasing the electromagnetic charge

associated with different points of

views that are now sticking you in your

life and in your body and creating

stress creating disees

in your life.

And the beauty was also what we

discovered is that uh the brain

coherence go up every day that we did

the foundation class for everyone.

Hello. And I been as we're listening to

this, I actually been running my piece

called my gratitude bars. And this is

one of the most amazing parts about

bars. Yes, you can get a whole session.

You can really like get, you know, a 30

minutes, one hour session and you can in

times of great change or things going on

literally just find the points for calm

gratitude and just like

so we're actually going to jump into

something about that. Who are you gonna

talk to David? Well, next topic uh is an

area where where getting a bar session

is an incredible relief. We're talking

about um getting your bars run when the

whole country is in panic. We have um a

bar facilitator, Marco Des who he's

Italian and he happened to be in

Venezuela at the beginning of the year

and as you probably have heard in the

news um Kagas was bombed uh January 3rd

of 2026 because President Donald Trump

took out Maduro. Um you can imagine what

is going on for the people who live

there. Marco was there um and Marco

immediately had the sense of okay let's

do something to calm everyone down to be

that contribution that is required when

panic takes over and I remember I myself

was in me last year in September Kakas

an amazing uh beautiful city people very

curious very creative but yes I'm living

in a very very difficult political

situations for over 17 years. Um so what

Marco discovered and I'm going to

interview him very soon here. Um how

beautiful it can be if you have actually

no point of view. You know when one

country attacks another. Uh there's a

lot of um taking position uh going on in

society. Um, what Marco created was a

space to be with no need of having an

opinion, with no need of taking a

certain side, just the energy of, well,

what if we could just relax and not

worry about anything for 30 to 45

minutes.

>> And that is actually one of the most

amazing parts about bars is that you can

find the space to know what's true for

you. And hello, Marco. I'm gonna jump

out so you can

>> And here he is, Marco. Thank you,

Katarina. And welcome, Marco, our uh

brave, let's say, well, war hero. Um I

can imagine that being in Kadakas,

Venezuela during that difficult um

stressful situation. Um

was it difficult? How was it for you?

How did you experience that that night

of of the attack? And how did the whole

idea come up with organizing a bar

session for everybody who was stressed?

>> Well, that was actually my very first

time experiencing a bombing and the

apartment I rent was fairly close for

the with the very first point of

bombing. So it was like the the window

shaking

uh these sounds that you know what they

are and sometime you don't believe it.

So I did the things that only purely a

European will do to just lay down on the

rooftop and check.

Of course I as question and it was was

light. So I could see the fuming

and um it was a very interesting

situation to me cuz when you have tools

you know that you can ask a question

when you have tools and also you're not

by yourself because there's a lot of

people in the world and especially in

Venezuela using these tools using bars.

So having a community an online

community of people there to even like

just text and being on the chat that hey

what's going on what's happening because

the most frightening part actually to be

honest is for 4 hours we didn't actually