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數據科學家薪水|美國,中國,台灣統一?

14:34EnglishTranscribed Jul 25, 2026
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Hello everyone, I'm Terry. Welcome back to my channel. In today's video, I'm chatting with another YouTuber, a data scientist, in Seattle. I hope to share with you some data science and machine learning related workplace information. We also talked about the workplace culture on both sides of China and the United States. If you want to become a data scientist, what knowledge do you need?

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And what knowledge points are usually important when interviewing? Finally, let's talk about his views on Taiwan I think it's rare for a Chinese mainlander to be willing to share his real thoughts on sensitive topics in front of the camera So everyone must remember to see the back I believe that the audience of the channel has watched my video

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The more comments I get, the more freedom I have. More and more, right? Yes. Can you give a little introduction? I was born and raised in Shandong. I studied in high school in Shanghai. I studied in the Department of Physics in the United States. I went to Cornell to study economics. In 2017, I went to Amazon to study economics. I studied for four years and studied for six years. I worked for Amazon for two years. I studied data science on Facebook for two years. I went back to Shenzhen to study Tencent games. I am the deputy director of data science and growth strategy. Are you a manager?

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Yes, I was in charge of 30 people at that time. That's not effective. It's also the reason why I came back to China. He gave me a pretty good offer. I came back to the United States in July this year. Now I'm in a cell lab. What made you come back and forth like this? When did you ask?

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You think the work on both sides

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What is the biggest difference between the environment and the attitude of the employees? Chinese culture and American culture. I actually talked to a friend. I said China is more like a student union in Chinese universities. And the United States is more like a club. In this context, everyone's interaction is mainly sexual. But it's more hierarchical in China. What about the cleanliness of work? In fact, Amazon and Meta are not very clean.

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If you choose from all the big companies, I don't think Tencent's work is one step behind Meta. Tencent Games is actually very profitable. With such a high income, they should not have the same income as Tencent Games. So their business is very good. The management is actually pretty good. I'm quite reasonable with the bosses in China. A job, are you happy? The boss takes a big part. There is a very traditional way of saying, "The boss didn't go home, you won't go home."

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I know that many big companies and companies that give stocks to RSU are already slowly

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Mom is in the US now. I have no more. All the big offers I've received in my life are from Chinese companies. Especially from Quai Shou and Zijie. I can give 700,000 dollars. But there is not so much in China. At that time, Quai Shou was digging me back from Amazon. At that time, I only had two years of work experience in Amazon. When I was digging, I gave 440,000 dollars. More than 200,000 is a total of 7,000. Then the total went up and turned 7 times. So if I made an offer at that time, it was a very big offer. Do you think there will be more money saved in China and China?

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But you can get it from banks or you can invest in it. You just said that if it's E7 compared to the domestic vice director, the salary of E7 here may be two or three times that of the other side. You have to see how much E7 gives here. Some companies give E7 very high. The total salary is still one or two times the gap. No matter how much you consume, it's still different when you get it. But you won't buy US stocks in China, right?

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It's okay if you can make global assets. But it's harder because of the foreign exchange restrictions. After all, you earn RMB. It's best to make global assets with RMB. It's still a loss if you make RMB with global assets. Unless you are a business or can make a lot of money in other ways in China. As a Chinese, making money in the mainland is always more than making money in the United States. For example, if you get a level of 171, you will find it more difficult here.

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Let's pause here. In the new year, thanks to the partner of the channel, Cambly, for sponsoring today's video.

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I believe that everyone is familiar with Cambly. What I want to share recently is that they are very popular recently. Cambly Group is a one-on-one group class. Every class can be taught with students from all over the world. If you need to communicate with people from different countries in your daily life. I will recommend you to try Cambly Group. They are one-on-one with mother tongue diplomacy. The difference is that Cambly Group is more like giving you a simulation meeting and a public stage.

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Of course nowadays many people they stream so streaming or series it's okay. I started to watch Black Mirror a couple of weeks ago. So who is the main character?

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You can choose different themes and English levels in Cambly. Then you can also choose to join the 30-minute or 60-minute course before the class starts. Make your class time more flexible My favorite place to experience the group lesson is that you not only interact with teachers, but also interact with classmates from all over the world. Like the class I experienced, we discussed which TV series are worth watching.

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The classroom is not just the teacher talking, but the students will also keep discussing why this TV series is worth watching. You can also choose different themes with your friends for class. For example, I used to go to business with Olivia. We talked about a lot of things about North American workplace.

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You work in a big factory here and you go back to China to work in a big factory. Why are you working in a startup now? I don't want to stay in a big factory.

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I immediately posted a video of me interviewing Facebook's data scientist. He went to Facebook for two years, from the first five to the first seven. It was a mission impossible. He told me that he had a very big opportunity. He believed in this thing, but it took him a year to implement it. This is a very annoying place to do things in the big factory. The core business of the big factory is actually very profitable and stable. Most of the things people do have nothing to do with this core business. Your work will not have a very real impact on this company. Do you think you got what you wanted here?

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Yes, I'm very happy to be here. We used to think about this matter. Because you are working now, right? I won't ask your salary unless you want to share it with everyone. 180,000 yuan annual salary, and then less than 200,000 yuan annual salary. How to say about money? When I jumped to Facebook on Amazon, there was a pay cut. I was promoted to a level, but there was a pay cut. When I joined Amazon, the stock price was 700 US dollars. Amazon, you get 80% in the third year and the fourth year. I left for two years.

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When I came back from Tongxun, if I stayed until November, I could get the second year's stock. But I came back in July. I didn't get the second year's stock. So you didn't really time the stock. Is it that important to you? I think the time of these four or five months is more important than the money in the stock. But you're working in a startup. You want to enjoy yourself.

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I think the environment is really important. I was really happy when I first went back. Because the whole company is very active. After each supervision, I feel that everyone is very unhappy. And then I am trying to help everyone here. But you will be more and more emotional. I am getting more and more depressed. I like the people here. I can learn a lot from them. Do you need a doctor's degree to do data? If you enter the industry, there will be a lot of benefits. It's good to say that you don't need a doctor. The cost is definitely not high.

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I can't make any suggestions for the future. I'm not sure if you guys still have the chance to experience enough and become a useful data scientist. You'll find that you did a good job in chatGPT. You don't know what you should do. In the case of what will happen in the future, I think the first job is still very important. It can help you learn a lot of things. So, do whatever to get the best job.

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Even if you don't start a business, at least do something real. For example, selling milk tea. Design a product. It's important to be able to feel the real world as soon as possible. Some people will ask me, Terry, I want to make my resume look better. I'm going to do a side project. What project do you want to do? It's mainly to make my resume look better. I think this is really meaningful.

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You really want to solve problems to make a product. That's the real thing. I want to ask you a practical question. It's a question on the market. You work on your team and you interview. What do you value the most? Basically, what everyone wants is to pass the statistics. You have to pass the SQL. Maybe there are some Python requirements now. Analytical and business and Parallax Sense. You can convert a business problem into a problem that data can answer. And then your Parallax Sense is probably where you can find the point. You are not just a person who spends money on books and other things.

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Do you think it's different? The ability to hold is becoming very important because everyone has to hand out. I think the most important thing about actual work ability is to debug. What is it that you think is worth sharing with everyone, whether it's in school or work experience? What do you think can give people in this field a heads up? Stereo Science is a craft. You have to learn through learning. Statistical theory is very important. First, most companies don't need machine learning models. Second, modeling is not called science or scientist.

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The real scientists use scientific methodology to understand the world. Data and models are just the auxiliary here. They are most likely to make a mistake. They think that machine learning models are data scientists. Analytics is not a scientist. At the beginning of the industry, machine learning scientists usually have more equipment. So too many smart people are in this industry. But later they found that there are very few places where they can really apply and play a value.

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It's hard to attract smart people with data analytics because people think the title is not sexy enough and your pay is not high enough. But there is actually very little analytics that really understands business. This is a pretty valuable one. You can advertise it to me. Because you grew up in China, you went to school here, and you worked here. And then you experienced a special period of time in China. You also talked about it in your channel.

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I 100% believe in freedom of speech. In your opinion, do you think Taiwan should be an independent entity or should it return to China? My family is in the mainland. I have a Chinese passport and I haven't bought a green card yet. My default answer is definitely that we should agree. Why?

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一定会统一或一定要统一。 我第一次听说第一岛链的时候, 是我在高中的时候。 韩国,日本,台湾,菲律宾, 然后就完全把中国的海洋给锁起来了。 中国的海军和空军是没有办法出这个岛链, 然后到太平洋去的。 中国人一直有一个...

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We never compare ourselves to the second world. We always compare ourselves to the first world. So if you want to be the first in the world, you need to have a sea civilization. The premise of having a sea civilization is that you have to break through the first chain. Until the lecture of Lex, the American foreign expert, his original words were:

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You just said that you are on the mainland.

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From a perspective of power, not from a emotional perspective. But if we talk about emotions, China still has a hundred years of history. The Taiwan issue is a very sensitive topic for all mainlanders. What do you think about your own experience? I hope to see peace. The premise of peace is

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I think we are heading towards a very open and very real direction for the people. I learned the People's Convention on the Law of the People when I was a child.

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We also have freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and freedom of movement. So you're not worried about the outcome? Whether it's peaceful or not, when it's unified, will the people of Taiwan lose their freedom? I believe if Deng Xiaoping is back in his old age,

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Or if after the generation is like him, he won't lose his freedom. Will there be a war now? In fact, it's a very big chance. No one can say when will it happen. I believe there will be a lot of audience comments below. I think everyone should not think too much. We just chat. I rarely talk about these topics. Yes, you asked me, I was wondering if I should say it. Because after all, I don't know.

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I believe that no Chinese would want China to be at war on the way to the revolution.

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

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