Apa Benar Pembangunan Ekonomi di Indonesia Era Jokowi Sudah Merata? | PERSPEKTIF

Yes, Smart Viewers, thank you for being with us in the Perspective program. And we will still discuss about what the economy is like in Indonesia. Now, if we look at the two rounds of the Capres-Cawapres debate, the first one is Capres and Cawapres, the second one is Capres himself. Looking at these two rounds, the visions and missions of those who, after they have conveyed it,

Which one is the closest to achieving economic growth in Indonesia to improve it? Whose vision is it? Because you said earlier that the vision is the same, right? Right, if we look at the vision, it's a bit similar.

The difference is that couple 01 has run those programs, so what is told a lot is achievement. If the couple 02 tells a lot of stories, then what is the ideal? Because it will, because it hasn't. But if we look at what was called yesterday, for example, talking about infrastructure.

The couple 01 is very dominant, we see that they dominate because they have experienced it. But the couple 02 still looks abstract. And that needs to be translated again by the teams below. That is indeed the next task, how to concretize the big ideas. But is it actually fair? In the sense of fair or not, actually if you look at the ideas that Jokowi or the

or the presentation that Jokowi gave, he was more focused on what he had done. What success he had achieved. Even though there is a little bit of what he will do. But that's from what he had done before. If actually, when you're number two, he hasn't done it yet. He just wants to do what will be done.

This is politics, because politics is indeed the advantage of being a defender there. When we become a defender, we are generous in giving achievements that we have given. However, if you look at it in more detail, there are actually a lot of things that can be criticized from what is called what is achieved by President Jokowi at this time. As an example, we are talking about

poverty. Indeed, poverty is currently the lowest since this republic was established. But if we try to compare with previous periods, maybe the achievement is not as high as the previous period. But if, for example, this couple 02 can offer a more progressive approach, maybe the people will also think again whether to choose 01 or 02. So actually there are still many opportunities that can be used by the couple 02.

So, the second round actually can be critical to defeat the opponent. But actually if we look at the second round yesterday, actually they were much safer. Maybe because of our culture as Indonesians, we respect each other more. For example, yesterday,

Mr. Jokowiu told us about the programs that have been done and will be done and it is seen as a good program by Mr. Prabowo, so support it. So maybe it's because of our culture.

There is actually support from number two. But if we look again, from Jokowi, in 2014 they have met. Right. Number one and number two have met and they also had a fight. At that time, it can still be said to be fair because the two of them did not have this. If you see yourself, is there a difference?

There are some strategies that they adopted in the first period in 2014 and in 2019. What's interesting in 2014, the Majid used to be Jokowi, JK, then Prabowo, Hatta. They both carried a vision in the field of infrastructure. They both carried a vision in the field of infrastructure. But now, even the weapons of President Lusat is the infrastructure that is needed. Then, how did the couple of 02 counter?

So what is being used as a tool to attack the 0-1 situation is infrastructure. Even though they were both carrying it. But if we look again at the problems in our economy, actually anyone the president of the economic problem will be the same. Only the difference is the strategy that wants

the way to achieve it is different, what is brought down, yes, indeed, if we look at the economic program offered by Joko, it is more structured, so it's easy for us to see or it's easy for us to make achievements, the indicators are clear, but if we look at the economic indicators offered by the 02 couple, it's a bit abstract, so we need

more continuous translations when we understand what is actually what is wanted in the field of economics. Okay, so the gap between them is different in 2014 and 2019. In short, the first-year students are calmer because they have already experienced it.

If we look at the vision for 2019, President Jokowi not only emphasized infrastructure, but also emphasized the development of human resources. Why?

The first period is used for infrastructure, then the next period is used for the development of human resources. Because we need quality human resources. How can a good economic development, infrastructure, be built, but human resources that have not been built will be very difficult too. So it must be combined, right? / Right. Infrastructure and development of resources. But if you look at it yourself, from Jokowi's point of view, it also includes prosperity and economy in Indonesia.

Have you been doing it well? If we look at it according to the target, it hasn't happened yet, the gap is still there, it should be like what was promised first, but now it's still not there, it's still not achieved, maybe that's why, for example,

which is always made by you, which is always made by you, will be improved again, right? Because I really want to achieve that. But actually, what do people see themselves like? Then we look at the survey results, for example, yes, achievements, achievements that are what is called, uh, valued by the people, there is indeed a satisfaction, but there are also some who

the people who feel dissatisfied and in politics it's normal, in my opinion, because it's politics, then in economics it's just normal. Okay, but if we look at the people themselves, what is it like to evaluate? Because if you said it yourself, the conversation is not yet complete because if

adjust it to the target, not yet meet the target. With the promises that were presented by the first number of the Paslaw at this time, when there was a capres debate yesterday, will the people also see that yesterday was not yet fulfilled? Not yet fulfilled. Fortunately, our people are now a lot more rational.

So because of that rationality, it is seen that he is not achieved because of what? Of course he will calculate, we will calculate that he is not achieved because of ABCD, except that he is not achieved because his condition is very good and all kinds but not achieved. Well, that's the condition of our people today, this is so, but if

our people are even more blind to the value of it, there is a need for control. Okay, so they are even more ignorant, right? So they don't see, "Oh, this hasn't been achieved yet." We can see this from the level of satisfaction of the people towards the work of the government today. And the majority of the people are quite satisfied with what the government has achieved so far. Quite satisfied, huh? That means it can be a plus value for them. So they just have to continue what they have achieved and have been done before.

Okay, let's talk about the continuity and satisfaction of this community itself. Is there a difference in the economy from previous years with previous leadership?

Or is this Jokowi actually just continuing in 2014? Actually Mr. Jokowi just continued, then he was inspired by the courage to execute unprogressive programs. For example, if we look at several points, there are project-projects that were launched in the previous three periods. Jokowi's era was then executed. This courage is what is much appreciated by the people.

Then if we look at our economic trends, yes, economic growth is indeed decreasing compared to previous periods because there are many things that can cause it. If we talk about poverty, it is also decreasing now. Then we also talk about our Gini coefficient, our Gini coefficient is getting better now.

even touched the figure of 0.41, the scale in Indonesia is very high, now our scale has begun to decline, we can see the performance that the government is doing now. What are the performance, sir? One performance, for example, in the sea toll, since the sea toll is there,

the price in Indonesia is the same. In the past, the price disparity between West Indonesia and East Indonesia was very high. When we buy BBM, the price is very different from West Indonesia. There is a program that is paralleling that. Then,

opportunities to do business in East Indonesia are getting more and more open, especially now if we can see, for example, like Sulawesi. Sulawesi has an extremely good economic growth there.

those are the achievements that make Indonesia happy in the East and it needs to be improved again. Okay, is that also in the vision of the mission between these two couples? That's right, indeed, if we look at the vision of the mission, Jokowi is always happy to build Indonesia from the side, to build Indonesia from the East.

Division 02 is also like that if we look at the economic vision that builds a fair and prosperous economy

The economy of the people that was built, actually the same economy that was offered, the same. The direction is there too. But actually, if we look at the condition in Indonesia, what is the economic condition like? If we look at the condition throughout Indonesia, there is still a gap between West Indonesia and Indonesia. Our economy is now very concentrated in the Java Islands.

Yes, the reason is because of the concentration of our population here. In Java. Yes, but we need to think critically that Indonesia is not only in the western part of Indonesia, there is also the eastern part of Indonesia that needs to be raised their economy there. They have a very big potential there. For example, if we look at Morocco there, they have a very good agricultural potential and we have to increase it.

Now, how can the government be focused on building all of that? Don't just concentrate on one island. Okay, but is that in their mission?

Yes, there is their division to build Indonesia as a whole. We will discuss later how the problems in Indonesia actually happen. If we talk more about infrastructure, what is the main problem in Indonesia besides infrastructure? Is it the development of resources, poverty, or what is actually in Indonesia? We will discuss it later. Don't go anywhere, Mr. Mirza. Stay in perspective.