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Welcome to the science battle of the extrasens. Our show is different in that it is not charlatans who compete in it, but real magicians approved by scientists. Yes, if you missed this news, then the existence of paranormal is already an irrefutable fact. Moreover, a fact that does not require additional evidence. There have already been too many cases of paranormal that cannot be denied, which science cannot explain. Strong statement.

I will not check it, of course. Today in the program: "Witch's dreams", "Telepathy messages", "Predictions", "Telekinese" and much more. All this does not fit into the laws of modern science. But there are those who are not afraid to tell the truth, even risking their career and reputation. One of those who bravely says what they think is a scientist and one of the most famous in our country

of the popularizers of science Tatyana Chernihivskaya. After watching her lectures and interviews, I realized that I had been living in a lie all this time. So from this day I close the channel and start a scientific program about extrasensory.

If you listen to Tatyana Vladimirovna for a long time, then you can really start to doubt in reality. One thing is when mystics and esoterics speak in dubious programmes, another thing is when it is said by a respected scientist with a scientific degree, and even with several. Moreover, what she says is convincing and, it seems, quite sincere. We cannot see what the Creator sees. We are made differently. This is magic and shamanism. They, these people,

These lucky people, chosen by the heavens, they have their own things. They somehow

They manage to decipher, and this deciphering does not submit translation into other languages. It is worth clarifying here that this is not some kind of big disclosure of Tatiana Chernihivska. Today we will not go into detail to analyze her personality and all the controversial statements. But on her example, we will see how and why such an educated person can sincerely believe in mysticism.

Hello everyone, my name is Alexander Panchin, I am a biologist by education and today we will dive into the paranormal. In today's video you will learn: How in the USSR they tried to prove parapsychology? Why are the main enemies of the mediums not scientists, but magicians? How to learn to move objects?

How did my meeting with the extrasensory end and how Tatyana Chernihivskaya justifies the mysticism of quantum physics? Put on your foil hats, we're starting.

To begin with, a few words about who Tatyana Chernigovskaya is for those who suddenly don't know her name. She is the director of the Institute of Cognitive Research of the SPBGU, a doctor of biological and philological sciences, a specialist in the field of neuroscience, psycholinguistics and consciousness theory. She is also known outside of the Russian world. For example, she was chosen as a foreign member of the philosophy and philology group of the Humanitarian and Social Sciences Section of the Norwegian Academy of Sciences.

We will not read all of her regalia, there are quite a lot of them, although her Hersch index is quite modest for a person with such statuses. The poscopus is 9, although she has a lot of articles in scientific journals. For us today, the most important thing is that Tatiana Chernihivska is a popularizer of science. Her speeches sometimes gain millions of views. Many appreciate the fact that she easily speaks about the difficult, and often it is

If they treat him badly, namely, he doesn't let him drink, or...

But maybe it was referring to a real study in the journal Cell, which concluded that some plants can emit ultrasonic air vibrations in stress conditions. Chernihivsk often does not mention specific sources of facts voiced by her.

So it's hard to check it. Besides, it somewhat hyperboles information in its speech, which is why even in scientifically justified statements sometimes there are dark-haired people. I have confidence that the world we are in now, that it really exists, and not in my head. I have this thought.

Initially, Chernihiv is very often balanced on the edge between science and mysticism. A kind of Blade Runner is carried on the blade of the Akama razor. It is clear that Chernihiv is not the only scientist who promotes strange ideas. But on her example, it will be especially interesting to look at the general problem of non-critical attitude to statements about the paranormal and how

"This attitude to fact-checking often comes in close proximity to other strange beliefs." On the other hand, someone could call Chernihiv female icon. Strong, independent female scientist who cuts the truth and confidently defends her position. From the ironic fact that the feminist herself cannot tolerate, defends,

and believes that women cannot become geniuses, because their brains work differently. They are more focused on multitasking. There are few geniuses among women. If only there were feminists here, whom I can't stand. They say, "Because we were kept in the kitchen, we only gave birth to children, we are their ancestors."

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Now, when no one is holding anyone in the kitchen anymore. She also says that women are becoming aryan feminists because of hormonal disorders. Partly, I think there are some hormonal things that affect it. I think that especially aryan feminists, let them curse me now, I won't hesitate, I want to note.

I'm sure they have hormonal disorders. I tried to find a study that would measure the level of hormones in feminists, but I couldn't find anything that confirmed her words. Also, Tatyana Vladimirovna is against video games and believes that they are breaking people's perception of reality. Why are they so dangerous?

these passions for the endless sitting in the virtual environment, especially for games. You see, he has already put 50 people there, after that switch off,

Switch on and they go there again. They have a wrongly built world. They think it's all reversible. Here I was particularly offended both as a gamer and as a scientist, considering that all this is nothing but unconfirmed fables. Although it should be noted that she still admits some positive effects of the game, but divides them into good and bad. No, there are positive things there, let's not talk about it. Yes, yes, yes, there is benefit.

Because we know that high-level athletes are taught by footballers. They not only run and kick the ball with their feet, but also play specially made games. There are very good computer games, including those that develop cognitive skills.

Yes, Chernihivskoye's idea is sometimes slightly outdated and it does not provide much evidence, but it is not yet normal. But it's time to finally look at all kinds of mysticism, the existence of which Chernihivskoye promotes in its educational content.

Remember all those moments when you thought about a person, and after a few minutes he already called you on the phone? Or when you felt in childhood that you were called to the board? And you were called. Or maybe you woke up a second before something terrible and miraculously managed to overcome the disaster?

What is it? Coincidence? Accidental time correlation? Confirmation of assumption? Or is it still telepathy? Quantum nature of consciousness, inexplicable force with which the universe is addressing our mind.

Alas, we are not yet able to fully unravel this great mystery. At least, Tatyana Chernihivskaya believes so. Is there telepathy or not? Yes, there is. But the fact that we cannot explain it in any way is a fact. We can only state.

that it is. In general, she claims that she does not support everyday mysticism, when people believe in all sorts of jibber-jabber. But she believes that only a fool will deny parapsychology. In general, Tatyana Vladimirovna calls on mysticism to be taken seriously. I am seriously concerned with mysticism, but I cannot tolerate everyday mysticism.

Let's do it this way. Let's try to look at parapsychology from the scientific side.

In the context of studying the paranormal, Tatyana Chernihivska recalls the neurophysiologist Natalia Petrovna Bekhtereva. Chernihivska emotionally tells how Bekhtereva sought to dig up the truth as a real scientist, and the evil commission on false science, a member of which I am, in detail arranged a hunt for her by the Holy Inquisition.

Now is not the right time to express very bold thoughts, because the Academy of Sciences has a commission on false science, said Bekhterev.

I found one single statement in the address of Bekhtereva from the Commission of the RAN on the fight against false science, or rather her former chairman Eduard Kruglikov, an academician. In his article, Kruglikov comments that Bekhtereva was actively promoting the phenomenon of skin vision. This is when a person puts on a blindfold, waves his hand over an object and counts, let's say, its color. There is even a whole school that teaches this extrasensory skill to children.

The fact that this is fraud, that this is fooling and fooling people is a fact, of course. It became the subject of a investigation by the journalist Boris Sobolev, the author of the movie "Going to Hell". There was a brilliant action called "The End of the World". The extras were gathered in the building, and then suddenly turned off the light. The presenter and the cameraman prepared night vision devices for themselves in advance.

Of course, in absolute darkness, no one wanted to demonstrate skin vision. Here I show you a card. What's on it? I blocked it with my back. Why? Because. Gentlemen, you are deceivers. Turn on the light or you will be afraid to mock us. I ask you to find a way out. You mock us.

- Find the way out! - I'll find the way out! - Why? - And we'll find it. It's clear that this phenomenon is based on observation and is often demonstrated by the "focusers". - Will you show them to me on the ceiling? - Where do you start seeing? - Yellow. - Yellow. - Like this. - Lower it down.

I'll say. Why not? But let's get back to the criticism of Bekhtereva. Kugliakov notes that Bekhtereva in her statements refers to a certain scientific publication, where the phenomenon allegedly demonstrated. But the article itself talks about the purely preliminary nature of the results. Nevertheless, in public statements Bekhtereva is not shy to say that this phenomenon is seriously tested by us. Moreover, she sent a letter to the president with the proposal to implement the method of training

alternative view in the special services. In short, he kindly does not agree with Bekhtereva. And that's it. That is, this is the most common criticism, not even the most tough, and Bekhtereva did not suffer any consequences. But from the words of Chernihivsky, it may seem that there was almost a hunt for a witch.

Such a narrative of a hero fighting alone against the system is very easy to sell. It is not for nothing that various conspiracy theorists love him. The main character in an unequal battle becomes in our eyes a kind of David in a fight with Goliath. So I want to support him.

In this video, I will tell you in detail about the Houdini Prize, where we scientifically tested extrasensors. You will ask: are there genes responsible for extrasensory abilities? The short answer is no. Because extrasensors do not exist. Joke. Or not. But the Houdini Prize was also a cool collaboration. In that project, kind people from the Genotech company helped us.

So we combined the fight against obscurantism and technical progress. I myself have passed the DNA test from Genotech for a very long time. I was interested to find out if I had any bad mutations. But fortunately, I was lucky in general. The main thing is that there is no increased risk of Alzheimer's disease. In general, the Genotech test is able to determine the genetic predisposition to many, namely to 187 diseases. All this with the support of scientific research.

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In Soviet and Russian scientific journals, you can find amazing works on parapsychology. For example, there is a completely insane article "Justice for the already called out" description, which resembles some kind of black rituals from the necromancy area. Imagine a rat being taught to pass through a labyrinth.

Well, fuck it.

Yes, yes, it is published by the scientific journal "Bulletin of Experimental Biology and Medicine", published by the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. So now you know why some people go to the cemetery to practice love. They choose knowledge of their ancestors. I love the crypts.

I love cast iron Lithium. And there was also the astrologer Alexander Buzinov, who at one time gave forecasts to the Ministry of Defense. Since each tank, aircraft or ship has its own date of birth, Buzinov made astrological forecasts for them. It is a pity that he could only predict the catastrophe in the background. After the explosions in residential buildings in Russian cities, Buzinov stated that he would easily determine the place where the terrorists hide

But the test showed that it was not found on the Buzino matrices. Probably, the terrorists were also helped by the extrasens, who simply foresaw the actions of the special services and Buzinov. There is no other explanation.

Well, so far, it is impossible to collect Russian X-men. The rat doesn't see the skin, they don't pass knowledge through death, and even military astrologers are leading us. Well, let's dive a little deeper into the distant past and look at the telepaths from the USSR, which Tatyana Chernihivskaya talks about. She says she even was in a commission on their study. There was such a commission on the problems of consciousness at the Academy of Sciences. By the way, I entered there, it is completely incomprehensible.

Why? I was a young girl, I didn't know anything about it. Indeed, in the 60s, the interest in parapsychology jumped, so a special commission was assembled for its study. It included different specialists, from scientists to magicians.

And so, in 1973, in the ninth issue of the journal "Questions of Philosophy", an article was published: "Parapsychology, fiction or reality?" Which was a kind of the outcome of the work of this commission. There, by the way, is also mentioned the grandfather of Natalia Bertyareva, Vladimir Bertyarev, who studied telepathy and clairvoyance. That is, Natalia Bertyareva, you can say, a descendant of the Extrasensory Society. It must be said that there are no loud statements in this article.

A lot of theoretical material, different classifications, a review of foreign and Soviet publications on the topic, what tests, methods and problems of parapsychology were conducted there. At the end, the results are summed up that so far it is impossible to talk about something for sure. Be careful, there are statements that there are standing examples of paranormal abilities, but they require further study.

Also, in the end of the article, the unkind spread of false scientific ideas related to parapsychology is criticized. What happens, after all, there were no extra sexes in the USSR? Let's compete, let's compete, who will give more? Tatyana Chernihivskaya said that during the work of the commission, a witch was studied, who looked at a matchbox, and he answered:

He was leaving.

This is a popular way to show your telepathic abilities. The name of the witch in the excerpt that I found Chernihivskoye does not call, but there are guesses who it may be. Nenel Kulagina is the most abnormal woman in the USSR. The video recordings of her superpowers had such a resonance around the world that some parapsychologists talked about them as

as the main proof of the existence of telekinesis. Ninel moved small objects, knocked down the compass arrow. It was difficult to doubt the truthfulness of her superpowers, because the experiment was controlled by respected scientists. Kulagin became a real phenomenon that was studied for decades. The most famous demonstration of Ninel Kulagin's abilities was just the movement of the matchbox with the power of thought. And you won't believe what terrible force she used for this. A thread.

with a knot that allowed him to cling to the object and move it around the table. Other videos with magic from Ninel Kulagina are also easy to explain. For example, the arrow of the compass moved because of the magnet hidden in it. My colleague Mikhail Lidin has a video where he talks in more detail about the hands of Kulagin. There is even a demonstration of these tricks from another colleague of mine.

Nikolay Fomushin. As they say, we can repeat. And this is an interesting point. When we try to prove or verify paranormal, we most often expect expert assessments from scientists. But the tricksters can help us much more.

This is closer to their profile. Scientists are the same people who can make mistakes, not notice something and even make a wish come true. And illusionists, yes, they are also, of course, people, they can make mistakes, but their eyes are really focused on the ways to manipulate human expectations and attention. Therefore, they notice this kind of deception much more accurately. For example, illusionist James Randi in one of his speeches showed how

raise a matchbox above his hand, pinching a piece of skin and straightening his arm. In this performance, he ironizes how such a primitive trick made an impression on the seemingly serious graduated scientists from the commission that studied the paranormal in the United States. Doesn't it remind you?

The tricks are really similar to people who stand out as mediums. Their tricks work only in specific conditions and from a certain angle. If you start looking at the illusionist in the sleeve or changing cards in your hand, the trick probably won't work. So all kinds of telepaths begin to fall with the slightest attention to their actions or deviations from the scenario. Tell me a little bit about what intuitive vision is.

Why are you looking sideways? I see it like this. With the right hemisphere.

If I had time to bend a nail

Or telekineticist James Heydrich will show how he can turn pages of a book with the power of thought.

But suddenly nothing works out when the aforementioned James Randi throws a styrofoam next to the book, preventing Heinrich from blowing on paper. I recommend the movie of Woody Allen "Magic of the Moonlight" on this topic, in which an illusionist was invited to check the abilities of the medium girl, and it was necessary to fall in love with him in himself, well, to confuse the brain and not let him see the obvious deception.

Let's say, the magic of Nenel Kulagin has long been uncovered and spread over the shelves, but this does not refute the existence of other people who possess paranormal abilities. You all know that there was a space race between the USA and the USSR. It can be said that her evil anti-scientific twin brother also existed.

Space race nonsense. The best minds of the two countries competed in the search and formation of their X-Men. The possibility of such a race was explained by the fact that both sides were afraid of possible success of the enemy. The Soviets are studying the aliens? Hmm, we also need such a program. Ha, the Americans began to study the aliens, so we need to press. What if they bypass us?

Such a vicious circle of idiotism. At some point in the United States, they tried to form an army of Jedi, as in Star Wars, using spiritual practices from Vietnam. The Americans could not create the Jedi, but a book on the motives of this story came out: "Men Hanging on a Bones" and its subsequent adaptation with George Clooney and Ewan McGregor in the main roles. McGregor was probably called because he already had experience in Jedi affairs.

Well, hi! But there were other attempts in the US to get paranormal - the Alpha project.

In the United States, in the 70s, a parapsychology laboratory was created at the University of Washington in St. Louis. The initiator of this idea was the aircraft designer and entrepreneur James Smith MacDonald, who allocated a half million grand to study the paranormal. James Arendt, who we have already talked about, wanted to participate in the experiments. He proposed a list of things to pay attention to.

during the tests, so as not to be deceived. For example, it is necessary to prohibit changing the test protocol during its execution and always mark the used items. He also was called to personally attend during the tests as such a professional look from the side. Randy was allowed to attend the tests, but without his mention in the reports and without any

After some time, as volunteers for the study of the independent of each other, two young people, Steve Shaw and Michael Edwards, appeared. They showed amazing results and especially succeeded in psychokinetic bending of metal. This is a cool way to call bending of spoons.

Can you tell us how do you do it?

Although, to be quite honest, we cheat.

Yes, for several years scientists from the University of Washington could not pierce two magicians who were not even 20 years old. Moreover, they worked with James Randi at the same time. With the help of his experiment, Alfa decided to prove that reliable scientists are easy to fool and give magicians for people with special abilities. He agreed with the guys that he would not help them during the tests in any way. But the funniest thing was the following: the magicians agreed that if they were

ask how they do it, they will immediately be honest. And in a few years of scientific research, not a single person asked them this question. But you managed to write a dissertation about one of the "focusers". Perhaps the problem is that scientists are not very adapted to deceivers.

In the academic environment, it is customary to come from the presumption of trust in what is said. If someone describes an experiment, you assume that such an experiment really took place. All participants are interested only in the search for the truth, and if something goes wrong, then it is rather a mistake and misunderstanding, and not someone's treachery. Therefore, it is not difficult to lead those who are inclined to mysticism around the finger, with great desire.

And Tatyana Vladimirovna, perhaps, got into the trap as old as the world. Perhaps that is why James Randi, and not some scientific organizations, made the most contribution to the research of the extrasensors. He created a fund that was engaged in critical analysis of paranormal phenomena and offered a million dollars to anyone who would demonstrate paranormal abilities under the conditions of a controlled scientific experiment.

And although there were a lot of tests, not a single person could pass them. We and our colleagues got similar results in Russia, creating our own analogue named Randy, the Cudini award.

In 2015, my colleagues, scientists, doctors, illusionists and sponsors created a prize named after Harry Houdini, who promised to pay a million rubles for the demonstration of paranormal abilities. We joked that this was to support the "National Extrasonics", otherwise they would be discriminated against.

The specifics of our tests were that the tests were selected for each extra-sense individual, focusing on what he is able to do according to his own statement. Not like in the battle of extrasenses, when everyone is asked to find a person in the trunk. - I said Ed. - Which one? - Ed. - This one? - Yes. - How empty.

Don't forget, the battle of the extrasensors is scientific. Therefore, in our case, the extrasensors had a long discussion of the conditions of the experiment. The final test was consistent to the smallest detail, so that we were sure that the extrasensors would fail it, most likely, but if it is not real, of course, and the extrasensors themselves are sure that it will pass it. And only an experiment independent of us could show who is right and who is not. Everything is like in the meme about the scientific method. Collider!

Our first test was with the finalist of the battle of the ultrasensors Bakhri Dzhumatova. She claimed that she felt money. We had no doubt that she felt money, but there were doubts that she could demonstrate this in the conditions of the correctly set scientific experiment.

The experiment was that we had a room, and in this room there were 10 envelopes, 5 thousand rubles, 9 pieces of paper and 10 more boxes. First, the experimenter number 1 entered this room. A person who accidentally placed 5 thousand rubles in one of the 10 envelopes, in the rest he laid out the papers and mixed everything. Then came the second experimenter, who

accidentally laid out these envelopes in boxes and also left. And then came the third person who already mixed the boxes. It was done so that absolutely no one could tell where the money was. And now the final battle of the astro-sensors comes to us, ignites the good fortune, scatters the sugar, does all sorts of magical rituals and says: "Here are the money in this box."

We open all the boxes, show where the money was, the money was not there. Well, we repeat this experiment and again the money turns out to be not there. We ask what went wrong, she says: "I probably still have a third day of the curfew, maybe I sin, but God does not ask me to do it.

The second test was the same. There was a man who felt where the metal was. Accordingly, the test was exactly the same, only not money was hidden, but metal. And he also failed. Then we had a lot of other tests. We tested very different superpowers. We had a woman who claimed that she felt the energy of people and can compare the energy of an object

with human energy. The test was that we took a dozen young people, they gave us their passports. We glued the passports so that it was impossible to see what was inside. They were, of course, mixed, all these passports, so that it was impossible to calculate. And then we offered her to try to feel the energy of these passports.

that were on the tray above the head of our volunteers. She could have waved her hands over these young people and had to say which passport belonged to which person. As a result, we did such a check. She had to guess at least 6 out of 12 cases. Here is her result. Just N-I-H-U-0.

Similarly, we had tests with people who claimed that they can communicate with spirits of the dead or guess on tarot cards. There, the task was the same, but two different ways to solve this task: communicate with spirits,

to determine under what circumstances that person died. There is one envelope in which the list of death circumstances is shown, it is accidentally mixed. In the second envelope, we have photos of people who died. Someone died in a car accident, someone in a plane crash, someone was bitten by a poisonous snake. Everyone has different circumstances of death. Well, respectively, in the third envelope, the correct answers are prepared in advance. I sat opposite our witnesses,

I didn't know the correct answers. I couldn't tell. After the test subjects gave their answers, we open the envelope and see that again zero. We even had a hypothesis that there is a cursed place here. The test subjects guessed less than by chance they should have guessed. Well, at least the thief could have guessed. But then someone guessed the thief, but still

as a result of an accident. We had a test of people who claim that they feel the aura. This is also very funny, because I emphasize, we always had such a pre-non-blind test before doing the main test. That is, demonstrate for yourself that

Everything is suitable for your demonstration, your abilities. Here come our protesters, two people who see the aura. We show them: here is a man, here are four girls. Do you distinguish their aura? Yes. Great. We put them behind opaque screens. Do you distinguish the aura of people behind opaque screens? Yes.

Great! You leave the room, we mix people, randomly arrange them behind the curtains so that no one could tell you. After that, we invite these extras again, and suddenly the sight of the aura that happened to them so easily and without any effort disappears somewhere. That's it, and they can't guess where the man is, in this case, the man who needs to be found.

of these four girls who are also behind these screens. That is, we saw that the ability for some reason stopped working again as soon as we got a controlled scientific experiment. And so it was every, every, every, every time. Moreover, I am sure that the people who came to us at the Houdini Awards were honest, sincere, because if you are a fraud, if you are a conman,

You know in advance that you will not succeed. Why do you go to this test? No, these are people who really believe that they have some abilities. Well, or at least believed. We did not achieve that they demonstrated their abilities. We have always made no loud conclusion that there are no extrasensory at all. It's just that the ability was not demonstrated. But pay attention to how it turns out that no matter how many extrasensory they are,

There were a lot of such awards, and the James Randi Foundation, and the Houdini Award, and before that, Harry Houdini himself tested the extrasensory, and there are other societies in the world that tested extrasensory, but something, nothing works. You can make your own conclusions.

In short, to this day, no scientific test has confirmed the existence of magicians, extrasensors, telepaths, auras, or anything like that. Although there were a lot of tests. There were a lot of chances to prove to skeptics that we were wrong. Why then educated people, including Tatiana Chernihivska, continue to believe all this naively? And how do they justify the negative results of the tests?

It's time to answer the main mystery of our today's video. If we talk about Tatyana Chernihivska, it feels like she has built a whole philosophical system to justify her position. A special view of the world that allows you to combine scientific knowledge and faith in the paranormal, which she is apparently personally interested in. In one of her interviews, she says that she does not understand how atheists manage to continue

To be honest, I don't understand how atheists manage to continue to live. Because if everything ends in a pit, in which you end up, then there was nothing to start with. The world without God is terrible, says Tatyana Vladimirovna. And here it is really difficult to argue with her. I myself share her fear of death, like most people, although I am an atheist. But the fact that I want something to happen after death does not prove that something really happened after death.

To confirm this is to give out what is desired for the real. Such a false belief can even prevent us from developing approaches to prolong life. And the same can be said about the statements of Tatyana Vladimirovna in the field of parapsychology, ectrosensory and other magic. It would be great if it were. But there is no such thing. Maybe someday we will do something similar with technology.

Telepathy devices are already implemented using wireless networks and neural interfaces. But today we have been convinced that if a person wants to believe in the paranormal, then he will believe. It is also interesting how science turns into a tool for justifying desired non-existent phenomena. It seemed to me that Tatiana Chernihivskaya was trying to explain her beliefs through quantum mechanics and the observer effect.

She even told about it at a meeting with Dalai Lama. "Don't naively think that the quantum world is somewhere else. It's here and it's even within us." The supposed quantum mechanics show that the observer cannot be separated from the observation. And the observer is a person, an experimenter. Thus, Chernihivsky justifies the impossibility of checking the extrasensors with scientific methods.

Because if we put a scientific experiment, then we will thus interfere with the quantum system, and it will no longer work as it did without our scientific intervention. That is, it turns out that the extra sense exists, uses its forces, but as soon as we try to observe it in controlled conditions, the effect of quantum mechanics works and the forces disappear. Nothing will work.

Sounds plausible, like all the sections we discussed earlier, but it works only on those who do not understand quantum mechanics correctly. This misunderstanding even has a name - quantum mysticism.

Oh boy! I'm not a physicist, so I invited a specialist in the field of quantum physics from the United Institute of Nuclear Research in Dubno, Boris Latosh. Together we will figure out what is hidden behind the term "quantum mysticism" and whether one observation can make the extra sense go away. The statement that when

If a person makes any measurements in quantum mechanics and thus violates some kind of natural order and natural laws that occur in the quantum system, it is, of course, false. It is important for us to have a strictly defined set of physical laws that we formulate in the mathematical language. No interpretation of quantum mechanics implies that a person or any other observer can break these physical laws.

Everything that happens will happen according to the physical law, and it is impossible to change it. Can a person be considered a measuring device? The answer here is as vague as the question. To a certain extent - yes, to a certain extent - no. Of course, I can take and measure the distance and say that it is

5 or 2 5s, use their body as a measuring instrument, the accuracy of my measurements will be low. Therefore, physicists and, accordingly, those theories that we develop, they always understand the machine under the measuring instrument. If desired, we can try to extrapolate this to a person, but this extrapolation will not be an intellectual number.

Accordingly, if we talk about some kind of influence of the psyche on what we measure, we, as phoenixes, cannot make such a strong statement. We cannot say that the thoughts of a person somehow influenced what he measured. Of course, the evidence from my point of view, Tatyana Chernihivskaya even remembers the poor cat of Schrödinger, the most probably famous and meme thought experiment. But even there, the consciousness of a person who opens the box to find out whether the poor cat is alive or not,

is not an observer. They are, for example, a device that checks the decay of atoms or not, and it's time to open a capsule with poison killing a cat. Even in the Schrödinger cat experiment, a person cannot influence the outcome of the measurement.

We can't predict it. No quantum mechanics interpretation allows us to predict the result of one specific measurement. But what we can say for sure is that there is no influence. We don't have experiments that would allow us to say that we can sit for a long time, meditate, influence the quantum system, and we will get the result we want, and not the one we get.

Real quantum mechanics have nothing to do with quantum mysticism, and even more so, have nothing to do with the extrasensory, the existence of which has not yet been demonstrated. Alas, such reasoning creates such a pseudo-intellectual gap that allows any nonsense to be spoken with a reference to mysterious, not entirely understandable physical processes. The movement of the box is not a proof of telekinesis, because it can be

explain in a million ways, and the paranormal will be far from the first place on this list. And all this magical thinking is strongly reflected in the words of Chernihiv. She says that if there is no paranormal evidence, then it is not the task of the mediums to find them, but the fault of scientists, that they have not yet been able to do this.

You have to give us proof, you have to tell us how it can happen, you are doing a bad job. And in general, if we don't understand something, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Modern science is not able to understand all the mysteries of the universe and all that stuff. This is a very convenient position in which a person does not need to answer for words at all, prove or argue something.

After all, everything is unrecognizable, you can say anything and not think about the consequences. But it seems to me that if something requires unconditional faith without any evidence, then this is no longer science.

Probably, we can describe two extremes: people who believe in everything and people who do not believe in anything. Most of us are somewhere in the middle, but we are a little inclined in one direction or another. For example, I was very skeptical in advance, so at first I did not believe in the study of "crying plants", but then they sent me an article and I apologized. But I think that it is still better to doubt than to believe. The doubting can be reassured by providing him with sufficient evidence of his mistakes.

to convince the believer is much more problematic. If a person is used to believing without a doubt, especially when it comes to the words of the authorities, then it is very easy for him to fall into the trap of false pseudo-knowledge, from which he will no longer get out. And authorities mean a lot to Tatyana Vladimirovna. For example, in the first 30 minutes of the speech before Dalai Lama, she was able to list 31 authoritative thinkers. This is one person per minute.

David Dubrovsky, Professor Aleksey Uftomsky, Vasily Rozanov, Berdyaev Vladimir Zinchenko, Yuri Lotman, Roger Penrose, Gerald Edelman,

Instead of telling how they came to this or that island,

idea, what they proved or argued their position, that is, instead of telling about the scientific process itself, she quoted funny quotes, often associated with quantum mysticism itself. Moreover, she seems to remind some scientists, well, just to remind. So we learned together with Dalai Lama that she loves Sechenov more than Pavlov, although, quote,

This is her personal business. Or that Grandma Penrose lived in Russia, and her house became the US consulate. And also about who of the greats read the lecture at the seminar, Tatiana Vladimirovna. And this reflects a completely different attitude to science than I am used to seeing among colleagues, when

It doesn't matter how the knowledge was obtained, it matters who said it. And with a approach like Tatyana Vladimirovna's, it is not surprising that the question of the existence of the "extrason" leads to the fact that some figures of science, philosophy or literature have spoken about it, like Natalia Bekhtereva. And it is very sad that such an educated person tells his huge audience

about things, dreams, witches and magicians as something scientifically proven, distorting the idea of ​​reality, covering itself with the authority of science. I sincerely wish Tatyana Vladimirovna long years of health, and I am sure that she has interested many people in the study of the brain, which is certainly wonderful. And yet such a neglect of the facts

does not do her honor. It would be possible to praise Tatyana Vladimirovna at least for her mind open to new and unknown ideas. After all, as the authoritative scientist Carl Sagan said, it is always useful to keep your mind open. However, there was also the second part of the quote, but if you open it too wide, your brains will fall out. Thank you for watching this video to the end. And here is a list of people whose names I will definitely list when meeting Dalai Lama.

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