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Anime Piracy Is Back... Crunchyroll Made It WORSE

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Just look at this number for a second.

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5.7 trillion yen. That is the official

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staggering estimate that Japan's

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Ministry of Economy, Trade, and Industry

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just dropped on the world. That is how

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much money they claim online piracy is

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bleeding away from Japanese digital

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media. But here is the head-scratching

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paradox. Anime, it has never been more

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profitable. The deeper question, the

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investigative question that we are

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answering today is, why has anime piracy

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successfully survived every single

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iteration of the legal market?

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Have to realize that this entire global

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empire wasn't started by high-tech

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hackers or internet syndicates. It was

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built by hand, by a group of fans in the

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1970s using postage stamps and physical

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cassettes. The first stage of the

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machine was the tape culture. See,

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Japanese animators had actually been

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appearing on Western television for

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decades, but not usually [music] as

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anime in the way we understand it now.

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The executives would take these shows

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[music] and completely rename them. They

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would then dub them, heavily edit them,

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completely rework them,

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>> Defender of the universe.

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A mighty robot

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Voltron.

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>> and then sold them as standard

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children's cartoons. Astro Boy, Speed

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Racer, Battle of the Planets, Voltron.

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[music]

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Now, these were the entry points and

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sure, they were great, but they weren't

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exactly a clean window into Japanese

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culture. They were more like a generic

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brand version of your favorite cereal.

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But the real fan distribution story,

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that begins in the 1970s. [music]

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In 1977, a group of fans helped create

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the Cartoon Fantasy Organization, often

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described as America's first official

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anime club. Fans would screen rare

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Japanese animation, physically record

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the shows, copy the cassettes, and share

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them with other enthusiasts. Now, to be

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clear, this was not piracy in the modern

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lazy click on a, you know, a dodgy

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streaming site sense. It was a much

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slower, smaller, and more physical way

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of handling it. And when I say physical,

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[music] I mean actual physical. No app,

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no search bar, no link. You know, people

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worked with what we call a SASE, meaning

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a self-addressed stamped envelope. You

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would mail blank tapes [music] to

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someone that you probably found through

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a fan site, club list, or convention

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contact, and then [music] you waited. I

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read stories from people who would say,

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"I mailed three blank Maxell tapes and

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return postage to some guy in Ohio. I

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just had to hope that he didn't keep

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them." Three months later, the package

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came back with Sailor Moon episodes on

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[music] it. That was the invisible deal.

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Trust a stranger, you could potentially

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lose a few tapes, or suddenly get access

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to the show that your country had

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[music] never bothered to sell to you.

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The theme was hope and prayer, but it

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was still unauthorized copying. And this

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is where we hit the first massive,

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deeply uncomfortable realization for the

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industry. Researchers who studied this

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exact era of fan distribution between

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the 1976 [music]

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and 1993 argue something that wild. They

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say that this copyright infringement

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actually helps create the massive global

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demand that later made licensed anime

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commercially [music]

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viable in the West.

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>> and what we're going to be showing here

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are the Dirty Pair Quintal style dubs.

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>> How many of you have seen

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>> Quintal dub?

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>> Ooh.

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>> Well, name them and say who's seen what.

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>> Okay.

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>> In plain blunt English, the fans were

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building the entire market before the

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multi-billion-dollar companies even

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realized that there was actually a

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market to exploit.

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>> [music]

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>> Anime piracy did not begin because

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people refused to pay. It began because

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people were desperately trying to access

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something that the market was completely

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failing to give them. At first, a lot of

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these tapes were completely raw. No

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subtitles, no dub, just a raw Japanese

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audio and a room full of fans trying to

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work out what the hell was going on from

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the context, the vibes, and the one guy

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in the corner who knew just enough

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Japanese to become a temporary priest

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for the evening. Then came the

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translation notes. See, before burning

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subtitles became normal, fans used

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printed scripts or paper booklets. You

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would watch the tape and you literally

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read along.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Which sounds pretty insane now. Today,

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people act like Western civilization is

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collapsing if Netflix forgets where they

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paused an episode for 12 seconds. I

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mean, seriously, awesome liquor for the

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true anime OG fans. I salute you guys.

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Back then, this kind of madness was

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standard fandom labor. If you wanted the

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culture badly enough, you accepted the

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total inconvenience as baseline entry

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fee. Eventually, fan subbing became the

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solution. Fans would translate the

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episodes, meticulously time the

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subtitles, burn those translation tracks

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directly onto physical copies of VHS

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tapes.

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>> was that you had to acquire

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>> acquire an expensive piece of hardware

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called a genlock in [music] order to

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synchronize the video signals from the

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Japanese laser disc with the anime on it

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and your subtitles before recording it

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out to a VHS tape.

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>> The equipment was incredibly expensive,

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the work was brutally slow, and the

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quality was often rough.

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>> It was not in the movie theaters, it was

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not in the television, but here we had

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we with Arctic Animation producing

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subtitling, bringing the stuff from

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Japan, subtitling it so that we could

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actually understand what they're talking

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about.

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>> But the result, it was powerful. Anime

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could now travel across borders with its

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meaning and soul fully attached. And

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that completely changed the game.

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Suddenly, a fan in America, Britain,

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[music] Brazil could watch a piece of

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media that they had never been

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officially released in their country and

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actually understand it.

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>> [music]

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>> And this is exactly what the old school

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fansub ethic came from.

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A strict community code. You do not

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charge beyond costs. You do not profit.

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And you stop distributing the exact

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second that a show gets officially

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licensed. Now, [music] did everyone

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follow that moral code perfectly? Of

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course not. People are people. Give them

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a moral code or, you know, a dual deck

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VCR and somebody is eventually just

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going to break ranks.

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But at the time, that code mattered.

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>> [music]

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>> It mattered because it shows how these

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fans understood what they were doing and

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why. Many of them didn't think of

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themselves as digital pirates. They

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thought of themselves as evangelists.

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And honestly, there's really a lot of

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truth to that.

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>> [music]

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>> Yes, they were copying shows illegally,

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but they were also single-handedly

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spreading a culture to corners of the

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globe where official legal markets had

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barely even bothered to show up. And

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that is why this history is so

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incredibly messy. If it's not Robin Hood

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with subtitles, but it's also not pure

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theft. Some might call it fan culture

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that was growing within a total

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commercial vacuum.

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But as the 1980s bled into the 1990s,

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this quiet community of underground

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evangelists would hit a massive physical

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wall. Because sharing a tape with 10

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people in your local university club is

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one thing,

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but what happens when the community

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scales up to thousands of people across

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[music] entire continents, and physical

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degradation of the magnetic tape start

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destroying the footage entirely?

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The system developed a completely

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rotten, glitchy mechanism just to

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survive the physical limits of the

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analog [music] world. By the time we hit

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the 1980s and 1990s, anime club became

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the real underground distribution

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network. Tapes moved through

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conventions, university clubs, postal

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swaps, classified lists, fan

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newsletters, and personal contacts. A

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fan would get a copy, make five more,

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send them out into the world, and then

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some of those copies would then be

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copied again. And look, each generation

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just made the next copy much worse.

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>> The only option was to acquire these fan

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subbed VHS tapes from a fan sub group,

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or copy a tape from someone else who had

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a fan subbed version. The issue was that

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every time a VHS tape is re-recorded,

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the quality degrades a little.

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>> By the time you've got to the fifth

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iteration, the characters on screen look

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like they were being viewed through a

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haunted toaster. And sometimes you had

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to fight the VCR itself. The tracking

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button

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was basically your life. Someone on

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Reddit said it best.

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>> I had a copy of Akira so worn down that

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I had to sit next to the VCR and keep

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tapping the tracking just to stop the

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picture rolling.

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>> One bad copy after another, and the

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screen looks like it was melting. The

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struggle was real, people. [music] But

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no one cared, because fuzzy, unreadable

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anime was still infinitely better than

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no anime at all. And look, if you were

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in the UK in the 1990s, the whole thing

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was even more ridiculous. You could stay

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up until stupid o'clock in the morning,

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flipping through late-night television

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channels, desperately desperately hoping

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to catch an anime by complete accident.

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Half the time you landed on babe

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station.

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>> [music]

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>> Once in a while I would get lucky and

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catch Akira or Fist of the North Star at

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2:00 a.m.

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And if the broadcast gods felt

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especially nice to me that day, I would

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land on Legend of the Overfiend. I'm

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talking tentacles, gore, deep sweet

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sweet psychological childhood trauma. I

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have watched Legend of the Overfiend

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more times than I would ever admit in

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front of my own mother. Plus, there was

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absolutely no one around to explain why

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this cartoon had just declared full

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scale war on my innocence.

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>> The early 2000s basically late night

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nights late night anime when [music] you

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can staying up late. Guyver

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an anime on Bravo [music] when they used

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to do it back on cable.

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>> Western anime in the 90s wasn't some

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clean organized Toonami block that

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people had access to. For a lot of

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people it was pure blind luck and that

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is important because it explains the

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deep emotional roots of modern piracy. A

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lot of fans back then didn't just begin

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out of a place of I want free content.

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>> [music]

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>> They began out of a place that I

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literally cannot find this thing

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anywhere. And when you build an entire

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global fandom that way around scarcity,

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swapping archives, and hunting down

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forbidden things those deep rooted

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habits don't just magically disappear

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because a multi-billion dollar company

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eventually decides to launch an app.

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People remember the old problem.

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They remember the feeling, the import

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prices, the butchered dubs, the months

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sometimes years of waiting for an

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official release to hit your local

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shelf. So when the legal market finally

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steps into the room and says, "Trust us.

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>> [music]

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>> We've got it now. Don't worry about it."

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Older fans just look at them

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with a side eye and think, "Have you,

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though?"

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>> [music]

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>> By the time we hit the late '90s to

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early 2000s, fan distribution shifted

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from physical magnetic tapes straight

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into [music] digital files. See, the

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internet didn't just cleanly jump from

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VHS tapes to torrents, and then straight

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to a slick browsing streaming sites. It

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was a really chaotic migration. Files

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moved through Usenet, FTP servers, CDR

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burning circles,

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>> [music]

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>> IRC chat channels, and automated XDCC

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download bots. Who remembers buying

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burnt Naruto CDs at their barber shop? I

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certainly do. I mean, I had a zip-up CD

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wallet full of anime. Using a permanent

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marker to write the name of the anime on

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every disc. One disc would say, "Naruto

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1 to 25." Another one would say, "DBZ

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movies." And you [music] just had to

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pray that this thing actually worked

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when you got home.

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These were also the golden times where

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you could actually buy bootleg anime

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DVDs from eBay. [music]

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>> I vividly remember having to buy Naruto

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CDs off eBay, get the the subbed

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versions.

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>> Then we had IRC. Internet Relay Chat for

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anyone who doesn't know. It was highly

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critical to the entire blueprint of the

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system.

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It was essentially old-school text-only

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chat rooms with file-serving bots

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sitting like they were tiny digital

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warehouse managers.

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>> [music]

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>> You joined a specific channel. You

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looked at the text-based pack list,

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manually typed out your request code for

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a file, and then you waited.

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Sometimes you waited a very long time.

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And IRC had its own ritual. You didn't

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just search like a normal person. You'd

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have to [music] type the commands. MSG

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bot name XDCC send #452.

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>> [laughter]

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>> It's crazy. Then you sat in a queue,

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watched the number crawl down, and

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prayed that the bots didn't disconnect

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before it was your turn.

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Again, to anyone looking from the

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outside, it looked like absolute

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madness.

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>> No!

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>> [crying]

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>> But this was part of the process.

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>> [music]

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>> None of it was seamless. Home dial-up

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and early broadband internet were also

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brutally [music] slow.

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>> I just caught you having fun.

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>> God help you if you were 6 hours into a

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10-hour download of a 74 MB Dragon Ball

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Z movie, only for your mom or dad to

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call the house to see if you were okay,

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and then the internet got disconnected.

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Cheers, mom and dad. Thanks for calling.

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Well, I'm certainly not okay now as I

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wipe my salty tears away.

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And even if you were lucky to complete

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it, the battle wasn't finished. The

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suffering was never over at that point.

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See, this was the DivX and codec pack

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era. Now, DivX was one of the big big

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names associated with compression video

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files. But if your computer didn't have

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the right codec, the file might as well

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have just been useless. [music] A codec

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is basically a bit of software that

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tells your computer how to read the

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video.

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>> [music]

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>> Now, some people would report, well, not

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some people, myself included,

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I waited 2 days for a movie to download,

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opened it, and all you would see is

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solid green screen. Audio was playing,

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but the video was gone. Then, you would

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have to spend the rest of your evening

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or the next couple of days digging

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through forums, downloading K-Lite and

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Nimo codec packs, just trying to make

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the bloody thing work.

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>> Half of the anime fandom accidentally

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became IT support networks

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>> [music]

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>> because one episode refused to bloody

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play. But, compared to mailing physical

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or VHS back and forth across the

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country, it might as well have been Star

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Trek. The underground culture that had

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originally formed around physical clubs

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and tape swaps [music]

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simply packed his bags and moved into

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the digital world. This is the missing

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rung in the history of media

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consumption. VHS clubs, then IRC chat

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servers, then BitTorrent. It wasn't one

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clean evolutionary jump.

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>> [music]

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>> And at this point, the corporate rights

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holders had actually started paying

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attention. Media corporations were now

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already issuing mass takedown notices

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[music] in the infancy of the web. Back

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in 2004, a major Japanese publisher

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called Media Factory sent [music]

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sweeping cease and desist notices to

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underground fan sub groups and prominent

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tracking indexes, [music] including a

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site name called AniSuki, which had now

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become the central public library for

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unlicensed digital releases. And that

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specific corporate pressure is exactly

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where the old school fan sub code

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started [music] to completely fracture.

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The old rule of stop distributing when a

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show gets officially licensed made

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[music] complete sense when your

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distribution was slow, physical, and

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localized. But, it became structurally

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impossible [music] to enforce when

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digital files could be replicated and

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copied globally in the matter of

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seconds. The internet fundamentally

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changed the scale of the game, and scale

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always changes the morals. [music]

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A small local tape circle feels like

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you're sharing, but a global high-speed

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file-sharing network looks like a

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ruthless market competitor. And this is

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the exact millisecond that the anime

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piracy transitioned from a labor of love

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into an existential threat that the

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multi-billion dollar industries

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>> [music]

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>> as a live threat to destroy.

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But the boardroom had no idea the next

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upgrade was coming.

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>> [music]

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>> Torrents were about to turn anime piracy

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from a messy download hunt into a weekly

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global schedule.

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Then BitTorrent arrived, and it made

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everything faster. Well, faster if your

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settings weren't a complete disaster.

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This was the uTorrent era. Green icons,

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yellow warning triangles, seeds,

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leeches, ratios. It literally felt like

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I had unlocked the broadband god mode.

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This is the exact layer of the onion

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where anime piracy became a weekly,

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global, and highly predictable pipeline.

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In the 2000s, tracker indexes like Tokyo

18:23

Toshokan and the legendary public giant

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called Nyaa turns the consumption of

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Japanese animation into a highly

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localized television schedule.

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>> Around this time, this is kind of when

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[music] torrenting was at its all-time

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high. So, like between 2003

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and like

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2012, I was heavy

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on the torrents. Like I still have hard

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drives now [music] with like rare anime,

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like Naruto stuff, Death Note.

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>> And for the fans, this was no longer

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just about downloading a movie. It was

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also a cultural ritual.

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Thursday was Naruto day. Friday was

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Bleach day. Human beings across

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completely different countries and time

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zones were refreshing the exact same web

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pages at the exact same millisecond

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waiting for the exact same episode file

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to drop, arguing about the exact same

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translation choices, and then heading

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into the community forums to behave like

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normal people for approximately [music]

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4 seconds before starting a massive

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flame war over Japanese honorifics.

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Underground fan sub groups became a

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full-blown highly recognized global

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brands. We're talking Dattebayo, Shin

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Sen Subs, Eclipse, Lunar. Depending on

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what you were watching, the specific

19:40

group translating the show mattered

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almost as much as the animation itself.

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People had intense brand loyalty.

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[music]

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They had enemies. I mean,

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#teamdattebayo.

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They had public opinions about font

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choices and subtitle stylings that would

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probably get them placed on the

19:58

government watchlist today. And the

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speed, that was the ultimate product.

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Official corporate releases, where they

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even bother to exist, were notoriously

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slow. Retail DVDs came out months or

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years later. Niche shows were trapped in

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licensing limbo forever. Mainstream dubs

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were heavily edited and butchered for

20:19

Western TV. And official imports were

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wildly expensive. The fan subs were

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rough around the edges, sure, but they

20:27

were incredibly fast. And that speed

20:29

completely re-engineered consumer

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expectations. Once a fan got used to

20:34

watching an anime episode just hours

20:36

after it aired on Japanese television,

20:39

and then they were now being told by a

20:40

company to wait 6 months for a physical

20:43

DVD box set, that started to feel like a

20:46

personal insult. See, the industry had

20:49

spent decades training fans to wait.

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Piracy trained them never to wait again.

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This is one of the most critical

20:55

structural shifts in the entire story.

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Piracy didn't just supply the product,

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it set the clock. And the multi-billion

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dollar legal industry eventually had to

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respond to that exact clock because they

21:08

knew that their entire global audience

21:11

had already crossed the street. But, how

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do you respond to a competitor that is

21:15

faster, completely free, and already

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commands the loyalty of your entire

21:20

target market? Well, you do something

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completely radical. You stop fighting

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the pirates, and you copy their entire

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business model.

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>> [music]

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>> Which brings us to one of the strangest,

21:34

most hypocritical characters [music] in

21:36

this entire investigation, Crunchyroll.

21:39

Because Crunchyroll it had sat

21:41

comfortably [music] on both sides of the

21:43

battlefield. Back when it launched in

21:45

2006, Crunchyroll wasn't some pristine

21:48

corporate entity. It was an explicitly

21:51

100% illegal, user-uploaded [music]

21:54

video streaming site packed with

21:56

absolute brim of unauthorized,

21:59

unlicensed anime cards, [music]

22:01

and its massive, massive pirate hub. It

22:04

operated so efficiently that in the

22:06

early 2008, a prominent venture capital

22:09

firm called Venrock handed them a $4

22:12

million check funding. This move

22:14

absolutely enraged the traditional

22:16

[music] anime industry.

22:25

BECAUSE A MAINSTREAM AMERICAN investment

22:28

firm had just poured millions into a

22:30

platform [music]

22:31

built entirely on structural copyright

22:35

infringement. And then came the pivot.

22:38

Between 2008 and 2009, Crunchyroll

22:42

decided to go clean. They started

22:44

negotiating official legal streaming

22:47

deals with Japanese production

22:48

committees.

22:49

The ultimate turning point was a deal

22:52

for Naruto Shippuden. TV Tokyo and

22:54

Studio Pierrot partnered directly with

22:57

the platform to simulcast the show

22:59

legally. This historic deal took place

23:01

on January the 8th, 2009, starting with

23:04

the Naruto Shippuden episode

23:06

>> [music]

23:06

>> 91.

23:08

For the first time ever, paid

23:10

subscribers could watch a premium

23:12

episode legally with English subtitles

23:15

roughly 1 [music] hour after it hit the

23:17

airwaves in Japan.

23:19

The legal side didn't curb piracy with

23:21

moral guilt or [music] anti-theft

23:23

advertisements. It beat a massive piece

23:26

of the black market by copying its

23:28

absolute best feature, convenience.

23:31

At the same time, a younger, less

23:33

technical generation was finding anime

23:35

through the dumbest possible route,

23:37

YouTube. Now, I remember watching entire

23:41

arcs in parts.

23:42

>> Yo, you trying to watch a new Bleach?

23:43

>> Uh-huh.

23:44

>> Yeah, but give me a second. I'm setting

23:45

it up, but we're going to watch it the

23:46

right way. We're going to watch it on

23:48

YouTube.

23:49

>> What?

23:49

>> Easy. No, I downloaded episode and I'm

23:51

uploading it on YouTube in three parts.

23:53

>> Why are we watching Bleach on YouTube?

23:55

>> Cuz this is how I started watching it

23:56

when it first dropped. It's not going to

23:57

hit the same unless I do this.

24:00

>> I I don't understand.

24:01

>> you to.

24:03

You wouldn't get it. You don't. You

24:05

wasn't in the trenches like us, man. You

24:06

You wasn't there.

24:07

>> We're talking part one of 10, part two

24:09

of 10, tiny video in the middle of the

24:12

screen, mirrored, [music]

24:14

weird borders, and sometimes pitched up

24:16

audio. And then you would find that part

24:19

seven was missing. Or if you're unlucky,

24:21

you would click the next part and get

24:23

Rick rolled. [music]

24:24

>> Please do as me and love you. All right,

24:25

bet.

24:28

Hey, yo. Oh, yeah, YOU WANT TO RICK

24:30

ROLL? YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO RICK ROLL?

24:32

>> For a lot of people, that was their

24:34

first online anime library. Broken,

24:36

cropped, or half missing, and somehow it

24:39

was still better than nothing. Overall,

24:42

this is the boring answer corporate PR

24:44

teams never want to put on their poster.

24:47

Crunchyroll proved that a huge chunk of

24:49

piracy demand could be converted when

24:51

the legal version matched the things

24:53

that the fans actually valued, speed.

24:57

The corporate world really forgot this

24:58

exact lesson.

25:00

They won the first battle of convenience

25:02

and speed and then they grew greedy.

25:05

They started consolidating the market,

25:07

slicing up the libraries, and building

25:09

[music] corporate walls. Unwittingly

25:11

creating the exact digital environment

25:14

that would cause [music] a new

25:15

hyper-industrialized wave of piracy to

25:18

explode.

25:20

>> [music]

25:22

>> Before these piracy streaming websites

25:24

became the smooth, flawless, one-click

25:26

machines that you all see today, they

25:29

relied on a massive hidden network of

25:31

cyberlockers and video hosts.

25:33

See, the site that you were actually

25:35

visiting, they weren't hosting a single

25:37

file. It didn't have the data. They were

25:40

just embedding videos from somewhere

25:41

else. Megaupload, RapidShare, FileServe,

25:45

FileSonic, these services formed the

25:48

invisible plumbing of the entire

25:50

internet. And that world had its own

25:53

waiting room. You would click the link,

25:55

type the CAPTCHA, then stare at the

25:57

timer. 45 seconds. Then you would get

26:01

the free download button that finally

26:03

unlocks. And if it failed at 99, you

26:06

would start all over again. And yes, it

26:09

was annoying and it felt like eternity.

26:12

Anime was not the only content moving

26:14

through those digital pipes, but the

26:16

illegal streaming sites used that exact

26:18

corporate infrastructure to print money.

26:21

Then January 2012 happened.

26:25

>> [music]

26:28

>> The United States Department of Justice

26:30

would step in, completely shut down

26:32

Megaupload, seize the domains, and

26:34

charge the founders with high-level

26:35

copyright offenses. The entire

26:37

file-sharing world went into immediate

26:40

[music]

26:40

blind panic. Media outlets reported that

26:43

at the time, competing giants like

26:45

FileSonic [music] and FileServe disabled

26:48

their public sharing features overnight

26:50

out of pure terror. That single moment

26:53

showed how incredibly fragile the entire

26:55

cyberlocker model actually was.

26:58

For anime streaming sites that

26:59

completely dependent on those embedded

27:01

links, it was an absolute tech blackout.

27:04

Dead video players, missing episodes,

27:07

broken links, and millions of users

27:09

suddenly discovering that their free

27:11

library was just a digital illusion held

27:13

together by three [music] mirrors and a

27:16

prayer. So, when the old cyberlocker

27:18

model collapsed, the next winning

27:20

platform did not need to create the

27:22

demand. [music] The demand was already

27:24

there. It just had to make the hunt a

27:27

lot easier. And by 2012,

27:30

KissAnime did exactly that.

27:39

2010s were a glorious time.

27:42

Supernatural, the TV show, was booming,

27:45

and it was also the absolute golden age

27:48

of pirate streaming.

27:49

And the undisputed king of that

27:51

landscape was a platform called

27:53

KissAnime.

27:55

Launched in 2012, KissAnime exploded to

27:58

be one of the single largest anime

28:01

piracy operations on the planet before

28:04

it eventually collapsed under [music]

28:06

intense legal pressure. For millions of

28:08

fans, this wasn't just some obscure back

28:11

alley webpage. It was the front door.

28:14

If you typed "watch Naruto online" or

28:17

"watch One Piece episode" into Google,

28:20

there it was, sitting at the top in its

28:22

all beautiful glory of the search

28:24

results. KissAnime mattered profoundly

28:27

because it [music] completely changed

28:28

the user.

28:30

Search, click, play.

28:32

Well, actually, search, click, fight the

28:35

website, then play. I mean, you didn't

28:38

just press play. First, you would click,

28:40

then

28:41

>> [music]

28:41

>> there was a pop-up, then there was a

28:43

second click, another tab, third click.

28:46

Now, the episode actually starts.

28:48

Sometimes you also got that hot singles

28:50

in your area pop up. KissAnime was dodgy

28:53

as hell sometimes, and it still felt

28:56

easier than the legal route.

28:58

That was the seismic shift. Anime piracy

29:01

stopped being a niche hobby for

29:03

technically literate internet users and

29:05

became a completely normalized viewing

29:07

behavior for kids, students, broke fans,

29:11

region-locked communities, and casual

29:13

viewers who simply followed the path of

29:15

least resistance. For a massive chunk of

29:18

the global population across Brazil,

29:20

India, the Philippines, Latin America,

29:23

and parts of Europe, KissAnime was their

29:25

very first anime catalog. Not because it

29:29

was legal, and certainly not because it

29:31

was safe, but because it was there and

29:34

it was available. KissAnime proved that

29:36

piracy had learned everything from legal

29:39

platforms. It wasn't just a list of

29:41

files anymore. It had browsing, it had

29:43

[music] search, categories, watchlists.

29:46

It was anime as a service. Except the

29:49

service was completely illegal and

29:51

occasionally looked like it might

29:53

install unwanted web browser toolbar

29:55

from 2008. So, when KissAnime was

29:58

permanently forced offline, millions of

30:00

people treated it like a literal

30:02

>> [music]

30:02

>> internet funeral.

30:14

>> [music]

30:16

>> Forums filled with thousands of mourning

30:18

posts. Twitter erupted with insider

30:21

jokes. People who had grown up using the

30:23

site talked about it like its demise was

30:26

like a death of a childhood friend.

30:28

For a lot of users, the memory is

30:30

simple. You load the site and it was

30:33

just gone.

30:34

No episode, no home page. I mean, some

30:37

people said, "I thought my internet was

30:39

broken at first." But if the industry

30:42

thought that the death of KissAnime was

30:43

a final victory, they had absolutely no

30:46

idea what was brewing in the shadows.

30:55

Out of the ashes of the old platform

30:57

rose a brand new breed of pirate

31:00

empires, sleeker, faster, built on

31:03

highly optimized ultra-modern content

31:05

delivery networks. The king of this

31:08

high-tech era was a site called Aniwave.

31:11

Formerly known to millions of people as

31:13

9Anime, Aniwave wasn't just some dodgy

31:16

amateur webpage. It was a new digital

31:19

superpower pulling in billions of global

31:22

views and operating with the corporate

31:24

efficiency of a Silicon Valley startup

31:27

until the summer of 2024.

31:30

In a massive coordinated multinational

31:32

legal strike that sent shockwaves

31:34

through the entire internet

31:35

infrastructure, a coalition of Hollywood

31:38

studios, Netflix, and Japan's Koda

31:41

completely pulled the plug. Overnight,

31:44

Aniwave, AniSearch, and a dozen sister

31:46

streaming hubs vanished [music] from the

31:48

web. It was the single largest anime

31:51

piracy purge in the history of anime.

31:53

The operators didn't even fight back.

31:56

They just left a single haunting message

31:58

on the blank white screen, thanking the

32:00

fans and telling them to use the legal

32:02

streams. Shortly after, secondary

32:05

platforms like AnimeKhai experienced

32:07

severe catastrophic server and hosting

32:09

outages, [music] leading directly to

32:11

their absolute demise.

32:13

Once again, the industry celebrated its

32:16

total definitive victory. But the

32:19

traffic again didn't just vanish. A lot

32:22

of it moved into the next monster,

32:24

HiAnime.

32:25

HiAnime came from the same messy

32:27

bloodline as Zoro and AniWatch. And

32:30

after Aniwave went down, it became one

32:32

of the biggest anime piracy sites on the

32:34

planet. At what point, [music] HiAnime

32:37

reportedly pulled in 364

32:40

million visits in [music] a single

32:42

month.

32:43

Not yearly, monthly.

32:46

And the usual suspects were already

32:48

circling. The MPA had linked HiAnime

32:51

back to Zoro and AniWatch's bloodline.

32:54

They suspected that the trail pointed

32:56

towards Vietnam.

32:58

The hosting location was hidden behind

33:00

Cloudflare and ACE had already been

33:02

chasing. And then the US government

33:04

officially put it on the notorious

33:06

markets list. So when HiAnime suddenly

33:09

went dark in March 2026,

33:12

everyone started asking the obvious

33:13

question. Was that it? Was HiAnime

33:16

actually dead? Or was it just another

33:19

rebrand, another domain shuffle, another

33:21

paint job on the same getaway car?

33:24

Because the goodbye message looks final.

33:26

No anime pirate king dragging to court,

33:29

just a simple message across its domain

33:32

thanking users for the journey. Again,

33:35

some anime fans treated it like a

33:37

funeral.

33:37

>> Today, our worst fears have been

33:39

confirmed. HiAnime has officially shut

33:42

down. Now, this shouldn't come as a

33:44

total surprise because they have been

33:46

quiet for nearly 80 days. But it is now

33:49

official. All contact with the team has

33:51

been lost and its major accounts and

33:52

networks have disappeared.

33:54

>> Others immediately started hunting the

33:56

next mirror, the next clone, the next

33:59

official replacement that probably

34:01

wasn't official at all. And that's is

34:03

the point. Different name, same

34:05

behavior. The audience moves, the map

34:08

changes, the hunt continues.

34:11

>> [music]

34:14

>> By the late 2010s to 2020s, legal anime

34:17

streaming had genuinely improved.

34:20

Crunchyroll, Funimation, Netflix, Hulu,

34:22

HiDive, Amazon, [music] Disney. They did

34:25

help make anime more available than it

34:28

had ever been. Simulcasts became normal.

34:31

Major shows often reach international

34:33

viewers quickly.

34:35

Watching anime became legally possible

34:38

in a way that simply had not been for

34:40

earlier generations.

34:41

>> [music]

34:41

>> Anime was now incredibly accessible. And

34:44

as someone who went through a period of

34:46

watching up to six series a week, yes, I

34:49

know, that's madness. I genuinely now

34:52

couldn't keep up with the sheer volume

34:54

of new anime.

34:56

New generations of anime viewers would

34:58

then come into the fold. Anime was no

35:00

longer a niche hobby. It was now a mass

35:03

market item. But, that's the point.

35:06

Anime had become big enough for casual

35:08

fans to flood in. And once anime became

35:11

mainstream, the legal market started

35:14

behaving like every other mainstream

35:16

streaming market, crowded, fragmented,

35:19

and also very irritating.

35:21

Sony would then complete its acquisition

35:23

of Crunchyroll from AT&T in 2021 through

35:27

Funimation Global Group for 1.175

35:30

billion in cash, bringing two major

35:33

anime streaming brands under the same

35:35

corporate roof. That helped consolidate

35:38

some of the market, [music]

35:39

but consolidation did not magically make

35:41

the shows available everywhere. Instead,

35:44

>> [music]

35:44

>> it kicked off a massive monopoly arms

35:46

race. Sony wanted to own everything

35:49

anime-related, but then they forgot the

35:51

one thing. They can't conquer the laws

35:53

of international copyright. Rights are

35:56

still territorial. Windows still vary,

35:59

and other platforms still hold

36:01

exclusives. So, fans got a strange

36:04

result.

36:04

>> [music]

36:04

>> Anime was now more legal than ever, but

36:07

the legal experience still felt

36:09

incomplete.

36:11

The old phantom argument was,

36:13

>> [music]

36:13

>> "We're translating what nobody gives

36:15

us." The modern piracy argument became,

36:18

"We're collecting what legal services

36:20

deliberately scattered."

36:22

And that is a completely different moral

36:24

claim. If one legal platform has season

36:27

1, another has the movie, [music] the

36:30

third has the new season, and your

36:32

country gets none of it, people are

36:34

really going to notice. And most

36:36

importantly, they are going to notice if

36:39

the illegal site has everything in one

36:41

place.

36:42

Again, that doesn't make piracy legal.

36:45

It explains why the legal pitch fails.

36:48

You cannot sell people a maze and then

36:50

act shocked when they use a hole in the

36:52

fence.

36:54

Let's talk about region locks. Because

36:56

if there's one thing that has done more

36:58

free marketing for piracy than almost

37:00

anything else, it's this phrase,

37:03

>> [music]

37:03

>> "Not available in your region." Imagine

37:05

being a fan in Brazil, or Turkey, or

37:08

Argentina, or parts of Africa, or just

37:11

anywhere the licensing treats like an

37:13

afterthought with Wi-Fi.

37:15

>> [music]

37:15

>> You pay for a subscription, you search

37:17

for the show that everyone online is

37:19

talking about, and [music] the app says

37:21

no.

37:22

And it's not because the show doesn't

37:24

exist, and it's definitely not because

37:26

you are not willing to pay, and again,

37:28

not certainly not because the technology

37:31

doesn't exist, but because the rights

37:33

agreement has been decided that your

37:35

country sits outside of the magic

37:37

circle.

37:39

From the industry's point of view, this

37:41

makes total business sense. Rights are

37:43

[music] sold by territories,

37:45

distributors make deals, platforms

37:47

negotiate windows, lawyers exist, and

37:50

sadly, lawyers must be fed. But from the

37:53

fan point of view,

37:54

it feels totally insane.

37:57

The internet is global, yet some regions

37:59

are being treated like second-class

38:01

citizens.

38:02

I've read constant complaints from fans

38:04

around the world. I've paid and the show

38:06

still isn't available here.

38:08

So, what's the point of paying if the

38:10

pirate site has it and the app [music]

38:12

doesn't? Another reasons fans distrust

38:14

legal streams is the censorship. Now,

38:17

this hasn't always been the platform

38:19

fault. Sometimes the censored version is

38:22

the Japanese TV broadcast versions.

38:24

Sometimes the uncensored version only

38:26

appears later on Blu-ray.

38:28

>> [music]

38:29

>> Sometimes different regions have

38:30

different standards.

38:32

And certainly sometimes family-friendly

38:35

branding gets involved. Unfortunately,

38:38

none of this is ever explained to the

38:40

customer. Which is a brilliant way for

38:42

your customers to assume the worst.

38:44

Regardless of however you want to look

38:46

at it, the result is always simple. Fans

38:49

press play. They don't always know what

38:51

version that they're getting. The blood

38:53

is blurred, the nudity is covered, the

38:56

violence [music] is darkened, swearing

38:58

softened, and scenes altered. Seriously,

39:01

don't get me started on Terra Formars

39:02

and their legendary black censorship.

39:05

Whoever handled that must have been

39:07

really in a hurry to get home or to a

39:09

local bar for a drink. I mean, it put me

39:12

off that show for half a decade until I

39:14

got my hands on the Blu-ray version. So,

39:16

you end up sitting there wondering if

39:18

you're being gaslit into believing that

39:20

half an orange is actually a full

39:22

orange.

39:23

It feels like a diabolical real-life

39:26

Genjutsu somehow. Except this one just

39:28

wants your wallet. For many older fans,

39:31

this paranoia triggers massive

39:33

generational trauma. We still remember

39:35

the dark ages of the four kids dubs.

39:37

>> [music]

39:37

>> An era where One Piece had Marines

39:40

holding ridiculous water guns and

39:42

Sanji's cigarettes was edited into a

39:44

permanent lollipop. An era where nobody

39:47

could actually die. Instead, characters

39:49

were constantly getting sent to the

39:51

shadow realm or blasted into the next

39:53

dimension.

39:57

>> Maybe you won't be such a disappointment

40:00

in the next dimension.

40:01

>> Stop me

40:05

or you'll find yourselves

40:08

in

40:09

a new dimension.

40:10

>> They even took Sailor Moon and clumsily

40:13

rewrote Uranus and Neptune as

40:15

>> cousins

40:16

>> just to erase their romantic

40:17

relationship. Who knows? Maybe we

40:20

weren't ready for that cousin

40:21

conversation as kids. Regardless, that

40:24

history has damaged trust. Fans learned

40:27

that the official version was not always

40:29

the complete version. Again, the legal

40:32

answer might be complicated. [music]

40:34

Broadcast standards, ratings, licensing,

40:36

masters, whatever. But the emotional

40:39

result is not complicated. People feel

40:42

cheated when they pay for a version that

40:44

they believe

40:46

and ultimately turns out to be

40:48

incomplete.

40:49

Pirates are winning because they took

40:51

the legal files, stripped away the

40:53

friction, and placed them inside a

40:55

service that often feels easier to use.

40:58

So, what do big companies do? They hit

41:00

you with the guilt trip. Piracy hurts

41:02

creators.

41:13

>> [music]

41:14

>> And look, on paper, we could say that

41:16

some of it makes sense. Less money

41:18

hurts. But to the modern fan, it feels

41:21

totally hollow.

41:23

Why? Because the anime industry is

41:25

making record profit.

41:27

And yet, [music] the average 24-year-old

41:29

animator in Tokyo is sleeping under

41:31

their desk, working 18-hour days drawing

41:33

these massive global fight scenes for

41:35

literal crumbs.

41:37

The cash flows through production

41:38

committees, licensing corporations, and

41:41

massive streaming monopolies before it

41:43

ever hits the artists. Piracy drains

41:46

money, sure. But a legal subscription

41:48

somehow doesn't guarantee that the

41:50

artist gets a decent life, either.

41:53

And that begs the question, if we can

41:55

support the artists, why is it that the

41:58

artists are the last people to get paid?

42:04

So, when the guilt trip fails, the

42:06

corporations turn to brute force. And

42:08

they are throwing serious money at it.

42:11

Look at this map, right here, the

42:13

international police launched a massive

42:15

sweep called Operation Animes. They

42:18

didn't just send scary emails, I promise

42:20

you. They coordinated across borders,

42:23

froze [music] bank accounts, and wiped

42:24

out over 50 massive streaming hubs in

42:27

one go. In Japan, they changed the law.

42:30

Hard jail time for downloading and total

42:33

bans on leak sites. They are treating

42:35

piracy like an illegal drug cartel and

42:38

not just a bunch of teenagers sharing

42:40

files.

42:41

And look, sometimes it actually works.

42:43

The data shows that when a massive file

42:45

sharing site gets completely

42:47

obliterated, revenues being made by

42:49

these legal streaming platform

42:51

temporarily increase. Despite the

42:54

arrests, despite the site blocks, pirate

42:56

demand is still rising alongside the

42:59

legal market. Every single time a new

43:02

show trends globally and drives

43:04

record-leading sales,

43:06

pirate traffic doesn't drop. [music] It

43:08

continues to explode. They're fighting

43:10

essentially a ghost marketplace, a

43:13

phantom economy, where billions of

43:16

unauthorized views drive massive global

43:18

hype,

43:19

while the corporations see 0% of that

43:22

cash itself.

43:23

Because at the end of the day,

43:25

convenience beats scolding every single

43:28

time.

43:30

So, what's the actual takeaway here?

43:32

If you look at the courtroom dramas and

43:34

the website takedowns, the reality is

43:37

remarkably simple.

43:38

Anime piracy is not dying. It's just

43:41

changing outfits. The industry has every

43:44

legal right to fight piracy. But, when

43:46

it uses underpaid creators as a face of

43:49

that fight, while its own platforms get

43:51

worse, more expensive, and more

43:54

fragmented, the moral page starts to

43:56

rot. We are living through the absolute

43:59

age of media insidification.

44:01

These platforms raced to secure a near

44:04

total monopoly, and the second they

44:06

accomplished that, they turned on their

44:08

own customers. They hiked the

44:09

subscription prices, they killed the

44:11

free tiers, they casually deleted

44:13

digital libraries that users thought

44:15

they owned. And their new ultimate

44:17

shortcut, they're now actively firing

44:20

human translators and replacing them

44:22

with broken automated AI subtitles that

44:25

butcher [music] the nuance of the story.

44:27

All while demanding that you pay more

44:30

for a degraded product.

44:31

The legal industry has spent two decades

44:34

asking the exact same defensive

44:36

question, "How do we stop piracy?" This

44:39

is a fraudulent question in my opinion.

44:41

The real question they refuse to look in

44:43

the eye is this,

44:45

"Why does the illegal black market still

44:47

feel like a flat-out better product than

44:49

a monopoly that people are actively

44:52

trying to pay for?" If you put a lock on

44:54

a door, someone is going to try and pick

44:56

it. But the real crisis happens when the

44:59

corporate version is fragmented, a

45:01

broken maze, while the pirate version

45:03

gives you a flawless user experience.

45:06

You cannot sue your way into a good

45:08

product, just ask Nintendo. You cannot

45:11

lecture a global audience into accepting

45:13

higher prices for a much worse service.

45:16

Just wanting to connect with a culture

45:18

that they love, they don't care about

45:20

territorial licenses, Windows, or

45:22

corporate boardroom politics. They're

45:24

just looking for the one thing that

45:26

works, and they reward that door that

45:28

opens, whether it's legal or pirate.

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