Q and A Tricky transits, 12th house, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, Tips for Beginners, Air + Fire signs

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All right, team. So, a little something

different today. Uh, I'm definitely

having fun with trying out different

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you. It's great to be able to have this

time to share with you regularly. And

so, today we're going to do something

that we haven't done for a while, which

is answer some listener questions. So,

I'm going to get straight into it. Our

first question,

oh, I loved seeing this one. It came in.

So, this is a question from Mlu W8218

and they ask, "I have a question that's

more general.

Do you have any tips for navigating

difficult transits?"

Such a big question, we could go

anywhere with it, but they do qualify

their question. As a Leo rising, Cancer

is my 12th house and I also have a sixth

house stellium. So, this sounds like

somebody with one of those Capricorn

stelliums.

I noticed that cancer season can often

be pretty rough for me, especially

physically and psychologically.

At the moment, I'm thinking that I

should try to do more meditation, maybe

exercise, and expect to have some

monsters rear their heads. But if you

have any other ideas for this or any

other tough transit, I'd love to hear.

Thank you for your question. Uh I had a

number of thoughts reading your

question. So I know you're asking about

difficult transits and then I also hear

you go on to qualify you know when plats

go through your 12th house that you find

that cancer season each year which is

basically the transit of the sun through

your 12th house each year that is

something that you find as to be pretty

rough pretty tough. So I want to say a

little bit about that. The reason I had

like such a fun response to your

question is that years ago I wrote a

blog post called the simplest transits

and it's still available on my website.

And in that I basically talk about

tracking transits from the sun and moon

which are not necessarily the most

dramatic life-changing transits but they

are the transits that affect us

dayto-day in the case of the moon as the

moon makes its way through our chart

through all 12 houses and also

monthtomonth. So we get this sort of

personal rhythm or calendar to the year.

One of the ways we can work that out is

based on the very simple transit of the

sun for your first house, your second

house, your third house, your eighth

house, and your 12th house as you're

asking about. And one of the things that

I did for many years and I still do

where I can today when the transiting

sun is in my 12th house, I try to take a

bit of a break. I kind of scale back

work commitments. I tend to spend more

time at home. I like to get really

quiet. I also for a period of time was

doing this when the sun went through my

sixth house because the sixth and 12th

houses are considered the trickiest, the

kind of lowest vitality in the chart.

The sixth house of course we know is

connected to uh problems with the body.

So health concerns, wellness issues, uh

uh you know just health and medical

matters that's all part of the sixth

house. And the 12th house is connected

to problems of the spirit. problems of

the soul or problems of the psyche if

you like. It's when our energy is

disturbed and we need to kind of uh

escape from our regular routines or

rhythms or we need to be away from our

regular responsibilities and even

sometimes in the 12th house we want to

be away from our regular locations and

places. So I relate to this question.

I've used a bit of timing around this

myself and so I think for Mlu W it

really makes complete sense that you

would find the transit of the sun

through cancer each year a bit funky for

you because as a Leo rising that puts

cancer in your 12th whole sign house and

you mentioned that you're thinking about

trying meditation. great tip for 12th

house uh transits or activations or even

12th house perfections if people are

using that as a timing technique. Um

maybe think about some exercise. Uh and

then you mention you're expecting to

have some monsters rear their heads and

then you ask if I've got any other

ideas.

So I think

taking care of ourselves per the sign on

our 12th house cusp is really important.

And what I mean by that is in your case,

you have a water sign on the 12th house

cusp. So, we're looking for kind of

water sign supports and that can mean

healing or therapeutic practices uh

because water, you know, loves that. But

water is also going to kind of want

comfort or ease. You know, water seeks

the the path of least resistance often.

And so, we do want to remove friction

from our lives if we have a water sign

on the 12th house. So this is any fire

sign rising. If you're a Sagge rising,

you have Scorpio there. Leo rising as

per this person has cancer there and

Aries rising of course will have Pisces

on the 12th. So we do want to think

about like comfort. We want to think

about that sort of safety net or

security blanket. In terms of movement

and activity if we've got water sign on

the 12th house, I would be thinking

gentle movement. Maybe movement that is

happening in water like swimming for

instance or movement that might have a

rhythmical kind of flow. So movement

that is set to music. But I wouldn't

necessarily especially for cancer I

wouldn't be thinking about super high

intense activity. The 12th house just

generally regardless of the sign that

you might have there the 12th house is

kind of a low vitality sector. And so if

we're thinking about movement as a

support for a 12th house transit or

activation, we want to keep the

intensity down, we want to keep the

frequency down. To me, this is like a

gentle walk in nature or it might be,

you know, a slow yoga or kind of

stretchy Pilates or, you know, something

where it's more in that low, it's kind

of low intensity, but it's like

nourishing movement rather than movement

that is depleting or draining for us.

Uh, okay. I want to respond to the rest

of the question, but I know we talked a

little bit about water signs on the 12th

house. What if you have an air sign on

the 12th house? So, if you have Gemini

on the 12th, which means you're a Cancer

rising, Libra on the 12th, which means

you're a Scorpio rising, or Aquarius on

the 12th, which means you're a Pisces

rising, we want to support the mind. So

when we do 12th house activities with an

air sign on the 12th house, we do want a

little bit of intellectual engagement

but probably not highly stimulating, you

know, large group activities. We might

be reading books. We could be doing some

research. We might be doing some writing

or reflection activities where we're

engaging the intellect, the air element,

but not in a high stress, high pressure

way. If you have an earth sign on the

12th house, so Taurus on the 12th, which

is if you're a Gemini rising, uh Virgo

on the 12th if you're a Libra rising or

Capricorn on the 12th if you're Aquarius

rising. If we're thinking about how to

support ourselves in our 12th house

transit, which the sun goes through

obviously all of our 12th house every

year. If you're earth sign on the 12th

house, we want to think about being in

your body. I think movement is a great

thing for earth signs on the 12th house,

but again in that gentle zone. I would

also be thinking about something that

you're doing with physical matter or

objects. So, this could be gardening. It

could be preparing food. It could be

building or constructing something where

there's a bit of a hands-on tangible or

tactile quality. But it's again, it's

something that you're doing as like a

meditative uh activity. rather than

something that has like high stakes,

high pressure. So for me, I think, you

know, earth signs on the 12, I'd be

like, get into nature, get into the

garden, maybe get into the kitchen and

do some food, you know, cooking of food

from scratch, like pull out a recipe or

something. That kind of slow,

methodical, tactile experience. If you

have an earth sign in the 12th house,

super important.

What sign have we forgotten? Fire signs

on the 12th. So, if you have Aries on

the 12th, so that means you're a Taurus

rising, Leo on the 12th, which means

you're a Virgo rising, or Sagge on the

12th, which means you're a Cap rising,

so fire sign on the 12th house. If we're

thinking about how to support that, uh,

for you, you definitely are going to

want some physical activity. Maybe you

want to go climb a mountain or do an

intensive hike or, you know, bushw walk

or something. Um you probably the fire

signs on the 12th house is the one group

of signs where we could have activity

that's a little bit more intensive

because for fire on the 12th house

movement itself can be meditative. So

movement that kind of takes you away

maybe you are going on this hike or

you're going on a camping trip something

that you're away but there is an

activity uh away from your regular place

if you like.

The other thing is that fire signs are

signs that are considered the element

that is closest to the divine because

fire always moves upwards. And so if you

have a fire sign on the 12th house and

you're having a 12th house transit like

the sun is coming through uh for its

annual passage or maybe you are Aries on

the 12th and you've got Saturn coming

through uh or maybe you have uh Leo on

the 12th and we have Jupiter and the

south node coming through.

All of those fire signs on the 12th

house are going to want like

inspirational experiences. So this could

be meditative practices and rituals. It

might be like a dedicated retreat

activity where there is that reflection

that is uplifting. It might be reading

you know the great philosophers or the

stoics or other inspirational texts from

spiritual figures. That would be

something that a 12th house fire sign

combination would really be moved and

uplifted by because keep in mind that

when we are dealing with difficult

transits in the 12th house, we are

trying to recover our spirit or kind of

reconnect energetically and intuitively.

And Mlu W also mentions that they expect

to have some monsters through their

heads. And I want to talk about that

because the 12th house is where some of

our kind of shadows or the sort of

unconscious things that unsettle us do

reside. And so when we're having 12th

house activity, we want to be aware that

it's like some of the shadows can come

forward. Not because, you know,

astrology in its timing tools is trying

to cause us harm or unsettle us in any

way, but because, you know, the stuff

that's shadowy that is kind of around or

within us that affects us, we don't want

to be affected by it without knowing

what it is. And so, when we have a 12th

house transit activation, it's a good

chance to kind of clear the cobwebs out

of your internal space, your inner

makeup. And that may be that there is

like a hidden kind of fear uh remnants

of past pain or old events that are

lingering. They can kind of resurface

and the intention is that we can sort of

interact with them in a way where we

might be able to heal or integrate or

release whatever is lingering from the

past so that we can clear that as uh so

it's not a thing that affects us going

forward. So sometimes we get 12 house

activations. We pull back from regular

everyday activities, experiences, even

locations, places. We pull back to be

with our inside self. Whether it is like

the monster within or whether it is just

restoring our spirit. Often the two go

hand in hand. As we kind of um slay the

dra slay the inner dragon, we can

recover our spirit. It's like that thing

I was always afraid of. It's just not

what I thought it was or it's not now

what it used to be and I I can be freed

from it basically. So hopefully that

gives some tips and thoughts for Mlu W

and anyone else who might be thinking

about how do I navigate that time each

year when the transiting sun comes

through my 12th house. So for each of

us, we know it's at least 4 weeks a year

where the sun kind of uh energizes and

lights up our 12th house in our chart.

Now for those of you who want more of a

deep dive on the 12th house, I have done

a series of webinars. Uh one is called

diving into the darkness and it's about

exploring the eighth and 12th houses.

Another one is about planets in the 12th

house which is literally what it says

running through people who have planets

in the 12th house and what this really

looks and feels like for their lives.

And then the final part uh in this

series on the 12 houses webinars is when

I look at the ruler of the 12th house.

So we can see how 12th house themes

might be connected to other parts of our

chart in life. So we'll link the uh

webinars below and whether MLW or anyone

else wants to go further with 12th house

explorations those webinars will take

you deep. That is uh more than 4 and 1/2

hours of teachings on the 12th house

there. Okay. Our second question is from

Chanden Badan. I hope I'm saying that.

Okay.

Uh and Chanden is saying, "I'm curious

about July and the following months

starting in July where we will see

everything move into fire and air signs.

How would you say this would impact

natal charts that have heavy fire and

air emphasis and also what kinds of

themes are we like to experience

collectively? Juicy question for sure. I

think I'll just say something brief

about the collective and then I really

want to dive in to what this might look

and feel like in different kinds of

charts. So collectively fire and air are

both hot signs and they combine to like

you know the air feeds the flames of the

fire so to speak. And so we're seeing

this sort of quickening this energizing

this highly activating and maybe a

little over stimulating energy coming in

collectively. Collectively, we are also

in the waxing or opening part of our

current longer Jupiter Saturn cycle. And

so it feels as though the collective

pace or the pace of social development

in society is accelerating because

that's kind of what the planets are

indicating. We have fast-paced creative

and technological advancements. our kind

of human psyche is really not able to

keep up with the amount of changes that

are taking place in a short space of

time. So collectively it feels like you

know the ethers are being whipped up.

The mood of the people is being

activated and stimulated. Some people

are coming together because they're

motivated around a collective goal for

the common good and they're pursuing

that. you know, so people who are

collaborating around climate change

issues or around social justice issues

or around wealth inequality issues.

We've seen some of these movements come

forward and there are many other

movements that will be coming forward.

That's just a few to mention here as a

as an example.

But we also have people coming together

around a wide range of ideas. So this

idea of you know finding people who

share passion fire for the same ideas

and interests air that you do and then

forming a collective to pursue that is

part of this. But when we get the winds

like whipping up the ether

think about what wind does to a fire. It

fans the flames and it makes it bigger.

And that also means that collective

anger is something that's getting bigger

as well. The heat here is like the

energy is rising and some people are

channeling that into productive and

constructive uh progress and momentum

and change and some people are coming

together just to be angry together about

the same things. So these are parts of

the kind of common collective experience

over the next 12 to 18 months as we have

Jupiter plus Saturn and the outer

planets all going through fire and air

signs. Uh I say 18 months because we

also have the nodes in fire and air

signs until early 2028 as well. Okay. Uh

and then the other part of the question,

how would this impact natal charts with

heavy and fire emphasis? So the simple

general response to that is that if your

chart is more fire and air emphasis like

your uh rising sign, your most important

planets u maybe all of your planets are

in air and fire. What it feels like is

it feels more familiar to you. It feels

like everybody else is now starting to

be on a vibe or an energetic level that

you are always existing at or with. And

so that can be especially motivating or

inspiring or uplifting. Even if your

chart is the opposite, if your chart is

heavy on the earth and water, which is

more my chart, uh what we're going to

experience is that what's happening in

the collective space isn't as familiar

to us, but we can't help but be swept up

in the energy of it all. And so, all of

us are kind of like, what do I want to

do with this kind of drive or enthusiasm

or motivation? Some of us already have a

lot of that and we're going to move

really quickly. Some of us don't have a

lot about air and fire and we're going

to be sort of we're going to be able to

move a little more quickly than we

typically would. So that's something to

keep in mind. But I wanted to go even at

a more specific or personal level

because I do think that different kinds

of charts will be responding to this

differently. So if your chart is really

strong in fire then you know the main

kind of themes are Jupiter Saturn we've

got Neptune for an ongoing point of view

but I'm going to say something about

Neptune different in a moment Jupiter in

Leo very helpful for fire placements and

air placements because of the aspect

patterns that Jupiter and Leo will form.

So Jupiter and Leo of course conjunct

planets in Leo but tr placements in

Aries and Sagittarius. Sexile placements

in Gemini and Libra. Jupiter and Leo is

opposing placements in Aquarius still an

opposition from Jupiter is going to be

considered helpful. And squares from

Jupiter can be a little helpful and

energizing and uplifting too. So, uh,

Taurus and Scorpio, even though they're

not fire and air, can still get some

benefit from Jupiter in Leo. Saturn in

Aries, a little bit of a different

kettle of fish because Saturn is a

different planet, different, you know,

planetary energy to Jupiter. And so even

though we're thinking a lot about

planets coming into fire and air signs

as a collective vibe, when I'm working

with clients at the personal level, it's

not, you know, Saturn's influence in

Aries is not restricted to the fire sign

of Aries. Saturn in Aries is definitely

having a strong impact on anyone who has

planets in Aries. But Saturn is in Aries

by transit also has a strong impact on

planets in the other cardinal signs. So

Saturn in Aries is having a strong

transit impact on planets that are in

Libra and on Cancer and Capricorn

placements as well. And so even though

Saturn's in a fire sign, which is

definitely contributing to the

collective, when I'm working with my

clients, I'm talking to a lot of people

who are having major Saturn transits to

their placements in Cancer or in

Capricorn or in Libra. And that's just

as important at that individual very

personal chart level. And so similarly,

Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, even though

when we're considering the collective

vibe, looking at them in air and fire

signs, you know, collectively is

important, coming down to the individual

level in terms of how I think about

these planets might be affecting me

personally, my loved ones, and how I

work with students and clients, I'm

actually thinking about Uranus plus

mutable. I'm thinking about Neptune plus

cardinal and Pluto plus fixed. And what

that means is I'm thinking about how are

all the mutable signs of all elements

being affected by Uranus in Gemini.

Uh so Uranus in Gemini is going to

conjunct planets in Gemini. It'll square

planets in Virgo and Pisces and it's

going to be opposing planets in

Sagittarius. So even though there are

signs of all different elements in

there, they're all getting very strong

Uranus activations from Uranus in

Gemini. Similarly for Neptune in Aries

that is also affecting planets in

cardinal signs albeit planets at earlier

degrees of the cardinal signs than what

Saturn is activating. And of course the

fixed signs are not left out of this.

Pluto in Aquarius is affecting

placements in Taurus and Scorpio and Leo

as well as planets in Aquarius. So part

of my response here was just to kind of

flesh out, yes, we want to think about

this uh collective quality of fire and

air, the fast-paced development, you

know, socially in terms of culture, uh

creatively, technologally,

technologically, politically, on all

levels basically. But and when we come

down to the individual level, even if

you don't have a lot of fire and air in

your chart, you can still be activated

by different things that are going on.

further resources for people who might

want to get into this. If you're

particularly interested in the Saturn

transits, maybe you have a lot of

planets in cardinal signs, you will are

going to want my webinars on Saturn

transits to the planets, which takes a

look at transiting Saturn, aspecting

each of those visible original planets

with lots of tips on how to work with

that and how to manage that. If you're

just interested in understanding

transiting Saturn through the houses,

like now that Saturn is in your Aries

house, what is this going to mean for

the next two years? I have a separate

webinar called Saturn transits through

the houses, which goes through tips for

Saturn going through each of the 12

houses.

for Uranus transits. I actually just

wrote a blog post using the example of

transiting Uranus in Gemini aspecting

the Saturn placement for anybody who has

Saturn in Virgo, Saturn in Gemini,

Saturn in Sagittarius, and Saturn in

Pisces. So, if you have Saturn in a

mutable sign, one of the most important

transits I work with with clients is are

we having transiting Uranus make one of

those more dynamic aspects to natal

Saturn? And if you are Saturn in a

mutable sign person, you're coming up

for that over the next 7 years at some

point. And in the free blog post on

Uranus in Gemini transits to mutable

Saturn, I run through what to expect,

how to work with it, and also some dates

for those of you who have Saturn in the

early degrees of a mutable sign and give

you the timelines for that.

Okay. So, thank you for your question.

Hopefully, that's given you a few ideas

about the fire and air signs. I am in

the middle of putting my weekly forecast

together for my private membership and I

just want to point out that in July we

do have this real emphasis on fire and

air. I mean it's ongoing from July. Um

but in July we have Mars in the mix as

well. Once we get to around the 11th of

August, Mars moves into a water sign

which is going to cool things down a

little bit. I know Mars is not going to

be able to balance out Jupiter, Saturn,

and the outer planets, but it does take

a piece of that intensity off, but

nonetheless, you are spot on, Chandan,

that for the next 12 to 18 months, we

have this excess of major planets in

fire and air signs, and things are being

whipped up, moving quickly, that sense

of adventure, uh, willingness to take

risks to kind of roll the dice and see

what happens. Fire and air are really

are forward-looking and they are willing

to kind of go for it. So maybe that's a

message that you or someone else

listening needs to hear today. It's okay

time to give things a shot. All right,

next question.

We are going to take a little look at

this question that says,

"How do you interpret a ch?" So this is

from Angela M1702.

And Angela says, "How do you interpret a

chart where the signs are housed in

their opposing traditional houses? Uh, I

especially have trouble with first house

Libra, 7th house Aries. Thank you." So,

this is a great question cuz it gives me

an opportunity to clarify how I work

with astrology and hopefully help with

some confusion that Angela is having and

some of you might also be having. So in

very uh recent times relative to the

history of astrology, this approach to

understanding a chart that is called

maybe the natural wheel or the natural

associations has come to be very popular

and I think that's what's being

referenced here where you know Aries is

associated with the first house or Libra

is associated with the 7th house. In

traditional styles of astrology, we

don't actually practice like that. And

up until maybe 100, maybe 130 years ago,

most astrologers didn't practice like

that. That's what I mean by how new it

is. Remember, astrology itself uh is

about as we practice it today

recognizably is about 2 and a half

thousand years old. So, in the last 100

years, this one thing has become really

popular and it's kind of a simplified

sort of ABC style of astrology. I always

encourage students to leave that behind

as they are dedicating themselves to

more serious studies of a chart. What

you learn when you dive into studying

astrology is that each of the 12 houses

has a set of qualities and traits and

characteristics, a quality of energy

that is unique unto itself. So what that

means is the first house is about your

identity, your personality. It's about

your body. It's about how you meet

things. That's what the first house,

there's some basics about what the first

house is about. How you go about that,

what your body is like, how you see

yourself or understand yourself, how you

meet the world at that core essence is

defined and colored and flavored by the

sign that you have on your ascendant on

your first house. And you won't

necessarily be impatient or highly

enthusiastic or independent in the way

that you address those topics unless you

have Aries on the first house. You know,

think about somebody who might be a

Scorpio rising. They are going to be

much slower about beginnings or moving

forwards. Their body is going to have a

cooler, wet quality to it because that

is the nature of Scorpio. Somebody who

might have Capricorn on the first house

is going to have more of a grounded

maybe structured practical quality. Uh

more restraint is going to be part of a

core part of their personality because

that is the nature of Capricorn. So for

Angela M and anyone else getting started

with astrology, I'd really encourage you

to think about the signs and their

qualities as distinct and different from

the houses and their topics and their

qualities. And when you do that, it

becomes much easier to think about

things like Libra on the first house or

Aries on the 7th house because in that

situation, we're thinking about okay,

first house, health and the body. That's

one thing the first house is about. What

might Libra tell us about health in the

body that we might want to have a

balanced approach to our like food or

movement rituals? Uh Libra in the body

is connected to the kidneys. So there

may be something about the kidneys or

the systems of the kidneys that are

highlighted for a Libra rising.

When we think about it from a

personality point of view, a Libra

rising person might have an orientation

towards collaboration or teamwork, which

is very different from how someone with

Aries on the first house might operate.

And then if we think about the seventh

house as a part of a chart that

describes relationships or primary

partnerships, significant other people,

if we have Aries there, it's actually

telling us that when it comes to

relationships, we want that independent

energy or that more active energy, that

fire sign Aries to be a part of our

relationships. We either want a partner

that we can go and do physical activity

with or we want to have a partnership

with someone where each person's

independence and autonomy is really

supported. And so we're thinking about

what is Aries about and what is the

seventh house about and how can we build

some keyword combinations of those two

pieces. Now this piece of understanding

what are the 12 houses about as like

empty spaces and then what are the 12

zodiac signs about in you know unto

themselves. That is material that I

teach students in my practical beginner

astrology course which is a six-week

training that gives you these

foundational

uh teachings around uh how a birth chart

is put together. So in that course you

will learn the all about the 12 houses

in depth, all about the 12 zodiac signs

in depth and you'll learn exactly what

you're asking Angela which is how do I

put this together? So as part of your

coursework in that training you will

have homework activities where you're

asked to blend what if somebody has

Sagittarius on the 11th house or cancer

on the 2nd house. How do we understand

somebody's attitude to money and income

or spending and saving habits which are

all second house things if they have

cancer on the second house? How might it

be different if they have Sagittarius on

the second house? So these are all the

things that we learn in beginner

astrology class. So Angela, I hope

[clears throat] um my answering your

question has helped given you some tips

and guidelines. But if you or anyone

else would like to go further with this

approach, I will pop the link for my

practical beginner astrology class in

the show notes below. and I'd love to

see you there. Okay. And then that kind

of leads into our final question today

from Anmarie Rig 3287.

Anmarie says, "Do you have any tips for

a novice astrology student? There is so

much information. What do you suggest to

focusing and mastering as a beginner?"

Uh, and Anmarie very kindly says, "I

admire you so much. Thanks. Thank you

for your kind words, Anie. That's lovely

to hear. I have been teaching astrology

students for

more than 20 years now and so I can

certainly share with you the tips that

have been most helpful for the students

over the years. First up

I have so many tips I have to pick a

first up. Okay. So in the beginning what

you want to work on is interpreting a

birth chart. I know everybody wants to

jump into timing but you need to

understand a birth chart. what's in a

chart, how it works before we can do

timing. So, what that means is

understanding the 12 houses, the 12

signs, the planets and aspects. They're

kind of the four topics, the four core

essential topics that you will need to

get into the basics of chart

interpretation. There are additional

themes that you can add in in things

like planetary condition or planetary

strength using the dignity system uh and

things like that. So you can certainly

weave those components in but at as a

very you know key uh beginning place we

need to be able to memorize and know

what each of the 12 houses about. How

each of the 12 zodiac signs kind of

operates and functions and what the 10

planets the the main planets that are

used which is the seven visible original

planets plus the three modern planets.

We need to understand the planets,

their traits, their tendencies, the way

their energy can express. And then we

have to be able to combine them. So we

have to be able to say, I know what the

essence of Mars is, but we also then

have to be able to say how Mars in

Cancer is different from Mars in

Sagittarius or how Mars in Pisces is

unique compared to Mars in Virgo. And so

all of that interpretive information,

that is the starting place. And once you

can do all of that with a birth chart,

then you're ready for timing, which is

when we add in extra components or

features depending on the timing

techniques that we are using. So that's

kind of the the topics to focus on as a

beginner. How do you do that when you're

a beginner? Because it is very

overwhelming when you realize there's

more to astrology than just your sun

sign and you're curious to learn that.

Often people come to astrology because

they want to understand themselves. They

want to understand their loved ones.

Some people come to astrology because

they want to develop their skills and

become an astrologer themselves. But

many people are studying astrology for

personal growth and self-development.

They won't necessarily want to make a

career of it. You're welcome to make a

career of it if you want. Uh but

learning it either way is the key. So,

how do you do this? I usually suggest

find an astrologer practitioner whose

style and energy you resonate with and

take every course they offer.

If they teach, assuming they teach, if

you find an astrologer that you really

resonate with, you enjoy their style and

their approach and they're not actually

teaching, ask them for their

recommendations. If they are someone

that's teaching, sign up for their

course. And what I'm trying to say here

is don't try and learn from 10 different

astrologers all at once in the

beginning. Pick one astrologer or one

style of astrology and take whatever

they have to offer so that you can build

a solid foundation. Once you get into

astrology, you kind of never leave it.

And so there will always be other

techniques, different specializations,

different modalities, different branches

of astrology that you can dive into. But

I usually suggest to novice or beginner

students, don't try and do too much too

soon because it is very easy to get

overwhelmed because this subject is

huge. It feels endless. So if you're,

you know, wanting to take classes and

things like that, find someone whose

style you enjoy and begin at their

beginning place and just follow the

pathway that they have laid out for

students. Once you get to the end of

that, you will be well placed to go and

learn from other teachers and to adjust

what you've learned from one teacher

with another. It's too confusing to try

and learn different things from

different teachers at the same time

and students get really overwhelmed when

they do that. Another way to approach it

is to grab some books that are going to

be helpful for laying down a good

foundation for the absolute beginner. A

really fun starting place is a book

called You Were Born for This by Channy

Nicholas. It is a great introduction to

a chart, how it works, with lots of

really insightful interpretations for

planets in different signs and houses.

It's not necessarily going to be

teaching you all the things about

reading a chart, but it teaches you the

depths of your own chart, which is a

great starting place. After that,

there's lots of places you could go, and

I do have some books that I recommend.

I'm going to link in a blog post in the

show notes below. Two books that I'm

loving and recommending to the serious

student of astrology these days is

ancient astrology volumes one and two by

Dimmitra George who is one of my

teachers. Now these books are incredibly

comprehensive. They will have more than

the average beginner will need, but

they're also books that have great

information for the beginner, the

serious beginner student, and they will

keep you going for years because of the

depth of information in them. So, I

think that's a couple of recommendations

I want to suggest. So, you can always

start with a book or a couple of books.

Uh when you're ready, find a teacher who

offers classes and training in a style

of astrology that you're interested in

and spend one or two or three or four

years with that teacher absorbing all

the wisdom they have to offer and then

you have the foundation to kind of go

anywhere you want with your astrology.

So if you're interested in learning from

me, I do have a six week practical

beginner astrology training program.

We'll add the link in the show notes

below. I do a once a year intake into my

full 18-month training program that is

happening in September. And so if that's

of interest to you, I'll pop the full

training program uh details in the show

notes uh below as well. Thank you so

much for your question, Anmarie, and I

wish you all the best on your journey

with learning astrology. It is

incredibly rewarding. I started studying

astrology as a child. Very weird, uh,

very different from the family I grew up

in and I have been very lucky and

blessed to have been able to dedicate my

career to this wonderful craft. I know

that studying astrology is incredibly

rewarding. It is very affirming. It also

creates more compassion and it can be a

potential career path in the future if

that's what you're interested in. But

even if we don't go to that level,

learning astrology helps us understand

ourselves and our loved ones better. And

who doesn't want to have a better

understanding of the people around us?

So, thank you to everyone who uh shared

their questions today. Hopefully, uh me

answering these questions has given you

some insights into the different ways

that I think about astrology and charts

and timing and some of the different

things that we can be doing even at that

week to week, month-to-month level. I

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