KULIAH TAPI PODCAST: Belajar Hukum Laut Untuk Ujian Akhir Semester (UAS)

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different I will not ask many questions

but instead asked we have

had guests called phrases

Thank you for coming Thank you

also for the opportunity and

how are you Alhamdulillah good morning how are you

doing well you don't know how

lost I was because it was my first

time here so He still uses

Map yes sir we have Max technology Yes that's

right maybe before starting yes Already

started you can introduce yourself first

who are you really are your relationship with

me what is it like that people don't know

maybe Okay this Hello everyone

Loyal Click Andy viewers Today I can

take over Click Andy Introduce my name is

Mumtaz I am a

geodetic engineering student class of 2018 and

coincidentally Mr. Andi's student for

the subject of maritime law Okay so you are

here now because you want to learn the law of

love of course paint like this Hi Okay okay just

rims please start

the questions as if answer if you can walk

okay okay okay bye so I'll factory first

nivana why is Syahrini here yes we will

soon have the final exam for maritime law of course

this will be very useful for

friends who take it Maritime Law as well

but for the

general discussion we are also no less interesting

actually will PNG Okay I start from the

first question nipanip so I

read the news a few days ago there was a

headline that the Coordinating Ministry for Marvel's encourages the

younger generation to care about torn maritime issues

When I read the

headline I thought the

first thing was maritime law So

actually what is the urgency or

important thing that there was support for the sea

and how is it for young people Okay

if to know and learn

more related to maritime law every

Mr Ninja yeah I haven't even read

that Oh I see that seems like this is really

important we first of all

this sustenance we are taught from kindergarten to high school

that the sea is more than land

negative being two-thirds of the

earth's surface is sea blah blah blah we are used to

that well what's interesting in Indonesia is

also like that 2/3 of our area is

sea so that means this sea

is vast that's what it's called the

first fact and its vastness is really vast

even wider than land because of that

and so well it means this If we

talk about for example what is the potential

space to get

all kinds of resources means that means the potential is

more in the sea than

land because the ocean is wider It's

aground because kebaya is not now

if we don't understand

How the sea is how to

manage it what are the rules of the game is very dangerous

Hi with Ken so if we don't

understand maritime law or maritime issues

it means we don't understand 2/3 of our country

test lo jacket so it means whatever the field of

science actually doesn't have to be big

so that it has to be law all sorts we

are in a country with a vast sea and the

sea is important and it dominates

its space right so it is mandatory for us in

my opinion young people especially for

marine materials so that seems to be the context

Oh why is the Ministry of Communication and Marine Affairs face this encouraging

so that young people care and understand

maritime affairs titipke but I'm

curious if in geodesy there are

many applications of knowledge such as

photogrammetry mapping and so on

but why did Andi choose to get

involved or study maritime law

while the vital Jodha law this time

and it's okay not the tail Yes Ma'am

suffering from geodetic engineering why Sir is

liked by the law of nature itself

the story may be a bit long because

it started from the issue of borders

so I started it not directly from

maritime law Okay so this but I'll try to

summarize what happened when I started as a lecturer

or Previously, there was

no maritime law course.

When I was taking a shower, maritime law students

didn't have any borders or anything,

so that's when I first learned about

border issues, okay, this is the border,

we didn't want to plot it, it was

when I first became a lecturer, so I

became a young lecturer, then the

geodetic engineering where we went to school

got a kind of project assignment

from the countries, Hai, to help

determine the land boundary, moreover the land boundary

between Indonesia and Timor Leste, so

millions of lecturers used to behave, then there was a

project like that, I was involved, I was

involved in mapping the land boundary

from the same to measure the GPS congestion

for the western boundary from there, then I thought,

Wow, this border seems really interesting,

Hai, I want to do my Master's, I'm interested in studying

borders and so on, well, I did my Master's

in Australia, so if once, there was

one problem, there were no land boundary experts

there, where I wanted to go to school, there were

maritime boundary experts, that's

the story, so the

Professor, the head of the department, told me, you could say,

if you want to come here and want to

learn speaking, you

just learn maritime boundaries because we

don't have the sky, Ali, land boundaries, so there's an

element of accidents, it's a bit, but then the value is like that,

Bro, studying

maritime boundaries is really interesting, then

remember what we stressed earlier

The sea is more and more so it is

very relevant Well, it turns out that if you want to

learn the statement of thinking, learning about

borders has a mapping of the

borders, the point is also

the coordinates of the position of the fixed line are related

to what we use Hi, I want to, but it

turns out that if we want to learn about

maritime borders, we cannot be separated from

the law of the sea, that's the story, so because I

want to learn about land borders, I

originally wanted to, but because there are experts,

then to maritime borders, to know

maritime borders, we have to learn the laws of the sea,

that's the story, there are

elements that are not intentional, how big it is,

but then I got involved

there, I learned a lot after the team, it turns out that

the relationship is very close, ah, there, so

maybe the answer will be like this

now, why do people who are grumpy

learn the law of the sea

because they are doused with the contents as the

coordinates of their breath, that's what we

previously had guitar chords, but we can't

do that without understanding the law

anymore, well, it's better if we do that

I studied the law of the sea Putra ta, the

technical aspects of biodiesel, there are so many things

that we have to delve into, so that's

the story Sorry, it's a bit long, but

indeed, Bro, it's included, this is interesting,

but this is because of an accident, yes, it

means in the form, but I've

heard about it too, you kind of a

viewer, click, there are also those that have been

broadcast, not yet, dnoorfa, in the past, also

worked at the United Nations New York,

how's the story? So the story is that

when I finished my Master's degree, as many as India in

Australia at the University of New South

Wales

had finished, so basically, I studied

formal maritime law for the first time there, in fact, I

actually took the class, Clash of

Lords, so I took it and was kind of

drunk because I was sincere, the content was

lawyers, all of them had graduated from Master's degrees, and I was the

only surveyor in the class, but

this was also smooth by the survey and I had already gone home.

Hey, there was an opportunity, there was an opportunity, it

turns out that the UN, the netmation citizen,

had a program called the UN

Nippon Foundation Fellowship. So

basically, it was

a fellowship or scholarship

given to people from developing countries,

10 countries that were in the video, to be

given the opportunity to study law

further, like that, so,

and we would compete.

Well, because I thought I could register, this was

n't a scholarship for Master's

or Doctoral degrees, but basically, the

study programs were courses, more like

courses and internships. That's why it was more like

eating, then I made a proposal and

followed all kinds of processes,

thankfully, I was accepted, so 10 people from

all over the world were accepted, and

one of them was from Indonesia, I was chosen from

there, then

six, one of the segments of the program

was an internship. at the UN office in New York

that's the story so it was done

in two places yo strali six months in

New York three months nine months

total so that's why Why is it

finally there congratulations three months

almost four months left Okay myself

interested earlier Sir said the

only surveyor at the time of

taking the class biodiesel what are the

taboos and maybe What are the

advantages here the only one

who definitely understands more about the

rabbit practice right Mr Andi how about Fany the

bad story before yes still the

book is thick thick no pictures

How BDSM became let alone maps pictures

also exist like that So we usually

remember the picture notebooks there are maps or

not this one there is not so it was really

confusing with the articles with what are they

called letters that are many cells

Hi drunk others but like it or not

because there are many assignments to

pass that's where I was first forced

to read what are called

legal articles and all sorts of things which are

really according to the times not

pleasant for me but Mawar was forced

we do that that this is the term Dark

only well what is the bright side when

Then from the tasks related to

maritime boundaries We were told that it was like a

simulation, a negotiation simulation,

so my budget became country B. What

if we want to negotiate like that, right? Yes, that's

familiar, Sada, we made the scribbles, we made the maps, made the

lines, that's

where I can contribute,

this is the most

understandable meaning in the technical sense, so

when friends can read this article, they

say this and that, right?

Then we as surveyors, if the article is drawn

like this, then the comments

will complement each other, so that means the

issue of borders and maritime law is an issue that must be

studied

together,

okay, and resolved together, so that's Breath, it's

time for the site, that's why we always say that we will need to learn a lot, but

we can also contribute a lot, we're in a rock,

paper ... The products of

this country must be submitted to the UN, right? Yes, that's where

I was there, including also

associating with the name

KYT, a special institution to manage

or handle the world's continental shelf,

okay, Sis, I was there for

3-4 months, okay, maybe my friends at

home can also be motivated, this is not

only RGDs, it's not only mapping, it's

not only photogrammetry, but it can also be

in other fields, like earlier, Teh,

Law of the Sea, and one more thing, maybe it

happens very often,

friends who are non-legal and non-

geodetic,

Hi, they feel like they got a better legal explanation

than the way we

explained it, this looks like a legal egg, it

must be really good, but for

non-legal and non-matchmaking people,

our way of explaining with animation and

maps turns out to be easier for

us to accept, so that's also a

good contribution, okay, okay, let's

continue, hahaha, we were

talking about the sea, the law of the sea, the law of the sea, yes,

in the international world, it's

adenoncos, pantes, unclos, what is it

really like, and spower coconut until the

countries ratify or

use a brush for

what,

map or

divide up, manage their waters,

unclos is an

abbreviation for united nations convention

on the lord besi or in our language the

UN Convention on the law of the sea is

logically like this more ep when

there is no law imagine yes there is no law of the

sea there is no unclos for example

those countries have a

tendency to control the sea

because what because they need Yes

as a necessity because in the sea there is

something they can use whether

it is fish certainly not

hydrocarbon minerals such as being a negative country

definitely wants to control the sea if

there is no law that certainly

the tendency is to want as

much as possible Okay bro it's not normal

well but then after we let

that happen the phenomenon that then

appears is Canada is a big country there are

small countries there are strong countries there are

weak countries so who wins in that situation

that's why they are big those who are big can

control a lot of the sea they go everywhere

all kinds of exploit the sea but

small countries are weak who don't

have facilities so they can't

do more potential injustice

live Hi so then finally

enlarge it claims the sea

as wide as possible the small ones can't well that's how

the world think if we just use

logic Wow this time it's not

regulated dangerous in the long run

small countries relatives of anything big ones can get a

lot the idea to regulate

that's the story regulate how the country

should have sea ​​how

wide is the sea what are the names of the zones right that's the

logic

then long story short

the countries of the world gathered to

negotiate how we can form a

law that can apply universally acre like that

again after a long negotiation

it was agreed that was agreed from the

negotiation process namely unclos that cement not

one yes okay there are three even

honeymoon 8 already exist

Hi but say it's not perfect not

comprehensive in 60 there is another not

perfect either well just yellow in 82

that we know now will be aired

next year these two were

actually negotiated for a long time from Ton 73

to 829 years negotiating the

articles that we have now

so the point of unclos is a

world agreement that is written in the form of law

since then it is used as the

best law we have said for

how we manage the sea

so another term for unclos

is the constitution of the ocean Okay

in the basic law two seas like

ours so that's why why are

countries like that so keen

to check the situation because yes it is

our product all Okay when it was made

first all countries did participate in the negotiations

all sorts of things so in general we don't

feel it's a foreign product because when it

was made I was there he was there

he was there The Indonesian delegation was

there Then for nine months

to really oversee it So there is

no term unclos that is a

foreign product or positive marine product with

our people there when it

was made it okay the

cost if not Saturday yes

Metals friends Yes B well so this is actually a

study that I mentioned earlier if

we read then unclos it turns out that the articles are

very

technical for example in the

article papa we read he talks

about coordinates talks about

distance talks about datum talks

about geodesic lines like that

so if you imagine if the

legal product has no technical explanation

imagine it is

very very ordinary it is very difficult to

complain so that means this maritime law that

Unpas said earlier that there are

hundreds of articles The articles after reading the

articles are very technical content

because also when it was

created it was also intended to

address technical issues because

those who negotiated in New York

were from various countries they definitely wanted to

invite technical people, meaning the

Delegation Indonesia said 7-orange

there is not only a legal person there is a

leftist there His name is Mr. Hadi

Sumardiman he is a

warm navy person from ITB T1G he

entered the navy to become a

negotiating team Indonesia so when unclos

was made buy New York there were

technical people who participated in the negotiations little brother

included knowledge opinion all sorts of things

it is certainly natural that the articles

then there are strong technical elements

and so on Hi Well that's but the problem is that the

legal product certainly does not have

pictures Yes that's right the law has

pictures how to draw let alone illustrations

especially this still well then after

that it became a legal product even though

it was made by

technical people still what appeared

articles with many words

finally felt lahore

these technical people Oh if this document

is left alone it is difficult to understand there

are no illustrations there are no pictures like that

well these technical people gathered these

geodesy people those people

oceanographic charts gathered with the status of

forming actually the technical explanation

of unclos is Let's make a

book let's say article 1 here it

says this like this like this Oh technical

That's what it means, it was made in

this book, you guys, this is article 2, oh,

what it means is that it was made here so that

it becomes complete from this. Eh, if it's

here, it completes Unclos, that

means it's a technical document from

Unclos itself, but there's one thing that

must be understood,

Unclos is clearly a legal product. Yes, alum.

No, that's what people think, because it's not

middle-class, so the

Karang people refer to Talos, for example. Okay,

because they think that here,

Cup actually refers to

costs before technically. Yes, but

it was never

decided by the nations of the world

like Unclos, so it's

not a world agreement that needs to be

ratified. 6 Yes, so this is

very important for us, for us, the test is

important. Yes, that's right, but it doesn't

have legal force like Unclos,

but when you say Indonesia wants to

interpret the Unpas article,

Hi Sandy, you must ask for help. Ali Ali Khan

Ali Ar-Ridha will propose the city of Los,

which is technically accurate. Yes, but if it's

not legally binding, if

I have it, I can't take it from what

was explained earlier, like Unclos, which is

also used not only by

legal people. Yes, there are also Judas people. which

sometimes when panicking already understands the

law but not all

technical people understand the law that's

right So uneetha Los is

used for technical instructions

about what to do with entering that

once that's right very

interesting about complicated it turns out

for here okay

then If talking about unpas1 the thing that

I have in mind is about

the division of maritime boundaries yes cor I

feel that this is from unclos and what is

being debated by those countries

can be about the maritime boundaries

themselves if asked to number Indonesia

keep Yes if dingo itself is

how Pandi divides the sunnahs

maritime.com that's right So the point is

Spade our unclos number

appeared because people in the past were reckless

yes wanting a vast sea that

reflects so Unpas the main point

is actually the sea space that can be

owned or become the authority of a

country to what extent that's the point well

then for you to regulate it like this

So even this class yes this

land like that yes from this land

first the land was given 12 nautical miles of

territorial sea Okay so dollar

stay So maybe you in high school

we have studied before 12 nautical miles of

territorial sea

Hi mil The sea is talking for

friends who may not understand

one nautical mile is

1852 m Soraya one nautical mile

1852 So almost 2 kilos one mine is almost

2 kilos yeah so 12 nautical miles is

given to one country called

territorial sea Well it must be already it must be

1200 so it belongs here

this time like that Edward again

there is no additional zone called 24 nautical miles

buy double the

baseline outside there is a ring there is

called Zee exclusive economic zone

200 nautical miles Okay after that is finished or not

Well for sea water

the maximum is 200 military for sea water

yes for the seabed How is it still allowed

apparently

in the past it was still allowed more than that

basically more than 200 can reach well

now there are no numbers y What is certain is

that the country can control the

seabed but in general it is more than

200 nautical miles but there are several

constraints there are how many conditions

must be met to determine the

actual limit Sorry

previously the continental shelf that can be

controlled by a country

is 12 miles territorial sea

24 miles there additional 200 miles Zee and the

continental shelf that can be more than 200

miles Okay, if I am a

layman

why is it divided like that Sir

Why not just like

this the waters of this country can be

200 miles like that then what is the difference Sir

territorial sea additional zone comment STIE

Pandu continental really miss it the

difference is the

authority of a country in

those waters well earlier you

sang about land right Then there is

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Well outside of that even though outside of that is not

sovereignty it is called sovereign rights

y&i

sovereignty or so stop outside of that it is

called sovereign rights or software Ride

What is the difference between the previous ringgung authority

in the territorial sea or diesel

stop that's full key full while

if the outside is not full

authority so in fact the country

does not actually have the sea space

that it owns What is the right to manage

and utilize it

so in the Zee, in fact, in terms of space,

we can say that it does not belong to

our country Hey but we have full rights

To utilize the wealth that is

there

oh yes yes in that means

Foreign ships passing through the territorial sea

and passing through BCA are different in effect

even though both pass through that right

So the point in the Zee, our authority is

not as strong as in the territorial sea but

both have the right to

utilize the natural resources

there So the point in

simple language is the difference in the authority of

this country in Jono which is different that's

why it's been divided, right, if

earlier Sir, the problem of Zee and the

continental shelf determines it's like the same Oka,

the division is in the same house That's

why it's separated Okay in general, yes,

Zee is more about the world column so

what is the name of the column finally Finally,

finally, the continental shelf is the

seabed Oh I see, so if we talk

about mid Let's not talk about setting

we talk about the end, yes So if you

make the water your mind is gas, oil

and gas It must be on the seabed but

if we talk about oil and gas we give in to

comments which means if we talk about

fish Well that SEZ is a

country that has rights to fish

like what can be c-nya if we talk

about the continental shelf Solid Oil and gas

drilling for oil intentionally is clean already

prayed that continental shelf Well that's a

different law that regulates the

authority over the sea or in seawater

with on the seabed

like that yes

Hi Nadya it turns out that this is as complete as the

cost issue we have discussed

about SEZ about the continent

we have discussed about if

universally in international I have

read a quote on the internet Abang darling

Great is a nation that knows about

its history

there are two figures about maritime law that

I know myself Paddle the first

is Engineer Juanda the second is Professor

Professor Mochtar kusumaatmadja es Well

what exactly were they fighting for

at that time in that year and what was the

impact on Indonesian waters

currently panic Bridgestone so if we

look at it earlier, we said

before Unpas,

countries actually had their

own efforts to control the sea

Kediri the real desire right the

question then

what about Indonesia okay well it turns out that

Indonesia is also part of

actually part of trying

to control the sea space so in the past

even my farmers had many islands, right,

when we

Hey our sea was only thin 3 MI

from each island you could

say this is Jakarta My cellphone is this Island

Okay this Island this Island during Indonesia this

Island this bread is thin

this three miles this is also three miles like that

So there is Babel Babel yes So

between this cellphone and this glass there is an

empty space international money does not

belong to Indonesia

Hey It's very dangerous, right not

only is it not theirs but anyone can

pass through there and can do anything like

fishing can drill for oil can do

that Well because at that time

the law said only three miles

from each island

Hey imagine now

hey when you become Prime Minister

like Juanda earlier, right when you see

Indonesia like that, it means that ships

are free not just passing through Okay

you can fish can drill for oil

now the clock is worried this

doesn't seem right Deni

Well then with the help of

Chairul Saleh actually one more thing

feels this is Not right if it's like this

we seem to have to control the sea

between Our islands were like that, right?

Then in the

spinner, a young man at

that time named Mochtar Kusumaatmadja, who

you mentioned earlier, at that time he was

probably still around, no. 25-26 years old, so it's

not too different from Ah, now, right?

Hi Taemin, land, basically, how do we do it,

bro, like that, our style, we have to

claim the sea between these islands.

But please find a legal justification.

Don't let it seem like we're just being reckless, right? So, that's

what a

strategy is for doing something,

don't let people break us too easily,

so the

legal basis is clear, lacuna Professor

Kusumaatmadja Professor Mochtar

Kusumaatmadja, when he wasn't a Professor,

of course, even then, learn to

look at cases all over the world, read

How other countries

control the sea, all sorts of things, we found several of

our cases,

how many findings, steps

that other countries have taken,

he compiled and then modified,

the idea emerged, then we

have to cover our entire island

with the baseline of the archipelago,

the gadget, so it's covered

so that all the seas, genres, islands

become Indonesia, like that That's brilliant,

no other country has ever

done that before.

Well, that's what was then brought to

Engineer Juanda as Prime Minister,

he agreed, then it was declared.

Well, we know it as the Djuanda Declaration,

so the Djuanda version is basically the age of

Elisa to cover all the islands

into one so that the sea that travels

its skin belongs to Indonesia.

Well, nationally, brainly, it's finished,

this is cool, right? But

the question now is, is it permissible for

other countries to agree? So, because

it's common to go back and forth fishing

there, well, we know that it won't be

easy to agree,

but in my opinion, a great nation

is where we show the

greatness of our nation, right?

Hey, okay, Mega, others don't agree, we can

understand why they don't agree because

previously they were free to do whatever they wanted, it's

natural that they don't agree,

but how can we

make them understand our views

and agree? That's where

diplomacy begins. Earlier, we had diplomacy, we

went here and there, contacted

our neighbors, invited Rooney, this and that, this and that,

of course, there was a compromise in it until

then, which came back to the front

from 73 to the year 82, there was the

Unclos negotiations, that's where Indonesia

really came in and wanted to include the

principle so that a country like

Indonesia, ep,

which is recognized as an archipelagic state,

which means the islands between the

islands, are truly given to

us. But of course, we don't just

fight for Indonesia, we will have

this guideline, if there is a country

like Indonesia that also has many islands and

all kinds of things, it must also be given

so we don't just insist on

fighting for ourselves, you know,

we made friends with the Philippines,

we talked with VJs whose

country's form is similar. Of course, if

we don't fight, maybe in

the end Nishika told us

various things and something like that was decided or

82, okay, we'll accept it and the principle that

was put forward earlier, we accepted it, so the principle of an

archipelagic state or

athletic Steve emerged, so the principle of an

archipelagic state that is now in Unclos is

our contribution, prayer, name, I think

he continued, which was also clear, yes,

as Prime Minister

Well, Mr. Muchtar, who was still young when he

finally got the one who fought, Hi,

until he was at the UN, until

then he succeeded and at that time

he

was the Minister of Foreign Affairs, so the

young man who fought from the beginning

was finally appointed being a

foreign minister is the best internet cafe

foreign minister maybe we have a

really extraordinary one like that so an

academic yeah maybe yeah Eh you were really

given the task of typing chocolatine maps

finally because his vision was extraordinary the

idea was proposed and the world accepted

of course the extraordinary lobbying was

impossible to propose Oh yeah please

applaud it's impossible to live for

sure the rejection is very high so that's the

role of those two cool people don't

forget also often Earlier you said there was a

leftist there named Adi

Sumardiman like so we are again we are

actually our history No

no just started in that field we

have joined this profession even formed the

face of law past it was

broadcast interesting yeah okay

read about ranupani gold Then earlier it

was decided about the meaning of Bleszynski

prediction yes yes yes if in unclass it is

plant that article that ratified in

Indonesia until now is divided

into yes so that means in

unclos we carry out the big package

watching in unclos those are

articles regarding archipelagic state

species meaning the countries brush

countries then maybe I want to try yes

try to give a clearer picture of

everything so that means right when in

general this sea between the islands is already

ours, that's the essence of

the success, but the question now is like

this, but other countries have been

passing there for a long time, is it true that with this

new law, other countries are

not allowed to pass, of course they are

not happy, then the

compromise is,

okay, this may be yours, Indonesia, they

said, but we ask you to still

bring it through, just pass it through, yes, you are not

allowed to fish, you are not allowed to stop, it's

unclear, don't let it happen, that's the

form of compromise, and it's natural that

we ask for something, of course, the people also

ask for interests to be accommodated, right?

So

the principle of an archipelagic state is already

in the law in the Portuguese, good, there is always something

called archipelagic silence,

so the route where foreign ships can

pass through the sea to the islands in

our archipelagic waters, right, after it was

covered, yes, so that all of that, we

made it permissible on this YouTube, but

other countries can still pass, well, where they

can pass, we can determine,

well, that's what's called the Indonesian Archipelagic Sea Lane

or aki, Well, if that's what you want to

discuss, yes, it means that what was

ratified by Indonesia is the

entire UNCLOS, in which of course there

are rules, there are rules for archipelagic states,

there are meanings, right, right, that's what

we ratification is what

we really fought for at that time

okay then earlier it was mentioned by

Mr. Andi about other countries still being allowed to

pass there Yes other countries if

foreign ships or submarines with

that kind of passing is bad they have to just pass

Or maybe they have to have permission or

what exactly are the regulations good

gumion

Hi well we had

Hi Jo National Sea which has different

passing grades if between

our islands it is called archipelagic waters

Okay just build Indonesia

first we wrap it up using the

baseline of the waters inside here between the

islands it is called archipelagic waters

then our territorial sea starts

from the outside from the belt

it is 12 miles 24 miles and so on right that

we definitely have archipelagic waters

between the islands have

territorial seas outside it has a series

here too that because if

the question now is if he enters

our territorial sea may Not allowed

but

Hi the name of his right is called peaceful passage

or Innocent passage well in

party matters there are rules of the game if he is an

ordinary ship Please pass you are not allowed to

stop but must pass continuously it is

not allowed to stop let alone fishing

let alone while this is not allowed it is called

peaceful passage must pass peacefully

Hi that if Ordinary ships if

submarines are allowed No, but the

submarine must appear on the surface on the

surface and then raise the flag,

then it can't move, it can't stay

still there That's in territorial waters,

but if in archipelagic waters,

for example, say fish from many of

our islands from here want to pass macro there

Hi, that's normal mode mode mode normal

So if a submarine can still

dive, if a regular ship may

have rules of the game, it depends on

where it passes and what rights it uses,

but in general, come, say batik,

the choice is born, let go, for example,

it can maybe still dive or

must appear on the surface, depending on

where it passes. The rules are

clear Okay,

okay again, Sir, I've read that if it

was expressed, I'm the particle, but

the point is that countries have the right

to, like making Alki juice, but

not only for ships but

also for planes. Oh yes, okay, but while

in the Chicago convention, if I'm not

mistaken, there are rules where Ha Aircraft

Pass based on permission from the country it

passes.

If, for example, what is downloaded there or

there are special rules for Sorry, specifically

for, for example, warships that

land on ships, technology has advanced,

free

Hi, Runway for God's planes, it

doesn't become land, it's on ships too, it

applies to those at sea only or

like the father That's interesting so it's true

if we talk about the battery, right? That

means the route is tense, we think about the

ships' route, but it turns out that our Al is

also the plane's route, right? That's

clear, right? Then, although of course there are

other rules that will bind the

spring, you said, for example, there is a

disaster, that means it cannot be

violated, of course, if this is allowed,

but that doesn't mean there will be a

compromise, it's mentioned performance. But

if we discuss it like this, for example,

say an aircraft carrier, here, if there

are fighter planes and it

has a runway, yes, it's allowed, no, it has to be,

we don't have to, no, but

through this, we have to continue pairing. That rule is

recognized, well, what is not allowed is that

he is not allowed to fly a plane

there. Oh, so it's not allowed, later

in the Alkisa Mayak, there will be a plane landing

there or

Wow, there are rules in Article 53

23, so that's that Kali Laya HP is not

allowed, we've talked

about domestic matters, if it's

diplomatic, Mr. Afandi, we

've discussed the boundaries, right? What

determines the boundaries of Indonesia,

of course, Indonesia's neighboring countries

also determine the boundaries. As far as

I know, there are 10 countries. If not wrong

neighboring Indonesia Are

all matters of maritime boundary determination in

10 countries clear Pan

bad news first yeah yeah not Sasuke

but the good news is that we are

quite good at setting

boundaries before we can limit the

core logical excerpt first so that maybe

friends who seem to understand this

Say there is a country yes Ah country B That was

this, right, this used unclos, this used

brazuca Well if it is used for batik,

it has the right 12 24 200 this also has the

same right 12 24 200 must overlap

if it goes like this well in

that overlap we need to share then

that's where maritime boundaries are needed

meaning now we are just

asking after we check

around us with a simulation of 12240 kinds of

it It turns out that we overlap

with 10 countries right and that

means we need to finish it so India

Thailand then if we sort the

news India Thailand Malaysia

Singapore Vietnam then there is the Philippines

If Papua New Guinea Australia yes wrong

and Timor Leste Google

Hi Well with those 10

overlapping books that is why it needs to be

determined well divided in Latin

Hi so continuing The bad

news is that we haven't completed all of the 10

that we have determined, yes, what

we have determined is with eight countries

that I said earlier except

Paloh, not at all,

Timor Leste, not at all, Bakti

dress, it's been done but it's been unified, it's

not finished, just negotiating first, it

means like this, let's say for example, we

with Malaysia, imagine a map, yes, we

and Malaysia, God, have a lot of business, it can be

in the northern part of the Malacca Strait, there is a

central part, there is a southern part, there is also,

wait for Malaysia because in Kalimantan

too, there are more boundaries there,

Show evidence of our business, Bro, Malaysia

alone in many places, that's Islam, Malacca,

Singapore Strait, South China Sea in the

Sulawesi Sea Strait or Ambalat, maybe you

've heard, right, Sis, So with

Malaysia alone, there are many places where

maritime boundaries must be determined, we have indeed

determined them in the Malacca Strait, Hi in

69, but the others haven't, that's why it's been

with Malaysia, it's been done

but it's not finished, this is not so

there are segments that have been determined, there are some that

our blog is still thick, uniquely,

with the panel, namely Palopo, there hasn't been any

agreement at all, but

we entered, loading is slow, so

the answer is we have 10 neighbors

to determine maritime boundaries and not

all of them are yet completed there are still many

segments that we still have to

negotiate and agree with

them but if there are countries that have

already determined boundaries, sir,

with Indonesia there are already for example,

like I said to him, Malaysia is

already in the Strait of Malacca

but for the seabed only oh for us, for

example, the seawater is not yet that if

with Singapore Well, that's almost

finished, we said in 73 we

set it in 2009 we set it again in

2014 it was determined to be Malaysia, right

afternoon who pressed the impression to Hi but

we completed the segment in 40

years Wow, that's long so the

negotiations can take a long time, that can be

what has been Then if this is interesting

again if earlier and insulting the

seabed, the seawater is not yet with the

Philippines again The water is already the seawater is

already the base that is not yet like that if

with Australia it is almost finished for example

if with the

agreement in the South China Sea the ceiling or

that with Vietnam, the prayer is already the

seawater is not yet so that means

in if we say if we look at

the line it is sometimes already the

most complete But before that line, this is

the line that divides seabed only or

both or seawater only, we can

also see that Okay, that means connecting

the pipe earlier, yes, between the determination of

seawater and continental shelf, that means

This can be different, sir, or it can be

determined, well, it means like this,

today we are talking about the reference for

Unclos

Solo today, usually Unclos, for example,

we and the Philippines, previously there

was no boundary at all, it was empty,

what was patched there was a

fallen tank. Choose the seabed and seawater,

in fact, in theory, we can

say this with the Philippines, let's

set the boundary at the same time, for the

seabed and for the seawater,

we can theoretically say that, that

means the continental shelf and

its nutrients, okay, that's the theory, it's allowed or

not, but it has to be, I don't

know, right, because the articles that

regulate it are different, it feels like the

article that regulates the EEZ boundary is Article

74, the

article that regulates the continental shelf boundary

Inen, Article 83 does sound

very similar, so it has a flow in

meaning that legally there is no

obligation for the country to create the

same boundary line that divides

its seawater with awesomeness there are no

provisions, so then property is

allowed and allowed if indeed the country

fish depends on the agreement, I can be the

same phrase, yes, we have a different marriage, let

's set the seabed here,

then the seawater will be here, as long as

we can agree, there is no problem

legally, it's not a customer, so that's

why

one of the reasons why there is a boundary between the

seabed and seawater is different, there are

also other reasons, it hurts if I

ask this for lay people as

lay people,

why must it be separated like that, it's not

effective, the director of e-kanban is always there,

maybe there are negative or positive effects

from the different boundaries, there are not

many, actually, if we look at

this history,

remember that Unclos was only in 1982,

kweh, one of the features, just realized, the

site info is on, there are two, at least

one of them recognizes an archipelagic state, the end of

our struggle, that was number one,

number 2, Unclos has also just regulated

Zee, so the name Zata has just been

regulated, tutor 82, there was no

CT before, so the previous legal rule was

that the country had the right to one of

its waters up to 1200

Okay for sea water Oh yes, outside of that, 60 is

free Okay, that was it before, but for the

seabed Indeed, it has been accused for a long time,

it is allowed, right Okay So the point is,

if we are a united country since before

Indeed, before there were movies222 now,

what I mean by the photo is I know I got

12 seawater outside of that, I am not allowed to

get it, it belongs to everyone else

Anyone can use scratch, but for the

seabed It is already

Hi, it was wider before than before,

so it means like this, if now

we are close together, we can be neighbors,

our seawater will most likely not

overlap because of the battery earlier Yes, but

here I once, but for the basis, let's say

the table is already praying evenly for the

seabed, my rights are up to here, the brand is

indeed by the customer,

the Rosta, the rights are up to here,

overlapping is indeed by overhead, right,

meaning if something like that happens so that there is no

mistake, it is created correctly, so in the past, the rock

that was divided was the seabed, only needed,

no, no karr before, no overlap,

people only up to here, that's why the

seawater up to here, we have

divided the prayers So there was a time when the book

only had a seabed boundary

because we only had one, so the water

here was not divided into own and own, it was already

traditional poison, what's interesting is that

then this appeared

at Ponpes 82 which allowed the country to

have seawater, it looks like what fell there was

batik now. From this second on, I have

the right to get here, it feels heavy to get

here too, make sure there is overlap now

in the seawater, so we have to share it. Well,

the order of pulling it first, there is already a

line that divides the

seabed here, then when we want to

divide the seawater now, where do we want it to be.

So, if the answer is whether we want to or

not, we've used the

old ones, guys, if we've prayed, it's already there, just

pull it up. For example, of course,

that can be done, but again, because

we're talking about law, does the law

require that or not? If it's not

required, it doesn't mean we

have to have the same

line, right? What's interesting is

that in the past,

for example, when receiving something, it was

closer to my dear, because in the past, it

didn't use the same distance, depending on

the shape of the seabed, say, how awesome is

this? Hi, closer to here. When I

want to type, we want to negotiate the seabed boundary

now, yes, I definitely don't.

want the boundary here without

loss so I will insist

Say wait a minute Bro so we

just use the new article it has to be fair

here that's why Why the

boundary can be poisonous different if

Indonesia itself is there no Sir

there are cases like that that have been agreed yes

that have been with Australia

so in the 70s we made the seabed boundary line

it was safe and settled but it was indeed

overcome for example it was quite

close to Indonesia because apparently it was true that the

prayer was samho basically this is like that at

that time the data showed that it was

more Indonesia then an

effort to determine the sea water boundary in

97 Well because 7 was already raumrot then the

unclos articles were used which me

Hai obliges the country to share

fairly so for the

seabed then in the middle hydro the

seabed is near Indonesia The seawater is in

the middle but it's different Well so

now we have 11 situations

with Australia where imagine yes the

seabed belongs to Australia but the water

above it is

Indonesia because that was the boundary between the

seabed and the seawater is different

so the answer is Jazz we have a

situation like that like while it

has been mentioned Australian problem also

yesterday read the news sir yes a bit sad

news this Sir Indonesian fishermen

no I don't know this in

general intentionally accidentally entered

Australian waters Okay and he said it was

burned more wrong yes According to the non

costume rules How sir yes before we

talk about

burning the most important thing is to

fix it step he worked really

violated he said pressed but if

we want to say the ship violated it

means we have to know the boundaries first

with if we don't respond we can

say someone violated it

like us with neighbors Eh you

passed my yard like that

Canada fence if there is no

sign we can't say he

saw now we because so

the question now between

Indonesia and Malaysia with Sorry

have there been maritime boundaries

set the answer is okay but

Hi after we checked I also happened to

write about that yesterday there was a

position where our fishermen

were said to be found It turns out that when we

checked after we saw I Float

first where the boundaries are this Dimas kind of

famous they are far away in Australia so

their existence is really

in Australian waters so artists legally it is

difficult for me to defend or

say that in Indonesian waters

01 Yes but messages like this

Is

One country is not allowed to enter the

waters of another country, right? We were

allowed to actually, so if only others just

passed by, it's okay,

but when they were inspected, there were a

lot of fish, right? That's the story, right?

So that makes it so that later, yes,

legally, we cannot defend because it

seems like that, right? Hi,

this is indeed there is a news story in Langsa,

I read that the clinic was stranded because of the

typhoon, they were

stranded there. So that's actually

the charm It's okay, a craftsman can make a

mistake, stranded

Hi, but again, the problem is stranded,

but when checked, there were a lot of fish, right?

We're like that, how can we just

strand immediately, that design is like a

joke Sagina, you were walking in

front, then because you were bumped, what? Then

you became like entering

someone's yard, Langgeng No, you were bumped, but

if for a week people were picking mangoes,

so one of them, right? That's roughly what

happened, right? That means, yes, okay,

I've tried to analyze that and it is

indeed in a state of guilt, but

slowly, next, if it is burned, is it

allowed or not? Well, the unclos field

is not clear, it is explained How

to handle it when a violation occurs

but there are no

specific rules about burning

Hai but indeed each country is

allowed to make its own rules

as long as the rules do not conflict

with Unpas nervous that well Parka

Indonesia also has its own rules

Australia has its own regulations now just like this just

use our logic We

also like or wait Amen yes

other country's ships and if we experience it

we will be proud of my glue we are

scared that Twitter is held or what Well

then it means this if

my intellectuals are finished like that Yes we

have to Balance thinking about that if we

feel that

illegal fishing action is effective

by burning

Hai then we have to let

other local people that also fails

logic Don't let us have double

standards when other people enter

us-we sink in or burn or

what but if our ship goes there we

have a different view that in my opinion

too Although of course we have to

defend will if you we we will

Bella to the last drop of blood

in this sense but entering

Idul frameset arrested Here we will definitely

provide legal assistance now far to

smooth to the maximum only for

then we say

do not do anything that becomes not

Ferdi we previously we later the impression that we

have double standards

you if there is the ship there you

sank in why your ship can't be

sunk big like that So

if I look at it more in that regard

regarding the Madiunpos regulations, it's not a

clear card but what is clear is that countries

have the right to have

their own regulations Hi but I'm

wondering about this Sir, right Usually

for cases like that, those

who are affected are

traditional and so on, right,

sometimes they don't have the technology for

us in the open sea, we dare to do anything

like our worship if it is

carried out there are signs or outdoor

or there are signs there are fences like that

But in the open sea we don't

know, sir, especially Moreover, that was the

traditional fishermen for the

Indonesian government itself, Sir, How do you

respond to this,

this is indeed a

separate problem, right, the problem of

maritime borders, there is one of the

weaknesses if we say it's

impossible to build a fence, it's impossible to

build a stake The problem is that

naturally the sea doesn't have a fence

and it's not easy for us to

know whether we've passed or not,

that's the first principle

Hi but does that mean we can't

do something from there, well, if we

talk about it in a more sophisticated way, this is

as a fisherman who other

traditional ones have

previous knowledge of traditional astronomy So

actually he knows the position Okay Yes Yes of course

logically diet can

determine the position of etlis approach is

cheap constellation film like again press

that all of that we adopt now

DBS so

Hi traditional he determines the position

itself by looking at the

star of course on the right of a

certain star on the left of the box he must be

there more if tomorrow he wants to go

there again make sure on the right the

same star he sent the

same star right Simple astronomy that

raise we adopt DBS Karang but

we replace the star with a satellite and

our eyes we replace with a receiver

because maybe observing remove it

means logic that traditional fishermen

have all the ability to

know where he is

roughly at least that's one in

my opinion but the second now

more pragmatic is

we should indeed provide

support to this other so he can

have simple technology to be able to

know himself is this violating or

not okay well we already have

that research before so I myself with

the help of my children to seniors starting

when in 2012 his name died Saturday wherever he

is now he diet once made

a tool called the JSR alarm that is

a very simple

Hi with the tools we bought We

assembled there The GPS receiver is like that,

then we collaborate with the

electronics, so to assemble it, the

Scroll clock program means it

exists. If it's simple, the price is

not lazy, it's a few hundred thousand,

with that tool when he's in

the middle of the sea, he can catch

GPS signals, Gar, and so on, so he knows

his position, right, where he is. Well,

because it's programmed, we've entered

our boundary coordinates, so he comments, so the

tool knows when he's close to

you see the boundary or boundary line, he

'll sound like that, we can Setu, so

with that simple tool, the

government can actually support

so that our fishermen don't get caught

in unnecessary boundary violations

or they don't realize the city

Hi, but as far as I know, a tool like

this hasn't been adopted massively, yes, we

used to be part of research,

if I want, besides

encouraging, yes, like that, it's

supported by the government, how is

the technology? Let it be made

simple and all sorts of things so they

can make it themselves, for example,

people don't have to, if we make

this and then they have to buy it, it's

all the same, don't make that technology

public, anyone who does this

might be able to make it the same, at a

cost, maybe I don't know, high,

even that's what's called open source, the

labyrinth, it should be ideal, but

if you guys come back again What are

the actions of the governments that

have actually done a lot of things,

outreach like this and that, there must

always be that, but again, this is like

what is called our sea and if we are

very vast, I imagine maybe

my training or outreach is not

evenly distributed, right? And even if it is evenly distributed when

we arrive in Aceh, where

generations have changed, we are researching

or or they are fishermen, but so I do

n't know because we haven't received

the training, maybe that's what we

have to do

there, that is our country's homework together,

actually, so my friends at home,

there is a case that is seen from two sides

first, Panji, because like

we often fight with our neighbor

Malaysia, about what happened

during Malacca, even though if I

take an example like Australia earlier, we

don't know

who actually violated it, we only defended it,

namely the Indonesian ship, so uh, my

friends at home, we also look at it

from two sides, okay, okay, let's continue with

this discussion that might be interesting

for netizens, sir, if for example

netizens like to fight, but when it

comes to the price of the Republic of Indonesia,

their patriotism immediately goes, ordering, right? I've

received the news lately, it's all

mixed up, Miss, about

Natuna. torn about China

Actually what happened in Natuna

because I've read the news, some

say China is behind on Natuna's claims

but there are also those who say that China

only claims its waters,

actually that's what happened in

Natuna So first,

this is really important, this is a

clarification if we read the headline

China claims Natuna Yes, so it must be clear,

we say now China has

never claimed Natuna in the sense of the

mainland or the islands of Natuna card

as well as the mainland Natuna islands

So it's not that, it's definitely not

China does not claim the Natuna mainland

at all, not happy like this China does not

claim our mainland or more so

we-we also have no business with

you, you around there, there are many

islands that are disputed,

we do not participate in

claiming those islands at all, so it's clear,

actually, first, Natuna is

not claimed by China and we are

safe, no one questions

one by one, then the question is, the problem is,

where is the problem, China does

claim the waters near Natuna, so the

second one is right,

now this means,

let's go back to the UNCLOS, right, is

n't it the Ros rule, it's clear which

country is here, up to where 200 It's

stretched then if it

overlaps please take care of it if not

no Well if we check this from China

here we measure 200m from Indonesia we

measure 200m no overlap How can it be then

what's the problem what is this well it

turns out that China has its own clamp

that is not based on unclos

The Mummy even though China has

ratified unclos

Hi 96

interesting well but anyway so it turns out that

China has its own claim not

based on ulos he was already sold

before there was a fee then there well

so according to him that is the

historical basis simple historical basis

because according to him

his ancestors have come to the area around the

South China Sea from hundreds of years

ago he said that so

he feels that the owner

or traditional for the determination is

there more or less abstractly the

principle is so then he

claims the entire South China Sea

with 9 dotted lines like that which

we then know as

another nindash Nana indah Apart from that

if we connect it does indeed touch

the waters near Natuna so

we have rights in Natuna that are partly

unclos because if we look at Hi Nanda

Besides that, it is indeed touching

on the overlap so if we

are Not friends overlapping 4 first if

we refer to the unclos earlier there was

no overlap earlier the

North finger but if we look at

China's claim with other nenda's there is

only this but in the end it is a

legal video Yes no of course

Nanda's line Apart from that, it is not based on

law, right? So that's what

happened but the problem is they

still feel that they have the right, they

come there to fish as long as you remember

that now it becomes our problem

so that means we have to click, we say one

Natuna exactly As again natural is not

claimed what is claimed is the waters

near Natuna in what way is it silent pen

with other nice that is not based on

unclos like that So if we are in

the bag then what is Indonesia's attitude

Hi do we want to negotiate with here

for example well The problem is like negotiating

means like this admitting

if we want to negotiate outside we

admit that he has rights we have rights

let's negotiate

people there don't even have cellphones then if

we want Brunei like that scene is the same

as us like admitting

steps or or China's claims that are not

based on law that is the

sensitive thing that we don't want to

do it, aren't we a nation that doesn't

want to chat Ding Yap basically

negotiating There's no such thing as if

I were like sago whose job is to

eat like people who are dating or

engaged, so there are guys who have

girls, they love each other and all

sorts of things, their parents agree, there's no

problem, one guy has another guy who has a crush on her,

Hi, the girl doesn't want her parents,

suddenly the guy invites us to negotiate,

bro, we negotiate Who has

more rights Oh yeah, there is, after this,

no, it has nothing to do with that,

so he just wants to, like

falling, just wants to, not based on

the law, so he doesn't have a

solid reason to negotiate legally,

something like that, but if for example

China has violated it, that means it has to be

prosecuted with this, who is

Indonesia, also take action according to the costs mentioned

earlier, Mr. Yas, if we do this, this is like this,

that action has taken

various actions, first, if he

comes, then legally, we have to be

firm in our position, the legal curtain, that's why

Surya's firm legal position is, do

we send a protest note,

that's a must, if we don't protest,

if we just play cat and mouse

in the sea, the legal position will be

unclear, that's what we think

We have always done protests. Legends

like him also do the same thing,

other countries, if they do it or

protest, then

Oh yeah, I don't know exactly what

happened in the field, right? Then

the dynamics are basic, I don't understand. How

can we be so strong in the field?

How is our equipment now?

That's definitely an influence, but if it's Sara

law, we clearly do it, but China is

related to

Indonesia, there's Vietnam, there's the

film Ben

a.ab, that's all, sorry, Bersi. tense with

China How are they

negotiating or really taking action

so That's right, the fish that are claimed are

almost all because there are a

lot of sealed ones, well, the Philippines has already

taken one action that is more

progressive, it has been compared online,

that case was brought to

another arbitration,

arbitration was brought to fitase,

then administered Audi,

the case was managed by the name of the permanent code of

arbitration or pcie,

that's the clerk, I'm like that, yes,

brought there

Hi, simply put, this is how the door to

ask the court and Abi feels, is

this China right or not, and

the answer is China is not right,

it has been answered legally, some

are clear that the name Nanda

Apart from that, it's wrong, China has no rights

there, it's already legally clear,

but the question now is, when it's

been decided, what is China's

attitude, upholding it, that's a

natural thing, it's complex, that's the

problem, okay, it's never

-ending, I'll be here later,

okay, this is if only the South China Sea

was easy, the problem still

happened, it was finished last year,

the word of God came, but that doesn't

mean we give up, long time, vi-rs, we

understand what the problem is, right, that's right,

if this what happened and this

has not been decided yet efs We

understand until the titituit hi okay let's

stop for now Mas China hijab there is one

more news Sir I am also curious about the

legal basis If you drop

anchor at sea Sir I Foreign ships

say anchor basically Okay drop

anchor in Indonesian waters Then it was

explained earlier that

peaceful waters means yes just passing through like that

can't stop what is it like Sir

right if he just passes through is allowed

peaceful passage but in peaceful passage there

are clear rules not allowed to drop

anchor not allowed not allowed to stop

even all sorts so that means if

there are people from other countries passing through

our territorial waters and drop anchor it is

a violation already

HP credit where there are several cases such as

for example the

Singapore Strait yes yesterday there was a

problem it is impossible this is a bit viral

the problem basically he said

Hi Foreign ships

are blamed by our officers because they

drop anchor all sorts of things in

our territorial waters if only seen from

that context Yes it is natural to be blamed because

if it passes Beat our sleeping sea well

but at that time I was also like this

usually various sources Yes that is

cement he said ships from foreign countries

that want to enter the port of Singapore

imagine if the ship Enter Banten,

maybe there will be a queue later so it could

start quite far until it overflows,

for example, into the sea Regita, I was just

trying to recognize me,

well, because she stopped there, she wanted to enter

Oh, maybe she really wants to anchor to

not go anywhere, maybe

that's the problem, raising fish

will definitely be complicated, is it in

this context that dropping anchor in

that case is also considered a violation or not

Well, if we strip to God, who is

violating Well, that's apparently what

our patrol Yat, our soldiers, did,

then said that it was a violation,

even though in B tebal, but what I dropped

anchor because I wanted to enter a

place and was still queuing, it's

impossible to go back and forth, it's just

for walking, it could be like that again, I

thousand don't understand how it

should be resolved, but the point

is,

yes, we stripped down, saying it was a

violation, she herself might feel that, yes,

no, in the sense of minutes, there is no

other way, the game must stop there, but

after that, it hasn't ended before closing

What is it like talking about

shipping? I've heard Hey, it's embarrassing, is

there an argument about

why the Strait of Malacca, for example, is it that the

ship that died is the head so that it is

not taxed, okay, yes, tax, no

made a coffin is the term for

many people this is interesting Brilliant

but like this if we return

to the law the answer is no so

people passing through the Strait or in

the waters of all that is allowed or not it is

not possible to be tagged it is not good to be

taxed according to the law yes that's one

second if he passes through the Strait of Malacca

that means this neighbor is

Malaysia and Singapore

Hi our local fairy tale majekin how

okay this is like the road in front of my house

because I can't claim

the road in front of the house if someone passes

I tax the neighbor in front of me how is that the

road is a shared road no

no we can say the Strait of

Malacca is ours the name is New Zealand

in dividing the two countries so we have to

also talk to Malaysia first

with Singapore first that's the

simplest although back to the rules of the

game yes there are no rules like that but

if we can build a canal in the Strait of

Malacca what about a canal in the Strait of

Malacca maybe it will be unnecessary

except because it will be dividing the

land that is

said if we really want to divide the

land we can do it and that is

indeed we-we can this can

charge money because that is because we

made it ourselves not naturally by

just right Questions like this If we

make it known in one place or is it true

that it benefits you, yes,

people will pass through there, if there are others,

for example, well, if something like Suez

continues, what is the situation, it is

true that it really makes the

shipping route shorter, then

people will want to know about it and it is

natural that Pratu pays okay okay okay

finally Sir

What are the challenges for Indonesian waters

for example in the next 10 years or five

#fun what kind of material is that Sir Okay, if

I delve into the maritime boundaries that are

not talked about first, first,

our office chooses, we have 10 neighbors,

many of which are not yet completed, so

what state is one of the homework that must be a

priority for God, how to determine the

boundaries with our neighbors, that is

number one Because if the boundaries are

clear, we will be clear about

where the obligations are as is typical

01 second,

we have management, SMP has space, Datsun,

make sure there is space, it is a

clear space, but if it is not managed, if

we are not able to manage the

resources, what will happen Ken,

that is why managing it is important,

that is why knowledge about management,

before managing knowledge about the

sea, first map our sea

clearly and neatly with carefully

So that we really know what the prayer is,

what the potential is Barus next

management Well, from all of that, in

my opinion, it is human resources

Back again back again So That's why

now one thing, whatever the

field, these lines until it has to be

this

Let's 2/3 of the sea So actually it is

very wise if we, whatever our

field of knowledge, try to learn also

too economics, for example, it doesn't have to be in the

faculty of Maritime Affairs and Fisheries in

economics, try to learn blue economics,

blue economy, yes, if you are a person Hey, don't

forget to learn to record

our diplomacy, not if you are a cultural person,

don't forget to learn maritime culture too,

if that's the case, whatever it is, if we are a

grumpy person, Ih, don't just map the land, right, that's the

disaster, whatever the sea,

if we are a Pharmacy person, don't forget

to look for sources of medicine in the sea Not only

on land, so that means everyone,

whatever their field of knowledge, should

have an interest in it or someone who

has inter188 Not everyone

can say that finally, they know, they can be curious

about water about the blue economy Because

yesterday there was an assignment, namely I also

raised where the economic mother is separate,

but I still don't understand everything,

maybe my friends at home are also

still unfamiliar with what economic furniture

accompanies the blue economy, maybe In

simple terms, it seems like he's not an

economist, but the point is

treatment.

Hi, utilizing or getting

economic benefits from the sea. After

that, is the economy in the form of

tourism and Candy Blue Economy? Is it

from the seaweed that we sell

also economically? Is it from the oil and gas

now, the film is also allowed on the fish?

Tetsu, the economy that we have actually

done now, the wife, the point is,

how to optimize it and

ensure it is sustainable,

the assistant, Bekizaar, means that if

we fish from 5C, right? But

if we fish incorrectly, using

bombs, then we're not happy because that

doesn't fit into

your positive principles. Economics means taking

care of it, right? Sir, taking care of

Indonesia's seas is absolutely right, that's the

point, so we utilize the sea

with the principle of preserving the reserve.

Lestari web with Green economy in

this case, right? Well, if Green economy is

broader, like this, right? You

are Paulinho, charity. Okay, Okay, Fandi, there are so

many

answers, so it's a blessing, I don't

know, but it kept flowing, so I'm curious,

Sasuke, this is the conversation. Thank you,

the committee is also open. So

maybe friends also have a lot of

new insights, especially regarding

maritime law because I Personally, I feel

like this earlier, rather than

Indonesian news, which I know for myself what it's like, I'm

more interested

in issues related to the sea,

especially during the diplomatic period with

those countries, right? What, we have a

broader perspective, so

I hope that with the thugs that I

proposed to this, my friends at

home will also get me something like that.

Thank you, even though

I was able to chat

with the flood, I don't know how many

hours I've had. Thank you very much, sir.

Okay, thank you, my feelings, and especially

good luck with the exam.

Oh yes, dear, hopefully I can

finish it. Okay, thank you, good

night, high

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