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Harrisburg City Planning Commission Meeting - 5/7/2026

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Summary

The Harrisburg City Planning Commission approved multiple pivotal development initiatives, notably endorsing two significant affordable housing projects on Allison Hill, the historic adaptive reuse of an Art Deco publishing house, and a specialized adolescent therapeutic playground. A proposed zoning amendment for signage regulations was delayed due to commissioner absence.

This meeting highlights municipal strategy on Allison Hill, demonstrating how Harrisburg coordinates zoning variances, green infrastructure, and historical preservation to foster affordable housing and commercial reuse.

Section summaries

0:00-1:53

Call to Order & Signage Ordinance Postponement

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The commission approves the previous month's minutes. However, the anticipated zoning amendment on signage regulations is immediately postponed to the next session because Commissioner Vern McKisik is absent.

The main agenda item for old business was tabled without any substantive discussion.

1:53-18:50

1854-1860 Walnut Street Multifamily Conversion

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The commission reviews a request to consolidate four properties into a 5-unit multifamily building. Discussions focus on removing non-conforming gravel parking to comply with stormwater standards, and resolving unpermitted work with the Codes Bureau.

Offers an informative breakdown of how local stormwater policies and code enforcement impact multi-lot acquisitions.

18:50-28:15

1257-1259 Walnut Street Cooperative Housing

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South Central PA Restoration presents plans for an environmentally-friendly 6-unit infill project. The developers discuss their partnership with a local trade nonprofit, green building components, and their intent to utilize an affordable housing cooperative ownership model.

Highly engaging review of modern co-op models, sustainable design, and neighborhood integration in Allison Hill.

28:15-41:26

Penn State Health Outdoor Therapeutic Playground

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Penn State Health petitions to construct a specialized, secure outdoor therapeutic playground for adolescent psychiatric patients. The commission debates the safety benefits of a proposed 10-foot tall mesh fence and defensive bollards along Boyd Street.

A niche, straightforward institutional use with minimal broad policy implications.

41:26-58:23

34-Unit Scattered-Site Affordable Housing (Phase 2)

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The commission evaluates a large-scale scattered-site infill project proposing 34 affordable housing units across nine vacant properties. Developers explain the success of Phase 1, and answer questions regarding sidewalk widening, street trees, and illegal dumping.

An essential segment mapping out major residential changes across multiple Allison Hill blocks.

58:23-1:11:34

112 North 13th Street Historic Book Publisher Restoration

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Review of the land development plan to convert the historic 1922 Art Deco Central Publishing House into a 12-unit residential building. Engineers describe street tree placement, historic district facade preservation, and necessary driveway waivers.

Provides an excellent example of adaptive reuse balancing preservation criteria with modern housing demands.

1:11:34-1:15:20

New Deputy Planning Director Introduction & Adjournment

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Planning Director Jeffrey Knight introduces Stephanie Thompson, the newly hired Deputy Director of Planning and Harrisburg native. The commission welcomes her, previews the light June agenda, and adjourns the meeting.

This section consists of standard administrative introductions and informal meeting closeouts.

Key points

  • Gravel Parking Lots Evaluated as Impervious Surfaces — Capital Regional Water (CRW) treats unpaved gravel lots as impervious surfaces unless specifically engineered to handle stormwater. Replacing unmanaged gravel with structured parking pads and turf actually reduces a property's total impervious surface footprint.
  • Cooperative Housing Models Secure Long-Term Affordability — A proposed infill project at 1257-1259 Walnut Street will employ a cooperative housing (co-op) model. Residents hold partial equity ownership, creating a stepping stone to homeownership and legally locking in affordability over time.
  • Adaptive Reuse of Historic Art Deco Assets — The vacant 1922 Church of God Central Publishing House is set for adaptive reuse—converting the blighted structure into a 12-unit apartment complex while retaining its classic architectural detailing like masonry buttresses and arched transoms.
  • The Psychology of Illegal Sidewalk Parking — During debates on a 34-unit scattered-site project, officials noted that residents often park on vacant lots or sidewalks. This behavior stems from a fear that passing vehicles will clip their side-view mirrors on narrow neighborhood streets.
The decadesl long vacancy of the subject properties demonstrates the challenges inherent in identifying appropriate and feasible redevelopment projects... Jeffrey Knight
And finally, the proposed building design incorporates a number of novel features for projects in the city, including the incorporation of a rooftop deck, green roof, and solar panel array. Jeffrey Knight

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0:05

like to call the Harshburg Planning

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Commission to order at approximately

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632.

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Um commissioners, um you received your

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April 1st, 20

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26 meeting minutes. Are there any

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changes, additions, deletions?

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If not, could I get a motion for

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approval?

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Move to approve.

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>> Is there a second?

0:32

>> Second.

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>> It's been moved and second approval of

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the minutes as they are. All those in

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favor state by saying I.

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>> I.

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>> I.

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>> Opposed. Abstention.

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Motion carried.

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Under old business. This is a zoning

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code amendment

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uh for signage regulations outlined in

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chapter 7-325

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of the zoning code. is filed by the

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hashtra plane bureau and is to revise

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and streamline the ordinance to support

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city businesses and organizations

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accommodate modern signage best

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practices and ensure new signage designs

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are compatible with surrounding

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neighborhoods. Yes.

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>> Uh yes,

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>> sorry. Uh yeah. So, um I know we were

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kind of hoping Vern was going to be able

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to be here uh as I think he is the only

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uh commissioner we hadn't heard from uh

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yet regarding uh the uh signage

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regulations. Uh but he is clearly not

1:35

here uh this afternoon. So, uh, I don't

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know, um, whether the rest of the

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commissioners feel comfortable moving

1:42

ahead and just, uh, uh, taking action,

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uh, with maybe some additional

1:48

discussion or whether you would like to

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wait to hear from, uh, Commissioner

1:53

McKisik.

1:56

Commissioners, it's your

2:04

>> Okay.

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I mean, I I don't think so. I think um

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you know, it's important to get it right

2:12

here as it leaves uh the planning

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commission and and to hear from

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everybody. Uh and I know we have heard

2:17

from the rest of the commissioners. So,

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I don't I don't think I don't think

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there's I don't think there's a harm in

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postponing another month.

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>> Okay.

2:28

>> Could I get a motion to continue this

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until the next meeting?

2:34

>> Is there a second? Second.

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>> It's been moved a second to continue

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this until the next uh our next meeting.

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All those in favor state by saying I

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>> oppose.

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Motion carries.

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Uh item number two. This is a a variance

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and special exception application for

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1854 through 1860 W Street. This is the

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zone RM is followed by area cosmos

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and establish a multif family going use

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through consolidation of multiple lots

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with individual residencies into a

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single lot and to construct required off

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street parking and rear yard.

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Y okay. So the applicant is proposing to

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consolidate four subject properties into

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a single parcel which will consolidate

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three single family dwellings and a

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mixeduse building proposed for

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conversion to two units to create a

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5-unit multif family dwelling which

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requires zoning hearing board approval

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of a special exception for the proposed

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use per section 7-305.7 the zoning code

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and a variance for encroachment of

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parking space in the rear yard setback.

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The properties at 1854 to 1860 Walnut

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Street total 2 acres and feature a row

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of connected 2 and 1/2 story structures

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which were constructed circa 1900.

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Properties abounded by Apricot Alley to

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the north. The properties at 510 North

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19th Street and 1862 Walnut Street to

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the east, Walnut Street to the south,

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and the property at 1852 Walnut Street

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to the west. This row of attached

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structures features elements of the

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Italian 8 and vernacular architectural

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styles. Character defining features

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include the varied facade and treatments

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including vinyl, vertical wood and wood

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wooden shingle siding, the seconds story

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porch on the front elevation connecting

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three of the four buildings and the

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prominent dormers. The main entrances

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feature primarily feature paneled metal

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doors set within simple frames. Although

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the property at 1861 street features a

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half view pane with simulated divide

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light mountains, they are accessed by

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small concrete patios. Penetration

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features windows in a variety of sizes,

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shape, shapes, sizes, pane

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configurations, and settings. Although

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most of the windows on the rear

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elevations are one over one. Properties

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at 1854 and 1856 W Street feature

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prominent dormers on the on the third

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floor with simple pediments. Structures

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are topped with steep gable roofs clad

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and asphalt shingles. The front yards of

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all four properties are are enclosed by

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4ft high chainlink fences and are

5:10

covered by pavers or astroturf. The rear

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yards are relatively undeveloped and

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feature a gravel parking lot that

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extends across all four lots. Although

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the properties are somewhat similar in

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massing to other properties along Walnut

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Street and and in the surrounding

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neighborhood, they have been

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significantly altered in a variety of

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ways. As such, the buildings do not

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contribute to the architectural

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character of the streetscape and

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neighborhood.

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The planning bureau staff recommends the

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request be approved with the following

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conditions. Uh, the applicant should

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remove the existing non-conforming and

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unpermitted parking in the rear yard and

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replace this parking with six head-end

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parking spaces directly accessible from

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Apricot Alley. And the applicant should

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remove the gravel constituting the

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current parking area and either plant

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grass or install amenities for the

5:51

benefits of tenants. If granted zoning

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approval to move forward with the

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project as proposed, the applicant shall

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allow the codes bureau to perform a

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comprehensive inspection of 1860 Walnut

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Street to identify any outstanding code

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violations related to the unpermitted

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establishment of the first floor

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residential unit and will receive

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approval for all necessary city permits

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prior to receiving a certificate of

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occupancy. Plan B staff recommends the

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request be approved for the following

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reasons. The proposal will not

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appreciably change the existing

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configuration of the properties on site

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aside from the conversion of firstf

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flooror commercial space at 1860 Walnut

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Street into an additional residential

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unit which will limit the impact on the

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surrounding neighborhood. If the

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condition of the planning bureau is

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adopted, the configuration of the

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consolidated property will be enhanced

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to provide tenants with more outdoor

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space to remove non-conforming parking

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surfaces and imperous surface and to

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create more recreational recreational

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and relaxation space for tenants of the

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properties. And finally, whatever

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parking configuration is ultimately

6:48

approved, the applicant will need to

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coordinate with Capitol Regional Water

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on Storm Water Management for the

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proposed parking areas.

6:55

>> Thank you, Jeff.

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>> Yes.

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>> State your name, address, and

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relationship to the project.

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>> My name is Arya Carmason. Address is 752

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Willow Street, Lebanon, Pennsylvania. I

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am uh the architect for the client uh

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that just purchased the properties.

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>> Okay. You heard the staff report

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[clears throat] with the two conditions.

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Are you acceptable of those conditions?

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>> Uh yes. I didn't quite get all of it. I

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believe it was uh no gravel and

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uh yeah. So the two conditions uh were

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that uh the gravel parking lot in the

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rear yards of the properties uh will be

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removed and replaced with um six spaces

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directly accessible from Apricot Alley.

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um so that the rear yards can be

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returned to grass or you know space for

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uh tenants. And then the second one is

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ensuring that uh 1860 Walnut Street uh

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have a thorough codes inspection. Um I

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note in the application it sounded as

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though there was a residential unit

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established um in the former salon that

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was located 1860. And um our records

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don't show that ever having been

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approved or inspected. So, we want to

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make sure that's inspected to just

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ensure that any electrical or plumbing

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work was done correctly.

8:16

>> Okay.

8:16

>> Yes.

8:18

>> Uh, did you want to add anything to the

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report?

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>> Not at this time.

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>> Okay. Um, Jeff, um, what's the

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requirements for their parking?

8:30

>> Uh, so for the five total units that

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will be on site, they would be required

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to have six spaces.

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And you said they do have seven

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>> uh they have seven uh shown in the

8:44

drawing, but again that's just like in

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the existing gravel parking area, which

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you can't really um specify because you

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can't like line gravel. Uh so uh what

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we're saying is that they should have

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parking directly accessible from Apricot

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Alley, which is what most of the other

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properties along uh this block of

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Apricot Alley have, just a you know

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concrete parking pad in their rear yard.

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uh something like that and then have the

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yard returned to grass or whatever for

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uh the benefit of the tenants.

9:12

>> I'm sorry. Hold on just so I can

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visualize what you're saying here.

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>> Yeah. like you would just pull in right

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from uh I cut alley into each of the

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spaces. Yep.

9:42

>> How many spaces?

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>> Uh so the rear the rear property line of

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the consolidated lots will be about 67

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ft. Um and uh at uh the required

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dimensions of parking spaces 9 ft wide

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by 18 ft long. You'd be able to fit um

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seven well I guess you'd be able to fit

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uh seven spaces in there

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>> this way. Uh yes,

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along the back if it's 66

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>> unless it's7

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>> uh it was I mean at 67 I I added the uh

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property line width from the county

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website.

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>> So no clearance. Why I measured it?

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Okay.

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>> Yeah. So if you say there's seven

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spaces,

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>> they would only and again only six

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spaces would be required uh to meet the

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requirements of the zoning code.

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>> [clears throat]

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>> No, I think

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>> Oh, the other question. Have you um

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communicated with the um community at

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all? I know they have a community

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organization out there. I haven't uh

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commu uh communicated with them in in

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that sense, but I did send out some

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letters and I did uh receive from phone

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calls which I I talked to them and

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explained what we were doing

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>> and most of them were acceptable.

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>> Yes.

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>> Commissioners, I see any questions I

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have so far. So if you have any

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questions or concerns, we'll start with

11:25

Commissioner.

11:28

Yeah, I have no concerns. We're going

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from a four units to five. It's not too

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drastic and it's going to be a

11:33

significant improvement. So, yeah, I

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have no concerns.

11:37

>> Commissioner,

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>> um just a question on the size of the

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units like how many bedrooms would they

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be in?

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>> Um

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I don't recall because all these were

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existing. Um let me see. I know cuz I

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went into into the one it was or

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actually I went to to two over here. So

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one had three bedrooms, the other one

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had both these had three bedrooms.

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>> I'm not sure about these. They might be

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two two or three bedrooms.

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>> Commission.

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>> Yeah. Uh I do have a couple questions.

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Um uh well a clarification first. So

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the structure, it's three separate

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parcels. Three, three separate lots.

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>> Four.

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>> Four separate lots. Correct.

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>> And there's like one dwelling per lot

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except for the fourth one which has the

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mixed use.

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>> Yes.

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>> So the owner is purchasing has purchased

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>> all of them.

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>> Yes, he owns all all of them.

12:43

>> So okay. Did they submit a lot

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consolidation plan?

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>> Uh yes.

12:49

Okay, missed that part. Um, and then

12:54

chef, you mentioned about coordinating

12:55

with CRW for storm water, but they would

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need to submit a land development plan.

13:02

>> Uh, we wouldn't have a land development

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plan, meaning for the establishment of

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the parking.

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>> Well, if they're making this a larger

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lot and then putting like you're

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essentially you're consolidating these

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structures into one building and you're

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adding which is impervious area onto the

13:20

lot. Wouldn't that

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>> So for

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>> be a land development plan.

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>> So they're just I mean so they're doing

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the lot consolidation which is kind of a

13:28

land development plan. It's like a minor

13:30

land development plan. They're not

13:31

building any new structures on. They've

13:33

got these four buildings on separate

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parcels. And uh what this what this grew

13:38

out of was we got a this was brought to

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our attention again by the floodplane

13:42

zoning process that uh brought some

13:45

other uh uh conversions to our

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attention. Um and so in discussing it

13:50

with um the applicant, they were

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proposing to convert 1860 Walnut Street

13:56

to two units. And uh through the through

13:59

our coordination where where I told them

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well that requires a um special

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exception to create a multi family

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dwelling and there might be uh a

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variance for a leaf from the density. Uh

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he noted that the singular entity had

14:11

purchased all four of these properties.

14:13

And when you look at the four properties

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in total they would provide they would

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allow up to six units by right. So

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they're creating five there's going to

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be a five unit multi family dwelling but

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they're only really creating one

14:25

dwelling unit as part of this process.

14:28

And so they'll have one lot with five

14:29

units on it. We would consider that a

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multif family dwelling because you have

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five units on one lot. Um even though

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they're all already existing.

14:37

>> Yeah.

14:37

>> Um but then

14:38

>> you are increasing the impervious area

14:40

on that lot. Well, so they're going to I

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think with the recommended uh changes

14:47

from the case report, they'll actually

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reduce the overall impervious surface

14:51

because CRW considers gravel to be

14:53

impervious surface. It has to be

14:54

designed specially to handle storm water

14:56

for them to consider that uh pvious

14:59

surface. So, by removing the gravel

15:01

that's all over the kind of the backyard

15:03

right now, um, and just creating the

15:06

parking off the alley, uh, they would

15:08

actually, I think, reduce the overall,

15:10

uh, impervious surface area of the of

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the property.

15:14

>> Are you okay? So, you in your condition

15:17

talking about changing it to six head

15:19

spaces. Are you okay then? Like, are you

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basically saying granting any sort of

15:24

waiver if the parking spaces go into the

15:26

setbacks? Well, yeah, and that was the

15:28

that's the variance that's noted in um

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uh in the request there. It says and to

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construct required off- streetet parking

15:35

in a rear yard setback. So, that's what

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the variance is requesting there

15:39

>> for the way they have it current the way

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they're proposing to configure it.

15:43

>> Well, the proposal is I mean there's

15:45

varying uh non-conforming aspects there

15:49

of like having the gravel, not having

15:51

like line parking. um

15:56

you know, encroachment into setbacks

15:58

because they're all again different lot

16:00

lines until the lots are formerly

16:01

consolidated. Um but the proposal to

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just move that parking directly

16:06

accessible from Apricot Alley just

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requires that one zoning relief uh for

16:11

encroachment into the setback. They

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could in theory build like a 10-ft deep

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um driveway and then have an additional

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18 ft for the parking spaces and that

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would not be in the setback because

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driveways are permitted to across a um

16:25

setback area. Uh but that would also

16:27

waste a lot of the land to do something

16:29

like that. So we're just basically

16:31

saying remove the that driveway um that

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you would you know create to get around

16:36

the variance requirement and just put

16:37

those parking spaces in the rear yard.

16:44

or sorry the rear yard setback.

16:46

>> Can I add a note about that? Uh there

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there is a a utility pole in that area

16:52

too. So that might interfere with one of

16:55

the parking spaces

16:56

>> and if that interferes with one I think

16:58

yeah I did I did see that during the

16:59

site visit. I I think you'd be able to

17:01

still put like five on one side and and

17:04

one on the other or four on one side and

17:06

two on the other. So I think you'd still

17:07

be able to work

17:08

>> with that.

17:10

Um, re realistically we can get five

17:13

parking spaces there. So,

17:19

>> I have no other questions.

17:22

>> Commissioner Jordan.

17:24

>> Yes. Um, so in the picture here, you

17:27

have like I guess it's like a overhead

17:29

structure for parking spaces.

17:31

>> Yes. Is that going to be removed or

17:33

altered?

17:34

>> Yes, that's going to be removed. Um, I

17:36

was told that it wasn't permitted

17:38

originally, so we're gonna have it taken

17:40

down.

17:45

>> Commission Vincent.

17:48

>> No. Um, thanks for making the changes to

17:51

be in better conformance with the zoning

17:52

code.

17:53

>> Simple.

17:54

>> Okay. Uh, with that, we'll go to the

17:58

public. If anyone is for against this

18:01

project, please stand, state your name

18:04

and address. And I'll start to my left.

18:09

Senator

18:11

on the right. Okay. Commissioners,

18:15

can I get a motion?

18:20

>> Motion to approve conditions.

18:22

>> Is there a second?

18:24

>> Second.

18:24

>> It's been moved and second for the

18:26

approval of this project with

18:28

conditions. All those in favor state by

18:30

saying I

18:32

>> opposed.

18:34

Motion carry.

18:37

>> Thank you. do the work.

18:49

>> The item number three is a variance and

18:53

special application for 1257 and 1259.

18:59

Uh this is zone RM and is followed by

19:02

Arthur Jefferson with South Central

19:06

Pennsylvania Restoration LLC.

19:09

It's to consolidate the subject

19:11

properties and request the zoning relief

19:14

necessary to construct a six unit multif

19:17

family dwelling and to request relief

19:19

from the all street parking

19:21

requirements. Jeff.

19:23

>> Uh yep. So, the applicant is proposing

19:26

to consolidate the subject parcels and

19:28

construct a three-story six-unit multif

19:29

family dwelling with a rooftop patio

19:31

common area. This project requires

19:33

zoning hearing board approval of two

19:35

special exceptions for the proposed use

19:36

and relief from the off street parking

19:38

requirements per section 7-305.7

19:40

and 7-327.6

19:42

of the zoning code respectively and two

19:45

variances for relief from the density

19:46

and allowable building width regulations

19:48

in section 7-307.3

19:51

of the zoning code. Project will include

19:53

three one-bedroom units and three

19:55

two-bedroom units. The project site is

19:57

comprised of two vacant parcels totaling

20:00

06 acres which feature overgrown

20:02

vegetation at the rear of the lot.

20:04

Project site is bounded by Walnut Street

20:05

to the north, the property at 1261

20:07

Walnut Street to the east, the property

20:09

at 46 Lynden Street to the south, and a

20:12

narrow public right ofway to the west.

20:15

The planning bureau staff recommends the

20:18

request be approved with the following

20:20

conditions. Uh, the applicant must

20:22

submit a lot consolidation and land

20:24

development plan application and receive

20:25

approval from the planning commission

20:26

and city council. And the applicant must

20:29

receive approval from the Harrisburg

20:30

Architecture Review Board, which I

20:32

believe they did receive on Monday. Uh,

20:34

the planning bureau staff recommends the

20:36

request be approved for the following

20:38

reasons. The decadesl long vacancy of

20:39

the subject properties demonstrates the

20:41

challenges inherent in identifying

20:43

appropriate and feasible redevelopment

20:45

projects and thus supports the requested

20:47

relief for the development of a six-unit

20:48

multif family dwelling. The

20:50

configuration of the property with

20:51

limited frontage along public rights

20:53

ofway and surrounded on three sides with

20:55

developed lots presents challenges

20:57

regarding access to the property and

20:59

supports the requested relief from off-

21:00

streetet parking. The project will

21:02

improve currently vacant and

21:04

unmaintained lots with affordable units

21:05

that are pressing need in the city

21:07

generally and the neighborhood

21:08

specifically. The applicant also

21:10

responded to a solicitation from the

21:12

city for redevelopment of the site as

21:13

affordable housing which necessitates

21:16

additional relief from the zoning

21:17

regulations. And finally, the proposed

21:20

building design incorporates a number of

21:22

novel features for projects in the city,

21:24

including the incorporation of a rooftop

21:25

deck, green roof, and solar panel array.

21:28

The pro the property will also be

21:30

operated as a cooperative housing model

21:32

that will retain affordability over

21:34

time.

21:35

>> Thank you, John. Could you state your

21:37

names, address, and relationship to the

21:40

project?

21:43

>> Can you speak?

21:44

>> Uh, press the button on there. Yeah.

21:47

Thank you. I'm Duran Sawyers, uh,

21:49

co-owner of South Central PA

21:51

Restoration.

21:55

I'm sorry. Address 1400 Karen Drive,

21:57

Harrisburg, PA.

22:01

My name is Arthur Jefferson. My address

22:03

is 1952 Manitor Street. And I again the

22:07

co-owner of South Central PA

22:09

Restoration, which will serve as the

22:11

general contractor and the developer of

22:14

the project.

22:16

>> Okay. You both heard the staff report.

22:19

Are you acceptable of the three

22:21

conditions?

22:23

>> Yes. Yes.

22:24

>> Do you want to add anything to the

22:26

report?

22:28

>> Um, please approve.

22:31

[laughter]

22:32

>> I

22:37

Okay, with that at this time, I have no

22:39

questions yet. So, I'll start with

22:41

Commissioner. Any questions, concerns?

22:43

Yeah. Yeah. Jeffrey, real quick, can you

22:45

outline the the relief being sought here

22:47

again?

22:49

>> What's that? Sorry.

22:50

>> Can you uh explain the relief being

22:53

sought real quick for me?

22:54

>> Yeah, sure. So, um because the

22:56

properties are in the RM zoning

22:57

district, multif family dwelling

22:59

requires a special exception. Um,

23:01

additionally, uh, because they cannot

23:03

provide, uh, off- streetet parking on

23:04

the property, they will require relief

23:07

from, um, the three units that would be

23:09

require that would be required if it's

23:11

submitted under the city's um,

23:13

affordable housing program. And if not,

23:15

it would be six uh, off- streetet

23:16

parking spaces that would be uh, require

23:18

relief. Um, and then as far as the

23:20

variances are concerned, uh, the project

23:22

is more dense uh, than would be

23:24

permitted by Wright in the RM district

23:26

um, even with uh, the affordable units.

23:29

Um and uh the building is also wider

23:32

than the 20 is more than 20% uh of the

23:35

prevailing width of structures on the

23:37

block.

23:38

>> All right. And what's the density? What

23:40

numbers we dealing with there?

23:41

>> Uh I believe they would have been able

23:42

to provide uh or they could have um

23:45

constructed two units by right and

23:46

they're proposing six units.

23:48

>> All right. Yeah. Yeah. In spite of that,

23:50

it looks like a great project. You have

23:51

to attracted voting. Hope that's what

23:54

ends up there. So yeah, I'm in favor.

24:00

I'm just curious about the nonprofit

24:03

that's mentioned in the application.

24:06

>> Big US or US Big Us?

24:09

>> Big US workbased training. Yes.

24:11

>> Okay. Can you tell me a little bit about

24:12

the nonprofit and the relationship to

24:13

the project here?

24:16

>> Um so,

24:19

uh we are from the city of Harrisburg um

24:23

and South Central PA Restoration. how we

24:26

started that myself and Arthur um we it

24:29

was us and some guys from our community

24:32

and uh we so what we did over time we

24:35

kind of trained them and showed them a

24:37

trade and so we seen families uh the

24:41

improvement of them especially the

24:43

fathers in the house and they be able to

24:45

support. So we like, man, we we're doing

24:47

all of this from the muscle. So why not

24:51

try to get some assistance from funding

24:53

and start a nonprofit to do the same

24:55

thing and which we already know is

24:57

successful because we're actually doing

24:59

it. So we do a lot of work for the city

25:00

of Harrisburg and uh other counties as

25:03

well. So that's how we started the

25:05

nonprofit and with that idea in mind.

25:08

>> Okay.

25:08

>> Yes, ma'am.

25:11

>> Uh Commissioner M.

25:15

I appreciate seeing an infill uh

25:17

development project. So that's really

25:22

really good to see. And I don't have any

25:24

questions about the plans that

25:27

presented. So uh I'm curious if um you

25:31

were able to reach out to your neighbors

25:33

uh surrounding community and get any

25:35

feedback.

25:37

>> We we sent the letters out and um I

25:41

received one phone call and the lady

25:43

just was inquiring about what what's

25:45

going to happen, who are we going to

25:47

have in the property. Uh she was more

25:49

concerned that we were bringing in um

25:51

like like homeless homeless people on

25:54

the property, turning into a project,

25:56

let's let's say, but um we assured her

25:59

that that's not the direction that we

26:00

looking to go and um she said, "Okay."

26:05

>> Okay. Thank you,

26:09

>> Commissioner George.

26:11

>> Yes. Um, so to confirm this has been

26:15

submitted to the affordable housing

26:16

program,

26:18

>> um, I don't, uh, well, they didn't have

26:20

anything in, um, the actual application

26:23

that said like we intend on doing this,

26:25

but they're also, uh, talking about

26:27

ensuring the long-term affordability of

26:29

the property and also using a co-op

26:31

model. And so I'm not sure if maybe that

26:33

model uh maybe complicates it a little

26:36

bit because it won't necessarily be like

26:38

a rental uh unit, you know, like I think

26:40

as part of the co-op you like own part

26:42

of the building too. Um and so that

26:44

might complicate it and I'm not sure

26:46

frankly how our affordable housing

26:49

program would view something like that.

26:50

Maybe it's a bit different. Um, so, uh,

26:54

I didn't want to presume it would be

26:58

filed through that, but, um, if they do

27:00

file through that, that could be

27:02

certainly something that's addressed

27:03

through the land de development

27:04

application.

27:08

>> The only other question I had is um,

27:09

what is the average square footage of

27:11

each size unit?

27:14

>> About a thousand square feet

27:16

>> for for both the one and two bedrooms.

27:19

>> Yes.

27:21

>> Thank you.

27:23

Commissioner Vincent.

27:26

>> Um, no questions on a technical aspect

27:28

on the application. Um, on a personal

27:30

note, you know, great great job with

27:32

this project. This this is a really good

27:34

uh a good way to get, you know, housing

27:36

in, get that development, and I love

27:38

co-op models. You know, I've read about

27:40

them before. It is a good way to get

27:42

people to transition into home

27:44

ownership, um, and having something in

27:46

between. So, it's a really good project.

27:49

Hope you guys

27:51

a chance to come back. Thank you.

27:55

>> With that, I'll go to the public again.

27:58

>> Yes. Sorry.

28:00

>> Just because it's not clear to me. So,

28:01

is the is the off street parking relief

28:05

we're not requiring any?

28:07

>> That that'd be correct. It'd be a full

28:09

relief for off parking. Yeah.

28:11

>> I wasn't sure if you're saying they're

28:12

going to provide three

28:14

affordable housing or

28:16

>> is what they would be required to have.

28:19

But this plan, the relief is asking to

28:22

complete relief.

28:22

>> Yep.

28:25

>> No, that's it. I just wanted to

28:27

>> I thought about that after you said

28:29

that.

28:30

>> So glad you asked. Uh we'll go to the

28:33

public and uh if you have any concerns

28:36

or about this project or questions, Dan

28:40

and state your name and address. I'll

28:42

start to

28:44

senator one person there.

28:49

Commissioners

28:51

get a motion. I think this this other

28:53

commission said I think it's a great

28:54

project and the co-op is really great.

28:58

We need more of that in the city and the

29:01

building looks very will definitely

29:04

brighten up the neighborhood

29:07

which is very good.

29:10

So with that commissioners, could I get

29:12

a motion here?

29:15

>> Approve with conditions.

29:17

>> Is there a second?

29:19

>> Second.

29:20

>> Second for approval of this project with

29:22

three conditions. All those in favor

29:24

state. I

29:26

>> opposed

29:29

carried.

29:31

Good luck.

29:32

>> Thank you. Thank you guys.

29:46

Under new business, this is uh item

29:50

number four. This is a variance and

29:52

special uh special exception application

29:56

for 1531 and 1533 North 63 zone

30:02

IMS institutional

30:05

as followed by Penn State Health. This

30:08

is to construct an accessory use on-site

30:11

development to setback areas and

30:14

construct a fence taller than permitted

30:16

by right?

30:18

>> Yep. Uh so the applicant is proposing to

30:20

create an outdoor therapeutic playground

30:22

facility on the subject properties for

30:25

exclusive use by patients of the

30:27

adjacent medical offices at 1524 Wallace

30:29

Street which is an accessory use

30:31

function as the principal use of the

30:33

property and involves the construction

30:35

of a basketball court and playground

30:36

equipment that will encroach into the

30:38

side and rear yard setbacks which both

30:40

require zoning hearing board approval of

30:42

a variance application. The project will

30:44

also involve installation of a 10-ft

30:46

high fence which requires zoning hearing

30:47

board approval of a special exception

30:49

application for fence exceeding the

30:51

maximum 6 ft in height in the INS

30:53

district. Uh the proper the project site

30:55

is comprised of two vacant parcels

30:57

totaling 04 acres which feature unckempt

31:00

vegetation, a row of low shrubbery along

31:03

the side and rear property lines and

31:05

small and a small fenced enclosure in

31:07

the southeastern corner. The project

31:09

site is bounded by the property at 1535

31:12

North 6th Street to the north.

31:13

Properties at 1521 North 6th Street to

31:16

the south and east and north 6th Street

31:19

to the west.

31:21

The planning bureau staff recommends the

31:23

request be approved for the following

31:25

reasons. The existing configuration of

31:27

the development site, particularly the

31:29

narrow width and shallow depth, would

31:31

require relief for any type of

31:33

development on site. and the proposed

31:35

development represents a sensible use of

31:36

the lot given the low inensity use and

31:38

proximity to the principal use which it

31:41

will support. The lots have been vacant

31:43

for at at least 30 years and given the

31:47

location between a an accessory parking

31:49

lot and long-standing restaurant

31:52

establishment. The proposed development

31:53

represents the most feasible and

31:54

reasonable proposal to activate the lots

31:56

and improve their contribution to the

31:58

streetscape. And finally, the project

32:00

will complement a medical outpatient

32:02

clinic that provides services to adults

32:04

and adolescence receiving treatment for

32:06

emotional, psychological, and cognitive

32:08

issues. And we'll provide an interactive

32:10

outdoor setting that facilitates their

32:12

physical and mental health.

32:15

>> Thank you, Jeff. Could you state your

32:16

name, address, and relationship to the

32:19

project?

32:20

>> Yes. Good evening. Uh James Strong with

32:22

Mcnes Wallace and Nurk 100 Pine Street

32:24

in the city of Harrisburg. and uh we are

32:26

the attorneys for the applicant. Um and

32:29

then also with me tonight uh are Kevin

32:32

Kufa and David Deloo with Penn State

32:34

Health and Jeffrey Shik with K&W

32:37

Engineers.

32:38

>> Okay. Um

32:43

give me just a little more background on

32:46

your connection with Penn State and

32:50

>> Sure. I'll give you a little bit of uh

32:52

background and uh then if there are any

32:54

questions uh the folks on the team will

32:57

be uh happy to answer those questions

32:58

for you. Um but Penn State Health

33:01

operating as the Pennsylvania

33:03

Psychiatric Institute will be operating

33:05

an outpatient clinic on land uh located

33:08

on North Sixth Street and Wallace

33:10

Street. So that would just be to the

33:11

north of the federal courthouse

33:14

building, the new federal courthouse

33:15

building. Um that clinic includes

33:18

adolescent support uh as part of its

33:20

child uh partial program. And so

33:23

children will come to the clinic um for

33:26

uh varying parts of the day and as part

33:29

of that uh therapeutic uh programming

33:32

for the children. Um the clinic wants to

33:35

have a playground area uh for those

33:38

children uh to go out and uh have

33:41

outdoor uh therapeutic time. Um, the

33:44

playground would be for the exclusive

33:46

use of the clinic's uh patients. They

33:49

would always be accompanied by staff

33:51

escorted from the clinic building to the

33:55

uh playground building. Um, and so the

33:57

relief is is tied to sort of the unique

34:00

nature of these two very narrow parcels

34:04

uh that would be combined, but even at

34:06

their uh combined width, it would be a

34:08

maximum width of 31 ft. Um, so the

34:12

zoning relief relates to the unique

34:14

nature of those parcels. First is that

34:16

the parcels are separated from the

34:18

clinic parcel. So even though this is an

34:21

accessory use to the outpatient clinic,

34:24

um, it's not on the same parcel as that

34:26

principal outpatient clinic use. So

34:29

that's the reason for that request for

34:31

relief is to allow the accessory use to

34:33

be located on a nearby property as

34:35

opposed to being on the same property as

34:37

the principal use, which here is the uh,

34:39

clinic. The uh second request uh relates

34:43

to the side and rear setbacks. So those

34:46

side setbacks are 20 feet on each side

34:49

and the rear is 20 feet. As I mentioned,

34:52

even when we consolidate these two

34:53

parcels, at its widest, the parcel is

34:56

only 31 ft in width. So we can't meet

34:58

those uh requirements. So uh we are

35:01

requesting relief uh to allow the

35:03

proposed playground equipment as

35:05

depicted on the plan. And then the last

35:08

request for relief relates to the height

35:11

of the fence that would be proposed to

35:13

surround uh the playground. Um that

35:16

maximum permitted height is six feet,

35:18

but the zoning ordinance does allow by

35:20

special exception for that fence height

35:22

to be increased. And so the proposed

35:24

fence height is 10 ft and then there

35:26

would be a netting over the top uh of

35:29

that um uh fenced area. So, the idea is

35:33

prevent any unauthorized access into the

35:36

playground area and then also keep any

35:38

balls and other equipment inside uh the

35:41

playground area. So, that's the the

35:43

relief that's requested by the

35:45

application. Um, and so we're here to

35:49

answer any questions that folks on the

35:51

planning commission or members of the

35:52

public might have.

35:54

>> Jeff, as far as the fencing, that's a

35:58

special exception. Yeah, they actually

36:01

uh pointed out uh a section in the

36:03

zoning code which I had previously been

36:05

treating as a variance and and they

36:07

noted that it allowed for um extended

36:09

height via special exception instead of

36:11

the variance. So um you know I don't

36:14

always bet a thousand. So uh they uh

36:17

they corrected me on that and that's uh

36:19

where the um special exception request

36:21

is coming from. Okay,

36:24

>> before I have any questions, the

36:26

gentleman just joined you. State your

36:28

name, address, and relation to the

36:31

project.

36:32

>> I'm Jeff Shik. I'm with K&W Engineers,

36:34

and we're the uh con you were the civil

36:37

engineer for the project.

36:42

>> Thanks, Kevin Kufa, Penn State Health,

36:45

100 Crystal A Drive, Hershey.

36:50

>> Dave Deloo, Penn State Health, 100

36:52

Crystal A Drive in Hershey as well.

36:56

Um, since there are no conditions here,

37:00

uh, I have no questions at this time

37:02

unless you don't want to add anything to

37:05

the report.

37:06

>> No, I think Jeff covered everything very

37:09

well in the case report. Uh, and as

37:11

noted, no conditions uh, were proposed.

37:14

So, nothing for us to discuss there

37:17

either. So,

37:19

>> okay. Commissioners, this is pretty

37:21

straightforward, but do you have any

37:23

questions, concerns?

37:26

>> Yeah. Uh, has Penn State been operating

37:29

there or are they just now starting the

37:32

operation?

37:32

>> They will be um I think in August is

37:35

>> Yeah, beginning of August.

37:37

>> So, they need

37:38

>> it's under construction right now. need

37:40

to finish construction, get their

37:41

certificate of occupancy, but the the uh

37:44

goaler plan is to be uh operating in

37:46

August of this year.

37:47

>> All right.

37:48

>> Yeah. Yeah, that's great. I'm glad to

37:49

see them relocate the six feet. I'm not

37:51

going to let four feet of fencing stand

37:53

in.

37:54

One other question, James, what's what's

37:57

up with Ash? He's he hasn't been here

37:58

over here. [laughter]

38:00

>> Well, believe me, I'm pulling double

38:01

duty. I have the next application as

38:03

well.

38:04

>> Is he so Braxton? I mean, seriously, he

38:06

hasn't been here.

38:07

>> No, he's triple booked tonight. I'll get

38:09

it. [laughter] Busy man. Nothing for

38:15

>> I have no questions.

38:18

>> Yeah, I think uh this is a innovative

38:21

way to use a very uh difficult space. Um

38:24

and it's it's nice to see it being put

38:26

to a beneficial use, you know, for folks

38:28

that would need it. Um I I don't think I

38:30

have any issues with the height of the

38:32

fence and it you mentioned that

38:36

additional top portion that would have

38:38

the screening on it. The rest would be

38:40

sort of that open chain link fence we're

38:41

typically seeing.

38:44

>> Actually, the um

38:44

>> the whole thing is mesh.

38:48

three quart threequarters of the of the

38:50

vertical fence will have the screening

38:53

um or you know it's going to be either

38:55

the fabric is shown on the plan or you

38:57

know the the chain link slats but that

38:59

will be from um from bottom to top to

39:03

the 10 foot level except for on the very

39:06

I think it's the eastern most side which

39:08

would allow visibility from the actual

39:12

building um that the users of of the

39:15

playground would become coming from that

39:16

way there's additional you know um sight

39:19

lines from the building to see you know

39:21

what's occurring on the playground.

39:23

>> Okay. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. All

39:25

right. Um it looks like on

39:29

the let's see void street side that is

39:33

full in parking indicated on the

39:36

drawings there.

39:37

>> Uh

39:38

>> so are the ballards being installed sort

39:41

of as a safety measure?

39:44

My eyes aren't great, Jeff. So, I'm like

39:46

look squinting at this Jeff um this

39:50

plan.

39:52

>> Don't appreciate your

39:54

>> Sorry, Commissioner Merrick. Where are

39:56

you referring?

39:56

>> Yeah. So, on the Boyd Street side where

39:58

it's pulling parking.

40:00

>> Yes.

40:00

>> Are there I can't see super well. So,

40:02

the plan is it new ballards being

40:05

proposed along that side sort of as a

40:07

safety measure.

40:08

>> Right. They will be. Yes.

40:09

>> Yeah. Okay. All right. because it looks

40:11

like that chain link fence is going

40:13

right up against against there. Okay.

40:15

>> Well, and I would I would also um note

40:17

that I'm guessing there's going to be

40:18

like a low retaining wall because

40:20

there's some um topographical change

40:24

across that. So, you probably have to

40:25

infill the back of the lot there to

40:27

build the thing on top of it. So, they

40:28

want to prevent people from running into

40:30

that.

40:31

>> Yeah. Okay. All right. No other

40:33

questions. Thanks.

40:35

>> Uh Commissioner Jordan

40:38

covered everything.

40:42

Commissioner Vincent.

40:44

>> Okay.

40:47

>> Again, I'll go to the public. 314

40:50

against this project. Please stand. I'll

40:52

start to my left.

40:58

Okay. Commissioner, as I said before,

41:01

this is pretty straightforward. Can I

41:03

get a motion?

41:04

>> Motion to approve.

41:06

>> Is there a second?

41:07

>> Second.

41:07

>> It's been moved. Second for approval

41:10

with no conditions. All those in favor

41:12

state by saying I.

41:14

>> I oppose and abstensions. Merry.

41:18

>> Thank you very much.

41:32

>> This is item number five. Um

41:36

this is a special applications for nine

41:41

lots in and around the intersection of

41:44

North 16th Street and Crab Apple Street.

41:48

Uh this was done RMI

41:51

Gerard Miller J Miller with TLC. It's a

41:56

workbased training program to construct

41:59

multif family buildings on the subject

42:02

properties to request relief from the

42:04

off street parking requirements in

42:06

section 7-327.6

42:10

of the zoning code and to request relief

42:12

from various aspect of development

42:15

standards.

42:17

>> Uh yep. So, uh the uh request is the

42:20

applicant is proposing to um construct

42:24

34 units across uh

42:28

nine different scattered sites uh within

42:31

the uh area generally bounded by uh

42:34

North 16th Street, North 15th Street and

42:36

Regina Street. Um, and they are

42:39

requesting relief from uh for both the

42:42

to construct the multif family dwellings

42:44

on the subject properties and to request

42:46

relief from the off- streetet parking

42:48

requirements in section 7-327.6

42:50

of the zoning code. Uh, and to construct

42:52

buildings wider than 20% of the

42:54

prevailing width on the block. uh to

42:57

construct units which require uh relief

43:00

from the front yard setbacks and to

43:01

construct parking spaces in the rear

43:03

yard setbacks uh which will not have the

43:06

required parking lot screening. Um the

43:09

applicant is seeking to develop 34

43:11

affordable housing units in development

43:14

involving 17 buildings across nine

43:16

consolidated lots. Uh the development

43:19

will consist of four one-bedroom units,

43:21

10 two-bedroom units, and 19

43:23

three-bedroom units in town home,

43:25

duplex, and triplex uh configurations

43:28

constructed across the various sites. Um

43:31

the applicant is also proposing

43:33

construction of accessory parking and

43:34

storm water management at various

43:36

locations within the development

43:38

footprint.

43:42

So the uh applicant uh the is also

43:46

seeking approval of the following

43:47

variances. So relief from section

43:49

7-307.3A

43:51

of the zoning code to construct a

43:52

building wider than 20 ft than 20% of

43:55

the prevailing width in the block and

43:56

that's applicable to lot 5 uh to request

43:59

relief from section 7-307.3A

44:03

of the zoning code to permit full

44:04

encroachment into the 5-ft front yard

44:06

setback that is also applicable to lot

44:08

5. uh to request relief from section

44:11

7-307.3A

44:13

of the zoning code to permit full

44:14

encroachment into the 4foot sideyard

44:16

setbacks and that's applicable to lots

44:19

six 7 and 9. Uh to request relief from

44:23

section 7-327.9A

44:26

of the zoning code to permit parking

44:28

encroachment into the required rear yard

44:30

setbacks along Crab Apple Street and

44:32

that request is applicable to lots

44:34

number four and nine. Uh and finally to

44:37

the extent necessary to request relief

44:39

from section 7-307.13

44:41

of the zoning code to authorize the

44:43

removal of trees with trunk diameters of

44:45

12 in or more. Uh and that's applicable

44:47

to lots number four 6 and 9. Uh the uh

44:52

project site uh is form is comprised of

44:57

34 separate parcels uh spread across

45:00

nine blocks along North 16th Street

45:03

between Walnut Street in the north and

45:04

Crab Apple Street in the south along

45:05

Crab Apple Street between North 16th

45:07

Street and Chain Street and along North

45:09

15th Street between Crab Apple Street

45:11

and Ethel Street. Uh and to um obviate

45:15

saying the same thing over again,

45:17

essentially each of these lots uh is uh

45:20

largely vacant. Uh most have uh low

45:23

grass coverage. Some have um some mature

45:25

trees and uh undergrowth uh on them and

45:28

occasionally some of the lots are used

45:31

uh for uh illegal parking u by residents

45:34

of the neighborhood.

45:38

The planning bureau recommends the

45:41

request be repro approved with the

45:44

following conditions. Uh if granted

45:46

approval for the requested zoning

45:47

relief, the applicant will subsequently

45:49

file a lot consolidation and land

45:51

development plan and receive approval

45:52

from the planning commission and city

45:53

council. Uh because the project will be

45:56

restricted to residents earning 60% of

45:58

the median family income and is

46:00

therefore eligible for a certificate of

46:01

qualification pursuant to chapter 12-101

46:04

of title 12. The applicant should submit

46:06

the project through the affordable

46:07

housing certification prior to recording

46:10

the lot consolidation and land

46:11

development plan with the Dolphin County

46:12

Recorder of Deeds. Uh the applicant

46:15

should reconstruct all sidewalks along

46:17

North 16th Street, Regina Street, and

46:19

North 15th Street to the full width

46:21

between the curb and property lines as

46:23

the current configuration of those

46:25

streets and will provide safer and

46:26

improved pedestrian infrastructure for

46:28

new residents of the proposed

46:29

development and existing residents of

46:31

the neighborhood as well as curb

46:32

bumpouts at corner lots along North 16th

46:35

Street, Regina Street, and North 15th

46:37

Street. similar to what was installed

46:38

along the 15th street frontage of the

46:40

previous phase of the project. The

46:42

applicant should also consider measures

46:43

to prevent illegal sidewalk parking

46:45

parking such as street trees. And

46:47

finally, the applicant should install

46:49

fencing and closing undeveloped areas

46:51

around the proposed buildings to prevent

46:52

unauthorized access and unpermitted

46:54

activities such as illegal parking and

46:56

dumping to create more functional space

46:58

for project residents and to enhance the

47:00

aesthetic impact of the project. The

47:03

bureau also recommends coordinating with

47:04

the city arburstone plantings to improve

47:06

the appearance and ecological function

47:07

of the project sites. The bureau

47:09

recommends that for every tree removed

47:12

uh on lots 4, six, and 9, uh the

47:14

applicants plan a new one in a tree pit

47:16

located within the public right ofway as

47:18

space on each development site will be

47:20

limited. Plan B staff recommends the

47:22

request be approved for the following

47:23

reasons. The proposed project will

47:25

develop lots that are currently vacant,

47:26

unckempt, and or utilized for

47:28

unpermitted uses such as illegal parking

47:30

or dumping and create affordable housing

47:32

units for the city's residents in a

47:33

variety of configurations, including

47:35

multi-bedroom and ADA units.

47:38

The subject properties comprising the

47:40

project site lack adequate pedestrian

47:42

infrastructure,

47:43

which creates unpleasant and unsafe

47:45

conditions that have an adverse impact

47:46

on the surrounding community. and the

47:48

project will enhance the streetscape for

47:50

existing and future residents by

47:51

providing wide shaded sidewalks if the

47:53

planning bureau's recommendations are

47:55

adopted. The zoning relief requested by

47:57

the applicant, such as relief to allow

47:59

rear yard parking or to encroach into

48:01

setbacks, which allows the construction

48:03

of units up to lot lines, will better

48:05

reflect the existing nature of the built

48:06

environment and the surrounding blocks.

48:08

Thus, these requests are necessary to

48:10

develop a project that integrates into

48:11

the building and infrastructure fabric

48:13

of the community. And finally, as

48:15

evidenced by the appearance and success

48:16

of the first phase of the applicant's

48:18

development along North 15th Street, the

48:20

project will bring significant social,

48:21

economic, and aesthetic benefits to the

48:23

neighborhood, providing affordable

48:24

housing and modern construction that

48:26

improves the streetscape and brings new

48:28

residents who will activate the street

48:30

on nights and weekends and will support

48:32

local businesses.

48:36

>> Thank you, Jeff. Could you gentlemen

48:38

state your name, address, relationship

48:41

to the project?

48:42

>> Sure. Uh again, Jamie Strong, Mcnes

48:45

Wallace, and Nurk, attorneys for the

48:46

applicant. Uh 100 Pine Street in

48:49

Harrisburg,

48:53

owner of the project

48:56

construction, TLC,

49:04

my address 2335 Dair Street, Harrisburg.

49:11

Matt Witters with Useless Engineering,

49:13

161 South 32nd Street in Campill, PA. We

49:16

are the civil engineering firm for the

49:18

uh applicant.

49:20

>> Eric Aring Ka Design Studio, 27 South

49:23

Main Street, Amler, PA 19002. We are the

49:26

architects for the project.

49:28

>> Okay. Uh gentlemen, you heard the u

49:31

staff report. Are you acceptable of the

49:34

four conditions?

49:36

>> Yeah, the uh case report is very

49:38

thorough. Um the uh conditions um there

49:42

are two that uh Matt will probably have

49:45

some additional conversations with Jeff

49:47

about. Um first the sidewalk and and the

49:50

curb um bumpouts and we can certainly do

49:53

those where we have the right to install

49:55

those improvements. Um and then the uh

49:59

the fencing. Um I don't believe there's

50:01

fencing in the first phase. Um, and so

50:05

we weren't sure if that would meant

50:07

fence in each of the properties, which

50:10

would be introducing something different

50:12

than what's there, but we can certainly

50:13

work with with Jeff on that and and have

50:15

those discussions before the zoning

50:16

hearing board.

50:18

>> Yeah. And, you know, I noticed there's a

50:20

lot of uh, you know, interstitial space

50:22

around uh, these units, especially for

50:24

some of the uh, lots that are more uh,

50:29

unusually configured like the triangular

50:30

lots on North 16th Street. Um, and as we

50:34

were walking around doing the site

50:35

visits and posting the property, you

50:36

know, we noticed that, for example, the

50:39

um, storm water catchment area for one

50:42

of the phase one sites is kind of wide

50:44

open and, you know, somebody could get

50:45

into it. I know in the discussion of

50:48

1605 to 1613 Market Street that was

50:51

reviewed earlier, they had talked about,

50:53

you know, putting a fence around that to

50:55

make sure that people couldn't get into

50:56

it. And so we're trying to look we're

50:58

trying to look to provide you know site

51:00

uh and access control which you know

51:02

helps to define the spaces a bit more

51:04

and again prevent somebody from just

51:06

driving up into the back of one of these

51:07

properties and just start parking there.

51:10

Um I mean if you go around the

51:12

neighborhood today even in the lots

51:14

around where they've finished the

51:16

buildings for lot one you still have

51:17

people just like parking on the vacant

51:19

lots there. So, so to provide that and

51:21

again to provide a bit more maybe

51:22

security uh and uh establish, you know,

51:25

the bounds of these different properties

51:27

and units, uh we recommend doing fences.

51:30

If they don't want to do fences, maybe a

51:32

bit more of a robust uh you know,

51:34

vegetated cover, planting tree screening

51:36

or something like that just to prevent,

51:38

you know, people just kind of using

51:40

these spaces behind the buildings or

51:43

beside the buildings uh for something

51:45

other than what they were intended for.

51:48

Did you hear?

51:51

>> Yeah. Again, it's not that we have

51:52

opposition to what what Jeff is

51:54

requesting in those conditions. So,

51:55

we'll we'll certainly work with him to

51:57

to address those concerns uh prior to

51:59

the zoning hearing board hearing. And if

52:01

it turns out that that fencing is what's

52:03

best, then that can be provided.

52:05

>> And and usually I don't and usually we

52:07

don't even include stuff about like the

52:09

sidewalks um and you know the fences in

52:12

like a zoning relief one.

52:14

put that in the land development plan

52:16

application, but kind of felt that uh

52:18

putting it up front at the beginning of

52:20

this process might help to ensure that

52:22

it goes a little bit smoothly as they

52:23

develop the lock consolidation and land

52:25

development plan. So that's not

52:26

something that like causes a snag in

52:29

that submission.

52:32

>> Um Jeff, just to understand the parking

52:36

again

52:36

>> since this is under the affordable act,

52:39

that's what I call it. Um

52:42

>> there's 34 minutes, but they only

52:45

required to have to have like 17 unit 17

52:49

parking spaces. Correct.

52:51

>> Correct. They'd have to have 17 overall

52:53

uh parking spaces and they have 10. Um

52:56

and so they would be required they're

52:59

requesting relief from seven off street

53:00

parking spaces. Uh and as we noted in

53:02

the case report, you know, there's all

53:04

of these lots are currently vacant. So,

53:06

um you know, there's a lot of frontage

53:08

on of on street parking. there's easy

53:10

availability to, you know, access on

53:13

street parking uh around uh 16th Street

53:15

and Regina Street especially. Um and uh

53:20

um there are bus routes that they don't

53:22

go adjacent to the project sites, but

53:24

there are bus routes nearby on 13th

53:26

Street, State Street, and Market Street.

53:29

Um as well as 17th. So they're kind of

53:31

kind of sitting in the middle of that

53:32

box. So they have access to both on

53:35

street parking um and uh mass transit

53:38

routes in the surrounding neighborhood.

53:40

>> Okay. Thanks. Um could you gentlemen uh

53:45

speak to the neighborhood neighbors at

53:46

all of that department?

53:51

>> Yes.

53:53

>> Yes, we did. We sent um letters out um

53:58

most of the stuff we already own. So,

54:01

uh, nobody gave us any feedback.

54:04

>> And you said the feedback was positive

54:06

or

54:07

>> I didn't get any feedback, but then the

54:09

residents loved what I did the phase

54:11

one, so they on board what I'm doing

54:13

again for phase two.

54:16

>> So, they loved it.

54:18

>> Okay. Uh, commissioners, I have no more

54:21

questions at this time and we'll go to

54:24

Commissioner with any concerns or

54:26

questions.

54:27

>> No, no concerns, no questions. a great

54:29

project. I like to see all this

54:30

construction going on in Allison Hill

54:32

>> and uh you know with the affordable

54:34

housing uh crisis that we're in that you

54:37

got to be a little more lax and

54:38

deviating seven parking spaces isn't a

54:41

problem I don't see. So yeah I support

54:43

it

54:47

commission

54:48

>> I concur

54:51

commission

54:52

>> yeah I would uh concur as well um a lot

54:55

of good development in here and you know

54:58

revitalizing vacant lots in field

55:00

development. It's It's good to see. So,

55:02

I was kind of in agreement like we

55:05

wouldn't typically be talking about

55:07

fencing in these places, but I think I

55:09

can understand why. Um given that so we

55:14

have these other are those vacant lots

55:16

also owned by the redevelopment

55:18

authority

55:19

>> kind of in the mix here.

55:20

>> I think some are, some aren't. Um, so

55:23

for example on the 16th Street uh lot

55:26

number two, you'll notice that's like

55:27

cut up into two separate triangles. And

55:29

I'm guessing they couldn't secure the

55:31

ownership of the one little parcel

55:32

between those otherwise they would have,

55:34

you know, consolidated them all into one

55:35

lot and built probably uh facing more

55:38

units facing 16th Street there. So yeah,

55:40

I think probably the other um, you know,

55:42

lots that are interspersed around here

55:44

are just under separate ownership.

55:46

>> Okay.

55:48

Um,

55:52

and then the the parking I don't have an

55:56

issue with the relief for seven spots. I

55:58

think my confusion or question was it

56:01

sounds like like on the one hand there

56:03

should be ample amount of parking given

56:05

this area has a lot of vacant lots. But

56:07

then the other hand in tonight I'm

56:09

hearing there's a lot of cars parking on

56:12

these lots. So do they not have enough

56:14

space to park? What is necessitating the

56:17

need to park on the street if there's

56:20

ample parking,

56:21

>> right? Um well, I mean that's a great

56:23

question. I think uh you know I think

56:25

especially I would say the parking was

56:28

more of an issue um along North 15th

56:30

Street than it was like along North 16th

56:32

Street. The North 16th Street uh and

56:34

Regina Street properties like really

56:36

didn't feature any of that. But if you

56:38

go um down to the lot eight, I believe

56:42

um which is just north of Market Street

56:44

there and uh lot 7, there is a lot of

56:47

parking there even though there's

56:49

parking available on the street. And I

56:51

think some of that comes down to, you

56:53

know, we hear a lot of times why people

56:54

are like parked up on the sidewalk.

56:55

They're worried about somebody clipping

56:57

their mirror as they go through. Um, and

57:00

so I think I think it's just a kind of

57:03

um, you know, mental thing where people

57:05

feel safer with their car off the street

57:07

even though there are spaces there. They

57:09

just feel better if it's on a lot there.

57:11

Um, and so that would be my guess as to

57:14

why that condition occurs when there's

57:16

available on street parking.

57:18

>> Yeah. Just want to make sure there

57:19

wasn't some a need that we needed to

57:22

address in that neighborhood, right? Not

57:24

separate from the project, but

57:26

>> All right. Thank you,

57:28

>> Commission.

57:30

No questions. Just happy to see a

57:32

project with so many larger size

57:34

departments. So, thank you.

57:36

>> Uh, Commissioner Vincent.

57:38

>> Yeah. Likewise. No questions. Great

57:40

project.

57:41

>> Okay. We'll go to the public. If you

57:44

have any concerns,

57:46

any objections to the project, please

57:49

stand.

57:51

We'll start to

57:55

people mostly now.

57:58

>> [clears throat]

58:00

>> Can I get a motion?

58:04

>> Motion to approve.

58:06

>> Is there a second?

58:08

>> It's been moved and second for approval

58:10

of this project with the four

58:11

conditions. All those in favor state by

58:14

saying I

58:15

>> opposed obsessions

58:18

and motion car.

58:19

>> Thank you.

58:43

Uh we're at uh item number six. This is

58:46

a lot consolidation and LDP application

58:50

for 112 North 13th Street.

58:54

and 105 through 121 Lynon Street. This

58:57

is zone RM is followed by

59:00

Dred Neil with Aton Horizon Group LLC

59:06

and it consolidate the 13 parcels

59:09

comprising the project site, convert the

59:12

former book publishing building into a

59:14

12 unit multi- family multifamily

59:18

dwelling and to construct additional

59:20

accessory parking and associated

59:23

improvements look like.

59:25

>> Uh yep. So this uh application is the

59:28

land development component of the zoning

59:30

relief uh application that was submitted

59:33

I believe back in January. Um so uh this

59:37

will be the final step in this project

59:38

uh moving forward. Um, the applicant is

59:40

proposing to consolidate the 13 parcels

59:42

comprising the project site uh along

59:45

North 13th Street and Lynen Street,

59:47

convert the former book publishing

59:48

building into a 12-unit multif family

59:50

dwelling, and to construct a 15 space

59:52

accessory parking lot and associated

59:54

improvements on site. The project

59:56

proposes one-bedroom units ranging from

59:58

537 ft to 680 ft and includes a small

1:00:02

office on the second floor. The project

1:00:05

site is comprised of 13 parcels totaling

1:00:07

42 acres. 12 of the lots are vacant and

1:00:09

the only property that features any

1:00:11

existing development is at 100 North

1:00:13

13th Street which is a.20 acre lot with

1:00:16

a two-story 11,580

1:00:19

ft brick structure which was constructed

1:00:22

in 1922.

1:00:24

The project site is generally bounded by

1:00:26

Calamus Street and 114 North 13th Street

1:00:28

to the north, North 13th Street to the

1:00:30

east, Walnut Street to the south, and

1:00:32

Lynen Street to the west. This detached

1:00:34

brick brick structure is an unusual

1:00:37

early example of the art deco

1:00:38

architectural style with Spanish mission

1:00:40

style and Gothic revival motifs and was

1:00:43

known as the central

1:00:45

printing press building formerly the

1:00:47

church of god central publishing house

1:00:50

which was designed by Frank fontock and

1:00:52

constructed by shoemaker and son. The

1:00:54

building is currently abandoned and has

1:00:55

been so for several decades. Character

1:00:57

defining features include the original

1:00:59

brick facade, a symmetric front facade

1:01:01

featuring decorative motifs, decorative

1:01:04

brick designs within the facade, a

1:01:05

prominent front entrance, a loading dock

1:01:07

on the Walnut Street elevation, and a

1:01:08

parapit wall topped with concrete coping

1:01:11

featuring ge geometrical design elements

1:01:13

which are typical of the art deco style.

1:01:16

The main arched entryway on North 13th

1:01:18

Street projects out from the facade, is

1:01:20

emphasized by buttresses and a

1:01:22

semic-ircular coping design, and

1:01:24

features simple wooden double doors

1:01:25

beneath a boarded up arch transom and a

1:01:27

sign identifying it as the central

1:01:29

publishing house. There's a secondary

1:01:31

pedestrian entrance and a vehicular

1:01:32

loading area accessed from Walnut

1:01:34

Street. Although many of the windows are

1:01:36

boarded up, fenistration primarily

1:01:37

consists of casement type windows that

1:01:39

are that originally had glass panes and

1:01:41

metal frames which were lost to rust.

1:01:43

The windows also feature decorative flat

1:01:46

arches and a belt course above the

1:01:48

seconds story windows. The structure is

1:01:50

topped with a flat rubber roof. The

1:01:52

project site also includes adjacent

1:01:53

vacant parcels to the north and west.

1:01:56

The industrial institutional structure

1:01:58

is unique in a neighborhood which

1:02:00

features primarily single family

1:02:01

attached row homes with scattered

1:02:03

commercial and instit and industrial

1:02:05

uses. Although determined to be not

1:02:07

eligible for listing on the National

1:02:08

Register of Historic Places, the

1:02:10

building is an important cultural

1:02:11

resource for the neighborhood and

1:02:13

contributes to the overall character of

1:02:14

the streetscape and neighborhood. The

1:02:16

project will allow the building to be a

1:02:18

contributing resource once again. The

1:02:20

planning bureau staff recommends the

1:02:23

request be approved with the following

1:02:25

conditions.

1:02:27

The applicant must conform to the

1:02:30

requirements outlined in the city

1:02:31

engineers review. Uh the applicant

1:02:34

should consider extending the fence

1:02:35

around the perimeter of the site in

1:02:37

including along the north 13th Street

1:02:40

and Walnut Street frontages with gates

1:02:42

at the location of proposed walkways to

1:02:44

enhance security and sight control for

1:02:46

residents and prevent public access to

1:02:48

the proposed rain garden. The planning

1:02:51

bureau recommends the applicant consider

1:02:53

creating an outdoor leisure area for

1:02:54

residents such as a patio or other type

1:02:56

of outdoor seating. And finally,

1:02:58

although the principal building is not

1:03:00

located within the AOD, it has historic

1:03:02

and architectural value to the

1:03:03

neighborhood and is located at a

1:03:05

conspicuous intersection. As such, the

1:03:07

applicant should endeavor to utilize

1:03:09

historically appropriate materials and

1:03:10

designs and exterior features such as

1:03:12

windows or doors. Plan B staff

1:03:15

recommends the request be approved for

1:03:16

the following reasons. The subject

1:03:18

property is a unique industrial

1:03:19

structure which has been vacant for

1:03:20

several decades, has experienced

1:03:22

significant deterioration over time, and

1:03:24

has imposed blight on the neighborhood

1:03:26

as well as small lots which have been

1:03:27

vacant for at least a decade. As such, a

1:03:30

project that can adapt adaptively reuse

1:03:32

the properties and allow them to

1:03:33

contribute to enhancement of the

1:03:34

community will provide a significant

1:03:36

aesthetic improvement for the

1:03:37

neighborhood. The 12 apartment units

1:03:39

will address the city's need for housing

1:03:41

by providing quality housing options in

1:03:42

a vacant building. While not certified

1:03:44

as affordable units per the city's

1:03:46

affordable housing policy definition,

1:03:48

the provision of more housing units will

1:03:50

help to combat rising housing costs. And

1:03:52

finally, the project will result in

1:03:53

improvements to the streetscape and

1:03:55

pedestri pedestrian infrastructure that

1:03:57

will benefit residents of the

1:03:58

surrounding neighborhood as it will

1:03:59

enhance a conspicuous corner lot along

1:04:02

one of the primary corridors in the

1:04:04

Allison Hill neighborhood, adding new

1:04:05

residents to the neighborhood,

1:04:06

activating the street and community on

1:04:08

nights and weekends, and contributing to

1:04:10

a growing customer base to support local

1:04:12

businesses. Could

1:04:15

you gentlemen state your name, address,

1:04:17

and relationship to this project?

1:04:20

>> Sure. Um, Sane Gist, project manager

1:04:22

with Integrated Consulting, the civil

1:04:24

engineer of record on this. We are

1:04:26

located at 4 Casey Court, Mechanicsburg,

1:04:31

>> and Jared Neil with Halden Horizons

1:04:33

Group at 227 State Street, Harrisburg,

1:04:35

and the owner of the property.

1:04:38

Uh both of you heard the staff report

1:04:41

with the four conditions. Are you

1:04:43

acceptable in those conditions?

1:04:46

>> Yeah, no issu uh yeah, no issues with

1:04:48

the conditions. Um we we want to go

1:04:51

ahead and just kind of look at the site

1:04:53

plan to see where we could fit in the

1:04:54

leisure area. Um and maybe just get an

1:04:57

understanding of how the fence fences

1:04:59

would wrap around um Walnut and and 13th

1:05:02

Street. But but no no reservations to to

1:05:05

to taking that. So, we will take that

1:05:07

into consideration certainly.

1:05:09

>> Uh, and the other questions, did you

1:05:12

speak to the neighbors or I know they

1:05:15

had and then they used to have a

1:05:17

neighborhood group back there. I don't

1:05:18

know they still do or not, but

1:05:21

>> um so so actually yes. Um is just last

1:05:24

week we met with um I believe it was a a

1:05:27

me a former member of that group or

1:05:30

former staff member of that group. So,

1:05:32

we spoke with him, but even that prior

1:05:34

to zoning, um, we had reached out to

1:05:36

some of the neighbors and just got some

1:05:37

feedback. Um, really the the feedback

1:05:39

was, you know, they love the building

1:05:41

and they're glad to see something be

1:05:42

finally done with it. Um, if you've been

1:05:45

by there recently, we started to clean

1:05:47

up the property. We boarded up the

1:05:48

windows, did a um, they really

1:05:50

winterized it um, just as we were

1:05:52

holding it over the winter months as

1:05:54

we're going through entitlement. So, um,

1:05:56

I think the feedback has been good from

1:05:58

what we've heard.

1:05:59

Y

1:06:01

>> uh you want to add anything or you going

1:06:04

to show us pictures or

1:06:06

>> I can add a few things to what Jeffrey

1:06:08

provided. Um over here I have the site

1:06:10

plan which you should hopefully have a

1:06:12

smaller copy of the plans in front of

1:06:14

you, but I'm just going to talk about a

1:06:15

couple of the features. So um as part of

1:06:18

the zoning approvals, there was a few

1:06:19

conditions that were associated with

1:06:21

that at the time. Um, one of those was,

1:06:24

you know, being that, uh, there needed

1:06:26

to be a fence around the parking lot to

1:06:27

kind of shade head, you know, uh, screen

1:06:29

out headlights and provide a little more

1:06:31

privacy around there. So, um, that

1:06:34

combined with the fact that the parking

1:06:36

lot uh, area is subject to the summit

1:06:39

terrace historic district guidelines.

1:06:41

So, we will be go taking this through

1:06:44

the uh, architectural review board as

1:06:46

well. But what we're proposing is more

1:06:47

of a kind of decorative style of of

1:06:50

fencing that uh you know kind of

1:06:54

changing now that P the PVC fence that's

1:06:56

out there um that provides both that

1:06:59

privacy screening as well as a little

1:07:02

bit of more aesthetic feature to the

1:07:04

perimeter of the property. There also be

1:07:06

street trees surrounding that as well.

1:07:08

So aesthetically it's going to look a

1:07:09

lot better from a street streetscape uh

1:07:12

point of view. Um they are also

1:07:14

providing ADA access along uh Walnut

1:07:17

Street. The entrance there, there's an

1:07:19

existing entrance to the building. So in

1:07:21

interior to that building, it'll be a

1:07:23

ramp access to the uh within within the

1:07:26

the first floor there. Um and largely

1:07:29

speaking, and I the architect's not here

1:07:32

tonight, but I do have kind of a

1:07:33

full-size rendering that they provided

1:07:35

here.

1:07:45

>> [clears throat]

1:07:46

>> So the facade is to remain intact as um

1:07:50

you know Jeffrey was kind of describing

1:07:52

the features of it. It's obviously a um

1:07:55

a well you know it's a long-standing

1:07:57

architectural uh design that we want

1:08:00

that the applicant wants to maintain. Um

1:08:02

but as you noted the windows need some

1:08:04

assistance right there's so there's some

1:08:07

window treatments proposed over the

1:08:09

front entrance along 13th Street. there

1:08:11

would be an overhang kind of as you see

1:08:14

depicted there. Um and and some of the

1:08:17

uh typical light fixtures that would be

1:08:19

around the building. Um we we did submit

1:08:22

a lighting plan or for the parking lot

1:08:24

after the initial submission. We were a

1:08:26

little behind on that part of it, but um

1:08:29

we are meeting the code requirements uh

1:08:32

with that that plan um within the

1:08:35

parking lot. So trying to cut off any

1:08:37

spilled over from out, you know, going

1:08:39

outside the right of way of the the

1:08:40

property. Um outside of that, there was

1:08:43

just a couple waiver requirements we had

1:08:44

was or um waiver request was just the

1:08:47

preliminary plan as well as um the

1:08:50

minimum separation between a driveway

1:08:52

and intersection of right ofway streets.

1:08:54

The intersection that's along Calamus

1:08:58

back in here.

1:09:04

Oh, it's this one. Oh, yeah, that works.

1:09:06

That's easier. Um, the intersection, the

1:09:09

the entrance that's along Kalamus Street

1:09:11

there, uh, just given the where where

1:09:14

it's located and the proximity uh to the

1:09:17

Lynen Street intersection, we're not

1:09:19

able to achieve the 40 foot separation.

1:09:21

So, we're asking for a waiver of that

1:09:23

requirement. Um as well as

1:09:30

the curb radi requirement for

1:09:32

multifamily development I think is 20 ft

1:09:34

and it's just not achievable. We're

1:09:36

we're providing uh 5t I believe at all

1:09:38

the the entrance areas um from Lynen as

1:09:42

well as Kalamus. So it would be two-way

1:09:44

access coming off you know both both

1:09:47

streets there. um we are providing the

1:09:50

uh required amount of parking as well as

1:09:52

an 188 space with that um and an ADA

1:09:55

pathway to get into the building there.

1:09:57

Um so just a couple additional details

1:10:00

to add on to the narrative there, but

1:10:02

we're open for any questions.

1:10:06

Um

1:10:10

>> I think this is a a great project.

1:10:12

Again, I know a few years ago we had

1:10:15

another contractor

1:10:18

didn't work out with them, I guess.

1:10:20

[clears throat] And that building's

1:10:21

still standing there like

1:10:24

it's ugly, you know, that's all I can

1:10:27

say. So, anything to approve that corner

1:10:30

that that's great and seem like you guys

1:10:32

are doing a good job with that.

1:10:35

So, I have no questions at this time.

1:10:38

Especially the commissioners.

1:10:41

>> Yeah, it's a it's a great bud and glad

1:10:43

city will be utilized. So, nothing not

1:10:46

to like about the project. All in favor,

1:10:49

>> Commissioner Reed.

1:10:50

>> No questions or concerns.

1:10:53

>> Commissioner M.

1:10:55

>> I think uh it's a a great land

1:10:57

development project. Love the plan set.

1:10:59

Appreciate the thoroughess and um I'm

1:11:01

assuming uh Jeff the city engineers

1:11:04

review will be attached to all of this.

1:11:07

It wasn't an

1:11:08

>> Yeah, I don't think it was in the Harky

1:11:09

packets, but it's on the online one. I

1:11:10

think you know some of the statements

1:11:13

were basically 5 foot wide sidewalks

1:11:14

instead of 4 foot wide which is shown on

1:11:16

the plan. Um but it was generally minor

1:11:19

issues such as that.

1:11:21

>> Thank you

1:11:25

>> questionc.

1:11:31

>> Yeah no questions.

1:11:34

>> Okay. This is no one from the public on

1:11:37

the left. one person here for against

1:11:40

the project and one there. So as I said

1:11:45

before I guess it is again as said like

1:11:50

to see all this building and especially

1:11:55

properties that you can people can rent

1:11:58

or afford to live in. So with that uh

1:12:01

could I get a motion

1:12:03

>> motion to approve with conditions?

1:12:05

>> Is there a second?

1:12:06

>> Second. It's been moved and seconded for

1:12:08

approval of this project with the four

1:12:10

conditions. All those in favor say I.

1:12:14

>> I oppos.

1:12:19

>> Thank you so much. Thank you.

1:12:29

>> Uh just uh introducing the new deputy

1:12:32

director uh Stephanie Thompson.

1:12:36

>> [laughter]

1:12:37

>> has the nerve to sit next to you.

1:12:40

I can't wait.

1:12:40

>> Yeah, I don't know who this is. No. Um,

1:12:43

no. Stephanie started uh April 6th, so

1:12:46

she's been here a month now. Um, and uh

1:12:50

she uh graduated from the same college I

1:12:52

did. Uh, but I did not meet her through

1:12:54

an alumni network. Uh, actually my

1:12:56

barber introduced me to her. So, just

1:12:58

happened to be we both went to Virginia

1:13:00

Comwalth University. Um but uh uh you

1:13:04

know she'll be taking over the planning

1:13:07

commission and zoning hearing board

1:13:08

meetings moving forward probably

1:13:11

definitely by July uh and uh maybe have

1:13:14

her leading um the case reports from the

1:13:18

planning bureau's perspective in June.

1:13:20

Um so because we have a relatively light

1:13:22

agenda, just two cases there for June.

1:13:24

So I think it'll be a good good time for

1:13:26

her to uh get her feet wet on that. Uh,

1:13:28

and with that, I'll uh let Stephanie

1:13:30

provide a little bit more information

1:13:31

about herself.

1:13:34

>> I don't really have any more

1:13:35

information. [laughter]

1:13:40

>> I actually am from Harrisburg. Okay.

1:13:42

>> Born and raised.

1:13:45

>> That's good.

1:13:47

>> Only thing I request of you, since Jeff

1:13:51

does it, all I ask for water.

1:13:54

>> There you go.

1:13:55

>> I was warned about the water.

1:13:57

>> Yeah.

1:13:59

I was [snorts] best that's because

1:14:00

you're here. I think that's why.

1:14:02

[laughter]

1:14:03

But besides that, I think you'll enjoy

1:14:06

yourself working. We have a good mission

1:14:08

here dedicated and welcome aboard.

1:14:13

>> Thank you.

1:14:15

>> Um the only other thing is why is this

1:14:18

gentleman still here?

1:14:22

>> In the future developing projects as

1:14:25

well. I'm stay

1:14:28

Greg a lot.

1:14:30

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:14:30

>> Yes. So, I just want to This is my

1:14:32

second time coming here, so I love

1:14:34

everything that's going around. So, I'm

1:14:36

here.

1:14:38

So, I got to All right, man.

1:14:39

>> No, you don't have to leave.

1:14:41

[laughter]

1:14:42

>> You can.

1:14:43

>> I love this. I love this.

1:14:45

>> One day I'll be sitting there.

1:14:47

>> People don't get bored with our meeting.

1:14:50

>> See, we can see there's nobody here.

1:14:53

>> Sitting there one day [laughter]

1:14:56

with a big project.

1:14:57

Okay.

1:15:01

>> That's very good.

1:15:02

>> Yes, sir.

1:15:03

>> Okay. Is there any before German

1:15:06

anything was good at order?

1:15:08

>> Oh, city solicitor. Anything?

1:15:12

>> Okay. With that, can I get a motion for

1:15:15

a German?

1:15:16

So move.

1:15:17

>> Is there a second?

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