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CONVERSATORIO VIRTUAL: “SISMOS 2026: LECCIONES Y FUTURO AMBIENTAL”

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[clears throat]

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[clears throat]

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José Alejandro hasn't connected yet.

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Well, we have time.

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Several people are telling me that they are

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clicking on the

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platform link and nothing is happening.

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from YouTube.

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Yes, the guys who are in the group. Did

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you hear that, José Michel?

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It seems the link isn't activated, that's what they

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tell me.

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Ah, but that one, Michel. You have to

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look there. I don't know, activation.

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[laughs]

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Good.

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Good evening.

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My name is Carlos Peñalosa Corredor.

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I am a postgraduate professor at UNET and I

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will have the honor of accompanying you as

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moderator during this

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academic day.

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On behalf of the postgraduate dean's office of the

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National Experimental University of

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Táchira,

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we extend a warm welcome to the

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virtual discussion "Earthquakes 2026,

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Lessons and Environmental Future."

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This event is being broadcast

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live on our

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YouTube channel @posgradounet

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2025.

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We extend a special greeting to the

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university authorities,

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the distinguished panelists

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joining us, the professors,

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researchers, and students,

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as well as the professionals in

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engineering,

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architecture, and

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environmental sciences,

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community representatives, and the

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general public

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who have connected from various

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locations to participate in this

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event.

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This discussion

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is an initiative of the

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Dean of Postgraduate Studies and the

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Specialization

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in Environmental Impact Studies and Assessment

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, with the support of the Department

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of Civil Engineering at the

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National Experimental University of Táchira.

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Their organization

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responds to the need to analyze,

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from an

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interdisciplinary

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and socially responsible scientific perspective,

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the seismic events that have occurred

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recently and the lessons they

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leave for our communities.

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Throughout the day,

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the seismic phenomenon will be examined from

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different closely

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related dimensions.

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The interventions will allow us to move

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from its scientific and

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geological explanation to its

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structural,

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environmental and educational implications,

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thus providing a comprehensive view

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on risk prevention and management

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.

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The holding of this discussion

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also reflects the university's commitment

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to

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specialized training,

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the dissemination of knowledge,

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and addressing the problems that

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affect its environment.

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The university not only studies

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reality, but must also

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contribute to interpreting it,

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communicating it,

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and generating capacities to face its

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challenges responsibly.

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Regarding the dynamics of this event, it will feature

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the participation of five

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panelists,

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each of whom will have a

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maximum of 15 minutes to develop their

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presentation. We invite

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those following the broadcast to

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ask their questions through the

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YouTube channel chat during the

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presentations.

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Once the five

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interventions are completed,

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we will present the

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selected questions to the specialists

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and begin the exchange session

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with the audience, which will last

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20 minutes.

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We thank our panelists for

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accepting this invitation

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and generously sharing their

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knowledge and experiences.

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Likewise, we express our

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gratitude to the university departments

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that made this activity possible and to

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each of the people who are with us today

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.

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Welcome to the virtual discussion "

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Earthquakes 2026,

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Lessons and Environmental Future".

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Next,

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we invite Dr. Miguel Ángel García

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Porras, dean of postgraduate studies at the

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National Experimental University of

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Táchira, to address

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our audience.

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Thank you very much, Dr. Carlos Peañalosa.

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I am extremely grateful for

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the collaboration of

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Professor Marianela Vera for this event, who

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really went out of her way to make this

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activity the best it could be.

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collaborators from the

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postgraduate dean's office through the

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specialization in

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environmental impact assessment and also from the

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civil engineering department of

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our university.

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This is an event that arises from

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the recent problems of

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seismic movements that have occurred in our

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country and that have left a very

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deep mark and with many

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regrets, let's say, where

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more than 5000 people

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have really lost their lives

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. I think we've all

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shed tears over this event, and it's really

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sad to see

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all these images that have just been

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published.

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Earthquakes around the world have had

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very strong repercussions,

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mainly in Chile and Japan.

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Perhaps these are the most emblematic sites

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that have suffered [clearing their throats]

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from these

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telluric calamities.

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Well, I'm not really an expert

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in the area,

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but since it's an academic activity

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and quite current,

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[clears throat] I've given my approval for

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this activity to take place.

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The event, as they have perfectly

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mentioned,

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Earthquakes 2026, injuries and

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environmental future.

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It's an event that [clears throat] brings together

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top-level professionals to

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give us their respective comments and

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explanations, so that

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we at least have more

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information about it.

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I would like to

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thank all the professors

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in the civil engineering department who

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are participating in this activity,

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and especially, as I said at the

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beginning, Professor María Danela

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Vera, who has been a fundamental pillar for

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this activity to take place.

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For my part, I extend the warmest

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welcome and hope

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that we all leave satisfied at the end

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of the presentations.

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Dr. Carlos Peñarosa, you may continue.

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Well, we thank Dr. Miguel Ángel

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García Porra for his words and for the

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institutional support of the dean's office in

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holding this meeting.

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To begin this discussion,

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we will address the seismic dimension

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through the presentation entitled The Science

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Behind the Shaking.

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For its development, we are accompanied by

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Master Nerio Hurtado.

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Hurtado is a civil engineer, graduated from

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the University of Zulia, with a

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master's degree dedicated to the

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seismic-resistant structural design of buildings and

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bridges. This comprehensive career path has been

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combined with project management,

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university teaching,

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and private consulting, giving her

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a holistic view of the

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complete cycle of civil works, from

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highly complex mathematical modeling

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to the inspection and

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evaluation of civil works.

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Magíst Hurtado, welcome to this

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discussion.

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From this moment on, you have the

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floor and you have 15 minutes to

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develop your presentation.

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Please allow me a moment to make the

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presentation.

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The presentation is already here.

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Yes, it looks perfectly

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fine. Okay.

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Good evening to the authorities of

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the National Experimental University of

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Táchir,

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to the postgraduate dean, to the

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criminal law colleagues and panelists, and to the entire

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student and professional community that is

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joining us in this

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virtual discussion.

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The recent seismic events that

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shook the La Guaira region

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last month have left a deep

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human and technical mark on us.

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And in those, those traces they leave on

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us have created many doubts and

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many questions.

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Among those questions, the ones

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we ask ourselves or that people

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have asked, are, for example, why are there

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two exactly identical buildings

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located next to each other? It did not collapse

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drastically and the other remained

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practically intact.

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Also, how is it possible to build

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safely on soft or

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waterlogged ground where the soil seems to

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tragically disappear in the face of such

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events?

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How does a structure respond when it

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has to withstand not one, but two

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consecutive earthquakes

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that strike it from different directions?

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And ultimately, what is the best

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solution that engineering offers us?

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Uh, I'm engineer Neri Hurtado and in

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the next 12 minutes I'm going to

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show you that the answer to these

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questions is not a matter of chance or bad

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luck, it's strictly physical laws

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and understanding these laws is what

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we call the science behind

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shaking. Let

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's start where all

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buildings begin: with the land.

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There is a popular belief that

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earthquakes affect everyone equally in the

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same area.

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Science shows us the opposite

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through the site effect.

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When seismic waves travel

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through deep rock, they go

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faster. On compact rocky terrain, the

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wave travels faster, but with little

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amplitude.

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But when it enters soft strata,

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as is the case there in La Guaira, or

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clayey, sandy terrains,

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like those that abound there in La Guaira,

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the wave slows down, the wave is slower

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in speed, but its amplitude increases,

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as can be seen here in general terms.

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In rocky, solid, and well-

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consolidated terrain, the

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seismic wave moves at high speeds, while

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in soft terrain it moves at

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slow speeds, but the

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amplitude of the wave is small in the rocky terrain and

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greater in soft terrain.

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Therefore, in these types of soil, the

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wave slows down, but due to

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conservation of energy, it

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violently multiplies its amplitude. Added to this is

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a critical phenomenon in this type of

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salary. Uh, these types of terrains

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that are granular and saturated

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with water. The cyclical shaking of

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the Earth causes an increase in the pressure in

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the water that is in the

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spaces. Uh, [clears throat] and these

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spaces, when pressed, release the

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water, they become empty and that's where the soil loses its

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load-bearing or support capacity

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.

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So what is the

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engineering answer?

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If we have land with a risk of

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liquefaction

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or soft clays, then a

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direct foundation using footings or foundation slabs

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is destined to overturn.

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The only solution for this type of

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terrain is to make

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deep foundations, in this case of the pile type,

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until it reaches the

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solid, rocky, hard stratum that is capable of

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withstanding the actions required by the

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building [clearing his throat] as a support.

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Why did one building collapse and the one next to it

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not?

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We arrive at the great enigma that reveals and

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unravels the population. That's the big

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question we all ask ourselves when

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we see those images. Therefore, the

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technical answer lies in

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seismic tuning. That's what we call

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resonance in seismics.

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Each building, each building according to its

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height, mass and rigidity, has a

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rhythm, its own rhythm to balance,

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which we call the natural period of the

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building. So, the natural period

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of the building is the time it takes for a

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building to swing from one

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end to the other and complete

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that cycle. So, that's what

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we call the natural period of

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vibration.

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If the earthquake that passes through the ground brings

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a wave whose period coincides

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exactly with the period of the building,

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the phenomenon of resonance occurs. In other words,

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what I mean is that if this wave

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takes the same time to travel from one

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end to the other and it coincides with the

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building's time, the building will

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resonate and there's no way it won't

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collapse. It's a building that's going to

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collapse, without a doubt.

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Uh, the forces not only add up when

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this happens, but they multiply

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exponentially when it

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resonates.

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For example, if two identical twin buildings

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are on the same ground, but there is a

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subtle variation in the floor

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where one building is supported

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compared to the other, or if one of them

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has some architectural modification

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that changed its rigidity, one will

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resonate and collapse, while the

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other will barely feel the earthquake.

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Furthermore, earthquakes there do

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n't come alone. There was an initial

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event that damaged the microstructure

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of the concrete and caused

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cracking of the components. When

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the second consecutive earthquake or

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aftershock occurs in the orthogonal direction, it

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attacks a structure whose period has already been

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lengthened by previous damage, leading

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these buildings to

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final collapse, if they were not designed with

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sufficient redundancy, that is, with

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high resistance.

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Well, then, faced with these

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seismic forces, which are what make the

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building

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sway because the ground

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moves the structure from one side to

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the other in one direction. Faced with

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these horizontal forces,

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how do we design?

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How do we design the building's skeleton

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? be the structure of the

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building.

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Here, engineering is torn between

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two major philosophies: ductility or

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rigidity. Ductility, the ability to

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deform. Rigidity, the ability to

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deform without losing strength.

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In framed systems there are

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framed systems like the one we

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are seeing here, beams, beams and

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columns made of concrete or steel. And

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these systems are based on the

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same principle as

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a vehicle's chassis, which, when it suffers

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an impact from a collision, deforms

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at strategic points to dissipate the

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enormous energy generated by the impact,

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but the vehicle's passenger compartment, for

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example, remains intact; there is no damage to the

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vehicle. No, that's what happens, that's what

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engineering tries to do, creating

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those fuses that are generated

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here in the beam and that are not

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generated in the column, which is what

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we call the plastic hinge,

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so that the beam fails and

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the column does not fail, because if the

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column fails, well, the building collapses. We

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also have shear wall systems

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. or tunnel, uh, tunnel of

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perpendicular walls, right?, which are very commonly

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used, by the way, in Chile. Uh, and

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that system is based on rigidity.

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It uses continuous reinforced concrete walls

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to resist displacement almost to zero

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, that is, it allows

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very minimal displacement, which is what

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displacement control, which

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we call drift in

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engineering, is all about, right? It provides

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extraordinary protection to the

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partition walls and finishes, friezes,

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although it absorbs very

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high forces and that requires that the foundations

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be very robust when on

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hard soils, this type of building

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is founded on a foundation slab of

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up to 1 meter or more in thickness. And if it's

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on soft ground, then they

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are headers of considerable height

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. And we also have another

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system which is the steel system with

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anchors,

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concentric anchors or

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eccentric anchors, concentric ones that are right in

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the center and eccentric ones that are

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a little bit away from the center. Uh,

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those arresters are what will

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function like a rifle, like these

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fuses, that is, when the earthquake comes,

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they will absorb the vibration and

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deform, but after the earthquake they

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can be removed and replaced by

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another system, by other

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arresters.

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Which one is the best? Well, there isn't a

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single system among these that we can

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say is superior. The best

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system

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is one whose design considers the ground on which

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the building rests, respects the

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criteria of regularity

24:44

and ductile detailing, because what

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we seek in engineering is a

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ductile failure, not a brittle failure that is

24:53

explosive and leads to

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immediate collapse.

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To conclude my remarks in this

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discussion,

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I want to leave a central message

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for our entire audience and the

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academic community of UNECT. The

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primary objective of

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earthquake-resistant engineering

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is not to build an

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infinitely rigid building that doesn't move,

25:25

because the force of nature

25:28

will always overcome the brutal resistance

25:31

of the materials. The real objective

25:34

is to design an intelligent,

25:37

ductile, well-founded structure that is capable

25:41

of deforming, dissipating energy and

25:43

remaining standing, thus guaranteeing that

25:46

people can evacuate alive.

25:51

Disasters like those in La Guaira

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shouldn't be attributed to fate, should they?

25:59

Well, integration—

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rigorously integrating

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geotechnical studies,

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dynamic analysis, and ethics in construction—

26:12

are the guarantees that our

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cities will be truly

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resilient.

26:19

Thank you very much for your attention.

26:31

Thank you very much,

26:32

Engineer Nerioado, for your input.

26:37

Once we have examined

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the fundamentals of the seismic phenomenon,

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we will move on

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to the geological context

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that allows us to understand its manifestation

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in Venezuelan territory.

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To develop the presentation The faults

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of Venezuela

27:00

we are accompanied by the geological engineer José

27:02

Alejandro Sequera.

27:05

José Alejandro Sequera is a

27:08

geological engineer and professor in the

27:11

civil engineering department of the

27:13

National Experimental University of Táchira,

27:16

where he is involved in

27:18

teaching applied geology. His

27:21

field of expertise includes the

27:23

geological and geotechnical analysis of the

27:26

territory.

27:27

Engineer Sequera, we appreciate your

27:29

participation. We

27:32

give you the floor to develop

27:35

your presentation during the next

27:39

15 minutes.

28:14

Go ahead,

28:17

professor.

28:20

José Alejandro,

28:24

microphone.

28:28

Okay, now I'm ready.

28:32

Yes, good afternoon. Thank you for the

28:34

invitation to this discussion.

28:38

Interesting,

28:40

considering the situation we have been

28:42

experiencing in the last few months.

28:47

So, the topic I'm going to address is

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facing failures. That's a very

28:54

complicated issue, very low

29:00

minimum

29:02

for biological resources to remain available, they

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are

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simply

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the result

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of an action of effort that can be

29:21

both pressure

29:24

and separation

29:27

in a material. That's why there are

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several types

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of failure.

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The following line

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is

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simply the definition.

29:43

In the previous one we have, right now there is the

29:46

model, those of the most frequent types of failure

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,

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such as the one where

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the block slides over the other

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block, it is called the

30:03

low-speed failure due to the effect of compression. In the

30:09

case of the failure, the same applies, but

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the other one rises, which would be the one where

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the block that suffers compression breaks or divides.

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In our case, what we have

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in recent events

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is a

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transcurrent fault that moves from one side to the

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other due to the same conditions

30:52

. Let's

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continue.

30:57

Uh, faults are precisely a product of

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the movements we have in the entire

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lithosphere. It is composed of a series of

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floating plates.

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The lithosphere is relatively rigid and the

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stenosphere is relatively plastic.

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All these

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blocks,

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as we're calling them, are plates, they

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float on material, and remember that

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they talked

31:38

about the theory of

31:43

Earth's migration, it's precisely that the

31:46

blocks separated due to

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the movement of the

31:52

entire lithosphere around the Earth. That's all.

31:59

In Martian

32:01

studies, apparently there was some

32:06

plate movement, but that's where the change in

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the Earth's plate structure ended, and that's why there's

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approximately

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14 or 15 large plates and almost 40

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small plates that move all the

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time. Uh, these ones we're talking about are,

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let's say, the main ones.

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Let's move on to the next one. L.

32:38

Uh, what we were able to do here was to draw

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attention

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to the plates that really

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concern us, the ones that cause us the most

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problems, which are the contact between the

32:53

South American plate and the Caribbean plate, if you

32:56

see it there I have marked with a

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black line, because that is where we have

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had

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all the problems.

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last.

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They see how plates,

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both the North American Plate

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and the Cocos Plate, reach us there, causing a

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lot of problems in Panama

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because look

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where all that Caribbean Plate, the

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Cocos Plate, and the Caribbean Plate converge. We have a problem

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because to the north the

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Caribbean Plate moves towards the North American

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Plate, which moves westwards. That's why

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we have an

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east-west contact guideline from the Caribbean here in

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South America.

33:56

We continue

34:00

there, calling from the FR, which is precisely

34:06

contact between the two here in the Caribbean,

34:10

America. If you look within the

34:15

delimitation, those two plates take into account

34:18

the important faults

34:22

that bother us the most because that happens

34:27

precisely in North and South America,

34:31

more seriously in

34:33

Venezuela, which is up there.

34:36

So I've been saying that a

34:44

fault within

34:49

a contact zone is not a

34:52

line, it's a

34:56

plane, a line

35:00

of fractures and cracks that logically become

35:06

faults, but it's a fault in all

35:09

cases

35:11

of San Sebastián. These are fault systems that

35:15

allow, in quotes, that

35:19

movement between the Caribbean and

35:23

South American plates. That means we have

35:27

measured

35:30

five per

35:31

year that can be more expensive.

35:36

We can see the next one.

35:40

That's

35:42

showing more attention to the strip. That

35:48

strip can be up to 100 km wide.

35:54

What is the strip, the two plates. Uh,

35:58

notice that the plate

36:02

in the case has been

36:05

measured from the system failure of

36:12

the body of the failure, the contact between two

36:18

rocks has been

36:19

measured and up to km.

36:25

of the fault. Imagine the entire

36:28

set

36:29

of system failures with

36:35

the

36:38

important pillar.

36:40

We can continue.

36:46

Here, the fault system shows

36:50

a bit of

36:52

the system

36:55

that

37:00

we are in,

37:08

and of course, there in

37:13

the area you see a significant number of

37:18

faults that make up the

37:23

fault system of that area. We continue.

37:30

That's a risk

37:33

that always gets the

37:38

red zone, which coincides with all of us who

37:42

have been there.

37:44

Unfortunately, circumstantially,

37:51

eh,

37:53

history, climate, etc. Those are the

37:57

areas where we are most

38:00

likely to have a problem

38:05

. Let's

38:07

continue.

38:11

That's more or less what it's about, the

38:13

contact of the

38:16

board, the contact of the board

38:21

ahead, let's see another graphic. These

38:25

are the contacts. That's the plate

38:29

problem in the north: there are two plates

38:35

next to that dotted area where there is

38:39

the greatest energy that is released and

38:43

through which

38:50

the other one is produced.

38:52

That's what we just

38:56

saw. You see

38:58

how

39:05

this fault is simply the same,

39:09

but this is a connection to what is the

39:12

Pacific,

39:15

the famous fault of that movement.

39:19

We have always spoken of Andrés

39:22

as very important, if it is important that

39:26

we have in good condition, it has

39:30

the only thing that in the case of the Pacific and

39:33

North American plates are much larger

39:37

than that of the plate of good condition is

39:42

important.

39:45

We can continue.

39:48

It's a deal based on

39:54

confidential studies, what happened in La Guaira on the

39:59

9th when the avalanches occurred,

40:05

but that gives it so much name, the flow of up to

40:10

Vada

40:12

apparently

40:14

is a term that in Madher

40:18

Someone told him that it was that of event.

40:23

Uh, the amount

40:26

that was done around '99. It made an

40:32

aluminum fill,

40:34

uh, which they see as the fault,

40:39

which I've already mentioned, passes

40:43

underneath everything that I know was there.

40:48

Well, logically

40:51

nothing is wrong with it. What I mean is

40:52

that in the case of a movement

40:55

like the one that occurred, the

40:58

material used to construct the building can

41:01

lead to a phenomenon

41:05

that has apparently been discussed,

41:09

and that's why there were so many buildings

41:12

in that

41:15

area, because the sudden movement

41:21

that probably occurred affected

41:25

the material where those

41:28

foundations were located, and that's where it produced...

41:32

those are theories that can

41:37

practically be validated with all the

41:40

past events, and that's more or less why I'm

41:46

drawing attention to it. It

41:50

can have a connection with all the events I've

42:00

previously

42:02

mentioned;

42:04

there are many more that can be expanded upon.

42:09

Uh, we're at your service for any questions you may have,

42:14

and thank you very much for the opportunity to

42:17

introduce myself to you.

42:30

We thank

42:31

engineer José Sequera for the

42:34

shared information.

42:38

We remind the audience that they can

42:43

ask their questions via the

42:47

YouTube chat. These questions will be

42:50

collected, passed on to the

42:53

panelists, and at the end of the

42:55

presentations they will provide answers.

43:02

Okay, once

43:04

the geological context has been examined, it's time to

43:08

consider how these phenomena

43:13

can affect our buildings. I now give

43:16

the floor

43:18

to engineer Simón Vallesteros,

43:22

who will speak about structural pathology:

43:26

your house and your safe community.

43:30

Simón Vallesteros is a civil engineer and

43:34

professor in the civil engineering department

43:36

of the National

43:38

Experimental University of Táchira.

43:41

Participated in the analysis and development

43:45

of road, transport and

43:48

infrastructure projects of regional importance

43:51

and construction pathology of the works.

43:55

This discussion

43:57

will address building safety

44:01

and the preventive identification of damage

44:04

after a seismic event. Engineers

44:07

Ballesteros, it is an honor to have you here

44:09

. You

44:10

may begin your presentation

44:13

and have 15 minutes to present

44:16

the proposed topic.

44:26

Good evening. I thank the

44:29

organizing committee of this discussion and

44:32

especially the two professors who spoke

44:36

before me because they have captured

44:39

exactly

44:40

half of the problem that brings us together today

44:42

. The first presentation, from a

44:45

symbolic perspective, characterizes the threat,

44:50

the seismic source, the recurrence of

44:52

events, and the nature of the

44:55

ground movement.

44:57

And the second, from geology,

45:00

shows us the medium over which

45:02

the movement is transmitted and amplified,

45:06

the soils, the site effects that

45:10

make the same earthquake not shake

45:14

two buildings

45:17

separated by a street in the same way. My intervention

45:20

closes this equation.

45:23

Seismic risk is the product of the threat that has

45:28

already been discussed due to the vulnerability

45:32

of what we build on that land.

45:36

I am a specialist in

45:38

structural pathology, a discipline that studies the

45:41

damage and injury of buildings,

45:44

their causes and their evolution. And in the

45:47

next few minutes I want to transfer to you

45:50

a specific skill: reading the

45:55

signs that a house manifests

45:59

after a sign. Distinguishing between a

46:02

superficial injury and a

46:04

structural injury, and knowing when that reading

46:08

requires leaving and calling a

46:12

specialist professional in the area. Let's

46:21

see,

46:27

every reading of damages begins by

46:31

distinguishing

46:32

two elements, or rather,

46:37

categories of elements. On one side, the

46:39

system that resists,

46:42

that which receives the loads

46:46

and conducts them, will conduct them to

46:49

the ground. In our homes, this

46:53

system is made up of

46:56

columns, beams, slabs, and

47:00

foundations.

47:03

And if there are walls, those

47:05

load-bearing walls, these elements will define

47:09

the path of those loads. They will start in

47:13

the slabs; the weight and forces

47:16

of the earthquake travel from the slab to the beam,

47:20

from the beam to the column, and from the column

47:23

to my foundation. On the other hand, there are the

47:26

non-structural elements, which are the

47:29

partitions or walls, the friezes,

47:33

the finishes such as, that is, the

47:36

coverings, ceramics, granite,

47:39

etc., and the ceilings accompany

47:42

the structure,

47:43

they deform with it and that is why they are usually

47:46

the first to crack, to

47:49

fissure, but no, that does not

47:53

mean that they will support it.

47:55

From this distinction derives the first

47:58

diagnostic criterion

48:01

that I want you to remember.

48:05

Severe damage to a partition or

48:10

wall is a repair problem.

48:13

Okay?

48:18

It's a repair problem.

48:21

The hierarchy of the affected element

48:25

weighs more than the appearance of the damage. We must

48:29

distinguish what supports from what does

48:31

not. It is [snort] the basis of everything

48:33

else.

48:35

However, cracking is the most

48:39

frequent symptom we will see after

48:41

an earthquake and it is also the worst

48:45

interpreted. [snort] In structural pathology we

48:49

don't diagnose

48:51

only by the width of the opening, but

48:55

by three variables.

48:57

Where is? What orientation does it have? And

49:00

what morphology does

49:03

[snort] present in the column we see here?

49:07

The green one that is generally non-

49:11

structural. The cracks

49:13

appear in a frieze,

49:18

okay? As we can see here in the figure, there is

49:22

cracking in the masonry. They

49:25

are in non-structural elements,

49:29

[snort] eh they require repair, but it

49:32

is not a sign of evacuation.

49:35

In the next column, under the

49:38

structural signal that needs attention,

49:41

there are three signs of compromise of the

49:43

resistant system. First, the

49:46

cracks that appear there in the

49:49

column show me a

49:53

shear failure. [snort] The

49:55

fragli rupture mechanism that worries us the most

49:58

.

50:00

Second, the crumbling of the

50:02

concrete,

50:04

the loss of coating,

50:07

and third, the exposed and bulging steel.

50:14

That indicates that the core of that element has

50:18

already worked beyond its capacity. The

50:21

operating rule in these cases is the location

50:24

and orientation of the crack. They are

50:28

more important than their size. A

50:31

1 mm angled crack in a column is more

50:35

serious than a 1 cm crack in a

50:38

wall.

50:41

[snort]

50:42

Damages

50:45

are not an all-or-nothing matter. There is

50:49

progression by degrees and

50:53

international post-seismic assessment methodologies

50:56

classify them on scales such as those we

50:59

see here: minor,

51:03

moderate, severe, complete. The

51:07

minor degree of cracking is limited

51:11

to finishes, non-structural elements,

51:13

or in this case, structural elements, but

51:15

the concrete suffers minimal damage; it peels, but does

51:20

not disintegrate. In moderate degrees

51:23

we see visible cracking that

51:25

affects some elements of the

51:28

resistant system. In this case,

51:31

the property presented here needs or

51:34

warrants a technical review before

51:36

giving it full confidence. in

51:40

severe damage, severe severity, spatial collapse

51:44

with risk of collapse and in the

51:47

full degree. Ah, okay, it's partial

51:51

and we have to evict him

51:55

completely. It is important to understand that

51:59

the degree of damage is not determined by the

52:03

perception of the person who is

52:04

there, but is confirmed by a

52:06

technical evaluation.

52:08

[snort]

52:13

There is a set of conditions that do not

52:16

allow for deliberation.

52:19

If they are present, they are evacuated

52:22

and assessed afterwards. The building is

52:26

leaning, there are large cracks or

52:28

visible trusses, there are

52:31

loose walls, the doors are

52:36

warped.

52:38

Okay. There are diagonal cracks larger than 5

52:41

mm.

52:44

Any of these five conditions

52:49

creates a risk of collapse.

52:52

When in doubt, there is only one correct course of action

52:57

. You have to go out and

53:01

you have to request a

53:04

professional evaluation.

53:10

After a seismic event,

53:12

technical agencies deploy a

53:14

rapid habitability assessment.

53:17

[snort][throat clearing]

53:19

As a result,

53:23

three tags are communicated. It is essential

53:26

to understand what each one means and, above

53:29

all, what it does not mean. The green label

53:33

means that the dwelling is

53:37

habitable.

53:39

Uh, it doesn't mean there's nothing to

53:42

repair, there may be minor damage

53:44

pending. The yellow tag,

53:48

[snort]

53:49

there is restricted access, there is

53:51

limited entry and for a short time, uh,

53:54

typically for removing belongings. It doesn't

53:58

mean it's safe to stay and live

54:00

there. And the red tag means no access

54:04

allowed. And note, it does not mean that

54:06

the building is irreparable, it

54:10

means that its current state is not

54:13

safe, and the decision about its

54:16

future corresponds to a very

54:19

detailed evaluation. Subsequently, a principle

54:22

that should not be negotiated is that the

54:24

label is placed by the accredited inspection body

54:28

. Nobody self-evaluates

54:32

a home, neither to condemn it nor to

54:35

absorb it. Rapid assessment is

54:39

a technical act with consequences for

54:42

human lives.

54:46

In structural pathology, not only do they

54:51

diagnose years, they identify the

54:54

existing conditions that make them

54:57

probable in our environment and we

55:00

basically visualize it right now with

55:03

the earthquake of June 24, there are

55:08

four recurring configurations

55:11

that an earthquake takes its toll on.

55:15

The first one, the short column.

55:18

The column shortens

55:21

when a sill or high window

55:24

partially restricts a column; the

55:26

free cement becomes short and rigid.

55:30

It concentrates the shear stress demand

55:31

and fails in a brittle manner before

55:36

the rest of the structure.

55:39

In the second case, that of a soft floor,

55:41

the ground floor of a building

55:44

is generally intended for commerce or

55:46

parking

55:48

and creates an irregularity of rigidity in

55:52

elevation. [snort]

55:53

There is a level that is noticeably more flexible

55:57

than the upper ones, where

56:00

the deformation is concentrated and which tends to collapse

56:03

first. This mechanism is

56:07

behind many of the collapses we saw

56:10

in La Guaira.

56:13

extensions without calculation. Uh, each

56:16

level added uh on top of a structure

56:20

that was designed to receive it

56:23

increases its weight [snort] and with

56:25

it creates the force, I mean, not only does it

56:28

create seismic force, it also

56:30

increases. In addition to introducing

56:32

irregularities that the original design

56:35

does not contemplate. And the fourth

56:39

scenario is building without a

56:42

geotechnical study. Here he returns to the point

56:45

that

56:47

the best structural design

56:50

may be the best of the

56:52

best, but it does not compensate for a foundation

56:55

supported on soil whose behavior

56:58

is unknown.

57:05

What is the fundamental solution?

57:09

Earthquake-resistant design. And it is worth clarifying his

57:12

philosophy. Why is it often misunderstood?

57:16

An earthquake-resistant building or structure

57:20

is not designed to not

57:22

move or not get damaged. It is

57:25

designed to deform, to

57:28

dissipate energy and even cause damage,

57:31

but without losing its ability to

57:33

support itself. The performance objective is

57:36

one: to avoid collapse in order to protect

57:39

life.

57:42

And a word of caution about the part where

57:46

structures are repaired,

57:49

because that's my area of ​​expertise.

57:52

Repairing without technical expertise can leave

57:55

the structure in worse condition than

57:57

before. Repairing a crack

58:01

with mortar is cosmetic, it's not a

58:03

repair. Hiding the symptom without

58:07

restoring the element's resistance capacity

58:09

. Structural repair

58:12

requires a prior diagnosis and its

58:15

priority is not to erase the

58:17

remnant marks, but to ensure that the

58:19

structure regains its strength and

58:22

rigidity. Prevention, gentlemen, begins

58:25

with design, not in the emergency.

58:28

And to conclude, I

58:31

hope we take

58:34

the following into account. One, distinguish what

58:38

supports from what does not. That is the first

58:42

filter of any diagnosis.

58:44

Uh, two, recognize the signs that

58:48

compel you to leave.

58:50

Those are not up for debate. And three, act

58:54

prudently and prepare conscientiously.

58:58

The evaluation is done by the professionals,

59:02

but the first reading is yours.

59:06

My contacts are on the screen, okay? And there's the one from

59:10

the

59:14

Civil Engineering department's email.

59:16

Um, I want to say, on behalf of the three

59:19

professors

59:22

from the Department of

59:25

Seismic Engineering, Geology and Pathology,

59:29

we are completely at your service for

59:32

any consultation, evaluation or

59:34

technical support that you or your

59:38

community may need. Thank you so much.

59:51

Thank you very much,

59:55

engineer Simón Vallesteros, for your

59:58

guidance.

1:00:00

The analysis

1:00:03

of the buildings now leads us

1:00:05

to an equally

1:00:08

relevant dimension.

1:00:10

the environmental consequences

1:00:12

following a seismic event.

1:00:15

For this purpose,

1:00:17

Dr. Marianela Vera will come,

1:00:20

focusing on the environmental impact

1:00:24

the day after the disaster.

1:00:27

Marianela Vera

1:00:30

is an engineer and PhD specializing in

1:00:32

environmental management and impact with several

1:00:35

years of experience as an

1:00:36

environmental consultant and certified auditor.

1:00:40

In addition to being a university professor in the

1:00:42

environmental field, she currently serves

1:00:45

as head of the

1:00:47

postgraduate program, specialization,

1:00:49

studies and environmental impact assessment

1:00:51

at UNET.

1:00:53

Okay, we remind the audience that

1:00:56

they can submit their questions to the

1:00:58

YouTube chat as each of the

1:01:00

speakers develops their

1:01:04

presentations.

1:01:05

Dr. Vera, thank you for joining us.

1:01:09

You now have the floor and

1:01:11

15 minutes to present

1:01:13

your talk.

1:01:17

Well, thank you Professor Carlos for that

1:01:20

presentation

1:01:22

and good evening to everyone

1:01:24

present.

1:01:26

In this section, as you already

1:01:27

announced, I invite everyone present

1:01:32

at this discussion to

1:01:35

reflect on a

1:01:37

fundamental question. that we tend to overlook

1:01:40

in times of crisis. What happens to

1:01:43

the environment after an earthquake? Because

1:01:46

we already know, from our point of

1:01:49

view, all the tragedies

1:01:51

that human beings experience. But what about

1:01:53

the rest of the environment? When

1:01:56

an earthquake occurs, the

1:01:59

immediate focus is on the

1:02:01

visible structural damage, as

1:02:04

all our previous

1:02:07

speakers, especially Professor

1:02:10

Simón, have already pointed out. But today we want to talk about the day

1:02:14

after the disaster, about that

1:02:16

silent environmental crisis that is being unleashed

1:02:20

and how we must prepare to

1:02:24

face it.

1:02:27

Well, first of all, of

1:02:29

course, to address this issue it is

1:02:31

key to solidify the concept of what

1:02:34

environmental impact is, right? defined as

1:02:39

the change in the environment, adverse or

1:02:42

beneficial, resulting from an activity

1:02:45

that interacts with and produces effects on the

1:02:48

environment.

1:02:50

Of course, in this case

1:02:53

, the changes were more

1:02:55

adverse than beneficial, weren't they? Uh,

1:03:00

when an earthquake shakes a region,

1:03:03

the environment suffers

1:03:06

severe disturbances. and immediate. The soil,

1:03:10

water sources, and

1:03:12

local ecosystems are drastically altered. The

1:03:16

premise of this presentation is that

1:03:20

we understand that the

1:03:22

environmental consequences do not end when the Earth

1:03:25

stops shaking. On the contrary,

1:03:28

they generate aftereffects that last for

1:03:32

months and even years.

1:03:38

As we see in these images,

1:03:40

after an earthquake, the

1:03:43

priority and indisputable attention is focused on

1:03:46

the human emergency. Yes. Saving lives,

1:03:50

searching for survivors, and stabilizing

1:03:53

structures that pose an

1:03:56

imminent danger. However, in

1:03:59

parallel, it is vital to activate a rapid

1:04:02

assessment of the environmental impacts.

1:04:06

Because? Because if we ignore

1:04:09

broken pipes, accumulated waste,

1:04:11

or exposed or released toxic substances

1:04:14

, we risk

1:04:16

triggering a second crisis—

1:04:21

a local health and ecological emergency

1:04:23

that will deepen the suffering of

1:04:28

the affected community.

1:04:30

Sorry.

1:04:33

Okay, let's analyze the first

1:04:36

affected element, which is the air. The collapse

1:04:39

of these buildings generates a

1:04:43

dense cloud of suspended dust that

1:04:46

causes acute respiratory problems,

1:04:49

but the danger goes beyond the

1:04:53

ground, doesn't it? From the [clearing of the throat]

1:04:55

fine earth, from the dust, because there are many

1:04:57

old buildings, very old buildings that

1:05:01

release highly dangerous substances

1:05:04

such as asphalt and lead.

1:05:07

Additionally, here gas leaks,

1:05:10

collateral fires, and the

1:05:13

organic decomposition that begins to occur

1:05:17

under the rubble contaminate the

1:05:20

atmosphere with harmful gases and bad

1:05:23

odors. Finally, the structures that

1:05:26

remain standing with moisture damage become

1:05:29

breeding grounds for

1:05:32

mold and spores that seriously affect

1:05:36

public health, right? Yes.

1:05:38

Because it affects the entire

1:05:41

respiratory system. Uh-huh

1:05:45

. And what about water resources?

1:05:49

Yes, water resources. Here the impact is

1:05:52

usually catastrophic.

1:05:55

Fractures in water and

1:05:58

sewer systems cause

1:06:02

cross-contamination, where wastewater and

1:06:05

fecal matter mix with

1:06:09

drinking water,

1:06:10

increasing the risk of

1:06:12

epidemic outbreaks such as

1:06:16

cholera, hepatitis, and gastroenteritis.

1:06:18

Severe. In addition, we observed high

1:06:21

sedimentation in rivers due to the runoff of

1:06:25

mud and fine debris, as well as the

1:06:27

leaching of household chemicals and

1:06:30

hydrocarbons into

1:06:33

underground aquifers. In coastal areas,

1:06:35

as in the case of what happened there in La

1:06:37

Guaira or in the Basins, the

1:06:41

inadequate disposal of debris, the much-

1:06:44

mentioned debris that we have

1:06:45

heard about there, right? This, and

1:06:48

the landslides block all

1:06:52

the rivers, uh, they form hazardous lagoons

1:06:54

and destroy

1:06:58

aquatic ecosystems.

1:07:01

Well, and if we go to the case of the soil,

1:07:04

it suffers on three fronts.

1:07:08

Firstly, there is the chemical pollution

1:07:11

generated by absorbing all the

1:07:14

spilled fuels, metals, and

1:07:17

industrial substances, right? They all

1:07:20

eliminate native microfauna and

1:07:23

degrade its fertility. Microfauna is

1:07:26

that which we do not see, but which is embedded

1:07:29

within the soil. Secondly,

1:07:32

the massive accumulation of

1:07:35

debris also suffocates the land and alters

1:07:40

biodiversity.

1:07:42

Also, thirdly, the fracturing of

1:07:45

the vegetation layer in our hillside areas

1:07:47

, as is the case, for example, in

1:07:48

our Andean areas, critically increases

1:07:52

the risk of erosion. The

1:07:55

mudflows and

1:07:58

subsequent landslides with the arrival of the

1:08:00

rains, something already known in

1:08:03

the Guaira area, as they have already

1:08:05

experienced it on previous occasions.

1:08:09

Okay. Well, you see, the

1:08:11

accumulation of debris that has been

1:08:13

mentioned so much here has effects,

1:08:15

right? Quite

1:08:17

significant ones, because it suffocates and destroys

1:08:20

marine habitats. Uh, it gives

1:08:24

chemical pollution to the water, yes,

1:08:27

from everything that is the sea. It reduces

1:08:30

sunlight, which is essential for all

1:08:33

living things, all the fish, the

1:08:35

algae, all those that are there in the

1:08:38

sea, on those coasts. Of course it

1:08:41

modifies everything that is part of the

1:08:43

coastal relief and of course it causes a

1:08:46

significant socio-economic impact because

1:08:49

if we alter all these habitats,

1:08:52

logically there will be fewer fish

1:08:55

and those fishermen who live off

1:08:58

that activity will be deeply

1:09:01

affected.

1:09:05

In the case of the impact on plants and

1:09:08

animals, we cannot forget about

1:09:11

these sentient beings, right? Like

1:09:14

our little animals and the flora.

1:09:17

Earthquakes fragment

1:09:20

entire habitats, displace

1:09:22

wild and domestic animals, and break the

1:09:25

food chains and trophic levels that

1:09:28

exist there, as shown here in

1:09:31

these images. Yes, this is a

1:09:33

picture of a dog rescue,

1:09:36

right? Well, that's

1:09:38

significant, isn't it? What happened here? And the

1:09:41

case, of course, of the loss of

1:09:43

vegetation cover and the collapse of the

1:09:46

environment [clears throat]

1:09:48

directly impacts local biodiversity,

1:09:51

then demanding rescue protocols

1:09:54

and emergency veterinary care

1:09:57

within the contingency plans,

1:09:59

which thank God we have also

1:10:02

seen right now there in the

1:10:05

central area where the earthquake occurred, that they

1:10:08

have provided and rescued

1:10:10

many of those pets and

1:10:12

animals.

1:10:15

Well, needless to say, the social impact is

1:10:20

extremely significant, isn't it? The

1:10:23

environmental impact here translates

1:10:25

directly into a social impact. We see

1:10:28

how the quality of life is fracturing.

1:10:30

Children face disruption to their

1:10:33

education and health.

1:10:35

Social capital is destroyed and support networks become saturated

1:10:38

. Displaced families must

1:10:41

adapt to life in

1:10:44

temporary shelters while dealing with the

1:10:46

collapse of basic

1:10:49

water, transport, and energy services. All of this

1:10:52

generates an invisible but

1:10:55

profound consequence on people's mental health

1:10:58

, causing prolonged states of alertness

1:11:00

, post-traumatic stress, and

1:11:04

insomnia in both children and adults.

1:11:10

So, given this scenario, what are

1:11:12

the solutions from civil engineering

1:11:15

and environmental impact assessment?

1:11:18

Well, here we propose five

1:11:21

fundamental axes.

1:11:22

First, the safe handling of debris.

1:11:26

Yes, quite a bit of

1:11:27

information has already come out about it, starting with

1:11:30

the classification at the source to

1:11:32

separate hazardous waste such as

1:11:35

asbestos and lead from inert waste, right?

1:11:37

Logically, that rubble

1:11:39

can later enter

1:11:41

the circular economy and contribute

1:11:45

significantly to the

1:11:48

subsequent reconstruction of the area.

1:11:51

Water and air protection are also important here

1:11:54

. with continuous monitoring of

1:11:57

the contaminants that are present there,

1:12:00

that persist, and any

1:12:02

hydrocarbon leaks that may occur

1:12:05

later. Yes. Another important measure

1:12:08

is phytoremediation

1:12:10

using natural techniques,

1:12:12

phytoremediation and

1:12:14

coastal cleanup, right? In this case, and with the use

1:12:17

of natural techniques to

1:12:19

decontaminate the soils and clean up all

1:12:22

the coastal edges. A

1:12:26

very important point that has already been discussed is

1:12:28

sustainable urban reorganization

1:12:31

because it means designing green spaces

1:12:33

that function as

1:12:36

buffer zones, drainage areas, and

1:12:39

safe shelters in the event of earthquakes. It has already been

1:12:41

said that, look, it is crucial,

1:12:44

important to build where the soil is

1:12:48

suitable for such constructions. Yeah?

1:12:51

So, it's something very, very

1:12:53

important. And lastly, uh,

1:12:56

technical cooperation, right? By creating

1:12:59

interdisciplinary alliances

1:13:02

so that the reconstruction is not done

1:13:04

blindly, but under

1:13:07

sustainability criteria.

1:13:09

That detail is very important.

1:13:12

Well, to wrap things up, I want to leave you with this

1:13:16

message. [clears throat]

1:13:18

Continuous post-earthquake environmental monitoring is not

1:13:22

a luxury, it is a vital necessity to

1:13:26

avoid secondary risks and protect

1:13:29

the population. Only by working together—

1:13:33

academia, authorities, and

1:13:36

citizens—can we build

1:13:39

truly resilient communities,

1:13:42

capable not only of withstanding an earthquake,

1:13:45

but of recovering safely and

1:13:50

sustainably.

1:13:51

Well, I hope you found this

1:13:54

information useful. Thank you very much for your

1:13:57

attention, and we will be attentive to

1:14:00

your questions and comments. I invite you

1:14:04

then to continue with the next

1:14:08

presentation in the discussion.

1:14:11

Thank you all.

1:14:18

Well, we thank Dr. María

1:14:21

Nela Vera for her intervention.

1:14:23

This environmental perspective allows us to

1:14:26

link technical analysis with the

1:14:28

need to strengthen society's preparedness and

1:14:31

response capacity

1:14:32

. In this regard,

1:14:36

Magistoria Serrano, focused on

1:14:39

risk management and preventive culture

1:14:42

through education, takes the floor.

1:14:45

Oraida Serrano holds a master's degree in

1:14:48

critical pedagogy, a bachelor's degree in

1:14:50

alternative pedagogy in risk management, and a

1:14:53

university-level technical degree in

1:14:55

emergency management and disaster response.

1:15:00

Magíst Serrano, we appreciate your presence

1:15:04

at this meeting. It is

1:15:06

his responsibility to close the cycle of

1:15:08

presentations, and he has 15 minutes to

1:15:12

develop his intervention. Already.

1:15:17

One moment

1:15:21

forward.

1:15:26

Well, good evening to everyone.

1:15:29

I would like to know if you can hear me well.

1:15:32

Yes, go ahead.

1:15:34

Okay. Well, good evening. It is

1:15:36

truly a pleasure for me to share

1:15:40

with the specialist people with whom we

1:15:44

have the pleasure of learning today, right?,

1:15:48

from each experience and from everything that

1:15:52

this July 24th has left us,

1:15:55

which has been quite

1:15:58

ethical for us here in Venezuela.

1:16:01

Well, it's up to me to talk about

1:16:03

the part of preventive culture

1:16:05

through education.

1:16:08

It's a topic that we really talk about,

1:16:12

all those who came before us, but

1:16:15

we have to talk about the past, what

1:16:19

we can do. Why talk about a

1:16:21

culture of prevention? Because a

1:16:23

preventative culture is the set of

1:16:25

knowledge, habits, and attitudes used to

1:16:28

anticipate risk. In the case of

1:16:31

earthquakes, it involves learning what to do before,

1:16:35

during, and after a seismic event.

1:16:39

Uh, it is built through education,

1:16:41

practice, and the participation of all

1:16:44

communities. This is something that

1:16:47

concerns us all. Yes. A culture of

1:16:49

prevention is a shared commitment

1:16:52

by all to promote safety,

1:16:55

health, and risk prevention. It is

1:16:58

a collective responsibility

1:17:02

that requires active involvement and

1:17:04

participation in complying with

1:17:06

policies and laws for

1:17:09

citizen security.

1:17:10

When we talk about that familiar

1:17:13

before, during and after, because many

1:17:16

of the specialists

1:17:18

in the area work based on

1:17:20

that, we do talk about the before being

1:17:24

prevention, mitigation and

1:17:26

preparation, but what do we do to achieve

1:17:29

that? Yes. Uh, what's the right thing to do?

1:17:32

family emergency plans,

1:17:34

school emergency plans, and

1:17:36

working with communities. When

1:17:38

we talk about the "during" phase, we mean that the

1:17:41

main objective is to save lives,

1:17:44

provide immediate assistance, mitigate

1:17:47

secondary impacts, and stabilize the

1:17:50

situation.

1:17:52

If we talk about the aftermath, we are

1:17:54

talking about what we know

1:17:56

as the edan, which is the

1:17:58

damage assessment, the needs analysis. It

1:18:01

is a detailed record of the

1:18:02

physical, environmental, and socioeconomic impact in order to

1:18:05

prioritize resources and contributions. And

1:18:08

rehabilitation is the

1:18:11

short-term restoration of basic services

1:18:14

such as water, electricity,

1:18:16

telecommunications, and

1:18:18

minimum living conditions;

1:18:21

reconstruction is the

1:18:24

medium- and long-term process of repairing and

1:18:26

rebuilding housing structures and the

1:18:29

affected socio-economic fabric.

1:18:36

Why talk about a culture of

1:18:38

prevention?

1:18:40

Venezuela went from being a regional model

1:18:44

in risk management to showing a

1:18:49

discontinuous preventive culture and an evident

1:18:52

institutional backwardness.

1:18:54

That was evident, it's not because

1:18:56

we as specialists say so, it's

1:18:58

something that we are truly experiencing a month after the

1:19:02

event

1:19:04

.

1:19:05

Seismic education has positioned itself

1:19:08

as a key measure for prevention and

1:19:10

risk management, but only after the

1:19:12

earthquake.

1:19:14

So where is what we've

1:19:17

done? what we have done before.

1:19:18

So, that's why

1:19:22

we emphasize talking about education, about what

1:19:26

we must do to mitigate

1:19:28

all this kind of collateral damage.

1:19:31

Prevention is not just a technique, it is

1:19:33

a social practice that is built day

1:19:36

by day in schools, families and

1:19:39

communities. Education is the

1:19:42

tool; it is

1:19:44

essential to train people to be

1:19:45

prepared and responsible in the face of

1:19:49

risks.

1:19:52

Let's talk a little bit, shall we?,

1:19:53

about constitutional frameworks,

1:19:56

the right to security and life.

1:20:00

The Constitution tells us in article

1:20:01

43,

1:20:03

"The right to life is inviolable."

1:20:08

Article 55 states, "Every person has the

1:20:11

right to protection by the

1:20:14

State against situations that

1:20:16

constitute threats of vulnerability or

1:20:19

risk to their physical integrity."

1:20:22

Article 3 addresses education and

1:20:25

work, which are

1:20:27

fundamental processes for achieving the

1:20:29

State's objectives, including the

1:20:31

protection of individuals and the

1:20:33

well-being of the people. Article 102

1:20:37

addresses education, which is a

1:20:39

human right and a fundamental social duty

1:20:42

. This should be the basis

1:20:46

for us to incorporate all this

1:20:48

content on preventative culture,

1:20:51

risk management, and everything we

1:20:54

work on, focused on

1:21:01

preparing for any event, into the curricula, both at the

1:21:04

university and school levels.

1:21:09

There are laws and regulations that address this.

1:21:12

Other laws that

1:21:15

are more specific, such as the

1:21:18

Comprehensive Risk Management Law and

1:21:21

the Law on Socio-Natural and Technological Risks, state that

1:21:25

Article 35 guarantees

1:21:29

the State's obligation to ensure the

1:21:31

inclusion of risk management content in the curriculum.

1:21:33

Formal and non-

1:21:37

formal education. Article 36 also tells us

1:21:39

that the State, the private sector, and

1:21:43

communities—that is, a triad—share

1:21:46

responsibility for

1:21:48

promoting prevention through

1:21:50

education and culture.

1:21:53

Article 40 mandates the promotion of a

1:21:56

risk culture that fosters

1:21:58

risk identification and reduction, as well as

1:22:04

emergency prevention.

1:22:05

We're talking about our

1:22:08

laws, about what

1:22:12

we as teachers or

1:22:16

trainers in this area should really

1:22:18

focus on. Yes. A preventative culture is

1:22:21

built by learning, practicing, and

1:22:24

sharing protective measures before an

1:22:27

event occurs.

1:22:31

Education is useful, right?

1:22:36

Why? Because it's through education that

1:22:38

we can create

1:22:41

more resilient communities and citizens. That's why

1:22:43

we say that education is the cornerstone

1:22:45

of resilience, because resilience is

1:22:48

n't just about resisting; it's the capacity to

1:22:52

anticipate, absorb, adapt, and

1:22:56

recover from an event.

1:22:58

Formal and non-formal education allows us to

1:23:00

develop

1:23:02

self-protection skills and foster

1:23:05

emotional intelligence in emergencies,

1:23:08

like the stories about the glasses...

1:23:11

Emotions. I don't know if you've

1:23:12

seen it, but psychologists use it a lot:

1:23:15

dispelling myths and debunking

1:23:18

false information circulating on

1:23:20

social media. This is something

1:23:22

we're

1:23:25

currently struggling with, as we're experiencing

1:23:28

all these kinds of events. And

1:23:30

well, in between one thing and another, here in

1:23:33

Venezuela,

1:23:35

social media has been useful because it has given

1:23:37

other people the opportunity to learn about what

1:23:45

has been happening in different

1:23:48

affected areas. Yes, but

1:23:51

social media isn't always good

1:23:53

because sometimes it's also used

1:23:55

for other things, like spreading misinformation and

1:23:58

creating more chaos than already exists.

1:24:01

So, one of the things is to dispel

1:24:03

the false information

1:24:05

circulating on social media.

1:24:09

The responsibility of the

1:24:11

education system,

1:24:13

right?

1:24:14

Article 8 of the Risk Law states that

1:24:17

the governing body of the

1:24:21

national education system must include

1:24:24

content on threats and

1:24:26

vulnerabilities.

1:24:28

Why? To anticipate and mitigate

1:24:30

risk.

1:24:32

The education system and its entities

1:24:34

cooperate in the design and implementation

1:24:36

of risk reduction actions. Risk and

1:24:39

emergency preparedness.

1:24:42

In other words,

1:24:44

what would have happened

1:24:46

if all these people were

1:24:49

trained or had some

1:24:52

idea of ​​what they were going to do, at

1:24:54

least after an emergency? That's why

1:24:58

practice, curricula

1:25:00

, learning projects,

1:25:02

school drills, and

1:25:05

ongoing teacher training should

1:25:09

n't be just for now, not just because we're

1:25:12

living in these times, but rather

1:25:14

permanent and continuous

1:25:19

environmental prevention, right? Although

1:25:22

the panelists before me already

1:25:25

spoke about all this, what about

1:25:28

the laws, what about the regulations, what about

1:25:31

ordinary citizens? The problem is

1:25:33

that we lack knowledge, and what they

1:25:37

say is that a lack of knowledge does

1:25:41

n't excuse us from responsibility.

1:25:44

However, we see that many of the

1:25:46

things that happen happen because we don't

1:25:49

comply with these

1:25:51

environmental regulations and laws

1:25:53

. Yes, we deal with

1:25:56

natural events, people say, and

1:25:59

we, as specialists,

1:26:01

talk about socio-natural events,

1:26:03

because it's natural, right?, that

1:26:07

earthquakes exist.

1:26:09

Why? Because they are movements. Because

1:26:10

the earth has this That is, the

1:26:14

earth shakes. What is unnatural is

1:26:18

that earthquakes cause

1:26:20

so many victims and so much disaster

1:26:24

because we build in areas where we

1:26:26

shouldn't build. We,

1:26:28

society, are the ones who enter those areas.

1:26:31

So we're talking about Article

1:26:33

6 of the environmental section, which says, "The

1:26:36

State must guarantee

1:26:38

land-use planning and

1:26:41

development planning, excuse me,

1:26:45

avoid increasing or exacerbating

1:26:48

vulnerability."

1:26:49

Oversight bodies must monitor

1:26:52

vulnerability conditions and ensure

1:26:54

that construction does not take place in high-

1:26:56

risk areas and floodplains.

1:27:00

Environmental education teaches how to read the

1:27:02

territory, the faults, the soils, the

1:27:05

slopes, land use and

1:27:08

building regulations, all of which are reflected

1:27:11

in COVID.

1:27:13

Education has a

1:27:15

lot to do with the educational aspect of

1:27:17

urban planning through the

1:27:19

relevant authorities.

1:27:23

We also talked about

1:27:27

community resilience and popular participation;

1:27:31

these articles are also from the

1:27:33

risk law in article 41, 42 and 43, which

1:27:38

says that organized communities

1:27:40

actively participate in the

1:27:44

planning and decision-making on

1:27:46

local risk management.

1:27:48

Communities can exercise

1:27:50

Social Oversight by reporting actions

1:27:53

and omissions that generate risk.

1:27:56

Something difficult to do, isn't it?

1:28:00

Because? Because there are laws. The

1:28:03

problem is whether they are enforced or whether

1:28:06

we, as conscientious citizens,

1:28:09

make use of them.

1:28:15

When we talk about non-compliance,

1:28:18

uh, I put an image here and I

1:28:21

was working there on the part

1:28:25

of the choroso

1:28:26

and I was saying, "My God, I mean, families

1:28:30

that are violated

1:28:34

or that are vulnerable."

1:28:37

And when we go to those places, we have to

1:28:40

go there—the specialists,

1:28:42

the civil protection officials, the

1:28:44

firefighters, and the state security forces—and

1:28:47

we say, "This should happen

1:28:51

, this should be happening.

1:28:55

Who allows these people

1:28:57

to build in this area?

1:29:00

Where is the education? From the

1:29:02

schools, the high schools, where we

1:29:05

train citizens to be aware that it's

1:29:08

our lives that are at stake, that it's

1:29:11

our property, that we're

1:29:13

investing in places where it's not just about how many

1:29:15

people lost. As a

1:29:19

meme I saw just now said about this

1:29:21

situation, those who didn't lose their homes

1:29:23

lost a friend, and those who didn't lose a

1:29:25

friend lost a family member.

1:29:27

So we're talking about resilience,

1:29:31

right? But we can talk about it, or

1:29:34

how much it can strengthen us,

1:29:36

when there are prevention committees in

1:29:38

schools and neighborhoods, right? When

1:29:41

drills are carried out and safety zones are mapped

1:29:43

. When we go to the

1:29:46

communities and talk to the people

1:29:48

who live there, because the people who

1:29:50

are there, they are the ones who have the

1:29:52

information.

1:29:53

The people who have been

1:29:56

in the communities for a long time, those people

1:29:57

are Those who can give us,

1:29:59

the people who are going to do

1:30:01

risk management, are the ones who can give us the

1:30:03

information: what ravine was there,

1:30:06

which one dried up, why it was moved.

1:30:08

Sometimes we go into places where we know

1:30:10

nothing, and it's

1:30:13

the people who gradually

1:30:15

give us that kind of information so

1:30:17

we can work on these

1:30:21

risk maps.

1:30:23

It's important that the communities have

1:30:25

this kind of information and that they

1:30:27

educate themselves so they know, and from our

1:30:31

own experience, we're seeing

1:30:34

that if the agencies, officials, or

1:30:37

institutions don't have the capacity

1:30:39

to respond, it's us as

1:30:41

citizens who step in. I include myself in that because I

1:30:43

have a family, I have a home, I have family

1:30:47

that I teach and tell

1:30:49

about prevention, what to do, what not to

1:30:51

do.

1:30:52

So, what do we do? I mean, we

1:30:55

share knowledge at the

1:30:57

local and scientific levels. Has

1:31:01

anyone discovered anything? What I

1:31:02

tell my students in the

1:31:04

risk management course who are

1:31:05

listening to me here is, if

1:31:07

you learn something, let's... To share it,

1:31:11

we're going to manage through

1:31:13

education. We're going to educate, we're going to offer

1:31:16

courses, we're going to the communities, we're going to

1:31:18

the schools. Almost all the work of

1:31:20

the young people I've had

1:31:23

the opportunity to mentor so far

1:31:26

focuses on education, on

1:31:28

grounding it in

1:31:30

education.

1:31:32

Practice and prevention

1:31:34

are the only things that can give us results.

1:31:37

How? Through education.

1:31:41

Concrete actions for a

1:31:43

preventative culture, both in the classroom and in the

1:31:45

communities, include incorporating a

1:31:49

risk variable, educational projects, for

1:31:52

example, "My Safe School." I've worked on

1:31:56

many cases here in various schools and

1:31:58

high schools, and I continue to do so through

1:32:00

what I can, through

1:32:02

the learning community. Using

1:32:04

playful,

1:32:07

transdisciplinary strategies,

1:32:08

right? With examples in schools like

1:32:12

water waves,

1:32:15

pencil experiments, emotional stories, right?

1:32:18

Collaboration with civil protection,

1:32:20

firefighters, and scientific entities that

1:32:23

help us with updates. Every day,

1:32:26

knowledge is updated at all levels of the...

1:32:28

Part of

1:32:30

risk management. So, we

1:32:32

must also bring to the

1:32:35

forefront everything we've discussed

1:32:38

regarding earthquake preparedness and education,

1:32:40

both in communities and

1:32:42

educational institutions, and

1:32:44

active participation in

1:32:46

risk assessment. So,

1:32:49

thank you very much. And,

1:32:53

a phrase I wanted to share with you: I hope that

1:32:55

education and prevention are much

1:32:58

stronger than seismic activity so that

1:33:00

we can implement prevention measures

1:33:02

and achieve our goals. Thank you so much

1:33:05

for the opportunity that the

1:33:08

postgraduate program has given us today, both myself and those who spoke

1:33:10

before me. Thank you very much

1:33:12

.

1:33:22

Well, Professor Serrano, we appreciate your

1:33:25

presence at this meeting.

1:33:31

With this presentation, we conclude the series

1:33:35

of lectures

1:33:36

and now move on to the

1:33:39

question and answer session.

1:33:43

I ask our panelists

1:33:47

and presenters to please

1:33:51

take the floor to answer

1:33:58

the audience's questions.

1:34:01

This session will last 15 minutes. Any

1:34:08

remaining questions can be submitted via email. It will

1:34:12

give answers to

1:34:16

the participants, to the audience. So go

1:34:20

ahead, please, and to the

1:34:24

presenters.

1:34:42

[snort]

1:34:44

Okay, here's a question I was

1:34:47

asked.

1:34:49

It says, "What are three signs

1:34:51

of structural vulnerability that

1:34:54

we could teach families so they can do

1:34:56

a simple self-assessment

1:34:59

of their homes before

1:35:03

an earthquake occurs?"

1:35:06

This isn't meant to alarm anyone, but

1:35:12

many homes do have some

1:35:16

cracks and fissures, and it's important to understand that

1:35:18

a crack is something that's less

1:35:22

than 1 mm wide. [snort] Anything larger than 1 mm

1:35:25

would already be a crack. So, as I said

1:35:28

in the presentation, cracks in walls and

1:35:32

columns, especially if they are X-shaped,

1:35:34

tell me that the structure

1:35:38

has suffered stresses that exceed its

1:35:42

resistance, and this limits its capacity in

1:35:46

the event of an earthquake. And another

1:35:49

thing that is noticeable is that there are

1:35:52

windows and doors that sometimes don't

1:35:55

close because they are

1:35:57

misaligned. This suggests to me that there are

1:36:01

settlements

1:36:03

in the structure, and if there are

1:36:06

settlements it means that

1:36:08

a foundation failed or a column settled, and

1:36:12

that can weaken it as well. It's the

1:36:15

same as a fracture in a slab.

1:36:18

This stinking substance can cause

1:36:21

cracks to appear in a slab, right next to a

1:36:24

column. That suggests to me that there may be

1:36:27

a column there that has settled,

1:36:29

and that obviously doesn't

1:36:32

mean it's going to fall down, but

1:36:35

it does make it vulnerable to an earthquake.

1:36:42

Okay, I'll go. Well, I'm going to address

1:36:45

one of the

1:36:48

questions

1:36:50

I'm being asked here, regarding

1:36:53

how we can transform

1:36:58

debris management into an

1:37:03

educational opportunity to promote recycling, the

1:37:06

circular economy, and

1:37:09

resilient reconstruction with

1:37:11

community participation. Look, with everything that has been

1:37:13

said, there are some alliances here that

1:37:17

need to be handled

1:37:20

very well, which are interdisciplinary alliances

1:37:24

between academia and the public. What

1:37:27

we, the academy, are doing today is

1:37:30

bringing together information,

1:37:32

citizens with the organization, and of

1:37:35

course the authorities, in the sense

1:37:38

that everything here, in the case

1:37:40

of the Ministry of the Environment, is

1:37:43

governed by the government through

1:37:45

, for example, the Ministry

1:37:47

of the Environment, which simply has to

1:37:51

select those appropriate places

1:37:54

for the disposal of, for example, the

1:37:56

rubble. But those ruins can

1:37:59

be reused

1:38:03

for reconstruction. For that

1:38:06

we need all the technical criteria

1:38:08

from the specialists, right? All that

1:38:11

educational aspect and the fact that the

1:38:13

public is informed about

1:38:17

the role that those ruins would play. Of

1:38:20

course, as a watchman and manager, all

1:38:22

the authorities are extremely

1:38:26

decisive because the laws

1:38:28

stipulate it, everything related to the management

1:38:30

of those debris. So, it's very

1:38:33

important because the rubble, look,

1:38:36

in countries that have had this type of

1:38:39

catastrophe, for example, uh, I

1:38:41

remember Japan, in the case of Mexico,

1:38:45

up to 80% of the rubble generated

1:38:49

has been used in

1:38:52

reconstruction, in making new

1:38:54

fills for, well, you know more

1:38:56

about that than I do, roads, to rebuild, I mean

1:38:59

, it has a whole final management process that

1:39:03

can be very, very beneficial, but

1:39:06

that has to be learned through

1:39:08

education, training

1:39:11

in all sectors. Well, that

1:39:14

's related to another one, and excuse me for

1:39:16

reading the next question to give you a

1:39:18

pass. It is, what are the

1:39:22

effects that we already mentioned,

1:39:24

but I would like to highlight the

1:39:27

effects that these debris have when they

1:39:29

are thrown into the sea?

1:39:32

Yes. Dumping debris into the sea

1:39:36

drastically alters all

1:39:38

coastal and marine ecosystems. The suspended dust

1:39:41

that remains blocks

1:39:44

sunlight. Yes, we know that

1:39:46

corals, for example, live off it. All

1:39:49

the toxic materials

1:39:51

contained in that debris poison

1:39:54

the fauna and flora, while

1:39:57

the specific weight of the debris

1:39:59

alters marine currents,

1:40:02

destroying the habitat of

1:40:04

aquatic species and damaging, of course,

1:40:08

artisanal fishing, which is a

1:40:10

socio-economic support for many

1:40:13

populations that are around.

1:40:16

Okay? Well, that covers the

1:40:18

part about the rubble. I'll leave the floor

1:40:21

to you,

1:40:23

to another of the exhibitors.

1:40:27

Professor José Alejandro, go ahead.

1:40:37

Hello, now we're talking.

1:40:41

Forward.

1:40:43

Yes. Well, there are two very

1:40:45

related questions. One is about whether there is

1:40:50

activity

1:40:52

crossing the Andes, and the other is about whether

1:40:56

faults in the country are activated

1:41:01

after the earthquake. Well, fault number

1:41:04

two is very mixed up, isn't it? Of

1:41:06

course, as we described

1:41:08

earlier, the Boccono fault, which

1:41:11

begins in Táchira, aligns itself with the

1:41:20

entire

1:41:23

Andes mountain range and passes under

1:41:26

Boccono, right? That's where its name comes from, and it

1:41:29

reaches Lara, passing through Cubiro or

1:41:33

Arquisimeto, precisely the turbid river,

1:41:38

it is aligned with the Fault in

1:41:41

Colombia and in Táchira, which is

1:41:43

where they are asking, part of

1:41:47

Táchira

1:41:49

further towards Colombia, that's more or less

1:41:53

where the fault originates.

1:41:55

And we're still talking about how she has

1:41:59

approximately 500 km of travel

1:42:03

and is going to join the group of faults

1:42:05

that we talked about earlier, right? The one

1:42:08

in San Sebastián and that will also be

1:42:10

linked to the victory, etc. In

1:42:13

other words, the Boconó fault, part of

1:42:15

Tachi, is going to give to Morón, in short

1:42:18

.

1:42:20

Uh, she's active. If she's active, we'll

1:42:23

talk about that too. It is precisely this entire set

1:42:25

of faults that moves the two

1:42:27

plates. These are precisely the ones that

1:42:31

limit the two plates. If we say

1:42:33

that the two plates move

1:42:35

approximately 5 mm per year, it is

1:42:39

because the fault is the plane along which

1:42:42

they are sliding. So that

1:42:45

's active,

1:42:47

that if the earthquake

1:42:50

reactivated faults, no, it's not like that.

1:42:54

Faults are what trigger an earthquake

1:42:57

precisely because they are located on the same

1:42:59

plane as any of the

1:43:02

fault lines we saw.

1:43:05

Well, there are times when it accumulates because

1:43:08

the planes, as I also said, are not

1:43:11

perfectly flat, but are

1:43:13

totally

1:43:15

rough, they have material inside as

1:43:17

filling, etc., and sometimes they don't

1:43:20

slide so easily

1:43:22

and precisely when trying to slide they

1:43:25

accumulate energy and that's why

1:43:28

when that energy bursts it

1:43:31

produces those earthquakes.

1:43:36

So, answering the second one as

1:43:38

well, the fault didn't trigger another fault,

1:43:43

but the fault is active and the whole

1:43:48

group of faults are active, only

1:43:51

sometimes they get stuck because of what I just

1:43:54

said and accumulate energy that

1:43:57

explodes at some unknown moment.

1:44:03

Thank you, Professor José Alejandro. We give

1:44:06

the floor to Professor Nerio Núñez.

1:44:11

the stolen. Uh,

1:44:15

it's a year. Excuse me, I don't

1:44:17

know. No, don't worry, professor. Well

1:44:21

, no

1:44:22

seismic engineering questions,

1:44:24

I imagine that's because of the topic, right? However,

1:44:27

there is a question here that really

1:44:29

catches my attention, and that is that they talk

1:44:31

about how Táchira, in the

1:44:34

previous seismic standard, was classified as being

1:44:37

in the seismic zone with a

1:44:40

spectral acceleration, an acceleration [clears throat]

1:44:42

uh of 030.

1:44:45

Uh,

1:44:46

this, so that standard

1:44:49

classified all of Venezuela from zone

1:44:52

zero to zone seven, which was in the

1:44:54

state of Supre. In any case,

1:44:56

seismic zone five is of extremely high

1:44:57

importance. And remember that now the

1:45:00

moment magnitude with which we measure

1:45:03

earthquakes is not just the

1:45:07

quantity, whether it is seven, eight, five, or

1:45:10

six, it has a lot to do, as

1:45:12

Professor Sequera knows, with the depth

1:45:15

of the focus where the earthquake is generated. Okay,

1:45:19

so what can the

1:45:20

university do? Look, to everyone who

1:45:23

is interested in this topic. The

1:45:25

university once, I

1:45:28

couldn't attend because I was very

1:45:30

ill, a commission of highly qualified

1:45:33

professionals went and inspected the

1:45:36

old viaduct bridge here in San

1:45:39

Cristóbal, which presents a very

1:45:41

serious pathology, of great

1:45:43

concern, and a report was generated and

1:45:48

delivered to the authorities with the

1:45:50

aim that the university

1:45:54

always has an active presence in

1:45:57

all those problems that

1:46:00

our state of Tchi experiences. We

1:46:02

are also thinking of holding

1:46:07

workshops

1:46:08

to

1:46:13

train construction foremen, not

1:46:17

engineers, because engineers are already

1:46:18

trained in academia. We want to

1:46:21

train and certify

1:46:24

foremen so they understand the

1:46:26

importance of

1:46:30

seismic nodes and how to address

1:46:32

structural weaknesses, ensuring that

1:46:35

when an earthquake strikes, the

1:46:37

structures, at least the new ones,

1:46:40

are able to withstand it. Now, with

1:46:43

respect to the old,

1:46:46

ancient structures, Professor Sequera said that

1:46:48

everyone now predicts when

1:46:51

a sign will come, well, that is

1:46:54

unpredictable. If there is a science, which is

1:46:57

statistics, that helps us more or less

1:46:59

to establish a return period, and

1:47:03

within that return period, well, that

1:47:06

's not exact, but within that

1:47:07

return period a sign can return for

1:47:10

this area of ​​the Andes. And we must, we must,

1:47:15

and the university, so that you can see,

1:47:17

our university is already

1:47:20

part of a group that includes

1:47:22

Civil Protection, the fire department,

1:47:25

our own universities and

1:47:27

other state agencies, the

1:47:29

state itself, the regional government, with

1:47:32

the aim of always

1:47:38

training, and with the College of Engineers, we

1:47:41

want to review the

1:47:44

structures that we consider

1:47:48

dangerous. Um, I was also going to call to

1:47:54

say that this discussion is part

1:47:58

of what the university wants to do

1:48:01

through these audiovisual means to

1:48:04

inform about important matters. Yes, it is true

1:48:07

that it is fashionable because of what happened

1:48:11

in Vargas state, but it is of

1:48:15

utmost importance that we are

1:48:17

prepared, prepared from

1:48:20

prevention and prepared by having the

1:48:23

equipment, prepared from education,

1:48:26

prepared from training. Yes,

1:48:28

the state of Táchira is a state with a very

1:48:31

high seismic risk and is very

1:48:34

dangerous. We have, as the

1:48:36

geologist said, the Oca fault back here

1:48:39

in Colombia, which is when it fails,

1:48:42

of course, it's not that it's connected, but it

1:48:44

can activate the Boccono fault, right?

1:48:46

Since the one in San Sebastián cannot be activated

1:48:49

. Well, that's what I wanted to

1:48:52

talk about.

1:48:56

Thank you, Professor Nerio Hurtado.

1:49:01

Professor Simón has his hand raised over there,

1:49:09

and then we would give way to Professor

1:49:13

Soraida Serrano.

1:49:16

Yes, there was a question that said, what

1:49:18

actions can the university take

1:49:22

to review the buildings?

1:49:25

Um, just last week

1:49:27

we had a meeting with Dr.

1:49:31

Raúl Casanova and he presented us with a project

1:49:36

to create the Center for

1:49:40

Seismological Research in the state of Táchira, which would be

1:49:44

an inter-institutional project

1:49:47

combining

1:49:49

legal, scientific and

1:49:51

financial viability.

1:49:53

Given the seismic risk in the

1:49:56

state, what happened here serves as a

1:49:59

warning so that our region can have

1:50:01

an infrastructure that

1:50:04

guides us and prepares us for the future.

1:50:08

This is an initiative that is already holding its

1:50:10

first meetings to establish

1:50:13

the legal framework, infrastructure, and

1:50:15

equipment. The university could

1:50:18

be the site to place a seismograph,

1:50:22

which there isn't one, and to carry out

1:50:25

advanced studies on this. Also,

1:50:28

today we had an invitation from the

1:50:31

College of Engineers and where they

1:50:33

participated in meetings to

1:50:37

analyze the seismic risk that the

1:50:39

State has and there were

1:50:42

different organizations present, both those of

1:50:44

civil protection, fire departments from

1:50:46

different municipalities and there we discussed

1:50:50

all these aspects that this in

1:50:53

the part of the organization precision and

1:50:56

also.

1:51:01

Okay, thank you, Professor

1:51:04

Simon. Please, Professor Soraida, with

1:51:08

your response.

1:51:12

Okay, we're still here. He says, "What

1:51:15

methodologies of

1:51:18

alternative pedagogy have you found

1:51:19

most effective in establishing a

1:51:21

preventative culture?"

1:51:23

Well, alternative pedagogy

1:51:25

tells us that it is a set, right?, of

1:51:27

approaches, models,

1:51:30

educational currents that distance themselves from

1:51:32

a traditional teaching model.

1:51:35

We do things that not everyone does.

1:51:38

So what else has been effective

1:51:41

through drills? Carlas, the

1:51:44

water harvesting projects, which are very

1:51:45

much related to the environment, and the

1:51:48

recycling projects—there was a

1:51:51

time when it was all the rage,

1:51:54

everyone wanted to learn how to

1:51:55

recycle, to do things. So it seems like these

1:51:58

things are going out

1:52:01

of fashion every day, right? But

1:52:04

this is part of what we can

1:52:06

do through teaching,

1:52:09

education, and the pedagogical aspect.

1:52:12

art, communication. Uh, I remember

1:52:15

that, well, many of you knew

1:52:17

Professor Miguel Arturo Chacón, who is

1:52:20

no longer with us, but

1:52:23

who was truly a great teacher.

1:52:25

We used to make short videos with

1:52:28

children in schools, we went to the radio

1:52:30

and made short videos focused on

1:52:32

prevention. So, a lot to do, right

1:52:35

? Ideas to be received.

1:52:38

This also says that we must also

1:52:41

do the research project part

1:52:42

, where we

1:52:45

address the part of

1:52:46

historical memory, right? Where children

1:52:49

learn the stories of the

1:52:52

communities, where they themselves can

1:52:54

do it. I worked on it at the

1:52:56

Francisco de Miranda school. It's all there,

1:52:59

and the children helped to create the

1:53:02

vulnerability map of the area and then

1:53:04

painted it like a mural. So,

1:53:07

through painting, these

1:53:09

murals, there is real

1:53:11

family integration, there is a lot of it, and we are

1:53:15

here at the service of all those who

1:53:18

need workshops and

1:53:20

talks.

1:53:22

We are at your service. Thank you, really.

1:53:25

Thank you for the opportunity.

1:53:27

Fine, thanks. We appreciate the questions

1:53:30

asked by our audience and the

1:53:34

answers provided by the

1:53:35

specialists.

1:53:38

To present a summary of the

1:53:40

main contributions of this

1:53:41

discussion,

1:53:43

we invited Dr. Carmenol

1:53:45

Solózano, a professor specializing

1:53:48

in environmental impact studies and evaluation

1:53:50

.

1:53:52

Dr. Solórzano, the

1:53:55

floor is yours.

1:53:56

Hey Carlos, and before Carmen Sol, I

1:54:00

just wanted to quickly tell you the

1:54:03

following, that this is precisely a

1:54:06

great contribution to the educational aspect that is

1:54:09

embedded in all levels, both the

1:54:11

engineering aspect and the

1:54:13

preventive aspect and the environmental impact aspect

1:54:16

. We invite you because this

1:54:19

is the first of

1:54:22

many activities to come later

1:54:24

[clears throat] of great interest. for

1:54:26

the entire community. The idea is that we work

1:54:29

together hand in hand, that we

1:54:31

all become stronger and able to

1:54:35

face everything that is coming our way

1:54:37

. Go ahead, Professor Carmen.

1:54:41

Well, thank you very much.

1:54:43

Okay, so we're now approaching the

1:54:47

end of this important discussion.

1:54:52

We are now at the end of the

1:54:54

discussion.

1:54:56

Earthquakes 2026, Lessons and

1:54:59

Environmental Future, a space that has

1:55:01

allowed us to reflect on the double

1:55:03

earthquake that occurred in our country, which

1:55:06

has left us all quite

1:55:07

emotionally affected and we have seen from

1:55:10

different perspectives

1:55:12

how to understand and comprehend the

1:55:17

seismic risk that we have in our country.

1:55:19

Our first panelist,

1:55:22

engineer Nerio Hurtado, explained the

1:55:24

science behind seismic damage.

1:55:25

recent in the coastal area of

1:55:27

Venezuela. Uh, it focused mainly

1:55:31

on La Guaira. There he answered a

1:55:35

question that distressed us all when

1:55:37

we saw the horrific images of the double

1:55:42

earthquake that occurred in our country, and it

1:55:44

was, why did one building collapse

1:55:46

while the one next to it remained

1:55:49

completely intact? Well, the answer

1:55:52

is definitely not a matter of luck

1:55:53

,

1:55:54

but rather it has to do with

1:55:58

structural design, with physics, with

1:56:01

engineering, right? So, the

1:56:04

ultimate goal of

1:56:06

earthquake-resistant engineering is not to make

1:56:09

invincible or infinitely rigid buildings,

1:56:11

but to create structures that are ductile

1:56:15

and intelligent, capable of

1:56:17

absorbing shocks and remaining standing,

1:56:20

and that give the people

1:56:23

inside these buildings just enough

1:56:27

time to evacuate

1:56:30

, right?

1:56:32

This is achieved through rigorous soil studies

1:56:34

, good engineering,

1:56:36

ethical construction practices, and by

1:56:39

completely eliminating the element of chance.

1:56:44

For his part, engineer José

1:56:45

Alejandro Sequeda explained to us about

1:56:47

seismic movements and the

1:56:49

geological reality of our country. It helped us

1:56:51

understand the seismicity of Venezuela and

1:56:54

learn about the geological faults, which

1:56:56

also allowed us to learn about our

1:56:58

territory and know where we are

1:57:00

located, right? "isms" are

1:57:03

natural phenomena that we cannot avoid.

1:57:05

However, its consequences can

1:57:08

be reduced with

1:57:10

scientific information, planning, and above

1:57:13

all, with a population prepared for

1:57:16

this. We also had the engineer

1:57:19

Simón Ballestero, who taught us to look at

1:57:24

our homes and our

1:57:25

communities from the perspective of

1:57:27

structural pathology. One of the

1:57:30

most important ideas we should take away from

1:57:32

this discussion is that not all

1:57:34

cracks have the same meaning, and it is

1:57:37

therefore essential to distinguish between

1:57:39

superficial damage and those that

1:57:42

may be compromising the

1:57:44

structure in columns, beams, walls, or

1:57:47

slabs. He

1:57:49

also reminded us that there are certain

1:57:52

signs such as, for example, the

1:57:54

visible tilting of a building,

1:57:57

ground subsidence,

1:58:00

severely damaged columns, or

1:58:02

significant landslides. He

1:58:03

reminded us that we must evaluate the

1:58:06

detached concrete, the X-shaped cracks

1:58:09

in the columns, and that these must be

1:58:11

taken very seriously.

1:58:14

If we have any doubts, the

1:58:16

most prudent decision is to leave and wait for an

1:58:19

evaluation from a professional in the field.

1:58:22

Home security cannot be

1:58:24

improvised. As he emphasized in his

1:58:27

presentation, a crack doesn't

1:58:29

simply mean we have to go and

1:58:31

cover it up. It is necessary to understand the

1:58:34

damage and restore the safety of the

1:58:36

structure.

1:58:38

But we also see the other side

1:58:41

of what an earthquake can affect,

1:58:44

and it's not just buildings.

1:58:46

Uh, here comes the presentation by

1:58:49

Dr. Marianela Vera, who told us

1:58:51

about the environmental impacts

1:58:53

after an earthquake and reminded us of the

1:58:55

disaster that can occur after the

1:58:58

initial movement. Impacts on

1:59:01

soil, water, air, and

1:59:03

ecosystems are

1:59:06

significant disruptions. The accumulation of

1:59:08

debris, the release of dust and

1:59:10

hazardous substances,

1:59:12

fuel and gas leaks, the collapse of

1:59:15

drinking water and sewage networks

1:59:17

, landslides, and

1:59:19

sedimentation in bodies of

1:59:22

water also represent

1:59:24

significant environmental and health risks.

1:59:27

For this reason, after the earthquake,

1:59:29

we must include the safe management of

1:59:31

debris, the protection and restoration

1:59:34

of our ecosystems, and

1:59:37

urban planning. Very important, an

1:59:39

aspect that has been lost in recent years

1:59:42

. Likewise, we went through

1:59:46

the consequences

1:59:48

that most devastated all

1:59:50

Venezuelans, which are the impacts

1:59:53

that the affected population had.

1:59:56

This is how Master Soraida Serrano explained it to us:

1:59:58

the communities that had to

2:00:01

face the loss of other

2:00:04

people and the loss of their

2:00:06

homes, the interruption of

2:00:08

public services, the displacement of

2:00:12

large groups of people, the effects on

2:00:14

mental health and above all

2:00:18

the disruption of the tranquility

2:00:22

of what it means to be in a home,

2:00:25

in a house. This, this was

2:00:28

considered, uh, as an aspect, I think

2:00:31

the most regrettable one that we

2:00:34

Venezuelans have had to live through.

2:00:36

Finally, Ms. Serrano

2:00:40

speaks to us about a preventative culture

2:00:42

through education, leaving us with an

2:00:45

essential lesson: prevention

2:00:48

begins before an earthquake.

2:00:53

We must therefore be aware

2:00:55

that through learning and

2:00:58

participation

2:01:00

in the community we can also

2:01:02

develop

2:01:04

self-protection skills to

2:01:07

protect ourselves and combat

2:01:08

misinformation, strengthen

2:01:11

our emotional intelligence, and know

2:01:13

how to act during and after an

2:01:16

emergency.

2:01:18

Drills are important, like

2:01:22

a planning tool that we

2:01:26

must have in our

2:01:27

organizations. I believe that

2:01:29

universities are called upon to resume

2:01:32

the drills that

2:01:34

we used to do very frequently a few years ago, and to encourage

2:01:37

citizen participation in order to

2:01:40

permanently adopt a culture of

2:01:42

prevention and how to act during an

2:01:45

event of this magnitude. Resilience does

2:01:48

not simply mean resisting, but rather

2:01:50

anticipating, confronting and

2:01:53

adapting to the events that may

2:01:55

happen to us. And especially those of us who

2:01:57

are in the Andean region, in

2:02:01

Táchira, a seismic zone, we need to

2:02:04

train ourselves, especially in this

2:02:08

type of prevention that we can do

2:02:11

from our organization. Well, in

2:02:14

conclusion to this discussion, I think we need to

2:02:17

carry out more

2:02:21

activities of this type. Geology

2:02:23

will help us understand the

2:02:25

territory in which we are located.

2:02:27

Engineering helps us to build and

2:02:29

evaluate structures to make them

2:02:31

safer. Environmental management will

2:02:34

then allow us to protect our

2:02:37

ecosystems and mitigate subsequent impacts

2:02:40

. And

2:02:43

education will prepare us

2:02:45

more responsibly so that when

2:02:48

these seismic events occur we can reduce

2:02:51

their consequences.

2:02:53

And I believe that we at

2:02:58

the National

2:02:59

Experimental University of Táchira must thank our

2:03:01

speakers, engineer Nerio

2:03:04

Hurtado, geological engineer José

2:03:07

Alejandro Sequera, engineer Simón

2:03:09

Vallesteros, Dr. Marianela

2:03:12

Vera, and Zoraida Serrano for their

2:03:15

participation, and the

2:03:17

postgraduate dean's office for this initiative as an

2:03:21

organized entity. I welcome

2:03:25

the moderating team of this discussion and

2:03:29

we must remember that science,

2:03:31

education and prevention will always be

2:03:34

our strengths and that we must

2:03:36

remain active and under prevention as long as

2:03:40

we can. Well,

2:03:43

thank you all very much. I'll leave it to

2:03:46

Dr. Carlos Peñalosa to

2:03:50

close this discussion.

2:03:54

Okay, thank you Dr. Solózano.

2:03:58

Well, on behalf of the postgraduate dean's office

2:04:01

of the National Experimental University

2:04:04

of Táchira, we express our

2:04:07

gratitude to the panelists,

2:04:10

as Dr. Solózano so aptly put it,

2:04:14

who addressed the topics with their contributions

2:04:17

from an

2:04:20

interdisciplinary perspective, and

2:04:22

we acknowledge their

2:04:24

specialization in environmental impact studies and evaluation

2:04:26

. to the Department

2:04:29

of Civil Engineering of UNET and to all

2:04:32

the people who participated in the

2:04:34

organization, technical support and

2:04:37

transmission of this meeting.

2:04:40

We thank those who joined us

2:04:42

through the YouTube channel, as well as

2:04:45

those who asked questions and

2:04:48

followed the interventions of our

2:04:50

panelists.

2:04:52

From the National

2:04:54

Experimental University of Táchira, we reaffirm

2:04:57

our commitment to the generation and

2:04:59

dissemination of

2:05:02

relevant knowledge for

2:05:04

sustainable development, territorial security, and

2:05:07

the well-being of our communities.

2:05:10

In this way we conclude the

2:05:13

virtual discussion Earthquakes 2026,

2:05:17

lessons and environmental future.

2:05:20

Thank you so much for joining us.

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